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getting back to the AI hard disk drive story. I think it's great to have you back on the show. You know, like investors still believe in that story. I hard disk drive, your stock is under some pressure. Just reflect on like the moment that you tried to outline in this, in this earnings print.
Irving (Hard Drive Industry Executive)
Yeah, well, first of all, thank you very much for having me back. If you look at the results that we delivered in Q4 fiscal 26, they were very strong. We had over 40% revenue growth, gross margin was above 54%. Very strong cash flow generation as well. If anything, probably the expectations were very high in terms of the increased amount of exit bikes that we could supply into the market. But if you take a step back, really, the fundamentals for ongoing revenue growth margin expansion, cash flow generation remain very strong. On the demand side, demand from hyperscalers, new clouds physical remains very robust and we continue to see over 25% CAGR demand from a demand perspective over the next five years. Similarly, on the supply side, we have a very robust roadmap that we have put in place that will be able to meet this demand. And so it's pretty much a function of just quarterly transitions that we're going through.
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I think what you're touching on there is, you know, storage is distinct in many ways from what's happening in memory. In some ways highly analogous. Right. There is a pricing story there, there is a demand outpacing supply story. And your industry facing the balancing act of expanding output manufacturing capacity on a, on a permanent basis or not. How are you managing all of that?
Irving (Hard Drive Industry Executive)
Yeah, so first of all, thank you for highlighting that. It's a clear distinction between memory, which is like NAN and DRAM versus storage because memory and like compute is being recycled all the time for different workloads. But the data that's being generated continues to be stored. It isn't getting deleted. So the amount of data storage requirements is just compounding over time, which puts a lot of more demand on our products on an ongoing basis. And how we're trying to solve for that is really to technology. We're not investing in increasing the number of drive units we are producing. We continue to invest in technology to increase the amount of hits and media that we produce because that's the big driver of capacity in a drive. So we are currently shipping a 32 terabyte hard drive as our top of the line drive. But starting this quarter we'll be shipping a 40 terabyte drive. So that's an ability to drive over 30% capacity to customers without adding any unit capacity.
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Could you go into into how that works? You know, bring a 40 terabyte drive to market, the engineering complexity of it and how much do the customers have to sort of re architect their infrastructure to accommodate for that new generation of of hdd?
Irving (Hard Drive Industry Executive)
Yeah, well, hard drives are actually as an engineer, I always do hard drives as a marvel of engineering. We use two thirds of the periodic table in our product. So as we move from capacity point to capacity point, there's a lot of re engineering that goes on into the of our media designs, the recipe of our head design. So it's quite an engineering feat. Obviously we have great teams that have years of experience doing that. At the same time, we work very closely with our customers to make sure we go through very robust qualification processes because customers are very sensitive to the quality and reliability of their data storage capability.
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The other sort of highly analogous factor that is in front of you is long term agreements. With the memory market, we see long term agreements coming in as well. So you have these in place like 2029, 2030, 2031. How do you know how to price an agreement today going that far into the future?
Irving (Hard Drive Industry Executive)
It's a really good question. We do have LTA is in place locked in till 29. We have customer demand. Customers are coming US to put LTA's in place to support demand for 29, 30 and 31. They have really good visibility in terms of the storage requirements they need because they're looking at the entire infrastructure stack, everything from GPUs to CPUs to HBMs to NAND. Yes, to storage. And they realize it has to take a much longer term time horizon in terms of how they plan. So we are working very closely with them. We're definitely locking in the sort of exabyte supply that they need. But what we're working through with them is still the commercial construct of how we would price something further out into.
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Right. So let me look at it another way. Somebody comes to you and says, Irving, I'm a big customer and I want to lock you in until 2031. Why might you Say no.
Irving (Hard Drive Industry Executive)
Well, what we are saying is if you need 600 exabytes of storage in 2031, we will deliver that to you. How we actually price it. We're still in negotiations with them where we might have a base price for a percentage of that volume and then a tip stop tier pricing structure as we increase the capacity we deliver to them.
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I don't mean to trivialize this in any way, but you know, like it's the hard disk drive moment, you know, make hard disk drive great again. What's, what's that been like for you to put the technology at the forefront of discussion at the moment?
Irving (Hard Drive Industry Executive)
Well, it's really exciting. I mean, people thought that, you know, hard drives were a thing of the past, but it's shown to be a fundamental piece of the infrastructure stack with 80% of all storage in the cloud and ISE continuing to reside on hard drives both today and going forward. So it's a very exciting time for us. It's a great challenge and I always tell my teams it's a great responsibility that we have to deliver to the industry to enable this once in a lifetime opportunity that AI is creating.
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Date: August 6, 2026
Host: Ed Ludlow (Bloomberg)
Guest: Irving Tan (CEO, Western Digital)
This bonus episode features a deep-dive interview with Irving Tan, CEO of Western Digital, exploring the surging demand for data storage in the AI era. Host Ed Ludlow and Tan discuss the company’s latest financial performance, the technological evolution of hard drives, long-term customer agreements, and what the “hard disk drive moment” means for the industry’s future in cloud and AI infrastructure.
"If you look at the results that we delivered in Q4 fiscal 26, they were very strong. We had over 40% revenue growth, gross margin was above 54%."
— Irving Tan (00:57)
"We're not investing in increasing the number of drive units we are producing. We continue to invest in technology to increase the amount of hits and media that we produce because that's the big driver of capacity in a drive."
— Irving Tan (02:24)
"We use two thirds of the periodic table in our product. So as we move from capacity point to capacity point, there's a lot of re-engineering that goes on..."
— Irving Tan (03:40)
"They realize it has to take a much longer term time horizon in terms of how they plan. So we are working very closely with them."
— Irving Tan (04:37)
"If you need 600 exabytes of storage in 2031, we will deliver that to you. How we actually price it, we're still in negotiations..."
— Irving Tan (05:30)
"People thought that, you know, hard drives were a thing of the past, but it's shown to be a fundamental piece of the infrastructure stack with 80% of all storage in the cloud... continuing to reside on hard drives..."
— Irving Tan (06:02)
"The fundamentals for ongoing revenue growth, margin expansion, [and] cash flow generation remain very strong."
— Irving Tan (01:11)
"Hard drives are actually, as an engineer, I always viewed hard drives as a marvel of engineering."
— Irving Tan (03:40)
"We work very closely with our customers to make sure we go through very robust qualification processes because customers are very sensitive to the quality and reliability of their data storage capability."
— Irving Tan (04:03)
"It's a great responsibility that we have to deliver to the industry to enable this once in a lifetime opportunity that AI is creating."
— Irving Tan (06:16)
For listeners and tech sector stakeholders alike, this episode makes clear: the future of AI-driven infrastructure rests on innovation not just in computing, but in the humble—and continually advancing—hard disk drive.