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Christina Raffini
for today's selection of conversations from the
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David Gura
show you can listen to our favorite discussions right here on the podcast but also make sure to join us live every saturday and sunday morning starting at seven am eastern we're on bloomberg television
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Lisa Mateo
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David Gura
the uk is announcing it will deploy one of its warships to the middle east for a european led mission to escort ships through the strait of moves once there is a stable cease fire in place this coming as dramatic new pictures from centcom released overnight show flames and large plumes of smoke after a us fighter jet disabled two iran flagged tankers which it says were violating the us blockade of iran imports president donald trump
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Christina Raffini
has warned america could escalate its military posture in the strait as iran weighs a new proposal from the us to end the war back with us now is bloomberg news white house correspondent jeff mason jeff where do you think this stands on this do we have any updates on whether each side has gotten a response from the other and is there a fear that the president will be leaving this conflict without fully securing the strait i guess that's good news for the president he's likely to be happy that news from the uk that they are sending some resources down there but where does this leave the strait overall if the us doesn't fully secure it before and trying to end this
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Jeff Mason
conflict well the uk angle is definitely interesting given the pressure that president trump has put on the uk prime minister and the very really positive state visit that he had from king charles but to your initial question christina still no updates on whether or not iran has responded yet to the latest offer from the united states and in addition to the broad question that you asked about whether that may lead to the president leaving this conflict without a few major things resolved including the strait of hormuz and whether or not iran has the ability to create a nuclear weapon in the short term those are more longer term issues in the short term it also raises a question of where will the conflict stand as he leads leaves this country on tuesday for china the president has a big trip to beijing next week and this issue is hanging over that visit in the same way that it's hung over a lot of the president's relationships with other countries and
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David Gura
other leaders around the world jeff let's talk a bit about that visit i know you're going to be on the plane with the president heading over there for that summit this is one that was postponed i think it was supposed to take place back in march of course was postponed because of the start of this war it hasn't ended in bloomberg reporting this week there's some unease or dissatisfaction among the chinese that this conflict is still roiling in the middle east while this summit is going to going to take place we spoke with ambassador nicholas burns who is president biden's ambassador to china talked to gary gensler the former head of the sec about the work that they did during the previous administration to kind of reintegrate ties with china what are the broad objectives that president trump has going into that meeting aside from just sitting down face to face and i guess keeping alive that human connection between the leaders of the two largest economies in the world
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Jeff Mason
well that last one that you said is actually a pretty big pretty big one just keeping the relationship open keeping the ties and conversations going but there certainly are some other ideas or other hopes that the president wants to achieve during that trip including perhaps extending a trace a trade truce that has been in place for a little bit between china and the united states talking about tariffs on both sides also talking about fentanyl the president has pressed china to reduce the amount of fentanyl that is coming out of its country and into the united states that's something that they had previously agreed on but that the united states does not feel china is really following up on but then to circle back to the perennial topic of iran that is no doubt also likely to come up when the two leaders meet in beijing in part because as you rightly said beijing is not happy that this war is going on beijing is a big client of iran for iranian oil that on the other hand has created tensions between china and the united states because the us is upset that they're taking that oil and sort of undercutting the blockade that the united states is putting on iranian ports to try to squeeze iran's economy to push them not just to come to the table but to agree to a peace
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David Gura
deal christine i want to pick up on this because we were talking with ambassador burns about this obviously the meeting that took place between the foreign minister of china and iran but something else that the ambassador said stood stood out to me and that is he sees this as the beginning of a sequence of meetings that we're going to see here and indeed during the biden administration
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Christina Raffini
there were three bullish on this yeah
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Jeff Mason
so i continue no no no and
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David Gura
i thought that was so fascinating we're focused on this meeting taking place but he seemed quite optimistic this would lead to additional summits here down the road anyways just wanted to note that jeff
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Christina Raffini
i mean what is your take is there a plan for more after this or they have to see how well this one this one goes and then of course before we let you go the other lingering issue is taiwan and whether or not the president will be more willing to be pushed on taiwan or even just not seeing stating strongly us support for taiwan could be taken as a signal by the chinese absolutely
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Jeff Mason
so to those two points number one yes there are more meetings planned this year between president xi and president trump and i heard at least some former officials say that's one reason why the list of deliverables which is very washington speak is not super high for this summit in part because they have to leave some for other meetings later in the year that's another reason why this one wasn't delayed i was told in part because of the calendar if they delay this one on one meeting it doesn't leave a whole lot of room for the other three two or three meetings that are expected between the two leaders later this year at summits and perhaps a xi visit or visit by president xi to the united states to your last question on taiwan that is absolutely also hanging in the air over this visit there are some former government officials who said who i've heard say in the last week as i was preparing for this trip they're concerned that president trump is in a mood or in a position to really soften the us take on taiwan and that president xi is going to try to use this opportunity to get him to soften that perhaps get him to say something or commit to delivering fewer arms from the united states to taiwan and that that would potentially dramatically change the position of the united states in taiwan and change that whole relationship with china it's definitely something that president xi wants to
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Christina Raffini
see all right jeff mason traveling with the president today our white house correspondent thank you as always for joining us
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David Gura
to another major story now health experts across the globe tracking down and monitoring passengers who were on board a cruise ship hit by hantavirus right now the ship is off the coast of west africa set to dock early tomorrow morning there are seventeen americans on board that
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Christina Raffini
vessel that's right the centers for disease control and prevention has sent a team to meet them after six cases have been confirmed with two more probables that includes three people who died now once passengers get on dry land those americans will be flown to nebraska for quarantine the individuals that are coming thus far have not been diagnosed with hantavirus but should they develop symptoms and concerning for that diagnosis we will definitely assess them and care for them in the biocontainment unit joining us now is the former covid response coordinator under president biden doctor ashish jha doctor first of all i want to ask a dumb question and that is is it hantavirus or hantavirus
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Daniel Dae Kim
i've been wrestling with this all morning
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Christina Raffini
we have differing opinions on this and then i also i grew up with this out west i know david you spent some time there as a kid i didn't think it spread like this so how do we say it and how does it spread and how dangerous
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Dr. Ashish Jha
is it all right three great questions good morning and thanks for having me here i've always called it hantavirus that's what i was taught when i was in medical school let's go with hanta most strains of hantavirus are spread from rodents to humans and they don't spread from human to human there's one strain that is an exception to that and that's the andi strain and unfortunately that's what we have on the cruise ship so far it's a pretty dangerous virus and so if you grew up in the american southwest new mexico arizona you've probably heard of hantavirus usually get it from rodent droppings getting aerosolized and you breathe it in thirty forty percent mortality rate maybe even higher so it's a pretty dangerous virus thankfully we have not seen large outbreaks in the past but this one is different partly because it's the wrong strain or it's a bad strain the one that spreads and it's ended up being on a cruise ship which is a pretty good petri dish for a lot of viruses spreading my
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David Gura
turn now for a two part question the first is nebraska why nebraska i remember this being a facility that was used during the ebola outbreak i think maybe during the early days of COVID as well so that's my first part the second is what will happen to these patients when they get there what does this quarantine look like in practice
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Dr. Ashish Jha
yeah two good questions so nebraska we have these special pathogen units across the us university of nebraska medical center has got one of the best ones in the country i'd argue one of the best in the world the most dangerous pathogens people who might be infected with them can go there they've got fantastic safety protocols some of the best clinicians in the world on these topics so that's why nebraska that's why our ebola patients went there and that's why it's a good place for these folks to go look i don't think do i think they need that i don't i think they're doing it out of an abundance of caution i think that's totally reasonable what's going to happen is they're going to be monitored very closely what we know about hantavirus in the one strain that spreads from people to people is usually only spreads when people have symptoms so you could make the case that if they're feeling great they don't have to be in a place like this but again i think out of caution they're going to watch them very closely obviously if any of them develop symptoms they're going to need to get tested and treated but that's going to
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Christina Raffini
be the plan i'm surprised how quickly this has gotten into people's minds possibly because you know we're all still a little scarred from COVID actually the new york times writes about COVID ptsd and how this is a lingering legacy i was walking down the street in new york and some woman on the phone young woman said you know i really just want to go meet my friends before the hantavirus takes us all this this was yesterday here but it is it is serious it sounds like it's unlikely to cause a huge outbreak at least immediately but if you are getting symptoms what do those look like and how quickly do they progress what should you be on the lookout for yeah
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Dr. Ashish Jha
and i want to just reiterate i think the chances that this is somehow going to become a big global outbreak is exceedingly low it's just i don't think it's going to happen now let's talk about symptoms the problem with with this virus like most viruses they all start off about the same way a fever a head headache you know just feeling lousy by the way that's like you know we all have symptoms like that when we get viral syndromes it then progresses pretty rapidly there are two forms there's a pulmonary form where you get very severely short of breath it really infects your lungs and you can get very sick that way there's another form where you get much more in the abdominal pain infects your vessels and you can get very sick and die in that other way so starts off pretty much like most viral syndromes and then it can progress pretty quickly after
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David Gura
that asking about the vaccine for this so bloomberg reporting moderna has done some early stage work on the vaccine for hunter viruses in the us it's working with the vaccine information center at korea university college of medicine on a potential immunization what's the status of the development of immunization for this is that something we should be looking for in your estimation here in short order yeah so
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Dr. Ashish Jha
look the mrna platform is awesome and obviously we used it during COVID to get vaccines out to the american people very very rapidly as you probably know secretary kennedy is not a fan and therefore he's block the development of mrna vaccines here in the united states i think by the way completely irrationally there's no logic for that so now companies like moderna and european companies are working with other countries in terms of the hantavirus vaccine it's still pretty early stage eventually we need to go through kind of large clinical trials there aren't that many people getting infected with this so you're not going to see those trials so it's not anywhere near primetime but the good news is i don't think we need it right now i mean we should develop it obviously if it becomes a bigger outbreak we should study it much more closely but for most people this is not going to be an issue we're not going to be getting hantavirus vaccines anytime soon since we
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Christina Raffini
have you i do want to ask you there's some reporting from the wall street journal that president trump has signed off on a plan to fire the fda commissioner after policy fights about vaping the abortion pills and other issues he was actually asked about it last night we've got some sound for you what's
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Congressman Ro Khanna
going on with marty mccarry nothing much
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Lisa Mateo
are you going to fire him i've
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Congressman Ro Khanna
been reading about it but i know
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Christina Raffini
nothing about it so trump saying asks what he knows he says he doesn't you know is he gonna do it he says he knows nothing about it what is your take on this and the state of play at the fda right now how well it's functioning and morale inside that agency yeah that's a
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Dr. Ashish Jha
great question obviously i don't know exactly what's happening in terms of doctor macri's status there's all this confusion i've been reading the same stuff that everybody else has in terms of the fda i mean i think what i would say is i actually was a pretty big fan marty i have been for a long time of him getting nominated i think he has tried to do a good job i think he's made some missteps and it's been complicated because there's a lot of political pressure from his boss the secretary of hhs to do certain things that i think a typical fda commissioner would not face from a typical secretary of hhs so i think marty's had a hard job and you know and i as i said i think he's been he's very qualified to do this how this plays out i don't know but the fda is struggling because they've lost a ton of staff they've been doged and that has meant some of their best scientists have left marty's been managing a pretty pretty difficult agency that's under a lot of stress because of some of those moves
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David Gura
stay with us for more on bloomberg this weekend right after this
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David Gura
well president trump is expected to meet with president xi in beijing later this week as we've been talking about over the course of the morning that summit had been postponed because of the war in iran and you can guess the conflict will be high on the agenda when the heads of the world's two largest economies meet they're also going to talk about trade issues artificial intelligence and fentanyl our next guest is
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Christina Raffini
the ranking member of the house select committee on the strategic competition between the us and chinese communist party congressman ro khanna joins us this morning from maplewood ohio ohio where he's leading a three day heartland tour visiting farms and factories we want to get to that trip we also want to get to the president's trip to china but first thank you for joining us and i do want to ask you about that testimony on wednesday with howard lutnick you said regarding his connections to epstein he made a quote farce of the english language and that trump would fire him if he heard what he said and i wanted to ask you are you sure about that are you sure you think the president would fire him if he knew what he said
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Congressman Ro Khanna
i am because the president would see him sweating and mumbling and struggling to answer very basic questions i mean howard lutnick's testimony was that when he told the nation that he would never visit epstein after two thousand five that what he meant was that he himself would never visit epstein but it was fine for him his wife and his kid to visit epstein's island that just makes no sense anyone listening to it would know he was lying and he was not honest that that's the real issue i want to
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David Gura
ask about the epstein transparency act and where we are in this process so a signal moment having the commerce secretary up on capitol hill testifying before the oversight committee there was a lot of commentary early on that the justice department hadn't upheld its obligations to that act have they since are you satisfied with what you've gotten from the justice department and indeed where does this investigation in part helmed by the oversight committee go from here
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Congressman Ro Khanna
well it's been the largest release of documents over decades three million files released and they have shown an epstein class that feels like they don't need to live by the rules that treats these women as dispensable but there's still three million files that need to be released and the biggest thing that survivors tell me is they want to see investigations and prosecutions there are people who abuse them rape them or traffic them in these files and there haven't been any investigations or prosecutions so we need the release of the remaining files and we need investigations and prosecutions i
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Christina Raffini
was also wondering and stick with me here it is a bit of an odd question but i wonder if you have any insight into why melania trump seemingly out of nowhere made that odd and rare public appearance in april denying any connection with epstein and calling for congress to bring survivors forward to testify do you know what prompted that i
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Congressman Ro Khanna
don't but i actually welcomed it because unlike her husband who's calling these survivors a hoax first lady trump is saying that they deserve to be heard first lady trump is saying that there should be investigations and prosecutions and the most important thing she said is epstein was not alone she knows that there were other men involved in abusing trafficking raping these young girls and she is saying there needs to be an investigation there needs to be prosecution and she's contradicting her own husband so what i would ask for the first lady is to say call on the justice department to release the remaining files and call on them to begin investigations and prosecutions congressman
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David Gura
khanna as we mentioned this trip is coming up this week this postponed trip the president's taking to beijing to meet with president xi you're the ranking member of this committee on china and i'm curious of how you see the importance of this visit and indeed what you hope will come out of it what is a good outcome in your estimation of this trip where the leaders of the two largest economies in the world
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Congressman Ro Khanna
are going to be well i've been in pennsylvania and ohio and michigan talking to our farmers talking to our factory workers let me offer four things we need to do first we need to get a deal for china to buy more of our soybeans the farmers have been hurt they're buying now from argentina they're buying from south america they're not buying from our farmers second we need to make sure that they're not sending their ships to our ports without a fee we suspended this fee and china's using their ships in our ports that are hurting american shipbuilding third we need to find some a way to lower the cost of fertilizer it's really hurting a lot of our farmers it's hurting a lot of the food prices in the united states that means getting them not to have export controls on that and that means figuring out how we open up the strata for moose and finally we need to make sure that they are not dumping into the united states they continue to have unfair trade practices and we need to clamp down
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Christina Raffini
on that historically the chinese have been very adept and very tenacious negotiators especially when it comes to matters of the economy we've been talking this morning about how the treasury secretary has laid the groundwork and established a relationship with his counterpart in beijing but i'm wondering if you think this administration if you think president trump is ready to go toe to toe with the chinese it's he can get successfully the things you were all just talking about out of these negotiations
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Congressman Ro Khanna
well he hasn't shown that ability so far obviously i'm rooting for him because he's the american president but we've lost eighty thousand manufacturing jobs on his watch we've seen three hundred sixteen farm bankruptcies on his watch compared to two hundred fifteen the year president biden was in office we've seen the trade deficit for the united states actually increase we've seen the cost of inputs increase because of blanket tariffs so he has a lot that he has to reverse and we've had china hold us hostage on rare earths and critical minerals i want a deal that actually helps american farmers american shipbuilders american manufacturers and i hope he will work to get that he hasn't so far part of that committee's
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David Gura
remit as i understand it is to look at this balance of power this level of competition between the us and china and i'm curious how you see that dynamic at play right now so we had just a few days ago iran's foreign minister going to beijing to meet with china's foreign minister it's clear that china by not getting actively involved in this conflict in the middle east is positioned shall we say differently from from the us right now and perhaps that's something i think advantageous to the chinese leadership it's not a war that's draining resources from them sure they'd like to have the energy that stalled in the strait of hormuz how do you see that competitive dynamic and how worried are you about the degree to which the us the administration is paying attention to to that that that binary between the us and china
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Congressman Ro Khanna
well i'm concerned that we're draining our resources in a war in iran we haven't been able to get their enriched uranium out iran's regime is more hardline with the irgc having more control iran has more control over the strait of hormuz it's cost us billions of dollars and it's increased our food prices and china basically is just watching from the sideline they're not sinking that money into the middle east they're sinking that money into building their ships into building alternative energy renewable energy into building their economy so what i want is for the united states to be putting our resources in investing in manufacturing here at home jobs here at home research and innovation here at home and not getting sucked into the middle east that's a drain of our resources
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Christina Raffini
congressman i do want to ask you a more armed services question and that's there's this report in the washington post about us intelligence analyzing the data and saying that iran is is situated to last at least three or four more months of this blockade before really feeling the economic pressure when it comes to to a war of attrition if you're looking at iran versus the us versus even china how long they're willing to sit this out do you think the american public and people real people who you've been talking to in the midwest are going to give the president the benefit of the doubt for this conflict for three to four more months given what it's doing to prices of almost everything
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Congressman Ro Khanna
no it's because we're spending a billion to two billion dollars a day but that's not just the cost i mean when i asked pete hegsett what's the cost he said it's a gotcha question but pete hex said may want to to ohio and michigan and pennsylvania because the cost is the increased cost of gas the cost is the increased cost of diesel the cost is the increased cost of fertilizer all of that means increased costs for americans when it comes to food when it comes to their rent when it comes to filling up their tanks this summer and that's not worth in iran that is more hardline and that still has enriched uranium so we haven't achieved anything and we've created enormous economic hardship on the american people we need to end this war we need negotiation that opens the strait of hormuz allows gas allows diesel allows fertilizers prices to fall how blind are
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David Gura
you other lawmakers flying right now i guess it's no small thing that the defense secretary did make his way to capitol hill to answer some questions not all of them but at least at least you know i think when we first heard about the funding request the administration was making there was some speculation that lawmakers would welcome that as an opportunity to kind of use that to get secretary hegseth and others on the hill to answer questions about this conflict about the trajectory of this war how much confidence do you have in your understanding of what the administration wants to do and where this war is headed
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Congressman Ro Khanna
the administration doesn't have a clear strategic goal first they said they wanted regime change now they acknowledge that that the regime that's in place is actually more hardline than khamenei then they said they wanted the nuclear energy out and for iran to be denuclear now they acknowledge that enriched uranium is still buried under iran's soil then they said well they want the strait of hormuz to be open well the strait of hormuz was open before this war so now we have to figure out how do we get the strait of hormuz open there is no strategic goal the strategic goal right now should be the immediate opening of the strait of hormuz the end to these hostilities not shooting at each other so that the price of food and the price of gas can drop and then negotiation with the international community to get iran to commit on getting enriched uranium out and inspections something obama had achieved that trump tore up the
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Christina Raffini
president has been very frustrated with european allies who've so far been unwilling to engage directly in either helping with the blockade or helping american action in the region part of the repercussions of that are he has now threatened to take a significant number of troops out of germany after the chancellor had some harsh words about trump and saying he was getting played by the iranians are you concerned that that will really happen and at what level do you worry it will impact american operational ability because those are big bases the us relies on them for a heck of a lot of stuff in that theater why why is he doing this and are you concerned it's going to impact military readiness
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Congressman Ro Khanna
well i'm concerned that he's doing it in a retaliatory way if he wants to look at lessening our footprint on our eight hundred bases overseas to reduce cost that's a separate conversation but he shouldn't be threatening the german chancellor with our troop presence in germany because the german chancellor doesn't want to engage in a blockade that isn't being effective in the strait of hormuz what we need to do is bring all along our european allies like president obama did to put pressure on iran to have a deal that forces them to submit to inspection and give up their enriched uranium obviously the military option didn't work yes the military destroyed iran's navy yes it destroyed iran's air force that may weaken them regionally but it did nothing in terms of getting them the enriched uranium out and for that we need our european allies nato and diplomacy let me
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David Gura
pivot from the shooting war in the middle east shooting war in europe to the political war here in the united states over congressional districts and as i said you are uniquely positioned you're on armed services oversight the china committee you're also from the great state of california which is wrestling with some of these issues having to do with congressional districts i'm curious what your reaction is to what we've seen in recent weeks out of virginia the virginia supreme court ruling that the redrawn districts that were passed by voters there is not does not comport with the state's constitution obviously a setback for democrats we saw the ruling from the supreme court on the voting rights act where do you see this war that political war heading as we see republicans and democrats going back and forth on the way those congressional districts are drawn
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Congressman Ro Khanna
well the virginia decision was overruling virginia voters i mean virginia voters just voted on maps and for the virginia supreme court to invalidate an election is deeply anti democratic and then for the us supreme court to gut voting rights in the deep south to not understand that there's racially polarized voting in the deep south is completely out of touch and undermining the efforts of the civil rights movement i mean they're going after jim clyburn's district there was not a black member in congress in south carolina for one hundred years between reconstruction and jim crow jim clyburn won that scene in nineteen ninety two because they drew a black majority district and they're trying to eliminate that they're trying to eliminate the work of the voting rights and civil rights movement eliminating black majority districts in the south it's deeply concerning and not on a political level just on a level of anyone who cares about civil rights and black representation in
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Christina Raffini
america so what are you going to do about this what are democrats going to do and at this point is this a map democrats can reasonably win and hope to flip either of these bodies in november we're going to win
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Congressman Ro Khanna
the house the will win despite all of these games my concern is what is this doing in terms of our civil rights representation i would encourage people to watch jaime harrison's passionate defense of black majority districts in south carolina and beyond when he spoke at the south carolina legislative session and i do believe that we can convince in some of these legislators not to do what they're thinking of doing eliminating black districts it's not right for the country and it may actually backfire on them creating more democratic districts in the process so as they eliminate black districts they may actually be creating more democratic opportunities so we're going to be fighting in each one of these states to make sure that they don't eliminate these districts what do
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David Gura
you say to the viewer of bloomberg television the listener to bloomberg radio he sees the gentleman from fremont california in maplewood ohio wonders if this gentleman has higher aspirations than representing a congressional district in california and if you're demure on answering that directly what does the democratic party need to know from the places that you've been spending the last three
- [34:04]
Congressman Ro Khanna
days visiting i'm here in my capacity as the top democrat on the china select committee and i'm here with colleagues from michigan from pennsylvania from ohio but what i would say is the democratic party needs to spend more time in places in rural america on farms in factory towns and then understand that they're upset they're upset with both parties they've seen manufacturing job loss they've seen the prices increase they've seen wealth pile up in districts like mine in silicon valley while the american dream seems farther out of reach here and we need to offer a vision i call it economic patriotism a new industrial bank that invests in communities a thousand new trade schools a new sense of tech institutes across america a trade agenda that actually opens up foreign markets for our farmers so we need to offer an economic agenda
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Christina Raffini
for the future so you're exploring running for president
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Congressman Ro Khanna
well right now i'm exploring what the agenda for the china committee and house democrats should be but i do believe whoever runs to represent our party and our nation should have a comprehensive economic agenda for the future i think that's the central issue how are we going to improve the lives of americans in many of these places that were hollowed out after nafta hollowed out after china came into the world trade organization what is our vision for bringing them back for having economic security and economic independence congressman khanna thank you very
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David Gura
much for being so generous with your time again joining us from maplewood ohio this morning on his tour of heartland states he heads to michigan this afternoon very much appreciate the time and you engaging on all of these important issues christina again he sits on so many important committees and is in such a unique position to talk about so much of what we've been discussing over the course of the morning in the last few weeks
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Christina Raffini
stay with us for more on bloomberg this weekend right after this
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many men mental health challenges aren't recognized until they've already taken a toll work pressure financial stress changing relationships and traditional expectations expectations around masculinity can quietly wear men down often without clear warning signs in season three of the visibility gap doctor guy winch and his guests explore how these pressures show up how to spot them earlier and how men can access meaningful support listen to the new season of the visibility gap a podcast presented by cigna healthcare
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David Gura
from film to television to music even food and health and beauty korean culture is seeing a surge in popularity in america and around
- [38:17]
Christina Raffini
the world a new cnn series premiering tonight starring daniel dae kim captures this k pop phenomenon here's a preview where are we going taehyung i don't know
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Daniel Dae Kim
but wherever we're going i want to be wearing this hat whoa i have to say it's one of the cleanest factories i've ever seen in korea you're the first person to discover this can we see
- [38:48]
Christina Raffini
wow
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Daniel Dae Kim
hi guys it's just a lot of them it is a
- [38:58]
Christina Raffini
lot the host and executive producer of k everything and apparently snail aficionado daniel dae kim is with us now thank you for being here for our radio listeners please describe what we were just seeing on the screen so what you
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Daniel Dae Kim
saw were what are called king snails and they are used to produce for their snail mucin which is the trail that they leave behind as they walk places and that mucin is now used in cosmetic products and we went to the factory where this mucin is harvested from these king's nails i have to
- [39:34]
Christina Raffini
tell you i've used that product i kind of thought it was a synthetic facsimile i didn't realize it was really
- [39:39]
Daniel Dae Kim
from the actual the literal thing and so i actually had the privilege of having the snails on my hand and they're crawling around they're big i mean for the audio listeners they're like a good four inches long so they're really big but i will tell you that that after i took the snail off my hand and my hand had dried it was noticeably softer really it really was and so you know i'm proof that this stuff actually has an effect
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David Gura
tell us about the genesis of this show why did you decide to go and make it to focus on korean
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Daniel Dae Kim
culture well you know i've been noticing you know how prominent korean culture has become over the last ten or fifteen years in like areas like like drama which is something i'm close to i've been watching you know movies like parasite win the oscar squid game becoming netflix most watched tv show k pop demon hunters becoming netflix's most watched movie so you know it it was staring me in the face and then i realized not only is it you know drama but it's food it's beauty it's music of course everyone knows k pop and so we i thought it was a perfect time to kind of showcase this culture to the world did you not
- [40:52]
Christina Raffini
have enough jobs you needed to come do my job you're an actor you're producer now you're now you're doing our job i was watching this last night i was like getting aggressively jealous because you talked to so many fun people one of my favorite segments was in the episode we got on k beauty you go to explain it's like when you do your resume in korea it mostly a lot of times includes a photo and you who you know i've known you forever so i don't like to give you compliments but you know other people find you to be a very attractive man the amount of photoshopping they did on your face to make it acceptable for a resume is terrifying and this is like a standard thing
- [41:26]
Daniel Dae Kim
it is well it's no longer required but for a while employers were requiring a photo to go along with your resume and so koreans you know would start to stretch the boundaries of what they actually look like so you can go to these photo booth places and you can ask for levels of retouching and one is like k pop goddess and what they do is they'll retouch not only your skin but they'll make your eyes symmetrical they'll change your jawline subtly they'll fix a crooked smile whiten your teeth but it's not so drastic that it's not you but they call it the best version of you
- [42:11]
David Gura
you make this series and i imagine you're wrestling with with why korean culture seems to be so resonant globally and so resonant at this moment what's your thinking
- [42:19]
Daniel Dae Kim
on that it's a good question you know korea came from a war torn poverty stricken nation just a few generations ago to one of the most modern civilizations in the world and i think it has something to do with the competitive nature and the pride of the korean people and both those things are positives and negative so one of the things i did at the end of every interview was ask the interview subjects what are five words you would use to describe the korean society and every one of them said competitive is that right yeah and so that competitive nature that drive actually propels them to succeed in areas in such a short compressed time and at the same time it can make it difficult at times to live there if you're falling behind or perceived to be falling behind so talk
- [43:10]
Christina Raffini
us through the other episodes that you did one on k pop you did one on k beauty what's the breadth of it and what was your favorite
- [43:17]
Daniel Dae Kim
one they were all pretty cool but i have to say like because i'm a stranger in a strange land when it comes to k beauty that was the one that i think i had the most fun with i actually went to a very well known dermatologist in seoul and underwent a procedure where she injected injected salmon sperm into my face
- [43:35]
David Gura
salmon sperm sure sure how was that
- [43:38]
Daniel Dae Kim
it was actually interesting like i'd heard horror stories about people doing laser treatments and like they do them and you can't be seen for weeks because you look like a zombie but korea's techniques are so advanced that they give you the treatments and you can go about your business as soon as you're finished and they're relatively painless and and they're quick and they're more affordable yeah that's the thing they're super cheap relative to the united states and so you know beauty cosmetics tourism is actually on the rise there there's this one region where or one part of the city where all the plastic surgery clinics are and you walk down the street and sometimes you look like you're on the set of walking dead because everyone's in like bandages as they're walking down the street and sitting in cafes it's very surreal
- [44:30]
David Gura
you opened the door to us talking about the economics of all of this i'd love to get into that a little bit as well yes there's the massive cultural resonance that we've seen but this is a huge business korean culture the export of korean culture is a
- [44:41]
Dr. Ashish Jha
huge business worldwide yeah it's a huge
- [44:43]
Daniel Dae Kim
business and it's government supported there are initiatives on behalf of the government to introduce korean food to the world we get into that a little bit into the series and they've embraced k pop in such a way that their active ambassadors for korea you know and anyone who's a prominent figure in global in the global spotlight is honored there is encouraged by the government not in such a way that it's like like a communist country but it is it is they're celebrated and they take a lot of pride in those who succeeded stay
- [45:17]
Lisa Mateo
with us for more on bloomberg this weekend right after this
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for many men mental health challenges aren't recognized until they've already taken a toll work pressure financial stress changing relationships and traditional expectations around masculinity can quietly wear men down often without clear warning signs in season three of the visibility gap doctor guy winch and his guests explore how these pressures show up how to spot them earlier and how men can access access meaningful support listen to the new season of the visibility gap a podcast presented by cigna healthcare
- [47:50]
Lisa Mateo
welcome back
- [47:51]
Christina Raffini
to bloomberg this weekend or btw wow as i'm constantly bullied ten weeks in
- [47:56]
David Gura
and we're making progress i'm christina rafini david guerrero alongside lisa mateo this is the moment in the show and lisa shows us all that she has surfaced over the course of the week stories yes we you may have missed lisa
- [48:08]
Lisa Mateo
did not miss may have missed it i did not okay so let's get to the first one this was actually on the bloomberg this is from bloomberg so it says travelers spend big by using astrology as a vacation planner what could go wrong here's the thing do you guys follow your signs i don't know you're not too into that okay a lot of people are on the no a lot of people are though apparently and a growing number they're turning to listen to this astrocartology okay so this is when they look at the position of the planets the moment of your birth so they're going to locate places in the world that align with achieving your goals okay so a lot of people like people considering a new chapter in their lives they want to move they're looking for love they're doing all these things they turn to these folks for some guidance you didn't do
- [48:52]
David Gura
this no when you moved to new
- [48:54]
Lisa Mateo
york you didn't decide it new job
- [48:55]
Christina Raffini
new chapter although i did once sit through a dinner where a woman unprompted brought a book asked everyone for their birthday and read for an hour and a half all of our rising sun
- [49:04]
David Gura
that's a good party trick i like
- [49:06]
Christina Raffini
that you can go next door ever
- [49:07]
Lisa Mateo
get your cards read nothing no i
- [49:09]
Christina Raffini
don't know i do have a tarot deck i do have a tarot deck i did a piece once on somebody i did a piece once on somebody who had a night really nice nice chill take on it and they gifted me one afterwards and it was a nice gift but i don't use it
- [49:21]
David Gura
regularly we digress people are using this
- [49:23]
Lisa Mateo
they're actually doing this they are they are because thirty percent of american adults say they turn to these horoscopes tarot cards like so more people are starting to do this so now they're turning to this new service and even corporations are hiring these people to bring them on because corporations you know they're taking on new ventures so they want to see if it's in the right location it's a you gotta read it interesting
- [49:44]
David Gura
read for those of you out there
- [49:47]
Christina Raffini
i'm send you a direct message we're gonna talk about this piece hannah okay
- [49:51]
Lisa Mateo
this next one is from the wall street journal okay this is about the boy bands okay so the boy band heyday may be over but the man band era has just begun okay so the boy bands that kind of we love when we were younger okay a lot of them are making big money now because where we check the people we're talking about new kids on the block backstreet boys right remember boys ii men new edition like all those things yes yes yes so they're men now in their forties and fifties they are
- [50:21]
Christina Raffini
they are they're not in their twenties
- [50:22]
Lisa Mateo
and thirties anymore but they're making money because the women who loved them back in the day now are older they have more money to spend so they're going to vegas to the shows they're going to with girlfriends they're doing girl trips my sister actually did one is that right she did i had a girlfriend i did not go it was her and a girlfriend they booked flights they went out to i forget where it was but they had an excellent time and they had such a phenomenal time but they are really really making money off of this guys i was a new kids on the block i gotta say that was my kind of thing yeah yeah yeah yeah and i had three younger sisters so it was always like who's your favorite who's your favorite so yeah girl in my neighborhood
- [51:02]
Christina Raffini
had eight new kids on the block
- [51:03]
Lisa Mateo
bedspread bedspread gosh but it's a thing it's a girl's thing vip tickets and everything you don't want to pass no
- [51:11]
David Gura
but if you guys want to go you let me know and i'll hold
- [51:14]
Christina Raffini
down the four at least for a
- [51:15]
Lisa Mateo
date we're gonna go that's true okay this one's from the new york times okay longevity right a lot of people are seeking it this is from the times it says the longevity secret's helping athletes blow past the limits of age okay so we're talking about athletes right they're extending their careers remember we talked about the winter olympics right two athletes over forty right won gold medals last season you had three forty plus quarterbacks who started nfl games and then of course there's lebron james right who's forty one his son is playing next to him little bronnie yes little bronnie so how they do it it's more like they're not just sitting in an ice bath i mean this is high tech gadgets a lot of data involved like all these sci fi tech gadgets and they're doing a lot of different things immortal chamber it's one hundred sixty thousand dollars it's a human charging station so some of these athletes are even buying those so they can kind of rejuvenate themselves because they want to extend their
- [52:10]
Christina Raffini
career how much of this is proven because i have friends who do a lot of this stuff some of it there's some research to back up but it's is this just is it placebo
- [52:19]
Lisa Mateo
effect for anything i mean they're saying that it's helping because they're skinning yeah the thing is that the athletes are making more money right so think about it they make more money they have more money to spend on a lot of these you know gadgets to kind of prolong their career so and you
- [52:35]
David Gura
know the career does end early relatively speaking it does but the rest of your life only so many play by play jobs that are available
- [52:44]
Lisa Mateo
all right i have this one one more from the washington post okay so this was an interesting study why sitting all day is so bad for you and what to do about it so we're sitting here right now yes and we you know we get up now and then to stand and stretch the back sitting is a new smoking that was like the thing remember that i was hearing that yeah not really okay so apparently the wall street washington post they asked the experts and they said how much is too much sitting so if you sit for eight to ten hours a day that's a little too much you can get up once in a while it's tied to higher risk of cancer right type two diabetes this is what the studies show depression things like that and the reason why is because when you sit your muscles are not working and it's affecting your metabolism at the same time so that's what they say your muscles are very important so you have to remember that when you're just doing that so that's why i have the standing desk yes i take your
- [53:37]
David Gura
kinesiological counsel all the time lisa i
- [53:39]
Christina Raffini
mean you are lisa is aggressively they have the happiest and healthiest member of
- [53:43]
David Gura
our team you aspire to do what you're doing so you do have a
- [53:45]
Lisa Mateo
stand up desk i have the stand up desk and then my watch actually tells me it goes off when i've
- [53:49]
Christina Raffini
been sitting for a few minutes does
- [53:50]
Lisa Mateo
it yell at you yes it does
- [53:52]
David Gura
it directs you to stand and it
- [53:53]
Lisa Mateo
tells me it's time to stand so
- [53:55]
Christina Raffini
yeah i have a dog yells at me i just use my dog he just yells at me me to get
- [53:59]
Lisa Mateo
up you got to take the walk
- [54:01]
David Gura
btw by the way bloomberg this weekend lisa mateo thank you thank you very much
- [54:09]
Christina Raffini
thanks for joining us on today's bloomberg this weekend podcast don't forget to tune in live for the show every saturday and sunday morning starting at seven
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David Gura
am eastern we're on bloomberg television radio and the bloomberg business app bringing you unique takes and in depth interviews on news politics lifestyle and culture
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Christina Raffini
if you
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