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Again, it is my time. 3, 900 children were separated from their family. 450, 000 kids were lost. Mr. Secretary. Mr. Secretary, do not interrupt. Don't you point your finger at me. I will point my finger. Don't you be a hypocrite then. Then you be a threat. And you should be as upset about the450,000 kids that were lost. He didn't say a word about it for four years. You never said a word. Mr. Secretary, could you put him in his place for.
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Don't yell at me.
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I'm gonna put in your place.
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And that was some of on with Secretary of Homeland Mark Wayne Mullen, as the former senator went down there just to explain how things were going and how they're working to get the missing children and those phony sponsors that showed up during the previous four years and took kids that we no longer can find. And Congressman Rosa DeLauro, I think, wanted to just score political points. So with me right now is the former senator and Secretary of Homeland Security Mark Wayne Mullen. Your thoughts about some of those exchanges that you were forced to endure? And they're trying to explain what's happening with immigration.
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Unfortunately, the Democrats, they want to ignore the four years of the Biden administration. And the thing that gets, I think most people's blood boiling, especially mine as a father of six, is when you start talking about these kids. You said the phony sponsors some of these sponsors were picking had picked up 18 to 20 kids. When we go to find them on the addresses that supposedly had. They're not there. We've. We've. I say we. HSI and DHS, working as a CO as together has located 147,000 of these kids. 147,000. Now, if you start thinking about that, where's the other 300,000? And the Democrats, they don't want to say a word about this. Not a single word. And it's frustrating because we have the most horrific cases that you can imagine, Brian. We have some young ladies that we rescued out of a hotel that is sitting there saying that they were raped 6 to 700 times. When I say young ladies, they're 16 years of age. And some of them have been in this. In this sex trade and slavery, if you want to call it trafficking. For two years, they were. They were stuck in a room having to. Forced to be with men, raping them 15 to 20 times a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year. And the Democrats don't want to just go over it. And they want to talk about that. The president and this administration is being extremely strong on vetting the individuals when they come to the come to our border. We're no longer letting sponsors come in and take these kids unless we know who they are.
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Also, when it comes to the border, I've been there a few times, obviously not as much as you. And one thing, if you come up and say, I'm leaving under duress or I fear for my life and my country, they got to stay. But if you ask the right questions, you say, well, could you have gone to another part of your country and you're supposed to go into the first country you step into, you don't end up in the United States. So they would get expelled. But now the previous administration said, stay here until we get to your case. They would stay in. The backlog was 10, 15 years. What have you. What's different now?
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Well, first of all, we have a. We have an agreement with Canada and Mexico called the first country. So Canada and Mexico are considered safe countries. So they can't claim technically asylum coming in from Mexico and coming in from Canada unless they're claiming it against Canada and Mexico. So asylum cases are very difficult if you process it by the law, which Congress passed. But what we're doing on these asylum cases is we're clearing the books, what we call clearing the books. We're working together closely with the White House. And to be, to be quite frank, Stephen Miller has done a phenomenal job understanding this system very well that the, that the Democrats just over. Over. I wouldn't say overused. They abused. And so when we, when we got a team stood up that we check those individuals that's claimed asylum, are they where they say they're supposed to be because they're on parole? Technically, if you claim asylum, you're paroled. And so if you don't inform us that you have moved or informed us that your phone number has changed or your status has changed, then you are in violation of parole. So we're going through all those asylum cases and checking them. Overwhelmingly, no surprising, they're not there. Their phone number doesn't work. Their addresses aren't there. And so then we immediately put them underneath an arrest warrant because they violated their pro and we start hunting them down. So we're. And we did a strong enforcement of that this weekend. And we set records that ICE was arresting individuals all across the country. We arrested 3,500 people a day average, Saturday and Sunday. And a big chunk of those were either tps violators or asylum violators that had. That had violated their parole.
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So when you have the elimination of temporary protective status, the word temporary is there for a reason. It was a crisis in Syria and a crisis in Haiti, and now you're getting pushback that you're cruel and saying these parts. You had the Republican governor of Ohio over the weekend saying that, you know what? These Haitians are now part of our community. They are giving us health care and daycare. They're teaching our kids, watching our kids. Let them stay.
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The problem is, is it's temporary. I don't enforce laws. I don't make the laws. I enforce the laws. Right. Temporary status was temporary status. The court's already ruled on this Supreme Court. Some of these. Some of these cases have been here for 15, 20 years. I understand that. But. But during that 15 and 20 years, you had an opportunity to change your status. You chose not to because you understood it being temporary, too. Now that the court is ruled, it's too late. You got to go home. You can go back. And there's two options here. You can go back on your own, meaning that you can choose to be deported. We will give you a $2,600 check. We'll pay for your airline ticket. You can go back to the country you came from or country you choose, and then you can fill out the proper immigration paperwork and try to come back in this country legally. If we have to go find you and we deport you, you don't have the option to come back to this country.
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So if they were good people while they were here and do things the right way, since that decision came down, will they have a better opportunity to come back?
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They would have a better opportunity to come back. I can't guarantee record yet. You still got to follow our immigration system because those are what the laws are for. But it's too late now, now that because you didn't do that, you can't do it. You can't. You need to be proactive, not reactive. So you can't be reactive and filling that paperwork out now. It's too late. You have to go back now.
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Mr. Secretary, this just broke, so it's. I'll read it together and we'll digest it. The Supreme Court has ruled against President Trump's hope to eliminate birthright citizenship restrictions. It was a 5, 4 decision, and if they said it violated the 14th amendment, guaranteeing automatic American citizenship for anyone born in the United States, and issued the executive order the President signed on the first day back in office to Redefine it. And we know the case. Trump first, Barbara, a pseudonym for the Honduran citizen who fears or her or family safety if she was expelled. So the birth tourism that the Chinese, possibly our greatest abuser of that so far, it stays in play. And we kind of got an indication on a 5, 4 decision when John Roberts said, yeah, things have changed, but the Constitution hasn't. So your reaction because this directly affects you.
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Yeah, I'm not going to get ahead of the president here, but I will say I adamantly disagree with the spirit of the 14th Amendment on what the Supreme Court ruled here. I'm not an attorney, definitely not a judge, but I disagree with the court's decision here. In my opinion, if you look at the historical reason the 14th Amendment was put in place, the way that it's being abused today wasn't the intention of the 14th Amendment. But like I said, I'm not going to get ahead of the president on this, but I adamantly disagree with the Supreme Court.
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Well, I mean, the strongest argument you guys had, and I think birthright citizenship has been abused, it's been abolished in almost every Western country. So it's not Donald Trump. It's keeping up to what's going on and trying to respond to what some of our adversaries are doing, and that is having kids here that become citizens and be part of the social spending.
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Here's what ends up happening in a lot of these cases. You have these adversary countries that come in, they have a child, they raise a child back in China or whatever. And since they're a citizen, they come back over here where they've been indoctrinated. I'm sorry, if you're raised in a communist country, there's a good chance and you're able to travel back and forth, there's a good chance you've been indoctrinated. I'm not saying completely. Some people break away from it because they don't believe it. But there's a reason why we have adversaries abusing this system.
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So the 5:4 decision, it doesn't say here who voted for whom. But I will say this just to further what you're saying about the 14th Amendment. After the Civil War, there were people in the south that says, I don't think slaves should be citizens. And the president at the time says, okay, we're going to pass an amendment that says if you're born here, you become a citizen. I'm pretty sure that's not the circumstances now.
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That's right.
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So I don't know if legislation can do it, but I don't think it's in Democrats interest to have birthright citizenship either. I've seen Democrats point to China as our number one adversary, look to infiltrate every element of society. And we know China, China is the, the number one abuser of this law. Do you think you can get any bipartisan support to do something through legislation?
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I think if you looked at this from a strict national security issue, yes, I believe you could. But the promise is the Democrats, they don't believe in that right? Now remember, this is the same Democrat Party that defunded ice, our Immig Immigration Custom Enforcement Agency. They this is the same Democrat Party that just elected true communists in New York, including the mayor and three other individuals. Well, haven't elected them, but push them through to the general election. This is the same Democrat Party that, that wanted to or try to defund our customer border protection, meaning they want open borders. So this is the same party that defunds police. So I can't. They don't look at it.
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B
You're not optimistic?
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No. I'll just tell you this. Underneath the Biden administration to date of who they let come into the United States because they had open borders for four years during the Biden administration. Correct. I mean, we let millions, upwards of 20 million people come in underneath the Trump administration. We've arrested over 1900 known terrorists, not individuals that are on terrorist watch list. These are known terrorists that the Biden administration let come into this country. And because of Trump's, Trump's policies on enforcing our laws and going after the worst of the worst, we're able to round up 1900. That's all we know of right now. We're still finding these people every single day.
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Right.
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Explain to me what the Democrat Party was thinking then. So if you want to look at it from national security, yes, it should be a bipartisan issue, but unfortunately we don't have a Democrat Party that thinks that way today.
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All right, Mr. Secretary, if you could stick around a couple of minutes. I know you got to run back to the White House too. There's much more going on. But again, birthright citizenship and struck down. Looks like Roberts voted with the liberal justices to weigh that decision a different direction. And I guess, was it Amy Coney Comey Barrett that also did that? Alison? It was Barrett too. So those two came back against it. One, George W. Bush put in power, nominated and confirmed and the other one, John Robertson, of course, Amy Coney Barrett by the president states. All right. The Homeland Security secretary is here. Back in a moment. You listen the Brian Kilmeich show as we celebrate year 250 in our nation's capital. Don't move.
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All right. Homeland Security Secretary Markway Mullen is here for a few more minutes and he's got a rush back to the White House. Mr. Secretary, first off, we just had a. Another ruling come down that basically allows more coordination between this. It's considered a Republican win. I'm not sure you're allowed to respond to. If you were senator, you could. But just for everyone at home to understand, it allows more coordination between the candidate and their super PACs and their party is thought to be a Republican win because they're the one who challenged it. But I do so just in talking with you, Democrats seem to have more multibillionaires than, than the Republicans.
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What do you think about the Republicans
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are the party of the working class.
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You think about George Euros. He's already pumped in $105 million in this cycle. $105 million. It's scary the amount of money that a guy can influence politics with. And of course Democrats are always saying that they don't, they don't get bought. But you can tell their politics has swung ever since Zorros, his team got involved in this because they have done no telling how many millions if not billions of dollars in campaigns, not just in the US but around the world. And he pushes this socialist and at this point I would almost say Communist Party that is coming to bear with the Democrats at this point. But you look at the Supreme Court rulings, the president had unbelievable wins in this. I mean we've had some great wins with when it comes to immigration, birthright citizenship is, is tough. I disagree with the court on this. But you start looking at this Republican win here, you start looking at men and women's sports.
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Game down.
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Yeah, this, this is, this is some great wins for the President reinstoring just sanity, common sense to what our political fights have been over.
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So yesterday, three Ms. Members, three Ms. 13 members who have committed nine murders over a year in Nevada and California, including kidnapping, killing and torturing people were deported. Two from El Salvador, one from Honduras. This is as bad as it gets. What could you tell me about this?
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Well, 70%. I can't talk about those specific cases. The reason being is because some of them still have pending charges and they're going to be charged in El Salvador or the country to which they go
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back to, is that guaranteed before you
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send them back in most of these cases, otherwise we would hold them accountable for them. But some of these have international arrest warrants on them and Interpol. So when we arrest them, we send them back, but they're ongoing cases, we're told not to visit about them. But let me just explain to your listeners. 70% of every person that we arrest and deport on a daily basis have felony charges either pending or have already been charged at the time of the arrest. And we, when we deport them out of the United States. So all this talk saying we're rounding up, you know, these people that's been here for 20, 30 years and all they're wanting to do is work, yes, some of them get caught up in that, but 70% of them are true criminals. So when the President says. And when I say we're going after the worst of the worst, that's exactly what we're doing. And even the court upheld, when you have lpr, which is a green card, legal permanent residence, if you commit a felony, you no longer have status in this country, we're able to deport that. Thank goodness the Supreme Court upheld that. We knew that to be true. But when you violate American law and you're not a citizen here, you have no right to stay here anymore.
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So ABC came out with a poll, came out in the study, and they said only 3% of the people in custody right now have committed a crime.
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Not true. 70% of the daily individuals that we arrest have, have. Either now they have pending felonies or they've already been convicted. Now. So what ABC is probably saying is, listen, they haven't technically been been charged with anything. No, they have been charged. They haven't went to court on it. But that's. That doesn't go into account the individuals that didn't commit a crime. Maybe in the United States, but they're on, they're on the international list for Interpol to pick up and deport.
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You've only had the shop for a
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couple of months, 100 days, I think, today.
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Okay, what's been the biggest surprise and when you started looking at the portfolio and what you'd be doing, what didn't you. Would you know the most? Would you know the least?
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So my biggest surprise is the people that work inside dhs, we hear about the bureaucracy and the government employees and, you know, lifelong employees. I'm telling you inside DHS, all 22 components, we have nothing but patriots. We all believe in the passion of protecting the true homeland. I mean, protecting it, loving it. Everybody is all in the same boat, rolling the same direction. That was my biggest surprise, that I thought I am the luckiest man in
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the world, you'd have to cut the place.
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I thought we did, but we don't because I have great people working there. Second of all, the amount of backlog that needed to be done that these people just needed a green light to go do. And, and that's why you're seeing our arrest numbers, break records, deportation. We're going to deport more people by probably the middle of August. And we deported all of last year. And those numbers are just continuing climbing. We see our legal constantly working with DOJ to have these great wins at the Supreme Court. All this stuff is, is us working together as one team. And sometimes it just took us getting on the same piece of paper and understanding what we're all doing.
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If he was to ask you, the President, United States, this new Homeland Security, it's relatively new, a couple of decades old. If any part could be spun out, would you recommend any part of Homeland because it's such a behemoth?
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Yeah, absolutely. There are some areas that we could probably give to other agencies because dhs, there isn't one single secretary or director that sits on the President's cabinet that I don't work with. Every one of our components interact with every one of these different agencies. And so there's some of them that, that we could probably fold into one of the agencies. The problem is they don't always have the same authority that DHS has. The reason why we have them is because Congress gave us really broad authorities when it comes to protecting the homeland and be able to have that cross references with all the other agencies.
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B
How do you sleep at night because there's so much to do?
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Well, that isn't the problem. I work with a president that doesn't sleep. So he's making Secretary Rubio and Satir Hegseth and I joke all the time that we'll sleep in two years and five months because he pushes so hard, he drives us so hard, which is wonderful to have somebody that has a vision. He puts the right people in place, he allows you to go to work, but he expects excellence.
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B
20 seconds. You have a new nominee for ice.
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Lance, thoughts? Unbelievable guy. First of all, he'll be the first one that gets confirmed in over 10 years, actually 11 years. And he is the right person for the job.
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And I know Oklahoma you can get. Let us know. Mr. Secretary, thanks so much. Congratulations on the job and everything. Cheers.
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