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Eric Trump Pledges "Heart and Soul" in Bitcoin Venture

Date: November 13, 2025
Host: Bloomberg (Carol and team)
Guest: Eric Trump – Co-founder and Chief Strategy Officer, American Bitcoin; Executive Vice President, Trump Organization

Episode Overview

This episode features an in-depth interview with Eric Trump about his new venture, American Bitcoin, one of the fastest-growing publicly traded bitcoin mining and treasury companies in the U.S. The conversation ranges from the company’s unique approach to mining and accumulating bitcoin, its energy sourcing strategies, and the political dynamics affecting the crypto and energy sectors, to broader reflections on digital assets’ role in the global economy. Eric stands firm on his commitment to bitcoin mining, addresses criticisms about political connections and energy policy, and explains his long-term optimism about cryptocurrency as both an investment and a safeguard against economic and governmental instability.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Why Invest in American Bitcoin Instead of Bitcoin or an ETF?

• Eric explains that American Bitcoin's value proposition is "increasing bitcoin per share" rather than just holding bitcoin on a 1:1 basis. By mining at about 50% of the spot price, American Bitcoin increases shareholder value beyond simple bitcoin exposure.
  • Quote:

    "Our entire ethos is increasing bitcoin per share. Right now, every day we’re mining bitcoin at roughly 50% of spot prices ... That’s the ultimate metric that we chase every single day." (Eric Trump, 01:30)

• The company boasts rapid growth, accumulating over 4,000 BTC and reaching the 25th largest public BTC treasury status in under three months on the Nasdaq.
  • Quote:

    "We’ve been listed for less than three months and growing by lightning speed." (Eric Trump, 03:11)

2. Energy Sources and U.S. Power Policy

• Eric highlights the use of cheap, renewable energy (notably a defunct wind farm) but foresees a broader energy revolution including traditional energy sources, nuclear (SMRs), and even fusion.
  • Quote:

    "We’re in the heyday of power and power exploration ... We need energy generation and my father is hell bent of getting that through every single form." (Eric Trump, 04:15–05:11)

• Carol points out rising electricity costs and the complex factors driving them, including AI-driven demand and regional variance. She questions if political rhetoric matches on-the-ground economics.
  • Quote:

    "Electricity costs depend far on where you’re located and a lot of it has to do with AI buildout and the cost of those data centers..." (Carol, 04:32)

3. Political Disputes Over Energy Policy (05:11–07:22)

• Eric criticizes the previous administration’s energy actions, blaming Biden for shutting down pipelines, blocking permits, and raising energy dependency. He passionately connects national economic health to energy independence.
  • Quote:

    "There was a war on energy in this country the likes of which you’ve never seen before ... The lower your energy costs are, the higher your GDP is." (Eric Trump, 05:11)

4. Pivoting to AI or Doubling Down on Bitcoin Mining? (07:22–10:01)

• As rivals like Bit Farms shift to AI/data infrastructure, Eric pledges unwavering commitment to bitcoin mining.
  • Quote:

    "The exact opposite. We’re only going to ramp up. We’re going to ramp up every single day." (Eric Trump, 08:06)

• He asserts bitcoin’s long-term outperformance, noting high returns over multiple years compared to other asset classes, but acknowledges and embraces volatility as part of the asset’s appeal.
  • Quote:

    "Volatility is our friend. Volatility is something that should be harnessed." (Eric Trump, 09:04)

5. Personal Commitment and Asset Philosophy (10:01–13:57)

• Eric owns 7.5% of American Bitcoin and hasn’t sold a share. He sees cryptocurrency as "digital gold," especially vital in politically or economically unstable countries.
  • Quote:

    "Everybody believes in cryptocurrency. Everybody’s tremendously worried about their respective governments ... Bitcoin is digital gold." (Eric Trump, 10:27)

• Asked to choose between real estate and bitcoin, Eric chooses both but admits bitcoin is a better hedge outside the U.S. due to government risks.
  • Quote:

    "I clearly love tangible assets and I believe in them. I think bitcoin is the greatest hedge toward those tangible assets there is." (Eric Trump, 12:22)

6. Crypto’s Appeal Amid ‘Cancel Culture’ and Global Instability (12:22–13:57)

• Eric frames bitcoin as immune to the “canceling” he says his family faced, noting blockchain’s inability to be revoked or seized by authorities, unlike physical assets.
  • Quote:

    "Digital assets ... can’t cancel them. You can’t take them away. And that’s a beautiful thing." (Eric Trump, 12:22)

7. Political Connections & Business Advantage (14:13–16:44)

• Carol asks if proximity to the Trump White House gives American Bitcoin an unfair advantage; Eric forcefully rejects the notion, citing operational factors as their real edge.
  • Quote:

    "Our advantage with American Bitcoin is we can mine Bitcoin at $0.50 on the dollar ... Go name another commodity you can do that with." (Eric Trump, 14:51) "I have absolutely nothing to do with the federal government ... I stay in my own damn lane." (Eric Trump, 16:09)

8. More Energy Policy Debate & Final Thoughts (16:44–18:22)

• Eric reiterates criticism of the Biden administration’s energy strategy and touts the Trump focus on energy independence and infrastructure.
  • Quote:

    "Give me one quantifiable metric where Joe Biden was a better energy president than Donald Trump. You can’t." (Eric Trump, 17:02) "It was the biggest war on oil and gas ... for the purpose of creating EV cars that consumers did not want to buy." (Eric Trump, 18:38)

9. Vision for American Bitcoin’s Future (19:07–20:03)

• Eric expresses pride in the company’s achievements and ambitions to become a leading bitcoin enterprise, emphasizing growth, patriotism, and industry leadership.
  • Quote:

    "We’re doing it with tremendous heart and soul ... We need to lead the world in the digital financial revolution. Bitcoin is clearly leading that charge." (Eric Trump, 19:07)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• "Our entire ethos is increasing bitcoin per share ... That's the ultimate metric that we chase every single day." (Eric Trump, 01:30)
• "We’re in the heyday of power and power exploration in this country." (Eric Trump, 04:15)
• "We have to win the war on cryptocurrency. We have to win the war on AI ... for our national security." (Eric Trump, 05:11)
• "Volatility is our friend. Volatility is something that should be harnessed." (Eric Trump, 09:04)
• "You can’t take [digital assets] away. And that’s a beautiful thing." (Eric Trump, 12:22)
• "I have absolutely nothing to do with the federal government ... I stay in my own damn lane." (Eric Trump, 16:09)
• "We’re doing it with tremendous heart and soul ... We need to lead the world in the digital financial revolution." (Eric Trump, 19:07)

Key Timestamps

• 01:18 – Introduction of Eric Trump, American Bitcoin’s public debut recap
• 01:30–03:11 – Why invest in American Bitcoin? Mining costs, strategy, growth
• 03:26–04:15 – Discussion of renewable and future energy
• 05:11–07:22 – Political fireworks: energy policy, Biden vs. Trump, U.S. energy independence
• 08:06–09:04 – Commitment to bitcoin mining over AI/data pivot, bitcoin as an outperforming asset
• 10:27–12:22 – Eric’s personal holding and asset philosophy: crypto as hedge, digital gold
• 14:13–16:44 – American Bitcoin’s business advantage and political perceptions
• 19:07–20:03 – The heart and soul vision for American Bitcoin

Overall Tone & Language

The conversation is lively, often combative—Eric Trump is assertive, mixing business rationale with passionate opinions on energy policy and government. Carol and the Bloomberg team remain probing and data-driven, persistently challenging Eric's assertions with facts and industry analysis.

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