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Kilmeade: Trump "Gave Away Too Much Upfront" to Terrorist State Iran
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The Brian Kilmeade Show 06-18-2026
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Brian Kilmeade
From high atop FOX News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division, it's Brian Kilmeade. Welcome, everybody, back to the show. We're ready for action today and there's a lot going on, especially in the city that I'm in. They are celebrating a championship for the first time in 53 years. The New York Knicks 4 million expected to show up. And I think everybody, plus they're turning people away from the city. At least you can get on the parade route as the New York Knicks really shocked the world by winning a championship. They knew they were contenders actually as a three seed, supposed to go deep. But not many people thought we'd see a playoff run, an epic run like that. And they've accepted an invitation to the White House. I think they're going to be the first NBA champion to go to the White House since Donald Trump's two terms. So that will be impressive. Charlie Hertz in the studio. Senator Tommy Tuberville is going to be here and the senator wants to be the next governor of Alabama. We'll talk about that. So let's get to the big three. Number three, take the random folks I met in Tennessee. I was standing outside an Arby's. Then they pointed me to a local barbecue place and I ended up having one of the best meals of my life. That is the U.S. aina. And I think that's what the World cup is showing a lot of Europeans. The headlines will show you a country, but Americans will show you America.
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
Wow.
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Brian Kilmeade
World cup mania hot on and off the field. The world sees the real America and loves it. The players provide incredible drama. And England winning Wednesday 42 over Croatia. And as the US gets set for game two against Australia, which will not be easy, could they be missing, could they be missing their best player? We'll discuss it. Number two, Well, I think we're going to continue to see those oil prices come down and not just the futures prices. You're going to see the price that refineries are having to pay to get product in the door right now. Those prices are going to come down in the weeks and months ahead. So the market's up 230points and oil barrel per oil is down under $4. The economy beginning to boom. The markets soar, interest rates stay flat. All of this and how it relates to the midterms.
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Charlie Hurt
Number one, it's a memorandum of understanding. If it doesn't get done in 60 days, that's all right. We go back to bombing. You know, I don't want to do that because it's so good, but we might have to because we're never going to let them have a nuclear weapon.
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Brian Kilmeade
Well, there's more to it than that. Our Iran MOU memo of understanding, not a okay, we look at the 14 points that bring us to this 60 day window to get a comprehensive deal done with the terror state. We bring you every angle and there's a lot. And basically we say this, they say they're not going to get a nuclear weapon, but they've always said that. They even denied that they're trying to get a nuclear weapon. They are going to get the straight open. That's going to be good. We're going to stop our blockade. That's going to be easy. And then the hard stuff happens. What can we expect them to do now that they're able to sell their oil right away and we release banking restrictions and Hezbollah has already been awarded the according to Reuters, that financing is coming their direction. What does Hezbollah do? They live to attack Israel. Who is going to be told to get out of Lebanon, which is not going to happen. Charlie hurt, FOX AND FRIENDS WEEKEND Joe, we're getting this all in real, real time. The president signed it physically yesterday. It's going to be official today.
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
Right.
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Brian Kilmeade
And we also know the vice president's going to be doing his he's going to be taking over for Caroline Levitt today. He's going to be playing the role as press secretary. What do you think?
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Victor Davis Hanson
So this is, this is a timeout for sure. And as you pointed out earlier this morning, it makes it very, very difficult, even more difficult than it was a week ago for bombing to begin again, if that's what President Trump wants to do. But I think that the timeout kind of works to both the advantage of both sides. Obviously, you go through a lot of good arguments for why the timeout goes to the advantage of Iran. But obviously, President Trump also has real domestic issues that he's got to be concerned about. I think that, you know, 60 days down the line, we'll be in the midst of, you know, at the very height of the midterm elections. Those are important. Donald Trump is a realist. He's always been a political realist. I think that after the election, if Iran is still behaving the way they were behaving before, I think that you're looking at a very different situation. President Trump has demonstrated one thing and that is that he is willing to actually confront these people. Obviously, you know, a lot of and you know, you bring up the issue of Lebanon and the Hezbollah, which has completely, you know, I mean, obviously, the civil war there is over, but they're basically. It's basically war in Lebanon right now with Hezbollah versus the Lebanese government. You know, if you're in favor of ending the forever wars, as I am, I think you're probably never gonna end the forever wars as long as you have, you know, proxies like Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis committing mass terror in places like Lebanon and firing on.
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Brian Kilmeade
So here, yeah, here's what Iran. Here's what the President said to your point about looks, and if they start breaking the rules, here's what we'll do. Cut one.
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Charlie Hurt
It's a memorandum of understanding. If it doesn't get done in 60 days, that's all right, we go back to bombing. You know, I don't want to do that because it's so good, but we might have to, because we're never going to let them have a nuclear weapon. But they've agreed not to, and you'll see that very clearly in the agreement.
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Brian Kilmeade
So it's done by Steve Witkoff, Jared Kushner, and led really by the Vice president. And I just feel as though the President gave away too much up front. The fact that they can sell oil right away at full market rates, something they haven't done in 20 years and they don't deserve to do. There's one thing that's pretty consistent, is they never lived up to anything they said. And the President does have credibility where no other president has. He's willing to take the fight to them. But the other thing is, the President came out and said something that really makes no sense. And he said this about a nuclear energy cut for.
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Charlie Hurt
Well, I've said to them always, I say, look, you have probably the third largest oil reserves in the world. What the hell do you need nuclear for? You need nuclear for some electricity. So. So I've always felt that way. So we've been pretty tough in that. You know, it's also. It is a little hard, though, when you say that somebody wants it, Other people have it, other adjoining states have it, and you're not letting them have it for purposes of electricity and things like that. So it was a little tough. You have to use a little common sense.
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Brian Kilmeade
Well, no, no, the common sense is you just. You cannot enrich uranium in country. Uae, Qatar, Kuwait. They don't enrich uranium in the country. They get it delivered in fuel rods and other things. That's a huge difference.
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Charlie Hurt
Yeah.
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Victor Davis Hanson
And, of course, let's not forget I think that, you know, earlier, a couple of months ago, you actually had the administration offering Iran to provide them with, with electricity, you know, nuclear electricity, that would not allow them to be refining their own uranium on a domestic. For domestic purposes. So what exactly he meant right there, I'm not really sure about that.
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Brian Kilmeade
Right.
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Victor Davis Hanson
But, but again, you know, this is why we have. This is why, you know, people say, you know, try to compare this to the Obama thing, or they could try to compare it to Biden negotiations. I don't see any comparison whatsoever. And one of the big reasons for that is that, like you just said a second ago, you know, the reason we vote for the person that we like is because you have faith in that person. And I have infinitely more faith in President Trump to hold the line and represent America's interests than I do. Joe Biden or Barack Obama? Barack Obama. I honestly believe that Barack Obama and Joe Biden were gladly willing to sell out all of America's priorities. And there is a real tension here. Obviously, you have American interests in the interests of the civilized world, but you also have domestic priorities that matter a lot to people. And if you can't convince the American people that this is a war that's worth paying $6 a gallon, then that's
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Brian Kilmeade
why, in the end, winning is important. But there's no way, I think that if he got to this point, he's going to bomb in August. In August. He's gonna wait till after November.
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Victor Davis Hanson
No, no, you're exactly right about that. But think about this, Brian. Think about if, you know, this is the second midterm, the midterms of the second term of a presidency. Those are bloodbaths for the party in power. Donald Trump is in the second midterm, the midterms of his second term. And it's not just a regular second term. It' second term that happened four years later than most midterms. This should be a bloodbath the likes of which we've never seen in politics. Yet Republicans are holding their own.
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Charlie Hurt
Right.
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Brian Kilmeade
You see, the Economist story. The Economist story said Republicans are beginning to surge.
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Charlie Hurt
Yeah.
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Victor Davis Hanson
And, you know, there was no doubt in my mind at the beginning of this year that Republicans were going to lose the House and probably could lose the Senate. The map is a little bit favorable in the Senate, but in the House, it's going to be a wipeout. I wouldn't say that now. I would. I wouldn't be surprised if we weren't looking at maybe even some modest gains. But my point is this. If Republicans Come back after November and Donald Trump and his party is in stronger shape. Donald Trump has a free hand to do whatever he wants.
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Michael Makofsky
It is.
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Victor Davis Hanson
It will be a complete confirmation of his leadership and of what he, you know, his agenda.
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Brian Kilmeade
I just wish he personally did this negotiation. I know he can't do everything because there's no way that. J.D. vance. I just feel fundamentally he wasn't into it anyway. He made everybody let everybody know that leaked it out. However, it became abundantly clear. And, you know, he's like a lot of the podcasters out there who think that Donald Trump has no business going after Iran, even though the case could be made for 47 years and seven other presidents that they've been a huge problem to America and they take great pride in killing us or taking us hostage. So he decides to take it on. It's a very gutsy move. It ends up in an election year.
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Victor Davis Hanson
No politician in history has ever done something this big in an election year because it's so complicated and there's no way to get it done. The Iraq war started when? 2003. Not 2002. 2003. And I'm not comparing that, you know, America's interest there to America's interest here. I think America's interest here is a lot more defined than Iraq war. But my point is that nobody ever engages in something this massive in an election year. And Donald Trump has the guts to do it. Why not? Because it's politically advantageous to him at all. It's the opposite. It's because he believes it was the right thing to do. And it'll still. And those beliefs will still be there after the election. And if Republicans win or do much better than expected, then he's going to have an even stronger hand.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, I think he's doing it anyway. I bet you in November, when Iran starts funneling money to Hezbollah, when they start again, not living up to the deal, when they have the audacity to say what the parliamentary speaker said today, that we're going to come up with a program of fees for an international waterway. Not going to happen in November. It would be over. But Victor Davis Hansen, who's a military historian, said this cut 14.
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Doug Schoen
It's going to be more difficult to
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Brian Kilmeade
ensure they're not giving money to the
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Doug Schoen
Hezbollah and the Houthis and Hamas. That's more murky. And we don't know what they're going to do in Lebanon. And then, of course, we don't know
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Brian Kilmeade
what's going on in Iran because this
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Doug Schoen
is the first real Air war. We don't have boots on the ground,
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Brian Kilmeade
we don't have embeds.
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Doug Schoen
But we will learn very shortly, and we're going to get an idea of just how much damage was done. I think it might have been a half a trillion dollars or more in the nuclear military industrial complex. The main denominator, though, that has to be ironclad, is we have to react disproportionately.
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Brian Kilmeade
Any time they break the agreement hard, that will be it. But you just want to do it in a way that doesn't rock the economy. If the economy has everything to do with the president keeping the House and the Senate.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Look, look, you know, the idea of defunding Hezbollah and Hamas is like pie in the sky. Brilliant. Love it. Would love to have that happen. But the reality of it is that that's gonna be very difficult. And that was not what we were talking about at the beginning of this. What President Trump was talking about at the beginning of this was taking away their nuclear weapons and their ability to launch a nuclear strike. And he has done more to succeed at that effort than anything else. And, you know, obviously, he's going to be watching. You know, we'll spend months talking about the. About, you know, un. The investigation investigators trying to go in to deal with the nuclear dust and what happens to it, whether it gets downgraded or whether it gets removed. We're going to have all these conversations about all that stuff. But I think everybody can agree they have been removed significantly away from being able to develop a nuclear bomb right away.
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Brian Kilmeade
Except for the pickaxe. Pickaxe has not been touched. They caved in the entrance. And that, evidently, is the gold standard in a granite mountain. And it just goes to show you, they keep lying and saying they never had plans for a nuclear weapon. You don't build a facility inside a mountain. If he's waiting for a nuclear weapon
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Victor Davis Hanson
come late November, if. If we have relia intelligence that shows that they are trying to do something there, that President Trump doesn't come back and do something about it, the question
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Brian Kilmeade
is, in 60 days, if they just give the Heisman to our negotiators, who I'm convinced we need a fresh set. To me, you can't have Henry Kissinger and his disciples. I don't care. The best negotiators ever. You can't do Ukraine, Gaza and Iran. I mean, it's an impossible portfolio. You have to be able to get other people in there that have expertise in this area. So for me personally, that's what I Would love to see. Here's one thing in terms of politics and they'll let you go, Troy, and get ready for your weekend. Harry Entin on CNN talks about what you just brought up about what's gonna happen in the midterms cut 34. I think the warning sign is this Democrats have an edge, but compared to
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Michael Makofsky
what we see historically, it's really not
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Brian Kilmeade
that big of a lead. I mean, just take a look here.
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Michael Makofsky
Okay.
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Brian Kilmeade
This is Congress national June polls, Dem leads.
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Michael Makofsky
And this is NBC News midterm years
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Brian Kilmeade
with the GOP press.
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Michael Makofsky
Look at this.
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Brian Kilmeade
They're up by five points. But that's half the lead they had
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Michael Makofsky
back in 2018 when it was 10
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Brian Kilmeade
points and less than half the lead
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Michael Makofsky
they had back in 2006 with 11
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Brian Kilmeade
points when Democrats took back the House
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Michael Makofsky
in both of those years.
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Brian Kilmeade
And now the Democratic lead is on a single hand. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 points. And it's this type of lead where
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Michael Makofsky
you say, you know what, Democrats are
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Brian Kilmeade
ahead, but don't count your chickens just quite yet.
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Victor Davis Hanson
And of course, all of this is happening with an economy that is, on paper, very robust. Robust. Despite what is going on at the, in the Strait of Hormuz, despite what's going on with gas prices. You turn the gas prices around and you've got three or four months.
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Charlie Hurt
Yeah.
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Brian Kilmeade
If it's, even if it's going in the right direction.
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Victor Davis Hanson
It's already going in the right direction.
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Brian Kilmeade
Charlie. Her who's on this weekend. Do you know?
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Victor Davis Hanson
We've got. Well, I mean, Rachel and eight hours. Yeah, exactly. We're just putting together the greatest. And then of course.
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Doug Schoen
Yeah.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Six to ten every. Yeah, no, yeah. 6:00am that's four hours. Yeah.
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Brian Kilmeade
Eight hours.
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Charlie Hurt
Yeah.
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Victor Davis Hanson
You do three hours. Three hours. We just did three hours.
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Brian Kilmeade
So I don't get paid. That's why I don't get paid. Just. It's just two weeks and we're gonna
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Victor Davis Hanson
have you, we'll have you promoing your show right.
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Brian Kilmeade
On Sunday while providing.
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Victor Davis Hanson
That is the, that's the highest rated segment every single weekend.
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Brian Kilmeade
Well, if I get to a World Cup, I'm coming on. Yeah.
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Victor Davis Hanson
And, and we're already all dressed, so
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Brian Kilmeade
you don't even need to do. I don't even need to tell you that.
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Victor Davis Hanson
But you should be saying, yeah, and I'm going to be with you tomorrow morning.
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Brian Kilmeade
Right. As yourself. You're playing yourself.
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Victor Davis Hanson
I'll be myself.
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Brian Kilmeade
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Brian Kilmeade
Radio that makes you think this is the Brian Kilmeade Show. You know, coming up next, we're going to have Senator Tommy Tuberville. He likes this deal. We talked a lot about the Iran deal. I'll talk about more than that. And the president states has made it clear the one thing that he's got is a hammer. The one thing that George, H.W. george W. Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Joe Biden didn't have is any record of taking military action against Iran in any way, shape or form. I mean, the Kobar Towers never ran to the Marine barracks, were never answered. We could go over and over about the hostages that were taken and paid for. There was never really answered. You know, we blew up an oil refinery once, but the president did it with taking out Soleimani. The president did it with midnight Hammer. The president did it with three weeks of war over this from February until March or April. So that's why he'll have the hammer. They start their antics up, which we know they will, it all comes back down. But rallying the rest of the world to put sanctions back on, that'll be the key, which will be tougher. Right now, the market's up over 300 points and oil is down. And I think the president sucks it up, takes a little criticism into the midterms. Breaking news, unique opinions, hear it all on the Brian Kilmeade Show. Hey, welcome back, everybody. I have a lot to talk about. There's a lot going on in Capitol Hill. Yesterday. The president thought we I thought we were going to get a new dni and Bill Pulte was going to be pulled and they were going to get a quick vote on a DNI and then get and get everything FISA passed and updated with more precautions and more safeguards in it. But the president announced overseas I'm not doing it unless I get the America first act passed, not the America Yet Save America Act. So he told everyone, don't vote on my guy, my nominee. So that kind of blew up everything and caught Republicans by surprise. Maybe my next guest, too, Senator Tommy Tuberville, Armed Services Committee. And the senator is running for governor, got the Republican nomination, certainly to be the next governor of Alabama. Senator, welcome back. What happened yesterday?
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
Well, Basically, President Trump wasn't going to let Republicans or Democrats control his agenda. And that's what, that's what's happening right now, Brian. On the Republican side, you know, we, we've got about 90% of the Republicans that are on President Trump's side. We got about 10% that they're going to side with the Democrats more than President Trump. And he's, he's about had it. And he said, listen, you know, I'm running this show. I'm picking out the nominees. These are my people. And you can't, you can't go around me without doing things that I've asked you to do. And, you know, he is bound and determined to get the Save America act passed because it's probably the most, the most important legislation in the last 25, 30 years because of all the illegals in this country. So President Trump's fighting back against, you know, the Republican Party because we're not getting anything done for him.
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Brian Kilmeade
Well, a couple of things. I don't know what you're going to do because Murkowski, Collins, McConnell and probably Tillis. I'm not sure where the other. They're not for it. So if you can't get Republicans, how are you going to get Democrats to get you to 60?
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
Well, you're not going to do it. And again, John Thune, between a rock and a hard place. If you want to be leader now, you got to lead now. You got to make tough decisions. Do you bring those people in the, into your office and say, listen, you want to be chairman of a committee, fine, you vote for this. If you don't, we're going to move you back to end the line. We, we can't worry about, you know, surviving. That's what we're doing up here right now. We're worried, Brian. We're worried about surviving as a majority. Instead of going win, let's win right now and let the midterms take care of itself. But we're not winning at all. I mean, we're getting blocked by 10% of the people when 90% of us are with President Trump, and we're not making any progress.
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Brian Kilmeade
So here's what the, with the Save America act says. All voters must show ID. 80% of the country afford that, maybe more. All voters must show proof of citizenship. No mail in ballots except for illness, disability, military travel. That might be a problem in a place like Oregon, where they've always had mail in ballots and there's no real thought about corruption there, but no men and women's sports, no transgender mutualization surgery of our children. So 4 and 5, I think are necessary. But why are they in that act, Senator?
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
Well, you know, when, when you're in the situation that we're in up here right now, can't get anything passed, you try to, you try to maneuver your build around to where you can get just something through. But again, it doesn't make any difference. You know, we could put in there, you know, we're going to leave December 25th this Christmas. And these people, that Republic Republican, the Rhinos and the Democrats, they wouldn't vote for it because President Trump's for it. And it's not really about anything other than the hate for President Trump and his agenda. And it's just unfortunate because he's the best president we've had in my lifetime.
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Brian Kilmeade
Well, I mean, the other thing is, so this guy, I've never met him, but I, but I think he was bipartisan support for Jay Clayton to be the next dni. And Tom Cotton, the Republican chairman of the committee, announced at first he was going to go ahead with it. You guys are a separate branch of government. And then when the president came out and said don't do it, he decided not to do it. So where's that nomination stand?
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
Well, President Trump was seeing what was going on. Now, first of all, Bill Poultry is a good guy. He's hard nosed. And I think that probably you leaving him in there a few weeks, you might get a few surprises about what he knows and things that, you know, he can get across the goal line. And I've never seen a nomination like this go through so quickly. And for some reason, Tom Cotton was just adamant going against the president, but he found out real quick, the president, United States runs the show. And so they didn't do it. And Bill Pulcher will be there for a while and Jay Clayton is a great guy, he'll do good. But President Trump put it on hold. And then again, if you saw what he said yesterday, we're not doing anything else since you pass the Save America Act. And I tell you, even some of these people that don't like President Trump better, really be careful because as you said earlier, 89% of people in this country, especially Republicans, that are going to vote in November, want the Save America act passed.
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Brian Kilmeade
So what are you gonna do about the FISA renewal?
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
Well, that's gonna have to be adjusted. And you know, we, we can, we can do without it for a while, but we're gonna need it down the line. And again, that's not the number one thing on the list right now. We have, we have got to get something passed here that's gonna help the American people feel like that they're part of the country right now. They just getting shut out. The American people, they have no say. So when I go back to Alabama, they say coach, why should I vote? I don't feel like my vote's gonna count because there's four or five illegals gonna vote over top of me. Them some security that they are part of this country. And that's the reason they, they clung to President Trump because he ran for America first agenda and we're not really on track with it. He is, but the entire Republican Party, 90% of us are, but we got 10% that's just going the other way.
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Brian Kilmeade
So I'm looking at the economists, they have this YouGov poll and shows that you guys Republicans are closing the gap on the generic ballot, getting up to the midterms. It was in double figures in 2018 when you lost the, when you got trounced, picked up a seat in the Senate but lost the House. And now you have, it's basically a two point difference between the two parties. So this would totally go against, I guess American tradition. Usually the party in power gets punished in the midterms, especially in the President's last term. Why do you think you guys are gaining?
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
I think we're gaining number one in the House is caused a redistricting. You know, the gerrymandering that the Democrats have done for years in the Northeast, it just, it's just unbelievable how we've let them get by with that. And so now we're correct a lot of those mistakes. But again, in, in the House or the Senate, you've got a lot of dissension because there's a lot of people out there in some of these states that are voting because the Save America act is not in that President Trump is going to fight against, you know, probably 8 to 10% of people voting that hate him, that shouldn't be voting. So that I think that's the reason we're in harm's way right now when it comes to the Senate.
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Brian Kilmeade
So Senator, get me up to date. Senator Tommy Tuberville, our guest, longtime coach in college football, but now we're talking about reforming college sports. So yesterday you're now introducing the Student Athlete Act. How is that different from what the Senate put forward led by Randy Levine who's an outsider in the con and that task force that came forward. What's go what is the Student Athlete Act?
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
Student Athlete act basically is the nuts and bolts of what we need to be doing. You know, Ted Cruz is come up with a bill with Senator Cantwell. Here's what they're trying to do. They're trying to turn college sports into the same situation we got in with Obamacare. Do not turn college sports over to the federal government. And if we pass a Cruise Cantwell bill, that's exactly what it'll be. We do not need to do that. 80% of the problem, Brian, is these kids are number one. They're not getting an education because of why they're transferring every year. Let's have five years of eligibility, no red shirts, no exceptions, and one time transfer, free transfer. Now if you want to transfer after that, you got to sit out of your.
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Brian Kilmeade
That's in that bill, isn't it? That's in the cruise bill.
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
It's in there, but what does it say? There's going to be a committee that will give waivers. And if you ever put an exception in there, Brian, what happens is that committee's always. Well, my grandmother, my, my junior year, she had a cold and I had to go home.
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Kennedy
Stop.
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
Do not. We not. We don't give waivers. You got, It's a set deal. We got to get high school athletes back into this. Quit the transferring every year, one time transfer, the coach leaves or whatever, something happens in the family. I'm good with that. So we added a one pre transfer. After that you gotta, you gotta stay unless you want to transfer and set out a year. But we cannot allow waivers. And that's what their bill does, it allows waivers.
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Brian Kilmeade
Okay, so that bothers you. Can't that be hashed out and can't that be amended? Because that makes sense. What you just said makes total sense.
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
Yeah, yeah, but this is a Democrat bill to get something done. You know, we as Republicans have given to the Democrats on this. They will not change that for anything. And I told them, hey, I might vote for this if you'll change that. No way they'll.
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Brian Kilmeade
What else bothers you about the bill?
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
Well, 20 person congressional committee that makes decisions in college sports, they make decisions on scheduling, they make decisions on who's in the conference, conference realignment contracts. We can't get the federal government involved in college sports. It's the same thing as Obamacare. You want to end up with a disaster. You put the federal government in charge. We can't do anything right up here. Let's just do the blocking and tackling the eligibility and the transfer and let the NCAA do their job.
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Brian Kilmeade
What about salaries for the players? What about limitations? Nil screening. How do we make sure the other sports besides basketball and football continue to survive?
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
Yeah, that's what this, this bill does not do. It does not do anything for women's sports. And so you're going. It does not do anything for, for revenue sharing of giving money to women's sports. Right now there's $20 million in the big, big leagues that have to give out revenue sharing every year. Well, it just goes to football. It should be, it should be dispersed evenly of every athlete. Every athlete out there. So listen, the money's out of the bag. You know, they can go sell their name, image and likeness. I'm fine. If they want to make $100 million a year and people are stupid enough to give it to them, let's go with it. But don't let them transfer every year. That will stop 80% of the problems. And don't allow 30 year olds of eight years of eligibility to play against an 18 year old. That's wrong.
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Brian Kilmeade
So what would you do about nil contracts? Would you set up a structure? And if you believe there should be a structure, who should be in charge of it? It doesn't seem like the NCAA can win a court case. And should there be a separate body? Should be because somebody's got to be in charge. The NFL's got a commissioner, the baseball's got a commissioner, NBA's got a commissioner.
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Charlie Hurt
What?
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Brian Kilmeade
Who should be in charge of college sports.
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
Ncaa. And as you said, they won't make a decision because they get sued every time, you know, somebody breathes. That's one other thing in this bill, by the way. This, this Cruise Cantwell bill is players can sue at any time. And it's, it looks like the trial lawyers wrote this bill. Brown, you got to get away from the money part. The money's out there. People are going to do it. Let these universities handle their money if they're going to pay players. But if you stop the transfer every year, you're not going to have that spurge of money that goes in. They're going to get it up front.
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Brian Kilmeade
Coach. I think in every professional sport there's a salary cap or a luxury tax. I think that if you have infinite amount of dollars, the next Arch Manning is a senior in high school. If the same schools are, the LSU's are going to be the one getting them. No one will ever have a shot at the star players coming out of high school or the one Time transfer.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Don't you agree?
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
I agree. But Brian, here's the deal. Federal court system said they can make money. And if you go after that and try to limit the money anybody makes, anybody makes, you can't do that in this country. It's a free country. It's capitalist. But you, but you can go out there and make the money, right? But you can't, you can't limit it.
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Brian Kilmeade
You can't salary cap, there's a limit in, there's a limit in the NBA, there's a loot in the NFL.
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
But okay, if you start doing that, Brian, here's what happens. You're going to have to make the players employees. And you do that. Boy, that's what the Democrats are looking for. Please allow us to make them employees. What do they do next? They unionize. And it will be a total, absolute disaster. This is about education. It's about education.
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Brian Kilmeade
Have you talked to Randy Levine?
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
No.
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Brian Kilmeade
So you know he's a Yankee president, he's not a Democrat as far as I know. And you know, he's good friends with the president. So he helped lead this up as a lawyer and he agrees with you. They should not be unionized. And that's the one thing I could say about this bill. There's no players union.
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
Well, this bill does not block it out. It goes, we, this bill says verbatim, we do not say whether the players can be employees or not employees. That will be basically decided later. That's where it's headed. So you do this bill, it's going to be, you're going to have employees in college playing for money, no education, and you're going to eliminate the high school players. I mean, they're going to have to just fight their way in, walk on, try to make a name for themselves and hope they can prove that they're pretty good.
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Brian Kilmeade
Nobody on this issue has more credibility than you. If you went up, if you pull these two aside and said, I need these changes. Have you tried that? And said, can you make these changes to this bill? Because we agree somebody's got to address this. Nobody is. They actually asked for help. So if you pulled Cruz aside, he would not listen to you.
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
We've talked about it. I said, ted, let's just, let's just do my bill for one year, five years eligibility, one time transfer, do that. And then, then if you feel like that you can put the federal government in a little bit more of it, then pass that. But if you pass this at one time, it's like Obamacare it is law. You're not changing it. I gave a speech on the floor the other day. It is set in stone. And the Democrats are licking their chops if this passes because they will control all of our baseball area and amateur sports, which is college. And it just makes me sick at my stomach that we would even get involved in this. But I've talked to the president. You know, he executive ordered my bill about two months ago. Five. Five years to play. Five. No red shirt, no excuses, no waivers. And at one time he executive ordered that. And if people would read this bill, it's 111 pages and it says, hey, coach, we got your ears in there. It's five for five. Yeah, but you can't put waivers in there. You can't have a committee of people just given waivers like giving out candy. And that's what will happen because they'll be afraid to get sued. Make the dang federal law stick, and then everything else will take care of itself.
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Brian Kilmeade
Is there anything you could do federally? Not being a lawy may sound like a naive question. Is there anything you do to empower the ncaa?
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
It's hard because right now, if you, if you talk to the president, NCAA, there's probably got probably 100 lawsuits out there. People are going to sue for anything nowadays. And it's just, it's unfortunate. A lot of things that they caused themselves. We told them years ago, Brian, hey, you got to give players part of this money. There's too much money out there. Give them revenue sharing, you know, give them, give every player $25,000 a year of the TV. If they'd have done that, we'd have been off and sailing. They wouldn't do it. Made some bad decisions. And when you make bad decisions in the long run, you're going to pay for it. That's the same thing with this bill. If you put it in there. Obamacare 2.0, federal government running college sports. My God, I'd hate to see what. I'm hating to see what's going to happen. Because right now I think they got the votes in the Senate to pass this. I don't know about the House.
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Brian Kilmeade
I know they have their own bill. Senator Tommy Tuberville, always great. And I can't wait for you to take over as governor. Appreciate you joining us.
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
Thank you, Brian.
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Brian Kilmeade
Back in a moment. It's Brian Kilmade, The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmeade. And finally, apparently bars in Boston are running out of beer because of all the Scottish soccer fans. In town for the World Cup. It's a bit of a wake up call when people from Boston are like, you drink too much. That is pretty amazing. Do you know that? We know they're called tartan. The tartan army. The tartan army. Do you know they made a huge donation to a hospital for pediatric cancer or pediatric needs. So it's pretty cool. They are such good natured drunks. And then they don't look like a mess. I mean, the way they drink is unbelievable. I mean, for me, four or five beers maybe because we don't sleep, but four or five beers, I feel like, I feel it, right? These guys just drink forever. But they go to the game, they scream all day, they drink back again, they start early in the morning and they don't look like a mess. My question, have you tried drinking that
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Doug Schoen
much in a kilt?
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Brian Kilmeade
Hmm, you mean something about the skirt?
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Michael Makofsky
Maybe.
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Brian Kilmeade
That's maybe a secret. Yeah, maybe it's the breeze that keeps you awake. You can't fall asleep. But I mean, I just, I'm just loving, and I'll discuss it on the one nation, but loving all the people with these positive reviews of our country. All the stuff we take for granted. Oh, they love it in South Carolina. They can't believe Dallas's stadium, Dallas Cowboy Stadium has the air conditioning. You know, they're just, they're out in the parking lot. Can't believe how nice our stadiums are, which you're a lot nicer than the
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Victor Davis Hanson
rest of the world.
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Brian Kilmeade
World is like all the bad publicity. We got, people coming here, finding out it's all bs.
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Kennedy
Set expectations low and they'll be happy.
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Charlie Hurt
Right?
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Brian Kilmeade
Two things. People like our country and now they like soccer. Is there any two better things in my world?
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Kennedy
Drinking more beer.
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Brian Kilmeade
Oh, that's true. From the Fox News radio studios in midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show, Brian Kilmeade.
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Michael Makofsky
Hi, everyone.
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Brian Kilmeade
So glad you're there. It's the Brian Kilmeade show. We're moving forward rapidly. Where I'm just watching this now. We have a parade going on in New York City. So is stuff going on. Puerto Rican Day parade, pride parade. There's always somebody's being celebrated. Whether it's Italian Day. We celebrate Israel two weeks ago for some airden show up. And now you celebrate The Knicks. Is 4 million people expected to be there? 20,000 cops are on duty hoping everything goes smooth. And so far it is people celebrating with their families, not a bunch of thugs looking to burn buses. We saw that in certain sections. But it's really remarkable to see the city come together like this. This hour I'm going to be joined by Stuart Varney. Michael Makofsky is going to be with this. He's with the Jewish Institute for National Security of America. I got to get his take on Israel's place in this big in the, in the the memorandum of understanding which launches 60 days of negotiation. And Senator John Houston is standing by. He's with Small Business Health and Education running for reelection in Ohio. And let's go to him right now. Senator, thanks so much for joining us. I appreciate it.
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Senator John Houston
Great to be with you.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, it's great to talk to you. By the way, the senator is going to be featured in my book coming out next year. The Games Still Count because you had a remarkable athletic background which you were kind enough to share with me. Senator, right. Now, when you look at the Iran deal, from what you know, in the 14 points, are you with Ted Cruz, a big critic, or are you somebody that's supporting it, maybe like Lindsey Graham's tending to do?
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Senator John Houston
Yeah, I'm cautiously optimistic. You know, it's a framework for continuing discussions. This is Iran is the leading sponsor of state terrorism. We're negotiating from a position of strength because their Navy's at the bottom of the ocean, their nuclear program is under rubble, their top two tiers of leadership are in the grave. And now we're continuing those conversations. And I can tell you people in Ohio like the fact that oil prices are on their way down and gas prices are on their way down. So domestically, I think that's what people care about. I think internationally, we've got Iran in a better position to negotiate than we had before this all started.
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Brian Kilmeade
So here's the president. If not, if it doesn't go well,
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Charlie Hurt
cut one, it's a memorandum of understanding. If it doesn't get done in 60 days, that's all right, we go back to bombing. You know, I don't want to do that because it's so good, but we might have to because we're never going to let them have a nuclear weapon. But they've agreed not to. And you'll see that very clearly in the agreement.
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Brian Kilmeade
One thing that bothers me, there's a lot of things that bother me about it, Senator, to be honest, oil sales right away, banking services have been ban restrictions have been lifted. Insurance needed to facilitate those sales can be implemented. There's they're talking about unfreezing funds, about 24 billion of the 100 billion and immediately we've Already heard from Reuters today that the Hezbollah has been contacted from the Iranians saying money is coming your direction. And how does that lead to more unrest in Israel?
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Senator John Houston
Look, it's entirely possible, but this is a, this is a memorandum of understanding. It isn't a treaty. It isn't, it is a framework for opening the Strait of Hormuz, trying to restore some economic stability to the world and then continuing the negotiations. It may all fall down, Brian, and we can continue to have, I mean, war is always an option, but peace is harder. And I think the president is trying to get a peaceful negotiation, although I think all of us who have watched Iran be an untrustworthy adversary for 47 years are, have reason to be, you know, have doubt in the back of our minds. But I'm going to choose to be optimistic at this point in time and hopeful that Iran will see that there's no good way out for them other than to work with America on this, on resolving the issues in the Middle East.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah. If manufacturing comes back, Ohio will feel it. Do you feel as though manufacturing is beginning to come back with a rash of trade deals and tariffs?
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Senator John Houston
It has because we have more jobs in Ohio than we've ever had in Ohio history. And we have a 3.9 unemployment, 3.9% unemployment rate, which is lower than the national average and near historic low levels. And so we have people who are employed and working and growing the economy, growing population again in a midwestern state like Ohio. The one challenge we have economically is the cost of living. And that's why people in Ohio are, you know, they like the idea that gas, oil prices and gas prices are going down. That's the one thing that they've struggled with. And so, you know, we've got some good momentum going.
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Brian Kilmeade
Senator, also the, not many people are talking about it, but EU has had, they have signed off on the trade deal with us to reconfigure that trade relationship. Your thoughts on that and the fact that the President said that's good news. The other news is the USMCA not really into, not in a rush to update it. Do you wish that he would update the usmca? And how does Ohio benefit from having a special relationship with Canada and Mexico?
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Senator John Houston
Well, Ohio benefits because Canada and Mexico are our leading trading partners. We manufacture things, it's all part of the supply chain. But we also have to negotiate a good deal. We can't let China move products through Canada and Mexico into America tariff free just because they're moving through that zone. So we've Got to have strong. A good trade deal. Made in America is good for Ohio because you can't do made in America without making things in the Midwest. From the food you eat to the cars you drive, to the trucks, to the airplanes, we make it all. And this strategy to do more made in America is benefiting places like Ohio.
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Brian Kilmeade
So do you want the President to update it and would you be part of that negotiation?
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Senator John Houston
Yeah, well, updating, it's great. I supported the original USMCA that he did in the first term. It's working very well. It just needs to be updated and, and to make sure that again, the one thing that I want to make sure doesn't happen is that China and other nations who want to cheat don't move products into Mexico or Canada, provide some modest enhancement to them and then try to sell them tariff free into the United States. Those things need to be cracked down on. We need to make sure that that is enforced.
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Brian Kilmeade
So, Senator, today I think you guys are going to take a look at passing some type of college reform bill in the Senate or that's going to be coming up shortly. How do you feel about that? What do you do? The Cantwell Cruz piece of legislation, have you had a chance to look at it?
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Senator John Houston
Yeah, well, look, college athletics is a mess. I believe that putting some kind of federal framework around it to create some minimum standards is worthy of our time. But I'm also, I'm not as worried about what's happening to the big time programs as I'm worried about happening to the, to the Olympic sports, the non revenue sports. I want to make sure that, that we continue to have athletics in college that's available to develop the character of our young people. I believe athletics is essential to that. The big money stuff isn't what bothers me. It's what happens to all the other sports. That's really been my focus.
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Brian Kilmeade
Do you think the Senate bill addresses that?
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Senator John Houston
I think the Senate bill is okay. I know that there are some people that don't like it, but no one's going to. It's not going to be a perfect product. I think it's a good starting point for the, for the negotiations.
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Brian Kilmeade
So let's talk about something else. You guys are working on a bipartisan housing bill. The average price of a house, I'm not sure in Ohio, but it's definitely here in New York, is a million dollars for a starter house. I mean, that's really much higher than inflation can rationalize. How did it get there? And what is your housing act that you can support. What would it do?
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Senator John Houston
Well, it combines a lot of bipartisan ideas into the road to housing bill. One of the things that it does is that it helps to limit the amount of corporate ownership of homes in certain areas. I know in Ohio you have private equity firms and others who have buy it up homes, make them corporate homes, and then they're not on the market for single family residents. So that's an issue. But a lot of housing is local regulations and state regulations. This helps with some of the financing, this helps break down some of the barriers. Other things we should do is permitting reform so that we can help bring build things easier in America. All of those things help. It's supply and demand. If you make it harder to build, you're going to have fewer housing units and you're going to create the supply and demand problem, which is jacking up prices. But the reason it's so expensive in places like New York and California are the stupid local regulations they have in Ohio. It's a much more affordable place than New York to live and buy a home. And we're starting to use that to our advantage. And that's why I think to some extent you see people moving to places like Ohio because it's more affordable.
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Brian Kilmeade
So, you know what's interesting is Kamala Harris says I'm gonna build hundreds of thousands of homes. She was talking about government money. So how does the government push but without doing,
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Senator John Houston
we don't need more government money, we need less government. We need the government to get out of the way. We need building permits, we need, you know, if I was the mayor of a city, I would basically tell people right now, now in my city, I can process a building permit faster than anyone else, please come invest in my city. Instead. They dump on all of these regulations to try to micromanage the process of building homes. And it makes it more expensive. Time is money. And if you delay the process, if you make it more expensive to build a home for the home builder, then you're going to have a more expensive product for the home buyer at every level of government, local, state and federal. We need to get that regulation out of the way.
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Brian Kilmeade
All right, so let's talk about something else you're working on. You plan to introduce a bill to establish a clear exit strategy for taxpayer backed equity investment, requiring the government to divest its ownership stakes once they have served this strategic purpose. So what, what is the focus here?
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Senator John Houston
Well, as you know, President Trump made some investments in some in companies. You know, under the CHIPS act and other things where the federal government took a stake in these companies. And then you also have Bernie Sanders out there talking about, about how the federal government should take ownership of AI companies. I'm uncomfortable with the federal government owning American companies. I understand that it's important that we can make strategic investments at time. I don't mind the fact that American taxpayers get a benefit from that in the gains that they get from the growth of those companies. But I don't want the federal government owning these companies in the long run. I want to force them to divide, invest within eight years. And then all of the revenue that comes, that accrues to the federal government as a result of the profits of that investment should go for paying down the national debt. I feel very strongly about that. It's not, you know, whether you're, if you're a Democrat or Republican, you may not like President Trump, you may not like Bernie Sanders, but the idea that the federal government would have such control over American companies is a little unsettling to me. And I want to make sure we have a pathway to divest.
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Brian Kilmeade
But do you think that if they somehow get involved, the government could profit off that and goes back into the coffers?
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Senator John Houston
Yeah. Well, it's happening. You see some of these investments that President Trump has made in companies, their stock prices have boomed as a result of that. The American taxpayer can benefit from that. And then that money that the federal government gains from selling their shares in that company should go for paying down the national debt. I just don't want the federal government to micromanage American capitalism to the detriment of other companies or meddling. That can come when you have too much control from the federal government.
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Brian Kilmeade
So yesterday it looked like you guys gonna go out of your way, not your committee, but eventually the whole Senate to confirm Jay Clayton for the next dni. And then it all blew up because the President said, if you don't pass the Save America Act, I'm pulling this guy. Meanwhile, basically, Tom Cotton listened and pulled the nomination and nobody knows what to do next. What do you do next, Senator?
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Senator John Houston
Well, that's really up to the President, I can tell you that. You need Democrat votes to pass fisa. The Democrats are never voting for Save America. They're never voting for it. They don't. Their base would never let them end transgender surgeries. They wouldn't. Base would never let them do photo id. Their base would never let them stop or put safeguards in place so that non citizens can vote. And so the Democrats are never voting for It. And you need Democrat votes to get FISA completed. And so, you know, that's just the reality.
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Brian Kilmeade
You don't even have enough Republicans.
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Senator John Houston
Well, for certain parts of it we do. There are different parts of it. Like I sponsored legislation to put the photo ID in place, photo ID requirement in place. And 100% of Republicans voted for it, 100% of Democrats voted against it. So some parts of it we do. But this is really up to the President to negotiate with the leadership of the Senate. But the Democrats, the Democrats are not going to vote for FISA with Save America it.
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Brian Kilmeade
They just won't and they just don't like it. Even though most of America wants voter id, they don't want the transgender stuff in it.
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Senator John Houston
And they wouldn't vote for photo id. They wouldn't vote for preventing non citizen from voting. They won't vote for the to ban transgender surgeries on youth. They don't want to vote to ban men playing women's sports. That's the radical left that the Democrat Party is now. And they're not for any of it.
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Brian Kilmeade
And unless you guys get 60 votes on your own through an election, and that's probably not gonna go anywhere, right?
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Senator John Houston
Under the rules, you gotta have 60 votes.
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Brian Kilmeade
All right, Senator, best of luck. I know you can't talk about it because you're in your Senate office, but I know you're up for six more years in Senate. It's a tough fight over there in Ohio, but every election's tough in Ohio, Senator. Thanks so much, Senator Houston. Appreciate it.
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Senator John Houston
Great to be with you.
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Brian Kilmeade
You got it. Back in a moment. Don't go anywhere. Brian Kilmeade will be right back. The talk show that's getting you talking, you're with Brian Kilmeade. Well, everyone's excited because tomorrow is the New York Knicks championship parade. And I read that after the parade, the department of sanitation will clean up over £40,000 of confetti. Oh, they'll either start at the cleanup at 5 in the morning or get a giant leaf blower and make it New Jersey's problem. Okay. It's hysterical. Jimmy Fallon was at the game though, to get good tickets when you hosted the Tonight Show. So here we go. There is a parade going on right now. It's carried just about everywhere. And then we'll be done and it's up for the up for next year. We'll see what happens because basically when this is done, we're going to be left with World cup soccer and baseball and not many people are paying attention. To baseball. They are just not I think soccer is moving up in the old time rankings. Let me know what you think. 1-866-408-7669 what are your top three sports you think in America? What do you what are yours and what do you think the country's is because it looks like soccer is moving up turns to sports College sports Making college sports reform is making its way through the Senate and Ted Cruz is one of the co sponsors. Here's what he said. Cut 48 College athletics is being torn apart from every direction. State laws compete against each other. Agents, collectives, boosters and media companies make decisions without care for the student athlete
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
or the greater good.
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Brian Kilmeade
And when national organizations try to create some structure, they're repeatedly sued, forced to change the rules again, or simply blocked from enforcing them. As a lawmaker, it was not my intention to try to insert Congress into college sports. College sports came to Congress because changing the law, law is the only way to fix the legal chaos that we're seeing right now. And it is, you know, certain you like your school, you're going to go to a big school and they have a lot of success. But if you don't have legitimate competition, it's a problem. And when you have guys transferring every year because they get more money, that's an issue. One transfer and then you got to sit out a year if you do another. This way you can really push towards graduation. There's some really great reforms in there. Here's more From Ted Cruz Cup 49 Congress unfortunately helped create the legal environment in which college sports now operates. Federal antitrust, broadcasting and interstate commerce laws shape what schools and conferences and governing bodies can do. If college sports cannot enforce basic rules because of the laws that Congress wrote, then Congress has a responsibility to adjust them and we're the only people who can. That's exactly what the Protect College Sports act does. And what bothers Governor Tom soon to be Governor Tommy Tuberville. Now senator says I don't want the government involved because once they have legislation, they're going to keep coming back to government in order to handle college sports. The problem is every sport's got salary limitations. It's a major sport. The NBA has, has a salary cap. The NFL has a salary cap. The baseball has a luxury tax. So when college college football people are actually staying in college because they make more money than they do as a rookie in the NFL and some are not going to make in the NFL. So you stay as long as possible, five years to finish. We agree on that if a coach leaves, you can leave understand on that and then just have a salary cap and an nil clearinghouse. He's so busy he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Kilmeade. The United States is not going to directly pay Iran, but the US Is going to let the Iranians start making
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Charlie Hurt
billions of dollars Only if they're doing things right. If they're doing things right. If people want to invest, they can invest. When you talk about billions of dollars, they've had much more than a trillion dollars worth of damage done. They got a long way. If they're not behaving, they get hit again.
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Brian Kilmeade
So that is, we have a 14 point memo of understanding and then a 60 day window to negotiate. But one thing happens right away. The strait opens, the blockades for both countries end. And then after 60 days, the Iranians think they're going to toll it. They can't toll it. That's unacceptable. But right now they could sell oil and they could also have restrictions lifted on their banking. So that is something. And then we have a $300 billion slush fund which is put together by the Arab states. They say no American money, but what is the criteria for them to use that? These are some of the questions that I have. Maybe Michael McKoffsky has too. President, CEO of the Jewish Institute for National Security of America, leading Washington D.C. based policy and education organization, focus on U.S. defense. So Michael, what are your thoughts about the 14 points?
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Michael Makofsky
Thanks for having me back, Brian. Look, I think it's terrible deal based on what we're reading so far. You know, President Trump had said early in the war, you know, he wanted unconditional surrender. I might be exaggerating a little much, but I think if there's unconditional surrender, it's more on our side than it is on the Iranian side right now.
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Brian Kilmeade
So here is Trey Gowdy who used to be in Congress. Now he's here. Katwa. I was a little surprised, honestly. I mean, we literally had our foot on their throat militarily, economically. And I read this MoU, if you will, I guess about 48 hours ago and I didn't believe it. I thought somebody was spoofing me when, when I saw it because I see what we're giving up and then I see this word down blend. And I'm not the smartest guy in the world, Sandra, but if you can down blend blend than you can up blend. And how long would it take Iran to up blend? Because Donald Trump is going to be gone in January 2029. But the so called Supreme Leader is not going to be. Yeah, the Supreme Leader, yeah, hopefully will be, but we'll see. Now we have a situation where down blending, that means they get it and they down blend it, which means you can enrich it again. That's got to go. It's got, they've got to be found, it's got to be taken out. And now it might be buried beneath the ground or maybe it's not even buried that deep. We know how to get to it because I did see a report during the war that they booby trapped it just in case we had an operation to get it out. So down blending is would not suffice, right?
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Michael Makofsky
Absolutely not. You need to get it out of the country.
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Brian Kilmeade
So Israel not in on these negotiations, but they're affected. Do you believe Israel is going to get pressured to get out of Lebanon?
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Michael Makofsky
Yeah, but I think that's a, that is a clear red line for Israelis. No Israeli prime minister would allow such a thing. When you have Hezbollah, which is Iranian proxy, hitting Israeli soldiers attacking northern Israeli towns, you can't just passively say, oh well, what the hell, they're going to have to go after Hezbollah. So I think that among other things, I think it's a weak link. I mean basically it suggests that it commits Israel to something that Israel had nothing to do with. And I think for this, this is probably the biggest red line for the Israelis right now. Is Lebanon on?
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Brian Kilmeade
Right. And the President said some interesting, but I'm sure people are going to walk him back and tell him he can't. And that is about nuclear, about nuclear energy cut for.
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Charlie Hurt
Well, I've said to them always, I say, look, you have probably the third largest oil reserves in the world. What the hell do you need nuclear for? You need nuclear for some electricity. So. So I've always felt that way. So we've been pretty tough in that. You know, it's also, it is a little hard though when you say that somebody wants it, other people have it, other adjoining states have it and you're not letting them have it for purposes of electricity and things like that. So it was a little tough. You have to use a little common sense.
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Brian Kilmeade
Common sense says they should not have nuclear energy because you can easily get that enrichment capability and make it weapons grade.
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Michael Makofsky
Right.
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Brian Kilmeade
That's why anyone with nuclear energy in the Middle east outside you guys who are a democracy and can be trusted or Israel can be trusted, they do their enriching, they get enriched uranium, they don't make enriched Uranium.
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Michael Makofsky
Right. There are a number of countries that do not enrich their own uranium. I mean, so you don't have to do that. I mean, I think the president, when he started this war, he had exactly the right idea. And by the way, I want to say I give him a lot of credit for initiating this war that lasted for about 38 days of combat. He said no nukes, no nothing. And for whatever reason, beginning with the ceasefire, things have gone downhill. And I think it's just important to understand, again, I think President Trump deserved a lot of credit by building up a lot of leverage. Him with the Israelis really pummeled the Iranians. And I think for some inexplicable reasons, I mean, one could speculate why he's really given up a lot of that leverage. And that's why we have this MOU that seems actually very bad, I think, for the United States and goes against. Against what he said he was going to do.
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Brian Kilmeade
Can you track if Hamas and Hezbollah are getting funded?
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Michael Makofsky
Yeah, I mean, the Israelis, I mean, we. I think we can. It's hard. It's not easy to do certain things you could do. But I mean, I've seen reports already that the Israel, that the Iranians already communicating, that Hezbollah is going to be getting a lot more money. Because, look, one of the problems of the MOU is that almost automatically we're going to, as you pointed out, Brian, we're going to remove the blockade. Oil's going to flow. That means they're going to. The Iranians are going to get a lot of oil export revenue. What are they going to do with it? One of the things they're going to do is give it to Hezbollah and
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Brian Kilmeade
you'd be able to track that. And there's nothing in there that I see right now about funding proxies make best efforts not to. Is that the term they're using?
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Michael Makofsky
Right. So that's one issue. And by the way, that was something that President Trump had correctly raised earlier on. But that's not in the deal. Another thing that's not in the deal is missiles. And I think President Trump said, I don't remember the exact quote, but I think he said yesterday or so, you know, he could accept some missiles, but that's also not in the deal, by the way, that wasn't in the deal in the JCPOA either. And I think that was a mistake by the American negotiators.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, no doubt about it. So how's it playing in Israel right now?
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Michael Makofsky
Well, look, actually, I just got here a few hours ago. So I'll know more next week if you want to talk about it. But based on what I know, I think it's extremely negative. The Lebanon issue, I think, is the most negative issue. You know, they weren't really consulted. I don't want to compare this to the famous munich deal of 1938 with Chamberlain. It's not comparable for various reasons. But I'll just add The Czechs in 1938 weren't really consulted either. And you would think for something that has such importance for Israeli national security, they should have been part of this process more. And I think they weren't. They don't like what's going on on the Iranian side. I think they feel that it's going to lead them to have to go to war with Iran at some point in the future. And I think, especially as I think it was Trey Gowdy's quote that you just played, it's not just what's going on when President Trump is president, the importance of this deal, because President Trump has shown that he's willing to hit hard. He's a tough guy, but who's going to be president after him? And I think that's going to be a big question. And what Israel is going to have to do, especially after Trump is president, is open to question right now.
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Brian Kilmeade
Captain Brent Sadler with Defensive Democracies, retired Navy captain cut 19. Well, as a new group of people and the politics inside Tehran, the dynamics there are changing. The IRGC is not fully out of the picture and there's still a problem. You've got the theocratic leader and the supreme leader now, who is never the chosen successor. So that comes with some interesting challenges. And I think that diminishes the theocracy. And then you've got the professional political elite and you've got the professional military. It's opportunities. It's going to take time to make sure that the right players are empowered. And I think that's something also to be looked at in this MoU is it's dynamic, it's flexible, but it also could go a lot longer than 60 days in the implementation part. And Michael, you know our schedule in August, the president's not going to want a bomb. He's going to try to extend things till after November. And I think all bets are off after that.
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Michael Makofsky
Yeah. And I would add, if you don't mind, if I could quote from paragraph two of this MoU, it says both sides, the United States and Iran, undertake to respect each other's sovereignty and territorial integrity. And to refrain from interfering in each other's internal affairs. I think that was very unfortunate because I think President Trump, to his great credit on the first night of the war, basically called on the Iranian people after the hostilities would end to basically take care of their government. And I think we've already said we're not going to get involved in weakening this regime. And I think that's too bad because that's the only way we're really going to resolve all these nuclear issues, the proxies and so on, is if we undermine this regime even further.
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Brian Kilmeade
I hear you. Michael Bukovsky, thanks so much. Good luck in Israel. And hopefully people understand that this president will hit back when inevitably Iran starts violating everything they signed off on. Michael, thank you. When we come back, we're going to do a simulcast with Stuart Varney. And then on the back end of that, I'll be able to take your calls. Don't move. It's Brian Kilmeade.
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Charlie Hurt
Now.
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Brian Kilmeade
The Brian Kilmeade SHOW joins FOX businesses, Varney Co. With Stuart Varney live on your radio and on FOX Business. Here's Brian Kilmeade. Welcome back, everyone. We're going to be going on FBI and shortly we'll talk about what's happening now in downtown New York City. The Knicks, who are about attracting millions of people into the city to go to the Canyon of Heroes parade and they're going to give some speeches. Former Knicks will speak up and some celebrities will be there. But the real story is the average fan that can point back to generations and saying, look, I watched Patrick Ewing try to win a championship, Michael Jordan, Reggie Miller got in the way. You know, I watched Dave Dubusha win a championship and then go on the coach of the Knicks and Willis Retry the coach Knicks, they would not be able to bring them to a championship that Red Holdsman was able to do in 1973. Watch everyone from Larry Brown to excuse me, not Larry, yeah, Larry Brown to Isaiah Thomas try to do the same thing. It would not happen. They've had some great established coaches like Eub Brown come in, but they could not get over the hump. But Mike Brown did. And he's like Joe Torrey was a guy who is well respected in their sport at the NBA, but he's not wanting, he has not won anything. He's got to the final assistant coach with it with the Warriors. LeBron turns on him, gets him fired, just fired from the horrible Sacramento Kings. And the Knicks say, okay, we lost in the conference finals last year. So let's fire their coach and hire Mike Brown. They win a champion. Let's listen. We're taking a look at the parade. Is it true that some Knicks fans have paid 950 bucks to hold a good spot? Yeah, I mean, that's what I'm hearing right now. And by the way, that if you're. If you're going to a Knick game, you were probably paying $4,000 at minimum to go to that game, so you got 950 to go to the parade. It only makes sense. But, I mean, you people are bringing their kids. That's what I hope this ends up being. Should be a family event. I don't want to see the violence, the buses. I don't want to hear about 20 cops being hurt. And so far, when I see Stuart, me and you are working at the same time, it seems so far, so good.
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
Yeah.
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Brian Kilmeade
The Knicks will become the first NBA champion to visit Trump. Trump at the White House. Does that set up a little bit of political rivalry? Because Mandami is going to give the Knicks the keys to the city, and President Trump is going to entertain him at the White House. Both of them want to be in on the Knicks success, I think. Well, Mondami needs ethicity, and, you know, he's very fortuitous to be here when they win a championship. People might associate him both, even though he has nothing to do with it. But Donald Trump's been there longer. I mean, you could point to 1984 and see him on the sidelines of the Knick game in the celebrity row. He's been there forever. He spy, he's promoted, fights at Madison Square Garden. He's been friends with James Dolan forever. And it's going to be interesting to see how many Knicks show up. I know Mitchell Robinson in particular, seems to be a Donald Trump fan. The fantastic center did so much, especially in the fourth quarter, to shut down Wembanyama of San Antonio. I know he's going to go. I hope the gist of the team does go, because he's not asking him to vote for him. He's trying to say, man, this run was remarkable. I saw it up close. I know how hard the journey's been. Come on up here. You know, so there's a bunch of great stories. You don't show up at the White House because you voted for the president. What surprise. I'm not surprised by it, but I'm just. I like to see it. There's so many people down there in lower Manhattan. Our audience is seeing Shots now of really very big and very enthusiastic crowds. Nothing violent at all. I think this, this parade is drawing a lot of New Yorkers together. There's no question. And Stuart, you've seen it all, right? From the outside and inside. Now that you are a true New Yorker living in, living in the region. I won't give your exact address out, but I think the one thing that people really liked about this team, they win a championship. I got it. Patrick Ewing was considered one of the best teams of players of his generation. You know, you go back and you see the Knicks and Bill Bradley and Dave DeBusha and Willis Reed. Those guys are legends. Many in the hall of Fame. You put together this collection of players and prior to this you had Leon Rose go through his reign as GM600 separate transactions until they got the right mix of players. There's not one first team all star on a team that wins a championship in such dominating fashion. You just don't see that in professional sports anymore. Where stars go, okay, I made my money, now I'm going to go win my championship. And they go to a team. They pick out the team those days, this is not rent a star. This is not sign the highest ranking free agent. They go win a championship like you should. These are a bunch of guys who came together, are better collectively than individually that if you put them anywhere, they don't bring a championship together. They do. And you have a guy who led the team, who was a number two pick of the fill of the Dallas mavericks, who is 33rd overall. I think people like the 53 year gap. That's a great story. But I also think the run where they only lost one game after drop going down to one to the Hawks, two straight sweeps and then one in five. And I also think they like the fact that a 33, 33rd pick overall ends up being an unstoppable player at 62 without remarkable speed, without remarkable strength or horizontal or lateral or great, great jumping ability. He just gets it done. I think people like that family, that father, son story of Rick Brunson, the coach and his son being the star player. Yeah, it makes for great video. Love to see all those people happy in New York City. What a concept. Brian, thank you very much. See you again soon. It's also good you for business. Yes, because people go from the parade, they'll go to the deli, they'll go to the restaurant and they'll drink the beer at the same time. Going 25 miles away, if that in New Jersey, MetLife Stadium. You got World cup games, two a day. It's been pretty amazing in New York, although it seems to be the one venue where they got a real challenge with transportation because people don't want to pay 100 bucks to hop on a train. I don't blame them. Usually it's what, 12 to go, two stops, but now it's a little bit different. Meanwhile, the, the World cup, our team plays, the US Team plays tomorrow. They'll play against Australia.
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Charlie Hurt
Extremely.
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Brian Kilmeade
And we have Australian listeners. Extremely physical team, extremely fast team and on a roll. Tim Ream, the captain, was on After Hours with James Corden, who's doing a great job with the comedy show that he has at night to kind of wrap up things. He was having some fun with Tim Ream yesterday. Here he is talking about getting some advice. Get here's Tim Ream talking to James Corden, having some fun. Cut 40 Now, Tim, the next game is against Australia.
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Doug Schoen
It's good.
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Brian Kilmeade
I think it's going to be quite a test. They looked, they looked really, really great in their first game. It occurred to me when you very kindly agreed to do this for the show that you've actually got quite a Australian look about you, Right. And has Pochettino, has Pochettino thought about. Because I think if you put the hair down, right, maybe a pair of crocs, like a wide brim hat with some corks hanging off it, you could very easily make your way into the Australian locker room and be like, well, g', day, guys, one week off cooking. Like, has this been, has this been talked about within the camp that we could use that tactically? It has not been talked about that we could use it tactically.
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
It has been talked about that I
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Brian Kilmeade
do look a bit of a, of a beach bum surfer boy if I, if I put my hair down. So I, I tend to keep it up pretty regularly. And he does, and he's 38 years old and doing a great job as a center back. Brian Kilmeo, from high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sewing division, it's Brian Kilmeade.
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
All right.
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Brian Kilmeade
From 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan, heard around the country, around the world, where the Canyon of Heroes is entertaining the New York Knicks today, I'm happy to be telling you we are live. Kennedy is coming up at the bottom of the hour. She's host of Kennedy Saves the World podcast. Same woman you see all over the channel. And Doug Schoen is here, former Clinton adviser, Democratic strategist, pollster, worked intimately with the And a lot to do with the political success of Mayor Bloomberg. Doug Schoen's going to be with us in a matter of moments. But before we get to all that, let's get to the big three. Number three, take the random folks I met in Tennessee. I was standing outside an army, then they pointed me to a local barbecue place and I ended up having one of the best meals of my life. That is the U.S. aina. And I think that's what the World cup is showing a lot of Europeans. The headlines will show you a country, but Americans will show you America. Victor Vacheron, who's a comedian on Instagram, talking about what he's experienced as he's visiting the US to watch the World Cup. The mania is hot on and off the field. The world will see the real America and they seem to love it. The players provide incredible drama. And England wins yesterday 42 over Croatia. It might have been the best overall game so far. Now all of our focus in America. Game two against Australia tomorrow, 3:00pm kickoff in Seattle. Number two. Well, I think we're going to continue to see those oil prices come down and not just the futures prices. You're going to see the price that refineries are having to pay to get product in the door right now. Those prices are going to come down in the weeks and months ahead. Yup, there you go. That is the economy beginning to boom as oil drops, markets soar and interest rates stay flat. All of this and how it relates to the midterms as well as the Iran war.
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Charlie Hurt
Number one, it's a memorandum of understanding. If it doesn't get done in 60 days, it's all right, we go back to bombing. You know, I don't want to do that because it's so good, but we might have to because we're never going to let them have a nuclear weapon. Yep.
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Brian Kilmeade
The Iran Mou. Not, not a. Okay, we look at the 14 points that bring us to the 60 day window to get the comprehensive deal done with the terror state that has not changed its way. Oh, we're bringing you every angle. Even though we wiped out a couple of layers of their government, they seem to be just as menacing. What do you think about that? Doug Schoen joins us now. Doug, great to see you.
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Doug Schoen
Good to see you, Brian.
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Brian Kilmeade
First off, as I know you have a great foreign, great knowledge of foreign policy, passionate for to fix Central and South America. You wrote your book on Venezuela. I don't love this 14 point mou, do you?
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Doug Schoen
No, I don't. I am one of those. And I suspect we in general terms, if not specific terms, agree that I thought giving all the time that was involved, Brian, Trump should have hit them harder and more often, I think we would have gotten a better deal. But let's hope this works out. I think we have to be positive and optimistic and make it clear that they cannot enrich uranium, they cannot get a nuclear weapon and they cannot menace the Straits of Hormuz and indeed other Arab nations.
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Brian Kilmeade
I worry about the funding of the terror states, the terror proxies.
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Doug Schoen
Yes.
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Brian Kilmeade
So they're, they're going to get money now because they're selling oil and then they eventually could get $300 billion and eventually get through it, have access to that free money and then they have their own frozen money of 100 billion. Why would we finance this terrorist state unless they prove themselves? And Doug, they've never proven themselves.
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Doug Schoen
As Trump said in 2020, Brian, they lose wars and win negotiations. And I'm afraid that may well have happened here. I hope it's not true. I fear it maybe.
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Brian Kilmeade
But this is what I think is going to happen. I think he's going and end up going back in November. Here he is. Cut one.
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Charlie Hurt
It's a memorandum of understanding. If it doesn't get done in 60 days, that's all right. We go back to bombing. You know, I don't want to do that because, because it's so good. But we might have to because we're never going to let them have a nuclear weapon. But they've agreed not to. And you'll see that very clearly in the agreement.
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Brian Kilmeade
So we'll see. And let's say they don't. But they can't have nuclear power either. The president seems to be a little bit confused on that, saying, well, if they want nuclear, but they can't, they can have nuclear power if they want to enrich outside the country.
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Doug Schoen
And frankly, I don't want them doing any enrichment anywhere anyway, anyhow. They are, as you correctly point out, a terrorist state that has financed Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthi rebels. They are one of the great sources of discord and danger in our world today.
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Brian Kilmeade
I want you to hear what you hewitt said yesterday. Cut 12. Yeah, I was a little surprised, honestly. I mean, we literally had our foot on their throat militarily, economically. I'm sorry, 22. That was my bad. Unpredictability is Donald Trump's calling card.
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Victor Davis Hanson
I think the world knows that. The Iranians know that.
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Brian Kilmeade
So I do think they have that fear.
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
John.
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Brian Kilmeade
I am reminded In October of 1972, Henry Kissinger declared pieces at hand.
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Victor Davis Hanson
And then at the Christmas time, Richard
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Brian Kilmeade
Nixon bombed the Living Daylights out of hand Illinois because they had not progressed from October 27th to December 15th. And so we got their attention again. I think Donald Trump is very capable of doing the same thing. And certainly he sent that message today. And I think people don't believe Donald Trump at their peril, especially if they're Iranians. So there you go. That's true. Donald Trump is unpredictable. Unpredictable. And he's the only president to really take the fight then now twice, three times if you take the taking out of Soleimani, then in 2025, the Midnight Hammer and then this Operation Fury. But I want to talk about something else that you wrote a column about. And that is one of the best assets the Republicans seem to have is the Democratic Party, that when they do make mistakes, politically or economically or militarily, the Democrats seem to be intent on making sure they stay in power by the candidates they're putting forward, most of which have socialist, anti Israel and seem almost anti American. And we're seeing that with the candidate in Michigan going against Mike Rogers. It looks like El said, we're seeing with Platner over in Maine, and now we're seeing it in New York City as this socialist mayor is getting behind two socialist candidates, primary established Democrats in this city. Do you want to build on that?
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Doug Schoen
Yeah. I think this is an existential threat to my party because as we go left, we alienate ourselves from the electorate. Democratic primary voters, a small segment of the Democratic electorate, tend to be more left and progressive than the mainstream of my party. But if we move hard left with Platner, El said, the two Democrats in New York who are running as unabashed and unapologetic socialists, we run the risk of marginalizing a party that should, I underscore, should win, certainly the House and potentially the Senate. And this could cost us the Senate.
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Brian Kilmeade
Why is it resonating? Why are they so hot? Why do they get so much money? What about the dsa? Why do they seem to be emerging as more powerful than the dnc?
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Doug Schoen
It's again, a very good question. There's a lot of anger and animist in the country. On the right, it takes the form of the ultra MAGA movement and related causes. On the left, it's the dsa, the socialists, those that are angry, as Bernie Sanders and AOC say, about the billionaires, the billionaire class. And they have a good argument, at least for that narrow segment of primary voters. Who are angry and enraged with, with how life in America is going. And they feel, I think, wrongly, but they feel passionately socialism's the answer.
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Brian Kilmeade
So the core policies promoted higher taxes on the wealthy, expand social programs and public services even though most municipalities are buried in debt. Stronger tenant protections and affordable housing initiatives. Okay, affordable housing initiatives. It's always good to have some initiatives there. But to get to not use the private sector is a problem. Also, to clamp down on, on rents and saying landlords are the bad guys without looking at the math, I think is an issue. Reducing US military involvement overseas, ending or significantly restricting US military aid to Israel. That seems to be a common theme.
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Doug Schoen
Yes. I mean, if you look at what Graham Platner said and El said have said, they basically believe that Israel has committed genocide in Gaza, that it should get no military aid, rather than being a stable democratic ally, which is what I believe and I think you believe as well about Israel. They see Israel as a pariah state or maybe even an apartheid state.
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Brian Kilmeade
Immigration reforms include abolishing or replacing ice. And I think they're too scared, even they're too scared to say open up the border. But it reminds me of what Joe Biden did for four years prior. He basically opened up the border and denied doing it, which I thought was worse.
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Doug Schoen
I completely agree. They're focusing on ICE and they're in arguable overreaching in some jurisdictions, not all, but some. And that becomes their focus and that's how they promote an open borders policy. Couldn't agree more, Brian.
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Brian Kilmeade
So Doug, you point out in your column that in Maine the generic ballot has Susan Collins underwater by 10. When you put her against Platner, he's up by one or two. So it's showing that generally overall, forget about the fact that Doug Schon thinks that center left is better than extreme left politically. You're right. That's what the polls seem to say. Congratulations. Win the semifinals, you have a harder shot at winning the finals.
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Doug Schoen
That's exactly right. But a harder shot for winning the finals because you're changing the rules of the game and you're playing a game that the vast majority of the players don't want to be part of. Given this socialist redistributive spending and taxing spree the DSA is on.
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Brian Kilmeade
I mean, take a look at what happened in Michigan. Mike Rogers loses by a very small margin against a so called center left candidate. And now El Said is looking to fill an empty seat in Michigan. And Rogers is running again, this time unopposed, ready to Go more experienced, almost like Dave McCormick in Pennsylvania, lost to Fetterman. Excuse me, lost to Dr. Oz, who lost to Fetterman. When the other seat he takes on an established candidate, he was a better candidate. Now Rogers coming on with me Sunday at On One Nation. But don't you think if El Said holds on to that and gets wins that primary, a guy that wants to defund Israel, defund the police, defund ICE and hang out with Hasan Piker who is just an extremist podcaster, don't you think that makes Rogers pathway to victory easier?
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Doug Schoen
Well, Democrats who think like me, Brian, cannot and will not vote for El Said, period. Haley, Stevens, McMorrow, the two other Democrats are broadly speaking acceptable. I might have disagreements with them, but I could support them. Can't support this guy. He represents everything I think is wrong for the Democrats, but more important wrong for America.
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Brian Kilmeade
So you point out too that you know, where's Nancy Pelosi? I mean, I'm not a Nancy Pelosi fan, but she's not a socialist. Where is Hillary Clinton? I didn't Bill Clinton, rather. Bill Clinton is not a socialist, right?
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Doug Schoen
No.
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Brian Kilmeade
Barack Obama loves Mondami. I mean, to me everyone says that shows what he's really like. But instead of saying guys, this is trouble for us, I had success eight years in office. I was Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Instead of saying that, it takes Doug Schoen, who was their pollster and aide and adviser, to say it, where are the established politicians saying, I don't like the direction of my party?
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Doug Schoen
Brian, it's a very important question. Cuz the one thing the left is very good at is attacking disproportionately its critics. Obviously I'm not their favorite person, but the Clintons, Obama, they don't want to fight at this point in their life. The path of least resistance is either to ignore the far left or embrace them where they can. And either way it creates more problems and issues for my party.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, well, I'll see what happens. Platter things. Very interesting. AOC is picking and choosing her spots, even though she's left wing. Do you believe she's running for president or senator?
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Doug Schoen
I do. I think from everything she's done, the money she's raised, the traveling she's done, she's basically floating a trial balloon now. She's running about 10% in the polls, running maybe, you know, a close third in the polls. Nobody has really gotten traction. She has a base and she has issues. They're not my issues. And I don't think they're winning issues, but they could be in a primary and with Bernie's backing, she could be a compelling candidate.
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Brian Kilmeade
Hillary Clinton went to the 92nd Y and said this about Bill. Joe Biden cut 38. When you look back on his decision to run, did he make a terrible mistake?
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Kennedy
He made a terrible mistake. He made a terrible mistake for himself, his legacy and for the country. He had said that he would not run again. And, you know, counterfactual narratives are always a bit tricky. But I believe if he had kept to that plan and said in, say, the late summer of 23 that he wasn't going to run, that he was going to pass, you know, the torch to the next generation, we would have had a real contest.
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Brian Kilmeade
So that's interesting.
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Charlie Hurt
It's true.
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Brian Kilmeade
But here's what she actually said after his debate debacle. Cut 39.
- [89:02]
Kennedy
Do you think the questions about his age are legitimate? Well, the question's legitimate, but the conclusion that people draw is, I think, off base. Look, I am supporting President Biden and Vice President Harris because of what they've gotten accomplished.
- [89:20]
Brian Kilmeade
I'm kind of old fashioned that way. So come on, Doug, what does she stand for real quick? I mean, anyone could beat up on Biden. Now, where was her guts then?
- [89:32]
Doug Schoen
I don't know, Brian. She has always been somebody, in my experience who floats with where she thinks public opinion is, which is one of the reasons why I think she is not on the national level, had the success she wanted to or that her husband has had. I think she is clearly willing to change what she says. I also was taken by what Jill Biden said when she thought her husband was having a stroke. You would have thought if you think your husband's having a stroke in a debate, you would encourage him to seek medical care and not run for reelection. But, you know, that's obviously not what happened.
- [90:14]
Brian Kilmeade
Yep, the Waffle House was open, so she brought him there right afterwards. Doug Schoen, thanks so much. Check out his column. Where do we get? Is that on fox news.com? it is fox news.com right now. Doug, thank you. Back in a moment.
- [90:28]
Doug Schoen
Don't move, Brian, as always.
- [90:29]
Brian Kilmeade
You got it. You're with Brian Kilmeade.
- [90:41]
Senator Tommy Tuberville
Information.
- [90:42]
Brian Kilmeade
You want truth, you demand. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. One thing I'm loving about the World cup is seeing everyday American people finally get their moment in the spotlight. Seeing the way you've welcomed the Scots in Boston, the Algerian folks in Kansas, the Dutch in Texas. It's just been beautiful seeing all this all over my for you page and in the international press has been just honestly such a breath of fresh air. Because for once, just once, the leads story isn't intentionally divisive politics or celebrities or some manufactured rage bait on the Internet. It's just everyday American people being themselves, kind, welcoming and yeah, a little confused at our food choices. These are the real people, like the people who are actually the fabric of the country. Victor Vacheron, who's an English comedian walking around doing some Instagram postings. But it's very similar to what we're seeing all around. People having a great time.
- [91:41]
Senator Tommy Tuberville
Time.
- [91:41]
Brian Kilmeade
Yo listen to. Oh, we probably don't have time here, but I'm going to listen to it on the other side before we're done in the next half hour. I mean, you got the Japanese and stadiums after they're done with the game. I think the Japanese tied their first game. They got trash bags and started picking up in between the rows. They're having a great time in the city. Remarkably neat. It's just unbelievable to see the stereotypes, none of them negative, museum positive and every culture living up to their stereotype. You know, you Scottish take drink a lot. Yeah, you want to watch them. They actually drank Boston out of beer. But they're fun, a lot of fun. From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Kilmeade. All right, there you go. Kennedy is under my rundown. She is the host of Kennedy Saves the World podcast. And turns out she showed up and she's wearing. If you're not watching the stream, you're missing out. You're missing out because you are wearing a national team jersey.
- [92:43]
Kennedy
That's right.
- [92:44]
Brian Kilmeade
And it's. I like that people are giving me pushback on the jersey, saying it's not good. I think it's perfect.
- [92:49]
Kennedy
I love it.
- [92:50]
Brian Kilmeade
And it's wavy.
- [92:50]
Kennedy
Not only is it cool, it, it looks good on the pitch, right?
- [92:55]
Brian Kilmeade
You were pumped up for the World cup, but you always were pumped.
- [92:57]
Kennedy
I love the World Cup. Cup, yeah. So we have, we have this, this ongoing debate every four years because my daughter is named Pele. She's named after the soccer player. My ex husband is now saying, no, she's named after the fire goddess because the fire goddess in Hawaii is Pele. And I'm like, no, that's not true. Like, in fact, when I was pregnant, I went around telling people she's not named after the fire goddess goddess. And when she was born, I was like, not the fire goddess. And. And now he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, it's Fire Goddess.
- [93:31]
Brian Kilmeade
I'm like, okay, is this why you divorced him?
- [93:33]
Kennedy
This is it.
- [93:34]
Charlie Hurt
This is it.
- [93:34]
Brian Kilmeade
This is really. And then you just. You held your ground.
- [93:37]
Kennedy
Right.
- [93:38]
Doug Schoen
Look at me.
- [93:38]
Brian Kilmeade
A lot of times they say that kids can Very limited patience.
- [93:41]
Charlie Hurt
But.
- [93:42]
Brian Kilmeade
But this is directly.
- [93:43]
Victor Davis Hanson
I mean, this is.
- [93:44]
Brian Kilmeade
This is a kid breaking up the marriage by name.
- [93:46]
Kennedy
Yeah. Hope you're happy.
- [93:48]
Doug Schoen
So.
- [93:48]
Brian Kilmeade
Yeah. And how does she feel about this?
- [93:50]
Kennedy
So she's now like, team Fire Goddess. And I'm like, are you kidding me? Like, we went into a subway in 2014 during the World cup, and there was a massive cutout of Pele, who at the time was in his late 70s. And I was like, that's who you're named after. And she was like, oh, my God. Because, you know, she didn't.
- [94:10]
Brian Kilmeade
She didn't understand.
- [94:12]
Kennedy
Yeah. And I have since bought her a signed Pele jersey from when he was on the Cosmos.
- [94:19]
Charlie Hurt
So.
- [94:19]
Brian Kilmeade
Do you realize when he went on the Cosmos, you're like, oh, he was so old. Like 80. No, he was at 33. He just retired. That's still the prime of your career.
- [94:27]
Kennedy
Really is.
- [94:28]
Brian Kilmeade
I mean, Tom Brady was still learning the playbook at that age.
- [94:31]
Kennedy
He was still deflating balls, Right?
- [94:32]
Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, that's right. He got caught four years later, he did more on that.
- [94:36]
Charlie Hurt
Can you.
- [94:37]
Brian Kilmeade
You want to expand on that story now? I don't think it's appropriate.
- [94:40]
Kennedy
I don't think Giselle wants me to expand on that.
- [94:42]
Brian Kilmeade
I don't think Giselle wants anything to do with Tom Brady's balls.
- [94:45]
Kennedy
Nope. Not anymore.
- [94:46]
Charlie Hurt
Not anymore.
- [94:47]
Brian Kilmeade
At one point, that's all she talked about. Couldn't shut her up. Right. Blah, blah, blah in Brazilian, Portuguese.
- [94:54]
Kennedy
Brazilian. She speaks that devil's tongue known as Brazilian.
- [94:58]
Brian Kilmeade
So what I'm loving.
- [94:59]
Kennedy
I always thought it was so weird that she has a German last name but was raised in South America. Were there other Germans who, I don't know, relocated to South America at some point?
- [95:11]
Brian Kilmeade
Yes, I think they did. They hid out for a while.
- [95:14]
Kennedy
I mean, I know you're the historian, Right. I just heard some things.
- [95:18]
Brian Kilmeade
You know, when we got to the Nazi club, a lot of them were gone, and they went to Argentina. Brazil.
- [95:25]
Kennedy
Oh, Brazil. Really?
- [95:27]
Brian Kilmeade
And I heard that. Remember Trotsky. And you remember this like it was yesterday. Remember Trotsky and Stalin had a bit of a rivalry.
- [95:34]
Kennedy
Yeah.
- [95:34]
Brian Kilmeade
Like, who's gonna run the place now that Lenin's in a tomb.
- [95:37]
Kennedy
Yeah.
- [95:37]
Brian Kilmeade
By the way, at any moment, he could pop right out of that glass case.
- [95:40]
Kennedy
You never know.
- [95:40]
Brian Kilmeade
And he'd be really Shocked by the Internet as well as AI and how little his country has progressed.
- [95:46]
Kennedy
Like, I woke up for this.
- [95:48]
Brian Kilmeade
Yes.
- [95:48]
Kennedy
Taking our jobs.
- [95:49]
Brian Kilmeade
We're fighting Ukraine. So I didn't plan on talking about Lenin because. Do you have any sound of Lenin, Eric? No, we don't. Okay, forget it. Cut four, right? No, just play cut four. I think it's Lenin. So he had a little robbery. Stalin takes over. Trotsky loses. So Stalin not convinced at Trotsky's not coming back. Found him in Central America, put an ax in the back of his head.
- [96:12]
Senator Tommy Tuberville
Oof.
- [96:12]
Brian Kilmeade
You can't support.
- [96:13]
Kennedy
Sure. That wasn't Pete Hegseth?
- [96:14]
Brian Kilmeade
No, no. That we should tell people. Pete, when he was host of Fox and Friends weekend, was doing axe throwing
- [96:22]
Kennedy
as a fun on camera activity.
- [96:24]
Brian Kilmeade
Yes. Why do I have to qualify so much of what you said?
- [96:27]
Kennedy
Got a little overexcited.
- [96:28]
Brian Kilmeade
Yeah. And threw it. And missed.
- [96:31]
Kennedy
Went over the target.
- [96:32]
Brian Kilmeade
Yes.
- [96:33]
Kennedy
And might have nicked the hand of a member of the marching band who was about to serenade the crew.
- [96:38]
Brian Kilmeade
He was down. So they had to go without a bass drum.
- [96:41]
Senator Tommy Tuberville
Right.
- [96:42]
Brian Kilmeade
And a little bit of a bleed.
- [96:44]
Kennedy
Not quite the same.
- [96:45]
Brian Kilmeade
Right. So what was I saying? True.
- [96:47]
Kennedy
Trotsky back in the head acts.
- [96:49]
Brian Kilmeade
Giselle Bunchen. She's happy. I'm sure she's happy with the jiu Jitsu guy.
- [96:53]
Kennedy
Yeah, sure.
- [96:54]
Senator Tommy Tuberville
Right.
- [96:55]
Brian Kilmeade
Poor Tom Brady. Things haven't really broken for him.
- [96:57]
Doug Schoen
No, he.
- [96:58]
Kennedy
He hasn't. The poor guy ended up in a long term relationship. He's. He's tied to a lot of sexy starlets and models.
- [97:05]
Michael Makofsky
Right.
- [97:06]
Kennedy
But they're blabbermouths and he's private.
- [97:08]
Brian Kilmeade
You telling me.
- [97:09]
Kennedy
Yeah, that's right, Brian. You know.
- [97:13]
Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, I've been down that road.
- [97:15]
Michael Makofsky
Not yet.
- [97:16]
Brian Kilmeade
They don't even know where the road is. But no, Tom Brady's life couldn't be. I think Tom Brady's happier. He's got his family and he's got a soccer team. He's got a football team.
- [97:25]
Kennedy
He's got a football team.
- [97:26]
Brian Kilmeade
He's got the best broadcasting contract. Very similar to mine. $500 million. $500 million. And he has to do everything when he wants.
- [97:33]
Kennedy
Yeah.
- [97:34]
Charlie Hurt
Right.
- [97:35]
Brian Kilmeade
So, okay, where were we? Oh, let's talk soccer. What I'm loving is what's on the field is great. But I love off the field. People seem to be loving our country.
- [97:45]
Senator Tommy Tuberville
Here's.
- [97:45]
Brian Kilmeade
Here's Fox 4 over in Dallas talking to some Japanese fans.
- [97:49]
Michael Makofsky
I Love this.
- [97:49]
Brian Kilmeade
Cut 44.
- [97:51]
Michael Makofsky
Nice to meet you.
- [97:52]
Doug Schoen
Okay.
- [97:53]
Brian Kilmeade
My name is.
- [97:54]
Kennedy
Okay, yeah.
- [97:55]
Brian Kilmeade
My name Is Hirochika Nakakuki.
- [97:58]
Charlie Hurt
Oh, wow.
- [97:59]
Victor Davis Hanson
Okay.
- [98:00]
Doug Schoen
Yes.
- [98:00]
Brian Kilmeade
It's limited. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How excited are you?
- [98:02]
Michael Makofsky
You.
- [98:02]
Brian Kilmeade
You were so excited, right? Japan, right? Excuse me.
- [98:06]
Senator Tommy Tuberville
Okay.
- [98:07]
Brian Kilmeade
I cannot speak English, but okay. But I'm excited. That's the most.
- [98:16]
Kennedy
I love it so much.
- [98:17]
Brian Kilmeade
Eric, that was the most vacuous sound bite you have ever pulled. There was nothing.
- [98:22]
Kennedy
Was that Trotsky?
- [98:23]
Brian Kilmeade
Huh? That was. No, no, not Trotsky. He would not. He was worried about Stalin hunting him down. He would not get in front of a camera.
- [98:29]
Charlie Hurt
Camera.
- [98:30]
Brian Kilmeade
So that was on Fox 4. But that just shows him having fun.
- [98:32]
Kennedy
Yes.
- [98:33]
Brian Kilmeade
By the way, you can't say in English, I don't speak English. No speak English.
- [98:37]
Kennedy
So in. In Japan, they're very, very self conscious about their English. And every Japanese student learns English for several years. But when you go to Japan and you ask for directions, they will wave you off because they don't want to embarrass themselves. Like it's really important for them. Did you go to Japan? I've been to Japan several times. Yeah. Big fan. I love it.
- [98:56]
Brian Kilmeade
How long a ride is that?
- [98:57]
Kennedy
It's from New York. I think it's 11 hours. Yeah.
- [99:02]
Brian Kilmeade
In the air.
- [99:04]
Kennedy
Not by boat, Brian. Yeah, that would be. That'd be quite a speedboat.
- [99:08]
Charlie Hurt
Right?
- [99:08]
Kennedy
I can see that.
- [99:09]
Brian Kilmeade
It would definitely, definitely be something you'd have to have. Wear one of those special wristbands that they give you on cruises because of the waves. Here's.
- [99:18]
Kennedy
But the most predictable thing in the world is would have been for people to come over here and just crap all over the United States.
- [99:24]
Brian Kilmeade
Everything's commercialized. They ruined the spirit of the World Cup. It's just the Americans are rude.
- [99:29]
Kennedy
Their restaurants are lame. Their food is processed. And they're like, oh, my God, I get a free bowl of chips and salsa when I sit down at a Mexican place.
- [99:39]
Brian Kilmeade
They go. They go and play at Cowboys Stadium. I forgot the name of it. And they go, air conditioning. I'm like, can we just go over there with Freon? You'd be the most popular guy in London.
- [99:47]
Kennedy
Air conditioning and ice. They cannot believe that you get to go over to a machine and put your own ice in your cup and you can fill up a gallon.
- [99:57]
Brian Kilmeade
They just can't believe refills. Right? So here's more from NBC. They're with. They're over in Boston. Listen to Scottish fans. Cup 46.
- [100:04]
Senator Tommy Tuberville
There was no beer.
- [100:06]
Michael Makofsky
The Scots fans just drunk the place dry.
- [100:08]
Brian Kilmeade
And all they had was like Bud Light.
- [100:10]
Kennedy
If your favorite beer is missing from A tap.
- [100:13]
Brian Kilmeade
We've never seen anything like it.
- [100:14]
Kennedy
There's a decent chance Scotland had something to do with it. Sam Adams downtown ran out of their signature Boston lager over the weekend and needed an emergency delivery to keep up with World cup fans. And they're not the only ones running dry.
- [100:28]
Brian Kilmeade
Pretty much everything we ran out of
- [100:29]
Victor Davis Hanson
tenants being number one.
- [100:30]
Kennedy
White Bull Tavern may have run out of Scotland's iconic tenants beer. But that didn't stop the party.
- [100:36]
Victor Davis Hanson
Fans have been unbelievable.
- [100:37]
Michael Makofsky
They're great.
- [100:38]
Victor Davis Hanson
They're fun.
- [100:39]
Brian Kilmeade
They drink and party and having a great time. So you have a drinking kilts for obvious reasons cuz it might get some spillage on it. You have a dress kilt. So you always have two kilts. The Dubliner has also been hopping. But we had our biggest week ever last week. And it's the one place Scots can
- [100:54]
Kennedy
still find their tenants.
- [100:55]
Brian Kilmeade
Lager managed to plan ahead and get an extra delivery last Saturday. And I was told yesterday the distributor has run out also. So this is a tragedy in the most fun way.
- [101:06]
Victor Davis Hanson
Boston.
- [101:06]
Kennedy
And by the way, Boston is a drinking town.
- [101:09]
Senator Tommy Tuberville
Yeah.
- [101:10]
Kennedy
Not a big college town, but it is a drinking town. And. And the Scots have just done Yeoman's work. They're very impressive. They just seem like the funnest fans I know in all of World Cup.
- [101:22]
Brian Kilmeade
It's not one of those groups that gets drunk and then gets an edge on them and starts wrecking things. No, they're not Hulu. They just keep singing.
- [101:29]
Kennedy
Yeah.
- [101:29]
Michael Makofsky
And.
- [101:29]
Brian Kilmeade
And by the way, and I was telling this to Allison before, for guys, people that drink all the time, they don't look bad.
- [101:34]
Kennedy
No, they look good Scottish. They're. They're hearty.
- [101:37]
Charlie Hurt
Right.
- [101:37]
Kennedy
You can take our beer, but you'll never take our freedom. I think that's what William Wallace said.
- [101:43]
Brian Kilmeade
Right. Or Mel Gibson said that. William Wallace said it in the movie Braveheart. Which by the way, did not end. Finally found out what drawn and quartered meant.
- [101:53]
Kennedy
It's not something they do in art class.
- [101:54]
Doug Schoen
Right.
- [101:55]
Brian Kilmeade
They actually take out your organs just because he tried to take over their country.
- [101:59]
Kennedy
Yeah.
- [102:00]
Brian Kilmeade
Or he wanted their freedom.
- [102:01]
Kennedy
Yeah.
- [102:01]
Brian Kilmeade
Never worked out.
- [102:03]
Doug Schoen
Yeah.
- [102:03]
Kennedy
That's why it's in the constitution. Like cruel and unusual punishment is not really
- [102:11]
Brian Kilmeade
right. That would qualify. Yeah. I'd rather take go to prison for a year than give up my gallbladder. That's perfectly healthy. Healthy. Or my pancreas.
- [102:19]
Kennedy
You can't. You can't live without your pancreas. You can live without your gallbladder.
- [102:22]
Brian Kilmeade
I think the goal is not for you to live. Right.
- [102:25]
Kennedy
Oh, if they're taking out like important organs. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [102:29]
Brian Kilmeade
So we never see that part of it, but we get. We can imagine it, but I don't want to give away the ending. But Scotland doesn't get their freedom. But they did win their first game, which is amazing.
- [102:38]
Senator John Houston
Right.
- [102:38]
Kennedy
I saw that Friday night, Saturday night I was in South Carolina. I was getting ready to watch the Knicks.
- [102:45]
Brian Kilmeade
I only watched one European game and it was something like the Kuwaiti cup or something like that. And it was in England and it was Celtic that played against Manchester United.
- [102:56]
Kennedy
Cool.
- [102:56]
Brian Kilmeade
And the fans were absolutely insane. And they were more important. It's the only time where I think the fans are more important than the team.
- [103:04]
Kennedy
Yes.
- [103:05]
Brian Kilmeade
Like the fans go, you're just going to be here for a few years. We're not going anywhere. They realize we are, are. We are the group.
- [103:13]
Senator Tommy Tuberville
Yeah. Right.
- [103:14]
Kennedy
Manchester. I. I saw a game in Munich. I saw Bayern. It was amazing. And Sadio Mane is from Senegal and he played against. Was it France yesterday?
- [103:27]
Brian Kilmeade
Yes. No, no.
- [103:28]
Michael Makofsky
Yeah.
- [103:28]
Brian Kilmeade
France beat them three one.
- [103:29]
Kennedy
Yeah. That's two days ago.
- [103:31]
Brian Kilmeade
Mbappe.
- [103:32]
Kennedy
Yes.
- [103:33]
Brian Kilmeade
Almost had a penalty kick. They reviewed it. Said he didn't.
- [103:35]
Senator Tommy Tuberville
He.
- [103:36]
Brian Kilmeade
I love the way they punish people that take dives now. Yeah, I think that's great.
- [103:39]
Kennedy
That's okay. He. He also scored two goals.
- [103:42]
Brian Kilmeade
Right. If that switches. That. Is that how we're keeping score now?
- [103:46]
Kennedy
Apparently, yes. That is actually how they keep score.
- [103:49]
Brian Kilmeade
Okay, so it's not even a phrase.
- [103:50]
Kennedy
Goals that matter.
- [103:51]
Brian Kilmeade
Yeah. Okay. It's not like. Is that. Well, it's not how I judge.
- [103:54]
Charlie Hurt
No, no.
- [103:55]
Brian Kilmeade
I do judge it that way.
- [103:56]
Michael Makofsky
So.
- [103:57]
Brian Kilmeade
Okay. So the US tomorrow will break that down. Also, when we come back, the Knicks are having a parade. Oh, yeah, right. And you're feeling about the Knicks is.
- [104:04]
Kennedy
It's my secondary team. I'm not like a Knicks tried and true fan. I'm a Portland Trailblazers fan. But I love that they're doing really well. I don't like the Mets. I love the Yankees. I like the Knicks.
- [104:18]
Brian Kilmeade
Okay, back in a moment. Increasing your intelligence quotient.
- [104:23]
Senator Tommy Tuberville
What the hell did you just say?
- [104:24]
Brian Kilmeade
It's Brian Kilmeade. A talk show.
- [104:35]
Victor Davis Hanson
That.
- [104:35]
Michael Makofsky
That's real.
- [104:36]
Brian Kilmeade
This is the Brian Kilmeade Show. Hey, welcome back, everybody. It's funny. The vice president, United States is playing the role of Caroline Levitt, the press secretary. And he's good at it, you know, he's very personable with his book tour. His book called Communion. He stole my title.
- [104:54]
Kennedy
Yeah.
- [104:55]
Brian Kilmeade
He did so. So he talks about his journey. It's a. It's a big biography. They say he does. Kennedy is here. Kennedy, he does talk about himself. And one big mistake that he made that's getting a lot of publicity. He said the Democratic Party is run by a bunch of childless cat ladies. He said I should never said that. Said it multiple times. So you have anything to confess?
- [105:14]
Michael Makofsky
Do you have.
- [105:15]
Brian Kilmeade
Have you made any mistakes? Do you want to use this time to say that anything, or do you want to wait for your book to come out?
- [105:21]
Kennedy
Yeah, I used organic vegetable shortening instead of butter in my choc chip cookie recipe a while back, and I regret that.
- [105:29]
Michael Makofsky
That Right.
- [105:29]
Brian Kilmeade
And do people. When. When asked, did you deny it?
- [105:34]
Kennedy
I didn't deny it, but I tried to change the subject and I said yes. But the extra dark chocolate chips sure are good at antioxidation.
- [105:43]
Brian Kilmeade
Right?
- [105:44]
Kennedy
Am I right?
- [105:45]
Brian Kilmeade
Well, this is going to get clipped and they're going to show. This is going to go viral. Not only my question, but your answer went down. So I know what you were saying. What is baseball doing for Pride Night? Were you thinking that for Pride month? Yes or no?
- [106:00]
Kennedy
Yeah, I was really worried about it.
- [106:02]
Brian Kilmeade
So they're doing a lesson I've always liked. What?
- [106:05]
Kennedy
Pride, Anything.
- [106:06]
Senator Tommy Tuberville
Right.
- [106:06]
Kennedy
When it's like sprinkled, when it's like, oh, here's a flag here or there and like, we see you.
- [106:11]
Senator Tommy Tuberville
Yeah.
- [106:12]
Kennedy
And I'm like, oh, that's nice. But it's like when you run afoul of that in any way, and they go, you're a bigot if you go, maybe I'll put a Bible verse on
- [106:22]
Brian Kilmeade
my hat like the San Francisco Giants did.
- [106:24]
Kennedy
Yeah.
- [106:24]
Brian Kilmeade
In summary, so Roger Clemens was asked about that putting things on your hat and why this is controversial because the league said, if you don't take that Bible verse off your hat, we're going to suspend. You will find you. And now that created controversy because a lot of these guys religiously, because there's religions that say heterosexuals are the best. I think that's one of the commandments. Yeah, it's the 11th. Well, 14th.
- [106:46]
Kennedy
11th.
- [106:46]
Brian Kilmeade
Right. I mean, everyone focuses on the 10, but I think it's the other ones. So here's Roger Clemens, cut 47. You see how educated the fans are, the soccer fans, they know being in AT&T or Cowboy Stadium, whatever they're calling it now. He mentioned they have ac. I mean, it's going to be a little different. I think it'll be a factor in Miami, you know, with the heat that's
- [107:07]
Senator Tommy Tuberville
going on down there.
- [107:07]
Brian Kilmeade
But yeah, the pride, you know, like I said, it comes around for us during the Olympics. For me, when I think about waving
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
the flag and having the pride that the Americans have.
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Brian Kilmeade
But it's really crazy watching these guys out here. Okay. That was different type of pride. I regret if we weren't live.
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Kennedy
Yeah.
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Brian Kilmeade
I would edit that out. So that really had nothing.
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Kennedy
Yeah, he wasn't talking about gay pride, but he was talking about like patriotism. Right.
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Brian Kilmeade
But in a different sound bite with the same Will Kane.
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Kennedy
Yeah, our Will Kane.
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Charlie Hurt
Right.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah. He said, you know, not Dean Cain's brother. They could be. They look nothing alike.
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Kennedy
Not even a little.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, I think that Dean Cain has got another type of ethnic heritage background. I don't know what it is.
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Kennedy
White.
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Michael Makofsky
Heard of that.
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Doug Schoen
Okay.
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Brian Kilmeade
But Roger comes in a different talked about pride. He didn't want to wear that on his hat, so. But I digress. Now, what do you want to talk about?
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Kennedy
I bought my sexy teenage fiance the coolest cap for Father's Day. It's a New York Yankees red, white and blue cap with 250 on the side.
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Brian Kilmeade
Right. You said your teenage fiance.
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Kennedy
Yeah, right. He's 20 now, so. Right, I have to stop saying that.
- [108:20]
Brian Kilmeade
So. But it's true. I mean, sometimes people grow up quick.
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Kennedy
Exactly. Right. He's so emotionally mature. Very soft hands.
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Brian Kilmeade
Didn't they have that story about when it was like a 10th grader fell in love with his teacher. They ended up getting married and it worked out.
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
Right.
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Kennedy
Emmanuel Macron and his husband. I mean, wife. Oh, Lord, I red faced.
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Brian Kilmeade
Right.
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Kennedy
I believe Brigitte Macron is a woman.
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Senator John Houston
Woman.
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Brian Kilmeade
No, very controversial. Take something Lugorne.
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Kennedy
Oh, Mary Kay Letourneau.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, Letourneau.
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Kennedy
That was not a 10th grader.
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Victor Davis Hanson
What was it?
- [108:52]
Kennedy
That was a sixth grader.
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
What?
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Kennedy
Yeah, yeah.
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Brian Kilmeade
No, I'm really outraged.
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Kennedy
Yeah, she died.
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Brian Kilmeade
How?
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Victor Davis Hanson
Related to this bong?
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Kennedy
Like breaking news. Brian, let's cut in with this. Yeah, she died of cancer maybe eight years ago. Did it work out with V? Full out. They had a few kids. Kids. But then they split up because. Yeah, she got old.
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Charlie Hurt
Right.
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Brian Kilmeade
You get a certain age. But by the way, she, Macron and the President and the rest of the world got along with the G7. Remember Greenland? Just because we're taking Greenland, everyone got bent out of shape. Remember the Irish were going to send 10 people over to take it back.
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Doug Schoen
Sure.
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Brian Kilmeade
Remember, it was irreparably damaged. Doesn't seem to matter, people.
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Kennedy
Why not send the Scots?
- [109:37]
Brian Kilmeade
Right. You're ready. But. But, I mean, it didn't see. Did you see how the President was embraced?
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Kennedy
Of course, yeah.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Why does that.
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Brian Kilmeade
Does it surprise you? It surprised me.
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Kennedy
No, because, like, he is whatever you think about his politics, and people hate the caricature that he has become, and they hate. A lot of people hate his politics. Not everyone. He is the nicest, most affable guy.
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Michael Makofsky
Yeah.
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Kennedy
Like, he is very genuine with people and he makes people feel warm and creates a real emotional connection with them, and that is undeniable. And I think a lot of people in politics, doesn't matter what country you run, they don't have that.
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Brian Kilmeade
I just love when he's sitting there with the Egyptian leader and he goes, he's got a little problem with denial. The Ethiopians put up a dam. We're going to deal with that. I'm going to carry the dam. Like he doesn't have enough to do. Watch Kennedy Saves the World.
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Kennedy
That's right.
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Senator John Houston
Right.
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Brian Kilmeade
And that's your podcast.
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Kennedy
Spotify, Apple podcasts, Foxy's podcast, wherever you get it.
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Brian Kilmeade
And then find her live on Come
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Kennedy
see me in Tulsa this weekend.