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Brain Drain
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Brain Drain is a Midstory podcast that looks at an average American city through the eyes of the people who’ve left it behind. The decision to move away from home is often difficult and charged with deep and complicated emotions, and people have a wide range of motivations for leaving. But they all stem from the same, central question: When is home no longer enough?
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You Will Do Better in Toledo — Part II: The Midstory
Feb 2700:27:43Tap to summarizeIn the season finale, we talk to the minds behind Midstory — the ones who bubbled back up the brain drain and have dedicated nearly a decade of their life to this city.Throughout this podcast, we’ve talked about many of the tangible reasons people have left or stayed — opportunity, career, money, social life, culture, family ... the list goes on.But this episode will explore some of the more intangible reasons. Midstory didn’t come into existence because Toledo’s a promising place to start a nonprofit (it’s not), or even because some of Midstory’s founders grew up here. They didn’t start Midstory from trust funds or with the intention of padding their resumes. Midstory’s here for deeply personal reasons.Because maybe it’s not all logical. Maybe it’s not the rising job opportunities, the affordable housing market, the growing social scene, the ease of traveling from Toledo, and so on and so forth. Maybe it’s not the parks or the zoo, the museums or the concerts. Those things all help. But, there is still something more — something like a calling.Welcome to the final episode of Brain Drain, a Midstory podcast that explores the city of Toledo through the eyes of the people who’ve left it behind. In this episode, we call on three people who came back to help build Toledo’s tomorrow. Visit www.midstory.org/braindrain/ to explore interactive data visuals and listen to bonus content.
Transcribe →You Will Do Better in Toledo — Part I: The Interns
Feb 2000:18:29Tap to summarizeIn the last eight years, Midstory has brought over 200 bright, young people from across the nation to Toledo, Ohio, through our internship and fellowship programs. They're from the Harvards and the Princetons, the Northwesterns and the UCLAs. Some of them grew up here, some of them had never step foot in the Midwest (let alone Toledo). They're smart. They're visionary. They’re exactly the kind of young talent Toledo can't keep.They spent a summer imagining what a Toledo that included them might look like — and comparing that to the city that was in front of them. As you can imagine, their impressions didn’t always line up with the perspectives of proud Toledoans. They may only stay in the city for two months or a year — and their experiences may be limited — but maybe it’s the right time to hear what they have to say about our city. Because, whether you agree or not, their perspective is something we can learn from.Welcome to the first part of the season finale of Brain Drain, a Midstory podcast that explores the city of Toledo through the eyes of the people who’ve left it behind. In this episode, we bring the Midstory interns back into play to talk about what makes a city like Toledo worth living in and fighting for.Visit www.midstory.org/braindrain/ to explore interactive data visuals and listen to bonus content.
Transcribe →I Am Going To Live Through This Even if It Kills Me
Feb 1300:23:57Tap to summarizeM*A*S*H’s beloved Corporal Klinger was a proud Toledoan, much like the actor who played him, Jamie Farr. He, along with his audacious wardrobe, would do anything to get back to Toledo. The role and the TV show gave the city a sliver of the national spotlight during the ‘70s and ‘80s, an era when Toledo’s reputation had already begun to slip.We’ve spent most of this season exploring some of the things that have led people away from Toledo — the lack of a vibrant social scene downtown, the pitfalls of a post-industrial economy and the appeal of more established cultural scenes in other cities have all caused young adults to pack their bags.But this week, we’re going to spend time with some of Toledo’s Klingers. Their perspective is still shaped by the exodus unfolding around them, but that awareness only strengthens their resolve. It makes them want to dig deeper, to keep insisting on Toledo’s promise and to encourage their friends and neighbors to work harder on behalf of this city.Still — how long can Toledo keep counting on its biggest advocates to swim upstream?Welcome to episode six of Brain Drain, a Midstory podcast that explores the city of Toledo through the eyes of the people who’ve left it behind. In this episode, we explore Toledo's current efforts to retain young people ... and if they're enough.Visit www.midstory.org/braindrain/ to explore interactive data visuals and listen to bonus content.
Transcribe →I’m After Whatever the Other Life Brings
Feb 600:24:32Tap to summarizeToledo isn’t short on amenities. It's got a world-class art museum, an award-winning library system, a zoo that could rival any across the nation, and an ambitious parks system looking to revitalize the city's riverfront.That, coupled with the low cost of living, makes it — in theory — the perfect place for any young person to build the life they want to live. But many young people aren’t satisfied with ease and comfort and are still waiting for something more. Something that Toledo is working on, but might not have fully figured out yet.Research has shown that young people, in part because of their adventurousness, are more likely than their older counterparts to start new businesses, donate to charitable causes and advocate for social and economic justice within their communities. If it’s a search for adventure that has led them away from Toledo, how could this city transform to provide that spark and excitement that so many bright, young minds are hungry for? Or is it enough that, one day, those very same people might find themselves looking for what Toledo already offers?Welcome to episode five of Brain Drain, a Midstory podcast that explores the city of Toledo through the eyes of the people who’ve left it behind. In this episode, we take a closer look at Toledo’s calling card and ask whether it’s enough to continue to define this city.Visit www.midstory.org/braindrain/ to explore interactive data visuals and listen to bonus content.
Transcribe →(We Gotta) Fight for Our Right (To Play Smooth Jazz!)
Jan 3000:29:07Tap to summarizeJake Vriezelaar loved being a creative in Toledo, but after a stint in LA, realized the scale of his ambitions in the film industry would lead him elsewhere. Now, he lives in New York.Alyssa Brutlag grew up in Toledo, and dreamed of one day being a professional dancer. School led her away and then COVID led her back home, but she ultimately felt the Glass City just didn't have a big enough appetite for dance. Now, she lives in Chicago.To be fair, Toledo is not a New York or a Chicago. It's Toledo.And the city has a long history of commitment to the arts — and artists. In 1941, the city hosted the first American performance of the Nutcracker and has performed it without fail every year since. In 1977, it was the first city in Ohio to adopt the One Percent for Art Program, which requires 1% of the city’s Capital Improvement Budget be set aside specifically to support public arts. In 2022, Toledo officially became home to the largest mural in the United StatesToledo is investing heavily in the arts, today, too. A newly released Ohio Creative Economy Report reveals that Northwest Ohio's creative sector supports nearly 14,000 jobs, generates $789M in worker income and adds $1.2B in value to our regional economy.But is that investment making it easier for local artists to stay in town? Welcome to episode four of Brain Drain, a Midstory podcast that explores the city of Toledo through the eyes of the people who’ve left it behind. In this episode, we explore Toledo’s efforts to attract the workforce of the future.Visit www.midstory.org/braindrain/ to explore interactive data visuals and listen to bonus content.
Transcribe →I'm Scrolling, and I'm Scrolling, and I'm Learning a Lot
Jan 2300:28:33Tap to summarizeThe Toledo region is known for its affordability. The promise of having it all — a family, a house, a job — combined with the possibility of remote work makes moving to Toledo a no-brainer. Right? Trevor and Hannah Lee, a young couple who returned to Ohio for good, are doing just that. Trevor is a boomerang to the area, and Hannah is originally from Sacramento, but both are finding the opportunity in Ohio to be able to work remotely and build up the life they envisioned. But while folks like the Lees are thriving here, Toledo’s affordable cost of living is still not enough to stop the brain drain — even in the midst of a tech spring in the Midwest. Remote workers in America, who could live just about anywhere, would rather pay skyhigh rent to live in New York City or Chicago than move to much more affordable places like Toledo. Welcome to episode three of Brain Drain, a Midstory podcast that explores the city of Toledo through the eyes of the people who’ve left it behind. In this episode, we explore Toledo’s efforts to attract the workforce of the future.Visit www.midstory.org/braindrain/ to explore interactive data visuals and listen to bonus content.
Transcribe →Like Being Nowhere at All
Jan 1600:26:05Tap to summarizeIn 1973, John Denver sang a song about Toledo to an estimated 30 million viewers of the Johnny Carson show. It was not flattering. 🎶 "Saturday night in Toledo, Ohio, is like being nowhere at all ..."What follows describes a place where there is nothing to do except “sit in the park and watch the grass die,” where the sidewalks are rolled in by 10p.m. and where “great entertainment” is watching “the buns rise” in the bakery.At the time, John Denver’s song “Rocky Mountain High” occupied the number 3 spot on the pop charts, and news of his bruising new ballad made its way to Northwest Ohio, where some Toledoans were offended. Toledo’s mayor told the press that the song was “offensive as hell.” Blade reporter Tony Gearhart called Denver “a no-account slanderer” and “a furrow-browed, demon-eyed, nothing-is-sacred pop singer.”Welcome to episode two of Brain Drain, a Midstory podcast that explores the city of Toledo through the eyes of the people who’ve left it behind. In this episode, we explore Toledo’s efforts to create an exciting and social urban scene. Visit www.midstory.org/braindrain/ to explore interactive data visuals and listen to bonus content.
Transcribe →Tomorrow Never Came
Jan 900:27:52Tap to summarizeIn 1868, Jesup W. Scott claimed that by the year 2000, “Toledo would be the largest city in the world.”Unfortunately, Scott’s vision of Toledo never came true. At least, not fully.In 2000, Toledo, Ohio, was not the largest city in the world.Today, Toledo is not the largest city in the world. It’s only the 81st-largest city in the United States, and its population has shrunk by more than 100,000 people over the last 50 years.The problem is not just that people are leaving Toledo. Population decline is actually quite common — last year, researchers predicted that half of all U.S. cities will face depopulation by the end of this century.Welcome to episode one of Brain Drain, a Midstory podcast that explores the city of Toledo through the eyes of the people who’ve left it behind. In this episode, we untangle Toledo in its past and present — and perhaps most importantly, in all its dissonance.Visit www.midstory.org/braindrain to explore interactive data visuals and listen to bonus content.
Transcribe →Welcome to Brain Drain
Jan 100:03:07Tap to summarizeWelcome to Brain Drain, a brand new Midstory podcast that looks at an average American city through the eyes of the people who’ve left it behind. The decision to move away from home is often difficult and charged with deep and complicated emotions, and people have a wide range of motivations for leaving. But they all stem from the same, central question:When is home no longer enough?The answer to this question has led over a hundred thousand people away from Toledo in the last five decades, and still looms over this post-industrial city that is searching for itself.But even after decades of departures, this community is still full of people who refuse to count Toledo out.This story begins in Toledo, but it doesn’t end here.Communities across the Rust Belt and across the country are grappling with these same issues. So we’re after a bigger narrative, one that explores what a place represents to the people who live in it and the people who leave it behind, and one that — we hope — will transform the way we think about the future of all American cities.Tune in to Brain Drain episodes below or wherever you get your podcasts.
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