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The Brian Kilmeade Show 06-19-2026
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Brian Kilmeade
From the FOX News radio studios in midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. BRIAN kilmeade,
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Michael Dorgan
all right.
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Brian Kilmeade
Hi, everybody. So glad you're there. Get ready for Father's Day and a couple of days away or whenever you're listening to this, this hour, we're going to be joined by Rosemary Back of Republican strategist and economic policy expert. And the economy is front and center and everything to do with why I believe we are not just finishing off Iran right now. Because the economy, we've got the economy in gear and the foundational, the numbers are pretty strong. Foundationally, the midterms are going to be a nightmare for Republicans. So we'll talk about that then. Also standing by, Kimberly Brown, daughter of activist, actor, pro football player Jim Brown, the greatest of the 20th century. She's a renowned running back, as you know, for the Browns from 1957, 1965, then became this huge, this huge movie star and then became became an impactful activist. She's got a brand new book out and she's got a brand new book out called the Legendary Mindset. And she co hosts, she's co host of Daughters of Legends. So she's going to be with us shortly on this Father's Day talking about her legendary dad. And I just got to remind you, always get the YouTube channel, YouTube.com@thebriantkillmejo. Let's get to the big three, number three. Yeah, I think obviously we go into all the games wanting to win the games and, and even if we do win tomorrow, whatever the result is, we still have a third game to play and it won't be taken lightly at all. So, yeah, I think it's more of a job not done. Texas own Weston McKinney. Yup. Team USA back in action versus Australia and perhaps without their best player. 15 million people watch the first game. I think it's going to double this game as Australia will bring the crowd. But Seattle will be all about Team usa. Number two, economic disruptions, mass protests, backlash
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Julian Epstein
against mass protests, political conflicts that have shaken the very foundation of our democracy.
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Brian Kilmeade
Same spirit that will see America and the world through its present trials. President Obama gets his library. Yeah, it's over budget and it's four years late and uses some of that time to take shots at Donald Trump.
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Julian Epstein
Why?
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Brian Kilmeade
Number one, we believe international waterways should be free of tolls. And that's been our position. That's what you see, of course, in the 60 days of the MoU. And when you say it leaves it open, it doesn't really leave it open except in the sense that of course the final negotiations gonna set the terms of what comes after and those negotiations are on hold. Failure to launch 60 day sprint to a permanent peace deal is not happening today. We tried to explain why but the straight, the straight blockages have broken. Yep. Now we're not blocking the straight and they're not blocking the strait and no one's been attacked. So they're going to begin to organ in an organized way and it's not going to be easy. I was watching one of these ship captains being interviewed. There's still a lot of confusion to get through the strait and it's got to be toll free. And that's one of the things in these 14 points that is really vague. And if you listen to the Iranians they say they're setting up a permanent toll system that that is a non starter, you can't charge for an international waters. They wrote a book about that, Thomas Jefferson, the Tripoli Pirates because they were taking our guys hostage and taking a. Plundering the cargo and taking our ships. We had to go back there with attack ships, blockades Tripoli which is now Libya and eventually get a ground war and get all our guys out. We're never gonna allow that. So you talk to the Supreme Leader who's pretty banged up right now, hiding cuz he's scared. He says we're definitely gonna toll the street. That's never gonna happen. And Vice President Vance yesterday was great. You know he's very, very nice and he's very conversational but it was his plan that he led that got these 14 points done. That's gonna lead to 60 days of negotiation and day one is not happening. But I was shocked at how he went out of his way to blame Israel because Israel was not factored into this. And we're told don't bomb Hezbollah. Okay, number one, what are you talking about? Hezbollah has been rocketing us and we're responding. And if the Iran is demanding that Israel stop fighting Hezbollah. Hezbollah just killed four IDF soldiers. Do you think for a second Israel's not going to hit back? And if that's the reason you're not starting these 60 days of talks, then this is doomed to fail, which I think it is anyway. President's doing this for economic reasons and I thoroughly understand it. He does. Now he knows that there's a problem around the world with oil and getting the strategic oil reserves. Everybody's running out and our allies, not just our enemies. So this is part of the reason the calculus the midterms and the economy is the reason. But I was a little struck when the Vice President, United States went after Israel cut, cut 10 over the last three months. Two thirds of the defensive weapons that have protected your homeland have been built by American hands and paid for by American tax dollars. The problem for Israel is not Donald J. Trump. And anybody in Israel who thinks their biggest problem is the President of the United States needs to wake up and smell the reality of the situation that country is in. I just told you, no one says Donald Trump's a problem. But they know that they have to be able to hit Hezbollah. The only reason they're in Lebanon is not to hurt the Lebanese people. Marco Rubio is refereeing talks and a reapproachment between both nations. They are protecting themselves because it's a terror organization who they not will allow to get a foothold in that country again. Because the last time that happened and let Hamas live, they ended up having a whole bunch of Israelis and some Americans dying in October, on November 7, October 7. All these dates, sadly, for tragic reasons, are kind of blending together. So that's, that's my problem. Why is he tougher on Israel than he is Iran? I know why. Because a lot of those people on the extreme right in the podcast world want to be very anti Israel and the left very anti Israel. So it's kind of cool to be anti Israel. So the Vice President did his, took his shot of being anti Israel, but this is his plan and he's on the record. So, you know, he didn't want to fight in Iran and maybe you think that's a good thing. But now he's been told to work out a deal with Iran. Maybe those things are counterproductive, I am not sure. So we'll see what's going to happen in terms of what we're doing now with the 14 point plan and allowing them to immediately trade oil at the full freight at the trading rate. And now they're allowed to export oil not through ghost ships by shutting off their transponders to outlaw nations, but now to nations and commit transactions and release all the banking restrictions. Rich McCormick, a veteran congressman from Georgia, cut 13. In my opinion, once again, this agreement requires us to remove our entire, not just remove the blockade, but remove our navy from that area. That takes a while to build up. But if you want to strike them, if you want to take out their ability to take out other ships, you affect their electrical grid, I know that's
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Jonathan Bornstein
going to kill people.
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Brian Kilmeade
That's war, though. I think we need to start doing just what Ukraine did to Russia. Go after their storage facilities. They have 13 major ones that are running right now. Take out their electrical grid. Without electricity, you can't launch. And I get war is a tough thing, but you finish it. That's Congressman he knows maybe his fortunes will be affected, the majority in the House. He says, you finish it. And if we didn't stop, we stopped and got those two extra weeks would happen. But having said that, practically the president saw the market rise. He saw oil drop. He sees the economy on all other cylinders ready to roll, especially with the rise of AI. And he said, I'm going to put this thing on pause and give them a shot because we've done so much damage. Let's see if these new leaders will come around at all. There's about 5% chance that'll happen, and I think the President knows that. So here's Lindsey Graham. Cut 15. Some of the criticism of the MOU is valid, I think. But here's the way I look at it. Without the MOU being signed, there is no pathway to diplomacy to end the nuclear ambitions of Iran.
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Michael Dorgan
What does that leave you with?
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Brian Kilmeade
War, continuation of the status quo. So the upside of signing the MOU was greater, I think, than the downside. The deal itself is, is the big prize.
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Michael Dorgan
If it's a bad deal, I'll say
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Brian Kilmeade
so, in my view, and he will. But he also is very loyal to the President, who endorsed him right away and will campaign for him. He's practical and he knows he and the president have the same objectives. But the president's got to take in his military advice. He's got to take in the State Department advice. Then he's got to meet with his economic principals and they'll say, listen, we got a problem with oil and gas. It's probably going to double if we continue to bleed our strategic oil reserves, not just in America, but amongst our allies. And he meets with the G7. So he's got to take all these things into play. So the Pentagon has one view. The State Department has another view. The vice President has another view. The economic experts, the CEOs have another. And he says, all right, I got to make my decision. I'm totally willing to say the president got 77 million votes, I got none. But I also have been a student of what's happened after the 47 years, and I know they are. The Iranians are not going to see the light, and the North Koreans and Chinese are going to go out of their way along with the Russians. To arm up and rehabilitate that terror state. So we'll talk about that. But we'll take, we'll talk about that. In fact, I talked to General Kim one hour ago and here's you have to talk into the president. He says this is the big picture right now. Cut eight, cut 18.
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Julian Epstein
The president is the first of the eight presidents to deal with Iran in a consequential way and leading to significant military operations. No one has ever confronted them in
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Brian Kilmeade
such a manner and but now it's time to give the economy a moment to breathe. So when we come back, Kimberly Brown's next daughter of activists and pro football legends, Jim Brown. You're listening to Brian Kilmeade show Politics, current events and news that affects you. Brian's got a lot more to say. Stay with Brian Kilmeade. Ryan Reynolds here from IT Mobile.
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Brian Kilmeade
A talk show that's real. This this is the Brian Kilmeade Show. We are back. Father's Day is coming up on on Sunday. No matter if you are a dad, grandfather, whatever, it's the time to to take account of of your family and what you're thankful for or your dad that that has passed away. And that is the situation with Kimberly Brown, daughter of activist Jim Brown legend I was lucky enough to host a talk show with for about three years and then we stayed friends for the next 20. Sadly he passed away a couple of years ago. He was the athlete of the century in the 20th century but made more of an impact I would argue as an activist really turning out so turning around so many lives. Kimberly Brown is his daughter and joins us now. Kimberly, congratulations on your new book the legendary mindset. What was your approach to writing it?
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Kimberly Brown
My father honoring my father. But this book goes to the honor of our all of our fathers which is God Almighty. So God actually stranded me, took away everything made me job to put to keep me still to write this book to honor my father and to pass on his legacy as well as his mindset to the world.
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Brian Kilmeade
So what is the legendary mindset?
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Kimberly Brown
The legendary mindset is a system of thinking. It's about seeing, vision. It's about fearlessly executing, having an unstoppable mind and making a legendary impact on the world for positive change.
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Brian Kilmeade
And do you think that he had it before he became successful?
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Kimberly Brown
Yes, it is. Because it's only through God that you can become a legend and have the legendary mindset, because it's part of God's wisdom.
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Brian Kilmeade
So he told me that he goes, I'm spiritual, I'm not necessarily religious. How does that figure in?
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Kimberly Brown
Well, actually, towards the end. Are you talking about my father?
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Brian Kilmeade
Yep.
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Kimberly Brown
Yeah, towards the end, actually, I found out that George Foreman baptized him and he took Jesus Christ as his Lord and savior.
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Brian Kilmeade
How long ago before he passed away?
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Kimberly Brown
I think it was like a couple of years before he passed away. So, yeah.
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Brian Kilmeade
Tell me about the dad.
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Kimberly Brown
You know, the dad I know was a legend because of he was in my life. He was consistent. He was my provider, my protector. He fulfilled all my needs, and he passed on the most important thing, which was creation of me and the legendary mindset. This book is going to give you clarity. It brings, it takes you to remove all of the challenges, tribulations, and anything that's holding you back, especially fear. And so I want to pass that on to the audience because my father, the greatest and legendary number one in my eyes, we have to share that knowledge and that wisdom to the world so we can do better and make a positive impact for others.
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Brian Kilmeade
So, you know, people have to understand that he'd stopped playing sports at 29. So he had his best years. You could argue three or four years. I mean, he was just simply the best. Never. No one's ever seen anything like what he's done in the period in those nine years that he was a pro. In those years at Syracuse when no one let him, they didn't let him know, but they rallied. The town of Manhasset rallied to get him into Syracuse. And as soon as they had a chance to see him, they offered him the scholarship. They wouldn't offer it to him coming out of high school. And then he becomes the greatest running back ever in college and then in the pros. But how did he change to describe to you from the 29 year old who dominated on the field to the adult that dominated in the movies, and then as an activist, how did he grow?
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Kimberly Brown
How he grew is. I think he was really led by God. I think that was. It was Very spiritual. I think God had his hand on him from the very beginning because he was, was able to overcome. But from going from transitioning from football into movies is, you know, he was already filming the Dirty Dozen while he was playing football. And because art model was like, if you don't come back, you know, I'm going to find you. And then my dad on the set with Muhammad Ali said, you know what? I'm retiring. And so he went into movies full time, which able to be able. He was able to be an activist, you know, because in the book I talk about Colin Kaepernick. I talk about how he's an activist under a corporation, under a man's corporation. So with my dad being able to be an actor, he was able to be an activist and make a positive change.
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Brian Kilmeade
And also what he did in his prison program, the Ameri Ken program, how many lives he's turned around through teaching people, basically life skills that many in prison never had.
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Kimberly Brown
Exactly. And that's what I write in the book and I talk about that's why President Trump wanted to meet with him. Because my dad knew the black community, because my dad was in the streets with Amer Icann and with the Black Economic Union. So when my dad went to meet with President Elect Trump, you know, my dad told him the real what's going on with the black community and how he as president can help, you know, the American people.
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Brian Kilmeade
He told me Obama never called me back. When I put, when I reached out to Trump, he got back to me and we stayed in touch the whole time. That was not a popular decision for him to stay tight with Trump, was it?
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Kimberly Brown
You know, I don't think so. Towards if you're, you know, if you're a Democrat, if you're a liberal. But, you know, my dad's gonna always do what he's gonna do.
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Michael Dorgan
Yes.
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Kimberly Brown
You know, and that's what makes him a legend. And that's what I talk about in the book is like, we don't listen to outside noise. Legends make legendary moves.
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Brian Kilmeade
So why do you think he was had that mindset? Where do you get that from? Because he grew up as just his mom raised him. Single parent, never really knew his dad. Living on the second floor of a house and in Manhasset surrounded by extremely wealthy people. No one gave him anything. So a lot of people looking at that and saying, how do I get that toughness? What recommendation do you have? Where do you get that?
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Kimberly Brown
Where do you get that? You get it from my book. 1. But ultimately the number One is, you get it from God. Like I said, God had his hand on my dad. I remember him saying later on in the years is. He's like, I've lived at this house, Brian. Have you ever gone to my dad's house?
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Brian Kilmeade
Yes. Over in Hollywood.
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Kimberly Brown
Yep.
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Brian Kilmeade
On the cliff.
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Kimberly Brown
Yeah. Yes. So he would say, you know, I've been living here for 50 years. How he's like, how he was like. And he, he said it was God. He knew at that moment, like he took on a higher power. And I think that's why, you know, he got baptized by big George Foreman.
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Brian Kilmeade
And what do you miss most about him?
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Kimberly Brown
The talks. The talks. Yeah, we would. I think our record is about eight hours straight of just talking. And it's always about saving the world and, and making a positive impact. And I also speak about that in the book where he said that he doesn't come out of the box as racial. He comes out of the box as looking for like minded human beings to make a positive impact on the world.
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Brian Kilmeade
Especially when. When he grew up in segregation.
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Kimberly Brown
Yeah, exactly. And so I, I believe that God has just been having him and taking him to the next levels. And that's why he's a legend, because he wasn't just a football player, he was a football player. He, you know, he founded and managed Earth, Wind and Fire, which is a lot of people don't know. You know, I'm from ufc.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah.
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Kimberly Brown
Boxing, music management, acting.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah.
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Kimberly Brown
Raquel Welch.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah. It's all in the America. It's all in Kimberly's book. The legendary mindset, the story of her dad. Pick it up for Father's Day. Thanks, Kimberly. Ray Ban Meta lets you explore the world without a screen getting in the way so you can stay present in the moment.
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Rosemary Becky
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Jonathan Bornstein
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Brian Kilmeade
Get answers on the go without interrupting your flow. Ray Ban Meta Iconic Style meets Meta AI. Available at Walmart and other authorized retailers. A radio show like no other. It's Brian Kilmeade. Hey, we are back and I'll tell you, some crazy things are going on right now. And it reminds me a little of the Tea Party when the. When Barack Obama had that big election win over John McCain. And then we watched the economy fall apart in the last few months under George W. Bush. We could debate whose fault that was and why it happened. Or is it just flat out corruption, but there's been movies done about it, so let's move forward. Well, after that, we set up a midterm where the Republicans won big and the Tea Party just came out of nowhere. And they talked about fiscal responsibility, but it divided a lot in the Republican Party. Now, the Democrats have their own version of this, in my view. They have their own version because it's not called a Tea Party or a portion of the Democratic Party. It's called socialism slash communism. They feel as though the rich are the problem. Green energy's gotta come back, go easy. When it comes to crime. There's like 26 things that they are for that are fundamentally against the average American mindset, which is free enterprise, entrepreneurship. They want to raise taxes and vilify success and spread out the wealth. It's pretty clear that doesn't work, but it seems to be resonating, and that's where the momentum is. On the left with me right now is Rosemary. Rosemary Becky, a Republican strategist and economic economic expert and founder of Jersey First. Rosemary, how do you explain the rise of socialism?
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Rosemary Becky
You know, frankly, it's hard to explain what's going on here, but I do think it's a sense of Americans and certain groups feeling frustrated. Right. And looking for solutions. I do think that that is a factor in what's going on and who they're blaming. You kind of pointed that out. Right? I'm blaming big corporations. I'm blaming the rich things. You know, people like. I think that that is factoring into this here.
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Brian Kilmeade
So they do that. So they want to. Bernie Sanders is suddenly front and center. He's the most powerful force in the Democratic Party now. The Democrats successfully pushed him down. Whether you like it or not, he was en route to getting the nomination against Hillary. He was being strong. When Biden was anointed as the. In the middle of the pandemic, he was starting to rise there. Why don't you think they're trying to stop him now?
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Rosemary Becky
Because I think they see it playing out and happening. I mean, in my own district in New Jersey, we just elected a socialist. We went from being a Republican district to now having a socialist and probably one of the communities that's on the wealthier side and things like that.
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Brian Kilmeade
What district is that?
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Rosemary Becky
So it's the 11th district in New Jersey.
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Brian Kilmeade
And who won there?
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Rosemary Becky
It is a woman who is a socialist that won there.
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Brian Kilmeade
Won a special election?
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Rosemary Becky
Yes. Won a special election? Yes.
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Brian Kilmeade
When. When the governor became governor.
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Rosemary Becky
Right.
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Brian Kilmeade
So we're looking right now. So if you're a Republican, which you are, and you want to strategize against that. Do you. Would you relish the opportunity to run against a socialist?
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Rosemary Becky
I would. Because you know what? I think you gotta. I gotta think you gotta get the messaging right. Right. And I think you've gotta embrace, you know, the issues around affordability. Right. And lowering taxes and less spend and particularly the reining in of the spending. And I think that that's an important component of the message that has to be out there. I do think that when we talk about the one big beautiful bill, I think we absolutely have to be out there talking about what a difference that's made and can continue to make. Think about all the policies in there we made permanent for businesses. And so I think that that's a really important component of the policy. And I think we have to talk about ways to continue to, you know, lower taxes and lower spending.
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Brian Kilmeade
Well, right now you have a situation where the big beautiful bill is basically it. They did a reconciliation bill to fund dhs. Some people say that the third one's not coming. But what you do have is a market going through the roof, an all time high. And now you have oil going down to $74 per barrel at 65 is basically as low as you can go in the. So now we're seeing under $4. Unless you're one of those states like yours, New Jersey with high taxes, gas.
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Rosemary Becky
Right. High taxes and high spending. I mean, we're going through a budget cycle. Yeah, it's California all over and New York all over again and stuff. And it's just got to be a component. Frankly, I would have loved to have seen the second reconciliation be broader and encompass more. Unfortunately, there's not time to do a third reconciliation, but a third reconciliat should have more to me, more tax incentives, more things that would help Americans.
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Brian Kilmeade
Right. So when you look at the House right now, how many seats are actually up for battle?
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Rosemary Becky
So there's only 18 according to the Cook report, toss up races. And 14 of those are Republican races.
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Brian Kilmeade
So does that include the redistricting? Has that taken redistricting into account?
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Rosemary Becky
Yes, yes, that does. The Cook report does.
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Brian Kilmeade
So out of the 18 races, 14 races you say are Republican seats, right?
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Rosemary Becky
Correct.
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Brian Kilmeade
So what do you think the chances of you holding those seats?
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Rosemary Becky
I think it's gonna be tough. You know, there's some places where, you know, you've got the dynamics of very, very blue progressive states areas. Again, New Jersey, we've got the seventh District where Tom Kaine is New York, we've got Mike Lawler. There's some places out there where one,
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Brian Kilmeade
two times in a row.
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Rosemary Becky
Right.
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Brian Kilmeade
Are you what worries you most about the third for Lawler?
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Rosemary Becky
Again? I think it's this, this sentiment, this anti Trump sentiment that's out there. I think those are the things that I worry about. The, you know, I think that it will really depend on how Americans are feeling and how people are feeling about their pocketbook as we get closer to that election and you know, if we're still don't have any kind of certainty in the Middle East, I really worry that, you know, he's going to have a tough time overcoming the other side's narrative.
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Brian Kilmeade
So Tom Kaine Jr. Is going back to Washington today, but we don't know where he's been for the last three months. That seat's tough anyway in New Jersey. Tell me about this race. Where has he been?
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Rosemary Becky
So we don't know. He does say he's going to address it, but we don't know. That's a really tough seat. And in fact with redistricting they made it more red and included parts of a county that were very red. And so, you know, but that whole area has been trending bluer and bluer.
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Brian Kilmeade
Right. So let's keep it in New York for a second. Here's an ad with Zorra Mamdani, the avowed socialist who sounds like a communist, picking out candidates to run against established Democrats. Listen to this ad. New York, we know anything's possible with a great team. I'm Brad Lander and I'll block billionaires from buying our elections. I'm Marielisa Avila Chevalier and I'll defend New York by abolishing ice. I'm Claire Valdez and I'll stand up against bad landlords and greedy corporations. Get out and vote. This is the team. So he's taking on his. It's not. You're not even running against Republicans yet.
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Kimberly Brown
Yeah.
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Brian Kilmeade
What do you think about this?
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Rosemary Becky
No, it's very concerning and I mean it's resonating, it's resonating around, you know, in those very deep blue areas.
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Brian Kilmeade
So here they want to end the war on drugs. Yeah. Let's let drugs run wild. College for all. That's interesting. Housing for all. Okay. 32 hour works week. Tax the rich green. New deal, free Palestine, end the US War machine.
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Michael Dorgan
Okay.
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Brian Kilmeade
Cut back, expand seats in the House. Popular vote for the president, replace the two party system. Fully extend voting rights to criminals and noncitizen. Statehood for DC Sounds great.
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Rosemary Becky
Who's gonna pay for it, right? Who's gonna pay for all this? Where's the money gonna go?
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Brian Kilmeade
They wanna also pack the court.
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Rosemary Becky
And by the way, and you see this phenomenon happening around the country. You know, look at California. You wanna put tax. And guess what? People are leaving. Right?
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Brian Kilmeade
People are just going to run against us. Why wouldn't this. By the way, I was talking to Rosemary Becky, a Republican strategist, economic expert. So why wouldn't this be easy to run against?
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Rosemary Becky
It should be. And again, I think you've got to get the messaging out there, you know, make free life.
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Brian Kilmeade
How do you say it?
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Rosemary Becky
You have to talk about. You have to talk about lowering taxes. Less money, more freedom. You've got to talk about those issues. You really do.
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Brian Kilmeade
So then you have the Senate. So you look in New Hampshire, they say on the generic ballot, Susan Collins is down by 10. But specifically running against Graham Platner. It's one with Graham Platner with the Nazi tattoo, the abuse of women, him on these dating websites for teens, what he said about purple hearts recipients when he saw a video of a teenager, young girl trying to kill herself and thankfully she wasn't able to, his response was she should try harder. I mean, this is just a despicable human being.
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Rosemary Becky
Right.
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Brian Kilmeade
So is it. And he's a socialist.
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Kimberly Brown
Right.
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Brian Kilmeade
Your thoughts about running against that?
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Rosemary Becky
So again, I do think that one of the issues out there and problems out there is the anti Trump sentiment. Right. Voting against that. But I do think, you know, that, look, Susan Collins has run many successful races. I do think she'll prevail. I do think she's doing the hard work and out there talking about how to solve issues, how to make life more affordable, how to.
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Brian Kilmeade
Not exactly a Trumper.
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Rosemary Becky
No.
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Brian Kilmeade
So if they're gonna say she's maga, that doesn't pass the last.
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Rosemary Becky
No, that's not gonna.
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Brian Kilmeade
Here's what Bill Maher said about Platner, which I found surprising because sometimes Bill Maher can be logical. Then there's the sexting while married. Scary behavior. So say some of his exes. Old posts about how he's a. And all cops are bastards and black people don't tip. And then of course, there's the Nazi tattoo on his chest. I mean, seriously, this guy's whole life is the movie the Hangover. And yet I would still urge the folks in Maine to vote for him for two reasons. One, we need to restore balance in our government and a Democratic Senate would help a lot with that. And two, get used to it. America is a country filled with a lot of broken, horribly educated, phone addicted, sort of nutty people. And as long as we live in a representative democracy, we are always electing our reflection in the mirror. So he's saying, balance out the power even if he's a flawed candidate. What kind of logic is that?
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Rosemary Becky
This terrible logic. He's basically saying, balance out Donald Trump. Isn't that what he said? You're right. And that's terrible logic. Terrible logic. It ought to be about the issues.
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Brian Kilmeade
So I have Mike Rogers on Sunday, and he barely lost the last election to Slotnik, who fancies herself a moderate. He's gonna be going against somebody who's extremely progressive or a radical. If this is this guy, El said we're gonna find out, I think on Tuesday who he's gonna go up against. Mike Rogers might be your best chance to flip a seat in the Senate.
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Rosemary Becky
Yeah, absolutely. He's a great candidate. And, you know, I think again, I think he's gonna, you know, you look at Michigan, I think he's going to resonate. And he's been out there, you know, he talks about the fact that in that first go around, he got a late start, the primary set himyou know, having an August primary set him behind in the process. And so I think that the fact that he's been out there campaigning, people know him, I think that he will
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Brian Kilmeade
be successful, no doubt about it. And I think when you have if Rogers can be successful, a lot of people think maybe John Sununu could be successful in New Hampshire. How's that campaign going? I have not heard much from that. Is he and Scott Brown battling it out? I haven't even heard much from Scott Brown.
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Rosemary Becky
You know, you don't hear much about it. I think they are battling out, but it's not really on anybody's radar. I don't think that it's one that folks think we can pick up.
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Brian Kilmeade
So in the issues that matter, the one that's emerging is fraud. What we're doing, the Trump team is doing in fraud in states. Ohio is one with Minnesota, Maine is another. California, New York, finding millions if not billions of dollars of people just bilking this social welfare system.
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Rosemary Becky
Right. And that's a perfect example of what to be talking about on the campaign trail. Right. And it all leads to less spending. Right. Combating that fraud, waste and abuse. And I think we're starting to see that it's pretty much happened everywhere. And again, I think that Republicans have got to get the messaging right. Gotta be talking about how do you control costs? Well, first thing you do, easiest thing do, let's get rid of the fraud, waste and abuse. I mean, that was a big part of the one big beautiful bill. Right. And getting rid of that and combating that, it's, you know, to get things under control.
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Brian Kilmeade
All right, Rebecca, Thanks, Rosemary. Thank you. You got to, you have your hands full. It's going to be tough. But Republicans are looking to defy history. And there are some positive polls on the generic ballot that shows them within 5 of Democrats when they did not have a good midterm in 2018. Under Trump, it was in double digits. Rosemary, thanks so much.
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Rosemary Becky
Thank you for having me.
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Brian Kilmeade
Got it back in the morning Moment. Keeping you informed, engaged, and always a step ahead. It's the Brian Kill me show.
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Julian Epstein
Yeah, I think we've set a standard
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Brian Kilmeade
for ourselves and yeah, we've set an expectation.
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Julian Epstein
Expectation. But if that's the level we can
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Brian Kilmeade
perform at, then why not do that all the time? And it's not going to be as easy. Very tough, no matter who you play against. And of course, with the team, with Australia, they've made some really good ones in the last World Cup. So we need to be ready to go. Hopefully, you know, Christian's gonna be ready for the game because, you know, he's a big player to us and we really want him to be there.
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Julian Epstein
Of course.
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Brian Kilmeade
But they do have depth and they're talking about Christian Pulisic. Pulisic, who hurt his cav in the game one and was dynamic when he was in. And now they're going to. The US national team is playing against Australia normally. Would I talk soccer on the show?
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Jonathan Bornstein
No.
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Brian Kilmeade
Even though I know soccer and played it since I was in first grade. But I think the whole country's talking about it. After the remarkable game one win four one over Paraguay, thought to be one of the better teams who beat the world champions Argentina and tied Brazil. And then the US Goes out and crushes them. But it's been a while. I mean you have small islands like Cape Verde tying Spain, who's won a World cup before. So there's a lot of crazy things going on and I think Australia is going to play hard today. But you're going to love this game. I was talking to Lexi Lalas with Fox and Friends an hour ago on on the show and he said that he believes that Australia's going to pack it in, just look to counterattack. That's almost giving up that you have as much talent as the US that used to be the way the US play. But for Australia who lost to the US 2:1 when used to 2:1 gaming, you know it can go either way. And you saw them win against Turkey and they beat Turkey in a surprise. So Turkey's going to be, they're going to play Turkey on the 25th in Los Angeles. Australia's today, three o' clock in Seattle. You're going to have 70,000 people crazed American fans pulling for them. Yeah, there's going to be storm Australians who took the 24 hour flight but not many and they're going to be pro American and it's going to matter and I think they, they'll show some depth. My feeling is I keep Pulisic on the sideline if he can go but there's a risk. I keep him on the sideline and put him in late. If you're trailing or tied and you need that goal because you do have some firepower and I do think that you have some depth and that's what you have it for. If you're in your head going deep in this tournament, you don't want your best player being lost in game two, a game you should win and should win without him. But if you know this, this win matters because you take this win and you break out, that means you're in the knockout round. But do you want to be in the knockout round without your best player? If you're in your knockout round without your best player, people are going to look back and maybe you will as a coach and say, man, why did I play him in game two? I got this great bench. And that's the other thing. We're seeing so much dynamic, so many positive things about the country. When we're not selling it, we're just living it. So people come in and they walk New York City and they're loving everything New York City has to offer, offer. I'm seeing them take over sports bars and be thoroughly welcomed. I'm seeing what's happening in Boston and Dallas and seeing people loving in Miami, talking about the food we have, the, the beaches that we maybe take for granted. And I was watching this one Australian just put themselves on camera and post on Instagram and saying, you know, everyone tells us we have the world's best beaches. He's walking on the beach and saying, I think theirs might be better.
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Julian Epstein
Right?
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Brian Kilmeade
You don't get that in as, but man, this is a lot of ad for America. A lot of millions of people coming back and going to say, you know, I spent June and July in America watching the World cup and I loved it. And I think that's great for the country especially as we celebrate year 250. Brian kill me Joe. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division, it's Brian. Everyone from 48 to 6 in Midtown Manhattan, around the country, around the world, this is the show you chose to listen to. And for that I am truly honored. Got a big weekend coming ahead and of course today the US national team plays. It's going to be cool. Julian Epstein is going to be with us shortly and Jonathan Bornstein, American foreign professional player who played left back for, in the MLS for years. So he's going to be with us too. So I just got to share with you this, this news that just broke a short time ago. Iran has reclosed the strait instead of coming to Switzerland, they say because Israel refuses to leave Lebanon and US Forces ongoing presence in the region. You idiots. You think that if we were going to leave the. We're not going to leave the region if we're going to scale down, you think we're doing it in 24 hours and before the 60 days are up? That's another none of the tax. In a statement read over maritime radio, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard says the US Was in violation of the memorandum of Understanding. The two countries which President Trump and Iranian president sign are, quote, Israel. Since Israel's withdrawal from Lebanon, the complete lifting of the naval blockade and the withdrawal of American terrorist forces from the terrorists from the Persian Gulf and the region are among the main conditions of the agreement between Iran and the United States. All ships are requested for the sake of their security and safety not to approach the strait, you idiots. So here we go again. Market's not going to like that. The President's realizing once and for all the only thing they understand is complete, total victory for us. That's it. Total victory. These people are terrorists. They have no interest in survival. Julian Epstein joined us now served as Chief Counsel to the House Judiciary Committee and staff director the House Oversight Committee. And he's still a main player. Great analyst, Julian. First off, instead of debating the 14 points, it looks like we got Iran not even living up to their 14 points.
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Julian Epstein
Yeah. Good morning, Brian. I'm not surprised. And Iran has always, always, always banked, acted in bad faith. They've always banked on America having a lower pain tolerance in a negotiation. Oil prices spike up a little bit and they think the west will cave. I'm not surprised they're playing this game. I think what Donald Trump did in the war was incredibly courageous. I think we have never seen so much won on the battlefield. But I think the deal, the 14 point deal, squanders a lot of what was won on the battlefield. So I would not be sorry to see this MOU go by the wayside.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, I tell you, in the short term, I guess the market and oil would pay the price. And people are concerned about the strategic oil reserves. But a lot of people agree with you. And one of them is Congressman Rich McCormick, who is a veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan, now a Congressman from Georgia. Cut 13. In my opinion, once again, this agreement requires us to remove our entire, not just remove the blockade, but remove our
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Jonathan Bornstein
navy from the area.
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Brian Kilmeade
That takes a while to build up. But if you want to strike them, if you want to take out their ability to take out other ships, you affect their electrical grid, I know that's
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Jonathan Bornstein
going to kill people.
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Brian Kilmeade
That's war, though. I think we need to start doing just what Ukraine did to Russia. Go after their storage facilities. They have 13 major ones that are brimming right now. Take out their electrical grid. Without electricity, you can't. Launch war is a tough thing, but you finish it. I mean, that's what you're saying, isn't it?
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Julian Epstein
No question. Look, we had our foot on the throats of this terrorist regime and I don't know why we declared a ceasefire on April 8. It was a unilateral ceasefire. We, we stopped bombing and they closed the strait. And then our response to that was sort of the blockade, which I don't think achieved all that much on our, on our side. But you know, look, we were, we were winning on every aspect of this. I mean, even, even with a close straight, we were moving probably 1 to 2 million barrels a day through military escorts. Almost 10 million barrels a day were moving through the east west pipeline through Saudi. We were effectively breaking the blockade. And this deal now is, I just can't understand it. I mean, the JCPOA, Brian, was worth about 50 million in liquid, liquid assets, $50 billion in liquid assets to the regime. This deal could be worth 500 billion. When you add up the 300 billion for the reconstruction, 100 billion that's going to be unfrozen from the Chinese and Gulf banks that, that are tied up on sanctions and then about 60 or 70 billion dollars a year in sales that Iran will be able to get mostly to China with the lifted sanctions. This could be as much as $500 billion and we're not getting that much in return. The nuclear deal is, is very, very flimsy. There's nothing on ballistics, there's nothing on terror. There's nothing really satisfying in terms of what the future of the governance, future governance of the strait will be. I think the President was getting very, very bad advice on this. I think Iran will continue to act in bad faith. And we were very close. We had almost solved the closing of the strait problem again through the pipeline and military escorts. And with a little bit more military pressure, I think we could have gotten them to cry uncle. And the President, I think, and the administration sort of fumbled this at the 95 yard.
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Brian Kilmeade
And I think it was Gulf, I think it was the Gulf states that put the pressure on out of respect for them. I want you to hear what General Jack Keane said, who is like you, feels as though we should have finished the job and would go, should go back. Cut 20.
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Julian Epstein
It shifted to economic objectives and political objectives involving the midterm as taking the priority security. His advisers landed the idea that because of the persistence of the shutdown of the Straits of Hormuz and that the oil and gas prices were going to continue to remain at the levels they were at, if not get higher if we return to military operations and the potential, if we return to military operations, that the Iranians would be able to successfully retaliate against the Gulf states oil and gas infrastructure. Military leaders discount that because they think we could adequately defend it and also take away their most of their offensive capability to do that.
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Brian Kilmeade
So he knows, he said, look, the President talked to his sources. He was concerned about the economy and he's got a reason to. Because Julian, as you know, you come from the political world. He's got to worry about the military world. He's got to talk to his economists, got to talk to his allies, and he's got to figure out, come up with that decision. Decision. My feeling is he said, yeah, I'll get, we'll do this 60 days. Probably have to Extend it because not everything's going to be done. Get me to the midterms and on November 5th, I'm not worried about politics anymore. I will do the right thing because the next guy or woman is not going to do this.
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Julian Epstein
Well, yes, I think it's, it's not a 60 day, I think it's a five month window. I think it's through the midterms, no question. And I think the President has had all the right instincts and the courageous instincts about the need to finish the job. You don't put out 80% of a fire, you got to put out 100% of a fire. And I think that, as I say, I think we had mostly solved the straight problem. We were getting close to it, we were escorting more and more oil through on a daily basis. And I mean, here's what it comes down to, Brian, and if the west does not have a pain tolerance for a slight increase in oil prices, and I say that with all due respect to people that working people that have to make ends meet. But if we don't have a pain tolerance to deal with, what is an existential issue here for not just Israel, but for the west, if Iran develops preemptive ballistic capability or nuclear capability, then a couple dollar spike in oil prices, gas prices is going to look like a walk in the park compared to how the geopolitical world will be reconfigured with an Iran with that kind of military capability. And I just think, I think what the. So, yeah, I'm critical of this deal. I think it's a bad deal. But I'm also critical of the President for not making the case to the public. I mean, I think you have to go on and say to the public this is an existential threat, threat to our security and to our economy if we don't put out this fire. I don't think he's done that job. I think he should be using Marco Rubio much more than the Vice President. Best communicator in the administration.
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Brian Kilmeade
I know I'm not. The President is. The vice president does fine, right? He's good, he's very likable, but he's not into this. Everybody knows it. He allowed the leak. He doesn't deny it. He did not want to do this operation. Now he said, go cut a peace deal. What? Why should I think this peace deal is going to help anybody? This is J.D. vance's peace deal.
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Julian Epstein
That's right. And he's sort of making J.D. vance. This is the equivalent of what President Biden did to Kamala Harris by making her the borders are he's giving her a thank, but he's doing giving she didn't do it A thankless task.
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Brian Kilmeade
She didn't know.
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Julian Epstein
I know that. But he also, I don't think JD Was particularly good yesterday when he said things like Iran is not going to get a cent until we are satisfied that they have executed their end of the deal. That's false. In the agreement itself, it says upon signing of this memorandum, the secretary of treasury will start issuing waivers for sanctions. Iran can go out and sell oil to China effectively today upon the signing of the memorandum, and that's worth five, six billion dollars a month. So I think J.D. vance was just factually wrong on some of the things that he was saying yesterday, his sort of chastising of Israel when they took out a leader that killed five U.S. five Americans.
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Brian Kilmeade
This is what else it bothers me too listen to what he said about Israel. Cut 9. Donald J. Trump is the only head of state in the entire world who is sympathetic to the nation of Israel at this moment in time. And he happens to be the head of state of the world superpower. If I was in the cabinet of the Israeli government, I might not be attacking the only powerful ally that I have anywhere left in the entire world. And the second message I would give to some of those cabinet members, Bibi, to his credit, has not gone down this path. So what is he talking about? He says if I'm a cabinet member that people went, they did not discuss this with Israel, but yet they're supposed to pull out of Lebanon when the only reason they're in Lebanon is because Hezbollah is rocking them, vacating, forcing them to vacate the northern part of their country.
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Julian Epstein
Well, again, I, I just don't know who's briefing the vice president when he says that the United States is the only country that's friendly towards Israel. That's just factually wrong. I mean, you go through India, you go through Gulf State allies, I mean that's, he's just factually wrong about that. But secondly, to be chastising Israel, as you point out, when they are defending against a maniacal genocidal terrorist organization that has 250,000 rockets buried under the houses of southern Lebanon and have been firing them continually at Israeli civilians since October 7th, and now he's suggesting that Israel, the only democracy, the only pluralist democracy in the Middle east, does not have a right to self defense because they think that might upend what is a very, very bad deal in this 14 point memorandum. I don't get that. That doesn't sound like the J.D. vance that I know. I think that J.D. vance is a good guy. I sort of like him. I think he's been an effective vice president. But boy, I think he's, he had a really bad day yesterday.
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Brian Kilmeade
You're, you're the political expert, but you know who he's talking to. Number one, I think the whole podcast world on the right is very anti Israel and he spent some time promoting his book on some of those venues, number one. And number two is it's kind of cool to be anti Israel these days. So he can go out there and take a shot because President Trump took a shot the day before. So we went there and he took an opportunity to act tougher on Israel than Iran. He was defiant for like five minutes about Israel when we know too, by the way, Israel's got some Gulf state allies and they're the ones who gave UAE portion of the Iron Dome to protect itself. So I think, and you mentioned India is a very good friend. Notice Israel doesn't attack Egypt, doesn't attack Jordan. They got no problems with Bahrain, no problems with Saudi Arabia. There's no problems with the uae. There's no, there's no problem with Oman. They have a problem with terrorists that try to kill them. That's what they're guilty of, trying to kill them first.
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Julian Epstein
Right. I think that's very well said, Brian. And yes, I think he is playing to the woke right that doesn't understand, I think historically the Judeo Christian tradition and doesn't understand what Israel is doing is on the front line of defending the west against jihadist, genocidal, ideologically 12th century based regimes. And I don't understand how the woke right is so out of touch with what is going on in terms of what this fight means for the West.
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Brian Kilmeade
I know. So I want to bring you to the woke left. There's a rise of socialists. It's the number one story in politics. Mondame yesterday, big rally with Bernie Sanders pushing forward two socialist candidates against two established Democrats. Listen, the outcome of these elections will reverberate around our city and around our
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Michael Dorgan
country and it will send a very clear message.
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Brian Kilmeade
When we win, we will make it clear that our movement is more powerful than their money.
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Julian Epstein
And there is something else that the
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Brian Kilmeade
American people understand and that is that the politics and the policies of the democratic establishment government are no longer good enough. So he wants green energy, he wants to raise taxes, he wants to double the taxes on billionaires. You Know the list your thoughts about what's happening to your party and where are the moderates speaking up, saying that's not okay.
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Julian Epstein
Well, it's John Kennedy's old line that if you ride the back of a tiger long enough, you'll end up in its fellow. And that's what's happening with the moderates inside the Democratic Party. They feel like they can contain the socialist left and they can't. The socialist left is going to swallow them and it'll end up destroying the centrists within the party. I think the rise of the democratic socialist left is a function of the Internet age, the socialist left. The primary vocabulary of the socialist left is rage and anger and deconstructionism. And that's the kind of thing that works in social media. That's the kind of thing that works on the Internet. We've known that with Facebook since 2012. It's a bad brand. It works in the inner city enclaves, it works in deep blue areas. It's a bad brand nationally for the Democrats. And programmatically, this idea that you could redistribute your way out of every single problem, that you should promote dependency rather than agency, I mean, that is basically a siren song for the left that will not work. So it's a promise that the socialists, the progressive socialists can't deliver on. It's a siren song in the sense that it's taking the Democrats to the very, very far left left in a way that'll make them even more unpopular with the general electorate.
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Brian Kilmeade
I hope so for the country.
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Julian Epstein
Already down into 25% range right now.
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Brian Kilmeade
I hope so for the country. I like to see some people like Bill Clinton stand up and go, excuse me, this direction is not going to work and it's not the party I used to be president of. Julian Epstein, thanks so much. When we come back, we'll take some of your calls. We put a lot out there and there's a lot going on. As you see just been announced the Iran has reclosed the strait. Don't move. It's Brian Kill made.
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Brian Kilmeade
If you're interested in it. Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmeade. Hey, we are back. Let's go out to the phones. Listen on WOKV in Jacksonville. Debbie. Hey, Debbie. Hi, Brian, how are you? Good, good. What's on your mind? I just wanted to. Well, two points. I told your call taker that when you guys are on the five. No one really addresses Harold or Jessica in regards to their counting these Socialist communist wins as I call them as Democrat wins. They prefer a communist or a socialist over a Republican in the United States in this day and age. I don't understand their thinking. They're part of the democr Democrat mainstream. Why aren't they trying to fix that? It's terrifying. They're afraid. They're afraid of the DSA money.
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Julian Epstein
I remember.
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Brian Kilmeade
They're afraid of the DSA money. They're afraid of being primaried. So I appreciate it. Listen, it will take some more calls too, but at the bottom of the hour we talk a little World cup soccer and then get right back to what's happened in Iran. As you can see, the run has reclosed the straight. What's our move next? You listen to Brian. Brian Kilme Show.
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Kimberly Brown
Radio.
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Brian Kilmeade
That makes you think this is the Brian Kilmeade Show. You win tomorrow, you're guaranteed to make it to the knockout rounds. Does that mean anything or is it
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Michael Dorgan
not job done unless you qualify first?
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, I think obviously we go into all the games wanting to win the games and even if we do win tomorrow, whatever the result is, we still have a third game to play and it won't be taken lightly at all. So yeah, I think it's more of a job not done. So that is, that is Western McKinney and he is talking about the chances the US winning today at 3 o' clock Eastern time as they take on Australia game. Many people think they will win. But if you watch Australia play game one, you know how well they did play and are capable of playing. We talked to Alexi Lalas last hour and on Fox and Friends and he said I look for them to pack it in, look to counter attack. What about Jonathan Bournstein, American soccer player, MLS Rookie of the Year in 06. He's also an All Star team guy, two time All Star and a silver medalist with Team USA in the Maccabee Games. Jonathan, your thoughts about going into this game? How do you think the US is approaching it?
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Jonathan Bornstein
Well, first of all, Brian, thank you for having me on the show. I do think that the US Is going to take this game very seriously. I think, you know, obviously the result that Australia had against Turkey was a positive one for them. I agree with Alexi Lawless that I think the Socceroos Australia are going to kind of park the bus in the back and probably counterattack. And so the US has to have a lot of patience, find their opportunities to be able to attack, and then obviously make the most of those opportunities when they come.
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Brian Kilmeade
So they want to slow them down like the US when they got the momentum, Paraguay tried to keep up. They couldn't, obviously. So if you want to slow down a team like the US Possibly with better, better, better team play, who might be faster, what do you do? How do you slow the US Down?
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Jonathan Bornstein
So, I mean, there's a couple of ways to do that. I would say one way is the way that we all think that Australia is going to play by pushing themselves into a low block. They're not going to have as many spaces for the US to be playing in between their lines. So we might have sustained possession kind of in the back of our field, but it's going to be very hard for us to kind of penetrate in between the lines of Australia. And that's one way to kind of slow the team down, obviously, in their defensive half.
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Kimberly Brown
Right.
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Brian Kilmeade
And why are they playing so much better with this new coach? What are they doing different? Do you have any idea?
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Jonathan Bornstein
Referring to the United States, Australia, Australia. I think they just have a solid game plan. I think everyone's bought into what the coach wants their system to be. I think, you know, obviously, if at times you even saw it with like Cape Verde against Spain, where the teams will keep themselves in a low block, very hard to play against. Spain wasn't able to create any true opportunities to score on goal, and Cape Verde kind of counter attacked. They almost win the game at the end there. And I think Australia is doing pretty much the same thing, and we'll probably see that tomorrow.
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Brian Kilmeade
This Australian defender, Kai Trewin, talked about the mindset of his team. Listen, cut 44. I have never wanted to win a
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Jonathan Bornstein
game more than this one, I can
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Brian Kilmeade
tell you that for free. But to be honest, they give him a little bit more stick than I'd say. They give Ado a night training because obviously there's a lot of South American boys and I think they prefer Australia, you know, maybe like they call it an upset, beat the US and they try and give him a bit of stick. About it too. But he doesn't really, he doesn't really budge too much. He's pretty locked into what he does.
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Julian Epstein
So.
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Brian Kilmeade
But yeah, like I said before, I've
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Julian Epstein
never wanted to win a game more
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Brian Kilmeade
than I've wanted to win this game against the US for sure. So that's pretty much the mindset they have. And know what they've heard, Jonathan? They've heard a lot of the American commentators saying out of these three games this will be the easiest. And that bothers the Australian. The players haven't said it, but the experts have.
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Jonathan Bornstein
Yeah, I actually don't agree with the experts on that one because I think every single game matters at this World cup up. We've already seen it with other teams playing bigger on paper, name teams and having good results. So I think the US more than anything has to be very prepared to for a difficult game and a game where everyone's going to need to be on the same page, bring the same energy as they brought the first game against Paraguay and expect a battle from Australia.
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Brian Kilmeade
So I want you to hear the coach talk about the health of Christian Pulisic who got banged twice in his calf and it's still bothering him. He couldn't practice with the team cut 41. He's evolving. He's much better from Friday.
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Kimberly Brown
We'll see.
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Brian Kilmeade
I think at the moment we see it's not available for tomorrow, will be available for the next game. But I think he's doing a massive effort. Trying to be ready when this type of thing happen always is painful. But I think Christian is strong and with great mentality and is doing a
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Michael Dorgan
fantastic effort to try to be ready
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Jonathan Bornstein
as soon as possible.
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Brian Kilmeade
So what figures into whether he plays or not? Because in the US for example, does not think they're going to get knocked out, especially if the way they played in the first round. The worry is if he gets hit again or he strains it, he's out for the tournament. So, you know, you could be as tough as you want. If you tear a muscle in your calf, you're not playing. So what do you, what do you think goes into this decision?
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Jonathan Bornstein
I mean, I think a lot of things go into this one being how does Christian feel? You know, if it's a contusion, it can be something that they can kind of rub out and put a little bit of time since last, last game he may be feeling good. If it's more of a strain, then you got to be protecting that and you know, you risk the, the idea of getting more injured because you're compensating and, and injuring other parts of your body. But I would think it would come down to Christian and their conversations they're having with the medical staff. Half and you know, all of us want Christian to be playing. That's a question mark. We'll see as they, you know, roll out the lineups. But you know, we're all hoping that Christian is going to be able to play and perform today.
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Brian Kilmeade
So. So Tom, the Jonathan Bornstein, longtime American soccer player, rookie of the year, a two time all star in the mls. So I think the coach has got to really think about what he wants to do. For example, he's got such depth now. You know, Tim Way is not starting. He would be very dangerous out there. They have other players and if the score is tied, do you think this is a possibility, Jonathan? You don't start them, but then you pull them off the bench. If the go score is tied or you need a goal, you're trailing by a goal because he does provide that type of offense. But see if you can give him another week to heal. Do you think that would be that? Judging by what people are saying? Because I'm not at practice, that's probably what I would do. What about you?
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Jonathan Bornstein
I think you have a very good point there, Brian. I, I think, you know, we do have other guys who can step in and perform for the US Right? Guys like Gio Reyna or even Alexander has potentially a Brendan Aronson, right, who can step into that position and still provide a very good, you know, game for the U.S. i think we saw that with Lamina Mall with Spain as well, where they did not start him because he's kind of nursing an injury. The game is tied, 00. They bring him on and he has an impact in the last 20 minutes of that game. So could we see something similar with Christian in this game? It's a, it's a very good possibility.
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Brian Kilmeade
So what do you think it says for your league? When they told Lionel Messi when he comes to the U.S. well, there goes your game. The league is not up to Premier League status. It's not like you're going to go play in Italy or Germany. So if you go there, he's done and he comes here and he shines. But of course the experts are saying, well, you're going to watch internationally, he's going to have slipped because plus he's getting older and he comes out in game one and he scores a hat trick. I think that looks great for the mls.
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Jonathan Bornstein
Oh, you're Completely. Right. I think I haven't heard it in the stadium. Yesterday I was at the. The Bosnia Switzerland game, and people were asking me that exact question, like, is Messi able to score so many times in the MLS because the defending is worse than it was in Europe? And I. My only point was, well, did you see him in the World cup just recently? Like, he scored three goals against. Against top competition. I think he steps up to perform every single game. And it's just a. It's a very good example to everybody just how good MLS is, but also how good Messi is.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah.
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Rosemary Becky
So.
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Brian Kilmeade
So we'll see how this goes in Australia. So if they pull off a wind, they're through, Jonathan?
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Jonathan Bornstein
I do believe so. I think the result for the other game would have to be, you know, a draw. With a draw from those two, we definitely would be going through already. You know, I think us just has to do their job. They got to win, keep. Keep playing with great momentum and obviously keep playing together. Because that, I think, is what got them the victory in the first game, in the first place.
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Brian Kilmeade
Did you ever play in Seattle?
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Jonathan Bornstein
Not with the national team, but with my club teams, yes.
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Brian Kilmeade
So describe the atmosphere, because I hear it's insane. They really love soccer in Seattle, and that's where the game is today. If they show up 70,000 strong with. With USA supporting the USA, what difference would it make?
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Jonathan Bornstein
No, I think, you know, they always say, like, the 12th man, right? So I think 70,000 strong representing the US as long as we have the majority of the fans in the stadium, as it was kind of in Los Angeles stadium the other night, I think it definitely helps the players to be motivated to go out there and perform well. And it always is hard for Australia to see that when they're walking out on the field 70,000 strong supporting the United States. You know, you have a local kid right there with Christian Roldan. Will he be able to get, you know, time on the field this game? Let's hope so. He plays there as his home. Home matches, obviously they. I think they put grass on top of the turf, so it'll be a little bit different of a. Of a game. But I think, you know, a lot of those players know what they're. What to expect as they step into that stadium.
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Brian Kilmeade
Until the players prefer the. The grass over the turf.
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Jonathan Bornstein
Oh, for sure. I think, you know, it's. First of all, the turf is very tough on your body, so to be running consistently on turf, it's a little bit harder impact, and then grass is just A natural role. And the way they have these fields set up recently, I mean, it's like every player's dream to be able to play on a pitch like that.
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Kimberly Brown
Right.
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Brian Kilmeade
And I think there's going to be a push for the NFL as well as the mls. Can we just play on grass, please? You're paying all this money for players. Can we at least get them on grass? It must be killing the giants in jail to see grass on a field. And they're dying for it. They literally are twisting their knees. Jonathan Borstein, thanks so much. Finally, before you go, what's your prediction? I know what you hope. You want us to win, but what do you predict?
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Jonathan Bornstein
I could see the game being 2 0, potentially like a 3 1. I think the US needs to get an early goal just like they did against Paraguide, to kind of start to open up Australia. If the longer Australia goes 00, I think it favors them a little bit more in the game because that's the result. They were 312 0.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah. Jonathan Borenstein, thanks so much. Appreciate it. All right.
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Jonathan Bornstein
Thank you, Brian.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah. And we'll see. We'll see. We'll be starting if. If it is not ballistic when they name the starter, who will be in there, we'll have to see. So we'll be following that at 3 o'.
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Julian Epstein
Clock.
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Brian Kilmeade
We honor the Anishinaabe, the Council of three Fires, the Ojibwe, the Odawa and the Potawatomi nations. Three nations on that one park who never thought they could live in a park like that. Unbelievable. Valerie Jarrett got $700 a year to get the Obama. Get the Obama library ready. And it was only four years late. So she got four more years to get $700,000 a year. I guess perhaps I don't know, did they cut her off after three? Supposed to be done by 2021. He was out of office in 2016. You know, Trump has to decide whether he wants to start his library before he leaves. It is already planned out. Pretty amazing, right? It's going to be in Miami. It's. They have. I have it all sketched out and I saw the plans and this guy can't get it done. In the meantime, look, I liked a lot of what President Obama said in his speech. He talked about how they, how the Constitution was written in a way in which we could grow into it and reach all the principles and America could grow and make progress. In 1919, women get the vote and obviously 1865, African Americans finally get the freedom they deserved on day one. And then we hear about segregation and overcoming that in the 60s and everything like that. And the terrible compromise in 1850. You put all those things into our story. But he did it in a positive. I needed that when he was in office. But having said that, and a lot of people don't want to hear it. They want reparations. A lot of these, especially these city leaders. But then he's taking shots at Trump. I'm like, what are you doing? Can you just possibly be above politics? You're supposed to be a former president talking about the country. Nixon and Clinton. Nixon is advising Democrats and Republicans after. And I know Trump can be polarizing, too, but he's still president. President. So, you know, the whole cost was supposed to be $300 million. It ended up being over 850 million. They promised a, a, they promised an endowment of 470 million. You know what the endowment is? 1 million. But it gets worse from there. They have contractors who have lost, have gone into bankruptcy because he's not paying them. 1. The Adamson Plumbing Company, whose owner Mike Owen says his firm is by owned, is down $4 million after years of work. The Obama foundation says it paid Lakeside alliance, that Lakeside was responsible for hiring, managing and subcontractors. And the foundation has no outstanding disputed charges with Lakeside and no direct contract relationship with Lakeside subcontracts. But the article notes that the broader project aimed at awarding 50% of subcontract packages to diverse vendors and required 35% of workforce hours, hours from targeted south and west side communities. When you start doing the political correctness when it comes to execution, instead of getting the best people possible, that's how you have cost overruns. So it also says two minority owned subcontractors had to declare Chapter 11 bankruptcy because he didn't pay their bills. You know, you get Bruce Springsteen, you get Bono, you get Oprah. Can someone write a check and make sure at least the work they're doing is paid for? Imagine if Trump. Trump rolled out a library and didn't pay anybody. They'd be hitting the roof. Here's some of those subtle jabs. Cut 29. In the newly independent United States, there will be no kings or lords, no serfs or subjects, but only citizens. Economic disruptions, mass protests, backlash against mass protests. Political conflicts that have shaken the very foundation of our democracy. The good reverend was under no illusions about the perils and obstacles facing the abolitionist cause.
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Julian Epstein
Same spirit that will see America and
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Brian Kilmeade
the world through its present trials. Present trials? What do you mean? The economy. The stock market's up too high, unemployment's too low, too much oil on the market. I don't know. Venezuela, it's no longer communist. Cuba's about to be turned over. You wanted to make sure they stayed communist. As you bring baseball, American baseball to Cuba and you sit with Fidel Castro. I mean, what is the bad time? You're unhappy because of Republicans in office. And Donald Trump is a very unique person. Understood. And he could be challenging and insulting. I understand that. But why are you wasting your time at a time to reflect on you and your career and your family? Why are you sitting there taking shots as if you're running against Donald Trump in next year's election? And why are you taking your free time helping out Mayor Mamdani of New York City? You should be telling him, we don't need a socialist in our party. You will destroy it. So. And by the way, to open up and say, we're on stolen land with dedicating it to Indian tribes that don't exist anymore. Please. We are so over that. We are done with that. I am so glad we're through with that. That. Sharon, you're in Texas. Sharon, what's on your mind? I like to say I like that interchange you had with Julian Epstein.
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Kimberly Brown
And he agreed.
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Brian Kilmeade
Everything he said and you two, y' all were in agreement. And I believe that President Trump had the right instincts in the beginning. When he went in to attack Iran
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Kimberly Brown
for their nuclear capability, he fumbled the
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Brian Kilmeade
ball because he got bad advice. And I think J.D. vance is one of the ones giving bad advice, because that whole stupid. It makes no sense at all.
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Kimberly Brown
And it doesn't agree with any of
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Brian Kilmeade
the reasons we went into Iran in the first place.
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Julian Epstein
And J.D.
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Brian Kilmeade
vance is out there trying to sell his book and boast of himself. Because he fertilized. He fertilized his wife's eggs and he wants to be coronated as the next president of the United States. I do not like J.D.
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Shannon Bream
vance.
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Brian Kilmeade
Well, I think he comes off a likable, knowledgeable and I think a really good politician on a foreign policy. I just don't agree with him. I didn't agree with him when he was running as senator. I didn't agree with him when he was named vice president. It's okay. He isn't, he doesn't probably care if I agree with him or not. It's just not the foreign policy. You give me Marco Rubio any day and it's just a foreign policy I agree with. But I think they're both extremely talented and I just do think he has too much influence and I'm not convinced that he fully understands what matter what the Iranian challenge is. Cheers to America's 250th birthday. Get 20% off your first purchase at foxnewswineshop.com with code FNRADIO 2020. Discount excludes wine club offers and cannot be combined with any other promotion. Expires July 31, 2026. Must be 21 roller to order. Please drink responsibly. From the FOX News radio studios in midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio radio talk show. Brian Kilmeade,
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Kimberly Brown
Everyone.
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Brian Kilmeade
So glad you're there. Brian Kilme, Joe, closing out a wild week. I'm so glad you were part of it. I think about what's happening with the parade in New York City and I know the other the teams in the NBA aren't happy about it, but it is significant. I'm sure you noticed it and the remarkable playoff run. It wrapped up yesterday. And then I watch every sports bar in New York City overcome with different countries and they're obviously wearing the national team jerseys and they're filling up the sports bars, which is interesting because the tickets are so expensive. And that is a story. And it's not our fault, it's FIFA's fault. So what happens is people want to support their team. So it's helping out, I think the bars and restaurants because they'll say, okay, they're playing over there, they're playing five miles away. But I'm going to come over here and feel and feel the game and be what it's like, go to America. And I'm gonna go hang out and have some french fries and start cheering and singing with my team. Shannon Bream is standing by this hour. Michael Dorgan's gonna be with us, too, a Fox News Digital reporter who covered the story about the subcontractors who have been stiffed by the Obama library, some of which have got declared bankruptcy. So before we get to them, let's get to the big three. Number three. Yeah, I think obviously we go into all the games wanting to win the
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Michael Dorgan
games and even if we do win
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Brian Kilmeade
tomorrow, whatever the result is, we still have a third game to play and it won't be taken lightly at all. So, yeah, I think it's more of a job not done. Weston McKinney of Texas Team USA back in action against Australia in a few hours without their best player, perhaps in Christian Pulisic. I still like their chances as the world continues to simply love America. Number two, economic disruptions, mass mass protests, backlash against mass protests, political conflicts that
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Julian Epstein
have shaken the very foundation of our democracy. Same spirit that will see America and
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Brian Kilmeade
the world through its present trials. Present trials? What are you talking about? With unemployment's too low, gas, the price of oil is too low, President Obama gets his library. It's over budget, four years late. And sometime he took some time to take shots at Trump. Why? Number one, we believe international waterways should be free of tolls. And that's been our position. That's what you see, of course, in the 60 days of the MoU. And when you say it leaves it open, it doesn't really leave it open except in the sense that, of course, the final negotiation is going to set the terms of what comes afterwards.
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Julian Epstein
Right.
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Brian Kilmeade
Failure to launch a 60 day sprint to a permanent peace deal is not happening. And right now it looks like the Iranians have reclosed the strait. I'll try to explain why, but it's the Iranians. Iraq, Both blockades have broken up until this one reconvened. How much more are we going to take, really? We have our military there. What are we doing? And I love the Supreme Leader. I'll just paraphrase what he said. He said Donald Trump begged for the cease fire and he used his leverage to get it. Hey, clown, you don't use leverage if you're begging for a cease fire. You have no leverage if you're begging.
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Shannon Bream
Nagging.
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Brian Kilmeade
So the supreme leader might not be alive. He's likely alive. But he says he gave in because he trusts the president, his president, to negotiate with us for 60 days. My question is, how big is the Trump team? Put the technocrats behind because you can't leave the vice president in Switzerland if the Iranians ever Show up for 60 days so who's going to run work out the details? Shannon Bream joins us now. Shannon, do you know what the. Who makes up the Trump team outside the three? I mean, you got to feel as though they got to be. There's got to be technocrats out there to know nuclear and no history.
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Shannon Bream
Yeah. And we've been hearing about them tapping into some of those resources and folks, I mean, obviously they already have them within the administration, but possibly reaching out to some others who would have more to say. But, you know, we were all kind of surprised last night when, you know, we're following the pool reports. We know that the Vice President is at Joint Base Andrews, ready to go. And then we see the email, he's not going. And that. Okay, that starts to raise a lot of questions. There's no way they're going to send him over there to sit there, like you said, and just kind of cool his heels in Switzerland while we're waiting for everybody to show up. It's just not going to happen. So, you know, Iranian officials this morning saying, all right, you got, you know, Israel and Hezbollah at this ceasefire. So plans are coming together for the talks in Switzerland over the Iran deal, but we don't have a date.
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Brian Kilmeade
So the Supreme Leader said, based on the commitment given to me by my honorable president, acting in his capacity as chairman, Chairman of the Council, whatever, on behalf of himself and the other members, to safeguard the knights, the rights of the Iranian nation and the axis of resistance. Actually, they call themselves the axis of resistance. That's great. His explicit acceptance of responsibility for doing so. I authorize it because the President's responsible. I'll authorize it. But they also are saying we need Israel to get out of Lebanon. Shannon, Israel wasn't in negotiations. They're only in Lebanon because Hezbollah is in Lebanon. So this is. This could stop before it starts.
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Shannon Bream
It really could. I mean, Hezbollah is an Iranian proxy. They have killed many, many people. They are a terrorist organization. And Israel rightly says we have a right to defend ourselves, which the Trump administration fully acknowledges and endorses. But they say they're not moving out of the area. They have on just every about, on every one of their borders, groups that say Israel does not have a right to exist. They're in a very tough neighborhood. So. So there's definitely some daylight between Bibi and President Trump. I mean, clearly, we've seen a little bit of tension there. The President thinks they're overreacting when they respond to some of these incoming and other issues with Hezbollah. And he wants them to rein it in a little bit until he can get his deal done. But there's so many of us who think that Iran is just sort of dragging the US along anyway. They're just about buying time. And that's coming from people who are fans of President Trump. I mean, his own own supporters believe that is many of them believe that's what's happening.
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Brian Kilmeade
So the Iranians, I read the institute study of war. If you want to know what's going on in any of these conflicts, I recommend everyone do that. And this is what I see. I see it in the 14 points and I see it here. The Iranian officials continue to signal that the regime will charge fees in the long term for vessels that want to transit the strait, which is part of the broader Iranian effort to maintain long term control of the straight. There's no way we'll agree to that. There's no way we should agree to that.
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Shannon Bream
Which again gets you to can we even do a deal with them or is this just a gigantic waste of time? Is the president trying to say to his critics, yes, I'm trying to solve this diplomatically, but ultimately does it end up again in kinetic action? I mean, they have no navy, their air force, you know, their missile launchers, the majority of that stuff is gone. Now. They do still have missile capabilities. And the fact is they want to maintain that. And there was some conversation obviously from President Trump, from the vice presidency, saying, well, people in that region are going to want defensive weapons and we can't tell them what to do on that front. But the fact is we now know their ballistic missiles can reach to places like London and Rome and Paris. So those kinds of things have to be part of a deal. But you know, Iran's made a lot of promises on paper before that they have not kept. And they continue to chant death to America and death to Israel. So a lot of people think that this negotiating is just a waste of time.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah. You said the president wants to get, have the economy reconfigure itself, reignite itself itself and get you to November, but this is going to get you till August. So then they're going to be another time. And you know, who knows the calendar, the Iranians. So they decide to blow up this deal and say we're charging in the strait. They know the president, the economy is going to suffer, oil is going to go up and the president will have his, his party will pay the price. But you mentioned allies that are critical of this deal. Senator ted Cruz cut 17. The idea that we would have $300 billion for Iran. The most catastrophic foreign policy decision that Joe Biden, Kamala Harris made was to flow $100 billion to Iran. That money funded terrorism across the globe. In a very real sense, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris's billions that they sent to Iran funded October 7th and the horrific atrocities that that occurred on that day. If we give billions of dollars to Iran, that money will be used tomorrow, murder Americans. And so I don't believe we should do that. And the idea that, that we would have effectively a Marshall Plan for Iran and come in and rebuild Iran after they've been the leading state sponsor of terrorism for 47 years, they've murdered nearly a thousand Americans. I don't think that makes any sense. It doesn't make any sense. And what he's doing, too, is, is. It's really. He knows the vice President did this deal. And I'm thinking Ted Cruz is running for president, too. Not only do I believe he believes every word he said, but I believe he's also saying, this is the beginning of letting you know that in 2028, I'm going to run and it's going to be different from JD Vance on foreign policy. They are very different.
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Shannon Bream
They are. They are. And for people, just a reminder, if you were not alive then or don't remember, in 2016, it came down to President Trump and Senator Cruz. They were the last two states. So it's not out of the realm of possibility that Cruz knows how to run a presidential campaign and ran a really strong one back in 2016. Obviously, the world has changed a lot since then, but there is daylight between the way that Cruz and Vance see the world and see these foreign entanglements and, you know, the president and how it all moves forward. So there have been very few Republican critics publicly. He's definitely one of them. But there are others who were starting to come out of the woodwork, because the number one criticism that Republicans had of the JCPOA was that it allowed these pallets of cash to flow back to Iran, who funded its proxies, who killed people all over the globe by doing that. The question is, why would it be okay under this deal? Now, the vice President said yesterday, they do not get it unless they perform in very specific ways. But if we are taking away our naval blockade and they are able to ship out their oil and fuel products and start to make money off of that, that is allowing money to flow back to them, which has been obviously one of Israel's biggest concerns and critiques. Of the deal.
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Brian Kilmeade
So it's supposed to be the Arab world that provides the $300 billion. Imagine they came out of the meeting they had with Qatar. So if they have it, do we control it? If it stays in a so called Arab fund, Qatar's not going to say, make sure you build a sewer system. They're going to need solar panels for the stadium you're building. You know, it's not going to happen. They'll say, give me the money or else I'll bomb you again like I did before. And this time the US will not be there poised to be ready to fight and protect you. So if you have a $300 billion fund in our account, Shannon, I'm not convinced we're going to be able to control it now. The lifting of sanctions right away to me is a big deal. Yeah, they were sneaking out oil and Joe Biden did look the other way, but Trump wasn't cut 8. The choke point on Iranian oil was never the sanctions. We didn't see that as a major concession to the Iranians. Frankly, the Iranians didn't see that as a concession to them because the what prevented them from selling oil. Oil was not the sanctions. They were selling plenty of oil without any discount because the sanctions were just fundamentally ineffective at that point. What the sanctions did do is move the Iranian financial system to sort of the shadow banking system.
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Julian Epstein
Wow.
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Brian Kilmeade
So I think that he's soft pedaling a lot of this. And someone told me the first day that he doesn't think that Trump is being told the truth by his negotiators. And I think by now Everybody knows the 14 points.
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Shannon Bream
We do know the 14 points, but man, they leave a lot of things undecided and undetailed. Like you said, the $300 billion, who's controlling that? Will there be strict guidelines and protocols on that? If you say that the sanctions weren't that big of a deal, Republicans were certainly criticizing the waivers that Biden gave on those sanctions every time he did that. So they must have felt like there was some impact that was, you know, negative for the Iranians when those sanctions were in place. So the thing is, there's been so much criticism of the JC POA that Republicans who are gonna defend this deal have to talk about how it's different. And the Vice President did lay out what he said were differentiations between the two deals. But for a lot of people, you hear any kind of relief for Iran instead of kind of keeping a neck on their boot of their economy at this point just sounds like, why are we giving up leverage? And if this country knows that whenever they get cranky or don't like something we're doing or Israel's doing, that they now have the power to cripple everyone by shutting down the strait, why would you give them any ability to resume what they're doing?
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Brian Kilmeade
Know it's all about saving the economy. And the president made that clear in an honest statement the other day. He said, I'm afraid of a global depression. But the one thing we do, if you take kinetic action and further degrade them for two weeks, maybe they're. They're forced to open up the strait and we stop listening to the Gulf states who tell us to stop bombing. Meanwhile, yesterday, I couldn't find you because President Obama was opening up his library. I know you were glued to the television, busy. Yes. Here's a little of those remarks. Remarks. And keep in mind, he's taken subtle shots at Trump and I don't know why. Cut 29. In the newly independent United States, there will be no kings or lords, no serfs or subjects, but only citizens. Economic disruptions, mass protests, backlash against mass protests. Political conflicts that have shaken the very
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Julian Epstein
fact foundation of our democracy.
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Brian Kilmeade
The good reverend was under no illusions about the perils and obstacles facing the abolitionist cause. Same spirit that will see America and the world through its present trials. So I just don't know why it was necessary. So a lot of his speech was pretty cool where he talked about, you know, we weren't a perfect country in the beginning, but our, but our, our Constitution allowed us to grow into it and be the country we are today. Thought, okay, that's nice, that's pretty cool. He could have went the other direction. And then he just starts taking shots at Trump. Michelle taking shots at Trump. And I'm thinking, it's your library. This is your day. You didn't invite him. He didn't want to come. You're over budget four years late. Focus on your accomplishments. I don't know anybody that's playing politics eight years out of office like he does us.
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Shannon Bream
How fun would it have been if President Trump did show up, if he got invited? That would have been so awkward and crazy, right? Those two. Obviously you don't get along. I mean, there was bipartisanship. We saw the Bushes were there. And so, yeah, you want a presidential library to be that kind of thing. Let's talk about where the country is good and where we've worked together. And for somebody who wants to talk about, you know, authoritarians and serfs and all that kind of stuff. President Obama, like most presidents, was a big fan of executive action. Remember he said, if I can't get things done, I've got a pen and a paper and he used it. I mean, executive power is something that all presidents like to use. And so I don't know that you can single out President Trump for that. But yeah, you hope it's a day that's going to be uplifting.
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Brian Kilmeade
So what's going.
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Shannon Bream
I don't know if I'm a big fan of the architecture, but to each his own, right?
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Brian Kilmeade
A tall, lumpy skyscraper, I'm not really sure. He says a bunch of hands coming together. So we'll see what happens. Shannon, your thoughts about your Sunday show?
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Shannon Bream
Well, we are going live from the US Supreme Court this Sunday because over the next week we get all the biggies from the court that we're waiting on. So birthright citizenship and biological born males and trans, you know, athletes in female sports. How many days after Election Day can you keep counting ballots? I mean, there's a lot of good stuff we're still waiting on. So we'll preview all of that for you. Senator Mike Lee is with us, a former Supreme Court clerk himself. He can give us some inside scoop. And Congress Ro Khanna, a Democrat who thinks we need to pack the U.S. supreme Court. So we've got a Trump administration official that we should be able to announce shortly, but we'll be able to speak to the Iran situation. And also Danny Denone from the Israeli side of this conversation. Very interesting to get their input. I'm interested to hear his response to Vice President Vance yesterday.
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Brian Kilmeade
Absolutely. I hope he does stand up. But he's got to be diplomatic because he doesn't want to make things worse. But I thought that was.
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Shannon Bream
What about your ship? What am I gonna see?
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Brian Kilmeade
We have Mike Rogers on, you know, the best chance to flip a seat might be in Michigan. He's gonna be with us. It'll be great. Kimberly Strassel is gonna lead us off. That'll be fun. And then we are also gonna have Chris Ruffo joining us. The great Jimmy Fail is gonna be with us. And Ainsley Earhart has agreed to appear. And unless she shows that temper of hers and storms off, she'll have the whole segment to herself. But I can't believe, listen, it doesn't
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Shannon Bream
happen a lot, but when it flashes, oh, it's not going to be in the way.
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Brian Kilmeade
She is a tornado of anger.
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Shannon Bream
It's frightening.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah.
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Shannon Bream
By the way, go you usa.
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Brian Kilmeade
Go usa. Three o' clock today.
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Shannon Bream
Time to sweep the leg. Sweep that Australian leg. Do it.
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Brian Kilmeade
Absolutely. I know your husband's a big soccer fan.
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Shannon Bream
Soon sh like crazy.
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Brian Kilmeade
All right. And I'm predicting a victory and I'm predicting more than 16 million will watch
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Shannon Bream
Jana Breen's party at the end of your show.
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Rosemary Becky
Bye.
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Brian Kilmeade
Not yet. Back in a moment. Don't go anywhere. Brian Kilmeade will be right back. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmeade. So you talk about being patriotic. That's what I think you're going to get in Pensacola, Florida, July 11 and of course, in October. I'll be in Clearwater, Florida. Also be in in the Westbury Music Fair over Long island and be in Red Ranks, Red Bank, New Jersey. I'll be over there. Go back visiting that fantastic theater. Theater. I'll be in St. Louis, Missouri, and that'll about wrap. And Jacksonville, of course, over at the Florida theater. So I'm just going to be doing history, liberty. And last, but I have a book coming out calling United the States the Six Crucial Moments that Forge the American Miracle. I think you'll love it. You'll see how we could have went either way as a country almost been destroyed, but instead we came out better and why I think it happened. And I do it in a readable, understandable way, but I'll bring it to life on stage. If you're into patriotism, motivation and inspiration, I think you'll love it. Just go to briankilmead.com it's streamed on FOX Nation, too, but it's better to be there live and VIP opportunities. I can meet with you before the show, Brian. Kill Me show, The talk show that's getting you talking your way with Brian Kilmeade. It's over about a hundred million dollars probably that estimatedly probably owed to contractors on this project. One contractor may be anywhere from 40 to 50 million dollars. Another contractor told me they're old $100,000. Another one told me they owe 4 million dollars. So we have over 10 contractors that are being hurt and crippled by this particular project. So that is Omar Sharif. He is the president of the African American Contractors association and he's commenting on how much they're owed from the Obama library bill that was unveiled yesterday. That was four years late and way over budget, almost double the budget they intended for 300 billion. 300 million. It's up over 850 million. Michael Dorgan joins us now. He's been on this story. FOX News digital reporter Michael Great to See you.
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Michael Dorgan
Thanks for having me, Brian. Yeah. And I think that, I think the final bill is going to go well over $1 billion. That 850 million figure has been there since 2021 and we haven't got an updated figure since.
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Brian Kilmeade
So what's the delay?
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Michael Dorgan
I spoke to several subcontractors I was out at. I was in Chicago two weeks ago and they told me that the place, the work site was totally chaotic. There was just over regulation. Too many people there asking them to do too many things that didn't. That weren't in line with specifications. And, and a two year job turned into a five year job for a lot of these subcontractors. And a lot of them now face financial ruin. A lot of them are owed millions of dollars for this project.
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Brian Kilmeade
And a lot of them are minorities, right?
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Michael Dorgan
Yeah, several. You had Omar Sharif on there. I spoke to Omar when I was outside the center and he's an advocate for these black owned subcontractors and they're afraid to speak out. A lot of them have signed non disclosure agreements so they can't go public. They can't reveal any documentation. I spoke to one, he didn't want to go public. He said he's owed two and a half million dol and he said he would be happy to walk away with $1 million. But his business has been around for 40 years. He feels he's financially crushed. And you know we found out with several other subcontractors, well here's more.
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Brian Kilmeade
Cut 38. We thought it would be an excellent project for them to work on but we find out it's a very shameful project for them because we have not gotten paid and they should pay us as they celebrate with a celebrities today. And they had Bruce Springsteen there, they had Bono there, they had Oprah there. Tom Hanks who is the who of celebrities who have had nothing to do because Joe Biden was basically a corpse when he was in the Oval Office. And now this is the time to show up and look back at his eight years. What else do you think was noteworthy about the event?
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Michael Dorgan
A lot of billionaires there yesterday, Brian.
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Brian Kilmeade
They could pay all these guys.
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Michael Dorgan
Yeah, yeah. And it's the little guy that's getting crushed. You know this was supposed to uplift the minority community, the local contractors. What struck me yesterday was some of the framing about what the center is going to be. It's been promoted since day one as a presidential library. It is not a presidential library. Obama's documents will not be there. They're going to be off site. You're going to have the fortified structure, which is the museum. That's going to have, that's going to be a museum, but it's also going to be the home of the Obama Foundation. And the Obama foundation is what pushesthat keeps Obama's influence going. And that's significant because this site, this is public land. This is Jackson park, this is the central.
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Brian Kilmeade
That's a controversy too, isn't it?
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Michael Dorgan
That went. Several court cases were filed against this that violated what's called the public trust doctrine that public spaces must be used for public purposes. And what we have here is Obama got this land, 19.3 acres, massive site for $10 for 99 years. And it was supposed to be a presidential library. And it sort of evolved into a presidential state center.
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Brian Kilmeade
And yet he still doesn't have enough money to pay the people.
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Michael Dorgan
Doesn't have enough money to pay the people. And he also got the public infrastructure built around the center paid for the, paid for by the city, the taxpayer, the Chicago taxpayer, and the Illinois taxpayer.
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Brian Kilmeade
So a lot of people feel, and you were in the neighborhood, that if you upgrade the neighborhood, you push a lot of people out. Did people get pushed out?
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Michael Dorgan
A lot of people are telling me that their rent is going up and a lot of Airbnbs are bringing up property prices, property taxes. I'm not sure if anyone has been pushed out yet, but some people, they're looking to get compensated. They're looking for $4 million spread across the neighborhood for gentrification purposes. And there's like hotels being planned to build there. So this is a working class community that is going to be at some stage out priced.
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Brian Kilmeade
And the reason why a lot of these people are coming up is because they sign an NDA, they're not allowed to talk, they're afraid of getting sued even though they're short and they're about to go bankrupt. Here's Dr. Aliyah Israel, cut 40. I don't mean no harm. It's nothing personal. It's business. You know, we love Obama. We helped to get him elected. We loved him before the nation even knew about him. But if people are misusing his name now, I'm not saying he knows about it, but if people are misusing his name, then we have to come and say what justice for the Obama builders. People have put their lives on the line just to be a part of, of history. So he was willing to speak out.
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Michael Dorgan
Why he's not directly related, related to the build. It's the subcontractors are Afraid to speak out. It's a Democratic stronghold, as you know, and Obama was the first black president. And if they speak out, they're going to violate these NDAs. They've all been muzzled. And when I went down there, there was a wall of silence. You could feel it there. No one would want to talk. Talk to you. Omar rang me at the last minute on a Friday wanting to do an interview, that it was one of the subcontractors put me in touch with him. They're all afraid to speak out.
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Brian Kilmeade
So what is your impression of where this is going? But this is going to take it on the chin. I mean, can't they see a lawyer and say, look, I have to be able to fight back, I have to be able to get paid. And if that becomes public, I'm not some violation of NDA, I take you to court and I have an NDA, you still rob me of my 4 million.
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Michael Dorgan
See, they're. They're in a hole because they're all money. And litigating against this is going to cost him money as well. So that's why the subcontract that I spoke to you about was willing to take $1 million. So he's willing to take a 1.5 million hit on the job.
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Brian Kilmeade
Has President Obama been confronted on this? Any of the Obama?
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Michael Dorgan
Not yet. We just broke the story yesterday. I've been on it for a while, but we just broke the story yesterday because these guys only started to speak out recently because they felt if the center gets opened, they think now it's going to be harder for them to get paid once the doors open.
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Brian Kilmeade
What was the delay?
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Michael Dorgan
We could only speculate. So what was happening was a lot of change. Orders were happening. Mike Owen, who I spoke to, he's a plumbing contractor. He's 4 million in the red. He had built this stormwater system at the center. It runs next to a lagoon, so it could see a lot of flooding. He put the system in. An architect or an engineer came back to him and said, you did it wrong. You weren't following code. Mike said, he did follow code, but he'll fix it anyway. So he fixed it, $900,000 a cost. And he went the inspector and the inspector said, the way you did it the first time was correct. And he went away and fixed it on instruction. And now he still can't get paid that $900,000, which he contacted me about nearly 18 months ago.
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Brian Kilmeade
So what was it? Were you there yesterday?
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Michael Dorgan
Wasn't there yesterday. I was there last week.
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Brian Kilmeade
So would you project that? It's going to be a big tourist attraction.
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Michael Dorgan
I think I spoke to people outside last week, and of course, they're Democrats. They're very happy with it. You know, it promotes Obama's legacy. Have you.
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Brian Kilmeade
You walked it?
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Michael Dorgan
I walked it, yeah. But I didn't get into the museum. It was. They had soft opening events two weeks ago. It's a nice, expansive place. You can walk out there. It's kind of parkland, but the building itself is. Is. It's controversial, let's say the least. The museum, it's a big granite concrete structure, and it's just hard. It sticks out. It. You know, it's not. If you compare with President Trump's rental for his, it's going to be a big shiny tower like the one World Trade center down in Miami, complete. So I guess it's whatever taste buds you had, but it wouldn't be my cup of tea for sure.
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Brian Kilmeade
So he took shots. Yes. He's a great speaker. Michelle did a great job. And it was just time for your family and friends, I thought, and your supporter, especially the people that put you in office. But he didn't waste any time going after trump. Listen. Cut 29. In the newly independent United States, there will be no kings or lords, no serfs or subjects, but only citizens. Economic disruptions, mass protests, backlash against mass protests, political conflicts that have shaken the
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Julian Epstein
very foundation of our democracy.
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Brian Kilmeade
The good reverend was under no illusions about the perils and obstacles facing the abolitionist cause. The same spirit that will see America and the world through its present trials. So is there any of your takeaway from that?
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Michael Dorgan
Listen to that. It's very politically charged. Yeah, yeah, it's very politically. And this, again, this goes back to the initial controversy. It's public land, supposed to be for public use, and now it's been run by a private foundation. Obama's foundation, nara, which oversees all the presidential libraries, won't be there. So Obama has got this plot of land that he can push his own influence, his own ideology on. And just to let you know, this is what he said yesterday for while our work is nonpartisan, we are not values neutral. We have a point of view. So what's he gonna be pushing at this foundation, at this center, for the next couple of years? It's going to promote himself, his influence. Is Michelle gonna run for office? Is this gonna be a headquarters for the Obama Foundation?
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Brian Kilmeade
Well, I have to say. So the other big story that you're working on is the DSA and the infiltration of this DSA into the democratic cause. Who's financing this move? There's nothing attractive about socialism, but yet now it is beginning to sell and they're beginning to make progress on the left.
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Michael Dorgan
Yeah. So we've, we at Fox News Digital have been doing some deep investigations into this, this money network or what it's called, it says foreign malign influence that's coming from China. Azra Nomani, who's our senior investigations editor, has done Trojan work on all this for the last couple of years. Really. And she was able to piece together over 700 nonprofit groups that are funding all these left wing protests. We've been out at these left wing protests. There's all these various nonprofits there. And it's all being funneled, a lot of it is being funneled from an American tycoon who lives in China. His name is Neville Roy Singham and he's been funding, he's a billionaire and he's been funding a lot of these left wing groups.
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Brian Kilmeade
Not in Hong Kong.
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Michael Dorgan
No, Shanghai.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah. Shanghai.
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Michael Dorgan
Yeah.
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Brian Kilmeade
So this is pretty amazing. And they say that he's real. Well, he's really thought this us through and it's hard for us to get to him. You can't have a foreign entity paying for an American political system. That's what, that's what Code Blue is being investigated for, taking foreign money. So why is the DSA allowed to take foreign money whereas had not been found out yet.
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Michael Dorgan
I think, I think federal authority authorities are looking into this and he's on their radar. But it's, I think it's a matter of time, but we could see some action fairly soon.
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Brian Kilmeade
All right, we'll be able to follow that on FOX Digital.
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Michael Dorgan
Fox News Digital, yeah.
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Brian Kilmeade
All right, Michael Dorgan, great work on the true story behind the Obama library. They can't do it anything without controversy. You can find it on FOX News Digital. Thanks, Michael.
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Michael Dorgan
Thanks, Ryan.
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Brian Kilmeade
Back in a moment. It's Brian Kilmeade. He's so busy he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Kill Mead. Sponsored by Prevagen. Prevagen made for your brain.
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Julian Epstein
And I have to tell you something,
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Brian Kilmeade
I'm begging FIFA to change the position of the photographers in the national anthem
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Julian Epstein
because I could not see my team
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Brian Kilmeade
in the national anthem. And I was waiting for this moment. This was a very, very special moment today. And I was standing in front of a wall of 50 photographers half a meter away and I could not see one single player.
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Julian Epstein
And it ruined a little bit my experience today.
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Brian Kilmeade
Good for him. I think he's absolutely right. How close do those cameras need to be? I mean, look at these cameras. They're like the idea, like isn't the idea of those long lenses that you can do it from a long way away? Also, I don't really, really know
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Shannon Bream
which,
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Brian Kilmeade
which news outlet is just clamoring for a photo of England's backroom staff. This is not fair to Thomas Tuchel at all. I understand that. But I cannot listen to a German talk about anything without it feeling sinister. So that is James Cordy's got his late night show on Fox. Talking about some of the complaints that people are having. Here's more from James. Corey Gordon. He had some fun about the Canada's coach singing the national anthem. Cut 48. He's, he's an American. This allowed today, Canada's American born manager Jesse Marsh to be with his team and boy did he go all in on O Canada. I don't know how I feel about it. I don't know how I feel about it. I don't. I absolutely hate it. I hate it so much it makes. I like, listen, I'm, I feel like I'm a pretty liberal level headed guy, but when I see that, I'm like, if you don't like it, brother, there's the door. You stay up in Canada. I eventually has the same, like, he's from Wisconsin. You got to take whatever job you get. He didn't get the US Job. I understand that. But him singing oh Canada with that much energy and the gusto of it. The gusto that has the same energy as like when your dad orders like an overly correct Spanish at a Mexican restaurant. Yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right. That is absolutely right. He's like, I will have the.
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Michael Dorgan
Yeah.
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Julian Epstein
And also, I don't know, would anybody
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Brian Kilmeade
else want to get some guacamole? So they're having some fun at late night. It was just a great idea to sign him and then end the show. We find some of the quirky things. He also went out to us practice. They seemed to like that he was around. The other thing was there was a little bit of a rivalry here. Mandami, who's just a smiling politician, to me he's lethal because he looks so friendly. Those people the most dangerous. When you're fiery, at least you know where the people are coming from. When you're angry, like Hasan Piker, at least you know, Mondame comes off benign and he's anything but. Now with the Knick game, he actually tortured the Knicks owners by canceling the Screening sites where you can watch on the street and allow the fans to get together outside the stadium as they made in this remarkable playoff run. And then they blame Dolan for canceling it. So people are mad at him. He was not canceling it. Also, the Secret Service told me they're not the one who set up the abusive perimeter when the president came to town. They said this went way beyond. And it was the NYPD and it was the city. So when it was time to do the march and the parade down the Canyon of Heroes, Mondame gets up there and speaks for 20 minutes. James Dolan, not the most eloquent guy, but he makes his point. Cut 49. Thank you for waiting 53 years. Although I have to say, when I look out over the Knick fans here, you all don't look older than 53 years. Some of you weren't waiting 53. You weren't born yet.
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Michael Dorgan
But we're very, very happy to have
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Brian Kilmeade
brought you a championship. I'm very proud of our team. Look, I don't need your vote. The. I don't need to quote to you, right. The. About what happened here and because if you're real Knick fans, you know it already. So thank you for supporting our team. Yeah. Because Mayor Mondame, I'm not going to play it, but gave this speech outlining what happened as if he memorized a paragraph about what the Knicks went through. He is convinced. James Dolan, that Mondami is not even a real Knick fan. Here's Jalen Brunson, the new megastar that'll live in infamy in New York and never buy a dinner here again. 51. There's a lot of people who have a lot of opinions,
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Julian Epstein
but when you
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Brian Kilmeade
prove them wrong, you really don't. You don't have to say to them, they don't deserve it.
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Julian Epstein
They don't.
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Brian Kilmeade
They don't deserve it.
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Julian Epstein
Appreciate y'.
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Brian Kilmeade
All.
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Julian Epstein
Thank you.
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Brian Kilmeade
And he doesn't. And there's one thing they pointed out, too. Mike Vacaro, who's been on our show, said the Knicks lost a heartbreaker last year. They shook everybody's hand in Indiana. The Knicks lost a year before. Before, I think it was against Detroit. They shook everyone's hand. After you stick around, you do it. And for the San Antonio spurs, just to walk off the court when they lost in five games, I like their heart was broken on a bad call in Game 7, or there was a. They thought the Knicks were playing dirty. They weren't just bad sportsmanship kids watch that they should really apologize. Their coach stuck around, shook everybody's hand. Brunson the minute he won, he didn't go to his dad. He went to the other teams. Coach. That's class. I think that mad this stuff matters a lot. I do. Meanwhile, coming up on ONE nation. I think you're going to love the show. Kimberly Strassel is going to be with us. We got Chris Ruffo is going to be here. I want to get Kimberly Strassel's take on this foreign policy decision as well as in the revival of the economy under, under, under Donald Trump, who's now the Republicans are getting a breath of fresh air and some light in the polls. We'll see that. I'm also going to have Jimmy Failer on breaking down the media moments that really matter. Ainsley Earhart. Earhart's going to be in studio. If Mike Rogers can flip that seat in Michigan, he can help keep the Senate in Republican hands. I'll get the exclusive story. And also that he was a former FBI agent. Got to get his take on the UFC plot. All Saturday night at 10 o', clock, Sunday night, 10 o' clock.