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Interviewer
Bloomberg Audio Studios Podcasts Radio News let's get to the CEO of Core. We've now Michael and Trader joins us. You've just had $21 billion deal announced a matter yesterday you have anthropic today Michael, what does this mean for your investors in terms of the clarity of revenue growth coming forward?
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Michael Trader
Yeah, first of all, good afternoon. Thank you for having me. But it has been a, you know, unique couple of weeks for us here because not only have we really made tremendous progress with with with the likes of Metta and Anthropic, but we've also had tremendous overwhelming success in the capital markets as we continue to, to build the funding mechanisms to be able to, to ensure that we are able to execute on our, our roadmap for growth.
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Interviewer
Let's talk about those funding mechanisms because you're looking at unique ways to be able to get access to credit lines by using basically the power of your customer. The fact that matter is the one that's coming to you for the compute and the strength there. You're also tapping though. Well convertible notes was what was issued yesterday as well as bonds with seeking billions of that how much more debt are you going to have to take on to fuel the growth.
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Michael Trader
So you know we're, we've been very creative about how we kind of look at the capital markets making sure that we can execute on our plan for, for the in the most cost effective way. And so you know we, we issued eight and a half billion dollars worth of bonds at a minus of a minus paper because of the quality of our counterparties and you know that was a tremendous reduction in our weighted average cost of capital. And then we came back yesterday we did the largest dual offering ever and that was both the, the, the, the convertible note that we issued as well as a tranche of high yield you know really positioning us well for the capital requirements and it's just the over subscription to to these, to these tools that we're bringing into market to the paper that we're bringing to market really provides tremendous transparency to us to our Investors to our clients. We are going to be given to capital as we continue to execute on this strategy. And you know, people are really confident. The cost of capital keeps coming down in our ability to kind of drive the compute that is so dear to all of these model creators and product people who are producing product for, for artificial intelligence. You know, it's just been, you know, an extraordinary week both on the, on the capital raise side as well as the, the client contract side.
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Interviewer
As the cost of capital comes down, it gets more. How much more money do you need to get from the debt markets, Michael?
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Michael Trader
Yeah, so, so look, you know, our, our strategy continues to be success driven, right? And so we go out and we execute a contract like the one we just did with matter. And now with that contract in hand, we will go into the capital markets and we will raise debt that will be at a very low cost of capital to be able to build the infrastructure to deliver on that contract. Each of our contracts are profitable and drive wonderful return. And at the parent company, we're just looking to continue to scale into this, you know, unique opportunity to kind of build, you know, an enormous company that is instrumental in delivering infrastructure to the world.
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Interviewer
How much does Anthropic need?
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Michael Trader
So we're not at liberty to speak to the size of that contract. It is a multibillion dollar contract. But really much more importantly than that, from our perspective, this is the first contract that we've executed with them. It's the first time that they view somebody out of one of their core investors. And they came to us because of the quality of the infrastructure and the software solutions that we provide. And so, you know, we just think it's an incredible vote of confidence from one of the most important brands in the world. And we think that it's going to be a launch pad for additional business between us and them. Just as every other client that we've, we've brought on really all the major clients, they come on, they do a contract with us and it's a land and extant expand strategy for both, both parties. You know, we really build from that into a very broad based relationship where we become an integral part of their infrastructure strategy.
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Interviewer
Let's talk about Mythos. Does the slow unveil of the model to unique partners, does that signal an issue with compute?
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Michael Trader
So look, you know, the strategy that, that, that Anthropic is using to, you know, as they kind of bring their products to market is really, you know, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's their strategy you know, our job in this ecosystem is to provide as much infrastructure at the highest quality that, that we can. Right? And they came to us, they engaged us because they have demand for compute because of the wonderful products that they are bringing to market. And that's, you know, being echoed across the different labs, you know, universally. And, you know, our role in this is really to go ahead and to deliver the infrastructure that these companies are going to need and currently need to be able to successfully deliver their product to market. That's what our role is. We do.
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Interviewer
Michael, I'm fascinated by the global perspective you have here because the geopolitical environment that we live in at the moment means the energy prices are driving up, particularly over in Europe and the UK Open Air. We have reporting that they're pulling back on their Stargate project in the UK because energy is getting too expensive. And yet they're going out to their investors and saying, look, we're ahead of the game, we're ahead of anthropic because of our compute that we have. What are you seeing in terms of people trying to rearrange where their computers access from?
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Michael Trader
Yeah, look, you know, the way I kind of view it, my background really is within the commodity space is that people are going to be very thoughtful about managing the cost of delivering infrastructure. And some of that is going to come from the energy side. It's going to be, hey, where can we get electrons that are effectively priced so that we can continue to drive our company? But it's also going to come from places like Corweeth, where, where our software and the yield on the compute that we build is just higher than other alternatives because of the quality of the software environment that we built. And so you're seeing both sides of that coin really being driven. And you're seeing the success of our infrastructure and the adoption of our infrastructure because of the part that we can impact. And so we, we, we look at the different energy markets, we place our infrastructure in lots of different places in order to mitigate localized risks such as what's happening in Europe at the moment. But, but we really do think that the part that we can directly control is the quality of the infrastructure we deliver.
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Interviewer
Would you pull back from the uk, Michael?
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Michael Trader
No, no, we have no intention of pulling back from the uk. We are well positioned there. We have, you know, a great relationship with, with the energy companies, with the, the data centers and, you know, with the, with the broader economy over there. And we absolutely will continue to, to, to build footprint in those jurisdictions, Michael,
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Interviewer
and Trader I always wish we had more time with you. Thank you. It's been a busy week. You need some rest. We appreciate it. We've seen you.
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