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Welcome back for another episode with guest Alex Himel, Meta’s VP of Wearables.

Alex’s team works on some of the industry’s hardest technical problems, all in the service of helping to build the next computing platform. Like Boz, he’s a tenured leader at Meta, having filled numerous leadership roles across the business in his 15+ years at the company.

Boz and Alex cover a range of topics, including wearables, augmented reality, and how AI is accelerating and improving the kinds of experiences embedded in Ray-Ban Meta glasses and future products. They go deep on Orion and the positive reception it’s received since Mark Zuckerberg announced it at Connect.

Stay for the deep dive on Orion, and don't miss the the sandwich talk. Alex and Boz get into what makes a great sandwich, where tomatoes really go, and which bread is superior.

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