Trump Headlines White House Correspondents' Dinner; Measles Cases Rise

Summary

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Episode: Trump Headlines White House Correspondents' Dinner; Measles Cases Rise
Date: July 25, 2026
Hosts: David Gura, Christina Raffini, Lisa Mateo

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Overview

This episode of Bloomberg This Weekend covers a rich array of timely topics including President Trump’s return to the White House Correspondents’ Dinner in the wake of a security breach, escalating geopolitical risks in global energy, the alarming U.S. measles spike, and the cultural phenomenon of Christopher Nolan’s Odyssey adaptation. The episode is marked by insightful expert interviews, vivid on-scene reporting, and engaging cultural commentary, all delivered in Bloomberg’s trademark crisp, conversational style.

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Table of Contents

1. Trump at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner
2. Geopolitical Tensions & the Oil Market
3. U.S. Measles Spike & Public Health Response
4. The Odyssey Finds New Life in Film
5. Notable Quotes & Moments
6. Timestamps

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1. Trump at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner

(02:21 – 08:59)

Key Points

• Return After Violence: President Trump returned to the White House Correspondents’ Dinner following a previous event marred by a gunman’s security breach.
• Condemnation & Rhetoric: Trump condemned political violence but simultaneously attacked both political opponents and the press in a speech blending seriousness with abrasive humor.
• Attendance & Atmosphere: This year’s event was notably smaller (700 attendees vs. 2,600 pre-incident), giving it a more "intimate" and less celebrity-laden feel.
  • Jeff Mason (Bloomberg White House Correspondent): “It was pretty much the program that was meant to have gone on in April, just three months later. … Instead of about 2,600 people, there were fewer than 700 in the room.” (04:09)
• Speech Highlights:
  • Trump joked about running for a fourth presidential term, referencing his history of challenging constitutional limits.
  • The press maintained “straight faces,” reflecting journalistic neutrality amid political provocation.
  • Questions linger over whether future dinners will remain scaled down for safety, but the plan is to return to the traditional venue next year.
• Debate on the Dinner’s Future:
  • Some in the press are questioning the dinner’s ongoing structure and purpose amid changing security realities.

Notable Quote

“This place is really the largest group of Trump derangement syndrome people ever put together at one time. … My intention to run for a fourth term as president of the United States. I will be doing that.”
— President Trump (02:34)

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2. Geopolitical Tensions & the Oil Market

(09:11 – 22:19)

Key Points

• Red Sea Shipping Risks:
  • Houthi actions (aligned with Iran) have threatened vital shipping lanes, particularly at the Bab Al Mandeb Strait, a critical route for Saudi oil exports.
  • Some Saudi oil tankers have turned back, while select vessels have successfully run the blockade, contributing to ongoing volatility in oil prices.
    • Stephen Sobchinski (Bloomberg Energy Reporter): “There is some oil flowing through, but…there are some ships turning around.” (09:37)
• Market Reactions:
  • Oil prices reacted to shifting geopolitical news, oscillating between $96 and $100 Brent per barrel.
  • The greater market fear is escalation: direct Saudi-Houthi conflict could imperil not just distribution routes but vital energy infrastructure.
• Global Inventories Under Pressure:
  • Strategic reserves (including the U.S. SPR) are at historic lows; Asian customers have generally replaced, not replenished, their supplies.
  • “You’re in a situation where oil inventories are low. But it’s not just oil. … Natural gas in Europe [is] at the lowest seasonal level in about five years.” (Stephen Sobchinski, 16:51)
• Ukraine War’s Energy Domino Effect:
  • Ukraine’s and Russia’s mutual attacks on energy infrastructure have further tightened global oil and refined products supply, especially diesel.
    • “You’re getting the crude hit from Kazakhstan and also the diesel hit, again tightening things for consumers globally.” (Stephen Sobchinski, 21:05)

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3. U.S. Measles Spike & Public Health Response

(25:19 – 32:13)

Key Points

• Surge in Cases:
  • CDC reports 2,318 measles cases—highest since 1991, surpassing last year entirely.
    • “It’s really a no brainer. We got there because vaccination rates fell below the herd immunity threshold.” — Dr. Amish Adalja (25:52)
• Vaccination: The Core Issue:
  • Outbreak driven largely by unvaccinated individuals; solution = get more vaccines in arms.
  • Most adults vaccinated as children don’t need boosters.
• Effectiveness of Messaging:
  • There’s no universal campaign: personalized, non-judgmental outreach by primary care providers is most effective.
  • Directly countering prominent anti-vaccine figures is sometimes necessary.
    • “We know that people will move towards vaccination if they can get answers to the questions they have in a non-judgmental way.” (Dr. Adalja, 27:42)
• Loss of Elimination Status:
  • U.S. on the verge of officially losing measles elimination status.
    • “For all intents and purposes, the U.S. does not have the ability to control measles any longer.” (Dr. Adalja, 29:05)
• Economic and Social Cost:
  • Outbreaks lead to school/work disruptions and strain on public health resources.
    • “It’s money that doesn’t need to be spent because these measles cases are happening voluntarily by people’s choices.” (Dr. Adalja, 29:53)
• Broader Food Safety Concerns:
  • Cyclospora outbreak linked to tainted lettuce highlights reduced government capacity due to budget cuts, leading to slower outbreak responses.

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4. The Odyssey Finds New Life in Film

(35:14 – 42:55)

Key Points

• Christopher Nolan’s Blockbuster Adaptation:
  • Nolan's adaptation of The Odyssey becomes a cinematic hit, sparking renewed interest in the ancient epic.
• Interview with Emily Wilson (UPenn):
  • As the first woman to translate the Odyssey into English, Wilson describes the joy and surprise at its cultural resurgence:
    • “I love that Homer is getting all of this new free press thanks to Christopher Nolan…He’s really put his humanities education to good use.” (Emily Wilson, 36:13)
  • She attended the movie with her children and calls the whole moment “wonderful.”
• Impact on Classics:
  • Sales and library checkouts of the Odyssey are up 1,420%. The renewed interest is drawing a more diverse set of students to classics.
    • “It’s kids from all different backgrounds. … Percy Jackson books as children [often spark their interest].” (Emily Wilson, 38:38)
• Diversity in Interpretation:
  • Wilson (and the hosts) discuss how varied backgrounds among translators and students enrich interpretations, but she resists over-emphasizing gender in literary work.
• Process of Translation:
  • Wilson worked primarily from the Greek, with a focus on poetic meter and the vividness of Homer, rather than consulting other English translations.
    • “I actually need to spend the time by myself wrestling with it.” (Emily Wilson, 41:36)

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5. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Trump, on Press Crowd:

  “This place is really the largest group of Trump derangement syndrome people ever put together at one time.” (02:34)

• Jeff Mason, on Dinner Atmosphere:

  “It was pretty much the program that was meant to have gone on in April, just three months later. … Instead of about 2,600 people, there were fewer than 700 in the room.” (04:09)

• Dr. Amish Adalja:

  “We know that people will move towards vaccination if they can get answers to the questions they have in a non-judgmental way.” (27:42)
  “The U.S. does not have the ability to control measles any longer.” (29:05)

• Emily Wilson, on Odyssey’s Popularity:

  “Sales of the Odyssey and library checkouts...up by some order of magnitude this summer, which I think is wonderful.” (37:42)

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6. Timestamps for Important Segments

• Trump at White House Correspondents’ Dinner: 02:21 – 08:59
• Global Oil Market & Security Risks: 09:11 – 22:19
• Measles Outbreak & Vaccination Challenges: 25:19 – 32:13
• Odyssey Film, Classics in the Spotlight: 35:14 – 42:55

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Tone & Style:
The episode maintains a blend of newsy urgency, expert depth, and a touch of humor. From Jeff Mason’s on-the-ground color at the Correspondents’ Dinner to Emily Wilson’s wry delight in suddenly being a Central Park “tech bro” talking point, the hosts ensure the podcast is both informative and accessible.

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For listeners:

This episode is a must-listen for anyone seeking to understand current intersections between politics, global risks, public health, and culture. The expert interviews and spirited discussions bring both context and personality to headline news.

Transcript

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[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

President Trump returned to the White House Correspondent Dinner. The initial dinner, of course, ended abruptly after a gunman breached security.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Well, the president condemned political violence at the dinner last night, while at the same time attacking political opponents and the press at large.

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But tonight we come back together to answer that heinous attack with unwavering resolve. And every one of us here this evening to show that in America we do not yield to Political violence. As I said three months ago, the show must go on. But this place is the really the largest group of Trump derangement syndrome people ever put together at one time. I suspect this evening it's really all about the fake news media and your handling of prizes, writing and producing and performing made up stories like the Academy Awards. And this is a somewhat of a scoop. My intention to run for a fourth term as president of the United States. I will be doing that. I will be having an official. In fact, I think I have, yeah, I won three times now. I'm going to do it again. Thank you.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Joining us now is Bloomberg White House correspondent Jeff Mason. He was at last night's dinner. He was president in the past of the White House Correspondents Association. Jeff, great to see you. And I guess I should start just by asking you about the feeling in the room we were all there at. The first iteration of this dinner took place at the Washington Hilton, a giant ballroom. This was a much smaller affair, different affair. How much was the program last night duplicative of what was supposed to happen at that first dinner just a couple of months ago?

[Jeff Mason - White House Correspondent]

I think it was pretty close, in fact, the fact that of course the president spoke, the president association spoke, the awards were given to members of the press and also student journalists were recognized for scholarships. And then there was the mentalist at the end as well. It was pretty much the program that was meant to have gone on in April just three months later. And with the fact that that shooting stopped, that dinner that was overshadowing, I guess you could say this dinner again. But in general, the program was the same, but the venue was smaller. And that was very noticeable, certainly for someone who's attended a bunch of dinners. The ballroom at the Hilton of course fits more than 2,000 people. It's the biggest ballroom in Washington. This one was Instead of about 2,600 people, there were fewer than 700 in the room. That doesn't mean it's small, but it's just a much, much more, I guess you could say intimate size of a dinner. And that changed the mood in the room too. And we can talk a little bit more about this. But when the president spoke, I think that he also was speaking to what for him was an unusual crowd in that most of the people in that room were journalists like myself. And it was not a friendly crowd for what ended up being very much like a rally speec.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

That's an interesting point, Jeff, because I mean we attended the first center and it is a huge ballroom as you mentioned, and it's a mixed crowd because the journalists invite so many guests. You have entertainment people. You often invite people who are familiar or close to the White House. This is a much smaller room. And I imagine, you know, if he's used to speaking to a bigger crowd, it's harder when the audience is right in front of you and you can see some of those reactions. I mean, what were the reactions to jokes? Like, I'm assuming it was a joke, you know, running for a fourth term and some of the other remarks. And then there were also, you wrote a few awkward moments where awards were presented to journalists for being hard on this White House. How did the president react to that?

[Jeff Mason - White House Correspondent]

Yeah, I mean, to your first question, first the reaction were a lot of straight faces in the crowd, because that's our job. You know, I mean, I certainly was keeping a straight face, and I think so were most of the reporters in the room who are. Who are committed to neutrally covering this president and recognize that that joke, as it were, of him running for what he called a fourth term is a joke about the Constitution, which, of course, prohibits him from running for another term when he's already served two, which he will have at the end of his second term now. But he, I mean, it's also, again, a quote, unquote joke that is rooted in the fact that that's something that he was actively thinking about at the beginning of his term and something that he has openly mused about. I think right now it is a joke. I mean, he has stopped talking about it regularly, particularly after speaker of the House Mike Johnson basically told him this is unconstitutional. And he seems to have accepted that. And so I think he likes to poke at the press with stuff like that. And that was one of the things that he did last night. Remind me your other question, Christina.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

That's all right, Jeff. We can move on. I know you've had, like, three hours of sleep, so we're very grateful for you getting up. Friend of the show, Jeff Mason. We really appreciate you, David.

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[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Yeah, just a generous. I mean, there's been this. Over the course of having this dinner, there's been a conversation about should it be smaller, should it involve fewer celebrities, fewer members of the administration? I'm curious, as you experienced the dinner last night, did it give you a sense of maybe this is the way that it's headed in light of the criticism most recently that it faced after that first dinner? How has the conversation about the longevity of this dinner changed in the context of the one that we had last night.

[Jeff Mason - White House Correspondent]

You know, I think the answer to that is still tbd. The incoming president of the association, Jackie Heinrich, who works for Fox News, announced that the dinner would be held again next year back at the Hilton. So that was certainly a foreshadowing by the association that they're not looking to keep the scaled down version as a model. But yes, you're not wrong to say that this sparked a lot of conversations, certainly about security at the Hilton and security for this event. But it also sparked some conversation within the press corps itself about this dinner more broadly. And it's you know, there are people who are who are big fans of this dinner in Washington and there are people who aren't. And I imagine those conversations will continue.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Jeff Mason, come back here in a little bit. We'll let you take a nap over the course of the next maybe 40 minutes. Bringing back probably take a while to take a quick disco nap. Jeff Mason, our White House correspondent, joining us on the heels of the White House Correspondents association dinner which took place last night.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

Thanks, Jeff. All right. Just hours ago, the UK Maritime Trade Operations center warned of an incident involving a tanker and military forces in the Gulf of Oman and is warning vessels in the area to remain diligent.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Joining us now is Bloomberg energy and commodities reporter Stephen Sobchinski, who joins us now from Singapore. Great to have you with us. And I want to start just by asking you how the contours of this war have changed here in recent days. The Houthis, which are, of course, aligned with the Iranians getting into this conflict, announcing this blockade. And maybe I could ask you first what effect that's had so far on the oil trade and sort of what traders, what investors are thinking about the consequences of that going forward.

[Stephen Sobchinski - Bloomberg Energy Reporter]

You know, I think the market is still trying to digest exactly what is happening in the Red Sea and at the Bab Al Mandeb Strait, which is where the Houthis are trying to tighten control. Now, let's put this into context. Since the Strait of Hormuz closed effectively since the end of February when the US And Israel began strikes on Iran, Saudi Arabia was beginning to ship more of its oil. 4 million barrels per day were loaded in the Red Sea through an east west pipeline. Normally that oil be flowing through Hormuz. It was shot. So they were using this workaround. The oil would then go south down through the Red Sea through the Al Mandab Strait and then out to customers in Asia. And what's happened is with the Houthi rebels increasing attacks, targeting specifically Saudi ships. There was a fear that this key workaround was now in danger and either would lead to delays or even a reduction in loading from Saudi ports because that would require them going through the north, through the Suez Canal, through and then around the Southern Cape of Africa to get the customers. In Asia, we did see a few ships u turn over the last week away from the Babel Mandeb straight. But in the last 24 hours we did see two China linked super oil tankers though carrying Saudi crude did get through. So it's a mixed picture. There is some oil flowing through, but at the same time there are some ships turning around. And you saw oil prices. Brent was about $100 a barrel when I was leaving the office Asia afternoon, but it closed the session US afternoon around 96, $97, which indicates a bit of a fall after those Red Red Sea flows continued. But at the same time, you have to remember this is Friday. You never know what Trump's going to do. It was probably a lot of people just wanting to enjoy their weekend as well and, and not have to worry about having a long position going in. But at the same time, the market, the way they're looking at this, it is a risk and this is the biggest escalation of the war in the region and attacks on infrastructure and risk to oil that we've seen since March and April.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

I'm wondering, can you define that risk a little bit? Because I know according to a report from cbs, at least seven major pipeline projects are under construction trying to find alternatives to the strait. And I know the main threat right now in the Red Sea is the distribution point. But we've also got reports this morning the Houthis have claimed to have struck Saudi Arabia with missiles on Saturday morning. Is the concern mostly about that Red Sea distribution point or is the concern also that an escalation between Saudis and the Houthis could start to impact Saudi production as well?

[Stephen Sobchinski - Bloomberg Energy Reporter]

You know, I think that's a really good point and it's both, I would go even a step further that any sort of flare up between Saudi Arabia and the Houthis and the Houthis attacking ships, Trump himself has said that they will then if their ships attacked by the Houthis, they will then attack Iran. And he's, he's threatened power plants and bridges. Iran in time said that if that happens, they will attack energy infrastructure throughout the region. The biggest risk in this war since since February hasn't necessarily been the closure of these straits, these waterways. Sure, they can be closed, but with a good peace deal, they could open up within weeks and trade could resume to normal in months. The real fear has been if this escalates into a wider conflict within the region, if energy infrastructure, pipelines, liquefied, natural gas plants, ships, if they're getting attacked, that's infrastructure that can't easily come back online if there is a peace deal. So the reason why oil was at $120 in March wasn't so much because of the Hormuz closure, it was because Iran kept attacking infrastructure across the region. We haven't gotten to that worst case scenario that we've seen three or four months back, but if it does spiral into that sort of situation, yes, certainly that is something that the market is going to be deeply worried about. And if Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, other countries, Qatar's LNG export plant, if all those facilities are either damaged more or if they have to reduce production Support for

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[Stephen Sobchinski - Bloomberg Energy Reporter]

Then certainly we'll see another leg up in Brent and WTI oil prices.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Stephen, I sat down with Fatih B Roll a few weeks ago and we talked about the state of inventories around the world and countries have begun to kind of refill those reserves that they had in the lulls that we've seen. Sounds like they haven't. Can you just get us up to speed sort of on the status of reserves globally? I know there's been a lot of focus here in the US where the Strategic Petroleum Reserve is the lowest it's been in a very long, long time. How much effort has there been around the world to kind of replenish those reserves that have been deployed on an emergency basis since the start of this conflict?

[Stephen Sobchinski - Bloomberg Energy Reporter]

You know, I think, I think the better way to look at it perhaps is that a lot of customers in Asia of Persian Gulf oil, they're really looking at. They were looking at replacing their supply instead of replenishing. So there hasn't been a really big effort to refill inventories. As you said, the SPR in the United States, lowest level in decades. Cushing as well. A key point is getting low. It continues to decrease. Chinese oil inventories are something that are opaque. You're not exactly sure what's going on there. But there is an expectation that China used quite a lot of their oil inventories when. When their imports dropped pretty significantly in April, May, and then into June, so. And then Japan as well. All the other G7 nations had been using their SPR. So you're in a situation where oil inventories are low. But it's not just oil. It's also other fuels. Diesel, gasoline, jet, Fuel, the amount of supply globally is at an uncomfortable level, and that's why you're seeing those product prices rise as well. And it's also not just oil products, it's also natural gas. In Europe, natural gas inventories at the lowest seasonal level in about five years, they're not on pace to hit an 80% target refill by November, which is what they want to be at when winter starts, because in winter in Europe, they use a lot of natural gas for heating. So inventories are a problem. And I think the issue is we pulled that lever in March and April to help ease some of the pain in the oil market. And because of this current situation with depleted inventories, you can't really pull that lever again if this hormuz closure continues and if the Bab El Mandeb Strait as well is affected. So it is a worrying part of the market.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

Are you starting to see that stress a little bit in the prices of oil? I mean, it seems to me as we've been covering this conflict, there's been kind of this indefatigable optimism, of somewhat frustrating optimism for those of us who cover diplomacy, that this is going to get resolved. But I'm wondering if that's because they did have those strategic reserves as kind of a buffer, and as those start to deplete, do you think that optimism will start to wane as well?

[Stephen Sobchinski - Bloomberg Energy Reporter]

I think there are a few reasons why oil has. I mean, granted, we're at $100 Brent in very just a few short weeks. So I would say that we're at a pretty relatively high level. We're not the highs of 120 that we were before, and we're certainly not near 200, which is what some analysts were warning about. Part of that is because of the workarounds. You know, the Saudi Arabia's Red Sea, the, the east west pipeline, they had their ADNOC in the UAE being able to do their, their shuttle service to get some oil out, which is to a degree continuing perhaps, although those ships are going dark as well. Chinese demand has not really returned. And China is one of the big factors. They're the biggest buyer of, of oil globally. So as long as China, Chinese demand doesn't come roaring back, that does add a lot of length and, and it does provide some ease to the market. But I would say it is showing up in some prices. I mean, you look at the diesel run rate or, or basically the, the, the profits that you can make from refining crude into diesel, gasoline and other products has jumped there is a need for those fuels. And there is a fear that those supplies are depleting natural gas in Europe. Those prices are at a settled basis at the Highest level since 2023. LNG prices in Asia are at the highest level since March and almost the highest level since January 2023. So you are starting to see some of that pain, maybe not showing up in crude itself, which is about $20 off from the highs of March, but you're seeing it in other products.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Steve, before we let you go, let me ask you about another shooting war, the one taking place in Ukraine and the effect that that's had on energy prices. We've talked a lot about the crack spread in recent weeks on this show, talked about refined products and we've seen Ukraine launching those attacks on energy facilities in Russia and we've seen Russia reply in kind, targeting energy facilities in Ukraine. What have been, what's our sense of the broader implications of that on the global energy market? Market, the way that that's escalated, I

[Stephen Sobchinski - Bloomberg Energy Reporter]

mean that's again, that's one more lever that the market was depending on that is now gone. So let's look at it from a crude perspective. The Black Sea is a key export area for Kazakhstan oil. It goes to the CPC through the CPC pipeline to a Russian port. And right now Russia, Moscow has basically said that it is unsafe for them to be docking there. Ukraine has targeted in recent weeks over 90 ships that, that are connected with Moscow. So you're removing those Kazakhstan supplies, which I believe is about 1 to 1.5% of global seaborne oil supply. It's not nothing. So again with, with Bab el Mandam Strait, with Hormuz, that's 1,1amount of oil that's that's reduced. Then you look at the refining capacity in, in Russia, which has been greatly affected and disrupted by constant attacks by Iran on, on the refineries. And Russia is a big, pretty big supplier and exporter of that fuel and they've had to restrain and essentially stop exports of diesel. Again, that tightens the global diesel market. So you're getting the, the crude hit from Kazakhstan and also the diesel hit again, tightening things for, for consumers globally.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

All right, Stephen Sipchinski, thank you for breaking that all down for us.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

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about healthcare for a second. It doesn't always work the way people expect it to. If you've ever waited on a prescription refill or had a hard time getting the care you needed, you know the feeling the system should just work better for everyone. That's exactly what the people at Optum are trying to do every day. They're a healthcare company linking patient care and pharmacy services and using data and technology to drive the whole system so care is connected, not complicated for patients and providers. Things like making it easier to get care that looks at the whole person. From primary care doctors to mental health support and even in home care. And then using technology to make sure they all work together. Technology designed to help doctors spend less time on busy work and more time with their patients and those prescriptions. Optum is working to bring costs down, save patients money and make it easier to get refills. Little by little, Optum is helping make healthcare work as one for everyone. Head to business.optum.com to see how.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

An alarming statistics from the CDC On Friday, the number of measles cases this year in the United States hit 2,318. That's higher than all of last year and is now the most infection since 1991.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

For more, we're joined by Dr. Amish Adalja. He's an infectious disease expert and senior scholar at Johns Hopkins University center for health security. Dr. Adalja, great to have you with us once again. And let me just start by asking about how we got to this. And I guess a natural follow on to that is what would the US need to do to kind of get beyond this or get back to the way things were? How far is the cat out of the bag?

[Dr. Amish Adalja - Infectious Disease Expert]

When you think about outbreaks, Sometimes it's hard to understand how things got started. How do you got to the status quo? With measles, it's really a no brainer. We got there because vaccination rates fell below the herd immunity threshold. And we're talking about what is the most contagious infectious disease that we humans face. One that requires a high level of immunity in the population and one in which it's circulating in many parts of the world. So all it took was for us to lower our armor, to lower our force field, and then measles came back. It never went away. And the solution is equally simple. It's just to get more vaccine into the arms of people who are unvaccinated, and then this problem will disappear.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

David and I have a selfish question. When we were putting this in the lineup Yesterday, we've had MMRs as kids. Are we protected people who had the usual vaccine course as children? Does that take you through adulthood? Or at some point, if you're in one of these places with high infection rates, do you need some sort of booster?

[Dr. Amish Adalja - Infectious Disease Expert]

For the vast, vast majority of people, the standard two dose childhood vaccination schedule will protect them for life. That doesn't mean that the vaccine is 100%, but it's pushing, you know, above 95%. So there's no generalized recommendation for boosters that are needed for the population. It's really about people who have had zero doses of measles. That's what's driving this.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

You know, in your line of work, a lot of what you deal with is kind of communication about the need for vaccination going forward. And I'm curious at this moment, when it seems like there are government officials who are not promoting them or not advocating for them, maybe it's incumbent more on public health practitioners like yourself to push for that. What is the messaging campaign like? In other words, how do you assess the way in which public health professionals are making the case for vaccines at a time when they seem more necessary than ever.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

And what kind of campaigns have been effective? Have you seen any that that have worked?

[Dr. Amish Adalja - Infectious Disease Expert]

So I think it depends upon why someone is not vaccinated. There may be people who haven't gotten around to getting their children vaccinated. There may be people who have questions about vaccines. So you kind of have to take a different tack depending upon where someone is. And often it's very different to do it kind of as a one size fits all message on television by a talking head versus a provider sitting in front of a patient or a patient's family and asking what questions do you have about measles? And I think that's the better way to do it. We know that people will move towards vaccination if they can get their answers, get answers to the questions that they have in a non judgmental way. That's a very different type of rhetoric when you're dealing with the likes of RFK Jr who is spreading disinformation, where you just have to basically call him out for spreading lies. So it's very kind of nuanced and very personalized and that's what works. We know that parents trust family doctors, they trust their primary care providers. That's where the actual movement occurs. Not so much when someone's on, you know, blasting from a megaphone about the vaccine.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

I think we talked about this last time you were on here, but it seems pretty much a fait accompli now that the US Is going to lose its measles elimination status. There was this hearing, the U.S. requested that it be pushed back until the fall. So now that decision won't come down until fall. But at this point, can you see any way that that doesn't happen given the case rates in the U.S. no.

[Dr. Amish Adalja - Infectious Disease Expert]

I think that the United States has effectively lost its elimination status. And even if by some technicality it maintains its elimination status, the deeper question is, does the United States have resiliency against measles? The answer is no, irrespective of what the elimination status decision is. And there will be politics around the elimination. So I think it's just for all intents and purposes, the US does not have the ability to control measles any longer.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

On the issue of control, I'm curious how that dovetails with kind of economic considerations. So when you look at where these outbreaks are, I saw there's one in Teton county in Wyoming, for instance. When you start to see an outbreak like this, so much work has to be done to track down who's been exposed to it, get the Word out, obviously mount a vaccination campaign as well. Could you talk a bit about the economic consequences of having a resurgence in a disease like measles in the way in which we're seeing here in the

[Dr. Amish Adalja - Infectious Disease Expert]

US So anytime there's an infectious disease, it will lead to disruption. People can't go about their activities of daily life, which means if it's a child with measles, that child can't go to school, that child's parents might have to stay home, that child's parents might have to hire someone to babysit. And then you have a health department that then has to go and investigate who was the person in touch with. Do they need to contact people? Do they need to do any kind of countermeasures to stop the measles from spreading in a given community? All of that costs money, and it's money that doesn't need to be spent because these measles cases are happening voluntarily by people's choices. This is not some force of nature. This is people's choice to not vaccinate their children. And then it has economic consequences that don't need to be incurred. And I think that's another important point to make with infectious diseases is that they keep humans from flourishing because they're stuck in bed sick, and they're not out there producing. They're out there innovating. And you're taking money that could be used for some other other concern. And now it's being put back to something. It's put into something that we shouldn't have to be putting money into when we've had a solution to this since the 1960s back.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

Before we let you go, we want to ask you about the other thing a lot of Americans are worried about, and that's a cyclospora going around with this, you know, possibly this tainted lettuce. It seems like. Did the administration, did the government react faster, fast enough? And is this a larger concern about food safety and oversight in the US

[Dr. Amish Adalja - Infectious Disease Expert]

I do think it was more of a reactive reaction from the government. I think state governments did very well, namely Michigan, which got hit very, very hard. But you have to remember that the CDC basically got decimated in this administration in terms of cuts to its budget. Whole divisions that were eliminated, including the division that would have been responsible for cyclospora. So there's less people doing this. So when you're thinking about a foodborne outbreak, it's time and speed and the speed to identify what the vehicle is that's spreading something. If you've got less people around to crunch the data to do the interviews with people who are, who are case patients. It's going to take longer and the state departments have done well, but they are also underfunded, chronically underfunded, understaffed. So it's, it is something that decreases the overall resiliency to foodborne illnesses when you don't have a robust system in place or when that system is being actively dismantled.

[Emily Wilson - Professor of Classical Studies]

All right.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

Dr. Dalja from Johns Hopkins University center for Health Security, thank you so much for joining us. Stay with us for more on Bloomberg this weekend, right after this.

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[Podcast Host - David Gura]

IBM let's talk about healthcare for a second. It doesn't always work the way people expect it to. If you've ever waited on a prescription refill or had a hard time getting the care you needed, you know the feeling the system should just work better for everyone. That's exactly what the people at Optum are trying to do every day. They're a healthcare company linking patient care and pharmacy services and using data and technology to drive the whole system. So care is connected, not complicated for patients and providers. Things like making it easier to get care that looks at the whole person, from primary care doctors to mental health support and even in home care. And then using technology to make sure they all work together. Technology designed to help doctors spend less time on busy work and more time with their patients and those prescriptions. Optum is working to bring costs down, save patients money and make it easier to get refills. Little by little, Optum is helping make healthcare work as one for everyone. Head to business.optum.com to see how.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Christopher Nolan's film treatment of the Odyssey has had an epic debut. Feel free to groan, Christina, if you'd like to. It's on track to rake in nearly $500 million in its first two weekends in theaters.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

The three hour long blockbuster is based on the 2700 year old Greek poem that inspired Nolan's screenplay. Joining us now is Emily Wilson, professor of Classical studies at the University of Pennsylvania and the first woman to translate the Odyssey into English. Emily Wilson, thank you so much for being here. I have a very strange anecdote to share, but it's relevant to how big this has become. I was in Central park yesterday walking my dumb little dog and I overheard two like bros in their 20s explaining the plot of the Odyssey to each other. And I turned around and I said, you know, I have Emily Wilson on our show tomorrow. And he went, what?

[Podcast Host - David Gura]

No way.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

I gotta watch it.

[Podcast Host - David Gura]

She's the chick who did the new translation.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

So did you ever think at any point when choosing this career you would have Central Park Tech bro name recognition?

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Who could have dared to on a random Friday?

[Emily Wilson - Professor of Classical Studies]

So weird. It's so funny. I mean, I still wake up and think this can't possibly be real. It's wonderful, though. I mean, I love that Homer is getting all of this New Free press thanks to Christopher Nolan, who was an English major, not a classics major, but he's really put his humanities education to good use.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

You brought your brood to see this film, I gather. I'm curious what you thought of it and how you, as somebody who has been so deeply immersed in this work, can you enjoy a film like this? Are you able to kind of enjoy it as a viewer or are you kind of constantly thinking about whether or not it's sticking literally to the text?

[Emily Wilson - Professor of Classical Studies]

I had a lot of fun, as you said. Yes. I took my three kids, my teenagers. One of them's over 20, but the others are teenagers. They all had a good time. I thought it was A fun time at the movies. I think, you know, I think there are many ways in which the book is better, but I would say that, right. I mean, this is a fun summer movie, and I think it's very entertaining. And I'm actually really looking forward to many years of discussing with my students how does the book relate to the film. I think it's really going to enrich classroom discussions of the Odyssey all around the world.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

I mean, it's interesting because there are people who take issue with the movie. There are people who take issue with your translation. The book may be better, but it's this big. I mean, is it good that people, like you said, are at all just showing interest in it? Does that, do you think, lead to more interest in the classics? And is controversy maybe a good thing to get people reading these. These texts?

[Emily Wilson - Professor of Classical Studies]

I think it's wonderful that this engagement of whatever kind. I mean, I think it is really clear that this film is bringing both lots and lots of people back to the physical movie theaters, which is, I think, also a good thing. But it's also bringing people back to. To reading big books. The sales of the Odyssey and library checkouts of the Odyssey to see my translation, but also other translations by some order of magnitude up this summer, which I think is wonderful. And it's just this new engagement with people who didn't maybe didn't think ancient literature could be, for me, realizing this is a really fun read and really interesting in so many different ways.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

Just to put a number on it. Sales are up 1,420% of hard copy books of the Odyssey.

[Emily Wilson - Professor of Classical Studies]

Crazy. Yes.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Interest and remuneration, I think, come hand in hand, which is good. Who's knocking on your door at Penn these days? What does a classics major look like? What's his or her background? Who's showing interest in majoring in the classics these days?

[Emily Wilson - Professor of Classical Studies]

You know, it's really very, very diverse. I mean, it's kids from all different backgrounds. I mean, I think back in the day, there used to be an idea that if you haven't gone to the kind of private school where you do Latin, then there's no hope for you as a classicist. And that's very much not true anymore. I mean, there's every possible background, every possible high school, even if you didn't go to a high school where you read the Odyssey in ninth grade, even if there wasn't Latin offered at your school. There's so many opportunities at the college level to get into this. I mean, one common thread that I see Especially in the big myth classes that I teach is very often it's kids who've read the Percy Jackson books as children very excited about following up with what. What is different about the Percy Jackson universe versus the universe that we get in Homer? And we have those discussions, and it's fun.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

Do you think that diversity makes for a better, more holistic study of the classics? I mean, we were mentioned you were the first woman to translate this text. Talk to us a little bit about what you think your perspective brought to that text as you looked at the language and searched for nuance. And does, you know, do people from different places, different backgrounds, different ethnicities bring that to these translations as well?

[Emily Wilson - Professor of Classical Studies]

I think that can be the case, yes. I mean, the first woman headline. I slightly resist the idea that women's work must always be defined by gender.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

And fair enough.

[Emily Wilson - Professor of Classical Studies]

Course, for many other female Homerists before me, the Odyssey and the Iliad have been translated into many other languages by women before me. I don't think you could pick out of a lineup which which translations are by women. I actually don't think that stands up to any particular scrutiny. I mean, I would say that, yes, of course, all kinds of background questions can feed into any interpretive activity, whether it's being a historian, being a journalist, being a translator, being a literary critic. The things that you both know as a scholar, as a reader, and also the things you know through embodied experience are going to feed into your interpretive work in some way or other. I mean, for me, my background in English poetics, as well as in Greek and Latin poetics seems essential to what I'm doing as a translator, insofar as my primary intervention, as I see it, is to do with using traditional metrical verse, in contrast to the vast majority of modern translators who've used unmetrical free verse or prose to translate Homer. And that has nothing to do with gender. It's about poetics.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Can I ask a dumb question about the way you work? So there's the Homeric question, of course. Who wrote this? Did he write this? And the Iliad, et cetera, et cetera. You know, you mentioned these other translations. So there's Fagles and Fitzgerald and Mendelssohn, for that matter. As you're writing this, as you were doing your translation, how much of that was in dialogue with those translations that you'd read previously? In other words, were you working principally from the text in ancient Greek, or were you drawing from at least inspiration from those texts, those translations as well,

[Emily Wilson - Professor of Classical Studies]

primarily from the Greek? And I don't actually, in terms of my practice, spend much time looking at other translations because most of the time if I'm wrestling with a particular problem about this line is so beautiful in these particular ways. How can I convey that using completely different words? It's not going to help me if I then look and see, oh, he did that. No, I can't use that anymore because he already stole that. So I actually need to spend the time by myself wrestling with it. I'd read a lot of commentaries. I, you know, reread the dictionary over and over to try and figure out how else is this word used where, wherever else it's used in ancient Greek. But it's not really about other looking at other translations. So of course, while I was starting this project, I was meditating on my experiences, especially in the classroom, using many different other translations and thinking about what doesn't get across when I use Bagels or when I use Lattimore. And primarily I thought about both meter and about the vividness, rapidity and the multivocality of Homer. About how. I mean, I think in some ways this is about how Homer can work for the screen as well as for the stage. In adaptation, the Odyssey was composed before drama existed, but it has these amazing speeches of characters who are so fully realized and we fully understand who Penelope is. Who this is, is.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

We're going to have to leave it there. Thank you so much.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

I want to speak with you.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

Excellent version of the Odyssey. My other favorite is, of course, Wishbone.

[Quiz Host]

Stay with us for more on Bloomberg this weekend, right after this.

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[Podcast Host - David Gura]

Let's talk about healthcare for a second. It doesn't always work the way people expect it to. If you've ever waited on a prescription refill or had a hard time getting the care you needed, you know the feeling the system should just work better for everyone. That's exactly what the people at Optum are trying to do every day. They're a healthcare company linking patient care and pharmacy services and using data and technology to drive the whole system. So care is connected, not complicated for patients and providers. Things like making it easier to get care that looks at the whole person. From primary care doctors to mental health support and even in home care. And then using technology to make sure they all work together. Technology designed to help doctors spend less time on busy work and more time with their patients and those prescriptions. Optum is working to bring costs down, save patients money and make it easier to get refills. Little by little, Optum is helping make healthcare work as one for everyone. Head to business.optum.com to see how.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

You've waited, as I have, for more than two hours for this. It's time for the pointed news quiz

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

here on the I tell you what, David Gura and Lisa Mateo. If you change the rules again to benefit David, I will walk off this set. There were some.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

She has a lot of. I always defer to Lisa. That's why I do so well at this game, giving her cash under the table.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

What is happening, Lisa? I thought we had a girl code and she shattered that last week.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Just my respect and adoration comes down to that week after week. Okay, don't discount him, David.

[Emily Wilson - Professor of Classical Studies]

Let's get to it.

[Quiz Host]

We are talking about the pointed news quiz, everybody. This is the part everybody's waiting for. Okay, so for those of you at home, you're like, what is this game? Okay, here's what happens. You can play it too at home if you want.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Now pay attention because she might change the rules again.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

She might change the rules.

[Quiz Host]

There will be three categories, okay? David and Christina each have 30 chips in front of them. They will place their bets on each category, depending on how they feel. You know, maybe they feel more confident about the first or maybe not so much the second. We'll see. Are you ready for your three categories? Born ready before you place your bets. Okay, here are your categories. First off is Birds. Second is Frequent Flyers. And third is World Records.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

Did you read a Birds this week?

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

I've read no stories this week, which is part of my strategy going forward here.

[Quiz Host]

So are you going 30, you know, across the board?

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

10 across the board. Because birds could be frequent fliers.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

I'm also gonna true. Lord help us from David Gura. Puns today. I did do 10 o' clock as well.

[Quiz Host]

All right, they have placed their bets. Let's go on to the first question. Here we go.

[Dr. Amish Adalja - Infectious Disease Expert]

Birds.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

Lisa.

[Quiz Host]

Chinese exports are surging for what type of bird used in a popular dish. Now, this is despite local demand kind of being soft. So Chinese exports surging for what kind of bird used in a popular dish. What bird is used in a popular dish from China anytime now.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

David Gura.

[Quiz Host]

He's writing duck. He even drew a picture for those

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

of you who don't.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Duck.

[Quiz Host]

Duck is correct.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

Yay.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Well, that's good for us.

[Quiz Host]

More specifically, Peking Duck. But I'll give it to you. Okay, there we go.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Soft demand. Why is demand soft?

[Quiz Host]

I've tried it, and I'm not a big fan. I don't.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

But crispy skin.

[Quiz Host]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

I think it's hard to prepare. They have to do it, like, really well.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

It's my place, very close to us here.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

So why is. Why are the exports up?

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Get us back. Get us back.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

Focusing on focusing us back down to

[Quiz Host]

get us back on track.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Why are they soft?

[Quiz Host]

Soft In. In the country. They just don't soft demand in the country. They just don't. Not so much. I mean, they have it all the time.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

All right, all right. They're trying to export it.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

Getting more popular abroad.

[Quiz Host]

Trying to get more popular.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Okay.

[Quiz Host]

There we go. We're moving on to frequent flyers.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

My energy is low. Doug's put that up there.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

I was thinking about that.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

Duck.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Ducks to frequent Flyers.

[Quiz Host]

Here we go. What public figure has flown 57,000 miles since June in a Gulfstream private jet? Enough to circle the equator twice. See, I know you know who it is, but what is the name of. What is this person?

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

Person's name.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Wait, okay, that's cryptic.

[Quiz Host]

What public figure.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

Now I'm confused.

[Quiz Host]

What public figure? What is his name?

[Dr. Amish Adalja - Infectious Disease Expert]

He's flown.

[Quiz Host]

Well, that takes that answer 57,000 miles since June. Since June in the Gulf Stream.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

What's been since June, I wonder.

[Quiz Host]

Yeah, I wonder. David Garrett.

[Jeff Mason - White House Correspondent]

I don't know.

[Quiz Host]

A lot's been happening since June.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Mentioned on the show as well as sport. Maybe paying attention to the chat in weeks beyond.

[Quiz Host]

I don't know.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

I'm ready. Are you?

[Quiz Host]

I don't know. Okay, flip it. What do you got?

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Gianni Infantino.

[Quiz Host]

Yes.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Taylor Swift.

[Quiz Host]

You put close.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

Hey, yeah, I wrote Taylor Swift. But then you said it was a guy.

[Quiz Host]

Yes, yes. So the president of FIFA. Yes, he is the one. I mean, you have the expanded World cup, right? There's now 48 teams.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Excuse my reach.

[Quiz Host]

Thanks. I get her chips. Okay. Sorry, but listen to this travel schedule. Okay? June 26, he went from Miami to Dallas. Dallas to the Seattle. Seattle to Miami. Because he has to watch all these games, most of them.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

So it's a tough schedule to transplant, I should say. He's paying for it.

[Quiz Host]

No, no, no. Yeah. The estimated cost for jet fuel, $350,000. That is a price tag.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

Quite the carbon footprint. That as well.

[Quiz Host]

Number three. You ready? World records.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

Please continue my suffering. Lisa.

[Quiz Host]

Okay, I did this story, so I want to make sure you guys were listening when I did it. Runner Josh Kerr. He broke the world record for fastest mile. Okay. Which Berkshire Hathaway owned. Brand. Designed his shoe.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Such a good question.

[Quiz Host]

Sneaker Brand. Think about it. Sneaker brand. Running.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

Always.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

The moral here is always listen to Lisa Mateo. Pay attention.

[Quiz Host]

I can't.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

Remember we talked about this.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Pulling back the curtain. You know, we're always trying to get ready for the next segment, listening to what the director has to say. Always.

[Quiz Host]

Christina. Yes. He also was wearing a speed suit.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Special suit.

[Quiz Host]

Yeah, special suit.

[Dr. Amish Adalja - Infectious Disease Expert]

Incredible suit.

[IBM Representative]

From.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

See him shave those thousandths of a second off his tongue.

[Quiz Host]

I mean, every. Every second count.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

I don't know if, like it's not swimming. I don't know how much the speed suit is gonna make a difference.

[Quiz Host]

Well, three hours, 42 minutes and 66 seconds. That's exactly what it is.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

Maybe we can speed up this.

[Quiz Host]

Let's hit the bonus because, Christina, you can win these.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

Do I get all of my points?

[Quiz Host]

You get all them back. Ok. The bonus is New Jersey. Okay? That's the category. James Patton was sentenced to 20 months, 21 months in prison after he inflated sales from $20,000 to $100 million. For what type of New Jersey small business. Think about it. New Jersey small business. What type of. Of New Jersey small business.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Okay, interesting.

[Quiz Host]

All right.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

I really have no idea on this front.

[Quiz Host]

Oh, you don't?

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Oh, New Jersey.

[Quiz Host]

You wrote so fast.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Okay, I wrote lawn care, trash collection.

[Quiz Host]

No, it's deli, deli, deli, restaurant, deli. Remember the story next week.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

Do you see that? Condescending. For our radio listeners, there's a very condescending conciliation received.

[Podcast Host - Lisa Mateo]

Always listen to Lisa Mateo. You can test your knowledge on all 10 questions. You can take the pointed news [e-mail] pointed you can find it on the Bloomberg Business App.

[Podcast Host - Christina Raffini]

Thanks for joining us on today's Bloomberg this Weekend podcast. Don't forget to tune in live for the show every Saturday and Sunday morning starting at 7am Eastern.

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