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News the U.S. consumer remains resilient. Data from Mastercard showing retail sales rose 4.1% on Black Friday. That surpasses last year's 3.4% growth. So better than last year and better growth as well. For boots on the ground, look at the consumer. We welcome Mark Rosen, Catalyst Brands CEO. Catalyst is the parent company of retailers like JCPenney, Brooks Brothers, Eddie Bauer, Aeropostale Style, Lucky Brand, Nautica. You know all the names. Mark, welcome to the program. Thanks for joining us. Here in studio. How is, how was Black Friday and how, how is Cyber Monday shaping up?
Mark Rosen (1:10)
Yeah. Thank you for having me. So Black Friday was as it always is. I think it just a super exciting day for all of us in the retail business. I was out in stores that morning and we had lines around the store at our JCPenney stores that morning of customers coming in for our 5am deals. They were waiting to get a snow globe, which is one of our histor historic nostalgic giveaways, but also a coupon book. I think consumers were really focused on value and deals this holiday. I will say the other big thing that we noted on on Black Friday was Gen Z was fully in on Black Friday this year and it was really exciting to see Gen Z shoppers out in the malls. Our Aeropostale brand did really, really well with strong sales and, you know, a really strong presence of Gen Z coming out.
Interviewer (1:56)
It does feel like there's like a 90s comeback somehow. I don't know when Aeropostale really hit the but there's definitely a second wave for these kind of brands and you own a lot of them. How, how is that shaping up and what's driving it?
Mark Rosen (2:13)
It's, you know, across the portfolio. Right. I think the, the thing that brings our brands together is, you know, we have historic brands that the consumer knows and loves. And the thing that brings them together is it's also incredible fashion at a really affordable price, I think. So if you look at Aeropustale for the teen custom, the trends, Y2K is actually the trend right now. Right. It's the wide leg, the baggy, the low rise denim, and that's doing really well. And so we're seeing consumers really come in for that Brooks Brothers, which I know you're a shock near and dear to my heart. Exactly right. So Brooks Brothers also had a great Black Friday, and we're moving into Cyber Monday. But there it was all about sweaters. So merino wool sweaters, cashmere sweaters, and the quarter zip is actually the. We have a quilted quarter zip that was our number one selling item on Black Friday. As consumers are coming in for that.
