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3: Influencer finances, 50-day benders, AI baseball & my fear of DJ Khaled - Ep. 3
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And I vowed today, sitting down Memorial Day in los y compra los vasicos parelo gar pomenos ahoro centadolares en la parria gas de cuatro que madores Char Royal Performance series. That one thing today's episode would not be is redundant. I've been so grateful to be on this brand safe press tour and filming all these episodes and stuff, but as I'm starting to look at all of the interviews and the episodes, it's like, we get it. Like, are you brand safe? Like, you haven't told us. Like, it's giving. Parrot. It's giving. Polly want a cracker? It's giving. She's so grown. She's so sober. Oh my God, we get it. And I just feel like I have a lot of Hawaii episodes, but they do lean on the same topics that I was talking about in episode one and today I really just wanted to sit down and just talk about all of the random things that are on my mind today. I Woke up at 7am today, which obviously I think someone would normally respond and say like, wow, good for you. And I think it is a good thing. And I think a lot of people are mourning people, and that's really awesome for them. I just don't understand, like, for the past two days, yesterday I was up at 6am and today I was up at 7am first of all, I'm texting people and they're just texting me back. Like, just everyone is awake at this time. Unbeknownst to me, for years of my life, everyone is awake at this time. They're overjoyed, ecstatic, they form feeling, fully coherent thoughts and they're responding. It's baffling to me. I'm starting to train my brain and I'm liking, you know, being awake at this time. But then 4pm comes around, which is when we're podcasting right now, and it almost feels like when your vibrator dies, it's like you're almost there. It's just. Something's off, you know, it's just my vibrator's dying. My. My emotional and mental vibrator is dying. I'm gonna have to go acoustic. I will say that when I am feeling this level of, like, caffeine come down tiredness, I think I'm a little more unfiltered. On top of being in Hawai, Hawaii, I think my Give a meter is very low today, which is going to make for a good episode. I'm so happy to be here, too. I feel like with the Brand Safe launch, I always had this vision in my head that we would drop the first episode and then we would come to Hawaii because I feel like I know how my brain works. And when I'm in la, I hit the ground running every time I go back there. I just want to work every single day. Kyle and I did not take one singular day off. And I'm not. It's not giving. Try being an influencer for a day. And I'm so hard working. Like, I. I love my job and I'm so lucky. And I'm not saying any of that, but we weren't even listening to music or, like, watching television shows or consuming media. Our lives were consumed with the Brand Safe launch, and it was so awesome. But towards, you know, the. The couple nights before episode one dropping, just as you start to become so consumed with it, obviously the staying up until 5am with Premiere Pro opening, acting like I'm Martin Scorsese over this podcast episode, like cranking the angles and the sound edits and all of these things, you start to lean a little more anxious just due to the way that you're living. And I think that before the launch of episode one, I was just so anxious and worried about how it was going to be received. And just if this thing that I had been spending so much time on and so much love on and so much care on was going to be worth it. And then it launched and you guys have been so incredible and I just want to say thank you again. The redundancy, I. We get it. You're grateful, but, like, it's so crazy. Even just over the past couple days, I've been meeting so many of you that have just come up to me saying the most moving things that I will never forget. I flew to Vegas for Mother's Day, and I was on the tarmac of the plane. I met this girl who was traveling from Warsaw, Poland, and was just telling me about how, like, across her travels and her solo journey that my content was helping her get sober across her time there and that she's from Vegas, so she saw a lot of herself in me. And she was coming home for Mother's Day and this was her first Mother's Day sober. And she gave me this little like, magnet that she got in Poland that she was gonna give her brother and she said she wanted to give it to instead. And I brought it here to like, put on my fridge. Cuz I never want to forget that moment. It was just like straight after launching Brand Safe, it was the day I launched Brand Safe. I got on a flight to Vegas and I was just meeting so many of you guys. Amari went to the bar at the airport and I was just sitting with him and this girl came up and she tapped me on the shoulder and she was like, I've been trying to get sober for months. And I woke up today and told myself this was going to be the first time that I didn't drink at the airport. And I felt myself faltering. I was like walking over here to the bar and then I saw that you were sitting at the bar and. And I feel like this is a sign from the universe to not drink. I don't know. It's just so crazy, this universal connection that I have with you guys. I met this girl here yesterday who was congratulating me on the Brand Safe journey. And she, her and I have now met on every single coast. Like, we met in New York City, we met in Vegas. I'm sure there are other coasts actually. Let me not get geographical. And then we just met yesterday on Maui. I was like, I can't wait to see you in Texas next. It was just cool to see her and like, I don't know, talk about Brand Safe in this new era. And I just can't thank you guys enough for making me feel very reassured in it. Just all of the people in my life, even Ms. Chelsea Handler. It's actually funny. She just sent me this video that. And I think she's the next episode, by the way, which I'm really excited about. We just had such a profound conversation. It's been really crazy seeing the response people have had to her at Kevin Hart's roast versus all of the men there. And I. I do want to get into a whole conversation about that in a second. Just some thoughts I'm having. But she just sent me this video, which I'm living for. Baby, as your mother, you've used ostracized now three times incorrectly. You Mean alienated. Ostracized and alienated are two different things. I hate to school you, but you know that I'm your mother and I need to. So ostracized is not the word that you're looking for, but I'm not. I forgive you. And so will the world who's listening to this because they don't know the difference. But I do. It's so funny because one of my, like, random niche self goals in this era is to stop using words incorrectly. I am begging in this life to become a grammarian. God cut me off. God cut me off. To actually start using all words correctly. Jokes aside, she has been so, so supportive of me during this era, and it has been so kind, and it's so crazy, obviously. Also just, I love watching anything that my idol does and seeing the way that people have just been having so much more to say about the things that she said at Kevin Hart's roast versus all of the things that all of the men said that were also, like, arguably much unfunnier. Here I go again with the words. And even as I did call her daddy, it was so interesting to me. I was seeing so many people in my comments being like, team Alex. Team Alex, Team Alex. Going back and forth on, like, whatever. And I've had a lot of people ask me my thoughts on the Alex versus Alex of it all. I just keep saying the same thing where I'm like, why is it that one has to thrive and the other has to be burned at the stake? And, like, again, I could go on the tangent a million times that if it was two men, it just wouldn't be the same thing. And it's one of those things where I keep saying, seeing people just so up in arms about this, and I'm like, who cares? There's so many more things going on in the world that matter so much more. You don't know either of these people and, like, they both can thrive separately. And why is it that one of them has to be mutilated in front of you for it to, like, be okay? Like, I just. It's so interesting to me always the double standard that women are receiving in society. I found the Kevin Hart roast actually to be so interesting. It almost felt like this social experiment. It's so interesting watching people do. Do something for a living that you want to kind of do, you know, Like, I definitely want to get into comedy, and I definitely think that stand up is so incredible. And I've been in taking so much knowledge from Chelsea. I'm like, trying to get myself there, and it's so cool. But then I watch these roasts and it's. I don't know, it's so interesting. Again, I know that the comedians say and that roast culture is like, you're just supposed to take a joke and you leave it all out there. But it's like, there was a lot of his roast where I felt like a lot of these people were not joking, Even Katt Williams. I do feel like I will take anything Katt Williams says as true truth. Maybe I'm sheeple for that. But just like he said it, he said, I will tell a joke, but I will not tell a lie. And it was very interesting to watch. I loved Pete Davidson death restraining order. He's gonna get it. And I also loved Miss Chelsea. And then some people had some funny stuff, but there were other people who just seemed angry at one another. And it was so interesting seeing the other people's, like, facial reactions and just, like, the tension. Like, honestly, it was on Mother's Day, and now I'm really wishing that I'd gunned a little harder to be in that room just to have seen it in real life. Because it's like, I don't know, you just want the insider tea. Like, do these people actually hate each other? And like, what the hell was that? In so many ways. I mean, an entertaining watch. But even, like, the laugh tracks, hearing them, like, were they edited in, honestly, Let me stop. We can call Chelsea. We can find out. A baseball is also a thing AI baseball games. And I've already given my two cents on this on TikTok. And I just, you know, again, I think that the ball should be rolling for so many of these people and so many other things, you know, investing and, you know, maybe they should be pitching themselves for a loving and healthy relationship. Right? Like, I swear to God, I opened my phone the other day and the amount of women I saw, and I guess there's a man one, too. What are men doing? They're. They're putting themselves in fake freestyles, which makes me want. Why do we want to be fake at a baseball game? Why do we want to be fake freestyling? I think it's so scary for the psyche too, because then you're posting this thing and people are commenting like, you look amazing. And then you're starting to believe, like, I look amazing. I look so good in this video at this baseball game, and people are telling me that I look so good in this video at this baseball game. People are telling me that my freestyle was so good. And it's not you. You were never there. And I get that it's your face that you're like putting into the video and into the photo, but at the same time, like, it doesn't matter. It's still not you. It's still not a real moment. And you're receiving these compliments and saying thank you. Like, it's like, how can you post a video of you fake at a baseball game and someone says you look so good and then say thank you so much. Like a part of you is belie like, oh, I look so good at that baseball game that I'm at. And mind you like there, there is a like Dory is out there losing his like humble abode. Like real water is being used for that. And I think that it's like that's a whole bigger conversation on AI and using water and just the disgusting things that happen and like all of those things, right? And if it's this now, what is it so soon? When is it fake videos? When is it influencers posting fake like talking videos and fake product endorsements and fake. Imagine this just cut to an AI ad of me like doing seat geek and like I'm in like the stands at a base game. Today's episode of Brand Safe is sponsored by RO. I've loved using GLP1s for quieting my food noise. Okay? The little devil on my shoulder telling me to eat a Bagel at 3am When I'm not even hungry and just need to go to bed is so loud. And I feel like GLP1s have really helped me in regards of not just eating when I'm like bored or sad or happy overeating. It helps me structure out my meals and feel like I'm making better choices. And you guys know GLP1s are everywhere right now, okay? But I feel like the conversation around them can get really overwhelming really fast. And while they're definitely not right for everyone, having actual support and guidance makes such a huge difference. And what I like about RO is that they connect you with licensed providers who help determine if GLP1s are right for you and support you through the entire process. 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But we're getting to a point where it's undetectable and we're getting to a point where, like, people are being rewarded for zero authenticity. And, like, again, I think that, like, there are trends that are fun to hop on and stuff. And, like, I don't always want to just, like, harp on the fact that society is, like, all becoming sheep to the same trends and all these different things. Like, sometimes it is just fun to, like, hop on a silly little trend. But, like, seeing AI Baseball gate has been so disheartening to me because I'm just like, where is the originality? And we're going to have James Charles doing a fake AI apology next. Like, we're literally that close. It's so funny. Kyle just held up AI apologies question mark, like, giving me a topic, and I was like, you know what? Period? It's so funny because, like, you're not AI, but I'm talking about people being unoriginal and, like, you just held up a topic that, like, I used. Like, I don't have AI, but I have Kyle. The girls are fighting. I can't wait to bring Buster here. Honestly, he's gonna love it. Make baseball real again. I just, I love to see people doing real things. I don't care if it's you literally on the toilet just farting. Like, at least it's you. I would rather see my favorite influencer straight farting than at a fake baseball game. And of course, did it let me bleep her name, actually, because that is not who I want to be on this podcast. But honestly, this all brings me back to what I was just talking about, which was being here in Maui and just starting to not spiral over the brand safe stuff and just be able to touch all of the beautiful grass. And I'm so happy to be here as well. Kind of doing boots on the Ground journalism, if you will, for all of the things that I want to do for Hawaii. Because I just can't stress to you enough how much this place means to me. And I feel like I almost live under this cycle where I go to LA and I'm doing my job and then I notice the city and just all of the things that I feel when I'm in the city start to burn me out a little bit. And I come back here and I reset. And I'm so grateful that I'm able to do that. I know that that's not a realistic thing. I can't believe that that's what my life looks like. But I'm also just so grateful for Hawaii. I think that the second that I get here, I remember how much more of a world there is outside of my little bubble. And I just see the way people are so kind here and the way people care for each other here and the way that everything is about the community. Other people are making sure other people are eating and fed and have money and are taken care of and like, no one is littering so that their entire ecosystem is better for everyone to live forever. Like, the things that people care about here versus the place that I live, it just reminds me that all of these things that I, like, blow up my brain worrying about just don't matter as much and to just like, get back to my center. And the things that I do care about and the things that I should be doing in this life and the things that, you know, our time is our most valuable form of currency. And I think that sometimes I get lost on spending my time on the wrong things. And I come back here and I remember the things that I want to spend my time on. And this morning I decided I wanted to spend my time on them. Driving around here. And it's so crazy. It goes all back to my point that everyone in Maui is just so much nicer. Driving in LA has been so difficult because the way people act on the road, the way every single person on the 405 in Los Angeles traffic is acting like they are driving to someone's birth. They are acting like someone's water just broke and they are on their way to Cedar Sinai. And mind you, these people are going anywhere other than someone's birth. They're just going anywhere. And it's, it's the lane changing. I, I didn't even know people could and do change lanes like that. It's like you were just in this one. You don't need to be in this one. Why are you cutting me off? Why are you doing this? It's been nice to be here. Even the. The. The amount of Karen in my area that are just honk, honk, beep, beep, flashing at me as I drive. It's like, God forbid a girl takes two extra seconds to make a turn, to look around, to make an extra little turny, little head, little swivel. They only care about themselves and where they're going. And then you come to Hawaii and everyone's so patient and no one's honking at you. And it's so nice. I definitely don't know where I got off thinking that I should have a monster truck. Like, it's been so interesting trying to drive my hot wheel Toyota 9000 around. Like, just feeling like I'm driving around a UPS truck is definitely very fierce, but I guess it's preparing me for any car that I can have. So I spent a little bit of my morning driving and then I got back to the house. I've been doing a lot of, like, stretching here. I also feel like this is the first time in my life that I am doing downward facing dog in a productive way and why I couldn't have been saying any other sentence that I've been saying across this podcast while that man was just behind me. I had to get a second MRI in Los Angeles, and I just. My condolences to anyone who's had to spend a majority of their life inside of those machines. It's a hellhole. First and foremost, you have to remove all of the metal from your body. I couldn't get my nipple ring out to save my life. And there's no worse just deep or feeling than like, being late for your MRI because you can't get your nipple ring out. I was taking pliers to my own nipple pliers to my own nipple twisting while Makoa and Amari are in the room watching me. Like, I hate this. I get to the MRI as I have some, like, pulled discs in my neck. And I get there and it's in Beverly Hills. It's a bougie mri. And I'm so grateful. My chiropractor, he's in Beverly Hills, so he just, like, set it up down the street. And I get there and I'm like, it's just so la. I get to the MRI machine and they hand me these goggles that allow you to see outside of the machine and onto a projected screen, which I actually think is really great for, like, the claustrophobia of the mri. Like, just being able to know that there's an outside while these construction noises are playing and you have to lay dead still, which Lord knows I've never been still in my life. So I almost think with my adhd, like, being able to focus on something else outside of the machine was like a good thing. I'm in the machine and they're like, what do you want to watch? And obviously we all know that I said, I want to watch Justin Bieber music videos. Okay, take me to purple Bieber land where everything is magical and I'm going to get through this MRI. And so then I'm sitting in there. I have 30 minutes and counting. This is my second MRI. I had to take my nipple rings out with pliers. Like, I'm just drained. And I asked them to put on Justin Bieber music videos. And for some reason, every single video that was playing was featuring DJ Khaled. And I know that this is not a real phobia, but I would really like to submit it as one. I have DJ Khaled a phobia. I have another one, a phobia. I am afraid of that, man. I don't know why. I'm just afraid of DJ Khaled. I really don't know. And obviously I've gone on my tangents about how he eats everything, but. And I just like, don't like that about him and like, certain things that he said. But there are lots of people where I don't like what they've said. I genuinely like, I have a fear of DJ Khaled. And now I'm stuck in this mri and every single video that's playing is of DJ Khaled. And I just get out and I'm like, oh my God, I have to start correcting my spinal issues. They're moving down to my knees at this point. And we were talking about this yesterday. Like, I do lean a little knock kneed, okay? I think it adds character. And honestly, I had this thought yesterday too where it's like, I really don't know if I'm a crack baby or not. Like, like, my parents said I wasn't, but they said a lot of things, you know, they said a lot of things that ended up not being true. And like, a little knock knee never hurt anybody. You know what I mean? I think it adds character. It makes me like, stick my butt out a little bit. Like, it's fine, but my knees are starting to hurt and bend and snap in a way that I just don't think should be happening. At 27. And obviously that's due to my spine. So while I'm here, I've been really trying to, like, stretch and focus on that. Have no more DJ Khaled mris, maybe fix the knock in my knee, you know, just focus on my health a little bit. And it's been really nice to be here and just be doing that. And that's kind of my little life update of what everything is looking like in Maui right now. And I'm so excited to continue to do episodes like this where I'm talking to you guys about, like, just more random things. Like a random list of things that are on my mind across a week. Not always having, like, just a set topic and set. Set precedent. I hope I'm using that word right, Chelsea, please let me know for an episode. Like, sometimes you just want to talk about random things. And that moves me in to pop culture. I've had a huge mental back and forth about if I ever wanted to bring pop culture to Brand Safe, because obviously I did that for so long. And I think I got to a point where I did feel like I personally just was spending too much of my time, you know, either teetering that line where I was putting the gavel down or just talking about other people. When there are so many things that have happened in my life that I can talk about. And there are so many lessons that I've learned that are, like, profound to me that I want to share with the people that, like, I don't always want to personally, like, rely on that, I guess, in order to be interesting or dynamic. And I like where I'm at now because I think the truth is, is that I will always be very interested in pop culture. Like, I watch pop Culture Jeopardy. In my free time. Trisha and I will go on, you know, tangents now and again talking about it. Like, I like dipping my toes in the pop culture water. But I think that when it comes to talking about pop culture on Brand Safe, I only ever want to talk about it if it means something to me. I don't ever want to just be a part of, like, laughing at someone else. I don't just want to comment on things that I don't necessarily care about. Like, unless something sparks a bigger discussion for me about kind of a more serious topic or more serious thoughts, then maybe I need to just kind of leave my 2 cents out of it, that that's where I'm at personally in life right now. The only one that's kind of light and silly, that I want to talk about is seeing Trisha on Euphoria. She did so well. That episode was so crazy though. Like, obviously I'm sitting, I'm waiting, I'm watching for her and to see her and like, she comes on the tv, we're screaming and we're cheering and stuff. Other than seeing my mother, that episode was so, so crazy to me. Just like the kinkification of like giant Sydney Sweeney tits through the glass. Like, I felt like I watched every fetish in a montage. And like, I wonder if they're trying to get to a point where they're talking about how fetish culture has gone too far and they're going to showcase Sydney Sweeney or Cassie, go through the negatives of like feeding into fetish culture and stuff. But it just seems so glamorized right now that it was definitely very interesting to me. And then obviously, like, like the improv of it all. I know she's improving as Cassie, which is acting and that is talented, but you just have to wonder. There's something about Sydney Sweeney and Scooter Braun that they just, they are like Teemu Kirkified to me. And like, I just. I'm gonna move on. That's enough. I've said enough. I'm moving on to a different topic. I brought this up on Call Her Daddy for a second, but I want to talk about the 50 day Bender girl. Okay? I was scrolling through Tik Tok like a couple weeks ago and I'm looking in my mentions and I start seeing that I'm getting tagged a lot in this girl's TikTok and it's this college girl and she's doing a series about how she's going on a 50 day bender, I think until she graduates immediately after seeing a video. I'm like watching it and I'm preemptively almost with like a dark cloud over society. And that's on me almost for looking at this pessimistically and just assuming the worst. But I'm almost thinking and assuming that I'm going to open the comments and it's going to be a lot of people like praising her. And it's going to be the hell yes. And it's going to be like the white claws of the world in the comments, leaving emojis and shit. And I was just like, oh my God, this is so sad that this is going out to so many young girls to like glorify and glamorize this. And then I opened the comments and to my surprise, so much of my faith in like this new generation was just like immediately restored in the sense that I, I assumed they would have been saying almost what my generation was saying. And then I was seeing so many people commenting like, I'm 50 days sober girl. Like, you got this. Like a lot of people almost telling her this isn't the way to live. I want to be careful commenting on this specific girl because I'm 27 years old. She is probably what, 23, 22, 23. And I made so many mistakes and did so many things at that time in my life that I almost just really deeply resonate with her. Obviously there is something to be said about digital footprint and how jobs now are pulling up people's like wattpad posts from like, like eight years ago. And like the things that we post on the Internet can end up, you know, affecting us in the future. And I'm definitely not the poster child for that. Right. Like, I somehow was so lucky to amass this lifestyle that the toothbrush ended up helping me and not hurting me. Like I am an anomaly to this case. But I'm seeing this young girl post all this and I'm like, oh my God, like, how scary for her future and stuff like that. But also I think it's so interesting because I think that at the time that I was really heavily drinking, bender culture was so glorified and like the send it of it all and like the college trips being marketed. Like I remember one of the first times I really was like blackout drunk on a bender was for just a. Just college. And I wasn't in college, I was pretending to be in college. So that's my own problem. Like I was literally telling them that I was a student at UNR studying nursing. But the trip is just. Was just to like glorify getting hammered for college students. And society for so long was so afraid of the conversation and in denial of the conversation about alcohol being this thing that can ruin your life. And this generation is the very first generation to be talking about how much it can be a poison and how much it can be a deterrent to your dreams and to your health and to your future and to your relationships and to your life. And I think that that's so. I don't know, it's just, just cool for me to see because I never thought that we would get there. I just feel for this girl so hard because I also think that alcohol is one of those things where the further that you get into it, it's so funny how alcohol and a lot of different substances can really be a voice in your head or almost like a little devil on your shoulder. And it's, like, crazy how she's receiving all of these comments, kind of saying, like, girl, like, maybe you don't do this. The withdrawals are going to be so crazy. You're setting yourself up for, like, failure, essentially. A lot of people saying their own stories in the regard that, like, I started as a bender in College. Now I'm 10 years sober because I ended up ruining my whole life. And it's. It reminded me so much of how there was such a long period of time where I was drinking so much, I was just guzzling alcohol at all times. And there were so many people around me that would be like, tana, this isn't good. Or, like, maybe you need to dial back. Or, like, tana's always drunk. Or, like, people would say things that were negative. You know, like, tana, you were so embarrassing last night. Or you were so whatever. And it's so crazy how the deeper you get into drinking a lot of alcohol, the more the alcohol starts to tell you, like, those people are just no fun. And then I. I don't. I don't want to speak for her, but, like, the further that you get into the bender culture, you're obviously having to surround yourself with people who can keep up with the pace, with people who want to do the same things. You know what I mean? She's not gonna call on her sober friends or her friends who drink way less to come hang out with her while she's on this bender. Like, so you slowly start surrounding yourself with so many people, people who. Those are their same interests. And it's so funny, when I look back at my life, how many specifically, like, girlfriends almost did I had where I was like, this is my girl, and we're gonna have fun for life, and we're gonna be best friends for life. And the only thing we had in common was how much we loved ruining our lives together. And then we would sit and almost, like, perpetuate the narrative, perpetuate the alcoholism back and forth to each other. Like, we're so crazy. Like, last night was so crazy. Like, that was so fun. Like, you sit and you make it. Make excuses for it, and you find more people to do that with so that you feel normal in doing this. And I'm just watching this girl continue to document it. And it's like, I feel so happy that society is kind of calling a spade a spade, and, like, at least calling a spade a spade, in my opinion, you know, Like, I think whenever I see someone start to just glorify heavy drinking, I don't. I mean, I'm an alcoholic, but I don't want to say that that's alcoholism because, like, maybe she's not there yet. She's just drinking heavily every single day, day. But I feel like a lot of times drinking heavily obviously does end up snowballing into waking up one day and not being able to quit. And it's so scary. Like, I just want to find this girl and I just want to help her, I guess. And I want to, like, open up that conversation to everyone, because I think it's so easy in your younger years to surround yourself with people who glorify these things. And maybe you're doing it intentionally as well. That's what I'm saying. I think I purposefully surrounded myself with people who glorified those things, drinks, so that I felt better about the things that I was doing. And I didn't even know it. I was doing it subconsciously. And then one day I woke up and had to, like, reroute my whole life just to, like, all of the young girls out there. If you are finding yourself in these situations or these friend groups or these things, or feeling like you need to drink to do these things and that the alcohol devil is on your shoulder and telling you, like, it's not a problem, I can just quit one day. Or like, people who don't want to live like this are so unfun. Or like, everyone who's trying to tell me that this is a problem is just so stupid. It's like, sometimes the substance can end up having such a voice that deters you from the path that you're supposed to be on. This episode of Brand Safe is sponsored by Better Help, and May is Mental Health Awareness Month. 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Find support and have someone with you in therapy. Sign up and get 10% off at betterhelp.com Tana that's better. H E lp.com/tana thank you better help for sponsoring today's episode. I do think it's very cool how many people were stepping up in the comments. And just so I wonder how differently my life would be if my generation and the media that I was consuming was not Bender glorifying and it was anti Bender. Because I also felt like the more I did it, the more I was rewarded for it. And even with all of my girls at that time, like, we noticed, like, the benefits and the fun that could come from the party girl image and like the lifestyle that could come from it. And like, it was just so glorified, I guess. It's also so interesting to me too, because she is obviously the more that she is posting about this 50 day bender, the more she is immersing her identity with alcohol and with partying and with being the Bender girl. And that's where, once again, I feel for that so hard. Because it's like the more that you associate your identity with the drinking and with the things, the more that you lose yourself. And then if you ever want to walk away, you feel like you're walking away from who you are, having to start over on being who you are because you've branded yourself and you've branded your entire life to being that person. And then that's why people are asking to hang out. And then that's what people know you for. And then it's like the further you get into that, the harder it is to walk away. And I just feel like I'm very happy that this generation is the first. Because I feel like even before my generation, like, alcoholism was even less talked about. And the man would just come home from work and he would have the 10 drinks and that was how he coped with the things that happened to him in his childhood or the things that would happen to him in his life. You know what I mean? He couldn't talk about his mental health, so he would drink the happy thought, go away juice, and then beat his wife and then start over again tomorrow, right? The wine moms. And like, how that was so normalized in so many generations. Like the mom who's just Having the bottle of wine to like, cope with her husband sucking and cope with all of her things. And then there was our generation who, like, even thinking about Project X and like, what was it like? I'm smacked. And like the Tumblr era and the spring breakers, like, so much of my generation's formative years were consuming. Like, how sick that party content was. Like, this is the first generation that is putting their foot down and saying, like, this is damaging. And I just really, really, really hope that that girl stops before something bad happens to her too. I was even talking to a friend on the phone about this the other day, but. But it also is so much harder. The withdrawals and like, how scary. Like, if you drink every single day for 60 days and then just stop cold turkey, you can literally die. And like, knowing that this girl is like, putting herself in this position for the whole world to see this happening is so scary to me. And I guess the silver lining, obviously, like I said, is the way that people are responding to it, but I just like, I hope that we continue to normalize the conversation about like, bender culture and bender content and raging culture and like, I'm dying today and I'm hungover every day. And like all of the just content like that, especially to like, the youth, it's so, it's so not a good thing. It's so interesting too, just how much I would not only consume content like that when I was an alcoholic, but obviously make content like that. Not only was I the audience for it, but I knew that there was such a big audience for it and it would like, work. And I'm hoping that we're moving into a part of society where like, that type of content is. Is continuously not rewarded, you know, and now speaking of content that should not be rewarded, hi, I'm Tana Moo, and today I'm going to be adding to the conversation about Jimmy. Chuck and I debated this very, very heavily. Okay? I really, I promise you. But the demons in my head, they've won. And there is an argument to be said like, like, everyone has said everything. I've seen a video online about everyone saying everything. And maybe I am going to get re for this where it's like muzzle Tana now. There's nothing you can say that hasn't been said and maybe you should just shut your mouth. But the problem is is I am so deeply passionate about this conversation. I'm so. And I've been getting obviously a lot of comments in my TikTok to ask about it and I Tried to make a three minute TikTok the other day and the second that I sat down to make that three minute TikTok, before I knew it, it was over 10 minutes and I wanted to make four more. And that is the moment where you sit on the draft and you think about, if you want a podcast about it. And today we are sitting in my office and I want to talk about James Charles Tick Tock. Because here's the thing. And while I may be saying some things today that some other people have said, I do think that there are some things I want to say that are from my own personal standpoint and my own personal life that I've lived, lived and almost my relationship with money going all the way back to my childhood. I've always had a very interesting relationship with money. And I think that money was the main and Chelsea, correct me if this is the wrong word, money was the main contention point. Sounds wrong. Money was money why we fought. Money why mom and dad fought all the time. I, I guess what I'm trying to say say is that so much of the turmoil and turbulence in my household was directly correlated to us not having money. So much of my mother's genuine stress and pain and screaming was coming to us not having money, but she would refuse to get a job. And I think that like, my dad was so big on instilling work ethic into me, even though his morals were so horrible and his whole mindset to everything, to the entire world in the outlook was that money is everything and do whatever you have to do, no matter how immoral it is to get it. And like, by the time I was six years old, I had such heavy ideals on money. I knew so much about why it was a problem. I knew so much about, like, why we had to get it. And like, I talk about that a lot in my book about, like how from a very young age I was plagued with that stress of money. And I, I lived under this belief for a very long time that it would fix everything. And I would be lying if I said that it didn't fix a lot of things. Things. The stress of having no money is unlike any other stress I've ever experienced in my life. I've experienced different stresses and maybe things that were bigger problems to deal with with so many other moving parts and stuff. But nothing is like the rain cloud that engulfs you of just going through life in black and white when you have no money and you have no idea how to get your next meal. And the, the fear that you have to live in constantly and like the fight or flight, the genuine fight or flight to get to your next dollar. To be able to just live, live to just live on this earth. And when I experienced that fear, that was over 10 years ago and today's society, it is so much harder to get a job. It is so much harder to pay for things. The prices of gas and the prices of food. I can't even imagine what it would have been like for me at the time in my life where I couldn't afford food or I couldn't afford gas or I couldn't like afford anything if I couldn't have been able to get a job, job or if things were 10 times the price, I can't even fathom how much harder it would have been for me. And that is why I have such an empathy for anyone going through that right now. And then I ended up getting money. And I think that that all was very interesting for me as well. Because obviously I then immediately upon receiving money, realized how evil money makes people. And then I watched my parents and my family and lots of other people in my life. I mean, my first ever boyfriend blackmailed me for 73 and I had to pay him and my bank account went right back down to zero. And then I was right back in my fear again, trying to figure out how to make the money. And then I got to see what money would make people do to other people. You know what I mean? That like when you have money, people will do the cruelest things in the world to you. And then I think I started after all of those things happened, after my parents sued me and after they spent all of their time from 16 to 18 taking all of my money. And then after summer, I wasn't even going to say his name, but honestly was I say Kim after he blackmailed the out of me after you took my money, you know, that made me have this like burned mentality and this hungry mentality where I was doing anything at any cost for an amount of money because I never wanted to go back to the feeling of what it was like to not have it again. And then as I started making crazy amounts of it, I'm in this of era and I'm, I'm just spending it and I'm like, I think that for a while I placed my worth so directly in that. I think that even like my Jake Paul era and like seeing such extravagant displays of wealth in that era made me think that like I needed to do that too. And like that that's where my worth was at, that if I wasn't quite literally flexing, if I wasn't being the youngest flexer, that I was worth nothing that led me to spending my money in such dumb ways for so long to like my self worth and where it was at. And I think that this is the first time in my life where my relationship to money is a healthy and good one. That leads me to my next point because I feel like I don't want to come at this conversation acting like I have always been flawless with my money as an influencer. Like I just said, even in the ofr, I think I spent so much money on so many stupid things and I didn't do enough for giving back to the world and I was just quite frankly an imbecile. So I don't want to come at this conversation from a holier than thou perspective. However, I want to speak on how I feel feel on today's date, in today's day and time. And I think that some people may disagree with this take. But in today's day and time I do personally feel like us as influencers do owe our money to the people. And obviously that's how this whole James Charles conversation started because he was saying people are in my DMs and I feel like a bank and a lot of other awful things that I'm going to get into and just absolutely share all of my opinions on in a moment. But he was also saying that people just treat him like a bank. But here's my problem with that. I do think that us as influencers owe our people who watch us money and help. And I think that we should be willing and able to give it to them. Because here's the thing. The difference between us as influencers and traditional media celebrities is that our income directly comes from people's personal connection to us. Our pay, our exorbitant amount of wealth comes directly from the working class feeling a connection to us. So why the there's babies around. So why the wouldn't we give back to them? Why the would we not give back to the people that have provided this for us because of their direct connection to us. I can't get behind it. I cannot get behind it. I'm sorry. It just. I need a Xanax. Jimmy. Chuck, it is so. Oh, there's a baby. Hi. Please run away. I'm swearing a lot. We're so brand safe. He's running away. Thank God. So I think that's my first ick is him unveiling the Mask on the fact that you are directly saying that you don't want to help these people who have done nothing but help you. And I just don't understand that either. I think that was a big thing. I started to really feel this. Like I was feeling it before a lot but like something changed to the point that I was crying every day during the EBT crisis when people were being taken off of EBT and they couldn't get food for their kids. I started to feel such an immense amount of guilt because I was like, I'm sitting in my mansion and the world is burning, learning and I want to do everything I can to help people. No human being should not have the right and the access to food. And it's like I don't understand how anyone because that's what, that's essentially what he's directly saying in his video is like, I want to sit in my mansion and giggle about it and scream to camera while people can't eat. While people can't eat. I feel like Gabbie Hanna, I'm like, there's babies on the street. Another thing that I find really interesting as I have become more brand safe life, I feel like I have almost been led into this side of the industry that I really, I was always on the other side of and I didn't know a lot about. And it is so crazy finding out the amount of money that these other influencers and these people who do these big deals and all of these things, the amount of money that they make for one singular post. Also just factually, makeup is the most profitable ip. The profit margins on makeup products specifically is the highest profit margin in any influencer IP at all. Making a drink is more expensive. Making clothing is more expensive. Making candles are more expensive. So knowing now after learning about all of those profit margins, how much money is being raked in is mind boggling to me. His AdSense is also wildly profitable. I would argue to say that he is in the 1% when it comes to profitable Adsense. I mean, and obviously that notion is reaffirmed because he was just on TikTok right before this scandal begging for a new employee. And I said on not Loveline. I was like, I just, I don't like it. We should not be begging the public for shit. We should be giving the public. Yeah, he's online. He's asking for a new employee and a new hire and like, whatever. I guess if that's really how you want to do your casting calls for your next employee, like, like, I don't have too much to say about that. But my problem with his ask for his next hire was that he said to email him three of your most creative ideas for him. And yes, he said in his TikTok that they would get paid if he chose them. But how many ideas were just skimmed through, taken into your consciousness and not paid for? How many ideas were cheap, just read and absorbed and now you are just going to use them for free? And now I guess to just comment on his Tik Tok and the actual Spirit Airlines of it all. I want to talk about a different kind of spirit. I want to talk about mean spirit. I want to talk about being mean spirited. Like, the first thing that I felt like really was the most jarring to me was how genuinely mean he was being in the TikTok. And there's something just so know, I've never struggled a day in my life about sitting there in a plush terry custom bathrobe holding the sides of your arms like this while you make fun of someone so deeply, while you are laughing in the face and screaming. Even if he had just said all of the things that he said in that TikTok, it still would have been an awful, God awful, horrible take. But I think that the cherry on top of the this absolute disgusting cake is that he is sitting there screaming at and making fun of and just being so genuinely mean to this person who was struggling so deeply. This person who it was their last resort, you know, that's also what I can't get behind is imagine being that girl and like life has just beat you down so incredibly. You're one of the 17,000 people who just lost their jobs. You don't know what you're going to do next. The job market as applying for jobs and now Jimmy Chuck is online just making fun of you. Like, how could you not feel like, like, you know, she's not just a number, she's not just a CPU bot. She's going to see that you are evil, I guess is where my head goes. And now I'm going to say something. And I don't want to be giving Marilyn Manson right now, removing my own ribs to suck the fart out of my own ass. Okay, that's not what I'm trying to do. I'm not trying to come at this from some hierarchical I'm perfect someone give me my crown standpoint point. But what's so upsetting to me, and I'm just speaking from my own perspective here, is that when I saw the whole Spirit Airlines thing, I think that my very first thought was like, wow, how can I help? And I think that that should be every influencer's thought. And again, I. It's a little gaveli. I'm not trying to say it in a little gavly way, but it is shocking to me that there are people with that much hoarded wealth that see that and their first thought is not, I can help. It's not their first thought. Their first thought is, how annoying are these people? Like it. It's so jarring to me. And I think that like your first innate thought being anger is so scary and evil and sad to me. I also think that $1,500 to him, realistically is probably a penny to the rest of the world. Like that is the same equate, like. And I think that's what she was asking for, right? Fifteen hundred. All right. Dollars. Like it's the equivalent of a literal penny to him. The time it takes to sit down and film that tick tock and edit that tick tock and post that tick tock. Not only has he already made fifteen hundred dollars, but it takes more of your time. It would have taken him less time to just click the link and donate. And then it's like, obviously his whole argument is like, why should I donate? She doesn't even follow me. But that also is so infuriating to me because it's like, you only will donate your money to someone if they are one of your little fart suckers. You only will donate your money to someone if they're a Jamie Charlie. What about just a human being in need? And so you're saying that if she was one of the shishtars, like, she would have gotten your penny worth of your money. Like it just. Why? Why would it have to be that way? But I do also think that it comes down to the fact that he's never known the fear of having no money money and then just immediately became famous for cutting a crease and obviously has never truly felt any repercussions for all of the wrongdoing that he's done ever. So he gets to just walk around with this God complex, I guess, right? And touching back on the not having fear of money, when I think back to a time in my life where I didn't have money, if I had really tried everything, tried to get a job and tried to get the money and tried to do do all of the things and I couldn't and I would have been able to cold call influencers, you best believe I would have been sending Mac Barbie 07 and Juicy Star 07 a link for my too. I would have been like, like, like, why isn't that just looked at as another resource? Like, like if you can DM Mr. Beast, why wouldn't you? Why is that a bad thing? Why is that a bad thing? Reaching out and also empathy. Put yourself in the other person's shoes. It never feels good to have to ask someone for money. It never feels good to have to say, I'm weak. I've tried everything. Like, this is my last resort. Can you please help me? I'm on my hands and knees begging. I'm giving you the opportunity to show you that I'm beneath you. Like, it doesn't feel good to feel so helpless that you have to ask strangers for money. Like for someone to have to do that, they must really need to it. They must really need the money. I can't. And then just what, in nine months time he's going to be selling an XXXL painted sponge and people are just going to be buying it. It hurts me so deeply, genuinely. It hurts me so deeply. And with the state of the world as well, like obviously with Spirit shutting down, that means less flights. That means there is a very high chance that the overall average flight price will now go up. You know what I mean? Less people working in airports. Obviously we already Talked about the 17,000 jobs lost and all of those things, but even lately, like recently I took this flight to New York, it was JetBlue and the mint section of JetBlue went all the way to the 14th row. And in the past, past those seats lay down, obviously they take up a lot of the plane. And in the past that would be maybe 4, 6 max rows of these lay down seats. And knowing that things are changing to a way that it's going all the way to the 14th row. And then I'm looking back at the rest of the plane and the seats are absolutely jammed together. There's way less of those seats. Like this is a real plane that was made and like what if someone needed to get to New York and they couldn't spend the $2,000 on the lay down separate seat? And then only the back fourth of the plane is economy seats. And now those prices are higher because there's less of them. They're selling out faster. Like we're getting to a point where people are literally not even going to be able to get from A to B. I'm seeing so many more planes and travel services doing that and becoming like all luxury and all of those things. And I'm not sitting here saying that I'm in 15B. I do think it's corny when influencers try to relate to people and cosplay poor and pretend to have no money to be relatable. But what I am saying is that when I get on that plane and I see that I'm sitting here thinking like, I'm so fortunate and this is so scary, I just find it so scary that we're moving to this place of the world where people are not being able to afford basic things. And I do think that us as influencers have a duty to not only use our platform to spread awareness about things. That was another thing for a while that I think I was very wrong on as well. I think that I was so afraid to share myself helping others. And I was so scared of people saying that I was doing it performatively. I just preferred to do those things in private. And I just was very scared of people perceiving it the wrong way. And I know that my intentions anytime that I help someone, anytime that I'm giving anyone money is because I want to. And there's nothing deeper than that, genuinely. Like, I know that I want to be generous to people and I want to give, give back as much as I can, but I was so scared of people perceiving it in a different way. But I think that society has changed. And I think that even if right now, if I were to post myself giving back and I were to receive comments about how it's performative or how I'm just posting this because, so I can look good or like whatever, I would just eat that on the chin. I think it's so important to be spreading that message, whether it's to other influencers or to anyone in the world who has the money, that we are at a place in society where the only thing that is going to save us is if human beings take care of each other, especially if the wealthy take care of the poor. I want to do everything in my power and I said that even in episode one, just about giving back to Hawaii and whatnot. But like, I, I'm hammering that in once again today. And if you guys ever have suggestions in my comments or things that you want to see me do to give back or a message that you want me to spread, because that's the other thing as well. He could have at least shared the gofundme linked. And I never thought I would be at a place in my life where I'm commenting on People's apology videos. I'm serious. Oh, there's a doggy. I want to be very careful. Like, I'm not sitting here trying to commentate on someone's apology video. But I do think that in his first video, he literally commented back to someone and said, I'm not sorry, red heart. And then he deleted it and he took it down and he made another apology video. Not only seeing that video, but also seeing the resurface videos of him like, absolutely scream sobbing when Tik Tok was going to be taken down. And even just at that time, I remember seeing him like cosplay to Chick Fil a worker and just cosplay workers moving stuff around his house. And I'm like, what is with you? Like, getting off on, like, mocking, I don't know, whatever. But seeing in his second apology video that he had completely changed his tune from his first one because it started to get so serious that he, and get this, was fearful of losing his career. And I find that very interesting that he is now, for the first time, fearing for his child job, you know, and still it's just nowhere near at the same scale. The unfortunate truth is that he has amassed enough wealth and property investments and probably realistically, there's a 10% of his fan base that are so die hard. The ones that go to the meet and greets and watch him sing a Little Water Sylvie and all those things that will be there forever, that, like, he will always be able to be wealthy. Even if he got offline right now, if he invested his money correctly and did all of those things, he probably will always be able to be wealthy. And I just think that's so scary, knowing his mindset toward the working class, the people who literally made him. I don't know. I said this in episode one and I'm going to continue to say it. I think that my point here is that I want to show all other influencers that, like, do you ever see a man and you just know factually he would have been a better father than your own? I want to do good. I think that's the point. I want to do good and. And I never want to just sit with a guilt and sit from my mansion or sit from Hawaii and just think to myself, like, I am hoarding all of this because the reason why I have it is because of the people. And factually, the people are suffering more right now than they ever have been. And I do think that every other influencer should think that way. And maybe that means I'm getting Together with some influencers who are like minded and just continuing to do good for the world because it's so important for right now. And I mean that's why I look up to people like the Billie Eilishes of the world who will stand in the rooms full of billionaires and say the things that are scary to say and sometimes it does feel a little scary to say that and like detest people. We are in a very different time of society and I just want to be as much so on the correct side of history as I can with the position of privilege that I'm in. And again, that's not me saying that I was always perfect. It is just me telling you who I am now. Ew. Final verdict predict ew. I will say though that for every negative there's always a positive. Like the amount of influencers I have seen with the correct take. The Jackie Ainas of the world. Like so many different people who have come online and donated and spread awareness to all of the things that were happening with all of those lost jobs, but also people who just want to do the right thing with their platform. There are so many good people and good influencers and I hate to see someone like that give the job title that I have such a disgusting name. Team. That's my tea. That's my opinion. Well, I think that I'm starting to get wildly hangry and I know that you cannot eat potato chips on a podcast. Like this is truly the biggest self control test I've ever had to go through. I'm absolutely starving and just who I become when I'm starving is just not someone that you need to meet. Amari is also here in Maui and this is his first time staying here and being here. Not on a vacation but just like living with me here and like doing all the grocery shopping and all the cute things and just like cuddling up on my couch and stuff. So I want to spend some time with him and. And I'm working on becoming a daily vlogger. I have no idea why I've taken this upon myself but I have some things to go work on. So yeah, I think I need to go get some food. I'm about to go to Paella Fish Market which is owned by Moa's family over here. It is one of my favorite restaurants here on Maui and they have the most insane cheese fries and I need to inhale them. I think I'm meeting with Kiopo, Moa's cousin who's like his brother Moa's not here. I guess I didn't even, like, talk about that at all. This is, like, one of my first times in Maui without him. He is, like, fully in la. I think we're doing destiny swapping, which I'm fine with, by the way. I will take that man's destiny over mine every single time. No, his friend just graduated from USC with some crazy science degree, which is also what I love about Moko and all of his friends. Like, no one in my life is graduating from USC with a PhD in some science thing I can't even name, but he's still in LA for that. And then he's coming here. But it's been really cool to just spend so much time with his people without him here and just, like, I don't know. I think when I. I first came here, obviously, you're, like, the law lost girlfriend who's kind of, like, following around and kind of, like, hoping that especially with how different our lives were, like, just hoping that your lives can mesh and then finally getting to a point where I feel confident enough to be here without him is very cool. He gets here in a couple days. Don't worry. I can't go that long without him. It's funny. He'll always be like, baby, it's just two days. It's just gonna be okay. And I had to tell him to stop saying that. I was like, that's offensive to someone like me. Like, I know that you're saying, like, the. You're being logical. Like, it is just two days without each other, but, like, to me, that is eons. I can't do this. And, like, and then the crazy in me is like, and why do you want to go two days without me? Like, so I just had to nip that one in the bud real quick. Yeah, I'm gonna go spend some time with Makoa's family. And it's funny, Makoa's cousin, who I'm spending time with tonight, he is quite literally a bullfighter, and he has the craziest job in the world. Back in the canceled days, he wore canceled on one of his jerseys while fighting a bull. Honestly, at some point, I really want to have Kaipo on this podcast because I think to wake up one day and decide, like, I literally want to take a bull by the horns, like, not. Not metaphorically. Like, that's what I want to do all the time for a living. And every time I see different broken bone and a different cast and a different limp and a different surgery coming up, and it's so wild to me. I think that's the one thing that their whole family has in common, though. They all love adrenaline. And it's funny, his girlfriend, actually, who I love, was telling me that she saw a psychic who was explaining to her, like, what Kaipo feels when he is in the ring with the bull is the same calmness that you feel when you're meditating. Like, the adrenaline brings him peace. And I think that that sentiment is applicable to all of the boys in Mokoa's family. The genuine adrenaline brings them peace. And I've, obviously, I've gone on a million tangents about what it's like to be the girlfriend to the adventurous man, and just the constant, absolute fear. Mako was talking to me the other day about the scar that he has on his leg. It's down his entire shin. It looks like he should have been soul surfing. Like, it's. It's fierce. It's like the length of a makeup brush. Like, it's so fierce. And it's like, I'm so happy that you still have your leg. And he was telling me about the day that he got it in the ocean. Just cut blood everywhere. And like, deep, deep gash. And in the moment, this was before he met me, he just decided, like, I'm just going to surf for the rest of the day while I pour out blood and then I'll get the stitches later because, like, I'm all the way out here and I've towed a Jet Ski out to surf. So, like, I just want to wait. Like, I don't want to waste the day and I don't want to waste these waves. And I was like, what the is wrong with you? And then obviously I went on a whole tangent where I was like, okay, well, now you have a girlfriend. What would you do? And we, we had to come to the conclusion that he would have gone back to shore had he been dating me. That's a good thing. I think it's very sweet how much he has tamed his adrenaline junkie nature since falling in love with me, but still horrifying nonetheless. But I'm going to go spend the evening with Moa's family. And I just had a neck spasm. Can we play that back? Moa's family keep stretching and avoiding MRIs. And no more DJ Khaled. And I do end this episode with positivity and hope. I think, for everything bad that I see in the world, I also see someone wanting to help another person. And I also see people with such correct takes on the things that are going on in society and I will not be giving up, you know, I will not be giving up on the message that I was trying to spread today. And I will be dying on the hill that us as influencers do have responsibilities when it comes to helping with the things that we are so lucky to have. So thank you for hearing me out on all of those things and just sitting in my office with me and having a little brand safe discussion. I love you guys so much and we will take talk very soon. And I really wanted my hair to be down by the way. Like I it was crimped, it was cute. The wind didn't allow it. So please also just imagine with all of the sentiments that I was sharing today that my hair was down. Bye. Aprovecha los ahoros de Memorial Day in los y compra los vasicos parelo gar pormenos ahoro centadolares en la parria gas de quatroque madores char Royal Performance Series. Los punto com visita to Lois Mastercano.