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Escalate to De-Escalate: The Strategy to Finish Iran Once and for All
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The Brian Kilmeade Show 05-21-2026
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Brian Kilmeade
From high atop FOX News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmeade, everyone.
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I hope you had a fantastic day on Wednesday. We're back in action now. 1-866-408-7669 this hour. James Langford will be joining us. Brett Baer will be with us. Alexi La A big announcement today. The broadcasters preview what will be probably a World cup preview. This is going to dominate for the next two months. And the World Cup's getting here. Lexi Lalas is the Charles Barkley, the lead analyst for all of soccer along with being a great player. And he's got a highlight reel of a documentary on the 94 team which he was a star on. So when they really did extremely well in the World cup, they'll do better this time. I hope so. A lot going on, including some movement on the Iran war. So let's get to the big three.
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Maureen Galindo
Number three, if you are a Zionist, meaning that you believe that you are just entitled to land based off of religious beliefs and that you'll kill all of the Semites for it, then yeah, I think that you're a danger to humanity and belong in prison.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah. Maureen Garlino, Maureen Galindo on the latest deranged demons. It's unbelievable, the anti Semitism. It's a global problem. But here in the US The Dems are the main problem, even though there are some on the extreme right raging anti Semites running for office. And it doesn't seem like people like Chuck Schumer, who is Jewish, want to straighten anything out in their own house.
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Jeff Bezos
Number two, what's happening here is politicians are using the kind of age old technique. So there's this tale of two economies and they're using this age old technique of, you know, picking a vill villain and pointing fingers.
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Brian Kilmeade
All right, Jeff Bezos weighing in. The rich attack back finally. And as socialists get a reality check and begin to walk back some of their vilification of success, Bezos is among the many who have had enough. Number one here in the final stages of Iran. We'll see what happens. We'll either have a deal or we're gonna do some things that are a little bit nasty. I don't believe that won't happen. That is President Trump. So here we go. First, we're getting a little bit testy with Bibi Netanyahu where the president United States wants to finish off Iran. Should he? Should we wait and talk? I think that would be a big mistake. Now we have The Supreme Leader, according to Reuters, say we're never giving up our uranium. Mr. President, what are we talking about then? We cannot not go back if they don't give up uranium now. We cannot go back if they say we're going to enrich uranium, we cannot go back unless they take it out of the. We take it out of the country. We cannot go back if they're going to hold on to the strait, we have to go back. I'm not sure what's going on. I know the President's posturing when he says we have plenty of time, we don't. So I just talked to General Jack Keane and I think he's let down. And I think, because nobody loves war, but it's the better alternative for overall, the Middle east and, of course, here at home. And you cannot leave a wounded Iran to rebuild, thanks to Russia and thanks to China. And they'll say we held off. America cut four.
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General Jack Keane
And we all know that President Trump is what I refer to as the backstop. He's not going to take a bad deal. He's not going to accept something that doesn't meet his objectives. My point is, I don't think there's any chance these guys are going to put something on the table. It's been six weeks. That's going to accept it. And let's get on with what we need to do and finish this once and for all with the reality that there are political issues out there. I'm not dismissive of them, that there are economic issues. Let's get it over with, you know, so we can get the oil prices back down and take some of the pressure off politically.
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Brian Kilmeade
And that's it. I'm saying some have to escalate to de. Escalate. And that's the story. I mean, essentially, the public opinion says they think we're winning the war, but, you know, only 40% are in support. Support of it. Well, that's typical. But you just got to show him the light of the end of the tunnel, explain it and win. That's the key. So here's what the speaker of the House says of Iran. Our powerful military forces have used this opportunity of the ceasefire in the best possible way to rebuild our military and strength with the grace of God and the support of the people. You don't have the support of the people. You haven't rebuilt the military. You've exposed a lot of it. And we're about to destroy you if given the opportunity. So we'll talk about that. I'm so glad the COVID of the New York Post today has a big pushback on socialists. But it can't just come from politicians. It's gotta come from the business sector. And we have this socialist in Seattle, this Katie Wilson. Got the socialist in New York City, Zo Ramamdani. We got a socialist congressman now that just won the primary, likely to win it all in Philadelphia. We have a socialist in the running for the Senate seat occupied by Senator Susan Collins in Maine. And now we hear that the problem is the rich don't give enough to pay enough taxes. We know that's a joke. The top 1% pay 40% of all the taxes. Top 7, top 10% play 70% plus of all taxes. Among those people is Jeff Bezos. I've never met him. Okay, don't. Might be a great guy, might not hear good things about him. I just know that he was born to a single, a teenage mom and a working class dad, brought up in a rugged household, was able to rise to Wall street, become a vice president, give it all up for this idea which we now know as Amazon, because one of the most successful companies in the world, and he's on the cusp of being a trillionaire. You know what? I love it. You know who doesn't love it? Socialists don't love it. They don't think it's right. Well, do you know that Jeff Bezos just gave $150 million to childhood development in New York City? And now you might have people with a big heart and wonderful empathy and sympathy, but they don't have that money. But the people that are successful like to give back. They supply almost all the money for all the charities and they've had it with being marginalized or people saying their success is because they stole from other people. Like AOC said, cut 24.
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Judge Roy K. Altman
You're talking about two of the most radical candidates in the history of the world.
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Brian Kilmeade
No, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Cut 21.
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Jeff Bezos
What's happening here is politicians are using the kind of age old technique, so there's this tale of two economies, and they're using this age old technique of, you know, picking a villain and pointing fingers. But the problem is that doesn't solve anything. And so, like, if you want to help the group of people who are struggling, you have to figure out real root causes and solutions.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, that'll be interesting, wouldn't it? Find out the solutions. The one thing he said is, I look at New York City, 44 billion for their education system. They're paying per pupil. $44,000. And the results are abysmal. The test scores are decreasing. The money is not going to make teachers rich. It's not 30%. They're paying 30% more per pupil and overall for their education system with a decreasing enrollment than any other major city. And now you think Jeff Bezos is the problem? You want to throw more money at that problem? Are you an idiot? Do you have really zero business acumen? Any economic knowledge at all? You think they're the problem? Jeff Bezos, cut 22 people sometimes say
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Jeff Bezos
that, you know, I don't pay taxes. So true. I pay billions of dollars in taxes and it's a perfect again, if people want me to pay more billions, right, then let's have that debate. But don't pretend you know that this, that that's going to solve the problem. You could, you could double the taxes I pay. And it's not going to help that teacher in Queens.
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Brian Kilmeade
It's not. And guess what Mamdani puts back on Twitter? Zoran, Madame says, I know a few teachers in Queens who would beg to differ. It doesn' go to their pockets. It goes to the bureaucracy. And there's no people that you don't pay. For example, if there's not an incentive, if there's not more of a deconstruction and rebuilding of our, our educational system, just like if Amazon wasn't working, you'd have to strip it down and build it. Right. Or it goes out of business. You would put the, our education system out of business. And you don't go ahead and say, well, you know those people giving money, the problem is they're not giving enough money. And since when has success been a bad thing? What's fascinating is Mondami suddenly meeting with the CEO of JP Morgan, the CEO of Goldman Sachs. And now you have this Katie Wilson walking back earlier comments about being her anti Starbucks comments. As concerns grow that the coffee giant is about to shift its footprint away from Seattle. Wilson previously joined striking Starbucks baristas baristas and encouraged them not to buy from the company. She has now acknowledged that her comments may have been counterproductive and could hurt Seattle's business reputation. You think Seattle's council member Robert Sacca, a Democrat who initially welcomed Wilson's leadership, has expressed concern about the possible of business a business exodus. You think Starbucks is still tied to Seattle, but its Nashville expansion is being viewed by critics as a warning sign about the city's business climate. In Goldman Sachs, they're spreading out to Miami. They say they're going to have a presence here, but they're not bringing people here. And in JP Morgan, they have more people in Dallas. When are the Democrats going to wake up? They're actually letting this midterm election be about socialism versus capitalism, free markets versus socialism, vilifying success, saying they're criminals and they're going to stick with this unless somebody speaks up. You're seeing the socialists who have to balance the checkbook suddenly walk this back. Mandami hasn't. He keeps up with the rhetoric and keeps up with the supermarkets that are going to be city run, which means they take your taxpayer dollars, they buy the food and sell it for less. That's not, that's dumb. That's socialism. That's Cuba. So you listen to Brian. Kill me, Joe. James Lankford, the bottom of the hour. And then we have Brett Baer. Brett Baer as well.
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From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Kilmeade.
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Hey, we are back and in studios, Alexi Lalas not only talking about the World cup in 2026, but the one in 94. And that's the first time I was doing sports solidly at that time. And they said, Brian, you could pick two beats. Pick it. We want you to dominate it. Everyone's picking baseball and football. I picked boxing and soccer and was perfect because the World cup was launching and the MLS was the next year. And the biggest name is Lexi Laos.
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Doug Schonest
Timing.
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Brian Kilmeade
I know. And now he's Fox Sports lead soccer analyst. And I'm so glad we got you out of espn. Those were dark years. Right. But now you're.
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Alexi Lalas
Everybody has to do a little time at espn.
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Josh Krasnower
Right?
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Brian Kilmeade
But that's when Fox grabbed you. And that was great. So I know there's going to be a big announcement. Tape broadcasting wise. Right. What's the pressure today?
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Alexi Lalas
Well, we got the, the roster show coming up on Tuesday.
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Brian Kilmeade
Tuesday, I'll be there.
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Alexi Lalas
Yeah, we got.
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Brian Kilmeade
Oh, you're going to be there. I'll be there.
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Alexi Lalas
You know, I was, we were talking earlier, I mean my power rankings of hosts over there. You're Creeping up there, buddy?
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Brian Kilmeade
Am I?
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Senator James Lankford
Yeah.
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Josh Krasnower
Yeah.
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Brian Kilmeade
Because I was asking, Alexei, who's your favorite host here? You wouldn't commit to putting me number one?
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Alexi Lalas
No, no, you're not number one yet.
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Brian Kilmeade
Oh, no.
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Alexi Lalas
So as long as it's something to work for.
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Brian Kilmeade
Right? Okay. All right.
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Alexi Lalas
Speaking of working towards things, obviously three weeks out from the. The World cup, we are, I'm running back and forth across the country. We have the, the roster show that's coming up next week, all sorts of promotion. We just keep adding people when it comes to our team for this summer with Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Chicharito, Javier Hernandez, wonderful Mexican.
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Brian Kilmeade
They'll be on the desk.
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Alexi Lalas
Yeah, they'll be in and out. Obviously, people that you've seen before, the Carli Lloyds and Landon Donovans and Stu Holden's and, oh, not for nothing, Thierry Henry. And so the list goes on and on and on. So you're going to get that international flavor as we cover the biggest World cup in history with 104 games and 48 teams.
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Brian Kilmeade
The top five teams in the world, you got, you know, France. Yeah, yeah, you have your safe bets
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Alexi Lalas
are France and Spain. Okay. I would put Argentina in there, except they are trying to repeat and the last team to repeat was 58 and 62 with Brazil. So, you know, history is not on their side.
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Brian Kilmeade
Is this a down year for Brazil?
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Alexi Lalas
Yes, this is. Well, they're still Brazil for them. There's still Brazil. It's down for them.
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Brian Kilmeade
Okay.
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Alexi Lalas
There's not a lot of expectation on Brazil, which actually kind of makes me intrigued and maybe I guess should scare some people where there's less expectation, but it's still Brazil.
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Brian Kilmeade
So you look at the US's top 15.
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Alexi Lalas
Yeah.
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Brian Kilmeade
Okay. And when you guys in 94, you guys were as high as like 8 or 10.
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Alexi Lalas
Not in 94. I don't think we were. I mean, look, the reality.
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Brian Kilmeade
96. Yeah, but.
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Alexi Lalas
But the reality is that when it comes to the men's side of the game, obviously we're world champions on the women's side. When it comes to the men's side of the game, we are yet to be in that elite group, but we're not far away. But it's sometimes the hardest, you know, thing to do is to make up that last little bit. Also a reminder, only eight countries in history have ever won a World Cup. So that is a very elite type of teams like the Netherlands, teams like Portugal never won a World Cup.
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Brian Kilmeade
So I want you to hear the coach. I really, really intrigued because he seems to be very pro American. Trying to get that nationalistic feeling with the team that you're playing for your nation. Here is Mauricio Punchettino.
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Alexi Lalas
Ponchettino.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, Ponchetino. Cut 46. You see the cultural diversity of America. And also, I guess, to.
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Josh Krasnower
No, I am in love.
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Brian Kilmeade
I am in love with USA and the culture and. And the cities and every single, you
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Judge Roy K. Altman
know, place we really enjoy with the people.
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General Jack Keane
I think Nashville was amazing.
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Brian Kilmeade
St. Louis was amazing. Until today game. I seen, I don't know, Minneapolis, Chicago, New York. So he's talking about playing around the country, and the fans are all in, and he's trying to get the team to understand. You gotta come together and do something extraordinary for the nation, but they don't know each other as well as you guys did.
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Alexi Lalas
Yeah, I mean, we trained for two years, basically, as a club team. Train every single day. We can't do that in today's world. And if you want, you know, a graphic illustration of that, this weekend, Summer of 94, the documentary, you'll be able to see it on Fox. It lays out that whole story.
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Brian Kilmeade
So here's a clip from that. It's summer 94, when Lexi was the stopper on the national team. Cut 44. Hit it. U.S. soccer called with this asinine idea that they were gonna put a national
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Senator James Lankford
team
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Brian Kilmeade
and we were gonna live as a club team. It's like the Bad News Bears. This was Groundhog Day every single day. We had no respect around the world. We knew what we were capable of, and we were just waiting on our moment. I thought all of these hopes and dreams that we had.
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Alexi Lalas
What if we screwed up soccer forever?
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Brian Kilmeade
But you didn't.
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Alexi Lalas
No, we didn't. We got out of the group, and soccer continued on. But there was a pressure in the summer of 94 to make sure that we did well for the future of the game. And, you know, you looked at it as pressure, but I think we all looked at it also as opportunity.
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Brian Kilmeade
You got out of your group.
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Alexi Lalas
Yep.
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Brian Kilmeade
And that means everyone's guaranteed three games.
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Alexi Lalas
Yeah. So you play in group stage.
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Brian Kilmeade
There's groups of four.
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Alexi Lalas
You're guaranteed three. And just getting out of the group was an accomplishment for where we were at that moment. Now this summer, it's completely different. You should expect this team. And I'm not grumpy old manning this thing by any stretch of the imagination. I think it's fair. And I don't think that I'm being idealistic when I say that this US Team should. Should be given or should come out of the group because they have been given absolutely everything from a young age. And it warms the cockles of my red headed American heart. I love it. I don't begrudge them that at all. It means progress. It means we've evolved. But with that comes higher expectations. So you should expect this US Team, with all of the talent that they have, all the opportunities that they've been given, to finish first in this group. And then we go into this new round of 32 knockout stage, and if we finish first in our group, we're going to play, you know, a team that's not as good as us and that's kind of very, very different than anything we've had.
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Brian Kilmeade
And you have the second place team with a wild card team and another.
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Alexi Lalas
Yeah. Third place. Some third place teams are coming through, so there's no excuses. We would really have to work to screw this up. I'm not putting it past them, but you should expect this team to come out of the group at the very least. And I. I'm expecting this team to win this.
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Brian Kilmeade
There's a great spot out there about what if the men win the World Cup? And here's the last six seconds of it because Aruzioni is in the back and said it is possible. Cut 49. You think the US is gonna win the World Cup? It could happen. Never gonna happen.
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Alexi Lalas
What, you don't believe in miracles?
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Brian Kilmeade
I love David's kid. What do you think?
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Alexi Lalas
I loved it. You know, Michael Ruzziani, I mean, I grew up.
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Brian Kilmeade
You remember that team?
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Yeah.
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Alexi Lalas
I mean, it's just part of who you were as an American. Because it was in that moment something that people didn't believe could happen. And it happened. All right, I will say this. If the US Men's soccer team were to win the World cup, It would be 10 times the accomplishment of the miracle.
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Brian Kilmeade
Then a bunch of college kids beating the Soviet Union.
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Judge Roy K. Altman
Oh, my God.
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Senator James Lankford
Oh, yeah.
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Alexi Lalas
It would be so much more of an accomplishment, as great as that was. But you got, you know, you got to believe to be able to do something like that.
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Brian Kilmeade
It's in America.
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Alexi Lalas
It's America.
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Brian Kilmeade
Lexi, Laos. Thank you.
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Alexi Lalas
You're the best.
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Brian Kilmeade
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Rachel Campos Duffy
You said yesterday you're about an hour away from making a decision.
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Brian Kilmeade
Where does that stand today?
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Rachel Campos Duffy
Have you Heard anything from them.
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Brian Kilmeade
Very right on the borderline. Believe me, if we don't get the right answers, it goes very quickly. We're all ready to go. We have to get the right answers. It would have to be a complete 100% good answers. And if we do, we save a lot of time, energy and lives. Most importantly, I just don't see it. And the Reuters report today that the Supreme Leader says they're going to keep their uranium. What are you supposed to say now? The White House pushed back and say no, they, they're going to have a third party take it out. Okay, I don't get it. So I mean, you can't push back on what they put out. As the Supreme Leader, he might not like what the Supreme Leader put out, but the White House pushed back on what the Supreme Leader said. So I don't know what to say to that. Maybe Brett Baier does. Chief political anchor, Fox News Anchor, anchor, special report. He also has his bestselling book, the Case for America, an argument on behalf of Our Nation available right now. I think it's number one in the country now. So. So Bret, where are we at with these negotiations? The president said progress is being made and what do you hear?
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Brett Baier
I'm with you. I don't fully understand how that's an answer that is at all acceptable. And the president keeps saying we're ready to go, we're ready to go. Well, if this is true and it's being not just Reuters but other places saying that the Supreme Leader is saying the highly enriched uranium needs to stay in the country, that's a non starter for the US or at least it was. And you know, one would think that we are into a weekend or early next week resumption of military activity, you know, but there's, there's complications here. You've got an AUMF vote up on the Hill, authorization for the use of military force that now has Republicans that are signing on. It's not just Thomas Massie on the Senate side. Cassidy, who lost his primary in Louisiana is now flipped his vote and you know, you start looking at numbers and you know the administration could face something from Congress on military force authorization.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, I know. I just think that when you go, I thought Cassidy did a good job. Yeah, I understand. I'm not the one who got impeached. Would they try to impeach in 2020? It was President Trump. But I understand Massie, I don't understand primary and Cassidy, especially when he greenlighted RFK as a doctor. That must not have been easy, but he did. So that makes him and Tillis no longer a guaranteed vote. And same thing with Cornyn when you go for Paxson, don't you think?
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Josh Krasnower
I agree.
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Brett Baier
You know, that's obviously not done because it's still hanging in the balance. But yeah, that endorsement doesn't make it easy. I think Texas is probably something that we don't know how it's going to pan out really. But one would think a Trump endorsement is pretty significant in Texas.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah. I just hope Cornyn still pulls it out because he's a, he also is a fundraising machine and he is extremely well liked on Capitol Hill and he's just a great person, great individual. And by the way, anyone who says he's anti gun or vote for gun restrictions, look at that piece of legislation. All he was saying was background checks on military people before they leave because of after that church shooting of a veteran. He shouldn't have had a gun. And that's what he's trying to prevent. But we'll, I digress. Talking about this, I want you to hear.
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Brett Baier
Yeah, I mean listen, he was a judge.
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Josh Krasnower
He was also.
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Brett Baier
And, and there's all kinds of questions about Paxton's, you know, ability to get past his past in the general election versus Talarico.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah. And by the way, it's heard it's gonna get wor of what's going to be exposed. So let's talk the Iran. What's next? What is one of the reasons you think that America would not go back? Would you mention, Brett, that part of it maybe the other part is our Arab allies that were targeted by Iran. This is what Ben Tableau said from the he's senior director of the foundation for defense of democracies cut 8. I think the UAE, Qatar and Saudi Arabia have different reasons for in the short term coming to the same conclusion. You know, the UAE is probably the front lines of this thing. They were hit more than Israel in this conflict and they continue to be struck by Iranian drones, just like Saudi Arabia, but more so from Iran backed Shia militias there. So the UAE might want to buy time for diplomacy so that America and Israel can help build up. The Saudis might want to buy time for diplomacy to see if this new regional order based on Turkey, Egypt, Saudi and Pakistani mediation can take shape. And the Qataris might want more mediation for the sake of mediation because they might have an ultimately more accommodationist posture towards Iran despite many of their gas facilities being hit. So I understand they have their own interest, but it is in their Interest to make sure that Iran doesn't come off looking like the perceived victor in this. And I'm pretty sure somebody's getting to the President to not go ahead and finish them off.
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Brett Baier
Yeah, I think that's probably true. And they do all have different motivations, but I think the UAE is, you know, on the front lines here. I mean look at those numbers of missiles and drones and attacks that they've suffered. I think that, you know, they've already engaged inside Iran and that was a big step for the UAE to do so. I don't know, I think if I had to put money on it, I think we probably are going back to some kinetic action by the weekend.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, I was talking to General Jack Keane and somebody else who I don't think he's. I consider it optimistic. I don't like war. Nobody likes, no sane person likes war. But if the alternative is allowing Iran to control the strait and keep the uranium, that is not a good alternative. And I know the President would not want to do a deal that's not perceived better than the JCPOA that he rightly trashed when he got in, got there in 28, 2016.
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Brett Baier
Right, yeah, I think that that's a non starter and you know there's some of the things that were being talked about. Clearly we're getting close, closer to the JCPOA and I think, you know, the missiles, the funding of terrorist proxies, that's all part of this. But mainly it's the straits and getting the enriched uranium.
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Brian Kilmeade
So Brett, what was it like when your book went. So in case people don't know, you gotta get especially with July 4th coming, the case for America, an argument on behalf of our nation and what I think it does, you arm people at their barbecue that they go into this weekend and on July 4th with the case. So instead of just saying, well you just think everything America does is great, you break it down through the eyes of some of the most impactful people in America today.
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Brett Baier
Yeah, thanks. I mean I think that that's what it is. It's a blueprint. It's not a sugar coated look at it or a rose colored glasses. I mean you look at the mistakes we've as a country that some of them so big that it would have crushed weaker nations. But this 250, Brian, I think is an opportunity and you know, history to look back and a 30,000 foot look at how, you know this country is a great place to be. It's kind of like the shared love, you know when you have an athlete at the Olympics and gets the gold medal and the flag goes up and the national anthem plays and the athlete's crying and you're watching on TV and you get a lump in your throat, and the guy next to you is watching gets a lump in his throat. Now, you could be totally different politically on very every issue, but that moment is a shared love of the country. And I think that July 4th provides that ability. And this book is kind of a blueprint for that.
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Brian Kilmeade
And I'll feel that way if the US Wins the World cup and you feel that way when the US Wins the Ryder Cup. So that's where we so go out and pick it up. It's a case for America, an argument on behalf of our nation. Brett, thanks so much. All right, you got it. All right, we come back. Senator James Lankford has a way and a movement now that both sides are signing on to to end government shutdowns. Don't we agree on that? Back in a moment.
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It's Brian Kilmade, A radio show like no other. It's Brian Kilmeade.
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As the President said, if we'll be asked to go back into kinetic activity with the United States side by side, shoulder to shoulder, wing to wing, we're
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General Jack Keane
ready to do it.
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Brian Kilmeade
We consider ourselves your model ally and junior partner. What the President decides will fall in line. And that is a great guy. And he is Ambassador Leider to the U.S. israeli ambassador to the U.S. and says, look, we'll fall in line. Because on Tuesday, the Jerusalem Post wrote that there was a heated phone call or a dramatic phone call between the President and Bibi Netanyahu. My hunch is the president says we're gonna wait. Netanyahu says this is the perfect time to go back. There's a lot at stake economically, politically, not really for Israel in some respects, but we have the same objectives. Don't let anyone tell you that there's a divide between the two. I mean, they have more of a focus on Lebanon and Gaza, obviously, because it affects them directly. But the people that fund it all are the Iranians, and the people that cause in the middle of the Middle east unrest are the Iranians. It's no longer, you can say Syria and Iraq, they have been eliminated. You can't say there's terrorists in Saudi Arabia. They're out. It's out of the curriculum. There might be terrorists there, but that is no longer supported by the. By the governing family, certainly not by the prince. The problem is Iran. And the question is, what should we do. Next, let's head Senator James Lankford. He's Homeland Security, Intelligence and Finance. Senator, your thoughts about where we're at right now?
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Senator James Lankford
Yeah, we're trying to be able to get Iran to just behave as strange as that sounds, not promote terrorism, not have a nuclear weapon. Clearly this is a regime that is focused on trying to cause some cataclysmic worldwide event because they believe that that will actually lead to their empowerment across the world. So they can't have a nuclear weapon, they can't continue to promote terrorism. They got to open up the Strait of Hormuz. Those are not unrealistic things. And the President's trying to apply economic pressure right now with the threat of military pressure to get them to move. I think it's the right thing to be able to do. Takes some time to be able to apply that, but it works.
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Brian Kilmeade
But do you think that the time, economically it's not on our side, even if militarily because of the price of gas. Right. And the price of energy and how it affects inflation or else you guys, the economy would really be humming. And the economy's solid in growth, but energy sector isn't. So you have a military that's armed up even further, higher at a higher rate around the whole region than it was in the start of the original conflict. And if they don't come to the table, Senator, how long do you think we give them?
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Senator James Lankford
Yeah, that's the great unknown. Think about the pressure on the Iranians right now. They've had three months that they've had their Internet shut down in their entire country because their terrified of their own people talking to each other. So that means no small business, no online activity. All of those businesses that typically operate with online. Think about that in America. It's the same thing there in Iran. They're all collapsing. All of those family owned business, small businesses, e commerce businesses, they can't get their oil out, they can't get cargo in and out. The Iranian economy is rapidly collapsing as well right now. And so the pressure point is how do you actually push Iran to say, say uncle? And we're not looking for you to do anything radical. We're looking for you to stop terrorism, not have a nuclear weapon open the Strait of Hormuz. That is not any different than anybody else in the entire region. So give on that one. So the hard part for us is how long can Americans put up with the pressure of high gas prices, high diesel prices, which are affecting the price of everything to get a long term gain of not having an Iran attacking Americans, as you know. Well, Iran's been attacking Americans for decades over and over again. The President's just trying to say, you're going to stop attacking us.
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Brian Kilmeade
So, Senator, how many Republicans are no longer supporting the President and will vote to enact the War Powers act that says no more bombing after 60 days? And we don't buy the delay. It looks like Murkowski, Collins, would it be Tillis and now Cassidy and possibly Cornyn voting against it?
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Senator James Lankford
Oh, I even heard a hint from Cornyn on that. Cornyn understands full well, and he's solidly not only with the President and aligned with the President, but also understands the threat from Iran as well. So I don't, I don't pick that up at all from Cornyn on it. The other four have all said, hey, we've got big questions. The President needs to do it. So literally, the Senate is tied 50, 50 right now on this issue with federal, one with federal. And that's right, because Fetterman's actually voting with, with the Republicans. So with this tie, 50, 50 now, we can't lose one more Republican on it.
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Brian Kilmeade
I mean, you actually tie the President. Would they actually tie the President's hands and say, you can't bomb and give Iran the victory? Do you think Democrats want that? And you think these other Republicans want that?
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Senator James Lankford
Democrats hate Trump so much they'd be willing to give Iran the victory?
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Brian Kilmeade
And what if he went forward anyway and challenged at the same time? You send your Solicitor General to say, I think the War Powers act is unconstitutional.
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Senator James Lankford
Yeah, yeah. Ultimately, by the way, I agree with that. The War Powers Act, I think, is unconstitutional if it ever gets challenged. I think the President has the authority to, to be able to defend Americans. But ultimately Congress always, without question, constitutionally has the power of the purse. So eventually the Pentagon runs out of money at this point and says they can't fight the war until Congress allocates them additional dollars. That's the real pinch point that we come down to, is we've got to be able to resupply the missiles that have been shot and the defensive pieces that have been done for the United States. But if they're going to continue the war, ultimately that has to go back to Congress. We're probably several months away from that. But that's the real moment there, that there's no question constitutionally where both bodies have got to get together and resolve this.
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Brian Kilmeade
All right, so Senator James Lankford is pushing for a bill that would fast track to prevent government shutdown act and you believe that you have Democratic support to no longer give the legislature, the Senate, the power to shut down the government. How do you do it?
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Senator James Lankford
Yeah, we had 57 votes for this last time this came up. We're pushing to get the additional Democrat votes on board to make sure we keep all of our Republicans on board to end government shutdowns forever. They're always dumb. So we've got to be able to end these. This has been a priority for the president as well to be able to end government shutdowns. The focus of it is pretty simple. We get to the end of a time that we don't have our appropriations work done then immediately. All government agencies are funded at current year levels, but members of Congress have to stay in session seven days a week. We can't move to anything else other than appropriations until we actually finish our appropriation works. Brian, as simple as I can make it is if you don't finish your work during class, you got to stay after class until it's actually done. You can leave. So that's a pretty simple, straightforward way to be able to do that. It puts the pressure where it needs to be on members of Congress, takes the pressure off TSA workers and FBI folks and folks working at the border and folks working for hud. Those folks should not have to feel the burden of this. It should be members of Congress that feel the burden of it saying, you have to stay in session seven days a week until this gets done. By the way, senators have already voted to where we don't get paid if government workers are not getting paid. That's already a resolved issue. And so I had folks say, well, that's enough, just cut off your pay as well. I was like, a lot of folks I work with are millionaires. They're not thinking about their congressional pay on it. They are thinking about time. If you lose your time, that's a very big issue.
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Brian Kilmeade
True. You're not with your family, you're not doing other things. So center. This is brilliant and people should know that. You did get your work done in January. You did regular, you got all it done through the committees from the House. You went in the Senate, you got together and you came up and through committee and then to a floor vote, you actually did it and Democrats were coming. Well, I thought we work well together. And then what happened? The DHS after Minneapolis, they decide not to fund it. You're back to another shutdown again.
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Josh Krasnower
Again.
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Senator James Lankford
Yep, that's exactly right. That's exactly right. And that's what we want to avoid. And if we get to that moment again, why are TSA workers not being paid? Why are Coast Guard not being paid? That makes absolutely no sense at all. They need to continue to be paid while we stay in session seven days a week until we actually get it resolved. So force everybody to stay in the same room. Quite frankly, when my older brother and I used to have an argument at the house, my mom would say, get out of the living room, go to your room. You guys argue this out. When you're done, then you can come back with the rest of the family. That's basically really all this is, is what my mom taught me, just applying it to Congress.
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Brian Kilmeade
So where is it at in terms of where when are you gonna have a vote? And does the House have to weigh in on this too? Right?
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Senator James Lankford
Yeah, they do. Yep. House incentive has to weigh in together. So we're working with Tom Cole, the chairman of appropriations in the House, with Jody Arrington, who's the chairman of budget in the House. They're running it. It's a bipartisan bill in the House, exact same text. We're running it in the Senate trying to be able to run parallel lines to be able to get this done.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah. The problem is I also they wanted to shut down again in the fall in order to stop you guys from the economy going well. But this would stop that, right? We got to get this vote. Senator, I'm so glad you're doing this. And that would just take one, one thing off the table that really hurts the country. Thanks so much, Senator.
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Senator James Lankford
You bet. Thanks, Brian.
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Brian Kilmeade
From the FOX News radio studios in midtown Manhattan. It's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmeade,
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thanks so much for being here, everybody. I come to you from New York City from 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan, around the country and around the world. This hour, Rachel Kappa Stuffy is going to be with US celebrating America's 250 inside politics with Josh Crash, our Fox News radio political analyst, editor in chief of the Jewish Insider. With anti Semitism raging around the country, country and keep in mind too, I got this great YouTube page going. Everybody's talking about it. YouTube.com Hebrian Kilmeade show and keep in mind, in a matter of two weeks used to seem so far away. I'll be in Reno, Nevada with history, liberty and laughs. I'll bring history to life and it's time to celebrate this country. I'll do it through my six history books and two sports books. And then of course, on July 11th in Pensacola, Florida and then get set for the launch of my book Uniting the States that's coming out in the fall. So let's get to the big three.
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Maureen Galindo
Number three, if you are a Zionist, meaning that you believe that you are just entitled to land based off of religious beliefs and that you'll kill all of the Semites for it, then yeah, I think that you're a danger to humanity and belong in prison and I
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Brian Kilmeade
think you're a danger to the country. That is a congresswoman, an aspiring congresswoman in Texas who wants to get the Democratic nomination. Deranged anti Semitism. It's a global problem. But here in the US another leading Dem turns out to be a raging anti Semite. You just heard it. When will the Dems straighten out their own house?
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Jeff Bezos
Number two, what's happening here is politicians are using the kind of age old technique, so there's this tale of two economies and they're using this age old technique of, you know, picking a villain and pointing fingers.
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Brian Kilmeade
That is Jeff Bezos. I am so glad the rich are attacking back. Finally, as socialists get a reality check and begin to walk back there vilification of success. Jeff Bezos of Amazon is among the many who have had enough. Number one, here in the final stages of Iran, we'll see what happens. We'll either have a deal or we're going to do some things that are a little bit nasty. I definitely got one happening. Yeah, first in, first in with Bibi. First there was a little bit of a battle with Bibi and it looks like Trump will hold off on finishing off Iran. That would be a big mistake. Unless they say come get the uranium, we will not enrich and we're opening up the strait in turn. If you want to go release over the 400 billion that we have frozen 25 billion or something like that, okay, that means you're serious. But Reuters is reporting the Supreme Leader came out and said we're going to enrich and we're going to hold on to the uranium we have. If that's the case, there is no way it's anything but backing down. And that's a huge problem. That's actually almost as bad as never taking Iran on at all. And I know it was a difficult decision for the President and he does see the polls, but keep in mind it's may and one of the best things he could do for the polls is be victorious in Iran and be successful and achieve his goals in Iran. I talked to Jack Keane today on Fox and Friends and here's what he had to say.
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General Jack Keane
My problem with the deal here is that we leave Iran bruised but intact, and they'll walk away from here citing and convincing themselves that they got the United States to back down. And as a result of that, we extend a lifeline to the regime for sure. For them to do what? To recover?
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Brian Kilmeade
Yes. So Jack's in constant conversation with the President. All he could do is offer advice as being probably the most respected person in the military. Here's more of what he said. Cut 51 in the deal.
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General Jack Keane
The unfrozen assets are about 100 billion. It's likely we're going to take some part of that and give that to them up front and also reduce some of the sanctions. And certainly we're going to monitor their behavior. But nonetheless, it is a lifeline to the regime. Regime that extends them for years to come. The next administration is going to wind up having to deal with them. That's not where we started. Remember, we started to weaken this regime, to devastate and take away their capabilities to be a predator in the region, support the proxies for sure, and obviously not have any nuclear capability whatsoever, and reduce this ballistic missile program quite substantially. And the idea was to weaken the regime?
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Brian Kilmeade
That was the idea. And the President's well on his way. And it took a lot of guts to do, and there were people like the Vice President who didn't want him to do it. And the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff has a plan to do it. Now, should that plan have included really securing the strait first, perhaps? Doesn't matter. People make mistakes all the time. So it's how you correct and bounce back. Every war, every battle, big and small, there's always calculations and there's risk and reward, and that's open. And now you have the Iranians charging tolls and setting up a criteria. If you're China or Russia, you get through no toll. And if you're Israel, you're never getting through. Or us. Fine, we'll make our own wake. But this is international waters. The precedent would be bad. Even China pointed it out. China had one of their ships shot up and another one was boarded by the Iranians, and it's their best ally in the world. And finally, here's more from my last cut from the interview with Jack Keane.
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General Jack Keane
Where we are now is we can't seem to get a deal. I think we need to go back to where we started from, renew our commitment to the original goals of the regime and conduct this combined operation with the Israelis and the United States. We're at full magazine depth. We have exquisite intelligence over the last six weeks of what we need to do and where we need to do it. And the attacks are going to be quite devastating in terms of reducing their capabilities for the future.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah. And that's what we got to do. And this is not about ego. This is not about imperialism. This is not about focusing at home. This is absolutely everything to do with our security. And if we could get a somewhat compliant Iran, no control compliant, we could shift our assets more the Pacific in other areas. And guess who realizes that? Russia and China. And guess who will try to keep us there? Russia and China. Now the FOX News opinion polls thinks we're winning 60%. But most people feel as though we shouldn't be there. That's why it is important that we end this thing the right way. Saudi Arabia on Wednesday urged Iran to make a deal to avoid further escalation. Iran has threatened it would escalate in new ways and widen the war should it happen again. Well, we've had six weeks to get protection for the desalinization plants and different energy plants in Qatar, in uae, Bahrain, Oman, if you, if you will. But I don't think they'll be targeted in Saudi Arabia. My goodness. How much more time do you need? So that's where we stand. I'll keep you up to date on what's going on. The president's guys, I'm going to wait, but he's not going to turn around the economy unless we come up with some type of answer. We do know this is a big day for the economy. I do know something else, and that is that there's this huge anti Semitism rising up in our country and most of it's coming from the left. You got this anti Israeli candidate rolling to what I think is gonna be the Democratic nation Democratic nomination for the Senate and run against Mike Rogers in Michigan. El Said basically says Hamas is better than any Republican. And one of these guys, that Hasan Piker, is a podcaster radical who wants to say Rick Scott should be killed. That's who this guy's campaigning with and big critic of Israel, obviously. And then listen to this woman, Maureen Galindo. She is running for a congressional seat in Texas and was leading. I hope not anymore after these comments. She defends her anti Israel, anti semitic rage. Cut 25.
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Maureen Galindo
When I say that I want billionaire Zionists in prison, that that does not mean I want Jews in internment camps. I don't care what religion you are, if you are a Zionist, meaning that you believe that you are just entitled to land or someone's just entitled to land based off of religious beliefs and that you'll kill all of the Semites for it, then, yeah, I think that you're a danger to humanity and belong in prison.
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Brian Kilmeade
You believe this? You know, if that was a podcast, I'd go, how offensive. She's running for office. Imagine if she got the nomination 11 days in. So Jared Moskowitz, Jewish, obviously, congressman From Florida, cut 24 Democratic candidates in Texas suggesting we bring back concentration camps. I mean, my family, Tim's family, fought the Germans to make sure we weren't speaking German in America. We fought the Nazis to prevent that. And now we have American candidates literally wanting to bring that to America. You know, my grandparents escaped Nazi Germany. My grandmother was part of the Kindertransport out of Berlin. Her parents were killed in Auschwitz. My kids are not going to internment camps. So what we got to do is everyone's got to speak up, and you're seeing that. But we also got to start taking action. We've let this now get too out of control. We've let people say too much, many crazy things when it comes to, you know, Jews or Zionists as they're now trying to label us. They're talking about Jews. And we've seen this history book before. We have. And Jared Moskowitz was appearing with Tim Burchett, and they were talking about the rise of anti Semitism. Yeah, there's a lot of anti Israeli stuff on the right in the podcast world, but it's not mainstream and certainly not among leadership. Nobody that I know on the left, the only one that really speak out is Gottmeimer Moskowitz and John Fetterman. On the left, for the most part, you don't hear much from Schumer condemning it when asked. I'm sure he'll condemn it. But what about a leadership role? What about using that podium? You write everything down, you look up like no one's watching, and you want to condemn Donald Trump every day. What about one day condemning on the left the anti Semitism that's happening and how concerned you are? I think Bill Maher nailed it when he said this. Cut 32. There is a frothing anxiousness for the literal extermination of this one group. And Democrats, where are you? If any other minority group was being talked about this way, you'd break out the Kenta cloth and have 10 benefit concerts. But because you see that so many of your brainwashed by TikTok constituents now have an unfavorable view of Israel. You indulge them when you should be correcting them. Them you don't tell your woke idiots Israel isn't a colonizer or an apartheid state or committing genocide and that if you brats had to spend a week anywhere in the Middle east other than Israel, you would understand what liberalism is not. Yes, anti Semitism incidents. In 2021 there were 2,717, 2022, 3,698, 2023, 8,000. Look at this. In one year 8,873, then 9,364 and 24. And last year 6,274. That's after Trump was elected and brought an end to the fighting in Gaza. So when we come back, Rachel Campos Juffe joins us, talks about her brand new book, American Patriotism. Don't move. You'll listen to the Brian Kilmeade show
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coming to you on a need to know basis because man, do you need to know. It's Brian Kilmeade. The more you listen, the more you'll know. It's Brian Kilmeade.
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Hey. Well, we are back. Josh Krasnower coming up in 15 minutes. But right now I want to bring in Rachel Campo, stuffy Fox and Friends weekend co host, filling in for Angley today and tomorrow. And she has his great book out American patriotism celebrating 250 years of America greatness, which is is going to pick up steam leading up to the 4th of July. Rachel, who did you dedicate this book to?
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Rachel Campos Duffy
Well, before I tell you that, can I tell you one little thing?
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Brian Kilmeade
Yes.
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Rachel Campos Duffy
You and I, you and I spent three hours on the couch. I left the studio, I jumped in my car to come home. So I'm having a break before I go and do the Five. I'm hosting the Five tonight. I jump in the car, my husband Sean gives me a call and he says because I watched you today at the top of the eight and I'm sorry, honey, Brian and Lawrence are totally right. You're wrong.
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Brian Kilmeade
Really? About Amazon?
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Rachel Campos Duffy
Yes.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah.
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Rachel Campos Duffy
He's like, I get what you're trying to say. But like, no, wait a second.
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Brian Kilmeade
That took a lot of guts for him to say that. And by the way, I didn't put him up to that. So what you were saying is, well, I want to go over that too. But just real first. I just, in answer to my question, you dedicate to the president United States, right?
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Rachel Campos Duffy
I did. Did. I did. So I dedicated the president and said, I dedicate this to the man who's taught us all how to love, serve and fight, fight, fight for America. And I mean that from the bottom of my heart. I think he's changed politics. He's changed conservative, you know, the Conservative Party, the gop. I think maybe forever. And so I, I just, I really love him. I think he loves America, and I think this book is about American dreams. He sort of has, has an amazing personal life story, but everything he does is he really wants to help America and make it better and make it great. And so I thought, this is the guy I want to dedicate it to. And I did. I went to the Oval Office last week and I presented it to him.
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Brian Kilmeade
And did he say to you it goes to go into his library?
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Rachel Campos Duffy
Yes. You know, he said he loved the book. He actually did a little video, which I'm going to post here soon, and said, go out and buy the book. He loved it. And he loves everybody at our network. He loves so many of the hosts. And as you know, each, each chapter is another chapter by. You know, you have a chapter, Lawrence has a chapter, Ainsley has a chapter, Charlie Griff. So many people in our Fox family, and they all have a different American dream story. And that's what we're trying to promote. It's America 250.
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Brian Kilmeade
Right? I mean, think about it. If, even if you're listening in our country and are not impressed with our country, or if you're listening in Canada, listening around the country, around the world, there's only one country people are trying, doing desperately try to get in. So why would people try to come here if it was so bad? And the problem we have is people born here can't appreciate what they've always had. That's human nature. If you've always had something, if you were born in a mansion, you expect to live in another mansion. You can't. But if you were the one who started in a shack and earned that mansion every day, you appreciate it and you should. That's just the way it is. So it's hard to appreciate something we've always had. That's why I tell people travel and if you find someplace better, stay. But they always come back.
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Rachel Campos Duffy
Travel? Yeah, travel's great. You know, and I grew up as a military brat living in third world countries. So, I mean, for me, my sense of gratitude is so grounded in having lived in countries like Turkey and Peru. And I lived in Venezuela for a while. I've traveled through India. I mean, go to any of those places. But even if you go to Europe. You know, what's interesting about Europe is that it's still very classless. So is Latin America. It's very classist. That sort of mobility, that fluidity that we have, that if you work hard, you can rise from poverty to the middle class in America is not something that you see so often in Europe. In fact, in Europe, if you talk to your neighbor and say, I'm thinking about starting a new business, they'll probably try and talk you out of it. They're super neg. You'd say it to a fellow American, they'll go, go for it. And Europeans will tell you all the time that that's the case.
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Brian Kilmeade
You know, it's interesting. That's the whole thing of giving yourself a shot. People are an opportunity. They want outcomes. I remember Phil Knight told us that, you know, he starts Nike. He said, I asked my sister to go down and fill out an application, a business operating application. That was it. He said, if I was to start Nike now, I would have to get a lawyer to go over all the aspects and all the liabilities and go get insurance. He said, I would not be able to do it.
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Josh Krasnower
It.
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Brian Kilmeade
We used. We have gotten so conditioned to all these regulations, and still people are breaking through.
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Rachel Campos Duffy
You know, I had a conversation once with a guy named John Menard. John Menard is an amazing guy. Came from poverty, started just to make some extra money building pole pole Barns. And he's now has a store called Menards, that's a chain, that's a competitor with Home Depot, very popular in Wisconsin. He's a. He's a. He's the richest man in Wisconsin. And I asked him, because he donates a lot of money to. To economic freedom causes, to organizations that promote economic freedom. And I asked him, why do you do this? Why do you give away your millions to these kinds of organizations? And he says, because I would not be able to start my company today. I. I was. I was just a guy with an idea and a thought and a lot of hard work. He said, exactly what you said. I would have to have. Have the money to hire a team of lawyers. I would have to deal with so much regulation, I couldn't even have opened the first store. That's a. That's a scary thought. And that's what will kill the American dream more than anything else.
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Brian Kilmeade
All right, so when you talk about who's in your book, can you run down some of the names that we'll all hear from and get their essays?
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Rachel Campos Duffy
Absolutely. Well, Brian Kilmeade Ainsley, Charlie Griff. I've got Sean Hannity in there. Will Kane, Charles Payne Harris Faulkner, Shannon Bream, Martha McCallum. I mean, the list goes on and on. Joey Jones, who we know just reenlisted yesterday. The, the list goes on and on. And it's every story is different. Every story is regional. You know, like the story from Emily Campano growing up in, in, in Northern California and in and in and also her, her move to, to the Northwest up in, up in Washington is different than, say, Will Kane's story in Texas and Hawaii.
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Brian Kilmeade
Will never tough talks talking about Hawaii. He used to work with us. Rachel Campos, Duffy, Congratulations. It's called Celebrating 250 Years of America Greatness.
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If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmeade.
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There is no place for hate in our country and our politics. It's not who we are. And the fact is, we're seeing a huge surge right now of anti Semitism. As you know, the numbers out last week, a 70% increase in anti Semitic incidents since October 7th. I'm very concerned about what's going on right now. Yeah, I mean, it was as high in 2025 in terms of incidents in 2024 was at 9354 in America. Incidents in 2025. It still is abhorrent, 6274 anti Semitic incidents in America. But that's coming a lot from leadership and not fringe. These are people running for office on the Democratic side, and there's got to be some condemnation. Jared Moskowitz did condemn this crazy woman from who's running for a congressional seat over in Texas, Maureen Galindo, for coming out and saying Zionists basically should be jailed. Joining us now is Josh Troshauer, Fox News Radio political analyst and chief and the author, editor in chief of the Jewish Insider. Josh, you didn't need to see the stats to know how bad it's getting. And now finally, somebody on the left is pointing out problems in their own party.
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Josh Krasnower
Yeah, I mean, that is not just some random candidate. It's the candidate that finished in first place in a Democratic primary in Texas. And Texas, thankfully has ruled that you need to win a majority of the vote to be the nominee. So there's gonna be a runoff. But that could well have been the Democratic nominee in a swing district that that could have been still has a chance, though. I hope that the condemn that's taken place over the last 48 hours wakes people up to the fact that there's Some really bad actors, some real extremists that are running for Congress. I mean, all you have to do is look at the results. This past Tuesday in Philadelphia, Democrats nominated expected future congressman who on social media posted it and reposted that the terrorist attack killing 15 Jews in Australia was a false flag perpetrated by Zionists. I mean, this kind of, of insane conspiratorial hate is not that unusual and it's creeping up especially into these very deep blue parts of the country. You know, this is a very heavily Democratic district as well. And it's really, I mean, I've never seen this degree of anti Semitism out in the open in our politics.
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Brian Kilmeade
And Randy Fine, a Jewish congressman Republican from Florida, says he gets regular death threats and now he's got to walk around with security because he's Jewish and speaks out because that's his job. So I don't know what's going to, what do you think's going to happen to this Galindo?
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Josh Krasnower
Well, look, I think Democrats belatedly realized how. Well, first of all, it should be noted that there's a super pac, a Republican type super pac, realizing that Democrats could get themselves in a real pickle who has been boosting this candidate on the airwaves. So they're seeing the ability to create some trouble and they've done that. So that's raised the stakes a little bit higher. But you also have the reality that, that Democrats have not spoken out against Graham Platner, Democrats have not spoken out against Abdul El Sayed, Democrats did not speak out. And in fact AOC campaigned with this guy Chris Raab, who is a very radical, anti Israel and I think arguably anti Semitic candidate who's going to be expected to be the next lawmaker in the Philadelphia area. So, you know, you didn't hear people speak up when there was anti Semitism percolating in the party circles and they did in this case. And I think the other part of the equation is that the candidate that's also in the runoff, the challenger is someone who Democrats have been promoting and they like as a moderate minded candidate in a swing district. So I think the money is on the normal candidate winning the runoff, but it's not a foregone conclusion. And the fact that Galindo defeated the Democratic backed candidate in the first round of the primary is a real wake up call to where the voter base is in the Democratic Party.
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Brian Kilmeade
I mean, you talk about this guy Platner, he came out yesterday, this is not anti Semitism example, but he talked about how a fellow soldier should have been killed and mocked the fact that he was not killed. Said it was poor marksmanship on the Taliban is the only reason this mouth breeder made it home. He managed to make every possible blank decision possible when it comes to a small unit combat. And you have him basically ranting and just mocking video that shows a guy getting almost killed in Afghanistan. I mean, you see the Nazi tattoo that he has. He says it was just a skull and crossbones. It's not true. So that's a lie. I mean, how did he get through? And how was he getting these crowds?
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Josh Krasnower
Yeah, I mean, there's a ton of back hitch from all directions on Graham Platner. I think one of the stories on the anti Semitism front is that back in 2014, he watched a video of Hamas terrorists killing Israeli soldiers. Like a smut film. And he was praising their military tactics, their terrorist tactics, I should say. So that's who this guy is. I think when you look at someone's history and their background, I think that's the best way of understanding their values, their principles, their conscience. Their conscience. And Platner's record is clear as day for anyone to see. And Democrats are choosing to look the other way because they want to beat Susan Collins and they want to retake the Senate. The normalization, the tolerance of this kind of extremism, anti Semitism, hate, is something I've never seen in the Democratic Party. And it's not just Platner. It's Abdul El Sayed in Michigan, it's Chris Raab in Pennsylvania. I could name this a candidate in New Jersey that has ties to the Blind Sheikh, the jihadist who was Mastermind behind the 93 World Trade center bombing. That guy is the front runner in a Democratic primary in northern New Jersey taking place next six months. I could go on and on, but the candidates that have terrorist packing and extremism and anti Semitism in their records are winning or succeeding in a lot of key Democratic primaries in a way I've never seen before. My, my 20 years of government politics.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, I don't. But you know what? I think that Benji Netanyahu is right. Saying they can't, they're counting on not having American aid, and that we get something like we give him $3.4 billion. He said, I don't think we're going to get it. So we got to. We have to learn to live without it. And that. And because every Democrat, you know that when they have that, that statement, put up your hand if you want to get rid of fossil fuels. Of course, everyone puts their hand up. So. And this, this question's going to be put up your hand if you're going to deny Israel a aid, every Democrat on that stage running for president will put their hand up. Josh.
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Josh Krasnower
When you appease the terrorists, the terrorists always win. So what we're seeing on that debate about Israel funding, at first it was, well, why should we be giving foreign aid? We want to keep the money in the United States. But now the radicals are demanding that no money be given or no support even be given to Iron Dome, which is the missile defense system that protects both Israelis, Palestinians, Arabs from being killed by these Iranian missiles. And there's an increasing push by these same people to end that support and end that funding as well. So this is, you know, once you give in an inch, they're gonna, you know, we know who these people are, we know what their records are, we know what their ideology is. So they're asking already for more. They're now making a demand that Democrats call for ending Iron Dome support. And it's gonna go further and further until people actually put their foot down and say, we're not gonna be tolerating this degree of extremism and anti SEM Semitism within a party.
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Brian Kilmeade
I want to talk about Los Angeles, cuz I think it's going to be a bigger story. Spencer Pratt's running. Did his homework. Say he's been a Republican, never met a Democrat growing up. All his friends growing up there were Democrats, but he sees how they failed. And the thing is, he does understand the issues. He's not just saying, I'll be better than Bass. Listen to what he said in an interview on CNN. Cut 36. This person should be in jail. 12 people burned a lot. And you cannot just move on and act like, oh, I was in Ghana, oopsie daisies. Like, no, you should have resigned. You should have admitted to your failures, and you didn't. And so I just had to for my community. And then once I got in the game and saw that, oh, our whole city is on fire. Literally. I mean, it's. It's crazy. So, I mean, he speaks in a way a little bit like Trump. Very right to the point, how to fix things, and seems to have common sense. Sense. Last poll was 30, 22. Is this a break the glass moment that Gavin Newsom talks about? If he starts closing in on her and she keeps running away from debates and if he gets through and it's just Bass and Pratt, so he's speaking
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Josh Krasnower
to a lot of the issues that Los Angeles voters are concerned about, even those on the center left. Crime, homelessness, the fire. I think his big issue is just how incompetent the government is in rebuilding after the fires that's devastated so much of the city of Los Angeles. You know, I think this is going to go to a runoff and I think Pratt is in very good position to finish in la. Head of a very far left city council person. So the question is like, is la? I mean, the Democratic advantage in Los Angeles is so significant. It's hard to see someone who's Republican breaking through. I saw one of the ads that Pratt went up with where it was at a bar. I think it featured people at a barbecue and they were all saying that they can't vote for Trump. You know, they're not maga, but they really like what Spencer Pratt is saying about all these big issues that are concerning Los Angeles voters. The big challenge for him is whether Democrats would actually push the ballot box or go to the ballot box and vote for Pratt. That's going to be a big hurdle. Like we saw Rick Caruso, who I thought was a very good candidate running on a lot of the same issues, came short up, fell short against Karen Bass. So well, he's getting a lot of attention and I think this could be a hell of a ra but it's gonna be a big challenge for any Republican.
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Brian Kilmeade
So fraud is now in the things to do list for the Vice President United States and he's been very aggressive, unlike Kamala Harris. When she was given the border, she kind of ignored it. So now they're moving forward. In Minneapolis today we have this. The woman, Amy Bach, who was convicted of taking money from autism programs in Feed the Hungry program over in Minneapolis and she knows she wasn't the only one involved. And they are looking into in to what Congressman Omar knows, what Governor Waltz had known. I think Nick Shirley, who's one who exposed a lot of this fraud, said this today or said this last night with Will Kane Cup 43 for Ilhan to say she doesn't know about this fraud is like the biggest lie we've heard in American history. She knew about the fraud and today
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Jeff Bezos
they actually just criminally charged one of the ladies for the feeding our whose daycare was used for the feeding our future fraud. And I exposed her daycare in my
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Brian Kilmeade
video that went viral and that person has now been charged.
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Jeff Bezos
This is all around where her congressional district.
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Brian Kilmeade
And so for her to say that
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Jeff Bezos
she didn't know about this fraud is such a lie.
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Brian Kilmeade
And she's obviously trying to cover her face. I mean, look at her net worth. It just went down by $29 million. I mean, it was unbelievable. She said she was worth $30 million and then she comes out, she's worth $100,000. She said, I just did the paperwork wrong. And then we have Feeding Our Future, a program that she got, she, she actually got after, during the pandemic. And Amy Bach basically said, I dealt with her office. I didn't deal with her. Josh, is she in trouble?
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Josh Krasnower
Look, a lot of times when there's this much smoke, there's often fire. And there's also the issue of current husband and his consulting contracts and her past marriages that are a little bit sketchy. There's a lot there. There's been a lot of smoke that's been uncovered through investigative reporting. I do think the fact that you don't see the, like Minneapolis Star Tribune being as aggressive as some of these independent entrepreneurs and kind of looking into these cases as aggressively as they could. You know, I think that's a factor in her still being in office. But look, there's a lot, lot there. I think her ties to feeding our future and her ties to some of these networks that are under investigation and being charged in some cases that those are going to be looked into. I will say politically, she's in a very heavily Democratic district and she's had primary challenges before. She's managed to survive. Doesn't seem to have much of a challenge this time around. So, you know, I think what happens to, there would have to be some legal case to be made. I think politically she's probably not going to be challenged unless there's a aspect to the investigation that she's charged legally with some kind of crime.
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Brian Kilmeade
So, you know, president's approval ratings aren't high. But when in the with maga, his power is still great. Massie's gone, Cassidy's gone. And a lot of his, almost every one of his candidates seems to have survived the primary season if they're not in a runoff or winning outright. Right. What does that say about his power?
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Josh Krasnower
Look, Trump has a near perfect record in Republican primaries nominating his favorite candidate. That goes all the way back to when he was first president back in 2016. I think the one hiccup was Brian Kemp and Brad Raffensperger back in 22 in Georgia. And even Raffensperger didn't win a second time when he ran for governor this time around. Look, it shows that the Republican party is still strongly behind Trump. Trump and Trump's endorsement of Ken Paxton in Texas probably going to put him over the finish line in the runoff next Tuesday in Texas. So, yeah, you know, you can see why don't want to cross Trump in Congress. So you are seeing the Republicans that have already lost their seats who are retiring, like Tom Tillis in North Carolina, are actually the ones that are leading the charge to be more independent and to breaking from Trump on some key issues. But when it comes to anyone who wants a political future in Washington right now, breaking with Trump on foreign policy, breaking with Trump on, you know, his reconciliation bill or the Epstein files is the case with Tom Massey. It'll end your career in Washington. And I think Massey, Cassidy and a few others have learned that the hard way.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, like I said before, I like Cassidy. You know, he had that impeachment vote and, you know, in retrospect, it was unfortunate, but for the most part, he's been a great congressman. So he finished dead, I mean, third. I thought it was going to be close, if not winning, and he ends up distant third. So. So we'll see what happens. Josh, thanks so much. Appreciate it.
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Josh Krasnower
Thanks, Brian.
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Brian Kilmeade
All right, we come back, the sudden pushback by capitalists against socialists. It's about time. I'll explain.
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Coming to you on a need to know basis because, man, do you need to know. It's Brian Kilmeade. Radio. That makes you think this is the Brian Kilmeade Show.
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Jeff Bezos
Let's say you start a burger joint and you have 10 employees and you make a little bit of money, right? So you have this is this one, one outlet. And by the way, these are the most delicious burgers in the world. People love your burgers, Andrew. And so then you open a second outlet, right? And now you're making a little bit more money and you have the 20 employees and you open a third outlet. By the time you've opened a thousand outlets, you are a billionaire, right? And by the way, this is a real life story. It happens all the time. It's in and out burger. It's, you know, raising Cane's chicken. At what point did that money all of a sudden become unethical?
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Brian Kilmeade
And what he's referring to is AOC came out and says it's impossible to be a billionaire. As I paraphrase, nobody can earn a billion dollars. Are you kidding me? Do the math. That's what happens if you take a risk. Now, now, I'll go back further. If you have no money and no Support and you're 28 years old and think you got the best burger, you're going to have to go get a loan, get a cosigner for that loan. You're going to have to take tremendous risks as you rent that building, you get the products you're hoping, go six or seven months, begin to turn a profit, at least make the payments for your employees and pay that loan back. So you're able to do that. You go through it, you put in your 80 hours a week, you think about it when you're not there, and then suddenly their store is good and you go for the second one and you hope that next one works and you hope you pick the right location and you worry and you work and you worry and you work and you miss back to school nights and you miss the soccer games, but you do it and suddenly you make some money because you did a good job, you hired the right people, you had a good concept. And if you're one of the few, maybe 12% that start breaking out and doing what Jeff Bezos said, you deserve everything you got. But here's how you help in the economy. Those employers, those managers that you hire, those people that you train, they become a manager and they say, hey, I watched this guy build his store. I could do do it, but you want more of an ice cream shop where you want a restaurant. And then you said, I trained under the creator of that burger joint, whoever it was. You know, I started with Jeff Bezos when he was on Amazon. He only had one plant and he wasn't making a profit and he was worried. He was working 20 hours a day. And I watched that place grow. Now, how many people are at Amazon that have formed their own companies or are able to retire and buy a condo? That helps the real estate. That's just the way it works. I shouldn't have to explain this, but now Jeff Bezos and I love it. People are so afraid when they make a billion dollars to saying, I'm a billionaire these days or having a nice car because you can afford it. They think you stole from it, you did something unethical. And now you have people running for office saying that same thing. Cut 18.
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Rachel Campos Duffy
You can't earn a billion dollars. That's right. You just can't earn that.
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Alexi Lalas
Right.
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Brian Kilmeade
What about Katie Wilson, mayor of Seattle? Cut 19. And at that time, I mean, the idea that you would have the state legislature pass a progressive income tax tax was pretty far fetched. So it's just really, really exciting about 10 years later to see that actually happen. I think the claims that millionaires are
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Rachel Campos Duffy
going to leave our state are like super overblown.
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Brian Kilmeade
And if you know the ones that leave like by so guess what? Mandami is meeting with the CEOs at Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan Chase and saying, yeah, I need you to stay day. Right. And Katie Wilson saying, I shouldn't have said that about Starbucks and other people because she condemned Starbucks for saying they're leaving because they're leaving. When you have a checkbook and there's no money in, that's a problem.
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From high atop FOX News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sewing division. It's broken. Brian Kilmeade, everyone.
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So glad you're here. It's the Brian Kilmeade show moving through a week leading up to Memorial Day weekend. We think about the 13 that lost their lives this year. Special One Nation on Sunday. I got Frank Siller on the best in the business when it comes to giving back to the first responders. Military 9 11. I also have great guest Landon Donovan previews the World cup, one of America's finest soccer player American soccer players ever. I have a great interview with Jake Steinfeld as we look at the Presidential Fitness test is now back. How does he feel about it as America's first ever personal trainer and Mr. Fitness as well as the 90s, you know, the 90s comes back in terms of the music. I'm sure we all heard about that. And he put that on his brand new iHeart channel, which is just fantastic. So those are some of the different guests that we have. And we're also Rachel, Rachel Campos Duffy with us talking about her great book. So that's all coming up Sunday at 10 o'. Clock. And thanks everyone, by the way, for watching because the ratings have been through the roof. It's truly an honor. Sunday at 10. Doug Schon standing by. As I mentioned, Judge Roy K. Altman, he's the author of Israel on Trial and a city a federal sitting judge in court at the Southern District of Florida, the youngest ever appointed to the bench. So before we get to Doug, let's get to the big three.
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Maureen Galindo
Number three, if you are a Zionist, meaning that you believe that you are just entitled to land based off of religious belief beliefs and that you'll kill all of the Semites for it, then. Yeah, I think that you're a danger to humanity and belong in prison.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah. That is a congressional candidate who was prior to those statements servicing favored to win the nomination in Texas as a congresswoman. It is sickening. But Deranged anti Semitism is rampaging through the Democratic Party and people like Chuck Schumer don't say a word. Some do. And we'll discuss that with Doug.
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Jeff Bezos
Number two, what's happening here is politicians are using the kind of age old technique. So there's this tale of two economies and they're using this age old technique of, you know, picking a villain and pointing fingers.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yes. Jeff Bezos, the rich attack back. Finally, as socialists get a reality check and begin to walk back their vilification of success. Jeff Bezos, of the many who have had enough, number one here in the final stages of Iran. We'll see what happens. We'll either have a deal or we're going to do some things that are a little bit nasty. But hopefully that won't happen. Yep, that's the president. United States first in with now this just in. Him and Bibi have a clash, but it looks like Trump is going to hold off finishing off Iran. I think that's a big mistake. And we'll see where that goes. By the way, don't forget to go to our YouTube channel if you ever missed the show. YouTube. It's YouTube.com Hebron Kilmeade show. We're also gonna begin posting what Made America Great, My series that has 67 episodes with five more rolling off in the fall. Doing them right now where you just have just slices of America's past I think you'll love. I think you'll really love it. Premiering on FOX Nation. Doug, welcome back.
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Doug Schonest
Thank you so much for having me.
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Brian Kilmeade
So what's with the antisemitism? Not only in this country, over 6,000 incidents this in 2025, over 9,000 in 2024. And now you have this anti Semitic, Semitic candidate over in Michigan and you just heard the clip I played of Maureen Galindo over in Texas. What's going on, Ryan?
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Doug Schonest
It is unprecedented. It is something akin to what we saw in Germany in the 30s. And I hate to make that reference. I wish I could say I'm exaggerating. But the idea that if you are a Zionist, you are somehow a criminal and belong in prison is abhorrent. That's basically concentration camps.
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Brian Kilmeade
So this sex therapist, her name is Maureen Galindo, is leading in this primary cut 25. Listen to her.
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Maureen Galindo
When I say that I want billionaire Zionists in prison, that that does not mean I want Jews in internment camps. I don't care what religion you are. If you are a Zionist, meaning that you believe that you are just entitled to land or someone's just entitled to land based off of religious beliefs and that you'll kill all of the Semites for it, then yeah, I think that you're a danger to humanity and belong in prison.
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Brian Kilmeade
So she was. She's been condemned not by Chuck Schumer, but by Jared Moskowitz and some others. Don't you think she's got to be pushed back. And how scary is it if she gets the nomination?
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Doug Schonest
It's very scary. Yes, she's got to be pushed back. Yes. She has to be denounced. Yes. It has to be made clear that when she speaks of billionaire Zionists, she's basically saying rich Jewish businessman men. And yes, I think if she gets the nomination, which I hope she doesn't, she has to be completely disavowed by all Democrats of all philosophies. Because as your listeners know, and you certainly know, Brian, I know that Israel was created not based on a religious belief. It was created as compensatory for Jews who had been slaughtered during the Holocaust and many exiled from their homes. This was a homeland, not a basis to enslave other people or attack other people. It was to protect the Jewish people.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yes. And they've been under attack ever since and culminating October 7th. And when they fight back, people condemn them and suddenly their Benjamin Netanyahu is vilified and the country is targeted, not by neighbors, just by Iran these days, it seems. So the other story. And you work for Mike Bloomberg, right? And you tried to see if he could become president. So Mike Bloomberg, I believe is Jewish, right? Yes, of course, Jewish. Okay, so Mike Bloomberg's Jewish and he's a billionaire. And guess what?
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Josh Krasnower
He is.
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Brian Kilmeade
He earned every cent of it. No one gave him anything. He's self made.
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Josh Krasnower
Correct.
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Brian Kilmeade
So I'm gonna just flash Back to when AOC, a leading Democrat, said this cut, 18. 18.
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Rachel Campos Duffy
You can't earn a billion dollars. That's right. You just can't earn that. That's exactly correct. You can. You can get market power, you can break rules, you can do all sorts of things. You can abuse labor laws, you can pay people less than what they're worth, but you can't earn that. Right. Since you didn't earn that, you have to create a myth of earnings.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yet what do you say with that? Because she's running on that and she got a candidate, got the nomination for a candidate who will win the general election. Rab over in Philadelphia on that type, those type statements.
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Josh Krasnower
Right.
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Doug Schonest
I think what she's saying again is abhorrent and an abomination In Mike Bloomberg's case, he earned every penny. As you said, he pays people extremely well. Well, the environment that he has created is an extraordinary workplace that people are literally clamoring to be able to join. And he is an extraordinarily philanthropic man, given the wealth that he earned through his labor and hard work and creativity. So what AOC says is wrong. It's an abomination and in its own way, say, is hostile and in some way close. Not analogous, but close to what Galindo in Texas is saying.
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Brian Kilmeade
But I mean, it's also ignorant. What do you mean? You can't earn a Billy.
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Josh Krasnower
Totally ignorant.
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Brian Kilmeade
I mean, it just. It makes you look stupid.
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Doug Schonest
Yes, of course. Couldn't. Couldn't agree more.
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Brian Kilmeade
So I also want to bring you to some of the pushback. And I'm happy sometimes people are embarrassed that they're very rich. Jeff Bezos. Bezos on Amazon. You know, this guy was born to a teen mom, Cuban dad, working class, found a way to work himself up as an executive. Obviously, he's extraordinarily bright. And then risks it all, leaves Wall street and a secure job and a career and forms Amazon, loses money for 10 years and then becomes one of the most successful companies in the world and makes him close to a trillionaire. And he is finally pushing back. And this is what he said about paying taxes. Taxes cut 22.
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Jeff Bezos
These people sometimes say that I don't pay taxes. So true. I pay billions of dollars in taxes and it's a perfect. Again, if people want me to pay more billions, then let's have that debate. But don't pretend that that's going to solve the problem. You could double the taxes I pay and it's not going to help that teacher.
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Brian Kilmeade
Queens and Mondami tweeted out, let's. I'm sure there's people in Queens who disagree. So, Doug, what is your thought?
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Doug Schonest
My thought is Bezos is absolutely right. Again, this is an extraordinarily talented and creative man who took great risk, who had year after year of losses, as you say, but through his creativity, the design of his site, his supply system, and the infrastructure he created, which has created tens of thousands of jobs, if not more. I commend the guy. And again, he's been philanthropic, his company's been philanthropic. And I think this is just ignorance on the part of people on the left who are looking to demonize the wealthy and the successful for their own selfish political means.
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Brian Kilmeade
So what's interesting is because you have a socialist in New York, socialists in Seattle, Seattle. You have socialist. Bernie Sanders is trying to put as many of them, including the one in Maine, socialist, communist. And they want to vilify the rich people. And I'm not sure how that is going to be because Katie Wilson has already walked it back and said maybe I shouldn't have said what I said. As Starbucks said, I think we're going to start moving people into Nashville and New York's JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs. And now you have have the CEO Ken Griffin of Citadel saying I'm going to look into move to Miami. They're beginning to realize I have the job. I'm not campaigning, I'm still vilifying them. And now they're, now they're deciding to leave. So when the reality hits the socialists, what do you think's going to happen and what is happening before our eyes?
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Doug Schonest
Well, I think it will lead to blue cities, cities like New York, Chicago, Seattle, Ferguson, further suffering a decline in services and revenue. And I think the left, Brian, we've talked about this for many years. The left will double down and they will go after the rich more and more. It is a cult of demonization that is irrational but is based on class fears and class resentments rather than economic reality.
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Brian Kilmeade
Do you think there's a, there's a battle right now between Governor Shapiro and aoc? So I can't do you the. I haven't read his book, but he's center left I hear, and he's 60% approval rating in Pennsylvania. And this guy Rab has been basically heckling him as he was campaigning a fellow Democrat through his book tour. AOC backed him and then AOC won. Do you see Bashir who is in Kentucky and Shapiro who is in Pennsylvania having a debate debate with the AOC and the I don't know is Gavin where Gavin Newsom stands? He rolls with the wind. Is that going to be a real debate about the future of your party in real time?
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Doug Schonest
Brian, I wish I could tell you there's nothing to debate because I don't think there is. But I think it's going to be a debate. I think it is one that those of us in the middle, the moderates are going to more likely than not not lose, not win. And I believe my party will go into the 2028 elections as anti Israel, potentially anti Semitic and most likely pro Palestinian.
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Brian Kilmeade
So whenever you think of Trump's policies, they look a lot better without the war. But I think the war is necessary. I see as Iran as a generational threat that the president's addressing, having said, said that the American people, for the most part, only 40% are in support, even though 80% roughly think we're winning. So they did this poll in the New York Times Siena poll, which I think leans left, and they asked the question in general, would you say that you are satisfied or dissatisfied with the Democratic Party? 45% are satisfied, 53 dissatisfied. All potential Democratic supporters 55% are satisfied, 44% are dissatisfied. Democratic leaning independents. Only 31% are satisfied. This should give along with along with redistricting. Republicans hope for the midterms. If you're the guy trying to steer your party to success in the midterms, what do you do with that poll?
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Doug Schonest
Well, what I do is I move to the center. I embrace our foreign policy. I embrace our values and candidates late. The bottom line is I think a lot of the Democrats who are dissatisfied in that poll, contrary to my worldview and I suspect yours as well, want the party to move further left, want the party to be more anti Israel, hostile to Jews and anti billionaires, which frequently, not always, but frequently is a code word for Jews.
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Brian Kilmeade
So the other thing is that just I haven't got Reddit, obviously, but it looks like the DNC has released the autopsy about what went wrong in 2024. I don't see any problem with releasing it. We all know we've been over it. There's different theories. We witnessed it. What is going to be in the autopsy? Because you're usually on the inside of this, Doug. Doug Schonest, so what's going to be the autopsy that I wouldn't have access to because I'm not involved?
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Doug Schonest
Right. Here's what I think. It shows that the Kamala Harris campaign lacked coherence, lacked a message, lacked a strategy, didn't have a good candidate, didn't have a clear argument for why she should be elected, tilted too far to the left on cultural issues, did not have a rational alternative set of economic policies to those of Joe Biden.
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Brian Kilmeade
Biden.
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Doug Schonest
And the net result is I think it's going to show something like that. Certainly what I heard when it was being done and they covered it up because it's a stating set of conclusions. But as you point out, the Siena poll points out, despite the fact that Trump is in that poll, a record low approval of 37, the Democrats are not doing much better.
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Brian Kilmeade
So I just think this could Kamala Harris, who's leading in the most polls, may lead name recognition. Couldn't this really crush her?
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Doug Schonest
BRIAN I think we can say one thing pretty safely and you'll hopefully have me back on next year to defend this point of view. I don't think there's any chance in the world she's the nominee.
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Brian Kilmeade
From a Republican perspective, they would love it. From the Democratic perspective, she's without substance, incompetence. Her resume looks great. Great. And she looks great until she talks. And she's not conversant on any policy. I have no idea what she stands for. And even though Gavin Newsom looks the part, I have no idea what he stands for. I just hope whatever it is, we get to the quality debate that Obama and Hillary Clinton had, they were talking about issues that was good for the country.
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Doug Schonest
Final thought, Doug, Final thought is my party is drifting so far away from the values I grew up with, with and I believe in. I'm not ready to leave today, though I've certainly thought about it. But Brian, unless we can come back to the sensible center and have rational debates on issues, we all lose. And I certainly as a Democrat feel very lonely.
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Brian Kilmeade
Thanks so much, Doug. I talked to Joe Manchin. He basically said the same thing. Back in a moment.
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Brett Baier
The reason that most people become a Democrat, at least the reason we don't
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Brian Kilmeade
dislike anybody, we're not against anybody. This anti semitic stuff is just, it's sickening, man. It's a real problem and it's getting worse. I don't want to be part of a political party that, that tolerates hatred or sometimes encourages it. I don't think that's where a majority Democrats are. Well, James Carville came out and said, I don't think that's where a majority of Democrats are. I think they are. I think I know this. I could just picture CNN hosting a debate amongst Democrats and probably 15 people or 12 people on that stage. And the question will be put your hand in, hand up. If you will deny Israel Fund funding any type of aid or any type of military aid and every hand will go up. I mean, we already see it. Cory Booker is putting his hand up. You know, you're going to tell me that Pete Buttigieg won't put his hand up. Of course he will. And they'll say it's Netanyahu, but it's really Israel. And maybe by that time he wouldn't even be prime minister. Then they're really going to be screwed and they're going to say, well, I like to get the Palestinians aid and it was genocide. It's already proven not to be genocide. I don't know why it's so hard. Hard to pick out the good guys in an effort like this. All right, you listen to Brian. Kill me.
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Brett Baier
Chill.
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Brian Kilmeade
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As the president said, if we'll be asked to go back into kinetic activity with the United States side by side, shoulder to shoulder, wing to wing, we're ready to do it. We consider ourselves your model ally and junior partner. What the president decides will fall in line, and that is the ambassador to the United States from Israel Lighter. So Ambassador Lighter weighed in, made a clear but the story the Jerusalem Post has and other people, According to Israeli2Israeli sources, the prime minister and president kind of battled about what the next step would be when it comes to fighting Iran. And they say they're right on the cusp that we submitted a return proposal and the prime minister didn't like it and let the president know it. And the president, I guess snapped back at him, but they're still friends. And that's what happens in a real relationship in a high stakes battle like the one we're in with Iran. And there are obviously pluses and minuses to go and back at him. Joining us now is somebody no stranger to this issue wrote a book about it. He is Judge Roy K. Altman. He's author of a book, israel on Trial and a sitting federal district court judge in the Southern district of Florida, the youngest ever appointed to the bench. Judge, welcome.
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Judge Roy K. Altman
Thanks for having me again, Brian.
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Brian Kilmeade
Hey, Judge. I know you got to stay away from politics, so I'll try to keep you away or punt. If I ask you a question, it'll get you in trouble. Trouble. But how real do you think that friction is between the two?
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Judge Roy K. Altman
I think the only thing I know of it, and I'm not in that room, is that the media seems to want to drum up conflict between Israel and the United States and has been doing that for the entire time that we've been here since October 7th. And every time the media predict that here finally is the rupture between the prime minister and the president. President, guess what? They have a meeting and they're holding hands and they're working shoulder to shoulder. So I wouldn't believe it this time because we fell for it five or six times before and each time it was fiction.
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Brian Kilmeade
Also, when you have a real relationship with stakes this high, of course you're gonna disagree. You're gonna tell me that allies never disagree. So I think that if you ask me, the prime minister absolutely wants to go back and finish the job. And the person is weighing the risks of finishing the job because the Gulf states have been targeted. Judge, that's pretty much we have been studying during the ceasefire what they have, what they don't have. And the one thing that's intolerable, they're now charging tolls on international waters in the Strait of Hormuz. That's unacceptable in any plan.
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Judge Roy K. Altman
One of the things you mentioned that I think is so critical for people to understand is the Wall Street Journal story that came out and now I think has been publicly acknowledged that Israel took its own defense systems and shipped them in secret grid to its Gulf state allies. And it's now clear that as a result of Israel taking its own protective system away from its own civilian areas to protect its Arab Muslim neighborhoods, Arab Muslim neighbors, cities, that thousands of Arab Muslims in the Middle east who were targeted by the regime in Tehran with ballistic missiles had their lives saved by Israel's generosity. And I don't think the UAE and maybe the Bahrainis and Kuwaitis will ever forget that.
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Brian Kilmeade
Right. And I think that Saudi Arabia has gotten 8,000 troops from Pakistan because they have a mutual defense pact. And Bahrain is concerned because they have missile defense, but maybe not that much. We've had plenty of time to get them additional because we want additional defense, because everybody in the region is concerned about their desalinization plants as well as their energy facilities. Right.
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Judge Roy K. Altman
I think what we're seeing and what I talk about on college campuses is the conversation we're having about Israel is in some respects five years old. The new Middle east is being shaped minute by minute by a growing alliance between partners in the Gulf states and in Israel and a new partnership that may be arising between Israel and Lebanon. We saw polling come out from Lebanon today, shocking numbers. I don't know if they've been reported on widely in the press here in the United States, but for the first time ever, a majority of Lebanese citizens responding to surveys say they want to finish their lifetime war with Israel and make a peace agreement with Israel that includes majorities of Christians, majorities of Druze and a slight majority of Sunni Muslims. Even, of course, it doesn't include Shiites who prefer to continue the forever war war with Israel. But they're a minority of the population. The Middle east is changing. And if the war with Tehran might shift the desire of the Gulf Arab states to start shipping their liquid, their natural gas and their oil Resources not through the Strait of Hormuz, but to the ports of Ashdod and Haifa. We may see a partnership between Israel and its Gulf Arab neighbors that we've would have seemed inconceivable just a year ago.
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Brian Kilmeade
I know they're trying to re configure a pipeline and get it elsewhere. We know Saudi Arabia is now going through the Red Sea. I think with a bulk of theirs are almost up to pre war levels and they're concerned about being targeted. But I really think Judge, that the best interest to finish the job with another week or two on Iran and really pressure this regime who does not seem conciliatory or repentant.
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Judge Roy K. Altman
My view is America has been the greatest force for good the world has ever known. Israel has been its closest and most important ally ally for 50 years now votes with the United States more than any other country in the world on the international stage. I think over 93 or 94% of the time votes America's interests. And time and again around this country at churches and schools and colleges, I get people who work for the Navy, who work in the Department of War, who work in tech procurement for our government coming to me and saying Judge, you have no idea how right you are. We sell Israel a piece of technology and we sell it to them by the way way, thus stimulating our economy and creating thousands of American jobs. And they do something we can't do. They battle test it in real time, give us minute by minute assessments of what it's doing well and what it's doing badly. And then two years later they give it back to us for free. And it's totally unrecognizable to the product we sold them because it's 10 times better prepared to the geostrategic conflicts that are coming. I wouldn't read too much friction into what actually is the relationship between the United States and Israel. And I'm confident that they'll both do what's necessary to rid the world of this evil tyrannical regime.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah. So let's go over some legal terms that we hear bantered about. Number one, there was genocide in Gaza. I think that was disproven. Now no one's covering that. What do you say?
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Judge Roy K. Altman
Because there's, there's no doubt that Israel's war in Gaza was not only not genocide, it was the least likely urban conflict in modern history ever to meet the standard legal definition of genocide. And you don't have to take my word for it. The high level military group the hlmg, which is a collection of all the high level officers and generals from almost all the Western democracies in the world, not just the United States. These people aren't Jews. They have no connection with Israel. They're just generals in militaries around the world. They wrote a report and a brief to the International Criminal Court, the icc, which said, says that Israel's civilian warning system, which is a warning system where Israel tells the civilian population of Gaza exactly where it will be striking the next day and then provides humanitarian corridors for them to leave those zones. And even in Alma Wasi in the southwestern part of the Strip, created an entire new city for them where it provided food purveyors, medical clinics, polio vaccines for 1.2 million people. The HLMGC says not only is that completely incompatible with genocide, not only is it completely incompatible with what any other country has ever been willing to do for the civilian population of the enemy in warfare before, but they say it's also something our own democracies would never be able to do because our civilian populations would never stomach endangering the lives of our own soldiers, our own sons and daughters, daughters by warning the enemy of where those sons and daughters will be. And by the way, it's taken a very heavy toll. Over 800 Israelis have been killed in Gaza precisely because they warned the civilian population to get out of harm's way. And they sent those soldiers into homes, home to home, that Hamas had had the time to lay an ambush at and to booby trap and fill with.
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Brian Kilmeade
And John Spencer, the president of War College at West Point, said the same thing. He went and visited five times, times. And he said they actually were more humanitarian oriented than even we were in Fallujah and Mosul. So I want to bring it to something else we hear about that Israel is an apartheid state. What do you say to that, Judge?
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Judge Roy K. Altman
Israel is, is the most free and diverse country in the entire region. And again, you don't have to take my word for it. Talk to Israeli Arabs like I do when I visit Israel, and they would tell you that their socioeconomic mobility in the country, their health, their life expectancy, their child mortality rates are all better than they would be in any of the 22 Arab countries in the Middle east, in any of the 57 Muslim countries in the world. Israel is a country of 10 million people, 21% of whom 2.1 million people are Arab Muslims who share equally in the free commercial, civil and political reform rights of their Jewish neighbors. There is apartheid being practiced all over the Middle east today. Think, for example, of how inconceivable it would be to have a Jewish justice on the Supreme Court in Tehran or a Jewish general in Damascus or Jewish lawyers, doctors or judges in Ramallah or Gaza City. These things are absurd even to consider. But there are Arab Muslim Supreme Court justices in Israel. There are Arab, Muslim and Druze and Christian judges, lawyers and doctors all over country. There are four major Arab political parties in the Knesset, in Israel, who, by the way, were part of the governing coalition of the country just four years ago in 2022. If Israel's practicing apartheid, it's doing a real bad job of it.
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Brian Kilmeade
All right, so Judge Roy Altman is our guest. So. So Judge, is there a way, from what you know, to be able to track the arms deliveries to Hezbollah and Omas Hamas? Because it seemed clear since you guys, since Israel did such damage to them, they were able to get more rockets in. And I'm just wondering, even if Iran comes out and part of this deal and says we won't rearm our proxies, is it possible for us to enforce that? And you guys, the biggest and most
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Judge Roy K. Altman
important ally in this struggle will be Syria. And we'll learn a lot about whether Hezbollah can survive by whether the Lebanese government is willing to do what it has promised. Promised. And we should say again, people criticize the Lebanese government for not doing enough. I think that's fair. But we should say again how revolutionary it is that for the first time in 40 years the Lebanese government has gathered the strength to be able to stand up for itself and say Hezbollah is illegal in the country. We want to have a monopoly on military weapons in the country, the government, and we want to expel the man who used to run the country for 40 years, which is the ambassador from Tehran. So the question will be be will the Lebanese government, in conjunction with the new Syrian government, have the willingness, have the strength, have the ability to stop arms transfers from continuing to pass through the land corridor through Syria and into Lebanon? If they can do it, then that'll be a sea change for peace in the Middle east for both Arab and Jew alike.
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Brian Kilmeade
All right, thanks so much. I appreciate you joining us. Judge, you're a great advocate and also you go to the facts as opposed to a motion. Judge Roy K. Altman, his book is Israel on Trial. Thanks so much, Judge BRIAN we are back in a moment.
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Steven, I am here in support tonight for Stephen because you're the first guy in America who's lost his show because we got a president who can't take a joke and because, because Larry and David Ellison feel they need to keep kiss his ass to get what they want. So these are. Anyway, Stephen, he's a small minded people. They got no idea what the freedoms of this beautiful country are supposed to be about. This is for you. Well, or they could be losing $12 million a year. And they weren't jokes, they were statements against the administration every single night. And it stopped being comedy. So that could have been the issue. But Bruce Springsteen has totally lost his mind. Congratulations. So Bruce Springsteen, I can't tell you how many people say I'm done with him. But he doesn't care. He's 100 years old and he's out there just being anti Trump. And if that's where you want to dedicate the waning years, go ahead and do it. You and Robert De Niro go tour together. For Stephen Colbert to leave and everyone, you know, go off and use vile terms and blame Trump or Larry Ellison who now owns Oracle, owns TikTok, CBS, CNN and as well as, yeah, basically has Paramount. So congratulations, go ahead and alienate Larry Ellison. You can go do that. Or you could say that they're in the business of making money and that network television is a bigger challenge than ever. And then maybe you lost the lead. In fact, Stephen Colbert came out and said it. I really don't want to do politics, but my producers told me I had to do it because to what the ratings were. So we got a two one, Jimmy Kimmel gets a one nine I think now Jimmy Fallon's down to a one six. And at one point everybody looks at the bottom line, says this is what it's costing me, this is what I'm getting and I'm going to cut the cord. And that's what happened. And now you have everyone blaming Trump. But the thing is, it's so interesting. There was a time when they would include, you know, ripping on Fox in the Daily show or, or Talk Soup or cbs. And that's what you hear about. Oh, last night they mentioned you. It's always, it's always an insult. You have all this stuff going on and nobody's talking about it. I mean, all these talk show hosts show up, we'll show a clip of it to show support for Stephen Colbert and his final all right, Jon Stewart says horrible things. Can't wait for Donald Trump to leave. Okay. But doesn't even make news anymore. And that's part of the problem. You know the days when you Grant gets involved in the scandal and goes on a late night show, that's a night show. And Jay Leno looks over and says, what were you thinking? It becomes news everywhere. But now their lead guest is Elizabeth Warren. I mean, what kind of booker does that? They used to vie for Tom Hanks and I don't know, the leading whoever, maybe Messi or somebody. The hottest people in the country. They kind of stopped doing that. So, you know, Stephen Colbert's gone. And as you see all these guys, I mean, how long to the other guys, Pentagon. And then in the end, they're going to be more successful as podcast and they'll have their audience and they'll have their format. And he's made enough money to never have to work again. Congratulations on the serious stuff. Before we go, President, United States is turning up the heat on Cuba big time. Now, what he's doing with the indictment, Arul Castro, he's letting him know that we're coming after the other guys in power, not the ones that used to be in power. And I think little by little, you build a legitimate case and you let them know, you could either leave to another island island, go over to Turkey, or you could do it the hard way and end up in a prison. Here's Marco Rubio, cut 40
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Judge Roy K. Altman
in the US we are ready to open a
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Brian Kilmeade
new chapter in the relationship between our
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Josh Krasnower
people and our countries.
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Brian Kilmeade
And currently the only thing standing in
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Josh Krasnower
the way of a better future are those who control your country.
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Brian Kilmeade
And that's what he's trying to do. They have, they don't have power 20 hours a day. There's no more oil and gas. They're not getting resupplied for food. All the money goes to the army. Army set up. There's really their own government within a government and then you have a government and they, they don't want, you know, they don't want a military confrontation. We don't want a military confrontation. What I think they do is just want to squeeze it. And why we have to do it not just for the Cuban exiles, that would be great. But also to get China and Russia get a stop with this foothold. 90 miles from Miami. Miami, 90 miles. We've been dealing with this since the 1960s. What blows me away is that President Trump is below water when it comes to foreign policy, when you think about the threat that's been removed in Venezuela, when you think about what we've, what we've done to neutralize with the Abraham Accords, and to neutralize, at the very least, and hopefully it'll end spectacularly with Iran, and then would you see what he's doing with Cuba? You see also how he was able to flip Bolivia, Argentina and work with El Salvador and really with the Mexican government and what they've done to destroy these cartels and then bring them to Kyr to face justice along with what happened at the border. I'm pretty sure people realize at one point that foreign policy matters. It.