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Indiana University Narrator
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Bloomberg Host
Bloomberg Audio Studios Podcasts, Radio News Accenture and Anthropic inking a multi year partnership deal to drive enterprise AI adoption. The two, they're going to form the Accenture Anthropic Business Group with the goal of training around 30,000 professionals in leveraging AI as a catalyst for reinvention. Pleased to say. Joining us right now is the CEO of Accenture, Julia, Julie Sweet, and the CEO of Anthropic, Dario Amade. Great to have both of you here. And Julie, I'll start with you mainly because when I saw this I thought, wow, this is neat. Then I also thought about the fact that just last week you announced a further expansion of your partnership with OpenAI. Talk a little bit about how these two coexist under the Accenture umbrella.
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Julie Sweet
Sure. So all of our partnerships start with client demand. So the partnerships are responding to client demand. And we have a long history. Our clients expect us to be the number one partner for every technology company that matters. And Anthropic, this partnership that we've announced today is very important to our clients. And so that's the role we play is to make sure that we can take the world's best technology and mix it up with industry knowledge, with process, and how to actually use it in the enterprise to get to an outcome. And as you know, today it's all about when is AI showing up in the pnl. We call that the PNL pivot. And this partnership will help our clients make that pivot.
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Bloomberg Host
Well, I am curious then, Dario, if you can kind of talk about specifically the Anthropic tools, the idea here of standardizing how some of these AI agents actually connect to the various tentacles, if you will, the various applications out there.
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Dario Amodei
All. Yes. So we are, you know, I think we're going to start on the coding side. Some of the technologies that have been adopted quickly have been things like Claude Code, the tool tool we produce to help with development. And we've seen very large productivity gains with that. But we want to go beyond that to more general use of our tool. Claude. And we want to drive usage of the tool across areas like health care, life sciences, financial services, public sector, you know, things that Anthropic has worked with for a long time, you know, more broadly would say that enterprises have been experimenting with AI for quite a while. But you know, I think really, you know, as Julie said with it, with the pnl, the important thing is really to deploy these at scale and, you know, to actually drive ROI for them. And so that's what we're trying to do. That's why we have this whole business center. That's why we're training 30,000 people to use Claude. And we're going to work with CIOs of companies to track how, how, how they're using CLAUDE through Accenture, how they're deploying the tools, what returns they get, what returns they're getting from the tools. So we're going to work with Accenture to manage the whole lifecycle. We think these tools are, are, are revolutionary. We've seen that from their use inside anthropic and many enterprises already. But the thing we're most excited for is, is to make sure that, you know, we can, we can really spread these across the enterprise world. And, you know, that's, that's where Accenture comes in and can really drive these things at a scale that hasn't been done before.
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Bloomberg Interviewer
Yeah, it's interesting, Dario. I mean, you think about AI, some of these LLMs, they're very popular with consumers, individuals. They've been, well, socialized. But when it comes to enterprises, when it comes to that business customer. You touched on maybe some of the skepticisms that CIOs have in really adopting AI. As you look into 2026, this deal with Accenture, how much further does it put you when it comes to sort of unlocking the enterprise world? And what's the goal when it comes to 2026?
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Dario Amodei
Yes. So, you know, we've already seen substantial enterprise adoption this year. Anthropics revenue went from 1 billion annualized rate at the beginning of the year to 10 billion annualized rate at the end of the year. So we've already seen a lot of adoption. And, you know, 80, 80% of that revenue is enterprise. And within that, particularly with things like coding, but in other areas, we're starting to see very strong roi. But the scale of this is so large, right? The scale of what needs to be done. Right. There's hundreds of billions, may, trillions of, of, you know, kind of enterprise, enterprise productivity out there, value to be created. And so that, while, while it has been growing quickly and we've been overcoming that skepticism, I think what needs to be done has, you know, is enormous in scale compared to what, to what has been done. What has been done already. And that's why partnerships with Accenture are so important. That, you know, we really need to get to a scale, that it's, it's, you know, a young company needs to, needs to partner with someone who really understands the enterprise world.
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Bloomberg Interviewer
And Julie, you made the point that, you know, one of the big questions here is when we're going to see AI show up in the pnl. There's also the big question of when you see I really show up in the job market. And I'm curious, you know, whether you're seeing AI slow down hiring for entry level jobs. Over at Accenture, for example.
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Julie Sweet
We are really focused on creating sustainable entry level jobs with AI. And so our pivot in the talent side side is how do we now take our entry level.
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People, we call them reinventors coming in and give them the skills so they can operate at a higher level. So for example, if you can now do things that maybe it would have taken you two years, then you're losing two years of experience at clients. So how do we now. We're now introducing communication training to help close that gap. And so we believe it's way too early to call the end of entry level jobs versus the responsibility that we have as a company and as companies across the globe to change the way that we train and that we think about jobs so that we have sustainable entry level jobs.
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Bloomberg Host
I am curious though, Julie, as you sort of prep your own folks internally for not only using the tools yourselves, but obviously the idea that these tools ultimately will then somehow be used by clients. What has been the uptake internally? How much retraining have you had to do for your own folks?
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Julie Sweet
Our training has been massive. It starts with back in 2019, we introduced classical AI training. So when Chatbot came on that we were already had 500,000 people trained in the fundamentals of AI in addition to the specialists. We just kicked off our entire 750,000 or so reinventors agentic AI training. And in fact, this partnership is all about tapping into the talent advantage that Accenture brings because you need great technology expertise. You also need the industry expertise. Like in banking. You need to know your, be able to know your customer. And so we're training all of our people, those who understand industry and function. And that's a big talent advantage.
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Bloomberg Host
So Dario, but this goes back to the idea kind of of what you're contributing and the idea that a lot of people have been looking for more of a standardized model to be able to work off of and obviously anthropic, at least the way as you guys promote yourselves, the idea of Open source. The idea of maybe a of lot. Little bit more transparency. There was a report today in the Information that you, along with a couple of others, including Google and Open Air for that matter, are going to be part of this AI foundation that will seek to create a more standardized system for some of this. Can you talk a little bit about that?
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Dario Amodei
Yes. So, so this is. We're donating M. Cp, which is called the Model Context Protocol, along with some other things to. To. To a foundation. And what MCP is, it's a tool that kind of governs and standardizes how AI models intersect with data. If you think about it, you can think of an AI model as kind of. As kind of the brain, right? You have a smart brain that knows a lot of things. And when I bring that brain into an enterprise context, there's all this kind of knowledge and tacit knowledge that is present in the enterprise. And so bringing them together is always a challenge. You know, the way I often like to say it is, you know, suppose I took some very smart person off the street and, you know, plop them into the middle of my enterprise, gave them an executive role, and say, okay, congratulations. You know, you're in. You're in charge. You get to make all the decisions. Now, as smart as that person is, they wouldn't, at least not right away. Make, make, make, make, make immediately good, immediately good decisions. So there's this integration layer that's missing. And, you know, I think these tools are designed to facilitate that integration layer and make it easier. And so we're excited to provide these things to the world and, you know, kind of. Kind of make it easier to facilitate access to the technology across the world.
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Bloomberg Interviewer
And Dario, before we let the two of you go, I have to ask, while we have you there, has been reporting that you've been in early talks for an IPO as early as 2026. Can you confirm that?
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Dario Amodei
Currently we are. We are just focused on growing our business and, you know, growing. Growing. Growing enterprise. Growing enterprise revenue, as you can see in this partnership.
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Bloomberg Host
All right, well, obviously, it's a great partnership. I've known Julie for some time, and certainly you picked a good partner there. Dario Amadeus, the CEO of Anthropic. Julia, great to see you once again. Julie Sweet, the CEO over at Accenture.
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Indiana University Narrator
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Dario Amodei
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