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Bravo's Hot Mic
Lindsay Hubbard Talks Carl Radke Break Up, Pregnancy, Biggest Summer House Regrets and More
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Bravo Host
So you were just. You were saying you were traveling.
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Lindsey Hubbard
It's just been nonstop. It was like my baby moon. We had a wedding in Sun Valley, Idaho, which never been, but it's beautiful. Had a wedding in Nashville. Just went to Florida to see my parents for the first time since I've been pregnant. Going to LA this week for the US Weekly Reality TV Stars event. They're honoring me as one of their top reality stars of the year, which is fun. And then that's it. And then I'm done and I can't travel anymore.
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Bravo Host
You are. You're living your best life.
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Lindsey Hubbard
Yeah, I know, but I'm definitely slowing down and I have to, like, alter, you know, how I travel. Like, I have to wear these compression socks that are so insane to put on. My boyfriend has to put them on for me, but it's like. I don't know if you've ever had anything compression, but, like, it's. They're tight. And especially on, like, longer flights, my feet swell up and we're not trying to look like Kim K around here with our swollen feet.
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Bravo Host
The choice of pregnancy. Welcome to Bravo's Hot Mic and I am joined by Lindsey Hubbard. Thank you for being here with us and bearing with are, you know, I would say, technology challenges.
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Lindsey Hubbard
Well, thanks for having me on and thanks for accommodating, you know, me being pregnant and not being able to fly across the country.
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Bravo Host
Oh, that's all right.
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Lindsey Hubbard
You're worth it.
- [01:36]
Bravo Host
Yeah. So first of all, kind of starting in the most obvious place, but you should be proud of this. What a year.
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Lindsey Hubbard
What a year. It's been insane, Honestly. I did a one year recap on Instagram the day of, like, the anniversary of my breakup, and I got emotional when I wrote everything down because it's been insane, like, how much I've accomplished and how far I've come since a year ago. I'm really proud of it.
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Bravo Host
I mean, I'm sure not in your wildest dreams when you were, you know, in the depths of heartbreak, did you think that you'd be here at this point?
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Lindsey Hubbard
No, I could. I. You. First of all, you cannot script it. Yeah, I'm like an accidental, like, great reality TV person because shit just happens to me and I'm like, I don't. I don't know how we got here. Well, I mean, I know how we got here, but yeah. No, I could not have. I could not have predicted in my wildest dreams that I would be pregnant less than a year after that insane and terrible breakup.
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Bravo Host
Well, so obviously A ton to cover. But I kind of wanna go back to the beginning, and let's talk about your summer house origin story and how you became a part of the show in the first place. So take me back to what, nine years ago at this point, right?
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Lindsey Hubbard
Yeah. It feels like a lifetime.
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Bravo Host
Yeah.
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Lindsey Hubbard
Or many lifetimes. Okay. Kyle and I met in the summer of 2014. It was. I was actually in his house memorial day of 2014. That summer, he had a house in Montauk. We've been living this lifestyle, and on season one, it truly started with Kyle and I's group of friends. So everyone you see on season one, like, we all hung out all the time. It was in, like, the heyday of New York. And, you know, this is just the lifestyle that we live in New York, like, during the summertime, we work during the week, and then we get on the train or the jitney and get out to the Hamptons every single weekend, party, let loose, go crazy, and then, you know, come back super hungover on Sunday nights or early Monday mornings back to the city, and it's like, rinse, repeat, do it all over again. So, yeah, season one really started with mine and Kyle's group of friends. I think, from what I know of this story, one of Kyle's buddies had sent him this, like, open audition casting call for New Yorkers who go out to the Hamptons. And Kyle, you know, one of his buddies sent it to him, and they were like, oh, ha, ha ha. You should go to this. How fun. You're like, the king of the Hamptons. I don't know. That's like, my dumb guy voice.
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Bravo Host
I buy it.
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Lindsey Hubbard
So Kyle goes to this, you know, casting call. He looks around, he's like, what is going on? This is not, like the demographic. It was just a bunch of, like, young, young, young people. Not, like, who had never been to the Hamptons before. Almost just like they were going on, like, a modeling casting call or for a scripted, you know, show. So, of course, Kyle, being Kyle, the alpha leo that he is, was like, I need to talk to the casting directors. I need to talk to the creators. And he gets in front of them and is like, look, this is not how it goes in the Hamptons. You usually get into a group of friends, and we all share houses together as friends. Like, we already know each other. This is not the real world, et cetera. So he was like, look, we all throw this party every single year. It's called Back on Campus, which we did. We had a Back on Campus party every September, after the summer, where, like, all 200 of our friends got together at a bar and we just raged. And like, I say 200 because legitimately there were 200 of us. And, like, peripheral, you know, we didn't all hang out every night altogether, but there is different pockets that equal 200. So they came to the back on campus party one September of 2015, and, you know, just started plucking people left and right. Oddly enough, although I was at that party, I was not involved in those original, like, interviews with the creators and the casting people because I was filming a pilot for a completely separate reality show about hospitality in New York. So I'm, like, under contract filming this pilot for this other show that was, like, meant to be on E. Or something. And, you know, different characters in the hospitality industry around New York, me being the hospitality publicist and all my friends are, like, going to this green screens and interviews and whatever they called it back then for Summer House. And I was like, this is so weird. Like, how did I get on this other show? And all my friends are like, on this other show. And as the universe would have it, that pilot that we were working on fell through. Whoever was running it or the main character, I think I was just a supporting character on that one. But, yeah, that had fallen through. And so the twins, Lauren and Ashley work as came to me and they're like, hey, your other show fell through. Can we introduce you to the creators of Summer House? They're looking. We're looking for one more girl. I was like, yeah, of course. Sure, go for it. And so I, you know, it was like, now it was December, January 2016. I sit down on a zoom with the creators in la and they were like, this is our girl. Wow, this. This is our girl. And that was it. So I was the last female that wound up being, you know, on Summer House. And then we still had a few more seats to fill with the guys.
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Bravo Host
Well, it's nice when it works out that way, right? I mean. Cause you kind of think, like, twist of fate, what if that other show had been picked up? Who knows whether it would have taken? And you ended up on a show that you've now been on for nine years and has changed your life.
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Lindsey Hubbard
That would be an understatement. Yeah, I. So I originally, you know, my mindset going into it was like, look, we don't know how long this show is going to last. It. All you hear, especially, you know, from our executives, like, everyone's trying to manage expectations is, this could just be a Year. It could be two years. Like, you are so lucky if you get to, like, the third season.
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Bravo Host
Yeah.
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Lindsey Hubbard
So we really had no clue how long it was going to last. We're already living this lifestyle. I've been going out to the Hamptons since 2007, when I was an intern in New York, and I wound up going out to the Hamptons every single weekend that summer. So I'd been going out to the Hamptons since well before I even moved to New York or I even graduated college. But then I have been doing it since well before the show. So it was like, just a natural. Like, sure. Like, we already do this, where. This is how we live our summer lives. Just throw a camera in there. It'll be fine. For me, personally, I just wanted to pay off my student loans. I think I was like, 30, $35,000 still left to be paid on my student loans. And I was like, great. If I can just, you know, supplement my income from being a publicist with, you know, being on Summer House then and pay off my student loans, have no more debt, I would be in a really good place. So that was. That was like, my incentive to doing. It was purely financial. Nowadays, I think, you know, people join real TV shows for very different reasons. You know, that. But for those of us back in the day with Summer House, I think it was just like, why not?
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Bravo Host
Which is kind of great when your reasons for doing the show are that pure. Because then if the show hits, then great. But even if it doesn't hit, you make a little bit of money, it's an adventure, and you move on with your life.
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Lindsey Hubbard
Yeah, 100% again. I just wanted to pay those student loans off. It was so simple for me. I was like. Like the girl math is like, okay, great. Like, if I can just do one season, who knows how long it's gonna last? At least get the student loans out the door and not have to worry about them. And then we wound up nine seasons later, here we are, and it's like, whoa. Like, how the fuck did we get here?
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Bravo Host
Well, I remember when you actually. I wanna go back before I even talk about remembering when you premiered, because I was doing Vanderpump Rules at the time, and so obviously we were a part of the crossover. But tell me what it was like that first summer to make the show, and how long did it take you to not pay any attention to the cameras, to forget that they were there?
- [11:25]
Lindsey Hubbard
I mean, that first summer, none of us knew what we were doing. I don't think it was A very different type of summer for us. It took a lot of getting used to. We're used to going to the Hamptons and living freely and going and doing as we please. You know, I think that for summer, we're having to restructure a little bit of the programming of how we lived our lives in the Hamptons to. Okay. Like, no, we actually have. Like, we actually have a job to do here. So. Yeah, none of us knew what we were doing. I don't. I don't even know if we did a good job. Like, it's like when you almost fail kindergarten, but you don't. I think. I feel like that's how our first season one.
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Bravo Host
So that first summer, you were in your first relationship with a fellow cast member. Right. So you were dating Everett.
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Lindsey Hubbard
Yeah, I think that they were not very happy with me about that. Everett and I, at that point in time, were really good friends. Like, we had been really good friends for years. And something happened that spring where we just were like magnets to each other. And it wound up like this whirlwind relationship where we fell in love. And this is before filming had even started. So I think ideally, producers and everyone wanted everyone to be single going into that first season, and maybe Everett and I could have. Our love could have blossomed on that first season, but we just. I don't know what it was back then, but we just couldn't. We couldn't hold back. We couldn't hold back. But to be honest, it's more realistic now. We were the first couple or the only couple in the house, and it added a different dynamic to the house for my relationship. It was terrible. I mean.
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Bravo Host
Oh, I'm sure we fought.
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Lindsey Hubbard
We were drunk. He slept in bed with, like, four girls at one point, and I was like, what on earth is going on? We discovered that, you know, they could hear us while we hooked up.
- [13:38]
Bravo Host
Oh, my God.
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Lindsey Hubbard
Yeah. So there was a lot of discovery in that first season and a lot of discovery as a couple in that first season.
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Bravo Host
And then all of that happens, and then you have to watch it back.
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Lindsey Hubbard
Yeah, that's always, like, the Catch 22 about it, right? And sometimes. Hey, sometimes you're, like, so appreciative that you have this, like, home video of some of the best moments of your life. And then other times you're like, this was a really traumatic thing that happened to me, and I have to go relive it over and over and over. And it's gonna live, you know, on this show until the show goes away. Somehow.
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Bravo Host
Do you watch the episodes?
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Lindsey Hubbard
I do watch the episodes, yeah. I mean, I like to know what I'm talking about. You know, whether I go on watch Happens live with Andy or, you know, different podcasts or media. Like, I like to know what I'm talking about or how to answer the questions, you know, that are being asked of me. But also like, you know, especially before the reunion, you have to, yeah, you have to be armed with knowledge.
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Bravo Host
It's funny because I work with some cast members that studiously avoid watching the show. And it always amazes me because it isn't like you can avoid it, you're going to hear about it anyway. But like I was doing the Orange county reunion, I was teasing Emily Simpson because she does not watch the show. And it was like, you should check it out sometime.
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Lindsey Hubbard
Honestly, I mean, listen, ignorance is bliss. Could work for some people. I'm just not that person. I also think it's a unique opportunity that we have to reflect on ourselves as human beings and adjust behavior to be better people in this world. And I don't think many people get that opportunity, but we do. And I'd like to take advantage of that.
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Bravo Host
No, I think that's true. I think that's right. It also takes a strong person who is able to do that because you know, your flaws, your faults are certainly magnified and you have to be able to recognize them and accept them. And if you don't, then you know you're gonna have a hard time continuing on the show.
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Lindsey Hubbard
Yeah, no, 100%. A lot of people these days, they just like, they see like the finished product on tv and what they don't fully realize is like, it actually takes a really strong minded person to be on a reality TV show. And you just cannot care about everybody's opinion in the world. Like you have to be okay that some people are not going to like you. So if you are a people pleaser or if you are not, if it doesn't sit well with you, if some people don't like you, like, not yet, I don't know if you'll survive. Yeah, no, you might not survive reality tv. I mean, watching it back, there are times that I'm just like, I'm pacing around because I know it's going to be like a tough, a tough conversation that I'm going to have to go watch. You know, I also at this point, nine seasons in, know when I need a friend to come over and watch with me or if I just need to like, you know, put on my big girl pants and watch it myself. But, yeah, there's definitely times watching it back where I'm, like, pacing around, you know, doing laps around my living room, like, when is this over? When is this over? There's other times where I just, like, I have to take breaks and pause it and, like, give myself a few minutes and then come back to it. I mean, it's. It can be brutal.
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Bravo Host
Yeah, it's a lot. And I really advise people who are thinking about doing it to make sure that constitutionally, it makes sense for them, because it's hard. You have to have a really strong sense of self. You have to have really thick skin. And to your point, you have to let go of what other people think about you. Because if you're trying to cater to what you think people want to see from you, they're really not going to like you because you're going to read inauthentic.
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Lindsey Hubbard
Exactly. Exactly. And, like, you know, I feel like, me personally, I've always been kind of polarizing. I think most publicists are like, we're a little aggressive. We're out there sometimes crass. Like, we're opinionated. We are persistent and pushy and bossy. You know, that's kind of just like, naturally a publicist personality, or at least publicist back in my training days. So that was even before the show. But on the show, I'm also just very polarizing. There's people who absolutely cannot stand me. They don't like the sound of my voice. They don't like the way I look. They hate my attitude or opinions. They think I'm insane or crazy. Maybe sometimes I'm a little too feminist and who knows? But then there's other people who are like, ride or die with me. So you're not going to please everybody in the world. It's not natural to. Because then if everyone in the whole world likes you, then you're probably not. You're fake.
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Bravo Host
Right?
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Lindsey Hubbard
How is that even possible?
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Bravo Host
And a lot of the audience is fickle, too. And the other thing is, there's people who write things about you on social media and then meet you and profess their love for you. So it's.
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Lindsey Hubbard
God, it's so weird. Or, like, they'll say crazy shit on my comments or in my DMs, and I will go right back at them. And they're like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. I didn't think you would see this. I'm like, then what was the point of writing, right? What do you mean? What did you not Think. Okay, so you didn't think I was going to see it. So what was your point? Yeah, I did see it. If you want to go toe to toe, I can go toe to toe. And that's the fun. Like, honestly, in my pregnancy, I'm a little. My hormones can rage in, like, one direction or another, like, where I will cry, but, like, will hysterically cry and hyperventilate cry, or I'll giggle, and I just, like, cannot breathe because I'm laughing so hard from giggling, and then I'm giggling at my giggles, and then it's just like, a snowball effect. Or, like, if you catch me on a super hormonal day and you're writing some nasty shit in my DMs or comments, I will bite so hard back.
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Bravo Host
You're fucking with the wrong girl.
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Lindsey Hubbard
Yeah, no, you don't get to do that. Also, it's like, you don't know me.
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Bravo Host
Well, That's. Yeah, I know the extreme judgment. And the other things that I always comment on are the conspiracy theories.
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Lindsey Hubbard
Oh, my God.
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Bravo Host
So funny.
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Lindsey Hubbard
I don't think there's too many conspiracy theories about me. Although I could be wrong.
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Bravo Host
Well, did any. Did people. And I don't know whether this is true or not, but just, I dealt with a million conspiracy theories on Vanderpump. So did people think, like, for example, that Yor and Carl's breakup was staged? Or no one accused you being in on it?
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Lindsey Hubbard
I had a lot of theories about how Carl handled that breakup.
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Bravo Host
What was. What's your theory?
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Lindsey Hubbard
I also, like, have, like, deep down, like, feelings about, like, the whole relationship. Because in my mind, I'm like, this is. You start going to these dark places, especially after a breakup like that, and you're like, was this fake the whole time? Like, Like, I don't get it. I mean, listen, I was basically dumped at the altar. Like, let's get real. It was two months before we were supposed to walk the aisle, and he had not given me any inclination all summer long at all, whatsoever, in any way that he was thinking about this level of, like, ending things. I mean, I knew we had some fights, but, like, who doesn't, you know? Like, that's just, like, normal couple shit. Especially when you have a microscope on you and a lot of opinions around you, and you're sharing a house with 10 people. So, like, in my mind, you know, two weeks before the breakup, he's, like, professing his love to me all over Instagram. Happy birthday to my beautiful fiance. I can't wait to marry You. Another post was about, like, oh, my God, 100 days until we walked down the aisle. And then it was like my. My. Literally, my bridal shower was, I think, two. Two weeks before the breakup. So for me, I'm, like, getting whiplash. And all of a sudden, like, what the fuck? Like, this guy, maybe he is a better actor than I ever gave him credit for. And. And his whole dreams of wanting to go be an actor, like, now they all make sense. So I have my own conspiracies and theories about him as a person, and especially in that breakup. I mean, I don't know. I'm pretty sure people aren't, like, questioning me as far as, like, if the relationship was fake. I think for the most part, like, you know, whether you like my character or not, you know that I'm a pretty authentic person, one of the most on my show, and, you know, live my life purely with who I am, whether you like it or not. And I think, like, that is maybe the strongest takeaway of, like, who I am to people who watch Summer House. So I don't think people were questioning me necessarily in that relationship, but I do agree with questioning the other guy.
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Bravo Host
Yeah, well, it would be insane to question you. It's just having lived through people questioning Ariana, then that's the only reason I raise it. Because the idea that someone would be in on any of this is just staggering to me.
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Lindsey Hubbard
And I think, no, it's staggering. Especially, like, we lived together. We had joint bank accounts, we had a car together. I mean, there was, like, a million things that we shared together. Like, the unraveling of that took almost an entire year. No joke.
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Bravo Host
What's the path from the depths of misery to how happy and glowing you are now? What is. How did that work out for you.
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Lindsey Hubbard
When you're going through something? Like, your whole world just got, like, ripped out from underneath you? It's like those first days, it was, like, taking it hour by hour, and then it was, like, slowly taking it day by day. And then it was, like, slowly taking it week by week. And the first two months was just really just trying to get back on my feet and surrounding myself with family and friends and girlfriends and literally getting the strength from all of my friends around me. And then a couple months later, I just started traveling and putting myself on airplanes and going everywhere. I went to Nashville, where eventually I wound up buying a house. But, yeah, I just was like, I need to get out of New York. Because in my head I was like, fuck New York men. All these little Bitches. Like, I hate them. I'm so over them. Like I can't stand them anymore. I'm never dating another New York guy in my life. I was like, I need a real man. I need a man who works on a farm, who rides horses, who's like, you know, like they work even when they're not working. Because I had a big thing about Carl and the job situation last season. So I was like, I'm going down south, I'm going to find a cowboy. I had this whole thing, right? So I did. And what happened is like I started going to Nashville and I wound up buying a house because I was like, wait a second. Like this is a built in income system for this town. It's group trip after group trip, you know, lots of bachelorettes, bachelor parties, birthday parties, 30th birthdays, 40th birthdays, 50th birthdays, family reunions, I mean, you name it. Like everyone every weekend is going to Nashville and they're throwing down on Broadway and all the honky tonks. So I was like, hold up. Okay, so what if I get this short term rental? It's going to be rented out every single weekend. And it just so happens to be a lot of like our fan base, the Bravo viewer is, is the people, they're the people who are going to Nashville. I was like, this is marketing 101. Like, you know, I'm the marketing tool. I'm going to go make this house and then start renting it out. And so that became my focus. And it was like by November I had looked at houses. By Thanksgiving I put an offer on the house and by the end of December, around New Year's Eve, I had closed on it. By January, I was designing it with the design team and by February I was installing it. Boom. And I mean, it happened so quick. But I will say that I don't think, I think I operate really well on my own. I move quick, I make smart decisions, as long as I don't have anyone holding me back or like sort of stifling my power to, you know, to be mobile and independent. So yeah, I was just like, great, done business over here and Nashville, what else do we got? Make moves and just kind of kept moving forward. Yeah.
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Bravo Host
Yeah.
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Lindsey Hubbard
And I think that's the best revenge. Yes. I had lost a lot of weight. I got really lean and thin in my breakup. The revenge body is always great. But what's even better is the revenge success. I mean, I think Ariana is probably the best example of that. But Me buying a house all by myself without anyone's help, especially a man, no offense, but doing that by myself, turning it into a business and renting it out every single week, multiple times a week sometimes, I mean, that is a better revenge than anything else.
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Bravo Host
It seems like too, this is, you know, a side point, but I think an important one is that you have really embraced being a personality. You've embraced being a public figure. And so I know the shift from being a publicist to being an influencer, being a creator, and then making this investment in real estate because you said that you sort of analyzed the market and thought, well, you know, this dovetails with the audience of the show anyway, so it just completely makes sense. You make money and you get a property out of it must be really empowering.
- [29:01]
Lindsey Hubbard
100%. And like I said, being able to do it in the dark, you know, those beginning. Beginning days and weeks after my breakup were really dark. And like, you don't. Like, all of a sudden you're about to get married in two months, and then you were like, oh, shit. Like, not only am I not getting married where I'm going to have a husband and start working on having a family, but now I'm single again. Like, what just happened? Like, everything was ripped out from underneath me. So rebuilding that on my own terms and what works for me was the most important. And I think doing what makes me happy, Like, I really have always truly been, like, a financially independent person, and I'm a really motivated person as well when it comes to making money. So I think not having to think about the relationship, not having to think about helping Carl along his journey and putting him first and not having to deal with anyone else but myself. It was like the world was my oyster again, and I could put my fingers on anything I wanted to do in the whole world. And I was like, okay, this is actually a blessing. And to be able to say that I did that on my own was incredible.
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Bravo Host
Oh, my God. And then somewhere along the way, then you were taking care of yourself, and then, lo and behold, you fell in love again. So tell me about that.
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Lindsey Hubbard
That was a little bit of a journey. It wasn't like, who? Yeah, you know, I would say. I would say by November of last year, I was ready to start dating again. You know, I definitely experimented with some of those country boys I was telling you about, which was fun and exciting and living in similar lifestyles publicly was nice. And then my boyfriend just sort of popped back up in December out of nowhere. We had dated at this Point, we had dated four years ago. We went on a few dates, and by last December, he randomly wrote me. I guess last year, it was, like, around three years later after going on a few dates with him. So three years later, he writes me and he's like, hey, we should run it back at this one restaurant. And I was like, whoa. Like, blast from the past. Where did you come from? And I was really busy in December. I was already working on my roster at that point, and I don't know, I was closing on a house. I was a little busy. It was the holiday season, so I kind of. I put my boyfriend on ice for a little bit, and then in January, mid January, when things slowed down just a little, I reached back out and was like, okay, we can go to lunch. And so, I don't know, I threw him. I threw him on the roster with the rest of them and was like, you can. You know, he fits in with this little lineup. I'm busy. And he just. He made it so easy to clear that roster. Like, he was the one really making the most effort. I was gone every week. I was traveling a lot. I was focused on my house. Summer house was premiering. I was having to do all this press and media about my breakup because that was, you know, the. A storyline of last season was this relationship with Carl and then subsequently the breakup. So, you know, it was. My brain was just, like. It was distracted, but I was like, sure. Like, we'll. We'll go out with him. Who cares? And slowly but surely, it just was easy to, you know, really, really push everyone else off the roster and focus on him when I had the time when I was in town, and he was putting in a lot of effort and consistency. So we really started. Yeah, we started dating in January, and then, like, got serious pretty quick in March, starting, you know, a month and a half later, I guess, like, exclusive, whatever. I mean, the terminology, as I've learned this summer, is very vastly different for different generations. But, yes, we became exclusive at the beginning of March, and then by April, found out we were pregnant.
- [33:47]
Bravo Host
Oh, my God, you move fast.
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Lindsey Hubbard
I mean, I think the universe was just pushing me in that direction. Yeah, I mean, I was with Carl for two full years, and we never had any pregnancy scares, if that says anything.
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Bravo Host
And then what was your thinking heading into this summer? And I know obviously your boyfriend is not a public person, and you've kept that under wraps, and you were pregnant, so what were you thinking about handling all of that heading into the house?
- [34:24]
Lindsey Hubbard
I mean, there wasn't I guess there wasn't, like, too much thought in regards to having a boyfriend or him being public and me filming all summer. Like, it was just sort of like, this is how this is gonna go. Especially for me. Like, that is my lifestyle. I've been doing it for nine years. I'm not gonna just like, change it for a guy or because I'm pregnant. So I think for me, it was. I was highly stressed that first trimester, and I, you know, just like, navigating just the announcement of the pregnancy in general, but also announcing it to my castmates and friends who I share a house with every summer. So I was. I was pretty stressed out about everything becoming public in general. And there were so many rumors. Oh, my God, it was like endless rumors. I don't know how they found out. I don't know. I mean, they found out real quick, like within one week of me finding out that I was pregnant. I'm not even joking. I had a reporter who we're all very close with that Bravo. He calls me up and he's like, hey, I'm hearing this rumor that you're pregnant. And I'm like, literally in my mind, I'm like, I just found out a week ago. This is so fucked up. And now the media, it's like swirling around the media and swirling around, like, all these Bravo fan accounts. And I'm like, this is insane. Like, how did that. I've been to, like, one OB appointment.
- [36:13]
Bravo Host
Wow.
- [36:13]
Lindsey Hubbard
What the fuck? So, yeah, I was really, really stressed about the rumors and then how I was gonna announce it and how I was gonna play it, but it all worked out. I mean, I started out this summer still hiding my pregnancy. I didn't announce until July 4th. And then as the summer went on, like, I'm showing up to the house, like, just with a bigger belly every single time. And it was really cute because at one point Amanda was saying, she was like, you're really leaning into these crop tops, huh? And I was like. I was like, they keep. They're getting more and more crops as the summer goes on. This actually was a full size shirt.
- [36:59]
Bravo Host
That's so funny.
- [37:02]
Lindsey Hubbard
But it was perfect timing. I mean, imagine, first of all, if I was pregnant in the first trimester and filming, everyone would have been like, are you really pregnant? Are you sure you're pregnant? Like, you don't look very pregnant. Plus, like, you know, you always want to. Us as females, we need to get through, you know, that milestone of, like, you're at the highest risk of miscarriage in the first trimester, you want to, you need to get to that genetic screening, you know, to make sure that your baby is healthy and doesn't have a chromosomal disorder like down syndrome, for example. And you know, I had to get through all of that. So I'm very, very happy. We didn't film in the first trimester. I think it would have been boring for everyone to watch me, you know, in that, that period. Second trimester was great. That's when we were filming. I had a lot of energy, I was growing and I had fun with it. And to be honest with you, it was like, it was so much fun being able to celebrate openly after I announced and celebrate with everyone in the house. It almost felt like we were having like a joint collective baby. Like this is the first time that like anyone has been around a pregnant chick and had access that closely and that consistently to somebody who is pregnant. So it was like any and all questions can be answered. Yeah, it was, it was fun. It was a lot of fun.
- [38:40]
Bravo Host
It must have been a completely different experience too because a lot going on in your head, a lot going on hormonally. Plus also you're sort of clear headed at the same time because can't drink, can't do much of anything. So it's probably a pretty wild outlook.
- [38:58]
Lindsey Hubbard
Yeah, no, it was definitely a different summer. But I think it gave me the opportunity to almost just show a different side of me, you know, that maybe viewers haven't seen before or maybe they haven't paid attention to because I've always, because I'm always drunk on all the other seasons. But I think, you know, like I was really happy and giggly for the most part and like funny and cracking jokes and was. Was able to have like, you know, more deeper intimate relationships form I think with even really just everyone. Like I got along so well with everybody in the house with the exception of Carl, I mean.
- [39:44]
Bravo Host
Well, yeah.
- [39:46]
Lindsey Hubbard
Although by the way, we don't really need to get along with that guy.
- [39:49]
Bravo Host
No, you're. Well, it's interesting because I've seen you've said elsewhere too that it isn't difficult for you to be around him because you've so moved on. And so it's, you know, look, it's your past and it's sort of how you got here, but it isn't your present or your future. But I would imagine too that seeing how well you're doing probably makes him feel on some level like everything is okay because if you hadn't recovered so well, he'd be the biggest asshole of all time. Right.
- [40:18]
Lindsey Hubbard
Okay, So I said that I was. That was my theory over summer. And I'm so glad that you pointed that out, because I would have those conversations with Gabby at the beginning of summer, and I would say, I'm sure he's relieved because then that means that he doesn't feel as much guilt for wasting two years of my life. Very critical years, by the way, 35 to 37 years old. So, like, me having moved on, found love again, and, you know, getting pregnant, which wasn't planned, but that's how we. That's how it all panned out. You know, sort of put me on a track to reaching the goals that I've always wanted to reach for myself personally. And therefore, I think it makes him, Carl, feel less guilty for having had wasted two critical years of my life. And at one point I was like, gabby, you have to let, like, say something to him and, like, find out if he feels relieved. And she at one point came back to me and was like, yeah, like, I had that conversation with Carl and he actually admitted that he is relieved. And I was like, I knew it. So I don't want to hear all this victim talk about how he hasn't moved on and how he's, like, still recovering. Like, no, you feel relieved that I've moved on.
- [41:46]
Bravo Host
So. Yeah, it's so funny. Yeah, that was my. I mean, I'm not surprised to hear that. That was exactly my theory.
- [41:53]
Lindsey Hubbard
Yeah.
- [41:54]
Bravo Host
And now he is in some ways, right? He can claim to be the good guy because, look, he did you a favor. It was the best for both of you.
- [42:02]
Lindsey Hubbard
I know. Well, yeah, I guess we'll see what this season is.
- [42:05]
Bravo Host
Yeah, right.
- [42:06]
Lindsey Hubbard
We'll see how this season pans out.
- [42:09]
Bravo Host
What do you think about your future on the show? Because you're going to have a little girl soon enough. So what does that mean for you in Summer House?
- [42:19]
Lindsey Hubbard
Yeah, I mean, we're definitely, I think, all collectively thinking the same thing, right? We're like, I get asked this question more so than anything. It's kind of similar. Like, last last year around this time, everyone was like, what's it gonna be like with you and Carl in the same house? Like, are you. Are you gonna film with him? Are you not gonna film with him now? It's like, well, what's gonna happen next summer? I don't know. I know that my executives and I are trying to figure it out. And I think it's pretty clear that obviously by next summer, like, my daughter will Be seven, eight months old. Like, what are we gonna. I'm not gonna bring my eight month old daughter to the summer house every weekend to a party house, initiate her early. Although I do feel like she's a party girl based on her nighttime activity and the way that she moves around in the womb. She definitely parties at night. But I would say it's something that we are, I think, all trying to figure out. But at the same time, we do film in the city and we have picked up filming in the city more the last two seasons, this past season that we just finished filming, and then season eight, the season before. So, you know, at very minimum, we can film me in my life in the city if I'm not physically living at the house every weekend.
- [43:50]
Bravo Host
Right.
- [43:50]
Lindsey Hubbard
But being a Hamptons girl, I'll be in the Hamptons as well. So it's not like they, you know, I don't know. We haven't had formal conversations. It's definitely an ongoing discussion. I think, I think we're. We're still trying to finish this story of this season which ends with me having a baby. So I think that's the priority at the moment and trying to understand in what capacity we close this chapter for this season, which ultimately ends with me giving birth.
- [44:26]
Bravo Host
Right.
- [44:27]
Lindsey Hubbard
Yeah. So I think we're trying to get there and then as soon as that happens. Okay, now let's focus on next year.
- [44:34]
Bravo Host
Yeah, you'll figure it out. You'll. You'll see where you are. Now that you've been on the show for nine seasons, there probably are some moments that you regret or that you would take back or you might handle differently. What immediately springs to mind for you?
- [44:49]
Lindsey Hubbard
I know it's hard to say. Right. Because you never really like. I don't regret a lot in life, to be honest with you. I always try to use situations and events as learning opportunities. I 100% regret the amount of times I've gotten intimate on the show. You know, we have a very unique setup that's very different than most other shows on Bravo, where we have surveillance cameras in our rooms and we do a lot of filming secluded to a house that we live in, sleep in, shower in, you know, on the weekends. Most shows, you know, you're. Whether it's Vanderpump or Housewives, you film, you have like very specific scenes or conversations set up outside of the house or within the house, but you're not spending the night with them because they don't have surveillance cameras. So I think just getting intimate, you know, which to Be honest. Like, it happens. Like, it's the Hamptons. It's the Hamptons culture. It's the lifestyle. Your day drinking, your night drinking, your, you know, filters are gone. And again, I'm not paying attention to the camera in the middle or in the corner of the room. So I've. Yeah, I think, like, season six, I had birthday sex with this really hot Argentinian guy. I mean, he was great, but just. I could have. You know, I wish I would have pumped the brakes a little bit, but it's hard to do when you're drunk. I was like, I had just thrown this, like, massive 35th birthday party for myself, and then you see me in bed hooking up with this guy, and you're like, oh, come on, Lynn's. Go to the bathroom. The bathroom's right there. So, yeah, I do regret the extremely intimate moments that I've had on the show. What else? Oh, I would say so. That was season six, season three. I had to have a conversation with Kyle about, you know, a friend of mine had seen him cheating on Amanda, and that conversation was one of the hardest conversations I've ever had to have on this show by far. I just remember that entire weekend crying and crying and crying, just knowing that I had to have this conversation with him. It's hard, right? Because back then, season three, I wasn't super close with Amanda. And normally this is one of those situations where you're like, I'm gonna go to the girl and tell her. If it were now, I would go to Amanda and tell her. But we weren't really close. Season three, and I thought and felt like it was. Kyle needed to. It needed to be on him. Like, you did this. You be the man. You figure it out. Like, it's not my job to go, you know, break the news to your girlfriend. But I would say, by far, that was probably the toughest conversation that I had. I had to have by far.
- [48:29]
Bravo Host
But you don't regret it. You had to do it, right?
- [48:33]
Lindsey Hubbard
I mean, here's the thing. Like, it's not that you regret it. It's more like, should I have gone to Amanda even though I wasn't super close with her? Or, you know, like, there's no which. Like, a better way to handle it. Like, you're kind of like, I'm trying to handle this the best that I can. And you just never know if it's, like, the right way or not. Even to this day, I'm like, you know, I could have gone to them off camera, but it happened during Like a film. Like, I was filming with my girlfriend when she told me, and I was like, what the fuck? So it's tough. Those decisions are pretty tough. I mean, I will tell you that right now. If I'm in a situation and my boyfriend cheats on me. Not even this boyfriend. Any boyfriend. Yeah. Someone better fucking tell me. I don't care if it's on camera, off camera, I want to know.
- [49:25]
Bravo Host
Yeah. What would you tell Lindsey from nine years ago about doing the show? What do you wish you would have known? Or is there just nothing you can possibly know until you do it?
- [49:36]
Lindsey Hubbard
Yeah, I mean, there's nothing. There's nothing you can possibly know until you do it. I don't think I would be on for nine years if I haven't and wasn't as open as I have been. You know, I think. I think it is one of those you just either have it or you don't. Like, you have the, you know, personality that you can open up about your life or you get cut.
- [50:04]
Bravo Host
Yeah.
- [50:04]
Lindsey Hubbard
Like, it's really quite simple. And I've seen it year after year after year where we've had people come on for a season or two, and they don't last very long because they're not honest or they're not open or, you know, that is like, there's a very. There's. There's specific little formulas to make a reality TV personality. And not all of us are the same. Like, I might be a little bit more out there and open with my life, others might not be, but they're offering something else, you know, and their formula that makes them a good reality TV personality. So, you know, I've had a lot of relationships on the show. I would say almost every single one of my relationships has blown up, exploded, derailed, done for. I'm not certain that, you know, showcasing every part of a relationship is healthy for your real life relationship makes for great tv. But, you know, now I'm in a position where my boyfriend's very private and I'm not, so we'll see how that goes. It's like we're just constantly trying different ways to go about all of it.
- [51:20]
Bravo Host
What makes this one different other than the fact that your boyfriend isn't public and isn't on the show?
- [51:28]
Lindsey Hubbard
Relationship wise, I think we're a better match as far as equal standing. You know, I think we're. We. Yeah. It's like when you feel like you finally, like, met your match, he does something so very drastic, drastically different than what I do, that it's It's. We have, like, this sort of, like, opposites attract situation going on between our careers.
- [51:59]
Bravo Host
Yeah.
- [52:00]
Lindsey Hubbard
And I think in general, you know, like, we. We have very similar interests and lifestyles as far as, like, our social batteries and friends and the things that we like to do and see and travel and all of that. But I think it really just works out that he's successful in his own way. That is so very different than me. I'm successful in my own way. We root each other on. We're each other's cheerleaders, but we don't compete with each other. And because each of us has our own success in different industries, like, you know, there's no. There's no insecurities that come along with that or jealousies. I think in the past, I. Especially when you're dating somebody else who is on reality tv, there can be a sense of jealousy. I think from my experience of some of these men that I've dated have maybe been a little jealous of me and, like, you know, where the attention I get versus them. So I think being in completely different arenas, but successful at those arenas is. It just works out better.
- [53:24]
Bravo Host
Yeah, that makes sense. Well, that sounds like a very adult, supportive, constructive relationship.
- [53:33]
Lindsey Hubbard
I'm adulting in all sorts of ways these days.
- [53:36]
Bravo Host
Oh, my God, you sure are. Lindsey. Thank you for joining me. Really appreciate it.
- [53:42]
Lindsey Hubbard
Thanks for having me.
- [53:43]
Bravo Host
Yeah, yeah. This was so much fun.
- [53:44]
Lindsey Hubbard
I know. And then when I'm not pregnant, I'll have to come back and do it in person. Oh, my God. No, this was so fun. I. I love. I love kind of not saying that we got super behind the scenes, but I love more a. More of an intimate look to the process as opposed to just, like, the gossip of it all.
- [54:09]
Bravo Host
Well, that's the idea. And I wish. I mean, you know, definitely would be fun to have you back and have you when you're in town, when the show's airing, we can do more. So. Yeah.
- [54:18]
Lindsey Hubbard
Yeah.
- [54:19]
Bravo Host
So for sure, I'm being. I'm being told that I'm. I'm breaking up the look, so I have to whip my microphone back around to make my point. So there you go. Thanks. Okay, thank you. Bye.
- [54:30]
Lindsey Hubbard
Thanks, Lindsey.
- [54:31]
Bravo Host
Talk to.