“I Don’t Want to do That:” Trump Weighs More Iran Strikes

Summary

Brian Kilmeade Show – June 9, 2026

Episode: "I Don’t Want to do That:” Trump Weighs More Iran Strikes

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Episode Overview

This episode of the Brian Kilmeade Show covered significant ground on national and international affairs, including breaking news on Meta’s ambitious trade skills initiative, fraught U.S.-Iran negotiations, Israel’s security situation, campaign controversies in Maine and California, and analysis of Game 3 of the Knicks-Spurs NBA Finals—with President Trump in attendance. The show featured high-profile guests such as Dina Powell McCormick (Meta), Mike Rowe (MicroWorks Foundation), Lt. Col. Allen West, Dick Stockton (retired sportscaster), Michael Makofsky (Jewish Institute for National Security of America), and Karl Rove (political strategist).

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Key Segments & Highlights

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1. Meta’s America’s Workforce Academy: Big Commitment to Trade Skills

[00:15–12:26]

Announcement & Rationale

• Dina Powell McCormick (President of Meta) and Mike Rowe (CEO, MicroWorks Foundation) announced America’s Workforce Academy, a paid-training and credentialing program to address the dire need for skilled trades in the wake of the AI/data center boom.
• Huge demand: Meta received 35,000 applications for 1,000 fiber technician slots in their pilot "Level Up" program.
• Commitment: Meta pledged $115 million to fund the Academy’s first year.

“Everyone deserves a pathway to being part of this economic revitalization and transformation... no one in America should be left behind, that the future is for everyone.”
— Dina Powell McCormick [01:21]

Program Details

• Paid on-site training and credentialing.
• Guaranteed job offers at Meta datacenters for successful participants, but credentials are transferable.
• Intention to partner with other companies—“We’d be honored to work with more companies across the board.” [09:40]

Societal Impact & Private Sector Challenge

• Rowe framed the program as throwing down a gauntlet to other corporations:

“The color of collars is over. This is a bold new world. Training and certification are on equal playing fields, if not even a little elevated.”
— Mike Rowe [08:30]

• Veterans and women are target cohorts, with high application rates.
• National Urban League partnering to ensure diverse nominations.

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2. US & Iran: Escalation, Negotiations, and Uncertainty

[19:05–26:21], [45:48–46:10], [56:44–66:26], [93:14–106:26]

Diplomatic Chaos and Military Options

• Kilmeade and guests analyzed ongoing “final throes” diplomacy with Iran amid Middle East tensions.
• President Trump is portrayed as reluctant to escalate militarily but deeply skeptical of Iran’s sincerity.

“I just don’t think it’s true... I just don’t believe they’re either on the same page, period, or I… believe they are working against each other.”
— Brian Kilmeade on the U.S./Iran talks [19:25]

• Allen West drew a 1938 Munich analogy, warning against trusting the Iranian regime.
• Iranian parliamentarian on CNN declared that “negotiation is part of the battle” and denied willingness to discuss nuclear capabilities [22:47, 23:19].

Israel-Hezbollah-Iran Triangle

• Israeli officials (cut translations) and Michael Makofsky supported robust self-defense against Iranian proxies, with debate over political versus security motivations.
• Makofsky cautioned that any daylight between the U.S. and Israel encourages Iranian belligerence:

“If we want more leverage with the Iranians, we want to show absolutely no daylight with the Israelis, and we want to support the Israelis as they try to degrade Iran's main proxy.”
— Michael Makofsky [62:11]

• General Jack Keane reinforced the idea that the Iranian regime will only yield under fear of falling.

Trump’s Calculus on Strikes

• Trump is described as deeply reluctant to inflict mass casualties but open to further strikes if negotiations completely stall.

“If we go and bomb, which we can do very easily if we want, and we spend another two or three weeks bombing, they'll have nothing left whatsoever... But who wants to do that? I don't. We'll have a signed document that's actually stronger than doing the bombing.”
— Donald Trump [95:00]

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3. Politics: Maine and California Primary Drama

[13:12–15:14], [75:47–81:44], [81:24–89:03]

Maine Democratic Senate Race Scandal

• In-depth scrutiny of Graham Platner, the Democratic frontrunner for Susan Collins’ Senate seat.
• Platner accused of embellishing his oyster farming credentials, misusing veteran disability status, questionable personal conduct (notably on social media with teens), and repeated dishonesty.

“This guy's a creep.”
— Karl Rove on Graham Platner [78:57]

• Prominent Democrats caught in awkward positions, not defending Platner but not opposing him outright.

“I'm not saying what has transpired is OK.”
— Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez [79:15]

California’s LA Mayoral Race: Voting System Woes

• Allegations of slow vote-counting, weak ID standards, and suspicious late surges pushing Republican Spencer Pratt from frontrunner status to out of the runoff.
• Both Kilmeade and guests underscore that the process fuels deep distrust—even if not strictly “rigged.”

“I'm not saying it's rigged. I'm saying it stinks to high heaven. Everybody knows that... Let's have votes on the day of the election.”
— Speaker Mike Johnson [84:57]

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4. Knicks-Spurs NBA Finals: Presidential Presence & Political Commentary

[32:54–40:00], [49:57–55:28], [67:31–69:16], [92:08–92:34]

Game Analysis and Trump’s Attendance

• President Trump attended Game 3 at Madison Square Garden; security was extremely heavy, causing long waits.
• Mixed crowd reaction—compared to the awe/roar of a Mike Tyson arena entrance, rather than clear boos/cheers.

“It sounded like when Mike Tyson walked into the ring ... you just heard noise. Like the whole thing just lifted up.”
— Brian Kilmeade [35:43]

• Commentary on Trump's lifelong Knicks fandom; criticism of those calling him an opportunist.
• ESPN's Stephen A. Smith blasted Trump's appearance as "narcissistic” and “selfish,” even blaming Knicks’ loss on him [53:46].

“How do you spell blowhard? ... It’s a little above his pay grade to even comment on why the President shouldn’t be at a game.”
— Dick Stockton [54:19]

• Discussion of the Spurs' gritty win, tactics, and officiating controversies with Dick Stockton and others.

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5. US–Israel Relationship: Tensions and Coordination

[56:44–66:26], [93:14–99:44]

• Makofsky and Farley Weiss (Israeli Justice Organization) agreed (despite some administration signals) that long-term US strategic interest is strongly aligned with supporting Israel’s defense.
• Israeli PM Netanyahu’s robust response to Iranian/Hezbollah aggression is seen as essential both for security and domestic Israeli politics.
• Both express skepticism about the effectiveness—and honesty—of Iran’s negotiating stance.

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6. Border Security and Immigration Enforcement

[69:16–71:41]

• ICE Director Tom Homan promises more federal agents for New York City after Governor Hochul limited ICE access.
• Political ramifications discussed for upcoming New York and New Jersey elections.

“If you’re not going to cooperate, I’m just going to put more agents in, it’s going to create more havoc.”
— Brian Kilmeade [70:01]

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7. Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• Mike Rowe: “The color of collars is over... Training and certification are on equal playing fields, if not even a little elevated...” [08:30]
• Dina Powell: “It is bigger than Meta... America’s Workforce Academy is really attempting to scale this in a big way with anyone that wants to work with us.” [09:40]
• Allen West: “The people that have the guns are the ones that have the power in Iran, and that's the head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps.” [20:56]
• Donald Trump: “If we go and bomb ... they'll have nothing left... But who wants to do that? I don't.” [95:00]
• Speaker Johnson: “I'm not saying it's rigged. I'm saying it stinks to high heaven. And everybody knows that.” [84:57]
• Dick Stockton: “How do you spell blowhard? ... Stephen A. Smith ... what he was accusing President Trump of doing is what he would do at any time.” [54:19]

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Timestamps for Key Topics

• Meta’s workforce initiative: [00:15–12:26]
• US–Iran negotiations: [19:05–26:21], [45:48–46:10], [56:44–66:26], [93:14–106:26]
• Knicks-Spurs with Trump at the Garden: [32:54–40:00], [49:57–55:28], [67:31–69:16]
• Political campaigns (Maine, California): [13:12–15:14], [75:47–81:44], [81:24–89:03]
• Israel security situation: [56:44–66:26], [93:14–99:44]
• Border and ICE policy: [69:16–71:41]

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Flow / Tone

• Lively, conversational, and sometimes combative— typical of talk radio.
• Mix of policy wonkiness, athletic metaphors, political gossip, and direct interviews with high-profile newsmakers.
• Occasional self-deprecating humor and “locker-room” banter, especially regarding sports and celebrity culture.
• Strong advocacy for skilled trade education and blue-collar upward mobility.

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Summary Notes for Listeners:

• This episode captures the intersection of workforce innovation, global security crises, high-stakes political campaigns, and the spectacle of sports—with President Trump at the literal center court.
• The host presses for skepticism about Iran’s leaders and about processes (political, voting, or diplomatic) that seem opaque or susceptible to manipulation.
• Expect a pro-trade skills, pro-veteran, and pro-Israel point of view, with pointed criticisms for both Republican and Democratic politicians deemed to lack “character.”
• The NBA Finals and election controversies serve both as news stories and as metaphors for the broader “contests” of American society and global affairs.

Transcript

[A]

From the FOX News radio studios in midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmeade,

[B]

so glad you're there. It's the Brian Kilmeade Show. An exciting week and two days away from the World Cup. That should be great. Last night I went to game three of Nick spurs, which was great. Present was there, had a chance to talk to him. It was fantastic. But the Knicks weren't, they were average at best and spurs were fantastic. Lt. Col. Allen west in Texas is going to love that in 35 minutes. But it's my privilege to bring in two people I respect among the most in the world. Dina Powell McCormick, president now of Metta and they have a big announcement because she is with Micro, the CEO of MicroWorks foundation, one of the most respected people in the country who doesn't has never worn a tie according to reports. Never worn a tie. Dina, I knew how important Mike, in my opinion, we've known each other for a while. I've never seen you as upbeat as you were in Pennsylvania. I think it was when you sat on a panel with Senator Dave McCormick and you talked about the need for blue collar workers and how it's going to interact with the future. That all plays into your big announcement today, right, Dina?

[C]

It sure does. And Brian, thank you so much for having us on. It is such a special honor for me to be with Mike someone, as you say, I have ADM for so many years. You know, folks today are talking about the American workforce, but it really started with Mike and Mike Roarks Foundation 18 years ago. He has been saying these are American heroes on a different kind of front line which is building America. And at Meta, we have truly long believed that everyone deserves a pathway to being part of this economic revitalization and transformation. It's just been there are too many barriers today. We need 500,000 new electricians in the in the United States over the next four years. And yet awesome people who could be candidates for that just can't make it there right now for a few reasons. If you're a Uber driver, if you are a grocery clerk, if you're a waitress, like how I paid my way through college waiting tables. You can't take a week or two or three or four off to get the training. And so what America's Workforce Academy does is provide individuals like those extraordinary Americans with paid training, a credential that they'll have for life and a guaranteed job on a Meta work site. And we just really believe that during this transformation, no one in America should be left behind, that the future is for everyone.

[B]

And because of these data centers, especially. Right, Mike, that are going to forge Meta into AI and everything else. You need electricians, you need plumbers, you need pipe fitters to do that. So tell me how this program's going to work.

[D]

Well, I mean, yeah, the data centers are a big deal. And it's worth saying, too, that it's not like they just popped out of nowhere on account of AI. Data centers have been around for. For decades, and they're at the root of every form of modern connectivity that we know of. It's just a question of scaling them, and the challenge is to do it yesterday. We're in a race. China plays for keeps. And this is a really important part of building out what Larry Fink has described as a $10 trillion infrastructure. We have the money and we have the will, but we just don't have the skilled labor in place. And, Brian, you know, I'm a broken record on this. We've been talking about it for years. But the thing that's exciting for me is to see consequential companies in the Fortune 500 really paying attention to this, and you'll see leaders emerge in the coming weeks and months. I'm delighted that MET is doing this, because to your point, what they've done is they've taken the friction out of the transaction. And so if you're a young man or woman who is honestly trying to figure out if there's a future for you in the skilled trades, but balancing that against transportation cost, training cost, tools, various certifications, it's daunting, you know, and the barrier to entry has always been a problem. So I think the private sector is going to play an enormous role in correcting that. I think Meta, whether they intended to or not, has thrown down a gauntlet. There is an on ramp into these jobs. They've greased the skids. And I guarantee people are listening to this right now and doing the math and coming to the conclusion that these are opportunities.

[B]

So, Dina, you launch Level Up. It's a smaller training program focused on fiber installment, and in the first seven days, you received 35. 35,000 applications for a thousand openings. So demand is not the problem. You also, if I'm right, have put $115 million commitment into the first year for people to train. Knowing that I'm training instead of hoping to get a job, they will get a job out of it.

[C]

Absolutely. You know, honestly, Fiber up is. Excuse me, Level up is what showed us the real Demand that was a program very focused on an important role on any infrastructure site. A fiber technician, the woman or man who is actually laying the fiber piping. In four weeks with Level up, you got the training on site. And as Mike said, we paid for all the costs. We paid for you to come to the site in Ohio. We just launched this to get the on site training. You graduate with a license as a fiber technician and as I said earlier, a job at a Meta site. But we understand if you might want to work at a different site too, you might take that credential and go elsewhere. 1000, we thought, was a good number to just really start and test the program. When we launched Brian, we could not believe that we got 35,000 applications. And it really is how we then went to Mark and the leadership at Meta and said, there's something really big here and we've got to scale it. And America's workforce Academy is really attempting to do just that, working alongside of a number of partners. But I got to tell you something that I think will matter a lot to you. Not only do we actually have, as Mike has always said for years, a number of veterans who would like to go into these trades. I think of this in a very, I think, historic way. During World War II, America came together to literally physically build the arsenal that defeated tyranny in the world. And we believe those American heroes are more needed than ever today because if we don't build the AI infrastructure required, we don't win the race in AI and we let other countries take that advantage. And so we think these are the people that are going to help America win.

[B]

So, Mike, help me with this. You have all these scholarships and you said, you know, for people to go to a trade school and you said, I don't have enough people that want to get into the trades. Now Dean is coming out saying I had 35,000 applications for a thousand openings. What's changing? Or what about the calculus do I have wrong?

[D]

Well, nothing really. It's just that there's not a playbook that's going to resonate in every state, every town, every community and every zip code all at the same time. Part of what you're asking asking is a little bit out of my pay grade. But I've mentioned a terrific book to you before called Men Without Work by Nick Eberstadt. He's a great economist and he'll tell you that right now there's 6.8 million able bodied men who are not only not working, they're not looking for Work that's never happened in the history of our country. Not in peacetime anyway. And so you've got a giant cohort who's waiting to be persuaded. At least some of them are. So how do you talk to that cohort? How do you talk to the, the kid who's open minded but whose parents, God bless him, have it in their heads that the only path for them requires a four year degree? How do you make that case? Right. So we have to come at this thing from a lot of different angles. The feds have a role to play. Private, private industry has a role to play. Guidance counselors and parents. What I love that, what Dina is saying essentially is that we're going to put our thumb on the scale in this direction.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

For once, for once we're going to say, look, the future does belong to everybody. It's wide and it's vast and you have options. But this idea that going in one direction is, it's, is going to doom you to a life of like turning a wrench or something. That is over. The color of collars is over. This is a bold new world. Training and certification are on equal playing fields, if not even a little elevated than, than the traditional four year rubric. And as you know, Brian, that's, you know, that's near and dear to me. And finally too, what these guys are doing is a big part of the solution. But it's not the only way. Trade schools aren't going away in my estimation. They're going to be apprenticeships and scholarships and fellowships. And the real headline that I, that I hope you guys run with is that, is that Meta is essentially challenging every other grown up company in this country to do in their own way, something that rhymes. That's powerful.

[B]

Hey, Dina.

[C]

Well, and Brian. Yes, sorry, go ahead.

[B]

No, go ahead.

[C]

I was just going to say, you know, one of the things that we're really proud of is that it's called America's Workforce Academy because it is bigger than Meta. And yes, we are proud to have launched this initial phase with a number of great partners. We want to have more partners. We would be honored to work with more companies across the board. And many companies that we work with now have incredible programs, whether it's GM and Ford or BlackRock and Larry Fink and the leadership that he's doing. And so we are really excited to scale this in a big way with anybody that wants to work with us. And the National Urban League and Marc Morial are going to be a nominating partner. So we make sure. People from all over are able to get into these trades. The women in trades. You know, there's a nor. What's the percentage, Mike, of women going into these fields?

[D]

You know, it's funny, we were talking last night at dinner about this that the national average, if you look at women in construction, it'll vary from vertical to vertical. But in my foundation, and I don't know why this is the case, but we've got maybe 3,500 people we've assisted and the percentage of women entering the welding trade is shockingly high. We're at like 3x the national average. Don't know why, but to my earlier point, that's another cohort. And I'm telling you, they. They're ready to go. You just have to meet them where they are and make a more persuasive.

[B]

And Dina, you guys got to. You were told me you had to be out right now, so I'm going to keep that in mind. But my last question to you is how did you do it? I mean, I've known Mike for a much longer. We've never had dinner and you barely. You start a partnership, you're having dinner, you're talking casually professionally.

[E]

Why?

[B]

How did that happen?

[C]

Listen, I feel pretty honored and lucky. I've been a girl fan of Mike Ro for time and so is Brian. And I will tell you, and I will tell you, one of my daughters was there last night and I felt so proud to introduce her to Mike because I hope that this generation of young people recognize the honor and dignity of work and recognize how much they need to respect the men and women that are in these fields, in these positions. And I just think it's really important to what Mike said that there, there is. Is dignity today. Every kind of field.

[B]

Right? And Dina, if you do decide to continue to work with Mike and he wants. And you want him to do your commercial, he'll do it on an iPhone, working in a. Walking in a park. So he comes very cheap. Watched him do these ads. I don't know how the hell he pulls this off.

[C]

We are, we are excited to support him. I mean, I'm sorry, he's got a voice for radio and a face for TV and that's like a pretty special combination.

[D]

Well, Brian, listen man, I got some time later today if you want to hit the in and out burger Mike Street.

[B]

That's fine. A drive through. Fantastic. You got it.

[C]

Thank you.

[B]

Brian McCormick, congratulations on the job too. And of course Mike Rowe was great to have you on. They have A great announcement. America's Workforce Academy. Back in a moment.

[A]

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[B]

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[E]

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[A]

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[B]

Hey, we are back. I just want to. I know we don't usually start with news like that, but Mike Rowe and Dina Powell are fantastic. And that's a huge announcement, especially if you know anybody in your family that's good with their hands, good building things, and maybe want a career change. They're gonna say, we're hiring, you know, apply, and then you're gonna get a job. So meanwhile, Maine is a big day today, and it's a huge story. Why Graham Platner, who's this guy, a total phony? He's not an oyster farmer. You know how much money he made oyster farming? $5,000. You know how much money he made last year? Like 70, 57,000 of those dollars was with disability from his days in the military, which I'm sure he deserves. I don't know why he got. He doesn't seem hurt to me. But $57,000, whether it was combined with what he did, I appreciate his service. But he's got a. He's got people speaking out there. For example, his last chief of staff that resigned has a editorial in the Wall Street Journal today simply to say that this guy has lied to me every step of the way. And since I left the campaign, he continues to lie. And here's the thing. Republicans should love this because you thought you were going to flip Susan Collins and let the last Republican seat in the Northeast, which Susan Collins holds. And you know, MAGA people don't like Susan Collins. But Susan Collins is in an independent state that leans left, so she can't go signing on to most conservative causes. So meanwhile, Graham Platner has called women who are raped, say, well, just don't drink so much. She talks about online, sees a guy getting shot by the Taliban and says, he should really be dead. I wish he was dead. He should have been murdered. He also has a Nazi tattoo that he goes, I got a tattoo. I don't know what it means. Just let that sit for a while. So, so now here are the Democrats standing up for this guy who now is on a dating site called Kik, which is predominantly 70% teenagers up until 2025. You're going to blame PTSD for that. But no, Democrats got his back cut for one of my primary roles is

[A]

to help flip the House this November. So I've been laser focused on House races. I have not followed Senate races. I'm aware there are multiple controversies regarding Mr. Platner. I urge him to be fully transparent and the voters of Maine will make their decision.

[D]

I haven't followed these allegations closely, but what I have said is that violence against women in any way, shape or form is unacceptable.

[B]

You know, I'm focused on my district and I'm not really focused on his race, but I'm very, as you said, unsettled by a lot of different things about him. But you're not coming out against Amaria. He's gonna win. And I think it's the best thing for Susan Collins. And hopefully people understand that even though she, you know, for these people who want to say she's maga, you crazy. She voted to impeach President Trump. Right now she's voting to invoke the War Powers act to stop him from continuing to put military assets and fight in Iran should we need to go back to fight. So nice try, but if I'm Republicans, I hope he gets the nomination, but keep an eye on that. The other thing that's unbelievably disturbing is what's going on in Los Angeles. I don't know about voter fraud. I wouldn't know. I don't have any assets on the ground there to go check it out. But the way they do it, everybody gets an application. If you don't have voter id, no problem. You could use things like a gym membership or a student id. What? I could go make that break down the block now on 42nd Street. Planet Hollywood could get me the ability to vote. So you have Spencer Pratt, who is a close second on election day and held that up until the weekend, now trailing and now virtually out of any possibility of being the runoff for the mayoral race. You know why? Because the last batch and surge of votes were for a left wing candidates for defund the police and for socialism and giving needles to drug addicts. That's the attitude. And all of a sudden all these ramen, these ramen votes come in not for Bass, who's already locked it up, but for Ramen. Now, it might be in the up and up. If you take two weeks to count your votes, don't expect me not to be skeptical, number one. Number two is if you're going to mail everyone an application. Don't expect me not to be skeptical. And number three, if you have a surge of votes that has a fringe candidate, go into the second place and knock off one of the most electric candidates and charismatic figures that I've seen come on the scene since Donald Trump, color me skeptical, but it looks like Spencer Pratt is out. And if it, if it is on the up and up and all these votes counted, only the people with the proper ID did vote and only people in Los Angeles who are eligible did. And the phonies didn't show up, let's just say you did. The people of Los Angeles, you're number one in homeless. More people left by the tune of 51,000 last year that came into one of the most exciting cities in the world because of high taxes and living conditions. And you voted for the same thing. After you watch specific Palisades burn up, you actually put someone in a runoff that would have been worse than Karen Bass. Good luck to you.

[D]

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[A]

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[F]

They were going back and forth and now they both agreed through me to stop. And we're in the final throes of what will be a very, very good deal that will not allow in any way, shape or form nuclear weapons, etc. And Strait will open up right away. It'll open up immediately upon signing, which could be in two or three days

[B]

with the President wants is, you know, right now the market's up significantly, 288 points. Why? Because the President says peace is close. And I understand that, but I just don't think it's true. I think the people the presidents are talking to are letting them think that or his negotiators are telling him that and they're not making it up. I just don't believe they're either on the same page, period, or I don't believe that they are working. Either that or they're working against each other. So you might have the Foreign Minister Arachi speaking with Steve Witkoff, and he might say, listen, let's get this done. Let's just get this done. We'll get this straight open. We need some funds unfrozen, whatever the deal is. And I believe that guys from the IRGC are saying we're not getting anything done. I don't know why you're talking to him, or they're doing good cop, bad cop thing. And the foreign minister will say, well, Mr. President, I'm sorry, I know we had a deal, but I just got blasted by the IRGC and now we're gonna go into a delay again. And what they have is they feel as though there's more political pressure on President Trump than there is on the Iranians, who don't care about their people starving. Remember, Tehran ran out of water. They have like a million rials for every $1. They have a worthless, a worthless currency. That was before the war. Can you imagine what it is now when they shut down oil exportation? Lt. Col. Allen west joins us now, the American Constitutional Rights Union Executive Director, former Congressman of Florida. He joins us from Dallas. Colonel, welcome back. Your thought of where we're at right now, what the President just said, well,

[G]

it's good to be back here in the United States. It's good to be with you. And again, you always have to understand the enemy has a vote. And so you can sit up and make these pronunciations, but the Iranians are also the people sitting at the table. And having just come back from Normandy, this reminds me, I think it was a 1938, 1939 Munich Conference when Sir Neville Chamberlain went over and sat down with Adolf Hitler. And of course, Chamberlain came back and waived the document saying that I have a signed document from Herr Hitler. There'll be peace in our time. And of course, later on, Adolf Hitler said it was just a piece of paper. So I don't think that you can trust these guys. And as you just articulated, who are the ones that you're really talking to? Who are the ones that you, quote, unquote, are making a deal with? And I will tell you that the people that have the guns are the ones that have the power in Iran, and that's the head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps. So this foreign minister or this president or even the invisible supreme leader, they're not the ones pulling the strings. And so you have to be concerned about what the leader of their Praetorian Guard is saying.

[B]

Yeah, and I think the foreign minister, you know, I would know. And we don't know the dynamics of Iran's terroristic parliament. But I don't, I don't know if they say, hey, I have an idea you be extreme and I'll be reasonable. And our goal is to string it out. So now we're at eight weeks. Or you have a foreign minister say you killed everybody, which we killed between 60 and 80 of their leaders. And now I'm left with a guy that thinks he's running things, but just an extremist. Now the army's, the regular army's not getting paid. The military, the irgc, I guess, is still getting paid. So having said that, I want you to hear the head of Iran's parliament speak to CNN last night. He's the head of the Parliament's National Security and Foreign policy committee. Cut 22.

[H]

We don't think that he's honest, but we have said many times that we accept a negotiation as a continuation of the battlefield. We consider negotiation to be part of the battle. If we could be convinced that there is sincerity in the Americans, especially in the President of the United States, and if we could reach confidence that they are people of negotiation and that they also submit to the rules of negotiation, then the Islamic Republic would have no problem with negotiating.

[B]

Really? That's interesting. He goes on cut 23.

[H]

We do not see a serious will to reach a framework that could actually be implemented. And I think with regard to Iran's blocked assets, this is in fact a very clear and prominent example of that. As for uranium enriched materials, enrichments itself and nuclear issues, we are not currently negotiating on those matters. There is no discussion of them because it is not intended that we should have negotiations on those issues at this stage.

[B]

What are we talking about then, Colonel? I mean, this is so frustrating. What are we talking about if we're not talking about nuclear weapons? Is this guy just making it up?

[G]

Well, and that's, that's the point that I think you and I are trying to get at is that there's so many mixed messages that are out there. And when I listen to that head of their parliament, that does not sound like someone that's defeated. That does not sound like. It may be propaganda, I get it, but it does not sound like someone that says we're getting our butts handed to us. And so when you are sitting there saying we want to try and negotiate, make a deal so that the straits get open. No, we need to open the strait, we need to take control of that. Just the same was with Carg Island. We need to bring them down to their knees. And I think the most important thing you just kind of hit on it is create a separation, create a chasm between the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps and the regular army because the people of Iran don't have any weapons. They can't defend themselves. So who can be the advocate for them? If you want to have some type of military action, it has to be the regular army of the. Of Iran. And they need to be the ones that we co. Opt against the Revolutionary Guard Corps. And so somehow we need to foment those seeds of dissension.

[B]

Yeah. So I don't know where we go from here, but he's the only president to take on Iran. I would love to see him finish the job. And indications are to me that if they're still screwing around in November, then he would. But they really are concerned about losing the Senate and House because they do have great energy policies. You know that.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

And we should be having $2. Go ahead.

[G]

I just think if we're still messing around with this, you know, as we come heading towards Labor Day, we've lost the initiative. We really have. We've lost the operational tempo and they have seized that initiative. And I don't want to see us lose a moral high ground in this, but we're. We're slipping toward that if regain the momentum and we've got to make sure they're defeated. Kind of remembers. Reminds me of that opening scene from the movie Gladiator when Maximus the General said. They said no when they sent the Roman negotiator back riding on top of a horse without his head. That's where I think we are.

[B]

I do, too. I do, too. I got to get you on. You're all about character. Anybody that knows you, you do the right thing no matter what, whether it costs you your job or whatever it takes, that matters to you. Integrity. And I see Graham Plattner just the opposite. But yet you both served in the military you Much longer, obviously. What do you think about a guy that says, I've acted in embarrassing ways? My words. But that's the way he describes it. But he says because of ptsd.

[G]

Well, see, and that's what I hate about, you know, that's always going to be his fallback. No, you lack character, you lack integrity, you lack honor. Just because it's you. And there's a delineation between those of us that, you know, served in the military, honored our oath, and people that just wore a uniform. And I think that Graham Platner is the latter and not the former. So every veteran is not exactly a veteran that leads an honorable life. And I think that the people in Maine, the Democrat Party, needs to make a decision. I Mean, this is the standard bearer that they want to have out there trousing this guy around. As a former Marine and a veteran, you know, he's turning veterans off right now. Tell you that.

[B]

Listen to him describe himself. By the way, he's on this Kick website. I'm reading Mark Thiessen's column. I don't know much about it. So he's on this kid up to 2025 blaming PTSD. It's most of the app has as users, teenagers. Kick is one of the top 10 apps used by teens in America. Why would a guy who should be oyster farming be on an app talking to teens? Oh, wait a second. He's not really an oyster farmer. You know how much money he made selling oysters? $5,000. $5,000. But he's on 50,000 plus for disability from his years in the military. So it's a double joke. He's not even an oyster farmer.

[G]

Yeah, well, again, you know, when you peel the onion back, you see something that is rotten to the core. But this is who the Democrats are. I mean, you know, we had this discussion about this Humwe guy from New Jersey that was a defense witness for the blind shake at World Trade Tower bombs. You know, America needs to look at the Democrat Party and say, do we really want to be associated with these type of people and the candidates that they're, you know, putting forth? Because they're not just radical, they're militant, and they are people that really do seek to meet to undermine this constitutional republic. Character doesn't matter in the Democrat Party today.

[B]

But what do you say to people that say, what did you guys do in Texas nominating Ken Paxton?

[G]

Oh, look, you know, without it, I will tell you, in the runoff, I did not vote for Corner nor for Paxton, because I just felt that I couldn't give them my vote. I voted for Wesley Hunt in the primary. Now, when it comes down to the general election, I will be casting a vote against James Talarico, more so than for Ken Paxton. I need to see some remorse from Ken Paxton, because right now we keep rewarding bad behavior.

[B]

I'll tell you one thing about John Cornyn. Classy guy. He's a wonderful human being. You might not like something he did with this or that, but as a human being, I think he's a fantastic guy, and he did a lot for the party. I thought, you know, you got. You live in Texas, but I just thought it would be a huge plus if he had stayed in there.

[G]

Well, I think the saying that coming back to Character. There are some people that made a decision here in Texas that we will push aside character because we want, you know, someone that care these policies. But with John Corny had someone that had a pretty decent character but his policies weren't on track. And so you got to have a marriage of the two, the right character and the right policies. And I think you'll go far. But that's what America needs today.

[B]

How close is that wall to being done in Texas?

[G]

I can tell you that right now the big deal for folks down through the Big Bend national park area, they really don't want to see a wall go through there. I think that a contiguous wall is not smart. But if you have an integrated security system that. So I think the last check may be 35 to 40% of it is complete.

[B]

So do you feel as though they're not being heard that they would be maybe a virtual wall? And if that is the case, I'm sure the President would love to save some money and maybe go to a high tech border.

[G]

Yeah, I mean, is anyone listening? Yeah, you should have Brandon Herrera, who is the Republican nominee for that congressional district and he'll probably end up winning. You should have him on the show to talk about, you know, his, what he sees down there. That area of the Big Bend, that sector is in the congressional district that he would represent. So yeah, I think virtual security wall would be fantastic. You know, having those border patrol agents on the ground and you channel people into the right areas that you can control.

[B]

Colonel, how was D Day? How was the D Day commemoration where you jump every year?

[G]

I gotta tell you, Brian, you know, I took another 25 college students over through the Young America's Foundation. It's just an incredible opportunity for us to connect this, this present generation with what the greatest generation did. And when you're standing there on Omaha beach, on, you know, Dog Sector, Easy Sector, Fox Sector, when you stand in there and some of these drop zones at Dead Man's Corner or Utah beach, it's just incredible. And this year I got a chance to go down to Pegasus Bridge where the British six paras, they came in on three gliders and held that bridge. It's just a remarkable day and we need to, we need to honor it here in the States like they do over in France. So maybe one day you and I, we can do a live broadcast from, from Normandy.

[B]

That'll be great. That would be excellent. And this year was commemorating 250 and hopefully we'll, we'll hook up on that too. Lieutenant Colonel Allen west, thanks so much.

[G]

Thank you, Brian. God bless you, man.

[B]

Back at you. 1-866-408-7669. We have lots more to discuss including the Nick spurs game last night which had the President go there. People say he was being booed. It was loud and there were some people boom. But I would say it was 50. 50. I, I might. I'll give you my analogy next because it's something I know directly because I covered both things. So the analogy I'll bring up right after the break. Don't move.

[A]

Politics, current events and news that affects you. Brian's got a lot more to say. Stay with Brian Kilmeade, A radio show like no other. It's Brian Kilmeade.

[B]

Stefan Castle, huge free throw here. Oh, so clutch for Castle. The Knicks will use their final timeout that makes it a four point game. Brunson's look like anything to lob it?

[E]

Nope.

[B]

Anunoby corner three fires away shots no good.

[E]

And the spurs win.

[B]

What a response from San Antonio.

[E]

They do it again.

[B]

An inspiring road win and they are right back in the series. The Nick lead cut two games to one. And remember they were in Oklahoma City and won the deciding game, Game seven. And they knocked off the defending champ. So they're not going to be intimidated. But it was pretty wild game. I was actually there diagonally down from the President. Had a chance to go up and talk to him for a little while, which is great. But the fans were amazing. I mean I was covered, I was doing all sports and not a fox. And I covered sports during the heyday of the Knicks when they had Patrick Ewing and Larry Johnson and for 15 years they were in contention, but they were knocked off by Miami, knocked off by the Bulls. You know, sometimes they beat Miami, sometimes they beat the Pacers, sometimes they didn't. Never got a championship. Lost to Keem Olajuwon and the Rockets. They lost to David Robinson and Tim Duncan of the Spurs. And then to see them come back all the way with a bunch of no name outstanding players who are better collectively than individual. It was really cool. But it is not over. And San Antonio plays with a lot of heart and very organized. They made huge adjustments and we'll see what's gotta happen with game four tomorrow. The President's there and let me just tell you, if the President knew the amount of security that people had to go through, I think that he would have been upset and I think it was just overcompensation. Listen, I've never done security for a major Event, I give you that. But literally, to walk four blocks, it took me 90 minutes. Excuse me, two blocks, it took me 90 minutes. And then when you get into the building to go through the magnetometers for the fourth time again, nobody brought bags. They were told, don't bring any bags. I don't see anyone. There's almost no one with any bags. And it still took another half hour. So by the time you get in, people little ticked off. And that's why when the President was introduced, you heard a mixed response. The most you saw a picture of him saluting during the national anthem. And here's what the reception sound like. Cut 37.

[F]

Well, the game was fantastic. Well played by both teams. We all had a lot of fun. It was great to watch very talented players.

[B]

What did you think of the reception you got from the Knicks fans tonight?

[F]

I thought great. I mean, I thought it was amazing, actually. Give me a win. They had the camera on me. I thought it was very good. Yeah, it was certainly amazing. It was. It was, I think, mostly cheers. It was. It was loud and it was very enthusiastic.

[B]

The thing is, he's a legitimate Knick fan. That's been one thing where even though Knicks were bad, he'd be going to the Knick games. Everybody knows it, so don't even kid around about it. Idiotic people that say he's like Hakeem Jeffries. Hakeem Jeffries who say he's not a Nick fan. Even Whoopi Goldberg defended him and said, president of Nick fan. She saw him at the game all the time when he was just a famous billionaire. So with president, when he walked, when they announced him, I'm sitting right there, and I don't care what anyone says. I don't know what the broadcast showed. People told me it sounded like booing. That's fine. You know what it sounded like when Mike Tyson walked into the ring, Whether it was Atlantic City or in Las Vegas, it was just all you heard was a roar, almost as if people were in all awe. So you just heard noise. Like the whole thing just lifted up. And you just heard this thing. And that's what happened with Mike Tyson. Like, people couldn't figure out whether he was a villain or he was a favorite. But when he walked in, it was so. It was happening. And that's what the President had and will always have, because this guy's a controversial guy, but he's an impactful guy and he's bold. But they. But to get there and to leave was so overdone. If anybody was booing, it might have been because a lot of it say, okay, maybe it's New York in both form. The other part of is it took you an extra two hours to get into the building. So and they said flat out, oh, we're doing this because the president's here. So they had no interest in softening the blow. And a lot of the stuff that watch parties, they stopped because of the violence in game two.

[A]

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division, it's Brian Kilmeade.

[B]

So glad you're there. It's the Brian Kilmeade show. I'm at 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan, four blocks where there were, there were arrests because of a viewing party. Because you can't have a viewing party, party at Bryant park, running a seat. So of course, the right reaction would be to throw chairs at each other and jump on cop cars. That's the story in New York City and it's embarrassing. And I saw a lot of it last night because I went to the game. We're going to have the great Dick Stockton. He's now retired sportscaster, still at the top of his game to break down what went wrong for the Knicks last night, what went right for San Antonio. Michael McCoffsky is going to be with us, President, CEO of the Jewish Institute for National Security of America. America. We're going to talk about the president's possible deal, which I think the president thinks he's close. I actually don't think it's going to come off. And then we'll do a simulcast with Stuart Varney and you'll get to see me on fbn, which will be great. And keep in mind, I'm being outnumbered at 12 today. And before we get to Dick Stockton, let's get to the big three.

[F]

Number three big, he's a nice guy, but you need a certain aptitude to run for president. You need a high iq. I'm not sure that Stephen has that. I don't think he does, actually.

[B]

He's talking about Stephen A. Smith who said that President Trump shouldn't go to the game. President Trump goes to Knick spurs game and makes history. Meanwhile, outside watch party said, as I just mentioned, unnecessary waiting, long lines and violence. And in the end, what's going to happen? The Knicks win or lose when this series is over, I am worried.

[I]

Number two, they think if they drag it out and get it close to the midterm elections in the United States, they're parents, a lot of attention to it, the likelihood is President Trump would not re attack. I think that is also likely a miscalculation.

[B]

Yes, I would think so. Iran and Israel exchanged missiles, but it's Israel that does the damage and perhaps eliminated a key IRGC leader. As President Trump says, the deal is close and Iran says the opposite.

[J]

Number one, if we can show that

[B]

a regular person from the regular world who is simply, simply comes out with a message saying that we all have

[J]

to work together, if we show that that works, we get to show this

[B]

country the way forward. Really, Graham Platner, you have to show me the way forward. Maine primary in June with major ramifications in November. As Graham Platner, the worst candidate in America is about to win in Maine, what does it mean for the control of the Senate? Meanwhile, Spencer Pratt's remarkable campaign for mayor of L A is about to go up in flames. And L A still hasn't counted all the votes. Votes. It's been two weeks. What are the bet? Where are the ballots coming from? Why is it going to the extreme candidate and not being split between the other extreme candidate who is a sitting mayor? Why are all those, all those ballots all coming from the person in third who's now moved into second, by the way. We're going to talk a little basketball in about 10 minutes but for now let's talk about what's happened in Los Angeles. And it's just outrageous. I'm not saying that it's all fraud or no fraud fraud. All I'm going to tell you is it should not take you and stop being acceptable in your city, in your state, in the state of California to wait two weeks to know who wins. And this happened last time and the time before that because you, if you put a your ballot in the mail and have a post date of last Tuesday, they count it and they wait two weeks for it to come. Do they have the worst post office in the history of man too? How about doing with Florida and Texas stuff us all the mail in ballots got to be in before the election, counted before the other ballots, before people vote. So this way when the ballots come in on voting day, you'll already have collected all the other votes, outstanding votes. It is just a joke. I don't know what happened, but I know that if I'm Spencer Pratt and I was closer to first than third and now I'm in third. I'm a little upset today. JD Vance does not like this cut nine.

[K]

How is it that you had, you know, Karen Bass was in first place Spencer Pratt was in second place and then this other woman was in third place. You would expect these mail in ballots to kind of meet that same basic pattern where, you know, number one would get the most votes, number two would get the second most votes and so on. But somehow we find ourselves in a situation where, number one, they're still receiving ballots. Not just counting ballots, Jesse, they're still receiving ballots. And number two, the way that they're coming in just so happens to work out such that the Republican is getting kicked out of the final two. So it's a Democrat versus Democrat runoff. That seems pretty shady to me, especially when you add on top of the fact that in California you are prohibited from asking for somebody's identification before they vote.

[B]

So the United States Attorney, Bill Saly is looking into this, this. And they wanted to get the voter rolls. You know what California state said, no, not giving you the voter rolls. He is the United States Attorney. You have to give them the voter rolls. But I guess they chose not to, so they'll have to sue. So if you don't have id, you can use your gym membership card and employee ID card or credit or debit card or prescription drug label or insurance card. So do you feel better about that? That the real person wants one? And I keep going back to it. Gavin Newsom said, what is the break the glass moment? What is the break the glass moment? Why did he say that? He said, you know, if it continues that, you know, two Republicans are leading the governor's race, we have a break the glass moment. What does that mean? Break the glass is what you do as a fire. Like when you have to pull the fire alarm, you break the glass and you hit the alarm. Howard, Harry Enton on CNN about this race. Cut 11. Yeah, this is the dumbest conspiracy theory

[A]

I have ever heard.

[B]

Because the Democratic establishment and Karen Bass wanted Spencer Pratt in the runoff. They don't want any part to do with Nithya Rahman.

[L]

Why is that?

[B]

Because just take a look here. Okay?

[L]

Mayor Ram runoff polls.

[B]

Bass versus opponent versus Pratt. Bass would have crushed Pratt by 18 points. That's what the polling showed. Look at how she does against Nithya Raman. On the other hand, Raman is head by four points. Bass has a real race on her hand. If in fact Romney is the one who advances. And of course the Democratic establishment is backing Karen Bass. But versus Spencer Pratt, she was crushing him. She wanted to face Pratt.

[L]

She wanted nothing to do with Rahman.

[B]

That's why these conspiracy theories, simply put, make no sense. People here's the difference. If I look at those numbers as hard numbers, actually voting tolls, then he's right. But Spencer Pratt is resident with more and more people in California. He was just coming on. He went from nowhere to everywhere. And now you know, he was three or four points behind in a three person race. Now he's buried, he's done. You saw him take apart Karen Bass. They would have had another debate and he would have killed her again and that would have finished her. That's the whole thing. She has a terrible track record and now the person running against her, her policies would make things worse. So now Karen Bass will win for me. That to me is obvious. That to me is clear. But he has a good point. He says head to head, this the way the polls say would have been a lot different. Here is bill of Sally cut 14. I have been demanding California hand over its photo rolls for an audit. We believe the rolls are dirty. We have many examples of people voting who should not have voted. California has refused. They're stonewalling, claiming that it would be a violation of their state privacy laws to hand over the data to the federal government. I mean it's just a completely ludicrous argument. I mean they're saying things like Social Security numbers would be a violation of state privacy laws to hand over. We issue the Social Security numbers. Yeah. So it just bothers me. And then finally with Iran. Iran, we got a situation where the President just says I want to extend the ceasefire, I don't want to continue to fight this out. And Iran doesn't need it either. They want some type of relief. But the President's got to make a tough decision. Does he unfreeze funds that are there and risk the comparison to Barack Obama? He certainly is not going to announce the amount. And we do froze their funds and it is their money, but their terroristic ways and you're seeing it again with the strait of Hormuzzi lose has got to stop. He was a president yesterday cut 16.

[F]

They were going back and forth and now they both agreed through me to stop. And we're in the final throes of what will be a very, very good deal that will not allow in any way, shape or form nuclear weapons, etc. And the Strait will open up right away. It'll open up immediately upon signing, which could be in two or three days.

[M]

Yeah.

[B]

So while black aid, which is very effective, you're releasing. We stopped another ship blew out their engine room because it wouldn't stop. They blew out one of those yesterday and we might be getting through some, through the strait right now. I don't want to get into detail, but that's where everyone feels. So we come back. I break down, I break down. What is going on with the next spurs series and why would the president going there made history last night. I'll give you some details. But before I go, the whole story about this friction between the US And Israel. They, they argue. Winston Churchill and FDR argued. Harry Truman and, and FDR and Winston Churchill argued. That's just the way it is. You, you, Charles de Gaulle, in that whole era, they argue with everybody. I don't think he initially even joined NATO. So for those people who think there's a fracture between Netanyahu and Trump, forget it. He argues with people. He always does. It's not personal. Cut 21.

[K]

Currently the fire on this front is held because after we struck the terror regime in Tehran, it ceased attacking us. Should the terror regime make the mistake

[B]

of attacking us again, we will respond

[K]

with force because Israel has the full

[B]

right to self defense and we will exercise it as much as necessary. Yeah, no doubt about it. And that's just it. The President, the president could say don't attack Iran, but if Iran rockets them, they're going to attack without the President's permission. And the report is the President said you could be alone. He's not gonna be alone. Are you kidding? Number one, they got the best defense force and we provide intelligence, we exchange intelligence in the area. And the President's one guy where Joe Biden was limiting weapons and fining them and denying them. President Trump I don't think would ever do that, especially in that dangerous neighborhood. So when we come back, I'll talk more about that with Michael McKofsky. Then we do a simulcast with Stuart Vaughn. Barney, you listen to the Brian Kilmeade Show.

[A]

Diving deep into today's top story, it's Brian Kilmeade. The more you listen, the more you'll know it's Brian Kilmeade.

[B]

What was better tonight about the, the late game? Execution.

[G]

Less mistakes, more control.

[B]

You said that Game 2 was going to fuel you. How did it fuel you tonight?

[J]

I mean, in the way we see. It's the little things. We were more serious, you know, with less mistakes, last turnovers.

[L]

It's a, it's a, it's a hole.

[B]

Singlish is pretty good for a guy in France. Victor Webanyama, last night was real good. Never. I mean the guy's fantastic on free throws. So if they're going to they're going to foul him. It's going to make a difference. But in the fourth quarter, 26 to 9 in terms of fouls, Mike Brown, one of the nicest guys you're going to meet. Reportedly, the refs like him. For the most part, players like him. In fact, that was one of his weaknesses. They say he was too much of a player's coach, wasn't hard enough according to LeBron and others. And he just went out flat out and went a little Phil Jackson issue and said, you got to be kidding me with the refs. And I agree, there's certain things, I was at the game, there were certain things that took place that just were flat out unacceptable. For example, the Josh Hart cornet thing where Josh Hortz hits a layup and then the cornet just comes in. This seven foot one big guy just knocks him to the ground and then Josh Hart gets up and pushes him and he gets the foul. Dick Stockton has seen it all done at all, has been watching and impressed with the quality of play in this series in the NBA and joins us now. Dick, you surprised about last night that the San Antonio spurs found a way to win on the road road?

[N]

No, not at all. And it's interesting and I think many times Brian fans, because they're on one side of it and they're looking at it in a different way than the players, they think that the crowd can be intimidating to the visiting team. When actually I remember when I did a lot of the Boston Celtics games that they relished going into enemy territory and they said, let's shut the crowd up. And so they know that, you know, first of all, desperate teams take desperate measures and we're down to nothing. And you're playing in New York and you know that if you go down three nothing, you know, that's all the, that's all she wrote. So it's a desperate game and a must game. And you know, people throw that word around, I think too much. Spurs have won every must game they have played so far in the playoffs. They won game six at home against the thunderstorms and they won game seven on the road against the thunder and now they were down two nothing and they win this game. So what happens is that the team that loses the previous game makes adjustments and they, they, they play harder, more physical style of play. You know, it's interesting, you talk about the play under the basket with Hart and I'm not going to, you know, argue that other than I saw Hart get up and like get the ball when it went through the basket. So I think what happened there is that he got in the way. I don't think Koster wanted to knock him down. I think that if you look at the expression of him, he said, what was he doing here? You know, so, you know, and he knows that he could easily be called for a foul in that instance. I think what Mike Brown did last night was send a message to the officials, which happens, you know, subconsciously.

[B]

In fact, you know what? Here, let's. Dick, let's hear. Here's Mike Brown. Exactly what he said. Cup 40.

[J]

Now, we didn't play good. San Antonio played great. We could have played better. There was a lot of things that we didn't do that we've done that we did in game one and game two. But to go 24 free throw attempts in the second half, that's 48 for the game. If you think about it the way that they called that second half, compared to eight, all the shots we took, we got fouled four times. Ruby, for eight free throw attempts, again, I don't complain much. I never thought I'd see that in an NBA Finals game.

[B]

So that, I mean, I thought that was very civil way to say it.

[N]

Sure. No, that's a message to the officials. But I have to tell you this. And, you know, they have a difficult job. I don't think the officials, especially Madison Square Garden, game three, you were there. You know what the atmosphere was like, are going to say, you know what? I'm going to overlook a lot of these things and really get the Knicks on this. They don't think that way. Maybe the Knicks were taking outside shots, maybe they weren't. You know, a lot of times, you know, the reason why teams go to the free throw line more is that they're more physical, more aggressive, okay? And maybe the Knicks weren't aggressive enough to go to the free throw line. You know, you could talk about blatant, Blatant situations and blatant calls. You know, I don't think, you know, I think it's a message for the next game. And I know that somehow it gets through. And I think it would be more even. But, you know, I don't. I've seen this for 100 years in the NBA, and it's a familiar refrain by teams that see this happen. You say, well, how could they? They didn't go to the line. Maybe they didn't deserve to go to the line, okay? Analyzing every play here at every. At every game. But I know that San Antonio got Back to playing the way they needed to play. They were desperate.

[B]

So, Stephen A. Smith, you know, the president came to the game first time in history and of everything you experienced in your career, John, Dick Stockton, you've never had a sitting president sit down and watch a game. So that is unique. Here's what Stephen A. Smith said about a cut 39.

[E]

This president has no business showing up

[B]

in New York City.

[E]

I am dead serious. It is selfish.

[B]

It is narcissistic. It is, it is ridiculous that he, that he is coming to this game.

[E]

I would say the same thing if it were Obama.

[B]

If it causes the New York Knicks to win, to lose tonight, I'm blaming him. I'm blaming the President of the United States.

[E]

I'm a stay on that. I'm a stay on it.

[B]

And damn it, I hope the GOP lose votes because of it if we lose tonight. So you're feeling about Stephen A. Smith,

[N]

you know, how do you spell blow? Hard. I'm trying to think here.

[E]

Blow.

[N]

Yeah, that's what I think. Stephen A. Smith, by the way, appeared in a wrestling show and did exactly what he accused the president of doing, except that he was down on the ground posing. And so what he was accusing President Trump of doing is what he would do at any time. President has a right and he knows James Dolan to see any game. He's sitting, you know, upstairs.

[B]

He's a legitimate fan, Dick. He's a legitimate mixer.

[N]

Look, he owned a team in the USFL with Herschel Walker. A lot of people forget that. You know, he knows the sports. He knows what he's talking about. And he didn't do it for show or for boats. And he knew, obviously knew that he might be booed there. He didn't care because he doesn't care. He doesn't care about what you think. Okay? That's exactly the way it is. So. But Stephen A. Smith, I mean, it's a little above his pay grade to even comment on why the President shouldn't be at a game.

[B]

Dick Stockton, thanks so much. I got to catch up to you after next game because. Because that will be the. I think it will be a pivotal game, obviously. Two one and Knicks are still up, but they got to win that one at home.

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If you're interested in it. Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmeade.

[K]

Currently, the fire on this front is

[H]

held because after we struck the terror

[K]

regime in Tehran, it ceased attacking us.

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Should the terror regime make the mistake of attacking us again, we will respond

[K]

with force because Israel has the full

[B]

right to self defense and we will exercise it as much as necessary. So that is, that is Bibi Netanyahu through an interpreter addressing his obviously the Israeli people about the fact that we, he is going to defend himself and Israel and he is a partnership and junior partner to the US but when it comes to Hezbollah bombing his country, he doesn't have to wait for permission. And I totally agree with that. Michael Makofsky joins us. President CEO of the Jewish Institute for National Security of America, leading Washington D.C. based policy and education organization looking at defense and national security. Michael, do you agree with Netanyahu?

[L]

Thanks for having me, Brian. Yeah, absolutely. Any Israeli prime minister would feel obligated to respond. It's not Netanyahu. Anyone would have to.

[B]

So when he wants to. Right now they're saying that he's, some people are saying that he's hurting the peace process with Iran by going up the Hezbollah. How do you feel about it?

[L]

No, it's just the opposite. And I would hope President Trump would understand that. Maybe he's coming around to figuring that out, I think because if you want to have, if you want to, if you, if you want to have more leverage with the Iranians, you want to hurt their main proxy, which is Hezbollah, concede to Iran that they have a veto over Lebanon and therefore Israel's northern security, you're weakening your hand with the Iranians. So I think what we should do if, if we want to, if, if we want to have more leverage with the Iranians is tell the Israelis we support and say it publicly, we support you to the hilt and we back you all the way in defending your northern border against Hezbollah. The Iran's pro Nazi.

[B]

So right now Iran looks at what's happened with Hezbollah. How did they get rearmed, how many are there left? I mean, are they still diminished from what happened a few years ago when it seemed like they were dismantled, lost. Nasarala, the pagers, that so what? What's their state?

[L]

It's a good question because I think, you know what also may have lulled us into thinking they were pretty much done is last year, year in the 12 Day War, the Iranians wanted them to attack Israel and they didn't. But this time, after the United States and Israel attacked Iran, then Hezbollah attacked Israel. So I think the way we have to look at it is Israel degraded Iran's, excuse me, Hezbollah's capabilities severely. Like what you said with the pagers, they, they knocked out maybe, I don't know know, 70% or something maybe more,

[B]

maybe less of their walkie talkies to follow up.

[L]

But it's still a lot. I mean, if you have 150,000 rockets, say, and you knock out, let's say, and they have, let's say, even 20% left, there's still 30%, that's still 30,000 rockets. So I think they have something like 20 or 30,000 left. Still a lot of rockets.

[B]

So I want you to hear some of the rhetoric that's coming out from Morocco on is maddening and confusing. The president, United States is talking to the Foreign Minister Arachi, and he's saying, I want to get this deal done. I want to get, you know, you could have the straight open, but we're going to need some relief. And that's part of the deal. And then you have the head of the Parliament's National Security and Foreign Policy Committee, Ibrahim Azizi, sit down with CNN and say, this cut 24, will there be a peace agreement between the United States and Iran?

[H]

It depends on the behaviors that we observe from the other side. If these same behaviors continue, then no, we do not have any trust at all. And with this lack of trust, it's not possible for negotiations to continue. And naturally, when there is no possibility of continuing, there is no result either.

[B]

He goes on to say this cut 25,

[H]

as we had promised, we acted accordingly.

[B]

The powerful armed forces of the Islamic

[H]

Republic of Iran act upon their stated commitments with speed and precision and make their American and Zionist enemies regret their actions.

[B]

Yeah. So there's still bellicose. And he went on to say a little bit later that there's no gain, there's nothing changed in negotiations.

[L]

Yeah.

[B]

So what do you believe?

[L]

You know, it's always good to get lectured by mass murderers about how to behave. So I found that pretty amusing. Look, I think there are a couple things here. The Iranians, they see that President Trump is very eager for a deal. So they're saying, look, you know, they're trying to play harder to get, I think. And they're trying to demand from President Trump some overt displays of, you know, goodwill gestures, which is absurd, of course, so excuse me. And President Trump isn't gonna do that anyway. But whether where we are, it's really kind of hard to know because I think consistently we're hearing from White House deals around the corner, deals around the corner. And the Iranians said, I'm not sure what you're talking about. So far, we haven't had a deal yet.

[B]

So I want you to hear a little bit more this is Yaquil Leiter. He's the Israeli ambassador here. Cut 26. I've been on all these calls and all the meetings that the prime minister has with the president. And I can tell you that there are journalists in the circuit who like to play up a certain narrative. The conversations between the prime minister and the president are cordial, they're friendly, they have a deep friendship that goes back some 40 years. And sometimes lovers have a spat. And sometimes the tension in the room and on the conversation can get a little heated. But for the most part, we're dealing with a very, very close collaborative effort between the United States and Israel. And there's tremendous understanding. The president understands full well that we cannot absorb ballistic missiles into our country without responsible responding, I would think. And the fact that they argue. How do you, what do you think about that?

[L]

Well, I mean, I know Ambassador Lighter. Well, he's a great guy. And I think he's saying it, I think, like he is. He's very straightforward, I think. Look, President Trump is the most pro Israel president, you know, that we've had in America. There's no question about that. And, but he's a guy who gets very passionate about things and he gets worked up. And I think he's had a close relationship with Bibi but Netanyahu. But they, but they argue sometimes. I would say, though, I wish President Trump hadn't said some of those things, especially the public things, you know, that really diminished Netanyahu and really put him in a corner. But I think the relationship is, you know, it's hard to know exactly, but my guess is it's pretty good. It's just the way their dynamic is. But it's just unfortunate. I think President Trump maybe got a little, excuse me, worked up, and he said things that I think kind of undercut us left leverage because if we want more leverage with the Iranians, we want to show absolutely no daylight with the Israelis, and we want to support the Israelis as they try to degrade Iran's main proxy.

[B]

So, Michael, there's a story out there that Netanyahu is getting aggressive with Hezbollah because it helps his election fortunes in the fall, which I don't know about Israeli politics. I don't plan. You know, I don't, I don't say I do. Do you think that is helping Bibi Netanyahu to be aggressive against Hezbollah for his reelection chances?

[L]

Look, I think, let's put it this way. I think if he didn't respond to Iran's attack or to Hezbollah's attack, it would have hurt him. There's no question. Politically, there's an election this year. We don't know what date, but there'll be. It will be this fall. And he's getting attacked by his left, you know, by left. More opposition leaders, more to his left left, who are saying that he's weak on security. And I saw that Gotti Eisencott, a former chief of staff of the IDF and one of the leading contenders, is running an ad which plays President Trump saying, I'm gonna call the shots. Netanyahu is going to do whatever I want. So I think Netanyahu has to show that he's independent, he has to show his stuff, both for electoral reasons, but I think he would do the same. Even if there's no election, he knows what he has to do to do, and that is protect Israel's borders. And certainly after October 7, there is zero tolerance in Israel for not doing so.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, to me, would you know when elections would be.

[L]

Well, they haven't called him yet, but this is one of the few governments in Israel that might go all the way to term, which would be, I think, till November. But the reports could be it might be September, it might be October. We don't know exactly yet.

[B]

Interesting time. Lastly, I want you to hear General Jack Keane on how he thinks the President views war. Cut 28.

[I]

There's another side to the President that we should remind ourselves. He looks at war as a horrific thing, which it really is, and he speaks to the killing on both sides as something that we should stop. But the problem is, who are we really dealing with here? And this is a very different evil that we have to recognize. And we're getting. Giving it time.

[A]

We are.

[B]

And it's the same evil we dealt with. Japan, extreme behavior, the Nazis, extreme behavior, Islamic extremists, extreme behavior. That's what it is. It's fanatical. It's not rational.

[L]

That's right. And that's why they don't think like we do. And they're not going to be easily cowed by economic pressure alone. I think they're only. I think, would make major concessions. Only. Only if they think their regime is going to fall and they don't feel that way. So as long as they don't feel that way. And I think his eagerness for a deal just emboldens them more so. And if we have divisions between us and Israel, it emboldens them more. Look, I agree completely with General Keene. As you know, I think the world to him. I agree with him. I don't even think we should have a deal. I think we should walk away and we should do what we need to do that we can the running themselves.

[B]

I'm with you, Michael, but there's oil and gas too. Thank you.

[A]

Now the Brian Kill Me show joins Fox Businesses Varney Co. With Stuart Varney live on your radio and on FOX Business. Here's Brian Killmade.

[B]

You know, I'm going to be doing outnumbered the top of the hour. That's going to be great. I also going to be hopping on with Stuart Varney and FPN in a matter of moments. And then you'll have to see me on one of the fastest growing cable news stations also streams and you also get us on FOX Sports on Fox one app and everything else. Keep in mind too, we're about to talk about with President Trump, the NBA Finals. And I was at the game so I could tell you about the reaction of the crowd. Also interviewing Tom Holman yesterday. He talks about what's going to happen in New York, York. And that's ice is coming in. Let's listen on the downside, Alphabet is they're all on the downside. That's the way it goes right there. It is 1051. That means it's time for Brian Kilmeade who is right there on the side of the screen.

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Brian, last night the president received, I

[B]

would call it a mixed reception at Madison Square Garden. You were there. Tell us what it was really like. I thought it reminded me a little of Tyson when, when I used to watch Tyson go in Atlantic City. I watched him in Las Vegas. Vegas. And when he stepped in the ring, you didn't know people were cheering or booing. You just heard noise. And the minute the president popped on camera on the, I believe saluting during the national anthem, you heard a lot of noise. Yeah, there was some boos there. Absolutely. Kids, New York City, they just elected a communist as mayor. I mean, that president is Mr. Free Enterprise. But he doesn't care because fundamentally Stewart, he's a nickname fan and he's a New York fan. And that's why he wanted to go to the Super Bowl. He loves football. That's why he wanted to go to NASCAR. He really loves that Daytona 500 and for the Knicks, he said I just want to go. I want to be part of this. We watched and I watched him so many times. I used to do sports before I came to Fox. And I'd be there sitting under the basket watching Patrick Ewing get stopped by Michael Jordan for four out of the, like, six years they played against each other, if that. And Reggie Miller. And he'd be in the stand. Fans in the or, right there in celebrity row. So for even Whoopi Goldberg admitted Donald Trump should go to the game. He has been a fan forever. When Akeem Jeffries, who thinks he's going to be speaker, comes out and says, I don't even think he's a Knick fan, Just do a little bit of research. But it was definitely a scene getting in. A lot of people who probably been the biggest Trump fans in the world had to go through these lines. It literally took me 90 minutes to go a block and a half yesterday. Yesterday through four magnetometers in order to get in and no bags. And they told us get there two hours ahead of time. It would be easy to blame Trump for being there and creating this confusion

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with, with security and the blockages.

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Let me move on to something much more important. Border czar Tom Homan says he's reviewing a plan for more ICE agents in New York City. Governor Hochul had signed a bill to prohibit ICE from entering sensitive locations. Watch this.

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I told her it's safer for the community, it's safer for the officers, it's safer for the aliens to have these cooperations with the jails. She signed the legislation anyways, so I made her a promise. You're going to see more ICE agents you've ever seen in New York City, and it's coming. I just reviewed an operational plan. I'm not going to tell you exactly when it's going to happen, but it's coming. I'm keeping my promise. We're going to send more ICE agents to New York because you took away the efficiencies of safe arrests and covered county jails there.

[B]

You heard it. Brian is sending more ICE agents to New York City. Presumably there's going to be a lot of clashes in the city, Right? Yeah. Governor Hochul is running against Bruce Blakeman. Bruce Blakeman's a NASA county executive. For people listening around the country, around the world. Nassau county's bigger than 17 states, and he has a different policy. It's the exact opposite. And she's running against Hochul. So she wants to show, hey, Liberal News York, I got your back. I'm a. I'm for illegal immigrants. And Tom Holman says, yeah, I'm going to come for your illegal immigrant criminals, but I'm going to do it in a strategic way. And if you're not going to cooperate, I'm just going to put more agents in, it's going to create more havoc. But I'm going to do it in an organized way. So we don't have a revisit of Minneapolis. There's going to be no roving patrols and I'm going to go up to Home Depot. People sitting on a split rail fence waiting to be picked up and saying, where are you from? He's going to go after criminals that he knows of and he wants everybody know in these sanctuary cities, you're pro criminal, you're pro overstaying visa. There's a warrant for you to leave or appear in court and they just blew it off. If those are the people you want in your state who aren't supposed to be voting, good luck with that. Tom Holman is not one to back down and he's got more experience than anyone else in the country to doing it. And I think he's going to do it in a civil way. But he wants to let let Hocus know there's going to be a price to pay for that. And I add to that, I thought it was so brilliant for the Secretary of Homeland Security, Mark Wayne Mullen to say, hey, New Jersey, if you're not going to help us with the state and local police, I'm just going to pull customs agents out of Newark Airport because I need people. And that's going to really slow down your customs, isn't it? So you make a choice. There's a clash coming. That's the way it is.

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Clashes are coming.

[B]

Brian Kilmade, always great stuff. We'll see you again real soon. Thank you, Brian. Thanks so much, Stuart. Appreciate it. 1 866-408-7669 I do have a couple announcements I'm gonna set. I get set up in the fall for the Uniting the States tour where I'm gonna be looking at my book Uniting the States, which you can preorder now. The six, the six momentous moments that forged the American miracle that could make or break our country. Crucial moments. And that's gonna be in the fall. And this is gonna be my last, last history. Liberian Laughs is going to be in Pensacola, Florida and tickets are really going quick. It's a huge military area and now people are understanding this is a patriotic moment in year 250 and it's coming up on July 11th. So I hope everyone could just go to briankilmead.com and it's going to be streamed on Fox Nation. But seeing it in person and having VIP opportunities to talk to you before is what I was hoping for. So that's going to be in Pensacola, Florida at the Sanger 3 Theater. And then we're going to be queuing up for some big weekends. Red Bank, New Jersey, United States tour, Count Basie center for the Arts. I've never, I've been there one time before. It was awesome. The next day, Westbury, New York, the Westbury Music Fair United States tour. Flag of it, we're going to be there. Go to brian kilmeade.com a lot of WABC listeners is going to be in Red Bank, New Jersey and Westbury, New York, and they get tickets there. Clearwater, Florida, November 6th 7th. A book comes with every ticket, so hopefully you'll love it and you'll get an idea of six major stories that made or break our country that maybe you don't know in detail enough about. And Jacksonville, Florida will be November 8th. So the day after on Saturday I'll be in Clearwater. Sunday I'll be in Jacksonville at the Florida Theater. Been there. It's an awesome venue. And the rebuilding of that inner downtown Jacksonville where the Jaguars are having their stadium rebuilt too. And there's now a Four Seasons and November 24th, first I'll be in Chesterfield, Missouri at the factory. So I hope to see everyone there. So that's going to be great. So go to brian kilme.com this way I can see you in person. Meet you in person. VIP opportunities remain. You listen to the Brian Kilme Show. Don't forget outnumbered, top of the hour, don't move. Foreign.

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Studios in midtown Manhattan. It's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmeade,

[B]

so glad you're there. It's the Brian Kilmeade show and I'm at 40th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan. We're six blocks away, Nick. Fans alleged air quotes decided, decided to create havoc because they couldn't get a seat in. The Knicks lost. Unbelievably embarrassing. But you know, this city's out of control. We had more cops there than ever before. They were jumping on the cop cars, going crazy. You know, they had to push the viewing parties for the NBA title game. For the NBA title game. Game number three against the San Diego spurs because the president was there. So what? Bryant Park, I'm sure if you don't know it around the country, it's beautiful. Great area right in Midtown, 42nd and 66th, huge park, set up chairs didn't have some chairs so they start throwing them at people. And then they had one in Central Park. You know, you sit on the mountain, you watch the game and these huge screens. And then I watched all hell break loose in and around the Garden last night, even though cops were sitting there. And not that they weren't doing anything, they were outnumbered. These people are not sports fans who are so happy they wreck stuff by mistake. These are people just creating havoc in New York City. And by the way, this hour I'm gonna be joined by Farley Weiss, president of the Israeli Justice Organization, and Karl Rove. He's Mr. Everything when it comes to politics. And today we have a big primary day. Let's bring him in. He's not only a former senior adviser George W. Bush and former and FOX News contributor, but also a columnist with the Wall Street Journal. Hey, Carl, first off, let me ask you, why is it that Graham Platner is still a candidate in Maine?

[E]

Because they got a thin bench willing to take on Susan Collins. Governor Mills got in the primary, but the Democratic Party in Maine, like a lot of state parties, moved to the left. So a guy who is a democratic socialist, you know, has a, has a following and nobody else of substance got into the primary, but they're stuck with the guy. And I think a lot of people are going to have regret about having signed on too early for which is

[B]

pretty amazing is almost everything about the guy is false. Number one, he's not an oyster farmer. He made $5,000 farming oysters on the average on his tax form. You know why he gives it? He's bad at, I guess there are no oysters in Maine, who knows. But he gives them to his family, his family's restaurant. He basically gets $50,000 from disability. That's how he makes a living. I don't even know if his flannel shirt is real.

[E]

And his wife apparently, I think it was last year, got like $30,000 from the oyster business that he supposedly co owns. It sells the lobsters to his family's restaurant. And yeah, and look, he also got his mortgage, he claimed, from the VA but it turns out he got it from his daddy. And we don't even know if he's making payments on it or if there's interest on it. You know, he has yet to disclose any of that.

[B]

So Geneva, Geneva McDonald used to be his, his chief of staff and she writes a column in the Washington Post today saying almost everything about him and his character is bad. He goes Platner is centered on honesty, transparency, judgment and character. Her argument is based on her personal experience working for him. And it's almost the Exact opposite of why she was, was. Her central claim is that Platner repeatedly assured staff, donors and party leaders and voters there were no additional damage, damaging revelations of his past, only new controversies. Only the old controversies, but new ones kept popping up. And I think the opposition research. The Republicans are probably keeping their powder dry on.

[E]

Oh, yeah, sure, why not get past the July deadline, by which time the Democrats can't replace him on the ballot. I mean, there's a primary tonight, but there's a deadline in July by which a candidate could either die or lose or, you know, or die or withdraw and be replaced by a party committee. And once it passed that deadline, they're stuck with them no matter what. So, yeah, I mean, why not take the stuff that's out there, remind people of it, which is exactly what they're doing. They've got people reading. They got a really interesting ad where they have people reading Platner's comments aloud and reacting to them.

[B]

So here is. So all this stuff is coming out, including the way he treats women. He's on a site called Kick. And most of these people on Kick are teenagers. Teenagers, girls. So why are you still up until 2025? So he's going to blame that on PTSD, which is insulting for people with PTSD.

[E]

Yeah, PTS, yes. And the other thing is, he is doing this on a website that is around a site that's used for hooking up while he's married. He posts a picture of himself standing in the bathroom with his phone, cleverly covering the Totenkopf tattoo on his shoulder in the bathroom, wrapped in a towel. And he's posted up there. You know, look, girls, here, I'm available to you. I mean, please, this guy's a creep.

[B]

So AOC is going to take a stand against him, right? Wrong. Cut five.

[C]

Should he be the nominee? I think we are all very committed in making sure that there's a Democratic majority in the Senate. It's not to say that what has transpired is okay.

[B]

Really?

[E]

Yeah. No, look, look, they're all stuck. Think about that. She's just said, look, he's a creep. He's a misogynist. He's a racist. He's a bigot. He's down. He is. He has called for the death of the police. Police. He has denigrated men and women who served in uniform. But you know what? It's important for us to win. So I'm for the Creep. I mean, please, have. Have. You know, at least keep your mouth shut.

[B]

Don't.

[E]

Don't don't go out there and, and lead us to believe that this is a good thing for the country. Stay away from him if you don't want to be for him.

[B]

So Carl, are the Republican Party's compromised because they nominated Ken Paxton?

[E]

Well, yeah, absolutely. Paxton Paxton was in, was impeached by Republican dominated state House representatives and you saw one of his defense attorneys, attorneys has now endorsed James Talarico. I mean talk about the guy. One of the guys who got him off in front of the state Senate and in a courtroom, you know, is now saying I'm for James Talarico. So yeah, that's a problem for Republicans in Texas.

[B]

You think he's in danger of losing? Do you think he's in danger of losing to a guy like Talaria?

[E]

Yeah, look, yeah, I mean look, it's, Texas is still a red state, but the question is going to be how many people are going to hold their nose and vote for him and how many people are going to say, hey, I'm not voting for him. Remember in the last two elections that he was, that he was in, in Texas, even though this was largely before we got all the information that came about in the, in the impeachment proceedings. He was on the ballot in 2020 and 2018. He trailed the rest of the Republican ticket in 2018 by 177,000 votes. On average. There are seven other candidates. And in 2020 he tr. He trailed him by 155,000. That's, that's back when we knew that he picked up, you know, he stole $1,000 block pen and was under, you know, was in, under indictment for secur. It's before we knew about the girlfriends and the corrupt business guy and the things that he did for the corrupt business guy and the multiple girlfriends and all the rest. So yeah, he's got a, he's got a challenge and there's no ifs, ands or buts about it.

[B]

So I want to bring you to. So look, if Susan Collins is right now in a flat footed tie in the last poll with him, she's usually trailing because she's the last Republican, she always tell me the last Republican in the north Northeast Senator. And so, and she's one. Don't tell her. She don't tell me. She's maga. She voted to impeach Trump.

[E]

Yeah. So there's one other thing about her. She, she trailed in every single poll six years ago and won by eight points against the speaker of the House who is an accomplished, thoughtful, well spoken and incredibly well financed Democrat opponent. I think there's a shy Susan voter just like we have shy Tories inside, shy Trump voters. I think in Maine they're shy Susan Collins voters. You know what, I'm nominally a Democrat or a liberal independent, but I'm voting for her because she's the only honest one in the race possibly.

[B]

So what's going on in California is, I think it's just absolutely awful. We're going two weeks to count votes and now we have a situation where it looks like Steve Hilton's a solid second, but it looks like Spencer Pratt has dropped a third. When he always looked, he was breathing down the neck of Karen Bass. Now I, I don't know, you know, you and I are not work in the poll stations, but everybody gets a ballot and if you don't have voter id, don't worry. One of the rules is you could use your gym membership or prescription drug card bring so your prescription drug partner or insurance cards. You can vote in California. Can you blame Spencer Pratt if he feels like he's being robbed?

[E]

Well, look, the system does allow that, but very few people actually use those. Most people the problem is they allow ballots to be received seven days after an election. And there is a habit pretty well documented that younger, more liberal, less involved voters are the people who tended to dominate the final wave of people who filling out their ballot and sending it in. Which means the Republicans who are ready to, ready to go and know who they're voting for. But it's the young and the not well informed who come at the end. So I was worried about Pratt from the beginning because the gap between he, he and the city councilwoman was about six or seven points, which isn't a lot. I felt good about Hilton being in the runoff, but I was worried about him not being in the fir in first place again because of the same thing he was. The other Republicans turned in their ballots early, got him in and the younger, more liberal, less informed voters got him in later.

[B]

So you think that it's possible that Rahman, who's to the left of Bass, would get the majority of the last batch of votes, not Bass who really hasn't budged in her 34% in total?

[E]

Yeah, well, that's one way of putting. Another way of putting it is, is Pratt's share of the final tranche of votes, those that were mailed in at towards the very end of the campaign say, you know, the election's Tuesday, say the ballots that are mailed on Thursday, Friday or Friday and Saturday and Sunday and Monday that those ballots would be. Would tend to go for. For the more liberal progressive candidate? Yeah, I would.

[B]

Here's Speaker Johnson when asked cut 10.

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They, they are counting votes weeks after the election. We have entire nations with huge populations like India that can count their votes in 24.

[B]

Are you saying it's rigged like the president?

[A]

I'm not saying it's rigged. I'm saying it stinks to high heaven. And everybody knows that. Let's, let's, let's remove the appearance of impropriety. Let's have what, what, what a concept. Let's have votes on an election, the

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day of the election.

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That's what many states are, are able to do. I think California is playing around with

[B]

this, but what evidence is there to prove that there was rank?

[N]

I don't.

[A]

Some of these efforts are so diabolical and so far upstream, it is impossible to prove. But I think everybody knows instinctively something is wrong here.

[B]

So, you know, Speaker's not somebody to talk in hyperbole. You know, it doesn't feel right.

[E]

Yeah, look, my, my, my. Yes, absolutely. Look, the only people whose balance, in my opinion, ought to be allowed to arrive at late are the military serving abroad because, you know, getting mail from, you know, fill in the blank, a base in Korea or a base in Germany or air force facility in the Indian Ocean or, you know, U.S. troops in the Middle east is going to be difficult. But the idea that you can, that any ballot that is postmarked by election day and received within seven days can be counted is just. It invites this kind of distrust that California is doing themselves absolutely no good by doing this. And what's also interesting to me is if you look at states that do allow mail in voting but have, you know, have a shorter timeframe during which they can be received, there's no real difference in the turnout between, say, Florida and Texas and California. And why? Because people, if you, if you set down a reasonable rule, they'll live by it. They don't have a reasonable rule.

[B]

Hey, Carl, I didn't look at the state in detail, but does anything pop out? You know, they redistrict and they're supposed to get more, more Democratic seats. Now people think it's a guarantee. It's not a guarantee. Did you see anything in California that the Republican Party is showing itself in the primaries?

[E]

Well, what we did see is that between Hilton and BIANCO, that roughly 40%, just under 40% of the total vote was cast for two visibly Republican candidates. That should say something about the state. That should say that the Republicans, you know, could in a statewide race get 45 or 50% of the vote on a good day. But we're not going to end up with 40% of the delegate of the delegation being, being Republicans because they really did do a great job of, of gerrymandering the Republicans out of the seats. But no, we have two incumbents, one in coming from Orange county and one coming from Riverside. Ken Calvert, who's a senior Republican on appropriations and probably one of the leading experts in the, in the House on national defense issues. I was pleased that he came in first in the race against a fellow Republican. I hate to see young Kim, who's a very nice person, you know, come be, be redistricted in with him. But I was delighted to see Ken Calvert, who's really important to advocating for a strong national defense. The guy knows more about the defense budget and the defense needs of our country than probably anybody outside of that funny shaped building across the the river.

[B]

So looking right now at the spurs and, and Knicks, is it possible for you to root for a New York team?

[E]

No. But I got to tell you, I'm glad they have a guy named Carl. In fact, I said, call Anthony Towns. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In fact, I don't know if you saw it, but Speaker Kahim Jeffries attacked the President by saying, I don't think he knows the difference between Karl Rove and Anthony and Carl Towns. And so I started getting a lot of grief from my friends. So I circulated a picture of me in a basketball uniform holding a white saying, not cat, but the other Carl.

[B]

Right. And by the way, Carl, there's politicians that try to do things to win over people. Donald Trump is a Nick fan. He's got 40 years of video and pig pictures. And Akeem Jeffries just can't help polarization at that moment. He could say, well, you know, I mean, it's unbelievable. He's like, I don't even think he knows the Knicks. Like, what are you crazy? Just pick your spots.

[E]

Well, and look, this is how bad our culture has gotten. I mean, why say anything at all? Just let him enjoy the game. And you're right, the amazing thing to me is he was a Knicks fan back when the Knicks were, you know, not exactly the winning team that they are today. I mean, it was the fashionable place to be in the 70s and 80s to go to the Knicks games and lots of celebrities did. Did so. And so did President Trump. Then, then, then, you know, New York real estate mogul Donald Trump. So. But I, you know, it's a sign of how pathetic our politics.

[B]

So, Carl, if you had a client that was an athlete or a sports fan, you know, Trump has made it clear, I'm going to UFC events. He went to the Super Bowl. He goes to Daytona 500, you know, he goes to IndyCar, and now he goes to the NBA. This, this is a positive electorate. Not only does he like sports, isn't that a positive, positive politically?

[E]

Well, it is if it's, if people, if people develop a sense that the interest is authentic.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

And look, you see at these UFC games and you see him at these other sporting events, and it's clear he enjoys it. Now, he may not be, you know, I, I worked for a guy who was incredible. Baseball nut George W. Bush could tell you the starting lineup of the 1934 cards. You know, I mean, it was that kind of, kind of baseball fascination. But Trump clearly enjoys the whole milieu of sporting events. And so for the Democrat, Hakeem, to make fun of him, I mean, it gave the president an opportunity. And look, you know, look, if the president was at a chess match, we'd all say he'd be, you know, politicking and we wouldn't see it as authentic. But, you know, the New York man about town, part of the rule of being a New York man about 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s was you got to take an interest in sports. And he clearly did.

[B]

Yep. Karl Rove, not like Hillary Clinton, wants to be a Yankee fan to run in the New York. Everyone knew she was not a Yankee. You fan.

[E]

But I'm a Texas man. By God, I'm for anything from Texas. Get up against those New Yorkers. We're gonna, we're gonna. Come on. We may be down, but we're not out.

[B]

Call Ro. Thanks so much, sir. Call Anthony. Ro. Back in a moment.

[A]

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[J]

I thought we made some strides in terms of the ball movement and playing with our teammates, setting screens, trusting the basketball would find the right guy for our shot. I thought we showed better poise at times. I thought we finished the game still with some things that needed improvement, but stronger than we did the last few games. First two games, excuse me. And I just thought we were in attack mode, but also as a collective group, and I thought it showed itself in terms of something would happen, whether it was initial action or a guy trying to get to the paint. And if they didn't have a clear advantage. They were looking for their teammates and because we were doing that throughout the night, it was much clearer for their teammates to expect where the ball was going and when it was going to get to them.

[B]

Thanks, coach. Coach. That was pretty detailed. That spurs coach Ms. Johnson obviously happy his team is very much alive. Taking game three on the road. Game four will be a different story. I think the Knicks got a wake up call. They no longer are afraid to blow a long winning streak. Now they're ready to go and please their fans at home.

[A]

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[K]

Israelis in the United States, we have a lot of shared interests, but we also have some situations where our interests diverge. And I think where the president has been very clear here is that while Israel obviously has some objectives that it has, the United States main objective in Iran is to ensure that Iran does not have a nuclear weapon. And we've actually thanks to what's happened over the last few months, but really over the last year and a half we've created the space necessary where the president believes, and I think that he's right, that we can get the long term settlement to Iran's nuclear deal. Now Israel may like that, they may not like that.

[B]

Okay. I don't see where our interests diverge from Israel. I really don't. I mean Hezbollah, are we pro Hezbollah, are we okay if we just let Hezbollah alone, is that going to hurt us here? Of course. Of course it is. Hamas, oh, what's the big deal? Hamas is not, of course it is. The Islamic extremist is out to destroy the West. In the meantime, first up, Israel, so we don't have to bomb Israel on a daily basis because they're not in Mexico sending rockets into Texas. But if they were, we would, and maybe if Israel would look at that and say Hamas is our enemy, but they're not sending rockets from Gaza, so that's not our problem. But they certainly are our enemy. So I mean to me like blaming the election and the fall and Israel's aggression on the fact that their peace talks haven't progressed more with Iran is folly. Farley Weiss joins us now. President of the Israeli Justice League. Farley, do you, I see some elements of the administration who just want to create a little bit of a schism between Israel and the U.S. do you see that too?

[M]

It could be, I think that they're, that they, they're, they could go, they should, they should go big. They're too going for like the nuclear which they've already Done an amazing job of setting it back dramatically that no other president has done. But I think the fact is, is that they need to go after the regime because it won't be a peaceful world as long as this evil regime in Iran exists. And they need to, they arm the Kurds and they need to do whatever they can because you can't. We can't come to an agreement that this regime not forget signing. They may sign something, but that they will keep. That won't happen.

[B]

Here's President Trump cut 18.

[F]

If we go and bomb, which we can do very easily if we want, and we spend another two or three weeks bombing, they'll have nothing left whatsoever. But you won't have the straight open for months. If we do the bombing, you know, a lot of people are going to be killed. Who wants to do, do that? I don't. And we'll get, we'll have a signed document that's actually stronger than doing the bombing. What has proven to be a very powerful thing is the blockade. The blockades turned out to be much stronger than bombing. And it was really a combination. It was our initial thrust and then the blockade. But, you know, their economy is really suffering and they're going to make a deal.

[B]

The blockade is working, no doubt about it. But he's. The president says operationally, I assume militarily, he says it's hard to bomb them and keep the strait open at the same time. Your thoughts?

[M]

Well, I think that, that what he did was they did the bombing without closing the strait to Iranian shipping. It was only after they agreed to their first cease fire. That was supposed to last two weeks. That was supposed to be contingent on Iran opening. The harm moves is when then Iran reneged on their agreements and then the United States blocked Iranian shipping. They've never done the combination of the blockade with the bombing. And I think that's what really needs to be done. I just think that restraining Israel, letting Israel do what they need to do only increases the bargaining power of the United States and the regime only will come to an abide by agreement if they fear the regime falling. The economically devastating them is not stopping the regime from just holding out for terms that they want.

[B]

So what is the sense in Israel? I was talking to someone on the Trump team yesterday and they say, well, you have to understand the prime minister has an election to win in the fall. And I thought so. I mean, is election to win in the fall to, to destroy Hezbollah? Yeah, any fall, any spring, any winter. It's always the goal of anybody who Wants to be prime minister. Minister leaving Hezbollah alone. I don't, you know, if Hezbollah is not bombing into from Lebanon into Israel, I don't see the prime minister initiating. But that's not the case, is it?

[M]

Look at it. No country would allow any part of their country to become an uninhabitable because of bombs hitting their country, which is what Hezbollah has done, mind you. Hezbollah was supposed to abide by a ceasefire just like a week or two ago in which they broke. And they've broken ceasefires numerous times. Even October 8, 2023, they broke a cease fire. They agreed to. They keep breaking agreements because their goal is destruction of Israel. They don't care if they destroyed Lebanon in the process. They're just. And any country, any normal country, any leader of any normal country wants to make sure that everyone in any part of the country can live securely. And Hezbollah is not allowing Israelis to live in the north securely. So until that happens, the only way to stop Hezbollah is militarily. There's no diplomatic solution to them because they're. All they care about is destroying Israel and they won't stop until they're destroyed.

[B]

So far, like. Let me ask you a couple of questions. Have you guys, has Israel bombed Egypt? Have they bombed Jordan, have they bombed Syria, have they bombed the uae, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait? What's the answer to that, Farley?

[M]

Look at Israel. Only those things that defend themselves. And they're not bombing these other countries like Iran bombing that. It's Iran is going after everybody. And, but mainly their whole goal, their big thing is to go after Israel and the United States. Those are their two main people they want to go. Main countries they want to go after. And they're the biggest enemy in the world in the sense of spreading terrorism throughout the world. I mean, they're going after our president of the United States, President Trump. They've tried to assassinate him twice. They've tried to assassinate his daughter Ivanka. Now these people are pure evil. And, and we need to go out there and try to go after their regime. And even if it takes time, but we don't have to put troops on the ground. There are people within the regime. The regime only has 20% of support of the people that's not popular. They will be overthrown. The question is timing. The sooner the better.

[B]

There is protests right now in Iran was over the weekend. Did you see that?

[M]

Yeah, I saw that. There's a lot of people who want to protest, but when you. They massacred 40,000 of their own people and wounded over like around 200,000 of their own own people. It's hard for people. The bravery of the Iranian people is extraordinary. But I think what they want is they want the ability, not just protest, they want the ability to have arms because they want to be able to overthrow the regime. And they're just, they're bringing in foreigners to help protect the regime in Iran. And that needs to, they fear the regime and they need to have more fear.

[B]

So I want to know where the talks are going. And in talking to people close to the president, they might be talking to the supreme leader as well as the foreign minister. But then I put on CNN this morning and I said, oh, they're doing an interview in Iran with the head of the Iranian Parliament's National Security and Foreign Policy Committee. I wonder what he has to say. So let's listen. Cut 23.

[H]

We do not see a serious will to reach a framework that could actually be implemented. And I think with regard to Iran's blocked assets, this is in fact a very clear and prominent exception example of that. As for uranium enriched materials, enrichment itself and nuclear issues, we are not currently negotiating on those matters. There is no discussion of them because it is not intended that we should have negotiations on those issues at this stage.

[B]

What's he talking about? The president never opens up his mouth without saying it starts with nuclear. So that guy says, we're not even talking about nuclear. What am I supposed to believe on this? Who are we talking to? Is this a problem? Plan to contradict it, to contradict each other?

[M]

Well, I mean, I think that when you're dealing with academy Kissinger once said, when you're dealing people who are murderers, they can also be liars. So you don't know what, what they, whatever they've said publicly is, is clearly different from what they're saying privately. But the problem is what they've said privately and what they've agreed to, like when they said they would open the Strait of Hormuz six weeks ago and they haven't done it, is that they're not keeping to their private commitments. And, and so they, they, you know, the Iran is the only country in the world that doesn't have a nuclear weapon that enriches their own uranium and enriches it to levels that can only be used for military purposes. 60%. And so clearly they want to get a nuclear weapon. Their goal is, is to get a nuclear weapon and that only President Trump has shown the courage to try to stop them from doing it by bombing them and set the weapon systems Back, which was only according to Tony Blink and the Biden secretary, Secretary of State was only weeks away.

[B]

So. So Farley, a lot of people on the left, including people like Anthony Blinken say, well they were at 3% until Donald Trump ripped up the JCPOA rose, we wouldn't have a nuclear problem right now. What do you say?

[M]

Ron Dermer, the then the Israeli ambassador United States said when President Trump assassinated Soleimani, the main Iranian journey general for nine months, they stopped doing anything on their nuclear program at that point in time until Joe Biden was elected president and then they proceeded with their nuclear program. So the whole main problem with the Iranian nuclear program is all due to the decisions of the Obama administration when they lifted sanctions into the JCPOA and the Biden administration in which they alleviated sanctions. And all of a sudden, because the alleviation of sanctions and Iran we're getting our financial windfall, they were able to fund Hezbollah and Hamas, which led to the October 7, 2023 attack on Israel. When Iran, President Trump has sanctioned Iran, they weakened them economically and now you're close to being able to get the regime replaced and they need to go for it and get and do everything you can to replace the regime and make the whole world safer.

[B]

Well, I want you to comment on this. The same guy said this about this military operation that's now in a ceasefire cut 25 as we had promised, we acted accordingly. The powerful armed forces of the Islamic

[H]

Republic of Iran, they act upon their stated commitments with speed and precision and

[B]

make their American and Zionist enemies regret their actions. You think American and Zionist enemies regret their actions?

[M]

No, I think that they're in shock that the United States under President Trump and Israel has stand up to the regime. Iran was considered a top 20 military power and they've been obliterated in this war. They've been crushed. They have no air force, no navy. They have. They're economically getting losing hundreds of millions of dollars a day. They're being economically destroyed and they had a water shortage before this happened. So they're getting obliterated. And they still talk like Baghdad Bob from the Iraq war, trying to talk about how tough they are or they have all these surprises, but when every time they attack, there's no surprises there because they launched this there whatever they had and they are getting weaker every day.

[B]

So General Jack Keane weighed in on what he's seen so far. And look, he's making it clear and I agree with him in talking to the military people that we just need 10 to two more weeks to finish up these military targets to further let Iran know how much damage has been done to him and let the world know. Cut 27.

[I]

The Iranians objective of dragging the negotiations out is what they're about here and they believe this is in their head. They think if they drag it out and get it close to the midterm elections in the United States, they pay a lot of attention to it. The likelihood is President Trump would not reattack. I think that is also likely a miscalculation. Why? The evidence is clear. President Trump got into a negotiated deal timeline with the Iranians before the 12 day war. He gave them 60 days. They didn't come to a deal. Just like we're struggling with them now. The 61st day he greenlighted Israel to attack Iran, which began the 12 Day War. I believe they're miscalculating once again. They underestimated the President then and I think they're underestimating him again.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, if you give him no choice, he's going to take action. But with the president, people like to say he's a callous guy, narcissistic, all these things, but he has more caring about casualties than almost any American leader. I know. I'm not saying they all, all don't care, but he does not look at them as numbers. He looks at them as families, Farley. And he meets those families at Dover.

[M]

Yeah, no question. He is, I think, rightfully so, very careful about putting people in harm's way and very concerned about every casualty impacts him and is important to him to try to minimize it. And they lack. The lack of casualties in the United States was far below what anyone expected with this war. I think it was 40 14, something like that. It's unbelievable the success under Pete Hexth and the of the US Military in this battle. And I think that, look, if they, if I think that even if they try to drag it out to the midterms, after the midterms, President Trump will take action because he's tried to. He stopped Israel in the first 12 day war with Iran and told them not to kill Khomeini. And then eventually he saw that Iran wasn't stopping and he went over and joined Israel and killed Khomeini. And if Iran doesn't keep their words of things, President Trump will act. I am confident that he will do so.

[B]

Doesn't matter when in an interview with a Tehranian news outlet, the foreign minister said it was pretty clear that the US Hit the side of a building to kill the people they wanted and left the other one intact so they didn't kill the people that they didn't want to. So we had the targeting ability. It wasn't obliterate. It was to wipe out the people in charge of that evil regime. Folly Rice, thanks so much. The president of the Israeli Justice Organization. Back with more to know in just a moment. See you at the top of the hour on Outnumbered. You listen to the Brian Kilmeade Show. So glad you're here.

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[B]

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[G]

Okay.

[B]

Still scared?

[E]

Yes.

[B]

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