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Episode: SpaceX Said to Pursue 2026 IPO
Date: December 10, 2025
Host: Ed Ludlow (Bloomberg Tech)
Featured Guests: Eric Johnson (Bloomberg Space Editor), Phil Haslett (Chief Strategy Officer, EquityZen), Will Whitehorn (Chairman, Seraphim Space), CITI Panagrahi (Mizuho), Laura Martin (Needham), Bloomberg Technology Reporters

Episode Overview

This episode is driven by Bloomberg's exclusive reporting of SpaceX planning a historic IPO for mid-2026, targeting to raise over $30 billion—potentially becoming the largest IPO ever with a targeted valuation of $1.5 trillion. The discussion spans the drivers behind SpaceX’s capital needs, the implications for both private and public markets, and the broader context including AI strategy shifts at Meta, chip sales to China, content mega-mergers in Hollywood, and major tech earnings.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. SpaceX’s Blockbuster IPO Plans

Timestamps: 03:00–08:09, 41:12–48:08

• Announcement & Context:

  • Bloomberg exclusively reports SpaceX is planning an IPO for 2026, aiming to raise well over $30 billion, eclipsing all previous records.
  • The tentative post-IPO valuation is set at around $1.5 trillion.

• Strategic Rationale for the Raise:

  • Funds are expected to support Musk's ambitions, notably:
    • Massive capital investments in Starship rocket development for lunar and Mars missions.
    • Construction of data centers in space powered by solar, integrating advanced AI computing clusters ("SpaceX AI cluster, the SpaceX stack space-based data center").
    • Expansion and technology upgrades for the Starlink satellite internet business.
  • “Musk is known for his grandiose visions... The money could be used for [moon and Mars], data centers in space, and Starlink expansion.”
    —Eric Johnson (04:39)

• Starlink’s Role:

  • Starlink has become a major revenue driver, expected to remain the company's “cash cow.”
  • Starlink’s business includes millions of customers and partnerships with airlines, bringing widespread usage and strong growth, but also high expectations.
  • “Customers are favorable... Investors are seeing that growth... Can he continue Starlink’s growth and also direct-to-cell promises?”
    —Eric Johnson (07:14)

• Current Valuation Trends:

  • SpaceX recently set its secondary market valuation to $800 billion ($421 per share) via a capped $2 billion employee share tender.
  • This process “sets the market valuation... as a precursor to the IPO.” —Eric Johnson (05:59)
  • “SpaceX is the most requested private company on [EquityZen]—tons of retail exuberance.”
    —Phil Haslett (08:59)

• Ownership & IPO Structure Concerns:

  • Existing shareholder base is relatively concentrated (Founders Fund, Fidelity, Google, select VCs), but also a wide “long tail” due to decades of employees.
  • The IPO may be partly driven by regulatory requirements as private companies with over 2,000 shareholders must begin reporting financials.
  • “As a private entity, can only have 2,000 shareholders... That may be a bit of a driver here as well.”
    —Phil Haslett (10:22)

• Private Market vs. IPO Valuations:

  • “$800 billion is not necessarily the market price, but the price SpaceX decided is out there.”
    —Phil Haslett (12:06)
  • SpaceX’s IPO would “put it in uncharted waters... This would probably be literally the most exciting IPO we’ve ever seen.”
    —Phil Haslett (13:15)

• Industry and Ecosystem Impact:

  • SpaceX’s IPO is forecast to have “seismic” effects across the space industry, boosting suppliers, satellite companies, and growing the space-based data economy.
  • “Link Starlink to AI data centers—you’re seeing an entire ecosystem of businesses growing up... Space and AI will become interlinked like never before.”
    —Will Whitehorn (42:18)
  • The potential for ripple effects in climate, defense, agriculture, fintech, and insurance sectors due to rising need for space-derived data.
    —Will Whitehorn (43:56)

• Leadership Question:

  • With Musk soon to be at the helm of two of the world’s largest public companies, investors are concerned about focus and succession.
  • “Is it realistic that this man leads two public companies at that scale for the long term?”
    —Ed Ludlow (47:23)
  • “This is going to be an issue investors will look at very, very closely.”
    —Will Whitehorn (47:45)

2. Meta’s Pivot Away from Open Source AI

Timestamps: 16:44–18:58

• Meta (Facebook) AI Model “Avocado”:
  • Mark Zuckerberg now leans toward a closed model for monetization, steering away from the open-source “flag waving” of previous years.
  • “After July, they told employees not to speak publicly about open source... a resetting of the strategy.” —Bloomberg reporter (18:18)
  • Motivation is to show returns on Meta’s multibillion-dollar AI investment; internal tensions visible.

3. US-China Chip Controls: Nvidia & Deep Seek

Timestamps: 18:58–21:42

• US Approves Nvidia H200 Chip Sales to China:
  • Motivated by the assessment that China’s Huawei already matches this capability, thus the security risk is deemed “lower.”
• Blackwell Chip Smuggling Claims:
  • Nvidia refutes reports that Blackwell chips have been widely smuggled into China, calling it “far fetched.”
  • “Nvidia: These smuggling claims are a bit far fetched... They [investigate] every tip... haven’t seen evidence.” —Bloomberg Reporter (21:13)

4. Oracle & Adobe Earnings Previews

Timestamps: 22:18–26:28 (Oracle), 48:23–50:29 (Adobe)

Oracle:

• Cloud Business Focus:
  • Investors worried about Oracle’s negative free cash flow for the first time since 1992, despite strong cloud growth (“OCI”).
  • “Investors are concerned about free cash flow... Oracle has multiple options for funding data center buildout.”
    —CITI Panagrahi (23:09)
• Contract Security with OpenAI:
  • Large OpenAI contracts boost backlog but questions remain about customers fulfilling obligations.

Adobe:

• Challenges in the AI Era:
  • Facing skepticism from investors despite efforts to position as an “AI-first” company.
  • “There’s a lot of worries about whether Adobe... will survive all the newfound competitors.”
    —Phil Haslett (48:43)
• Embracing Third-Party AI:
  • Recently announced partnership with OpenAI, signaling willingness to integrate external models.

5. Streaming Mega-Deals: Warner Bros Discovery Bidding War

Timestamps: 27:19–36:05

• Bidding Battle for Warner Bros Discovery:

  • Netflix and Paramount’s Skydance are both vying for WBD, with bids up to $30/share, far above previous trading levels.
  • “Kudos to Zaslav for creating this auction... 300% premium over prior trading.”
    —Laura Martin (30:40)

• Antitrust Risks:

  • Analysts see a higher regulatory risk with Netflix winning versus Paramount, due to market concentration and anti-competitive fears in Hollywood and among talent.
  • “If Netflix owned Warner Brothers... within five years they would stop releasing films in theatrical box office, which is why we’ve seen pressure on the exhibitors.”
    —Laura Martin (31:22)

• Consumer Impact:

  • Bundling HBO Max and Netflix could simplify, but likely at a higher price point for consumers—the primary antitrust concern.
  • “Price would go up for consumers if they combine those two assets, I think.”
    —Laura Martin (36:05)

6. View from Disney on Entertainment Industry M&A

Timestamps: 36:37–37:36

• Post-M&A Integration Experience:
  • Dana Walman, Disney Co-Chairman, sees little threat from new consolidations given Disney’s own integration of Fox and emphasizes regulatory/timing hurdles over actual competition.
  • “Whomever ends up in this situation... These are situations that require time: regulatory approval, integration, apps.”
    —Dana Walman (37:10)

Notable Quotes

• Eric Johnson (Bloomberg) [04:39]:

  “Musk is known for his grandiose visions.... So the money could be used for Starship, data centers in space, and Starlink expansion.”

• Phil Haslett (EquityZen) [08:59]:

  “SpaceX is the most popularly requested private company on [our] platform... retail exuberance about investing in SpaceX.”

• Will Whitehorn (Seraphim) [42:18]:

  “This is a seismic event for the entire space industry... Space and AI will become interlinked in a way they never have before.”

• Laura Martin (Needham) [31:22]:

  “Hollywood is really negative... if suddenly Netflix owned Warner Brothers... within five years they would stop releasing films in the theatrical box office.”

• Bloomberg Reporter on Meta [18:18]:

  “After July, they told employees not to be talking publicly about open source as Meta reset its strategy.”

Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:00–08:09 — SpaceX IPO details, funding rationale, Starlink focus (Ed Ludlow, Eric Johnson)
• 08:59–13:38 — Private market interest, equity structure, and valuation challenges (Phil Haslett)
• 41:12–48:08 — SpaceX IPO’s industry impact; AI/data synergy; private/public crosscurrents (Will Whitehorn)
• 16:44–18:58 — Meta's AI strategy pivot, open/closed model debate (Bloomberg reporters)
• 27:19–36:13 — Warner Bros Discovery auction: bids, Hollywood sentiment, antitrust (Laura Martin)
• 22:18–26:28; 48:23–50:29 — Oracle/Adobe tech earnings, business model shifts
• 19:44–21:42 — US chip export controls, Nvidia/China (Maggie Eastland)

Tone & Language

The conversation is brisk, data-driven, and analytical—typical of Bloomberg's market coverage—with moments of dry humor (“Debtflix”), candid skepticism about some valuations and deals, and minimal editorializing on the facts. Notable is the industry-insider perspective, with poignant direct quotes and lived observations (e.g., Will Whitehorn’s historical analogies, Laura Martin’s Hollywood view).

Conclusion

This episode revolves around SpaceX’s anticipated record-breaking IPO, diving into both its vast ambitions and the capital structures enabling those ambitions. The broader context includes evolving AI business models, regulatory chess in tech/hardware exports, transformative Hollywood mergers, and shifting public market expectations for big-cap tech companies—all delivered with Bloomberg’s signature authority and up-to-the-moment analysis.

For listeners wanting to keep pace with where technology, capital markets, and industrial strategy converge, this is a can't-miss episode.