Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

Episode Title: 1/26/26: Trump Admin Lies On MN, Second Amendment Destroyed, Glenn Greenwald Sounds Off On ICE

Date: January 26, 2026
Hosts: Sagar Enjeti & Ryan Grim
Special Guests: Janine Eunice (civil liberties attorney), Glenn Greenwald

Episode Overview

In this gripping episode, Sagar Enjeti and Ryan Grim deliver critical, real-time analysis of the fallout from the ICE/CBP killing of protester Alex Peretti in Minnesota—a moment the hosts call an unprecedented assault on civil liberties and Second Amendment rights in modern America. They dissect the Trump administration's immediate false narratives, escalating governmental rhetoric labeling protesters as “domestic terrorists,” and report on ICE’s new tactics, including the tracking of protesters in government databases. Joining them are civil liberties lawyer Janine Eunice and journalist Glenn Greenwald, who contextualize the legal, ethical, and political stakes as the story threatens to become a watershed moment for American democracy.

Table of Contents

1. The Minnesota Shooting: What Happened
2. Trump Administration Response: Lies and Escalation
3. Civil Liberties Under Siege: Discussion with Janine Eunice
4. ICE, Surveillance, and Domestic Terrorism: Glenn Greenwald on the New Authoritarianism
5. Broader Political Fallout
6. Notable Quotes
7. Timestamps for Key Segments

The Minnesota Shooting: What Happened

• Incident Recap:
  The show's main focus is the fatal shooting of Alex Peretti, a legally armed protester assisting someone off the ice at a rally, who was disarmed and then shot by federal agents.

• Video Evidence:

  • A new angle of the incident, reported by Ryan and Dropsite News, refutes early government claims—showing Peretti did not brandish his weapon.
  • Footage highlights agents shouting “where’s the gun?” after the shooting, strongly suggesting confusion and lack of immediate threat.
  • Hosts note the evidence unambiguously shows an “unarmed man is killed”—a “bad shoot” by all standards.

    “There is absolutely, unambiguously, no question that this in law enforcement parlance is bad. Shoot.” —Sagar (10:23)

• Immediate Reactions:

  • Family and friends of Peretti state he was a VA nurse and lawful gun owner, with no record or history of violence.
  • Key context: Peretti was within his legal right to conceal-carry during the protest per Minnesota law.

Trump Administration Response: Lies and Escalation

• Escalating Rhetoric:

  • Border Patrol Chief and DHS officials label Peretti a “domestic terrorist” aiming to “inflict maximum damage” immediately after the shooting (12:20–13:20).
  • Officials claim he “brandished” his weapon, despite video evidence contradicting this.
  • Kash Patel (FBI Dir.) and DHS Secretary Kristi Noem insist, without legal backing, that simply bringing a gun to a protest constitutes criminality and forfeits self-defense rights.

• Pattern of Deceit:

  • Ryan catalogs similar false government narratives about prior incidents—“lies…like 1984” (27:15), calling out a “credibility gap.”
  • Sagar and Ryan warn that these “bad shoots” are now coupled with attempts to criminalize lawful protest and gun ownership.

• Erosion of Rights:

  • Hosts illustrate that government responses now threaten not just individual rights (Second & First Amendments) but set a “new standard” where possession equals intent.

“If fucking around is bringing a gun to a protest, we’re fucked as a country.”—Sagar (29:09)

Civil Liberties Under Siege: Discussion with Janine Eunice

[Segment: 45:48–63:45]

• Janine Eunice’s Verdict:

  • Declares the Peretti shooting “the most blatant execution” she has seen by U.S. law enforcement.

    “He basically didn’t…do anything wrong at all…This, I would say, is a clear-cut case of murder.”—Janine Eunice (47:01)

  • Explains police training distinguishes “passive resistance” from aggression—lethal force is only permitted if the officer reasonably believes they are at imminent risk.
  • Blasts the administration’s redefinition of gun ownership at protests as unlawful, noting Supreme Court precedent explicitly protects this right (“Bruen” decision).

• Dissecting Government Gaslighting:

  • Discusses government attempts to conflate legal protest with violence, calling it “literally out of third world dictatorships” (53:46).
  • Weighs in on the misuse of “administrative warrants,” noting ICE is now entering homes without judicial authorization—an egregious violation of due process (61:09).

ICE, Surveillance, and Domestic Terrorism: Glenn Greenwald on the New Authoritarianism

[Segment: 66:26–85:41]

• Surveillance State Expansion:

  • Glenn Greenwald contextualizes ICE’s creation of protester databases and “domestic terrorist” labeling as extensions of the post-9/11 surveillance state, now turned inward on U.S. citizens.

    “This is the one thing that we were supposed to never have…”—Glenn Greenwald (70:15)

• Political Hypocrisy & Authoritarian Drift:

  • Draws parallels to the 1990s right-wing backlash against federal overreach (e.g., Waco, Ruby Ridge), highlighting the irony of today’s “law and order” Republicans cheering on unchecked police power.
  • Criticizes both parties’ willingness to label ideological opponents as terrorists, erasing the possibility of good-faith dissent:

    “Both parties succeeded in preventing any real legislative reform in the wake of Snowden…allow[ing] the security state domestically to continue to grow.” (70:45)

• Chilling Accountability:

  • Warns against masked federal agents, lack of local checks, and increasing criminalization of protest, calling these the “stuff of dystopian terror.”

    “We should not want masked agents of the state roaming our streets, snatching people off the street…” (83:06)

Broader Political Fallout

• Collapse of Trust & Social Contract:
  Ryan notes that outcry over lack of accountability and disregard for evidence is driving chaos in the streets, with some officials even openly calling for an independent investigation—reflecting how the administration has “blown its mandate.”
• Watershed Moment:
  Sagar and Ryan argue this event could mark the point where broad mandates for aggressive immigration enforcement disintegrate in the wake of overreach and tragedy.
• Potential Government Shutdown:
  The fallout over the shooting and its aftermath threatens to trigger a government shutdown and has sparked impeachment talks, especially as moderate Democrats (e.g., Schumer, Cortez Masto) and even some Republicans break with the administration.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Sagar (08:16):
  “That is one of the most important videos ever, ever published in a situation like this…I do want to thank you specifically [Ryan].”
• Sagar (10:23):
  “There is absolutely unambiguously, no question that this in law enforcement parlance is bad. Shoot.”
• Ryan (14:38):
  “Even if [there] was an accidental discharge, it’s still unjustified homicide. Still a bad shoot.”
• Janine Eunice (47:01):
  “He basically didn’t…do anything wrong at all…This, I would say, is a clear-cut case of murder…I don’t see even any argument here.”
• Janine Eunice (51:38):
  “You do have a right to bring a gun to a protest under the Second Amendment. The Supreme Court actually recently affirmed that in a case called Bruen.”
• Greenwald (69:26):
  “We’re hearing exactly the same things from the highest levels … immediate response…is to label them domestic terrorists.”
• Greenwald (70:15):
  “The one rule that was supposed to constrain [the security state] … was that whatever it is you’re doing can’t be turned inward, can’t be turned domestically on the American citizenry.”
• Sagar (79:10):
  “That was the general intention of the second amendment…when I watch a guy like Alex Preddy get gunned down in the street who did absolutely nothing wrong and then the government labels him a domestic terrorist—this is Waco.”
• Greenwald (83:06):
  “We should not want masked agents of the state roaming our streets, snatching people off the street in plainclothes…”

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [04:13] — Show pivots from snowstorm joking to detailed breakdown of the Minnesota shooting
• [08:16–10:50] — Description and analysis of newly released video; exoneration of Peretti’s conduct
• [12:00–15:41] — First reactions from Border Patrol, DHS; deconstruction of administration narrative
• [22:00–31:00] — Analysis of shifting government justifications; legalities of “resisting arrest” and use of deadly force
• [45:48–63:45] — In-depth segment with Janine Eunice: legal breakdown, administrative warrant issue, rights at protest
• [66:26–85:41] — Glenn Greenwald on ICE surveillance, “domestic terrorism” label, and bipartisan threat to civil liberties

Tone & Language

Breaking Points holds its signature assertive, anti-establishment tone:

• Sagar: outraged, analytical, impassioned in defense of rights (“I am so absolutely furious about this situation.”)
• Ryan: calm but unsparing in his indictment of government dishonesty (“It’s gotten so bad that the Free Press…ran a column called The Lies of Kristi Noem. That’s how bad it’s gotten.”)
• Guests: technical, candid, and unambiguous (“This is the most blatant execution I’ve seen.”—Janine Eunice)

Conclusion

This episode is a clarion call about the expanding power of law enforcement and the shrinking of both civil and constitutional rights in America. The hosts marshal hard evidence and expert voices to show how legal protest and gun ownership are being scapegoated post-tragedy and warn that bipartisan, institutional normalization of domestic surveillance is placing American democracy at grave risk. Listeners are left with the sense that the Alex Peretti killing may be a historic pivot point, catalyzing both public backlash and a dangerous escalation of federal power.

This summary provides a detailed, timestamped, and quote-rich digest, ideal for those who haven’t heard the episode but want to understand its urgency and scope.