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All right. We're here to talk about, really, our new catechism, Rebecca Life in three dimensions. It is one.
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Professor Shigeru Oishi, Ph.D. 4000 Weeks by Oliver Berkman was our maybe, like, conversion text. And when we start our cult, this will be one of our foundational reads.
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So I was going to ask you, and maybe this is recency bias, but I don't really feel like I've ever identified with a book as much as one of these pops. It's not pop psychology because it's real research. It was written for a general audience.
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Yes, but this is real psychology that is deeply researched.
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Yes. And it's not a problem solving thing. It's not like how to win flu, win friends and influence people or, you know, negotiate. It also isn't. It doesn't solve a problem because I'm not, like, looking. But just in terms of like, yes, I get this. This makes so much sense to me. This gives me language and categories and structure for thinking about things I've felt that I didn't have good taxonomy for. And if you don't have good taxonomy for something, it makes it increasingly difficult to talk about. I'm not even sure the taxonomy here is perfect, but it's useful and I would put it in terms of the books I'm glad I've read over the last five years. I'm not sure what I'd have above it on the nonfiction side.
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Yeah, it's. It really, this really articulated something that I have felt, something that I have done in my life without realizing, like, necessarily that this is the thing that I was doing. I was telling you last week, like, I love to have science validate my life choices, and it was cool to feel like, I think you used the word seen. It was cool to feel seen by a writer. I think this sits right alongside 4,000 weeks for me. Both are books that I think would have been really paradigm shifting if I had read them earlier in life or at a different stage of life experience. And I'm so, so glad, like, to have the language for this. I can feel already that this will be the book I recommend more than any other book this year. Like, I've already been Recommending it widely and sharing it with friends. I guess for folks who are just joining us on the Life in Three Dimensions journey, we should tell them what it's about. So Oishi is a psychologist who researches originally happiness but now is interested more in the question of what makes a good life. And there's a deep body of research about what happiness looks like, what it's comprised of. There's a pretty deep body of research about meaningfulness and for a long time psychology has talked about those as like the two primary components of a good life. And Oishi is proposing there's a third component and it's psychological richness, which is a life that's filled with diverse and unusual and interesting experiences. And most critically something that changes your perspective. Experiences that change your perspective and that accumulation of those over time leads to a sense that your life has been rich. Man, I loved it.
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Yeah. And it's not like, I think it's also not extremely goal oriented. I mean a little bit towards the end. It's not like you should live this way because this is a good way to do it. It's saying like in terms of making your life valuable to you, you yourself. Yes, a good life. There's these, this is why it's the third dimension. Right. Because happiness and meaning are fairly well trod and I'm sure there's other things that can be done but like this other piece, the umami of life.
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Yes.
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I think that's for lack of a.
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Better term it needs like slightly stickier marketing and the umami of life is an interesting, that's an interesting pass.
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Well remember when we were kids, Umami didn't exist. We couldn't taste that shit. It didn't, it just didn't happen. We didn't know what umami was like.
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The, the thing that gives it more dimension. I really apprec that there's, that there isn't value judgment about these three components. That oh, I think is very intentional about saying we all want all of these. Everyone wants to be happy, everybody wants their life to be meaningful and people want to feel a sense of interestingness. Everybody wants to have an interesting story and to feel that your life has been interesting. And he's kind of like you get to pick like you're making the stew and you get to decide how much happiness you want to go after, how, how important meaning is to you and how much you're going to build around psychological richness. Because they're often in conflict with each other. Which I think is one of the most interesting things that he that one of the things that makes up happiness or some of the components of happiness are like, less friction. You know, conventional, consistent, predictable, a lack of friction in your life, harmonious and conflict.
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Safe.
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Safe, yeah. That you're not going to bump up against a whole lot. And it's not the intensity of those happy experiences, it's the frequency of them that makes a life happier or less happy. And components of psychological richness require us to be uncomfortable. Having your perspective changed is almost always uncomfortable. Going on a trip or having a difficult conversation with your partner or moving, taking a new job. Like, those are big ones. You don't have to do these big things to have psychological richness. But those are made of friction, they're made of uncertainty and they can produce less happiness. But I think it's an interesting way to say, like, in any experience that we have or in most experiences that we have, like, it might not be a happy experience, but can you add it to the meaning pile or the psychological richness pile and it still be an important component of your life, even if it doesn't produce? Thanks so much for listening. Join us@patreon.com bookriotpodcast to hear the rest of this episode and get access to our full back catalog of premium content. That's patreon.com bookriotpodcast.
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Episode: Deep Dive into Life in Three Dimensions by Shigehiro Oishi [Teaser]
Release Date: February 18, 2025
In this teaser episode of Book Riot - The Podcast, hosts Jeff O'Neal and Rebecca Schinsky delve into Shigehiro Oishi's insightful work, Life in Three Dimensions. Although a preview, the discussion provides a compelling overview of the book's core concepts and its significance in contemporary psychological literature.
Jeff [00:34]:
“Professor Shigeru Oishi, Ph.D. 4000 Weeks by Oliver Berkman was our maybe, like, conversion text. And when we start our cult, this will be one of our foundational reads.”
Rebecca and Jeff introduce Life in Three Dimensions as a pivotal text that combines rigorous psychological research with accessible writing, positioning it as a cornerstone for understanding what constitutes a good life.
Rebecca [01:00]:
“It's real psychology that is deeply researched. It was written for a general audience.”
They emphasize the book's foundation in authentic psychological research, distinguishing it from popular psychology by its depth and academic integrity.
Oishi's book posits that a fulfilling life comprises three essential components: happiness, meaning, and psychological richness. The hosts unpack each dimension, highlighting their interconnectedness and individual significance.
Jeff [04:08]:
“...happiness or less happy. And components of psychological richness require us to be uncomfortable.”
Happiness is discussed in terms of its frequency rather than intensity. Jeff notes that consistent, positive experiences contribute more significantly to overall happiness than sporadic intense moments. Happiness is portrayed as having low friction, promoting a sense of safety and predictability in one's life.
While briefly touched upon, meaning serves as the second pillar, aligning with extensive psychological research that underscores its importance in a fulfilling life. Meaning involves activities and relationships that contribute to a sense of purpose and value.
Jeff [02:30]:
“Oishi is proposing there's a third component and it's psychological richness, which is a life that's filled with diverse and unusual and interesting experiences. And most critically something that changes your perspective.”
Psychological richness introduces complexity and depth to life. It encompasses unique and varied experiences that challenge one’s perspectives, fostering personal growth and resilience. Unlike happiness, which seeks comfort, psychological richness thrives on diversity and sometimes discomfort, enriching one's life narrative.
Rebecca [01:04]:
“I get this. This makes so much sense to me. This gives me language and categories and structure for thinking about things I've felt that I didn't have good taxonomy for.”
Rebecca shares her personal connection to the book, highlighting how Life in Three Dimensions provides a framework for understanding emotions and experiences that previously lacked clear definitions. This structure aids in articulating and navigating complex feelings, enhancing personal introspection.
Jeff [01:45]:
“I can feel already that this will be the book I recommend more than any other book this year.”
Jeff echoes the profound impact the book has had on him, suggesting its potential to be transformative for readers seeking to comprehend and enhance their life quality.
Rebecca [03:30]:
“It's not extremely goal oriented... in terms of making your life valuable to you, you yourself.”
The discussion underscores that Oishi’s framework is not prescriptive but rather invitational. It encourages individuals to determine the balance between happiness, meaning, and psychological richness based on personal values and desires.
Jeff [05:15]:
“...psychological richness require us to be uncomfortable. Having your perspective changed is almost always uncomfortable.”
They acknowledge the inherent tension between the dimensions. Pursuing psychological richness may involve challenges and discomfort, contrasting with the seamless comfort that often accompanies the pursuit of happiness. This balance requires conscious effort to integrate diverse experiences without sacrificing well-being.
In this teaser episode, Jeff and Rebecca provide a thought-provoking glimpse into Life in Three Dimensions. They commend Oishi's ability to distill complex psychological concepts into an accessible framework, offering listeners valuable insights into crafting a well-rounded and fulfilling life.
Jeff [00:34]:
“Professor Shigeru Oishi, Ph.D. 4000 Weeks by Oliver Berkman was our maybe, like, conversion text.”
Rebecca [01:00]:
“It's real psychology that is deeply researched. It was written for a general audience.”
Jeff [02:30]:
“Oishi is proposing there's a third component and it's psychological richness, which is a life that's filled with diverse and unusual and interesting experiences.”
Rebecca [01:04]:
“This gives me language and categories and structure for thinking about things I've felt that I didn't have good taxonomy for.”
Jeff [05:15]:
“Psychological richness require us to be uncomfortable. Having your perspective changed is almost always uncomfortable.”
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