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Sa. Foreign. Welcome back to BNI and the Power of One podcast. Back with your show Submissions Questions Topics submitted@bni powerofone.com as always, you can go and leave yours there. More coming in, which is fantastic. Today we're hearing from Joseph in bni Northeast Mass. Newly formed region we're super excited to be working with. He says do you have ideas for starting a sphere that doesn't have any current representation in the chapter, for example, chapter that has a fantastic trade sphere but no one in the health sphere? It's seemingly more difficult to invite someone in which there aren't existing referral partners. This is a great question and, and you're correct, it's not more difficult to invite them, but their conversion may be less if they don't get that instant perception of value that having people in their context here would provide. There's still significant value in the chapter. There's still significant value in having people in general dedicated to wanting to find you referrals and helping you grow your business. So there's still value. But when you walk into a room and you can instantly identify professions that you know, should, and could easily pass you consistent referrals, there's instantly more value. Right? So you'll have less of an effect than if you have a really fantastic trade sphere and a profession that's in the trades that's not part of your chapter. You have visits, they're probably going to convert at a much higher rate or a lot quicker. So what is the strategy? And this becomes it's kind of two ways of looking at how to do visitor days. Okay, there's the one that we've talked about in our growth series. If you haven't listened to those, I highly recommend you do, where we essentially walk you through how your chapter can and frankly should double in a very short period of time by each member focusing and inviting selfishly. So that is what's the one profession you need in the chapter more than anything else that does not then help you in this scenario? Right? Because if I'm inviting for what I need, that means I'm inviting for my contact sphere, which means at least I exist in the chapter. If not multiple people in my contact sphere already exist in the chapter. Thus we're not going to really be inviting with that strategy for context spheres that don't exist. And that's okay for that kind of targeted, focused visitor day. Again, visitor days about being increasing your conversion opportunities. Right? That's what a visitor day is about. Too many chapters use visitor days as we're going to schedule a visitor day so you can all invite for the same day, but there's no strategy behind it. A small percentage of the members actually do any inviting for that. And yeah, you might get some visitors and you might get one or two members, but you miss the opportunity of really impactful, significant expansion. So that's what that growth series is all about. To your question, what I would then do is how do we get chapter specific focus visitor days? And that's where we go, hey, listen, we don't have a health sphere. We need to really develop a sphere in that industry and that focus because it's going to add diversity to the group and add additional opportunities for everybody. So you do a different type of visitor day. Not a stack day. I cannot stand stack days. I find them to be highly ineffective. A true visitor day where you take the same approach, but you can either a do. All right, each one of us is going to own a profession in the health sphere or even team up, depending on how many people are in your current chapter. So let's say there's 20 of us. We can team up in groups of two to four. And I would do two because you'll get bigger. But even if you wanted to do four where that team owns a profession in the health sphere. So if we do two of us, we're looking at adding potentially 10 professions from the health sphere. If it's groups of four, we're looking to add five professions from the health sphere. Okay, then those teams do the same exact thing that you do when it's individualized, when it's okay, I own getting XYZ profession in the chapter. I'm going to go find 20 XYZs in the 30 mile radius of my chapter and I'm going to invite all of them. You do the same thing. But now because it's an outside health sphere or outside their own context here, you can team up because you're not going to get 20 of them. So you team up and say, okay, the two of you pick. We're going to take massage and we're going to take chiropractor and we're going to take, you know, there's at least 10, if not 20 different health and wellness professions. So each team takes one and they do the same thing. We're going to. That team is now going to look for 20 people within a 30 mile radius that do that profession and that team is going to invite all of them. They'll split it up. So instead of me doing 20 phone calls for the profession I want, I'm going to do 10 chiropractor calls, and my teammate's going to do 10 chiropractor calls. With the goal of our team of two to bring four or five chiropractors to this meeting. And then we get four or five chiropractors. Even if nobody else does what they're supposed to do, we're probably going to get a chiropractor out of it. Now, if each team does what they're supposed to do and they each do that 10 different professions, you will have the benefit of competition in the room. Four or five chiropractors competing for one seat. But you're also going to get the benefit of instant perceived value because they're going to see your group plus all the people from the health and wellness sphere there, right? So even though those are all visitors, there's still instant value. And like, they can see it, they can feel it, they can. You know, they're. They're envisioning what this looks like. What you don't do at that meeting is say, hey, everybody, thanks for coming to our very special visitor day to the health and wellness sphere. Because we don't have anybody in our health and wellness sphere, and we want to grow that. That kills the instant value, right? That then they start going, why would nobody be a part of this already if it's so great? You don't say stuff like that. So the answer is just a, a turn in the. It's the same activity. It's the same strategic activity, just the front end strategy changes from, all right, everybody, you own what you need. And if we each truly owned what we need, we can double this chapter to, hey, collectively, we need to focus on this fear. And this is same strategy with the target, with the inviting, the language, all of that. That's where. This is also the strategy you can use to help balance out your chapter. So after you do your visitor day in member extravaganza, where you all own the profession you want because you selfishly need it and you do need it, that, you know, during the different parts of the year or even during member extravaganza, because we start ours in March, I know most regions around the country don't start theirs in April, so there's plenty of time to do two of these. You can look at your chapter and say, okay, where are we out of balance? Meaning if we've got a really great trade sphere and there's 10 of them, but there's only four in this sphere, or there's only one in that sphere. We can use this strategy to amplify the effect, to try to get them up to the same number of 10. Okay. Because the truth is, yes, a bigger chapter will create more money. A bigger chapter will pass more referrals and on averages that increases for everybody and does increase the opportunity for everybody, but not equally. Not equally. So, you know, if you really grow your, your top three contact spheres and they get even more, they get even larger and, and the separation of their size versus your smallest ones, just that gap gets bigger. Yeah. The chapter as a whole will look like it's making more money, but disproportionately the top three contact spheres are. So you can look at and say, where are we out of balance? And use the same strategy as a chapter. We're going to help build, build this sphere. We're all going to team up. This is what we're going to do, blah, blah, blah. So it's a really great question. It's a really great question. The one thing I would tell you is don't think of it as like, there's no value in our chapter because we don't have anybody. No, there's still plenty of value in the chapter for one of them joining. Okay. You all provide contacts and potential referrals and all of that, but there's perceived, and, and there is more value when there's more people from their contacts here. So this would be the approach I would take as a chapter, and I think you'll find it highly effective. It all comes down though, to accountability, really. It comes down to do all the members really own their part of it Again, even on the selfish side. Right. Everybody owns one profession. We could double this chapter to teaming up and doing this for the sake of building a context where that doesn't exist or is not well represented. Each member has to own their part, and collectively, if they do, the results can be amazing. So, Joseph, great question. Really appreciate it and I hope you guys all have a fantastic rest of your day. Sam,