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She's a film executive, she's a producer, she's the president of Orion Pictures. She helped bring us films including American Fiction. Alana Mayo stops by. We're going to be speaking to her in just a minute.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
Yeah, Ryan Pictures, man, they've been around for a while. So interesting.
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Different now though.
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Yes.
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Than it was in the 1970s, which is fascinating.
Alana Mayo
Right?
Bloomberg Host (Male)
You like to see how these things change. Hey, also billionaire real estate developer and maybe LA mayoral candidate, or maybe he wants to be governor of the state of California. Rick Caruso of Caruso is going to be back with us. We're going to ask him, we're going to push him. Last time we talked with him he was like, maybe I'm going to have a decision or announcement. So maybe he wants to do it live with us on air.
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Maybe just saying, maybe. We're ready. Let's do it also. Yes, chef.
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Yes, chef.
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Yes, chef.
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Yes, Chef.
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We got the culinary producer of the Bear stopping by and also the youngest female self made billionaire in the world joins us. Lucy Guo, co founder.
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I think my husband at home wants us to say yes Chef when he's cooking and we're like, not happening, honey. Not happening, not happening. Hey, also the youngest female self made billionaire in the world is with us. We've got Lucy Guo, co founder of Scale AI and founder of Passes. She's going to be along as well. So she's a ones to watch, isn't she?
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Yeah, she's here with us. She's right here.
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She's right here.
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Yeah, she's coming by like in like 45 minutes. It's going to be great. I want to get to our next guest though, because we are in the heart of Hollywood. Live at Bloomberg Screen Time in L. A. We're speaking to the folks who are defining the next phase of pop culture includes film and streaming. Alana Mayo Mayo is with us. She thinks a lot about these things. Streaming and traditional releases probably simultaneously these days, which is like a little crazy of the world that we live in. Orion Pictures goes back to the late 1970s. Think Amadeus, silence of the Lambs and more. It's different now though. Alana joins us here at Screen Time. These Days. Orion focuses primarily on films from underrepresented filmmakers. Releases under her tenure include American Fiction Academy Award nominated Nickel Boys and many more. And a lot coming on the horizon too. Welcome. How are you?
Alana Mayo
Thank you. I'm very well. I'm happy to be here.
Bloomberg Host (Female)
You just wrapped up this conversation with Mark Duplass. We spoke to him a little earlier. Also, Catherine Oliver as well, from Bloomberg. She was the former film commissioner of New York City. The focus was on reinvigorating the creative community. How do you do it?
Alana Mayo
Just that small question.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
I mean, I just want.
Bloomberg Host (Female)
This is like the underlying theme of the entire how do we improve?
Bloomberg Host (Male)
Why are we here?
Alana Mayo
Well, I think we're here because we have so much, much change and so much dynamism. And the reality is that no one really knows what the next wave of media content, Hollywood is going to look like. So we're at this incredible inflection point and having to innovate in real time and build new systems while the previous systems are being dismantled, are evolving, are changing. So while I wish I had a quick answer to your question of how do we do it, what we ended up talking about mostly is how do we just create enough sustainability for artists so that everyone can sustain, sustain this moment in time. And so whatever is on the other side of this, whatever that looks like, that the creative voices that build our industry can still survive.
Bloomberg Host (Female)
Does it get worse before it gets better?
Alana Mayo
I mean, if you look at it with a long lens, you know, define worse, right? If you look at a lot with a long lens, it's always. This business has always been challenged. This business has always gone through dips, it's always gone through ebbs. And how long this moment of uncertainty lasts is probably longer than any of us would love. And if that's how you define worse than. Yes. But I think, you know, I think it's just going to always be changing. I don't know if it's going to get worse or better. I think we're going to continue to change and evolve.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
You know, I always think about supply and demand cycles. I've got a degree in economics and I think about the world in that way. And I think there was a period where we thought, man, if you're a content creator, you are good as gold because there's so many, you know, different platforms that need your services, they need your content. And then all of a sudden I think there's a lot of content and maybe, I don't know, there was too much content and the oversupply. So where Is the rebalancing or how do we get back to a different level?
Alana Mayo
I think we're seeing the rebalancing now. I will say I personally am a little bit worried about the level of consolidation that we have because I do think that it is hard to keep things weighed in the favor of the creators and of the artists, which is really the community that we need to continue any sort of artistic endeavor in media. But, you know, I think Mark said something. He may have already said this to you guys earlier, but that I think is a really important bit of context, which is the past 10 years of the streaming arms race was a boon. Like, that was a spike. That was an. That was an abnormal state of our industry. Right. So this is a little bit corrective. Right. It's not completely just the, you know, earth has fallen out underneath us. This is a little bit of a correction of something that was a real kind of an aberration in of itself.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
So a good thing. A little bit, maybe, but not good if you're a content creator.
Alana Mayo
Yeah, I was going to say, I think. I think the. The good thing is that there are more ways to monetize content. Right. And we talked about everything from direct to consumer models to YouTube. There are a lot of different platforms in addition to Hollywood where you can monetize content. How you do that. Right. Is the thing that a lot of.
Bloomberg Host (Female)
Us don't yet know is, you know.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
When he pauses, this could be serious.
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It's political, too.
Alana Mayo
Yeah.
Bloomberg Host (Female)
The president has weighed in recently and he said the way to fix this is to put tariffs on films that are made outside the US you're shaking your head.
Alana Mayo
I don't think that's the way to face this. Why not?
Bloomberg Host (Female)
Why should we be filming scenes about Brooklyn in Vancouver?
Alana Mayo
I think that we. Listen, I definitely am personally invested in us keeping production inside of the communities that, you know, where the people that make them live. Right. Because it's not just about. Are we maintaining the integrity of the film itself by location space shooting? This city is where the majority of people that make stuff live. And we've got to keep this city healthy. And the economy and the infrastructure of that has to be supported by films being made here. And we've got to figure that out. At the same time, if we're going to make the path of supporting these artists is to be able to make more, to increase the amount of stuff that is being made. We've got to be nimble. And if that means that sometimes shooting things outside of the states or shooting Things outside of LA and New York is the way to do that. You know, a lot of the films that we've been able to make that are really innovative and original and risky have to find ways to cost less. And some of the ways that we find to make them cost less is to shoot them elsewhere. And then you have American Fiction, which is a Boston set story that shot in Massachusetts. So, you know, we can figure it out different ways, but we've got to have some flexibility.
Bloomberg Host (Female)
I was trying forever to figure out what college that was. What was it? I went to college in New England.
Alana Mayo
They didn't. I don't believe they shot. I would. I would be lying to you if I told you I knew exactly where that location was. But it may not have been a college at all. It may have been a conference room. I'm sorry to burst your bubble.
Bloomberg Host (Female)
Oh, my God. Wait, so you're telling me. No, I'm just kidding.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
Listen, I remember Sopranos was, like, taped in my neighborhood. And it's not in New York City, it's just outside New York City.
Bloomberg Host (Female)
That's because you live in New Jersey.
Alana Mayo
Yeah, I know, but it was.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
I think at the moment it was supposed to be New York City.
Bloomberg Host (Female)
Perfect.
Alana Mayo
So funny.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
What are you saying?
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What are you saying?
Bloomberg Host (Male)
We talk with Alana Mayo. She is president of Orion Pictures. You know, but when you talk about, right, like, you want LA and the film scene and the, like, you want it to be alive and healthy. But I also do think about, you know, part of your market is a global market.
Alana Mayo
Yeah, exactly.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
So being able to film wherever in the world, like, that's part of it, right?
Alana Mayo
100%. We're, you know, we're a global community.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
Without a penalty, whether it's a tariff or whatever.
Alana Mayo
100%. And also, what about the movies that we produce out of Hollywood that are not set in the U.S. you know, we also produce movies that are set all over the world. You know, Mission Impossible doesn't just all take place here. Right. So I think we have to be a global industry. We have to be, you know, be a global economy with artisans that are working all over the world. But the argument that I understand is that shouldn't be to the expense of the film industries locally. I really. I feel very strongly about that.
Bloomberg Host (Female)
You have a really cool background. You have worked 20th Century Fox, Paramount Pictures. You did a stint at Vimeo.
Alana Mayo
I did, yeah. Oh, my God.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
That's a blast from the beginning.
Bloomberg Host (Female)
It's amazing.
Alana Mayo
Still around.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
I know, but I haven't heard it.
Bloomberg Host (Female)
In A while outlier society.
Alana Mayo
Sorry. Vimeo.
Bloomberg Host (Female)
You came of age in an industry while it was like undergoing this massive shift to streaming, which you alluded to. When you began your career, did you ever think that you'd be making movies at a company that was owned by Amazon?
Alana Mayo
No, I couldn't. I shouldn't say this, but I remember when Amazon first started making television shows, I was at Fox and I laughed. I was like, this is ridiculous. People never laughed.
Bloomberg Host (Female)
Everyone was like.
Alana Mayo
And then they started making incredible TV shows. And then, you know, to track from that moment to now working at a film studio that is under the Amazon, I couldn't have predicted any of this. I will say though, when you talk about all of those places that I worked, part of the reason why I got my dream job, the best job that I thought you could ever have in film. I was a movie studio executive at Paramount. I was on the Paramount lot and after being there for five or six years, I realized that the world around me had changed. And I went to Vimeo very intentionally because I thought there's all of this cool stuff that is happening in this digital space and I need to understand it. And then I said, I got to work with close to the talent and I've got to produce and be able to be scrappy and produce for different platforms and different mediums. I went to go work with Michael B. Jordan. And so it's been ever changing for the entirety of the time that I've had the blessing of having a career in this industry, which is why I think it's not falling, you know, it's not all falling apart.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
What's it like? I mean, Amazon, this mass company, and there are a lot of folks are like, yeah, that's where I buy all my stuff. But we know AWS is massive and we talked about it earlier too here in terms of what they are doing.
Bloomberg Host (Female)
Media, sports, entertainment, doctor works for Amazon.
Alana Mayo
And your pharmacist like hands in so.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
Much of our world and increasingly more so. What's it like though running a studio within the Amazon world?
Alana Mayo
It's interesting. You know, the great benefit of it is in this time of instability, Amazon has such scale that it feels as if you can one still be innovative, you can still take risks and you can ride these waves of change within this massive company that can withstand some of the headwinds that we're experiencing. So I think it's actually a place where innovation thrives. Which sounds like a talking point, but I swear I just made that up.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
Let me see.
Alana Mayo
I'm like my cue cards, let me pull them out. But it is also a big culture clash. So it's navigating those two things at once.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
Well, and I also. Can I just. Just to follow, like AI, Right. Amazon, they're so interchangeable. And then we're looking at. Anybody who creates content is a little terrified of AI they are.
Alana Mayo
Yeah, yeah. Where is. Those are difficult conversations that we're navigating every single day in real time. And I think the difference from last year, where AI never came up, not once in a conversation about any movie that I was working on to this year, where it is ever present, and what tools are we using? What tools are we not using? And also the fear. I can only imagine next year, you know, this stuff is happening exponentially.
Bloomberg Host (Female)
Is the fear warranted?
Alana Mayo
I think yes and no. Right. I think anytime that you have a technology that is going to cause a reduction in jobs, of course it's worrisome for people. It's going to be a real human quality. I can't. You know, I don't know. I think for me, who works with a lot of independent filmmakers and people that are making really highly original stuff, but at a lower cost, I think the. The tools have honestly been mostly helpful because they are creating, you know, reductions in cost to our budget. Beyond that, I don't know.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
Like, how do. I was thinking. I think about this a lot, like, because we're starting to increasingly play around with things like Chachi, but still, like, can't.
Bloomberg Host (Female)
I can't rely on it at all.
Alana Mayo
Sure.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
No, like, it's.
Bloomberg Host (Female)
It's not.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
No, no. We're careful. We are.
Bloomberg Host (Female)
It's like I spend more time trying to.
Alana Mayo
She's like, I do everything trying to make it good. Right.
Bloomberg Host (Female)
It's like I spend.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
I don't.
Bloomberg Host (Female)
What I get back. I don't get the love that I need.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
We check sources, but I was thinking about in the entertainment world to go back to like that Star wars movie, the first one. They were playing around with stuff. But I think about CGI and I think about animation.
Bloomberg Host (Female)
Wait, the first one or the fourth?
Bloomberg Host (Male)
Yeah, the first.
Bloomberg Host (Female)
The first one. Like in the 1970s. First one. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
But that was considered high. But, you know, technology's always had a role increasingly, you know, whether it's Mission Impossible and the things that Cruise is doing and the stuff happening around, like, pick. Pick whatever it is. Game of Thrones, like, everything. So technology has a role. So are we being silly to be so fearful of AI or we just have to be smart or is it something very, very different from the things that we've had in the digital universe?
Alana Mayo
I don't think that it's silly to be cautious about technological revolutions, evolutions because they usually come with a flip side to the coin that can have some sort of damaging impact. But what I don't think is going to happen is I don't think that we as studios are going to start generating all of our scripts from some LLM and producing those scripts so that we don't have to pay writers. I said that to a really good.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
Not going to be all over the AI actress.
Alana Mayo
I'm sure Tilly will be in some things. She will not be in Orion film.
Bloomberg Host (Female)
I have seen stuff that is so bad where I'm like, this was definitely from AI but of course I want to shift gears a little bit and talk about sort of the old school creative process and just ask the basic question, how do you find the good stuff?
Alana Mayo
Well that's, you know, that's part of the job is you. You spend 10, 15, 20 years reading 20 scripts a week. And part of my job is to sift through all of that.
Bloomberg Host (Female)
Okay, so for example, to pick something like to bet on something like American Fiction, which I think everybody knows about. How many, how many things do you pass on before you get to that?
Alana Mayo
Probably over 100. Yeah. The conversion rate of American Fiction was an incredible script. One of the best scripts I've ever read in my life. And those are unicorns and they don't come around often and they cannot be generated. Can someone now write, you know, a replicate script That's American fiction esque, perhaps through an LLM, but that's not something. That's an incredible voice and writer who wrote almost a perfect script and that those just don't come along often.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
Do we have time?
Bloomberg Host (Female)
Yeah, go.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
Your background, your dad, radio.
Alana Mayo
Yeah.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
He was a big deal.
Indiana University Narrator
Big deal.
Alana Mayo
He's a big deal. I think so, yeah.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
How did that shape you kind of growing up in that world?
Alana Mayo
The best thing about having my dad and my mom both worked in the entertainment industries is I knew that you could make a living doing this. And I didn't have parents who were scared of me chasing this. But I will say I also had a parent who lived through massive, massive technological changes in his industry. I remember showing my dad an ipod, showing him Napster and his reaction to how that was going to affect things. So I think I have a little bit more kind of tenacity around this because I saw that happen very up close in radio. And it's almost exactly the same as what we're experiencing now in filmed entertainment.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
Yeah. I mean, like, we see it in our world and we now do shows that, you know, right now you're on our streaming Service, you're on YouTube, you're on radio. We do a couple of hours that throw, you know, drink, traditional linear television into it. So it's. This melding is pretty wild. Yeah.
Bloomberg Host (Female)
Thank you.
Alana Mayo
Thank you.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
What a pleasure.
Alana Mayo
Likewise.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
Yeah, really fun.
Alana Mayo
Thank you.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
Can catch up.
Alana Mayo
I hope so, too, at some point.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
In the future as well.
Alana Mayo
Thanks, guys.
Bloomberg Host (Male)
Alana Mayor, she's president of Ryan Pictures, joining us right here at Bloomberg Screen Time.
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Podcast: Bloomberg Talks
Episode: Head of Orion Pictures Alana Mayo at Bloomberg Screentime
Date: October 9, 2025
Guest: Alana Mayo, President of Orion Pictures
Setting: Live at Bloomberg Screentime, Los Angeles
This episode features an in-depth conversation with Alana Mayo, President of Orion Pictures, recorded live at Bloomberg Screen Time in Los Angeles. The discussion centers around the future of Hollywood, industry disruption, evolving distribution channels, the impact of technology like AI, and Mayo’s own experiences navigating a rapidly transforming media landscape. The conversation is rich with insights on industry cycles, the importance of supporting creative communities, and finding “the good stuff” in filmmaking.
(02:24 – 03:30)
Sustaining Creativity in Uncertain Times
Does it Get Worse Before It Gets Better?
(03:58 – 05:28)
The End of the Streaming Arms Race
Monetizing Content in a Shifting Landscape
(05:36 – 08:19)
Tariffs vs. Creative Flexibility
Hollywood as a Global Industry
(08:19 – 10:20)
(10:20 – 10:55)
(10:55 – 13:29)
AI’s Sudden Prominence
Double-Edged Sword
Not the End of Human Creativity
(13:29 – 14:30)
(14:31 – 15:26)
| Timestamp | Segment | |--------------|--------------------------------------------------| | 02:24 - 03:30 | Sustainability for Artists, Industry in Flux | | 03:58 - 05:28 | Streaming Correction and Content Supply/Demand | | 05:36 - 08:19 | Production Location, Tariff Debate, Globalization| | 08:19 - 10:20 | Mayo's Career Trajectory and Adaptability | | 10:20 - 10:55 | Culture and Innovation at Amazon | | 10:55 - 13:29 | AI's Impact and Role in Film Production | | 13:29 - 14:30 | Sifting Scripts, “American Fiction” as Unicorn | | 14:31 - 15:26 | Family Influence and Perspective |
The conversation is candid, future-focused, and optimistic, even as it acknowledges Hollywood’s structural upheavals and existential questions around AI, globalization, and monetization. Alana Mayo presents herself as both realistic and hopeful, drawing on her adaptive career path and family background to frame today’s turbulence as part of a long pattern of reinvention in media.
For listeners interested in the future of film, sustaining creativity through disruption, and inside perspectives on Hollywood’s next act, this episode is packed with insight, experience, and sharp commentary.