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In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan take a break from their usual discussion of technical books and review Project Hail Mary by (former software engineer) Andy Weir!Join the Book Overflow Discord here! https://discord.gg/ZwS2fqW7ZZ -- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! ------------------------------------------------------------Carterhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/carter-m-1Nathanhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/nathan-t-2-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Frictionless by Nicole Forsgren and Abi Nodahttps://amzn.to/40l1Pfw------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

New Colab episode between https://www.youtube.com/@UC1U09Fb_5oEBo0mutiNYh5w and https://www.youtube.com/@UCfJRkBBiPtKZyZn_3PxWaiQ !In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan meet again with Carl Brown (Internet of Bugs) to discuss Reflections on Trusting Trust, Coding Machines, and all things AI!Join the Book Overflow Discord (Carl is on here as well!) https://discord.gg/ZwS2fqW7ZZ Check out Carl's new substack here: https://internetofbugs.substack.com/ where Carl is going to be doing some low-jargon writing on the intersection between tech (including AI) and Society.Carl's Site with Links to what he's working on:https://internetofbugs.com/Ted Chiang articles: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/30/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-ted-chiang.htmlhttps://kottke.org/21/04/ted-chiang-fears-of-technology-are-fears-of-capitalismhttps://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/chatgpt-is-a-blurry-jpeg-of-the-webBrian Merchant's "Blood in the Machine" SubStackhttps://www.bloodinthemachine.com/Cory Doctorow's stuff we mentioned:https://pluralistic.net/tag/enshittification/https://www.versobooks.com/products/3035-the-internet-conhttps://www.versobooks.com/products/3341-enshittificationIlya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research on the Dwarkesh Patel Podcasthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR20FWCCjAsArticle about adapting to AI in the classroomhttps://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/25/magazine/ai-higher-education-students-teachers.html---00:00 Intro02:37 Welcome to Carl Brown05:42 Trusting Trust and Coding Machines12:57 AI Skepticism and the Limits of Scaling28:04 Vibe Coding and Code Quality43:02 AI Safety and the Doomer Narrative1:01:54 Every Decade They Say Programming Is Dead1:06:19 Disruption Culture and the AI Bubble1:23:57 Agentic Security and Trust1:32:42 Final Thoughts---Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's rojoroboto newsletter: https://rojoroboto.com/newsletterNathan's substack Functionally Imperative: https://functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss Frictionless by Nicole Forsgren and Abi Noda!Join the Book Overflow Discord here! https://discord.gg/ZwS2fqW7ZZ -- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! ------------------------------------------------------------Carterhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/carter-m-1Nathanhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/nathan-t-2-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Frictionless by Nicole Forsgren and Abi Nodahttps://amzn.to/40l1Pfw---Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss Frictionless by Nicole Forsgren and Abi Noda!Join the Book Overflow Discord here! https://discord.gg/ZwS2fqW7ZZ -- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! ------------------------------------------------------------Carterhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/carter-m-1Nathanhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/nathan-t-2-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Frictionless by Nicole Forsgren and Abi Nodahttps://amzn.to/40l1Pfw---------------- 00:00 Intro04:57 About the Book and Authors08:24 Initial Thoughts on Frictionless13:02 What is Developer Experience\20:33 AI Agents and Code Safety35:07 The DevX Framework40:47 Making the Business Case for DevX51:35 The RICE Framework1:01:51 Final ThoughtsSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss Ken Thompson's essay Reflections on Trusting Trust and the short story Coding Machines by Lawrence Kesteloot!Big thanks to user 0b00101010 from the Book Overflow Discord for the recommendation! Join it here: https://discord.gg/ZwS2fqW7ZZ -- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! ------------------------------------------------------------Carterhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/carter-m-1Nathanhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/nathan-t-2-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Reflections on Trusting Trust by Ken Thompsonhttps://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rdriley/487/papers/Thompson_1984_ReflectionsonTrustingTrust.pdfCoding Machines by Lawrence Kesteloothttps://www.teamten.com/lawrence/writings/coding-machines/---------------- 00:00 Intro 02:55 About the Authors and Essays 06:14 Initial Thoughts 11:03 The Trusting Trust Attack 22:39 Coding Machines 32:05 AI Trust and Dark Patterns 44:01 AI-Generated Code and the Future 54:52 Stuxnet and Unintended Consequences 1:02:43 Final ThoughtsSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Kent Beck joins Carter and Nathan to discuss his book Tidy First? Join them as Kent reflects on the artistry of programming design, the importance of optionality, and how the Time Value of Money applies to software engineering! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- Tidy First? https://amzn.to/4atHiKa (Paid Link) ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io