With the uncertain state of the economy right now, money is on most people’s minds. Now is the perfect time to explore why our finances are so much more than “just numbers,” and how intricately emotions and money intertwine.

My guest, Aja Evans, is a financial therapist and the author of the new book, Feel Good Finance. After noticing how often people in therapy sessions breeze past their money stresses, she set out to make talking through our financial concerns more commonplace. This one is certain to resonate—Aja’s insights left me feeling like I’d just had a cathartic therapy session myself.

Identify your financial priorities and values with Aja’s expert advice:

Why we need to consider our childhoods when thinking about money;
How we can talk about money with our kids to set them up for their own financial futures;
The hefty, wide-ranging impact of financial trauma (and why we need to address it);
How to start figuring out our basic needs and making brave changes to get aligned.