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News Volvo cars third quarter profit rose as the automaker better benefited from the effects of its $1.9 billion cost saving program. That's even as Volvo car sales are down 8% this year through September. So to bring it all together, I'm pleased to welcome the automakers CEO Hokan Samuelsson to the program. Good morning, Hokan. Thank you so much for making time for us. As I say, you've done well on profit here, but sales less so less rosy. Are you concerned about demand? How's your outlook change going forward now?
Håkan Samuelsson
I'm quite confident because we know really why we were down in sell. We had very high sales of our small electric car last year and that was made in China. And then we need to move it to Europe and localize it in Belgium. And then we lost production capacity. But now we are back producing that car, so. So I'm not too nervous about the volume. I'm more concerned that we continue with our actions on profitability. Coming back to a solid cash flow. That's my number one priorities.
Interviewer/Host
Well, yeah, you hint at the fact that you're more exposed to U.S. tariffs than many European rivals. You've moved some production already. Is there going to be more of that? More moving production?
Håkan Samuelsson
Yes. I don't think you should call it moving production, but we will increase the utilization in the factory in Charleston. We need to introduce more cars, but they will be new cars, so they will not be moved from from Europe. But we need to really utilize the factory to higher degree than we do to date. And then that's really a very important part of our turnaround in America as well. We need to be industrially present. We need to be an American company in producing closer to our customers.
Interviewer/Host
But of course, you do have a Chinese owner and I believe you're waiting for feedback from the US Commerce Department on whether you'll be allowed to sell future models into the U.S. have you heard anything back yet from the Commerce Department?
Håkan Samuelsson
Now there is a constant dialogue with our legal expert and with the people in the department and there is no urgency. I think this is for model year 27 or something. But there is a process going on and I must say I'm not too nervous about that. We have been in the U.S. for 70 years and we will continue being present in the U.S. okay, not too nervous.
Interviewer/Host
But you're fully confident are you that the administration is going to grant you this exemption?
Håkan Samuelsson
I think you can never be fully confident about anything these days. But that's not what keep me awake in nights.
Interviewer/Host
So what does keep you awake at night then Hokan?
Håkan Samuelsson
No, I'm too old for that. So I sleep rather well. I'm quite confident about the future of our company and I'm really glad to be back and I think we with our result of 7.4, I think hopefully that is still a sign of of a turnaround of the company. Maybe it's too early to say, but it's still very positive combined with also positive signals on on the sales side. September was the first month where we are back into growth.
Interviewer/Host
Well, we've also been reading about how Europe's auto industry is exposed to China chip disruptions potentially from China because of the new export restrictions on China made semiconductors from Dutch chip maker nextperia. Has that affected Volvo cars at all?
Håkan Samuelsson
No, but not yet. But we are of course this will affect our suppliers. It's not supplied directly to us but we are monitoring this very closely and I think this is almost coming back in time to the pandemic where similar situation and I think we learn than to really be hands on and really together with our suppliers looking into exactly how the supply of the ships are coming in. So we are monitoring it and very difficult to say anything more today. This is a problem the whole industry is facing so we are definitely not alone with it.
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Okay, really great to talk to you this morning. Hokan Samuelson, the CEO of Volvo cars off the back of their results. Thank you so much for making time for Daybreak Europe this morning. Ah, come on. Why is this taking so long? This thing is ancient.
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Podcast: Bloomberg Talks
Host: Bloomberg
Guest: Håkan Samuelsson, CEO of Volvo Cars
Date: October 23, 2025
In this episode, Bloomberg speaks with Håkan Samuelsson, CEO of Volvo Cars, following the company’s third-quarter earnings report. The discussion centers around Volvo’s profitability despite a decline in sales, navigating production shifts in response to tariffs, ongoing U.S.–China policy developments affecting the auto industry, and how Volvo is handling global supply chain challenges, especially concerning semiconductors.
Profit Up, Sales Down:
Volvo’s quarterly profits rose as a result of a $1.9 billion cost-saving program, despite an 8% drop in sales year-to-date (00:22).
Samuelsson is confident about the reasons behind lower sales, mainly a planned production change for a small electric car shifted from China to Belgium (00:56).
"We know really why we were down in sell. We had very high sales of our small electric car last year and that was made in China… And then we lost production capacity. But now we are back producing that car."
— Håkan Samuelsson (00:56)
Focus on Profitability:
Samuelsson emphasizes that his top priority is restoring solid cash flow and maintaining profitability, rather than volume alone.
"I'm more concerned that we continue with our actions on profitability. Coming back to a solid cash flow. That's my number one priorities."
— Håkan Samuelsson (01:12)
Rather than simply moving production out of China, Volvo aims to increase utilization at its Charleston, South Carolina plant.
New car models will be produced in the U.S. to reinforce Volvo’s domestic presence (01:43).
"I don't think you should call it moving production, but we will increase the utilization in the factory in Charleston… We need to be an American company in producing closer to our customers."
— Håkan Samuelsson (01:43)
Volvo, owned by a Chinese parent company, awaits feedback from the U.S. Commerce Department regarding future model sales approvals (02:20).
Samuelsson notes the process is ongoing, with no immediate urgency.
"Now there is a constant dialogue with our legal expert and with the people in the department and there is no urgency. I think this is for model year 27 or something."
— Håkan Samuelsson (02:32)
When asked about confidence in receiving an exemption, Samuelsson is measured:
"I think you can never be fully confident about anything these days. But that's not what keep me awake in nights."
— Håkan Samuelsson (03:05)
Personal Confidence:
Samuelsson expresses optimism about Volvo’s future, highlighting positive sales momentum in September.
"I'm quite confident about the future of our company and I'm really glad to be back and I think we with our result of 7.4, I think hopefully that is still a sign of of a turnaround of the company."
— Håkan Samuelsson (03:20)
Sales Recovery:
The host asks about the impact of new export restrictions on Dutch chipmaker Nexperia and potential disruptions (03:55).
Samuelsson indicates Volvo hasn’t been affected yet but is monitoring the situation closely and working with suppliers, drawing parallels to pandemic-era disruptions.
"It's not supplied directly to us but we are monitoring this very closely… I think we learned then to really be hands on and really together with our suppliers… This is a problem the whole industry is facing, so we are definitely not alone with it."
— Håkan Samuelsson (04:14)
On worries keeping him up at night:
"No, I'm too old for that. So I sleep rather well."
— Håkan Samuelsson (03:20)
On being an American automaker in America:
"We need to be industrially present. We need to be an American company in producing closer to our customers."
— Håkan Samuelsson (01:56)
| Timestamp | Topic | |-----------|----------| | 00:22 | Introduction to Volvo’s profits and sales; start of interview | | 00:56 | Production shift from China to Belgium, impact on sales | | 01:43 | Plans for increased U.S. production in Charleston | | 02:32 | Status of U.S. Commerce Department’s model approval process | | 03:05 | Confidence in achieving U.S. exemptions | | 03:20 | Samuelsson’s personal optimism for Volvo’s future | | 03:55 | Discussion on chip supply chain issues | | 04:14 | Proactive supplier engagement and industry-wide challenges |
This episode offers an insightful look at Volvo’s operational strategies and leadership perspectives in a challenging global environment. Håkan Samuelsson’s confidence in Volvo’s adaptability stands out, along with a pragmatic approach to international policy challenges and supply chain risks. The episode provides candid commentary on the realities of running a global automaker amid shifting production, regulatory uncertainty, and technological disruption.