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Sagar
Hey guys, Sagar and Crystal here.
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Krystal
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Sagar
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Sagar
We need your help to build the future of independent news media and we hope to see you@breakingpoints.com hey guys.
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Krystal
Happy Friday. How's everybody doing?
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Crystal
Good girl show.
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Krystal
Let's go. Let's go Queen. Let's go.
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Crystal
Let's talk about the boys.
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Krystal
It was a big week over at Breaking Points. I would say we we caused some waves this week I don't think there's any doubt about it.
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Sagar
Oh, no. All the way to Colbert waves. All the way to Colbert.
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Krystal
True. Yeah. Where it really counts, you know, it doesn't.
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Sagar
Nothing really happens unless Stephen Colbert talks about it, as the saying goes in the biz.
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Krystal
Everyone knows that. Everyone knows that. That's why he's being canceled, because he's over the target, Emily.
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Sagar
That's right. That's right. Well, so true Queen.
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Krystal
So, yeah, we had the big Alyssa Slotkin interview this week. I think perhaps even more significant, even though that got like crazy, you know, attention and I think kind of forced her hand on this vote with Bernie Sanders. We'll talk more about that. We also had the interview yesterday with the GHF whistleblower, former Green Beret, which was just extraordinary. You know, here's a man who served nine combat tours, Iraq, Afghanistan, like, has seen everything in war that you would think that you could see. And I'm watching this grown man shake and tear up as he describes what is being done to human beings, not only by the Israelis, by the way, and this is an important point, by American mercenaries sent there, you know, with our taxpayer dollars. Although actually the funding of GHF is very sketchy. And, yeah, I really, I hope people watch that interview because for someone who has so much credibility in terms of serving theaters of war, you know, just retired as a Green Beret, to be that horrified and shocked to his core by what our country is doing in Gaza, I think it really, to me, it really sense of a message, you know, I hope that people are paying attention to.
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Sagar
People are definitely paying attention. That interview has gone viral in just less than 24 hours. So it was great stuff from you guys.
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Krystal
So we've got a lot to get to this morning. There are new tariffs, there's new jobs numbers. We've got new reaction to the Slotkin interview. We have a doctor who's actually just back from Gaza to talk to us. And I don't know if you guys know this. Every time we talk to someone who is either on the ground in Gaza or just came back from Gaza, typically and specifically medical professional, I don't know why the segments get nuked. They just get completely crushed in the algorithm. But it's so important to hear the voices of doctors who have been there on the ground and, you know, to hear their words of what they're specifically seeing right now. And we've also got Kamala Harris coming out potentially, again, another Colbert, another Colbert special here, potentially positioning herself to run for president. So Lots of things to talk about this morning.
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Sagar
Oh, you forgot that we also have access to JD Vance's playlists, apparently on Spotify.
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Krystal
So I buried the lead. Sorry about that.
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Sagar
That was really everything that we were. That's what we're really covering today. The rest is a pretense to get you to stick around to hear about J.D. vance's playlist.
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Krystal
That's right. That'll be in the premium half only. So if you want to be a premium subscriber and hear about that, sign up Breaking points dot com. All right, what should we start with, guys? What do we got here, Griffin?
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Crystal
Well, I'm trying to, you know, enjoy my Stephen Colbert community, but then all of the comments have been overrun. I don't know if you check this Alyssa Slotkin interview here, but I was here just to say, go Slotkin gold, Colbert. Like, rah, rah, rah. But the comments here are confusing me because every single one of them seems to be about Breaking Points. We don't.
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Krystal
Unacceptable.
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Crystal
We don't really like to, you know, analyze comment sections. We know that they can, you know, not be fully representative of a reaction and. And be. Maybe. But we didn't tell anyone to do this. Okay. We didn't tell anyone to go Brigade, the Stephen Colbert YouTube channel.
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Sagar
And we wouldn't because that is a sacred space. That is a sacred space.
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Crystal
Yeah. So I don't know, maybe we're telling people, go in and comment something else. But right here we've got comments. If you're just listening. These are all comments under Alyssa Slotkin's interview with Stephen Colbert. Stuff like, thanks to Breaking Points, we now know the Senator was recording this interview at the same time she was supposed to vote on preventing further funding to Israel for offensive weapons. Another comment here. Slotkin staff told her to go to Breaking Points for publicity. Then her PR told her to go to Colbert's for damage control. The Breaking Points interview really helps show Senator Slotkin's true character. Everyone needs to get her interviewed on Breaking Points. That's how an interview should be handled. And finally, Breaking Points really dropped the ball by not asking Senator Slotkin about her opinion on hot dogs versus sandwiches.
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Krystal
True, true. We missed that. We missed that. Didn't have time. That was my next question before her staff was like, she. She must leave the set right now.
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Sagar
Yeah, yeah, I could tell they were really like rushing it up because you could tell, like Sagar was really, really paying attention.
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Krystal
Sagar. Sagar is more attentive to the staffers concerns than I am.
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Sagar
This is. This Is the same dynamic. This is the same dynamic with Ryan and me. I am like, when the staff is like, we gotta go. I'm like, okay, whatever. And then once I get like three warnings, I'm like, ryan, stop. Wrap it up.
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Krystal
Yeah, well, I mean, the staffers. The staffers, they're gonna tell you she needs to go, like 20 minutes before she actually, like, that's the case.
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Sagar
They know what we do. Yeah, they know what we do.
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Krystal
Right. And, you know, obviously my interview was uncomfortable, but it wasn't going that one. That may factor into how long a time they decided they showed a lot to this. But, yeah, I, you know, I was seeing the messages from. From the guys in the control room, like, okay, the staffer says she has to go. I'm like, well, go in a few minutes. Like a couple more things. We want to get to here. But interestingly, she also. So she missed. We obviously pressed her on, okay, would you block aid, like weapons to Israel? And she starts saying, well, I think there's a distinction between offensive and defensive. And Sagar asks her, okay, well, would you. Would you block offensive weapons? And she says, that's a conversation I'm open to. Then we get into an exchange about defensive weapons. And this is before I knew. I wish I had known. But this is before I knew that burning was going to offer these two resolutions on blocking specifically offensive weapons. So she's very squishy in the interview, doesn't commit, and then happens to decide that it's more important to go to New York and film this appearance of the Colbert. Stephen Colbert. I still want to call it the Colbert Report, but whatever.
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Sagar
Oh, don't you dare. That's going to be an insult to the memory.
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Krystal
That's a good name of that show. Yeah. But in any case, she decides it's more important to be there in New York with Stephen Colbert than taking this vote to block weapons going into a genocide. So this is noted by many people. And she put out this, like, long.
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Crystal
Tortured statement, kind of like a Tumblr post here.
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Sagar
A Tumblr.
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Krystal
It's giving Ackman, you know, Ackman for sure. And she. I mean, I don't need to give you all of this, but she talks about, I've struggled with this, blah, blah, blah, more than any previous votes in the nearly two years. She says ultimately, she claims that had she bothered to be there, that she would have voted for the resolution to block the weapons. And then she goes on to say, you know, she'll evaluate on a case by case basis in the future, just based on, I guess, whether or not like, how fully and completely they're starving and bombing Palestinians at that particular moment.
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Crystal
So wherever she's booked on late night at that evening.
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Krystal
Yeah, I mean that too, right? Yeah. I mean, you know, if Jimmy Fallon calls, we all know what takes precedence, right? On one side you've got a genocide, on the other side you've got late night tv.
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Sagar
So actually, this is how they can. This is how Dems actually should think about if they ever don't want something to pass. They just. And it's a close vote. They just have Fallon call up Slotkin. She's out of there.
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Krystal
There you go. There you go. Good call. Good call on that. So I don't know, what do you guys, what do you guys think about the. Like, what are your thoughts on the state? Because there's so many layers here. I mean, first of all, like, the inability to commit to anything with us, and then she's like, can't bother to be there, and then puts out this long, tortured post that like, you weren't there to vote, so it's sort of meaningless. But also it's not like she's committing to do anything in the future either. It's just sort of. I don't know, it's just sort of classic, like, political evasion and lack of prioritization of anything that could actually matter. An abdication of duty of, like, what power you actually have as a United States Senator.
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Sagar
It's the best trick on Capitol Hill to miss the vote and say how you would have voted. And so her doing that on a critical vote for Democrats, at least in the midst of this media tour, is particularly cowardly and not reflective of somebody leaning into a leadership role in the party, which is exactly what she is trying to do as she goes to all of these different shows. So I have a question about that and then we can table it for the moment, but a question as to why she has pushed herself for exposure over the course of just the last week.
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Ryan Seacrest
Week.
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Sagar
I mean, obviously she's leaning into this for presidential reasons. There are people in the party, it seems to me, very obviously there are people in the party who are pushing her into the. Clearly for these reasons. Yeah. Now, on the other hand, we talked about this privately, but I thought a couple of interesting things came out of your guys's conversation. First of all, I mean, a lot of interesting things, but just in terms of reading the tea leaves, she seems eager to look like she was divorcing herself from Netanyahu and Likud and the current state of the humanitarian crisis. She seemed to me like she was leaning into that. But so she wanted to sort of be seen as somebody, which is very interesting for like the mascot of moderate Democrats to be doing. But she, she couldn't execute, of course, as we've discussed. But like that is in and of itself, I think that's quite interesting. Her doing breaking is quite interesting because I think people are starting to realize that the reason you lose podcasters and young people is because you're not even in the arena. And so they're starting to make this calculation, this cost benefit analysis, that it's better to be in the arena. She knew she was, I was. My theory would be that she knew, her staff knew that she was about to get grilled.
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Crystal
But I think we all agree on that, right? They, we all knew she was coming in for something combative, whether she knew how combative it would be.
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Sagar
Right. So I just think that it's interesting that their cost benefit analysis and is. Is leading them to it, just like going in and that might, that might not be permanent because of what happened on the show, to be honest, and what will probably happen elsewhere, I think.
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Krystal
They'Ll just choose instead to go on like Brian Tyler Cohen or something, you know, like, because now. And look, for a while it was kind of unfair because Republicans had a lot of safe spaces in podcast world that they could go to and Democrats had fewer of those safe spaces. But now there are safe spaces for Democrats to go and like basically get a cable news treatment just on YouTube. So I think that's likely what happens. But the other, I'm hoping, and maybe this is too self congratulatory, but I'm hoping just from a cynical perspective because of how much attention that interview garnered and by the way, how much attention Tucker's interview of Ted Cruz garnered that maybe the. Some of these cynical YouTube podcast actors will realize that actually doing some preparation and asking tough questions of political official, even if you just care about views and clip clicks and clout, that's a pretty good way to get those things because people are interested in seeing these individuals held to account. And obviously the good reason to do that is because powerful people should be held to account. And if you're going to say, on the one hand, yes, they're committing crimes against humanity with an intentional starvation policy, and on the other hand, I don't know if I'm going to do anything about it. And by the way, I'm busy that night. I got to be at Colbert Yeah, I think that that is important information for people to know about a United States senator who clearly has presidential ambitions. So, you know, it was extraordinary to see that. I know it's, you know, I guess it's sort of trivial, but it was extraordinary to see the way that comment section, you can scroll and scroll and scroll and every comment was about her interview on Breaking Points. It's also an indication of why Colbert is getting canned. I mean, I do think it was political and Trump has something to do with it, et cetera. But also, you know, her, what she said to us. And that exchange was vastly more impactful in terms of the political conversation than, you know, the, the bullshit softball spin that she was doing over on Colbert.
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Sagar
I'M also curious, Griffin, go ahead, go ahead.
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Crystal
No, no, no, no. Please go on.
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Sagar
I was just gonna say I'm curious why she's making herself available in media this week.
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Krystal
Seriously, like, oh, I do think, I do think there's a realization. There was a, there's this candidate in the Senate primary In Michigan, Mallory McMurra, who is sort of like, so there's Haley Stevens who's like the full APAC candidate. Like she's like the, you know, most CIA aligned candidate there. And then there's Abdul Said, who has been endorsed by Bernie. We've had him on the show. I think we're getting him back on the show next week, actually. Who says it's a genocide. Like, he's very clear and has been very morally clear on, you know, the atrocities being committed in Gaza. And then there's Mallory McMurray who is like trying, she's a Liz Smith candidate. She's trying to find what's like, okay, what can I say that's going to be okay in Dearborn, but it's not going to like, you know, be unacceptable in terms of like the Israel status quo. And so she also has landed on this position of like we need to block specifically offensive weapons and very much a similar line to what Slotkin was trying to pedal with us. So I think there is a realization that when you have literally 92% of the Democratic base saying this is a horror and it needs to stop and we are not on board with this at all, when you have roughly 80% that say this is a genocide, they have realized that their position of just we're with Israel, it doesn't matter what they do has become completely politically untenable for them. But I don't think they realize yet that if you're going to, there's, there's no like, you know, centrist position on a genocide.
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Crystal
If you're going to, it's not getting better. It's not, it's right. Like, like two years from now, 20, 20, 26, 2028. I, I doubt Israel's popularity is going to be 180 turned around. Like it's only going to continue to careening. So that's right. I mean it is a, it is a toxic, toxic position that's only going to get more toxic.
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Krystal
And the liberal Zionist. Sorry, Griffin, I want your reflection on that. The liberal Zionist position is not tenable anymore. It's just not tenable. And you Saw this in the debate. Did you watch Mehdi's debate with the J Street street dude over on Pod Save?
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Crystal
Yep, I did, yeah.
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Krystal
And I mean, he just ate that guy a lot. I mean, Mehdi is very good debater, so I wouldn't want to go up against him either. But the guy's like, oh, you're always trying to see the J Street guys. Like, you're always trying to see things in black and white. And many says, well, it's a genocide. It is black and white. And for people care about this, like, that's just. That is if. If it's a genocide that's happening, there's a moral clarity. There is a moral and tactical, by the way, responsibility, especially for people in power. So their attempts to kind of, like, find some centristy, abundant style positioning on a genocide is not going to be seen as any better, truly, than, like, a John Fetterman position. I mean, Fetterman's position in some ways makes more sense. Oh, it's like, I support the murder and I'm on here for the murder, and let's just do it. Theirs is like, oh, well, I don't like the murder, but I'm still going to send the murderer the weapons. It's like, that makes no fucking sense.
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Crystal
Yeah, and with that J Street guy in particular, you know, I mean, I thought he had, like, kind of agreeable takes on, like, a lot of stuff. He was, like, basically agreeing with Mehdi on, like, every point. But then when it came to, like, declaring it a genocide, he's like, ultimately, it hurts my feelings, and that's why I don't call it a genocide. And we're. We're kind of. We're past feelings, sorry.
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Ryan
We're.
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Dr. Ambereen Salimi
We're.
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Crystal
We're into facts now. We're Shapiro mode. And so I just. Yeah, I don't see any of that stuff turning around. I just wanted to know one thing. Emily was asking why Slotkin came on the show. And something outside of sort of the clips that have gone out on Breaking Points that was interesting for me was that Slotkin sort of line about herself was, I'm the youngest senator of the Democrats, which is like this thing where, like, they've been trying to recreate Zoran and they're like, well, what is it? What do people like about him? It's probably just that he's young. So as long as we keep everything else the same, as long as we keep, like, kneeling for Israel, but we just get younger people kneeling for Israel, well, then that. That'll Be good. And yeah, it's like comparatively, like, Slot King is like young, I guess, comparatively to the rest of the Senate. But I just don't think that is going to really, you know, I don't think that's going to pass muster.
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Krystal
But, you know, she's 49, for the record.
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Crystal
Okay, well, this is the girl show. She looks great for her age.
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Krystal
That's right.
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Crystal
I wanted to play Slotkin, but it's kind of boring. So do we want to just go straight to Kamala?
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Krystal
Yeah, we've had enough. We've had enough Slotkin for this week.
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Crystal
Yeah. Come on, let's. Let's. Let's rinse our mouths. So Kamala Colbert is like the place to be right at the end here, isn't it? It's like all of a sudden, Colbert's back on the map. He's got Kamala. Kamala is coming here on Colbert to explain why she has said that she is not going to be running for the California governor. Let's take a listen. You're not running for the governor of California.
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Krystal
Correct.
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Kamala Harris
Even though in early polling you beat.
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Crystal
Every other by double digits. You said you're going to sit this one out.
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Sagar
Why are you sitting this out?
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Crystal
Are you saving yourself for a different office?
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Sagar
That might be.
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Ryan Seacrest
No, no.
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Sagar
Audience in our country. That's like.
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Krystal
The cheering is so disturbing. They also cheered for Slotkins. Like CIA propaganda.
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Ryan Seacrest
That's basically that. I am. Listen, I am a devout public servant. I have spent my entire career in service of the people. And I thought a lot about running for governor. I love my state. I love California. I've served as just elected district attorney, attorney general and senator. But to be very candid with you, I, you know, when I was young, young in my career, I had to defend my decision to become a prosecutor with my family. And one of the points that I made is why is it then when we think we want to improve a system or change.
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Krystal
Her family also thinks she's a.
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Ryan Seacrest
On the outside, on bended knee. Are trying to break down the door. Shouldn't we also be inside the system? And that has been my career.
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Sagar
And.
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Ryan Seacrest
Recently I made the decision that I just. For now, I don't want to go back in the system. I think it's broken. I think it's. There's. Oh, my. I mean, there are so many good people.
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Crystal
Audience.
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Ryan Seacrest
Who are public servants who do such good work. Teachers and firefighters and police officers and nurses and. Scientists. Scientists. And so it's not about them. But, you know, I believe. And I always believed that as fragile as our democracy is, our systems would be strong enough to defend our most fundamental principles. And I think right now that they're not as strong as they need to be. And I just don't want it for now. I don't want to go back in the system. I want to travel the country. I want to listen to people. I want to talk with people, and I don't want it to be transactional where I'm asking for their vote.
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Sagar
They don't want to talk about it.
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Crystal
Scientists.
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Krystal
I want to talk to her.
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Dr. Ambereen Salimi
Come on.
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Krystal
Breaking points. Kamala.
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Crystal
She's selling a book. We will. We will sell that book. Crystal, your immediate reaction? We haven't really talked about Kamala almost at all in the show since the election. This is like, one of her most public facing appearances.
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Krystal
Yeah.
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Crystal
What was. What's your take on what you just watched?
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Krystal
Well, I think what you just said is very revealing. Like, as someone who's, oh, my God, I've devoted my life to public service, like, where you been? There's kind of a lot going on. You know, like, you are warning that Trump is a fascist. I agree. And he is behaving as a fascist. And it's been worse than any of us could have imagined. And you've had nothing to say about that. Like, you told us that you were, you know, your heart was breaking over what was happening in Gaza. Where have you been to say, even say anything about that? So, like, I mean, she's. She's so hollow. She's trying to follow the Obama model of being, like, a brand. She doesn't have nearly the, like, charisma or talent to pull that off remotely. And, you know, it's just. It's just if she actually thinks she has a shot in a presidential primary, let alone a general election, this is the most delusional person on the planet. But based on what she said there, I think she does. I think she's been convinced. And, you know, the polls will come out and they'll show her. Yeah. With, you know, leading the Democratic primary, which is very disturbing to me. But we all know the moment that she's actually out there on a debate stage, people will be reminded of why it is that they didn't vote for her back when she ran in 2020 and how she, you know, was part of losing in 2024. And I don't lay all of that at her feet because I think there were. She came in with a lot of baggage, but she also gets responsibility since she was the one on the ticket and made some really bad decisions, especially down the stretch. So I. What happens with these politicians is they have people around them. Kamala is very much a person who puts herself in a bubble. She's very cautious. You know, she's very sort of brittle in terms of taking criticism. And so she's got people around to her who would profit off of her running for president. So they're pumping her up. Look at this poll. Look, they love you. Look at. Go on, Colbert. See how the audience is cheering for you. They'll, you know, they'll be delighted to have you back in. Like, it's just. It's. It's absurd. Kyle and I have a disagreement on this. He's concerned that Kamala could actually do well in a primary. I just don't.
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Crystal
You're saying. Don't you trust the polls? Because we see her name, and maybe it's just name recognition right now.
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Krystal
Name recognition, yeah. She's. I mean, there's just. She. There's a reason why people rejected her the first time she ran. And even putting everything before Iowa.
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Sagar
Before Iowa.
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Krystal
Yes, that's right. And putting everything aside, you think the Democratic electorate is going to put somebody back up who's a proven loser? Like, if there's one thing they're going to be desperate to do, it's going to be to pick someone who could maybe actually win. So I, you know, I don't think there's any way that she would be able to secure the nomination. I guess you never know. But for me, that's not really a fear.
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Sagar
Well, I also wanted to point out something that's a connection between that Kamala Harris interview and the Alyssa Slotkin interview on Stephen Colbert, and actually even Slotkin coming on Breaking Points and talking to different people. Kamala Harris just said her primary reason for not running for governor of California. We. I think we can probably all agree it's likely that she does want to run for president. Again, based on that interview, it sounded like campaigning, but she said it was because she thinks the system is broken. And that sounds like a tested, strategized talking point. And that is about to be a very deeply cynical, I think a very deeply cynical strategy of the Democratic establishment. They have picked up on the mood of. Of the party base. When you have the fighting oligarchy tour going into red states, drawing massive crowds of, as Dave Weigel said, normie Dems, not just, you know, sort of Bernie people, but that's the Democratic establishment. And I would just tell people right now, you're about to Hear this ad nauseam until 2028. It's how Trump took some voters away from the Democratic Party. And it's obviously very, very easy to say, but it's from people like Kamala Harris and Alyssa Slotkin. They know that's the mood of the country. That was their first step. They didn't understand it, they didn't acknowledge it. First step is admitting you had a problem. They've been failing that for a decade now, and they're about to adopt a deeply cynical strategy of using that to try and I guess, sway people back to these moderate candidates.
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Krystal
Yeah, well, and because, Griffin, it's like, oh, the system's broken. Or the institutions weren't strong enough. It's like, lady, you were vice president. So, you know, I. That's the thing, that's what annoys me maybe more than anything is when they act like they are powerless or were powerless. Geez, I wish someone with some power had bolstered our institutions. That seemed like a good thing to do while you were literally vice President of the United States for four years.
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Crystal
Yeah, I mean, it was such a botched explanation, too. She was like, well, I, I worked in the system, but now I don't want to be in the system because the system is broken. Like, she's like, I argue with my mom and dad about being a car. Like, it was just, it was kind of all over the place. And it reminded me because we haven't watched her in so long. Like, every time Kamala gets asked a question, it's like she had never expected the question before. Like, she's like Totally Improv 101.
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Krystal
Right?
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Crystal
Like, just trying to figure it out. It's like, this is the most basic question you're going to get asked. Why aren't you running for governor and what are you doing right now? And it takes her four minutes of word vomit to just kind of like, just give the most, like, unconstructed anti establishment, you know, we're going outside the establishment of all time. And so it's like. But yeah, they can say that, Emily, if they're going to run on that. 2026, 2028. But what's it going to be? Like just a 5% tax credit if you're a local business who's been in college and just graduated grad school for POC businesses? Like, is that the anti establishment thing? Like, there's going to be nothing else outside of like these kind of just airy, garbled statements and.
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Krystal
No, it's going to be, it's Going to be more like, oh, let's edit our videos. Like Zoran. Does that know.
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Sagar
Exactly. It's completely stylistic. Yeah, yeah.
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Krystal
See this. This, like, abundance centrist guy who's running with Reid Hoffman money in New York City against Jerry Nadler. And he's doing like, the Zoron, like, cuts and like, even sort of stylistically, like, his font looks a little Zorani, and then his politics are just like the literal polar opposite. And he's challenging Jerry Nadler from the right. And his whole pitch is just like, I'm young and I've got cool videos. You like me, right? I'm like the next Zoron. It's. It's so cynical and it's. And everyone sees immediately through it. It's the same thing with the Pete clip that we, Emily, you and I covered where he's like, I think the key to Zoron wasn't really about his ideology. It was, you know, it was about.
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Crystal
Premiere Pro using editing the right way.
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Krystal
That's right. I mean, that's. And I. That's part of why Slotkin came on Breaking points, like, to bring it back to that is because that's the sort of lessons they took is just like, we need to go on podcasts, we need to edit videos differently. Like, we need to smile more. Like just the most surface level stuff. And it's like, no, people like this guy because they see that he actually stands for something. And in particular, one thing he stands for is, like, adamantly opposing a genocide, even as everyone is, like, smearing him as being an anti Semite for doing that. So, yeah, they. I mean, they just. They want to take all of the. The visual grammar of an anti establishment and maybe some of the, like, surface level rhetoric and then offer, to your point, Griffin, like, tax credits for people who make less than $25,000 in certain disadvantaged neighborhoods. You know, whatever.
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Crystal
Zoran's got free buses. Kamala's got fire buses with a monthly subscription service. Yeah. Like, this kind of leads to what she's selling here, which is her new book, 107 Days.
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Krystal
Who wants to read this? Who is this for?
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Crystal
And for people just listening on a podcast. So the COVID it says 107 days. It looks a lot. Kind of like an airport book. I mean, I don't. This kind of just like, struck me before we played the video. But, yeah, like, after two years of Israel, Palestine, looking at the numbers 10, seven on a book, like, just kind of like, threw me off.
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Krystal
I just pick up on that.
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Crystal
I don't know. That's just. That's just what I saw right off the gate here. But let's hear what she has to say about the book.
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Ryan Seacrest
Here I go. I launched my campaign for President of the United States. 107 days traveling the country, fighting for our future. The shortest presidential campaign in modern history. It was intense, high stakes, and deeply personal for me and for so many of you. Since leaving office, I've spent a lot of time reflecting on those days, talking with my team, my family, my friends, and pulling my thoughts together. In essence, writing a journal. That is this book, 107 days. With candor and reflection, I've written a behind the scenes account of that journey. I believe there's value in sharing what I saw, what I learned, and what I know it will take to move forward.
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Crystal
All right, so that's basically it. And this, this, like, this comes in the context of that Jake Tapper book about Biden's decline that was like a huge bestseller. Do we think that there's going to even be a page on that in this book? Because that would be the only thing to get Kickstart Kamala for 2028 is to completely throw Biden under the bus. And honestly, that was the only moment where she popped in the primaries when she threw Biden under the bus on busing. So true. Is any of that going to be in this book? Is there even going to be a page? What's your prediction?
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Krystal
No, no. I mean, even. Okay, she may make some vague allusion to it, but that's the reason I say, who is this book for? Because it's not like you could think that this woman is gonna like, actually tell you the truth. She's gonna give you her, like, propagandized version of what happened. And so if you're a Republican, you're certainly not interested in that. If you're a Democrat. I don't think any Democrats really wanna relive that election. And what happens. And you know, the ultimate loss, plus it's just not going to be honest. So. No, I mean, it's just an excuse for her to travel the country and do her book tour and, you know, imagine that she could be President of the United States.
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Sagar
Yeah, some soft image rehab before anything happens in the cycle. I mean, that's what publicists tell you to do. And so who's this book for? Probably the publisher who will make money when she goes and gives paid speeches where they buy the book. And it's an excuse then to also go on a speaking tour and a media tour. And I'M sure she got a decent advance for it. So that's, I'm sure that's what it's about now. I, I would be surprised if there wasn't, to Crystal's point, some vague illusion to Biden's issues in the book. Just because even again, from the cynical perspective, it's so obvious that people are mad about it and curious about it and all of that. So. But I don't think it goes beyond something that's like typical Kamala Harris. Canned, predictable, and you learn basically nothing. It's the opposite of the candor that she's promising in that clip. I've never seen Kamala Harris be candid once in my life.
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Krystal
You know what? I have Emily talking about food. That's what I was gonna say.
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Sagar
Yeah, yeah.
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Krystal
She loves cooking. That's where I see her, like, authentically in her joy, like doing the thing and she's in her element. I'm like, just go, like, start a cooking. YouTube.
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Sagar
Crystal tells the first female vice president to go back to the kitchen. That's the headline.
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Krystal
Listen, it's part of vibe shift, part of my new, you know, part of being anti woke. I have to make up for my energetic take on Sydney Sweeney earlier this week. So that's what I'm here for.
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Sagar
That is amazing.
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Krystal
All right, well, I think we have, I think we have our doctor standing by, so why don't we go ahead. Yeah, why don't we go ahead and bring her in, Griffin?
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Crystal
Yeah, absolutely. We are joined right now with Dr. Ambereen Salimi. She's a Brooklyn based urogynecologist. So sorry to bumble that one. And executive Director for International Medical Response. She recently returned home from volunteering at Nassir Hospital in Gaza where she was stationed for approximately three and a half weeks. Doctor, welcome to the show.
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Dr. Ambereen Salimi
Thank you. It's great to be here.
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Krystal
Yeah, of course. So thank you not only for being with us, thank you for the work that you were doing in Gaza. We actually just talked to a whistleblower who's a former Green Beret who was working at one of these quote, unquote, aid distribution sites. And he was actually telling us how a lot of the, you know, the people who are being massacred, then they would be brought to Nasser Hospital where you were working. So I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about what you saw, what type of injuries were coming in.
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Dr. Ambereen Salimi
Sure. We were, I think, one of the closest hospitals in southern Gaza to the major GHF site that was in the south. So it was almost like clockwork. The mass casualty events that would come in through the ER at any point during every single day, once the GHF site would open up a few hours later, there would just be hundreds of people brought in with gunshot wounds. And it would range anywhere from kids to, you know, adults and older people. It would be mostly men and boys because these were the, you know, people who could go and if possibly get food, walk back the many, many kilometers with, you know, 25 pounds bag of flour. But you could tell immediately that people were coming from the GHF site because the ER would Just be full beyond capacity. And when I say ER capacity, it's not like beds, it's floor space, any space available, because it was, you know, well over the number of beds, just any floor space available. Families would bring their loved ones or rescue workers or whoever happened to be there and it would be on donkey carts, it would be in ambulances, it would be on blankets held between two other people just to get somebody into the er. So it was, it was pretty remarkable.
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Sagar
Can you talk to us, can you also talk to us about treating malnutrition or what you saw? People coming in with famine conditions, starvation? How much of that did you see as well?
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Dr. Ambereen Salimi
So I just wanted to first of all just point out that I went with an organization called Betamal, which is a US based organization out of Texas. Very few organizations are given permission by the Israelis to actually enter Gaza. And I think a remarkable number of people are rejected with no reason given. So that was just one thing I wanted to clear up. The other one was that I spent most of my mornings and days in the maternity hospital. So I had, and not many volunteers are let in to go work as obgyns and urogynecologists because obviously trauma orthopedics burns are more needed. But I felt really privileged to be able to work in the maternity hospital with amazing colleagues and also help take care of pregnant women, but also women who came in with gynecologic conditions. And everybody who came in showed some form of malnutrition. And I mean from the patients that came in that were pregnant, from our gynecologic patients that came in with chronic conditions that hadn't been treated for years, to the babies that were born to women who were malnourished came out obviously much smaller than expected. And also the healthcare workers like my colleagues, my ob GYN colleagues, the nurses and all the staff anesthesia would show pictures from before times, before the siege of what they looked like. And you could tell immediately that there was a massive amount of weight loss. And also just that you could see bones that in normal healthy individuals we don't see. So the malnutrition and the effect of the acute blockade which started in March, where Israel did not let any food in or supplied supplies to a more chronic condition over even before October 2023, there was always limited amount of aid that would come in for about 20 years. So you're seeing sort of this siege, which is the last few months now, on top of chronic malnourishment. And this is what we saw. And I Think the pictures that people are seeing now, which we saw in person. Again, I can just speak to. My experience was, you know, it was just, it was very remarkable. It was very remarkable.
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Krystal
How long were you in Gaza, Dr.
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Dr. Ambereen Salimi
I was there just short of four months. I was supposed to leave, I'm sorry, for four weeks. I was supposed to leave at the three week mark. And we, because of safety concerns, actually our exit was canceled, which was a little concerning.
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Krystal
Yeah, I would. I'm sure it was. I know you're not here to complain about your own discomfort, but I am curious, you know, what about. Were you able to, to eat, have sufficient meals, nutrition? Because we also are seeing reports of medical workers who are fainting and collapsing and dizzy, making rounds and trying to treat patients.
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Sagar
And I would just add your own safety. Did you feel as though, you know, somebody who's treating people, you were safe?
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Dr. Ambereen Salimi
Well, okay, let me answer the first question. As volunteer doctors who are there for a very limited time, we were allowed and actually told to bring in food if we wanted to for ourselves, but nothing more. Because at the border everything was scrutinized and looked at. And if it looked like you were bringing in, I'm sure you've heard stories of baby formula that was taken away, extra baby formula that was not allowed. So people who, like in my situation, we were taken care of because we brought in our own food for the time needed. But what we did see was all our colleagues and the staff in the hospital, including patients, got maybe one meal a day. And right before I left, about a week before I left World Central Kitchen, which was supplying a lot of the hospitals, ran out of food. So that one meal would also be like just a small, small bowl of rice, you know, with maybe some lentils in it or some combination of that, and then that would be it. And then physicians and nurses again, there was. There's no really great supply of clean water, so people are dehydrated. And absolutely we would need to put in IVs to hydrate people so that they could continue doing the work of taking care of others. But everybody did speak about how hungry they were and how hard it was to find food. That was a daily conversation that was happening.
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Crystal
I wanted to ask you about what you said about, you know, 100 people a day coming in shot, coming in from these GHF aid sites. Now, like 100 people coming in shot to a hospital in America would overwhelm it with their modern resources, with all the doctors being fully fed. What does that look like for a hospital? Like, what is 100 people coming in shot? How many are you even able to treat or save in those moments? And then kind of a part two of my question is, you know, we had a recent whistleblower who worked at the GHF aid sites on what is your impression of the GHF and their aid delivery?
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Dr. Ambereen Salimi
So one, the impression I can make from what I saw and talking to my surgical colleagues who I would join after maternity in the afternoon, I would go to the general ors and help where I could. And again, we all lived collectively. So conversations were constantly going on about what came in through the er, what the pattern was that we saw from the ghf. And there was a clear pattern of shooting that looked like it was target practice. I mean, this week they have documented in the ERs and the ORs when they wrote their notes that one day it would be, you know, torsos, one other day it would be legs. Another time there was a string of, you know, genital shots that would come in through the ER. And I think that to try to feed 2 million people that are starving with a few centralized sites and with a system that I can only describe as target practice or some sort of Squid Games, Hunger Games type of situation is not a good system. It's a dehumanizing system. It's a system meant to humiliate people who are starving. That's, that's what I can tell you. We were obviously not allowed near close the sites. We couldn't even really leave the hospital compound because the area outside was a red zone. Speaking about safety. And again, we, we are limited in. We knew that we would be there for an X amount of time and hopefully be able to leave. But I really think that we need to consider the people who are living this every single day for now, 20, 21 months. This is the daily life of somebody. It's unimaginable, unimaginable, you know, unable to leave. Because it's also true that there is no safe place in Gaza. Regularly, in addition to GHF's injuries that would come in, we would always have a steady stream of people, men, women, children, babies who were suffering burns, injuries and shrapnel from the bombs that were constantly going off and bullets from quadcopters that were constantly targeting civilians. So this is the reality. It wasn't just GHF site injuries coming in. It was a constant flow of other types of injuries from bombs.
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Krystal
What does Gaza look like at this point?
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Dr. Ambereen Salimi
I had a limited view because of where I was, but it Looks utterly decimated. And I can. I can. We can all see pictures of what Gaza used to look like. It's available on the Internet. And it's. You cannot believe that the. The Gaza I saw and my colleagues saw was the Gaza of the videos from before. It looks utterly decimated. It looks like a wasteland. Almost all the buildings have been bombed, collapsed. And then in the middle of that, in these areas where civilians are supposed to live are just tents after tents after tents, like kilometers and kilometers and kilometers of tent cities everywhere. And these go basically up until the shore of the ocean, of the sea, up until the sea. And this is where people have been dislocated to after being told, you know, multiple times, three, four, five times throughout this genocide that they have to move, pack up their kids, pack up everything, take what you can, and quickly, very quickly leave and go to another tent site. And so that's. That's what I could tell you. It looks like now there was a balcony off of our accommodations in the hospital, because we all. We all lived in the hospital for our entire stay. It was a balcony, and it looked south towards Rafa. And I. I really think about the time when all eyes were on Rafa at the end of last year. And I will tell you, Rafa is flattened because you could see Rafah, and because it's flattened, you could see the Rafah crossing from the balcony, and the Rafah crossing right beyond that is where all the aid trucks were being blocked from coming in. So this is what you could see. You could also see in my four weeks there, the site even to the Mediterranean Sea, was also visible as more and more buildings were just collapsed while I was there, because, again, the Nasser hospital was in a red zone. And there was a time where we were really worried about our security. Once we had just gotten there a few days afterwards, where the hospital was under siege, there were tanks in the street right outside. There was a real fear in the hospital because the year prior, Nasser actually was invaded by the Israeli military and people were, you know, fled. Some people, healthcare workers and doctors were kidnapped, and some of whom still are being held. And we don't know exactly where. There's a graveyard right on the grounds of Nasser. They call it the graveyard, where bulldozers had come through, and there was a tent city there that was supposed to. To be a safe zone. And it was actually just bulldozed over by the Israeli military. And people found IV poles, people still attached to IV poles. Because you have to remember in. Especially in a hospital setting, you have people who have severe burns and bandaged amputations, they're in wheelchairs, they're weak, they're malnourished, they're starved, they cannot just evacuate, Right? So that just became a very huge graveyard, which is now, I wanted to.
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Crystal
Ask specifically about the starvation. You know, there's been a lot of debates in American media about the starvation. What we know is that a lot of people are entering stage five of malnutrition. And I was wondering if you could explain to our audience not only what your view is on the. From what you've seen in your experience, the extent of the starvation in Gaza, but also what it takes medically to save people that are at that level of malnutrition. Like, what would it actually take to medically save people at that point?
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Dr. Ambereen Salimi
So what I saw personally and what my colleagues were reporting is that there is, you know, a huge amount of malnourishment and starvation. And this is what we saw in our patients, all of our pregnant patients, the babies being born, like I said, and stage five. There is a point that you reach in starvation where you have to be very careful then about reintroducing food. So it's not just that you can start feeding people immediately at this point in starvation because there's such an imbalance in electrolytes and nourishment that it has to be done in a very careful way. So it's not just that you're letting in more beans and lentils and flour. You need to be letting in the proper nutrition. You need to be letting in magnesium and phosphate and all these electrolytes that have to be in the appropriate balance, otherwise the body system will actually, you end up in a coma. And this feeding, if it's not done properly, people will die from actually the refeeding. So that's a huge concern. It's not just letting in food aid, it's letting in nutritional balance and the right amount of balance so people don't die from being fed.
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Krystal
Doctor, the last question I had for you is let say that they open the floodgates for food and nutrition and medicine and everything that the population needs at this point. What will be the lifelong, what will be the lifelong consequences of those babies who were born suffering from malnutrition, these young children whose little bodies and brains are trying to grow and don't have nearly the caloric resources and nutrition to be able to do so, you know, even if you completely open the floodgates now, what does the fallout look like?
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Dr. Ambereen Salimi
Right? So I think that's such an important question. And thank you for bringing that up. I believe that there are many babies that were conceived and born at the beginning of, you know, from October 2023. And already again with those that are now 1 years old or even more, they're going to have long term effects from malnutrition. Just imagine the, you know, the stunting, the mental, mental growth, psychological trauma is going to be huge. And I'm not sure people are going to be ready to. But we have to be ready to be able to confront that and deal with that. Also the mental trial trauma that everybody, all populations are going to be suffering with, but also the starvation. I mean, we talk about when we take our kids to the pediatricians. They're looking for, you know, these very specific, you know, growth milestones. Right. And how worried they are about meeting these milestones. And nutritionally, everybody's got their growth weight. You know, if you have kids, you know, you're always looking at the growth chart and making sure our kids, kids are on that growth chart. But what it means when you don't hit those milestones are going to be long term effects to brain development, to physical development and also the psychological trauma and in particular kids. But adults too, you know, we can't forget about that. And I think it's going to be a very profound, profound impact that this siege, starvation and just the trauma of the bombings and the genocide is going to have on the population.
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Krystal
Yeah. Well, Doctor, thank you so much again for spending some time with us and sharing, you know, your, your testimony about what you witnessed. I think it is, comes at just such an absolutely critical moment and we're incredibly grateful to you for that.
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Dr. Ambereen Salimi
Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it.
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Krystal
It's our pleasure.
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Crystal
You, doctor. All right, well, that was Dr. Salimi. We're all very grateful for her coming on the show and for doctors like her who are risking their safety to go work over in what seems like hell on earth, to be honest.
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Krystal
Yeah. I have to say, people like her give me hope for humanity. I mean, the barbarism that we see unchecked on a daily basis makes me feel pretty dark about us as like a species sometimes. And. But then on the flip side of it, you see absolute angels like that woman who, you know, gave up a month of her life to go and be in a war zone in the worst conditions you can imagine at great physical and personal risk. And, you know, it's an extraordinary thing.
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Crystal
I also feel that way about Aguilar, who we had on the show this week.
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Krystal
Absolutely.
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Crystal
That gave me hope because it's like, you know, you think about, you know, these military guys, these army guys, but, like, you know, he never shot his gun the entire time he was there. He led with, you know, bravery and courage, and he's put a target on his back for what he has said on our show and on other shows. And, and he's just doing it because it's the right thing to do. So, yeah, I've definitely seen examples of that. Give me hope right now.
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Krystal
Yeah. We should mention Witkoff is actually in Gaza or was in Gaza for this, like, little propaganda stunt where they, oh, look, everything's going great. We're not shooting at people. Don't worry. We're not massacring Palestinians on a literal daily basis for no reason at all and then luring them into what, you know, Tony Aguilar called intentional death traps. So, you know, the just. I don't even know what you, what you say about it at this point. It's so. It's so dark and feels so, you know, like there's no end in sight, really.
- [60:56]
Sagar
I think it's also worth noting that Trump. This was a story that, that broke yesterday. Yesterday, Trump, in the Times of Israel was quoted as having told a donor. It's a total anonymously sourced story, but telling a donor that the MAGA base was turning against Israel, which is quite interesting. And then I'll share this. He was. Trump was taking questions from reporters yesterday and he ended up saying, right here. So sorry, I'm sharing my screen. He ended up saying, well, okay. He ended up saying, this is really meta. I'm stopping. I'm just going to read the quote. He ended up saying it was asked if he agrees with Marjorie Taylor Greene that there's a genocide in Gaza. Trump said, quote, oh, it's terrible what's occurring there. Yeah, it's a terrible thing. People are very hungry. And then he said, part of the problem is Hamas taking the money and food. So that's where Trump is. But it reminds me of even the.
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Krystal
Israelis say that's not true. I mean, that was the New York Times report they had. Israeli military officials would say that's just not true. I mean, we all know, like, we all know that's a total and complete lie. We just heard the doctors say, look, all the aid is lined up there at the border. They just won't let it through. You know, and that's the other thing that pisses me off about the pretext of the Wit Coffin visit is he Supposed to be there to like, study a plan for what we could do. It's like, you don't need to study a plan. The UN knows how to operate. Just let them operate and, you know, call off the Israelis so that they're not shooting at aid workers and are allowing them in from. From multiple crossings, by the way, too, because that's an issue if you just let in a few trucks through one crossing. Oh, yeah, guess what? A starving population is going to mount, mob those trucks immediately and grab whatever they can. Survival of the fittest style for aid.
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Crystal
Sites when there needs to be like 40 at least.
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Krystal
No, 400. That's what the UN was operating, was 400 aid sites. They had kitchens and bakeries throughout the entire Gaza Strip. And so, you know, the idea that you can. I mean, the intention of GHF was never to feed the population. That was never the intention. The intention of GHF is to weaponize military aid, to use it to create further displacement and misery all wrapped in this sort of like PR of, oh, look at us giving a bag of lentils to this starving child.
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Sagar
I was just saying the Trump comments remind me sort of similar to what we're seeing from Slotkin and the Mallory McMorra position that you mentioned, Crystal, which is this recognition that even among Republicans there is horror at what's happened over the course of particularly the last month. And that's frustrating to. People have been watching it for longer. But I think what we're seeing is that trickle into the political calculations in a way that it hasn't before. So it's becoming, it really is becoming Trump as now Christians who are very supportive of him. We covered Michael Knowles a couple of weeks ago, saying, you're losing me. And that was after the Catholic Church was hit. I listened to Eric Prince on Bannon show recently saying he thinks that it was intentionally targeted. The cross on top of the church he thought was intentionally targeted. And when you're losing Eric Prince, you have problems.
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Krystal
Pretty bad. Yeah, that's pretty bad. All right, should we go ahead and transition to the premium show guys and we can talk about. About the. The jobs numbers, the tariffs and the playlists list importantly.
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Sagar
Yes, of course. Before we do, just a note. Michael tracy over@mtracy.net wrote a piece rebutting what he took issue with from Nick Bryant, who Crystal and I interviewed on Wednesday, the guy who originally broke the Epstein Black book story. And Tracy has all kinds of. This is over at his subsect. Tracy has all kinds of critic criticisms of what Bryant said, but he particularly criticized, I actually think rightfully, a number that Bryant listed for human trafficking. And that's by the way, I will just say, as a evangelical, there's a lot of bad human trafficking stats that bounce around the religious world because, you know, it's. There are a lot of NGOs that work in that space and there are a lot of people who are genuinely concerned. But you know, these stats are so easy for, for.
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Crystal
Are you saying that there's an undercount or an overcount?
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Sagar
There are a lot of stats that overcount over, yes. So here's. I'm just going to read a bit from Tracy. He says, well, here he's. He's quoting a study that Bryant referred to or he thinks refers to.
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Krystal
He.
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Sagar
So he says this is the, this is what the study says. It is estimated that between 15,000 to 50,000 women and children are forced into sexual slavery in the US Every year. And the total number varies wildly, as is very difficult to research. One study from the DHS estimated the number between 240 and 325,000. Now I looked into that. Elizabeth Nolan Brown over at Reason has always forgotten, at least the last decade has done a lot of work going through those numbers. And so it's just worth noting you can take a look at her work. I went to the Department of Transportation, their estimate, they say in 2023, the National Human Trafficking Hotline received a total of 30,000 substantive signals nationwide and received reports of 9,9600 basically potential human trafficking cases, referencing 17,000 potential victims. So these numbers are sadly a political football. But Tracy wrote like a thousand word probably rebuttal to Nick Bryant that people can check out if they want.
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Krystal
All right, thanks for flagging that. And for those of you who want to hear about the jobs report, the tariffs, and also JD Vance's eyebrow raising Spotify playlist, along with. Who else do we have? Mike Johnson? There's one other.
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Sagar
Oh, we have Pam Bondi and I think Bondi's might be the worst.
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Krystal
I gotta take another look. I. There were some. Yeah, there were some questionable choices all the way around. But in any case, if you want to see all of that go to Breaking points dot com. Thank you guys so much for supporting us. You know, obviously it's been a very, very big week, very consequential week and you know, we're grateful for the opportunity to be able to do those things. So head over to break breakingpoints.com if you can to support us and for the premium members that rest of that show starts right now.
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