Radicals Sweep: Mamdani Gets His Socialists

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Radicals Sweep: Mamdani Gets His Socialists"

Podcast: Brian Kilmeade Show, FOX News Podcasts
Date: June 24, 2026

Episode Overview

This episode of the Brian Kilmeade Show centers on the sweeping victories of socialist candidates in New York City, highlighting the rise of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) within the Democratic Party. Brian and his guests—Trey Gowdy, Senator Tim Sheehy, Mark Pincus, Karl Rove, Catherine Limbaugh, and Alexi Lalas—discuss the implications of this political shift, the current state of US foreign and economic policy, generational perspectives on technology, and the enduring value of American patriotism as the nation approaches its 250th anniversary.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Rise of Socialism in New York and the Democratic Party

• Victories for Socialists:
  Multiple DSA-endorsed candidates, led by Mayor Mamdani, swept the New York primaries, unseating establishment Democrats like those endorsed by Hakeem Jeffries and Nancy Pelosi.

  • "Victorious night for socialists in New York City as Mayor Mamdani goes 3 for 3 over Hakeem Jeffries, replacing liberals with radicals." (00:54, 39:36)

• Is it just a 'Blue Bubble'?
  Guests debate if New York's radical left shift is isolated or a portent of a national trend.

  • Trey Gowdy: "I think it's a big storyline. ...the rise of Democratic socialists...in middle America, a lot of those things are non starters." (02:25)
  • Senator Tim Sheehy: "I think it's a systemic, widespread for all Democrats, Brian. ...We're seeing the DSA brand spread from coast to coast..." (40:18)

• Party Division and DSA Influence:
  Concerns over Democratic establishment losing control and the socialists’ anti-Israel and anti-American rhetoric, including calls to “abolish ICE” and claims of solidarity with global movements.

  • Karl Rove: “This is not our grandfather’s socialism. ...very much at odds with the American experiment.” (78:41)

2. Antisemitism and Anti-Israel Sentiments

• Defining a New Mainstream:
  The episode highlights how criticism of Israel and perceived antisemitism are increasingly present in mainstream left-wing circles.

  • Brian Kilmeade: “Now she [new Congresswoman] considers herself a policymaker...this is something for the most part two years ago that Democrats would go that's not us. But now that's what's winning elections.” (17:05)
  • Trey Gowdy on Dan Goldman's defeat: “It is clearly veering from the opposition to what another government is doing into outright anti-semitism, which is on the rise.” (59:02)

• International Connections:
  Direct links are discussed between U.S. campus protests, radical activists, and the morale of groups like Hamas.

  • Senator Sheehy: "Don't you think that needs to be fully explored? ...their captors were celebrating the protests in America..." (42:08)

3. Iran Nuclear Talks and U.S. Foreign Policy

• Iran Talks Ongoing:
  Discussion about the current round of U.S.-Iran talks in Geneva, oil flows through the Strait of Hormuz, sanctions relief, and skepticism over Iran’s compliance.

  • Brian Kilmeade: “Chaotic start for the Iran talks, but the oil is flowing through the strait...the question is at what costs and why do the Iranians seem to be setting up to toll the strait?” (01:26)
  • Senator Sheehy: “Any revenue...to the Iranian nation flows directly to the coffins of the IRGC and is then redirected into their expansionist efforts.” (45:17)
  • Karl Rove: “The president’s making three big bets: the economy, the Iran deal, and Iranian compliance.” (84:15)

• Doubts About Enforcement and Outcomes:
  Guests express deep skepticism that negotiations will curb Iranian ambitions or ensure international security.

  • Trey Gowdy: “It's one of those situations where I'm extremely pessimistic yet hope I'm wrong. ...I just don't want to give money to the Iranians.” (63:45)
  • Mike Pompeo (Quote): “If I were there now, I would give the Iranians about a week to actually deliver...If they didn’t...I’d reinstitute the blockade.” (55:04)

4. American Politics: Generational, Ideological, & Economic Shifts

• Mark Pincus's Political Journey:
  The billionaire founder of Zynga discusses his shift from Democrat to Trump supporter, driven by leftward drift of the party, concern over free speech, and entrepreneurial freedom.

  • Mark Pincus: “All the sudden, they started talking about these socialist policies...These are anti-freedom. ...the idea that it's a bright line when the government starts confiscating private property—that is not part of, in my mind, a free society.” (28:09)
  • On media bias: “They intentionally misrepresented it [Trump’s Charlottesville speech].” (27:21)

• AI and Entrepreneurship:
  Pincus offers advice to aspiring entrepreneurs, noting the promise (and peril) of AI, the opportunity to create world-changing products, and urging Americans not to view AI from a place of fear.

  • Mark Pincus: “Now is the best moment. You don't need to quit your job. You could just do this as a side hustle. ...Part of succeeding is failing a lot. Failing really quickly.” (36:03, 36:53)

5. World Cup Coverage and American Patriotism

• Sporting Unity Amid Division:
  Alexi Lalas highlights the World Cup's power to unite Americans—fans, cities filling with global visitors, and a rekindling of national pride.

  • Alexi Lalas: “The speed in which this World cup has been embraced by America...We talked about this before...America wants to celebrate America, and this World cup is giving us an opportunity.” (66:26)
  • Gianni Infantino (FIFA): “The fan zones are more than 3 million people in the official ones, but the cities are full...” (67:53)

• On Winning and Ambition:
  The US team’s prospects are discussed with optimism and realism.

  • Alexi Lalas: “...that belief, I think, is justified in this particular tournament...So, yeah, why not us?” (73:18)

6. Patriotism and the American Experiment at 250

• Rush Limbaugh’s Legacy:
  Catherine Limbaugh on keeping the flame of patriotism alive via new editions of “Rush Revere” books for young readers, especially amid a national climate skeptical of America’s founding ideals.
  • Catherine Limbaugh: “Rush always talked about that, how incredibly miraculous our country is and its founding. He would say the American dream is very much still alive.” (97:43)
  • On the purpose of the books: “He wanted young readers...to be at the Mayflower, on the Mayflower, to be part of the American Revolution.” (98:17)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Mark Pincus on Media Bias:
  “I went back and found the original footage and watched, and I was like, holy shit. They really did. They intentionally misrepresented it.” (27:21 - Mark Pincus)

• Trey Gowdy on Socialism’s Spread:
  “It's going to spread a little bit, but only because so few people vote in primaries...It's like the most extreme elements of the House Freedom Caucus. Not the normal guys...but the most extreme. I think the volume outpaces the size.” (57:41 - Trey Gowdy)

• Senator Tim Sheehy on DSA & Islamism:
  “We're seeing the DSA brand spread from coast to coast...the Red Green alliance...Marxism and Islamism...Madani is the poster child for it.” (40:18 - Sen. Sheehy)

• Karl Rove on Today's Socialism:
  “This is not our grandfather’s socialism. ...very, very much at odds with the American experiment.” (78:41 - Karl Rove)

• Catherine Limbaugh on American Opportunity:
  “Rush always talked about that, how incredibly miraculous our country is and its founding. He would say the American dream is very much still alive.” (97:43 - Catherine Limbaugh)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Rise of Socialists in NY/DSA Movement: 00:52, 39:36, 76:00, 78:37
• Antisemitism/Anti-Israel Rhetoric: 16:05, 59:02, 80:21
• Iran Talks & Nuclear Policy: 01:26, 06:24, 45:17, 63:45, 84:15
• Mark Pincus Interview (Tech, AI, Party Shift): 19:17–34:01
• US World Cup & National Pride: 66:26–74:02
• Rush Limbaugh’s Legacy & Patriotism: 93:14–109:55

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Overall Tone & Language

The tone is lively, urgent, at times combative, and unmistakably conservative. Guests express deep concern over the leftward shift in the Democratic Party, the proliferation of anti-Israel and anti-American rhetoric, and foreign policy challenges. There is optimism about American resilience, entrepreneurship, and patriotic renewal—reflected in sports, cultural projects, and ongoing civic debates.

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Conclusion

This episode captures a moment of profound political transition, ideological contest, and national reflection as Americans approach the 250th anniversary of the country’s founding. Through conversations with political insiders, business leaders, and cultural figures, Brian Kilmeade and his guests paint a vivid, and sometimes foreboding, picture of where America may be headed—while affirming the ongoing value of open debate, historical knowledge, and national pride.

Transcript

[Brian Kilmeade]

From high atop FOX News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmeade. Brian Kilmeade here. Thanks so much for listening. Big hour coming your way, so hold on tight. We got Mark Pincus, billionaire founder of Zynga, former Democratic and Democrat and now Trump supporter, author of a new book, life at the Speed of Play. Launch products people love. Going to bring in some business there. And Brett Baer is standing by, chief political anchor of Fox News anchor special report. His book is a bestseller. The Case for America, An Argument on behalf of Our nation. And don't forget to go to my YouTube channel. That's all Brett spends all his time's on YouTube doc, YouTube.com/@the Brighton Kill me Joe. Let's get to the big three.

[Karl Rove]

Number three.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Well, we see an incredible enthusiasm everywhere in every host city. The cities are full, the stadiums are full.

[Karl Rove]

The atmosphere is great.

[Brian Kilmeade]

People are coming and they want to come to America. It's so true. World cup better by day, better by the day as legends Ronaldo and Messi find the back of the net. Global fans celebrate America and the US Shows all of us they're ready to make history. Number two, this has been signed, has been agreed. Nuclear activities that are going to be

[Catherine Limbaugh]

carried out will be supervised by the iaea.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Rafael Grassi, he's head of the iaea, maybe the head of the UN soon. Chaotic start for the Iran talks, but the oil is flowing through the strait. It's been consistent. The question is at what costs and why do the Iranians seem to be setting up to toll the strait? I have some suggestions.

[Mark Pincus]

Number one, abolish Ice Free Palestine and join dsa.

[Brian Kilmeade]

It was not the end of a political movement.

[Trey Gowdy]

It was the beginning.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Socialism in the Mother House. Yeah, that's the loser, Jamaal Bowman, you know, he who pulls the fire alarm. Victorious night for socialists in New York City. As Mayor Mamdani goes 3 for 3 over Hakeem Jeffries, replacing liberals with radicals. What it means for the party and ultimately the midterms. And Brett, I imagine that's one of the themes on Capitol Hill, Democrat or Republican? Is this a blue bubble in New York City or is the bubble spreading across the country?

[Trey Gowdy]

Yeah, Brian, good morning. I think it's a big storyline. Really do, I think as big as anything that is pulling apart Republicans, you know, the Iran war and how it's going or how they feel about things. You know, you look at polls, I think that is as cataclysmic when it comes to the Democratic Party potentially, is this rise of Democratic socialists. I mean, if you look at the list, when someone officially signs on to the democratic socialist agenda, it's pretty stark some of the things. And you know, maybe that candidate doesn't agree with all of that, but it is on their website about what they agree to. And in middle America, a lot of those things are non starters. So if there is anything, it is a light at the end of the tunnel for Republicans who are in their own wilderness as far as approval on a number of fronts.

[Brian Kilmeade]

But the Republicans, at least you could say some are moderate, some are conservative. You can't say some want to be communists. Socialism is an economic philosophy that doesn't gel with free enterprise. But it's a debate. But when you talk about all these other visions of foreign policy, I mean, why are you dug in on Gaza and the Palestinians? Why. Why are you thinking so about being anti Israel? Is the. Is a pathway to a better America? You know, why are you not going? Why are you not running against Russia, China, North Korea and Iran? Why do you see our main ally as our enemy? These are fundamental questions. You got to take a step back and go, what's going on? Whose agenda is this?

[Trey Gowdy]

Yeah, and it's a big part of that agenda. If you look at the campaigns of one of those candidates, it's a recurring theme, I mean, almost more than affordability and it's kind of stark, you know. And listen, I think the actions of Israel, you know, defending itself are talked about from the Israeli point of view all the time about existential threats it faces. Some of its actions obviously have been criticized about how it's operated. But as far as this level of antipathy towards Israel, it's pretty stark. And it's also getting traction across the country.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So if you're Hakeem Jeffries, how do you approach today? You know, he thinks he's going to be the next speaker, but is he? And why do you keep losing your candidates? Nancy Pelosi wanted Dan Goldman. Hakeem Jeffries wanted Dan Goldman. They wanted Espilot, the chairman of the Hispanic Caucus, to win again, he didn't. So what do you think if you're Jefferies?

[Trey Gowdy]

Well, I mean, I think you try to characterize and spend it as a Democratic power and a win and passion, and look at the voter turnout or et cetera, et cetera. But in the back of your mind, you have to be thinking, even if you win as speaker, it's going to be tough. Democrats historically have had a great track record of Hurting the cats with all of their members. Once they get the majority, they're able to do it far better than Republicans. At least Nancy Pelosi was. I don't think we've seen Hakeem Jeffries in that role. And it would be exponentially different with Democratic socialists in that mix.

[Brian Kilmeade]

But would you think that when Joe Crowley loses to Alexander Ocasio Cortez. That was eight years ago. And now look at that, how that has grown. Even Nancy Pelosi would have trouble dealing with the numbers she's going to be dealing with in terms of people who have different philosophies of government than her in her own party.

[Trey Gowdy]

Yeah, I mean, she had issues with the squad, but that managed to deal with them, you know, eventually get them moving in the same direction. But I think this would be a different animal.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So I want to talk about your interview last night. Mark Ruta, he is the, he's the General Secretary of NATO cut 23. I think the president is doing exactly what is needed, degrading Iran's nuclear capability. Could you imagine if Iran would get its hands on the nuclear weapon? This is an exporter of chaos. It is an exporter of terrorism. It would be devastating for the region. It will be devastating for the whole world. And if that moment would come where

[Karl Rove]

they would get their hands on a

[Brian Kilmeade]

nuclear weapon, it is too late. You have seen it with North Korea. So I think the president is doing exactly what is necessary. I completely blind him. But he was unable to convince me through your interview that he'll get any of the NATO allies to do anything to me. You could use that leverage to do what they want and say, Mr. President, they'll help you out in Iran if you would help them out in Ukraine. But I don't think he's playing that card as of now.

[Trey Gowdy]

No. You know, he is what they called the Trump whisperer from NATO. But the other European leaders, you know, have to sign on to what he's saying and I'm not sure all of them do. And I think he's going to have an interesting meeting today and we'll see what comes out of it. I do think that on the big picture, they believe a non nuclear Iran is a very good thing. I think collectively they are happy that they're at the negotiating table and less concerned that they're negotiating away things that, you know, some people who at the beginning thought was going to be a part of this.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah. Could not be more disappointed with the memory of the memorandum of understanding. And since that time, 93 vessels between Friday and Sunday passed through and they're getting about 50 a day. And now the price of oil is going down in the 70s and no longer in the 90s or going over 100. So that's good. But how do you characterize from what you know, about how the talks are going five days in?

[Trey Gowdy]

You know, I've had a number of conversations. It's early. There is definitely a dichotomy with what they are seeing in the negotiations one on one with the Iranians in Geneva and what comes out on social media, you know, from various Iranians, whether it's the IRGC or others saying, you know, the Strait of Hormuz is closed, the IAE inspectors aren't coming, etc. Etc. Etc. So they say that's all about playing to an internal audience. But every time it happens, it gets picked up and digested in the US Media and it does not look good for the President. So this process is going to be bumpy. But I've heard, heard from multiple sources that it's going as well as they can expect.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So what do you think Marco Rubio is doing now with the Gulf states? Assuring them? Are they assuring him? Where do you think they stand? You have great relations with MBS over in Saudi Arabia. UAE has been maybe our staunchest ally that's not in NATO, but the press, but he's seeing everybody. What are they saying? Are they disappointed that we're unable to protect them during this battle? Are they disappointed they have to write $100 billion check and leave it somewhere?

[Trey Gowdy]

You know, it's mixed. I'm told in these GCC countries, UAE is like, you know, ready to go. They think that we stopped short, that we should have kept going. And they're concerned that Iran with money is going to come back to be the threat that it has always been. And of course, they are a country that took more than 2,500 incoming over the past few months. I think Saudi is more happy or happier rather, in the fact that they're at the table and they believe they can get a good deal. But there's concern and I think what Rubio is doing is trying to calm everybody down and saying, give us this time. If it doesn't work, we're going back at it, which is what the President has said. I don't think there's any going back at it, though. I think we have, you know, issues internally, politically, as far as wanting to get this behind us and gas prices and setting the table for the midterms and Two, I do think there's more to this munitions story than has been public as of yet as far as where we are on the ability to rearm and do it fast.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So today it looks like the President not only going to meet with the NATO General Secretary, he's also meeting with defense contractors. And the Deputy Secretary Steven Feinberg leads a procurement efforts. Multiple officials allege he has steered contract towards his own his service owned companies prompting a conflict of interest concern from armed services. And now their president is going to again bring in these contractors. Say why aren't you picking up the speed when it comes to weapons? What's your take on this? It's hard to know what the real story is.

[Trey Gowdy]

Yeah, I think there's, there's fire behind the smoke. I think that we'll see. There's a big munitions meeting today I think at the White House after close of business and these companies are going to make their case in front of the President. The Pentagon is running on fumes. It's out of money and that's why this supplemental of $80 billion is being talked about and being is so cruc because you know the coffers are dry. I think the army is going to run out before September which is insane

[Brian Kilmeade]

because they have $850 billion a year.

[Trey Gowdy]

Yeah. So you talk about munitions expended, what we've done across the world, moving the Navy, et cetera, et cetera. It's very pricey. And I think that there's going to be a real come to Jesus moment here up on Capitol Hill about where things stand and maybe what has been said about where things stand.

[Brian Kilmeade]

General Donahue, a four star general that many people think Brett is the finest general in our armed forces, have been told really to retire. He is not wasn't asked to be part of the Iranian campaign, but it looks like he and the Pentagon are no longer going to be associated with each other by almost all accounts. In my personal one, from what I saw and by the people around him, this is a huge loss.

[Trey Gowdy]

Yeah. And there's a number of those guys, Randy George brothers who you know, the, the exit out was, was not expected or not welcomed and kind of surprising. So yeah, that's also making some folks, including Roger Wicker, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, upset. He has lots of questions about all kinds. So anyway, all of that dynamic between Congress and the administration when it comes to the Pentagon is tense and we'll see how the administration handles it.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah, Brett. So the the case for America, an argument on behalf of our nation. Now, as we get closer to the Fourth of July, do you find there's a thirst to find out more about the journey to 250? Is that what you found when you were talking to people about your book?

[Trey Gowdy]

Yeah, you know, the book is, has really done well on its, you know, on the merits because people I think are hungry for this, making the case. And one of the things and I talked to you about this is that people have been going to the website thecaseforamerica.com and you can read about the book and you can order the book there, but you can also make your case with a 30 second video, you know, your case for America. What's great about America or what you think about America. And I've been, I mean, thousands and thousands of people have come on and done it and I use some of those clips on the show at the end of the week. I just see this thing that there's this hunger to have this shared love of this moment. I think it's a shame that a lot of some people on the left have put America 250 and tied it to President Trump directly and thereby somehow tainted some of the events. I think that there's a hunger beyond that, no matter your political ideology. And I've seen that in the people that are filing the videos.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Awesome. That's great. It was great idea, by the way, have people participate. Brett Bear, we'll look forward to seeing you tonight at 6.

[Trey Gowdy]

Okay, see you.

[Brian Kilmeade]

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[Senator Tim Sheehy]

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[Alexi Lalas]

Cheers to America's 250th birthday.

[Brian Kilmeade]

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[Senator Tim Sheehy]

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[Brian Kilmeade]

It's Brian Kilmeade. I was in Nablus for almost two months and I visited many cities in the region, both in the west bank and in Israel. And what I found in my time

[Catherine Limbaugh]

there was a system of apartheid.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And I saw so many connections between what was happening to Palestinians there in Palestine and what was happening to so many communities across the U.S. particularly black and Latino communities who have been priced

[Senator Tim Sheehy]

out and pushed out of our homes.

[Brian Kilmeade]

When we talk about displacement in the west bank or in Gaza, it is

[Catherine Limbaugh]

a very similar, visually similar situation where people who have been in a place

[Brian Kilmeade]

for generations are being displaced because of

[Catherine Limbaugh]

corporate interests, because of folks who are

[Brian Kilmeade]

coming in, claiming and buying it up

[Catherine Limbaugh]

and kicking the people who live there out. And I've seen a lot of similarities,

[Brian Kilmeade]

not just in the way things are done, but also in the very institutions that are enacting that violence. The tear gas that was being dropped on Palestinians in Gaza in 2014 was the same tear gas that was being

[Catherine Limbaugh]

dropped on black protesters in Ferguson in 2014.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And that memory that summer for me was incredibly formative because it showed me

[Senator Tim Sheehy]

that connection is not only one that

[Catherine Limbaugh]

is like but it is the very same system.

[Brian Kilmeade]

You mean people use tear gas when people out of control, like in Ferguson. That means if you use tear gas in Gaza and tear gas to break up a riot in a city, that means it's the same exact thing in the same exact cause. That is the idiocy of Dar Eliza Avila Chevrolet. And she won the Congress the runoff yesterday for the Democratic primary nomination, which is going to go right through to November. There'll be no, no legitimate contest. So she's going to be in Congress. This woman is vehemently anti American. She is vehemently anti Israel, as you just heard. She is mischaracter what's happening in the Middle East. And now she considers herself a policymaker. And she might be on a committee that does that, but that is something for the most part. Two years ago that Democrats would go that's not us. But now that's what's winning elections. Now. Is New York a bubble? Not really. Because Chris Raab won in Philadelphia, in Pennsylvania. Is it a bubble in New York with three straight socialist wins?

[Karl Rove]

Not really.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Look who is The Denver, the D.C. mayor an extreme socialist. Is it just in this inner city blue cities. Well, a blue city called Seattle, sure. But these are growing socialist eight years ago was isolated was just AOC beats Joe Crowley, a leader amongst Democrats who thought might be a speaker material. And now it's spreading throughout the party. I think in the short term is going to be good news for Republicans gives them a real shot at holding both chambers. But long term, it's bad for our country. It's more than an economic philosophy. It's an anti American philosophy.

[Alexi Lalas]

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[Brian Kilmeade]

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[Alexi Lalas]

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[Senator Tim Sheehy]

The more you listen, the more you'll

[Brian Kilmeade]

know it's Brian Kilmeade. Hey, welcome back everybody. We're with Mark Pincus, billionaire founder of Zynga, former Democrat and now Trump supporter, author of a brand new book, Life at the Speed of Play. Launch products that people love. Mark, welcome to.

[Mark Pincus]

Thanks.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So what is how did you make your money?

[Mark Pincus]

The old fashioned way, I guess. I built it one company at a time, one product at a time. And I founded my first company when I was 28 at the beginning of the Internet era. And amazingly it was acquired after seven months. It was the first consumer Internet acquisition.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And what was that?

[Mark Pincus]

It was called Freeloader and it was a free downloadable product that attached to your browser, let you subscribe to Internet content. It dialed in in the middle of the night because remember, it used to be really slow, downloaded all the Internet, put it in an interactive screensaver with ads on your computer and 2 million people downloaded it in the first month. It was known as push technology. In fact, Fox in the middle all of all that got involved with Pointcast. I don't know if you remember that era, but so anyway, so the company was acquired for 38 million after seven months. So that at a young age gave me the ability to pursue a career as a founder. And then I went on, I created another company, support.com, which was an enterprise software company. It was the first subscription software company before SaaS and that went public in 2000. And then eventually I started Zynga. We created social gaming and kind of mass market casual gaming and was public for 11 years and then merged with take two a couple years ago.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So from that takeaway, you're now afraid of what's next. A lot of people were concerned about the Internet.

[Senator Tim Sheehy]

Look out.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I'm worried about what's going to happen. And now we're in a similar spot when it comes to AI. Why were you not intimidated by this new era where we watch the new era of AI, 22 year olds at commencement addresses booing AI. When you would think 65 year olds at the Villages would be booing AI, right? It's the 22 year olds. And here you are a 28 year old and you're like, I'm loving this brand new untamed Internet world.

[Mark Pincus]

It's I, maybe it's the Way, you know, I just was wired that I've always. I used to be obsessed with new media before there was an Internet. And then the Internet came around, and I said, oh, my God, this is. This is the thing. So I've always just loved trying to connect the dots on these new technologies and make them accessible to. To the mass market. And the greatest joy that I get, that I try to talk about a little bit in the book, is creating products that can deliver real meaning in people's lives. And the most meaningful thing is usually social. It's improving the relationships. We counted success at Zynga in marriages, and.

[Brian Kilmeade]

You mean through gaming? Yeah, yeah. And you would actually track that?

[Mark Pincus]

Yeah, yeah. Well, we'd.

[Karl Rove]

We.

[Mark Pincus]

You know, we couldn't. There wasn't a metric. We couldn't, you know, monitor you to see if you got married, but people, our fans would tell us, you know, I met. There was a couple from New York and London that met in words with friends and eventually got married and fell in love through the words they created.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So you said. So you're waking her up. And Bill Clinton, I think, was president during the emerging Internet era. George Bush took over, and there was the crash, the bubble burst. I remember right in 2001 when he took over. Where were you and all that?

[Mark Pincus]

You know, I was. I was in the middle of this. I was building this boring enterprise software company, support.com. we named it dotcom because every CIO was told to buy Internet infrastructure and we worked on the Internet. So we said, let's call it Support dot Com. And it helped sell a lot more software, oddly. And then we were the. We went public on the last day of the dot com IPO window, only because we were a real company with 170 million in revenues. And so I lived in the middle of this thing, and I'll tell you that my peers and I thought it was crazy when we were in the middle of the bubble, we were not the biggest believers. We were saying, this is not gonna end well.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So when I remember very succinctly when President Trump took over the first time, he set up a business community, like a business consulting group, like all the lead business leaders. He put them together. Elon Musk was on it and Jamie Dimon. And then they had the stuff that they had, one controversy just crop up and they end up disbanding it. But I always thought that the tech companies and the way they were handling the political environment was whatever's left works. Remember the Zuckerbucks and the way they went Everywhere to make sure that Trump lost in 2020, but then he becomes president in 2024, and it's a different approach. You actually went through a transformation yourself. Can you bring us through your personal one with the one that we all witnessed from above?

[Mark Pincus]

Sure. So, yeah. I grew up in Chicago. I was just your basic pragmatic Chicago liberal. Like a lot of mainstream America, we were conservative economically, fiscally, but liberal in terms of social policies. And really, I think the ethos underneath it was libertarian, and it was about freedom. People just want freedom to live their lives without government involvement. And the Democratic Party seemed to align more with that for a long, long time. And you just put up with the bad fiscal policy and the no understanding of economics. You kind of held your nose and you had to make a choice. And then they went through this amazing shift, and it was kind of post. It was during the pandemic and post pandemic I saw. And I got close to Obama and thought, and he loved tech and was very pro tech and seemed very mainstream. But then I found, starting in 2023 and then 2024, that all sudden, the script for the Democrats just really went oddly far left. And also there was this divergence happening at the same time between what was actually, like, what you could find out with primary data and what was being told to us by mainstream media and by Democratic leaders, including Obama. And my real red pill moment was I remember reading an Atlantic article, and the Atlantic is a very progressive magazine, and they covered how odd the coverage was of Trump's Charlottesville speech and how it was clipped and edited and.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And by the way, Charlottesville is when the business council broke up for the White House. That was the moment. But they go, okay, we can't work for the Trump, but go ahead.

[Mark Pincus]

Yeah. And I was just like, this can't be true. And that they wouldn't clip it this much and make it sound like the opposite of what he said. And one of the reasons we were supposed to hate Trump was the Shawnesville.

[Brian Kilmeade]

He's a racist, right?

[Mark Pincus]

And a Nazi.

[Brian Kilmeade]

People on both sides.

[Mark Pincus]

Yeah. And that's like the tag you give to destroy someone. Cancel them as Nazi. And so then I went back and found the original footage and watched, and I was like, holy shit. They really did. They intentionally misrepresented it. And that. That just kind of destabilized me. And then at same time, very soon after, I saw Biden move to these strange places. And all sudden, the script for the Democrats, I don't know who was writing it, but all sudden they started talking about these socialist policies, like here's the way we're gonna stop inflation. We're going to put price caps on grocery stores and food and tax unrealized gains.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And I was like, wealth tax.

[Mark Pincus]

Well, that was even before wealth tax.

[Brian Kilmeade]

You know, now that's hot.

[Mark Pincus]

Now they're on wealth tax and it's. And these are anti freedom. I mean they're the idea that it's a bright line when the government starts confiscating private property. That is not part of, in my mind, a free society. And what they do, it's a Trojan horse. You start with the billionaires or in Illinois just crypto. And then once we're across that line, in fact, they wrote the California wealth tax bill or the proposition in a way that a simple majority of the California legislature can apply it to every California.

[Brian Kilmeade]

They have a super majority.

[Mark Pincus]

Yeah.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And they have a super majority. By the way, our guest is Mark Pincus. If you're not tuning in or watching the stream. Billionaire founder of Zynga. He's got a brand new book out called Life at the Speed of Play. Launch products people love. I want to play into what you said. There was a turning point. Are you centervo center left Left, which we thought Joe Biden was his career right. Pro against crime and other things. He ends up being extremely left. But listen to what Brad Lander who won last night said turned it for him. Now he's a socialist who cited Venezuela and Cuba as models. Crazy. Right? Listen to this.

[Mark Pincus]

Cut to Our party needs to admit

[Brian Kilmeade]

that Joe Biden's hug Bibi strategy was a catastrophic failure. I believe it made us complicit in genocide.

[Mark Pincus]

Bombs we paid for killed over 70,000

[Brian Kilmeade]

Palestinians, mostly women and children. Tanks we sent made over a million people homeless.

[Mark Pincus]

Humanitarian aid is still not getting in.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Mark, Almost everything he said is wrong. What he said now. And they were selective morality October 8th against Israel who were attacked October 7th. They were prepared for this argument before they put one IDF soldier into Gaza.

[Mark Pincus]

Yeah, it's. We're in this odd moment of selective morality where. And selective facts. It's just.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah.

[Mark Pincus]

The DSA was organized in San Francisco on October 8th. They led marches in New York and yeah. Before they. Even the terrorists were even stopped before so, you know, there was any response. And yet. And then they're saying things that are. They know are not true. When they say 70,000 people, mostly women and children. I mean it's. Even the UN doesn't say that. So it's really strange. I mean I've never lived through a

[Brian Kilmeade]

moment like that because it's like someone else on the outside is manipulating it. And, you know, George McGovern, they said, was basically almost a socialist. He was extremely left, but I never thought he was. I thought that was his economic philosophy. You know, I was too young to. But if you look back on the fight and how he lost every state, 49 states or whatever it was, you go, well, America didn't want extreme left socialist tendencies. But I didn't think he was ever anti American. I think with the socialist economic philosophies come an anti Americanism or resentment. We don't hear the resentment towards our enemies. Russia, China, North Korea, Iran. It is towards, I guess, the Republicans and Israel.

[Mark Pincus]

Yeah, it's really bizarre. And when you start attacking Israel, like the most similar country in the world to us in terms of values, they're

[Brian Kilmeade]

more progressive, strong, military, democratic. It's a democracy.

[Mark Pincus]

Yeah. And in a lot of ways, it's like, if you really want to compare back to the 1930s, it's like they're Britain and they're already in this fight against these enemy forces and starting with Iran and extreme Islam, and are we gonna partner with them and support them or turn and say, actually, Germany's not that bad, Britain is the problem.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And that turned you

[Mark Pincus]

out. So In July of 2024, I wrote a post in the Free Press that I wasn't supporting Trump yet. I just questioned, I said, I proposed that maybe Biden is even riskier for the country than Trump. And that unleashed real intense anger and hatred from the left.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And friends or just people?

[Mark Pincus]

Yeah, friends. I mean, people like Kara Swisher, who I'd been friends with since, for decades, said, wrote a really personal, vindictive, hateful post about me. So, yeah, it got personal really quickly.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So Kara Swisher, who just left, is trying to leave CNN because Oracle founder, the Ellisons bought it. Bought it and are going to be changed. She goes, I'm out. She wants to break her contract. So she's an extreme left Trump hater. And Trump. That would be Trump derangement.

[Mark Pincus]

Yeah. Yeah. And I think most of Silicon Valley is just independent minded and we're trying to look at primary data.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Would you say, Mark, AI is a little bit different than the Silicon Valley? Like the AI men and women who are pioneering that seem to be a little less political, more towards entrepreneurship and free enterprise, and less like Democrat or Republican. So Trump wants to do business with them and they see Trump as an opportunity cryptocurrency. They Say, well, President Trump wants to enrich himself. No, he says, listen, I didn't understand it then, I understand it now. You guys, I'm going to give you some room to grow. I'm going to put David Sacks in charge of it. He understands it. Understand that if you get out of control, you're going to hurt yourself. But I'm going to let it grow. I'm going to let AI grow. You know, people are wary and we got some things. I have a few more questions on the other side. You have a few more minutes?

[Mark Pincus]

Sure.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Okay, great. So Mark can stick around, pick up his book, Life at the Speed of Play. Launch products people love. Back in a moment. Real talk, real guests, real insight, where curiosity meets conversation. It's the Brian Kilmeade show,

[Senator Tim Sheehy]

If you're interested in it. Brian.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Brian's talking about it.

[Senator Tim Sheehy]

You're with Brian Kilmeade.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Mark Fingers this year, billionaire founder of Zynga, among other companies. His book, Life at the Speed of Play. Launch products people love. And right now there's going to be around AI And I just was reading you, Mark, what was in Axios today? That five eyes are intelligence alliances worried about the speed of Japan and China's progress along with ours, that they are capable in a matter of months of really creating havoc with governments and businesses. Can you put that in layman's terms?

[Mark Pincus]

Yeah. We are in a race not just in America, but worldwide. And it's not even that we need to get to AGI or get to the AI Win point first. We have to stay in the lead and keep staying there. And what we just saw with Mythos, because it's an American company, they could go to our government and say, you need to fix everything. Cuz we just broke into everything. Our model could break into everything, you know, in a few hours.

[Brian Kilmeade]

They turned themselves in.

[Mark Pincus]

Yeah.

[Brian Kilmeade]

They said, look what I did.

[Mark Pincus]

China isn't gonna do that. Right. They're not gonna say, hey, CIA, guess what? We just broke all your codes.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Shut your lights and shut your water.

[Catherine Limbaugh]

Right?

[Mark Pincus]

Yeah. And so it's so vital that we continue to move faster. And it's important for the salvation of the free world.

[Brian Kilmeade]

But you also wrote this book because you want people to know this is an opportunity now using to create that company.

[Mark Pincus]

Yes. My message to any of your listeners out there, what I wrote this book for is it's an invitation to say if you've had an idea, something, you've just thought, why isn't there this product or this thing out there? Now is the Best time ever for you to actually build that. And you can do it with no engineers, nobody else.

[Brian Kilmeade]

You could ask AI to do what your ideas.

[Mark Pincus]

Ask AI how to do it it to be your thought partner and then ask it to be your factory. And now is the best moment. You don't need to quit your job. You could just do this as a side hustle. And this book is a how to. Like, what do you do next?

[Brian Kilmeade]

You did it.

[Mark Pincus]

Yeah.

[Brian Kilmeade]

How many companies have you started?

[Mark Pincus]

5 that have.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Did you have any that didn't work?

[Mark Pincus]

Yeah, I've. I've had failures the whole way through. Part of succeeding is failing a lot. Failing really quickly.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Maybe not using that word right. It's just like, okay, I haven't won yet, you know.

[Mark Pincus]

Yeah, my dad used to say, you're in between successes.

[Brian Kilmeade]

That's. I would love to spin that. Just like, you can never say I can't.

[Mark Pincus]

Yeah, right.

[Brian Kilmeade]

It doesn't work. It gives wrong signals. Pick up Mark's book. He's lived the life that he writes about life at the speed of play. Launch products that people love. Mark, thanks so much for coming in.

[Mark Pincus]

Yeah. I love talking to you about all this.

[Karl Rove]

Yeah, of course. Great.

[Brian Kilmeade]

You listen to Brian Kilometre.

[Karl Rove]

Don't move.

[Senator Tim Sheehy]

From the Fox News radio studios in

[Brian Kilmeade]

midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmeade, so glad you're there. It's the Brian Kilmeade show coming to you from here. And right in New York City, which is basically becoming a socialist have. And at 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan, standing by, Senator Tim Sheehy. He would know what that's like. He spent most of his time in Montana. Senate Armed Services Committee, retired Navy SEAL pilot Tim Sheehy with us in a matter of moments. Trey Gowdy at the bottom of the hour. So we got an action packed, action packed hour. So before we get to Tim, we know the President states got a couple of meetings today. He's going to Capitol Hill, talk to senators like Tim, the whole caucus. There's some that are upset about the President and the DEI choices acting. They wanted a chance to vote on the new guy and they didn't. And he also wants to save America act passed so see if they can get past that. He also wants to blow up the filibuster. We'll talk to Tim about that. So let's get to the big three. Number three. Well, we see an incredible enthusiasm everywhere in every host city. The cities are full, the stadiums are full, the atmosphere is great. Great people are coming and they want to come to America. And by the way, that's the bagpipes are about Scotland playing Brazil today. World cup better by the day as as legends Ronaldo and Messi find the back of the net. Global fans are celebrating this country and the US shows they are ready to make some history on the field. Number two, this has been signed, has been agreed. Nuclear activities that are going to be carried out will be supervised by the iea. Rafael Grassi, he's head of the iaea. Chaotic start for the Iran talks but the oil is flowing through the strait. But now all of a sudden they're starting to have an Iranian insurance company. Tolls and fees are set to be set up within 60 days. Will that be acceptable? I hope not.

[Mark Pincus]

Number one, abolish Ice Free Palestine and join DSA.

[Brian Kilmeade]

It was not the end of a political movement. It was the beginning. Socialism in the house. Yeah, that's Jamaal Bowman, the two times loser in New York. Victorious night for socialists in New York City. Mayor Mamdani goes 3 for 3 over Hakeem Jeffries replacing liberals with radicals. What it means for the part of this city I'm in right now and ultimately the midterms. I'm going to start with that. Senator Sheehy, thanks so much for being with us. I'll sit down so we can can have a zoom shot here. So Senator, do you think this is a New York bubble with the rise of socialists because you're on the floor with Democrats on a regular basis or do you think this is spreading throughout your opposing party?

[Senator Tim Sheehy]

I think it's a systemic widespread for all Democrats, Brian. I mean this isn't just New York. We're seeing the DSA brand spread from coast to coast and it's kind of this imported Red green alliance which most people don't know about. But you know, Marxism and Islamism go back a long ways. Madani is the poster child for it. The Red Green alliance, which is the Marxist socialist communist ideology of constant social revolution, of rising up against whatever establishment there is, has been wedded to the Islamist movement for quite some time. I mean, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, oddly enough, is connected to this. I mean, the revolution in Iran in 1979 was very much a woven together product of the Red Green alliance and the New York City DSA movement that we're seeing now led by Mamdani, who's the poster child is that as well. And they're the vanguard. They are giving political permission for Democrats to mirror these policies from coast to coast. Abdul Al said in Michigan. Michigan's not exactly a hotbed of socialism. I mean it's an old rust belt state of factory workers and blue collar people. But apparently now the Democrats choice for Senate is also a Democrat socialist who is also an Islamist. And of course antisemitism now appears to be an accepted political platform of the Democrat Socialists. Now I think the Democrat Party has a choice now. They're at a crossroads or I should say they're at a why in the road. Are they going to work as an establishment? Hakeem Jeffries, Chuck Schumer. Are they going to work to say, listen, we are not the party of anti Semitism, we're not the party of socialism, Marxism and communism which has killed more people than every other ism combined in the history of mankind. Are we going to be the blue collar Labor Party that we used to be or not? And I think that struggle is happening as we are watching right now. And I think it's pretty clear which sides we winning.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I want to talk about the I hear you and I could play a ton of, a ton of sound bite that'll just abhor you. Free Palestine, abolish ice, abolish prisons. One of these women actually went on abolishing prisons. Can you imagine this, let alone everything else they stand for. But doesn't it sound familiar? Do you remember the hostages when they luckily were able to get out of the tunnels in Gaza, they said that the, their captors were celebrating the protests in America and there was communication between them, them. Why would they be looking at Columbia University and celebrating and have communication between them like Mahmoud Khalil and some of those links? Don't you think that needs to be fully explored?

[Senator Tim Sheehy]

I don't. I mean it should be explored, but I think it's pretty evident why. It's because throughout history, and this is the, the Islamist movement has focused on a global caliphate. This goes Back to the 700 A.D. when and you saw a very new religion which was Islam, obviously Prophet Muhammad and you know, the 620s to the 680s as the Sunnis and Shias split as a diversion. It really wasn't a religious split, it was a cultural one between the Persians and the Arabs who were sharing a religion but refused to, of course, come together in the ideology of that religion. And in the 7002, it became an expansionist religious empire to create a caliphate. And all the way up through Iberia and Spain and all the way to Constantinople, which at one point point Constantinople, today's Istanbul, was the largest Christian city In the world. Of course now it's a seat of a major Muslim nation in the Ottoman Empire. So the expansionist belief of Islam is always they want to create a global caliphate of Sharia law. And that's not conspiracy theory, that's just quite literally what they say. That's what the Quran says, what they've done. So it makes all kinds of sense for a radical terrorist group in the middle of Gaza to celebrate that their ideology is now being promulgated in, in the greatest city of the greatest nation on earth right in New York, in the heart of New York City, Columbia University, one of our greatest institutes of higher learning, traditionally at one point led by Dwight D. Eisenhower. Imagine that Dwight Eisenhower, after being a five star general before becoming President of the United States, was the President of Columbia University. Imagine that today. Imagine what would happen today on the Columbia campus with all these lunatic Hamas, Jew hating communists if they put an American war general in charge of Columbia. You'd have an absolute. It would make antifa look like child's play. So those terrorist groups look to the US and see that we have these of course funded Muslim protests across the nation celebrating their ideology. It validates them. And of course that is their mission, is to spread this murderous ideology around the entire world in any way possible.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So Senator Tim Sheehy with us now. Please watch on the stream. So Senator, the big story of course, the talks that are going on with Iran. The Strait of Hormuz has rebounded. They had 93 vessels going from Friday to Sunday, 32 prior to the weekend. About 100 ships per day is the goal and they're getting there. So would you say the talks are progressing in a way that you're happy with or are you concerned with the fact that they got immediate sanctions relief and are cashing in on their oil at full market rate?

[Senator Tim Sheehy]

Well, of course I'm deeply concerned. Anytime we allow any revenue recognition to be realized by the irgc, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps is the murderous brigade essentially that runs Iran. They are an organization that is bent on terror, destruction and any revenue, any cash, any money, any intake to the Iranian nation flows directly to the coffins of the IRGC and is then redirected into their expansionist efforts. Of course, the straits being open, the product of that will bring down gas prices. That's good for the global economy, that's good for America. Of course we want our nation to succeed in these talks. I don't want to be fighting Iran for another 47 years. I don't want to be bombing Iran for another 47 years. And I hope that the delegation is successful in finding an off ramp. But the goal of this is not to find an off ramp. The goal of this is to make sure that this murderous barbarian regime stops killing Americans, stops killing our allies and stops spreading terror around the world. And I think it's important we don't conflate those two goals. The goal is not to have an off ramp. The goal is to solve a very serious threat to America. And those things can diverge at some point. And if we find that Iran is recognizing revenue and then redirecting that cash into terrorist activities, bullets, bombs, rockets, missiles and insurgent groups, then we have to put an immediate stop to it. And we can open the straits by force. And we should open them by force should they decide once again to attempt to close.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Have you seen the war plan that would allow the force to be open by force? Have you seen it?

[Senator Tim Sheehy]

Yeah, I mean, we've had that plan on the books since the 80s, Brent, as you know, I mean, this is not the first straight of Hormuz crisis we've faced. And when we hear that straits are quote unquote closed, as I've tried to explain a lot of people this past several months, that there's not a chain link fence they pull across, there's not a magical gate they shut and say they're closed, you know, you shall not pass. It's a matter of commercial risk tolerance. And the insurance industry has a far lower tolerance for risk, for hull risk, for loss than they have in previous generations. And the last time we had a real straits Crisis in the 80s, the insurance industry had more of a tolerance for commercial risk. The truth is if 100 ships try to drive through the strait, 95, 98, 99 of them will make it through. But that 1% is a level of risk that the insurance industry is not willing to backstop. And that's where Project Freedom came in, where we could provide an insurance backstop, US backed guarantee with military protection for vessels. And scaling that up to a broad, more expansive operation is possible and should be done. So we're very capable of opening the straits. It just comes at a cost that of course the President has to make the decision of the risk to our forces and the industry has to make the decision of risk to their balance sheet. So the straits Iran does not have the power to close the straits. They have the power to impose risk on vessels passing the straits. And when that risk reaches a certain level, the industry says we're not going

[Brian Kilmeade]

to take it we had the New York Times today and they say right now ships going through have to give 48 hours notice. And Iran says they're going to be issuing their own insurance and they're going to be charging fees. It's an infrastructure they're setting up to take over in 60 days. The President told me today it's not true. What do you think?

[Senator Tim Sheehy]

I hope it's not true. And I think what we see with this messaging difference between the admin and the Iranians, this is not a reflection of the President's administration. This is a reflection of the counterparty we are dealing with, which is a regime that has zero belief that they need to adhere to agreements with America or any western nation. They view that their mission for a global caliphate supersedes any legal mechanism, national or international, and they will just say whatever it takes to get things done. So I have no doubt they are telling Vance and Kushner and Wyckoff and the Europeans exactly what we want to hear, and they turn around and do something else. And that's who we're dealing with. That's the reality of our counterparty in these negotiations.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Senator, I talked to someone extremely close to negotiations who said there's miles. Moderate forces and then there's the supreme leader forces and that we're trying to prop up the moderate forces. Do you believe that they're playing good cop, bad cop and there are no moderate forces. For example, they label the speaker and the President as a moderate force within the realm of the Iranian party. Is it a mistake to think there is some?

[Senator Tim Sheehy]

I think it's a mistake to believe that our definition of moderate may apply there. We have to realize that, like, let's not let the, you know, the window move too far here. Moderate in Iran is still, by our standards, people who still want us dead. They still hate America. They still have no desire to be friends with us. But maybe they're willing to say, listen, let's hold off on the killing of our own people and fueling proxies for a bit until we lick our wounds. Whereas the extremists are welcoming the destruction of. They're welcoming this confrontation. But I do think we are dealing with multiple factions. There's no questions that our negotiating team is having to deal with the fact that we're not dealing with a unified counterparty. We're dealing with multiple factions within the Iranian regime because we've obviously decimated a lot of their leadership. And some of those factions probably genuinely do want to make a real deal to bring hostilities to an End some of them probably want to find a way to recognize revenue and bring cash in to wait out the clock and wait out Trump so that they can get to a new administration, whether it's Republican or Democrat and roll the dice and say we're going to be treated better next administration. And there's probably a group too that's says we just want to fight, we don't want to fight and we want to show the fight of the great Satan will happen. And they're spoiling for that fight.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I want General Donahue, four star general have had a chance to meet and be on base in Germany as well as in North Carolina. And he's got this reputation of being maybe the finest active general in our army. For every day that he was wearing that, having a star on his shoulder, now he's up to four. He was let go less night and he was fired. And I don't know why, but it seems to be a personal animus with somebody within the Secretary of War's cabinet because I know he's not from talking to him, he's had no negative interactions. You know him too and you know who a war fighter is and who knows politics to go far in the military. What do you think of General Donahue and how do you feel about it being let go go?

[Senator Tim Sheehy]

Well, there's no question that CD as we all call him, is one of our absolute best general officers. There's no question he's a tremendous career service and we both come from the special operations world and we both work together on some of the same units over our deployment. So tremendous respect for CD and it definitely is a loss of the nation he's retiring from. My understanding was he was going to retire and did retire. I just saw him a few weeks ago in Europe and you know, my understanding was he was retiring. I didn't hear that he was specifically fired per se, but.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Well, he was. He was told to retire. How about that?

[Karl Rove]

He was told.

[Senator Tim Sheehy]

Yeah, I think it was clear that he was showing that there's not going to be a next career progression for him. So I think you're right in that point that, you know, there was not going to be a next step. Listen, that's a loss. You know, I have a great relationship with our Secretary of Defense, Secretary of War now and I think he's doing a much needed realignment of the gofo, the General officer Flag Officer Corps. I think that there would have been a great benefit to the army for CD to have, you know, a future role. Whether that was his choice or someone else's choice? The bottom line is, you know, he's retiring and moving on. He's leaving an incredible career behind him. But I think there's no question it'll be a loss to the army, but we also have some fantastic leaders across the rest of the formation.

[Karl Rove]

Yeah.

[Senator Tim Sheehy]

So it's a loss and CDs a great man. But at the same time, I think, I think Hegseth and his team are doing a much needed realignment and also reduction of the GOFO Corps. We had way too many GO FOS

[Brian Kilmeade]

officers, flag officers, but it's like telling Tom Brady to retire at 35 knowing he'd win three more Super Bowls by the time he's 45. J.D. vance said this about, about Israel do the one where it says, Wake up.

[Alexi Lalas]

Over the last three months, two thirds of the defensive weapons that have protected

[Brian Kilmeade]

your homeland have been built by American

[Alexi Lalas]

hands and paid for by American tax dollars. The problem for Israel is not Donald J. Trump.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And anybody in Israel who thinks their biggest problem is the President of the

[Alexi Lalas]

United States needs to wake up and

[Brian Kilmeade]

smell the reality of the situation. We're up against a break, but your thoughts about that.

[Senator Tim Sheehy]

Listen, at the end of the day, Israel is our closest ally in the region, hands down. And it's true the rest of the world is turning on Israel right now, but that's not something we should revel in. That's we should be extremely disturbed by because they're fighting for their very survival and they're probably the only nation in that region that truly reflects American values. And there's no question I'll stand with them always. Not because of some APAC influencer campaign, as everyone loves to say. It's simply because they are the only beacon of democracy, freedom and liberty in the region. They've been our closest ally from intelligence to military cooperation. I'd be be quite honest to say I believe we've gotten more out of our partnership with Israel than they have over the years because their ability to collect intelligence, help us target and help us know what's going to happen before it happens has saved many, many American lives.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Senator Sheehy, I couldn't agree more. And you're the one doing it. Senator Tim Sheehy, thanks so much. Good luck in your meeting with the president today.

[Senator Tim Sheehy]

All right, thanks, Brian.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Back in a moment.

[Senator Tim Sheehy]

It's Brian Kilme.

[Alexi Lalas]

Radio.

[Brian Kilmeade]

That makes you think this is the Brian Kilmeade Show.

[Alexi Lalas]

If I were there now, I would, I would give the Iranians about a week to actually deliver on allowing Americans to come in and inspect everything, anytime, anywhere. Inspections by Americans on the ground in Iran.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And if they didn't do that, and if they couldn't demonstrate that they were

[Alexi Lalas]

serious about getting rid of all the infrastructure to build ballistic missiles, I'd reinstitute the blockade and I'd put more economic pain on them. I would keep the strait open, but I'd certainly keep it open in a

[Brian Kilmeade]

way that the Omanis and the Iranians can't even begin to think about charging

[Alexi Lalas]

a toll or a registration fee or underwriting ships that are going through that strait. It is international waterway. It's why we went to war.

[Brian Kilmeade]

That is Secretary of State. That is Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and he is it out. Listen, this is the deal you have. This is how to make the best of it. And that's what's got to be. Take the frozen funds, pay back the families that have been abused, and rebuild our bases. Breaking news, unique opinions.

[Senator Tim Sheehy]

Hear it all on the Brian. Kill.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Kill me, Joe.

[Mark Pincus]

Abolish ice. Free Palestine, Organize your union

[Brian Kilmeade]

and join gsa. We have to use every tool in the toolbox to make sure that we abolish ice.

[Trey Gowdy]

It was not the end of a political movement.

[Brian Kilmeade]

It was the beginning. The House. Yeah. Jamal Bowman. No wonder he lost. He's so civil. By the way, he can't even wear a college shirt to a rally. That is Trey for. Joining us now is Trey G. To comment on this. Former Chairman of House Oversight, host of the wildly successful Sunday Night in America with Trey gowdy, Sundays at 9 o', clock, author of a brand new book, the Color of Death. It's a novel. Trey. Welcome to. Welcome back.

[Trey Gowdy]

Hey, Brian.

[Brian Kilmeade]

How are you?

[Trey Gowdy]

You know, I can't think of Jamal Bowman without thinking about my local fire department.

[Karl Rove]

Exactly.

[Trey Gowdy]

Just me or.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Well, I mean, he lost twice. Didn't get the message. He's more radical than ever. Every other word is an expletive out of his mouth. And he did pull the fire alarm and then deny it, but they caught him on film. But thankfully, Mike Law or beat him twice, hopefully Laura can be successful again. But I wanted to play that montage for you because that. That's the mindset. That one in New York City. And being that you're not in New York City, unlike where I'm at now, do you believe this is a blue bubble or is that bubble beginning to spread?

[Trey Gowdy]

I think it's going to spread a little bit, but only. Only because so few people vote in primaries. If you go back and look at how many people enabled AOC to beat Joe Crowley? It's a pretty small number now. She's a household name now. And some of these other comrades may become household names too. It's, it's like the most extreme elements of the House Freedom Caucus. Not the normal guys, not like Jimmy Jordan and others, but the most extreme. I think the volume outpaces the size. Look, New York, you know, Martha, you know, I love Martha McCallum. So do you. I made this comment to her earlier. It's hard, it is hard to live in New York right now. And I just. If you're a business, you don't feel wanted, if you're a person of any means. I just, I don't get like wanting to tax success. But I think socialism is a movement. But politically the power is going to be concentrated in urban centers and will be offset, you know, by the rest of the, the people that did not go to mental hospitals in South Carolina.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I look at Platner in Maine, not an urban setting. And he destroyed a more center, not center, but a left wing liberal governor, well known. I know she's 78 years old. That was an issue. But Platner, being a socialist, he embraced Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders really led him through. Elizabeth Warren let him through. And this other theme of antisemitism is one of the reasons that Dan Gold, who was just a firebrand liberal who just got crushed by Brad Lander, who stands for nothing, former DSA member, but now is firmly in their corner. He says it is anti Semitism. Listen to what Dan said yesterday after losing cut 12. What I am most concerned about is that it is clearly veering from the opposition to what another government is doing into outright anti Semitism, which is on the rise. Something I certainly felt during this campaign and is something that the entire Democratic Party, not just Jews, are going to have to grapple with. You agree with that, right?

[Trey Gowdy]

Yeah, I think both parties are having to grapple with things right now. I mean, look, I was no fan of Goldman's. I thought he was really unfair to the President. But the notion that he's somehow insufficiently liberal to represent even New York, New York is crazy. I mean, it wouldn't even close. But then you look on the other hand and you see Republicans with like 99% voting records with the president and they get washed out. Look, you raised Maine. That's a great point. That is statewide, but it's also a very small state. So Graham Platner, maybe he can convince sufficient people in Maine. I'm not convinced he's going to. What really alarms me is when you confront voters with his Nazi tattoo, with his treatment of women, they don't care. And my fear is like, character just doesn't matter in politics anymore. It just, I mean, I was telling Tim Scott the other day, the reason I love him is not just that he votes the right way. He votes and acts the right way. And now I think it just matters, like what comes out of your mouth. People don't care about your personal conduct.

[Brian Kilmeade]

That's true. I mean, Platner is the biggest example. But hopefully Susan Collins pounds him in the, in the polls. But what they believe, abolishing prisons, this Chevrolet, whatever her name is, she wants to abolish prisons. Go ahead.

[Trey Gowdy]

That gives you an opening. And as skilled as you are, then I want you to ask the audience, do you really want Dylann Roof in the House next to you? That's who killed nine black Christians at Mother Emanuel. Do you really want the Boston Marathon? We Republicans have got to do a better job of personalizing that to say that we want to abolish prisons or no one serves us in this longer than 10 years. Start putting a face with that. Start putting. Dylann Roof killed nine people because they happen to be worn black. And these crazy people want him in the neighborhood with you. I just don't think there's much of an audience for that.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I hear you. They also know what's so interesting is I think need to be investigated. I'll keep saying it. The DSA is now more powerful than the dnc. They certainly had the momentum. I want to know how much money is coming outside our borders. That needs to be investigated immediately. We know that ActBlue is being investigated and we have the CEO saying basically taking the fifth on that. We have to. That's got to be done right now.

[Trey Gowdy]

By the way. You know this, but I want to make sure all of your listeners know this. There is no general right to silence. There is a right to not incriminate yourself. So when somebody takes the Fifth, you can't take the Fifth on a question that's non incriminating. So anytime you hear someone like the head of ActBlue invoking the fifth, you should just think to yourself, she's done something wrong and she doesn't want to talk about it. And that should tell you about all you need to know about that group.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah. Lastly, Alan Wilson wins big Republican nomination. So that's not. That's a little bit. President endorsed both categories candidates. But I want to bring over to the Iran situation. You know, Iran says one thing, President says another. Looks like weapons inspectors are going to come in. There's got to be an American in that group if they're going to come in. What concerns, where do we start? What do we, what concerns do we have on the MoU and these talks that are now five days old?

[Trey Gowdy]

It's one of those situations where I'm extremely pessimistic that yet hope I'm wrong. I read the MoU. I was not a fan of it. I think part of this is because we have elections and the Iranians do not. And, you know, if I were giving the President advice, which I try really hard not to, I would get Marco Rubio and John Ratcliffe and himself out there and convince the American people nobody likes war, nobody likes paying higher prices. But what we're trying to do will echo through the halls of history. And I'm just asking you to sacrifice a little bit long. The Iranians don't have to ask their people to sacrifice, but we do. I think a lot of what's happening with the, with the strait being closed is kind of being governed by the prospect of us having a bad midterm. If we did not have the midterms coming, I think our patience level would be a little bit higher. The strait, I think we should close it again. It is international water. It doesn't belong to them. Our allies need to get off of their fat behinds and come help us. But I just don't want to give money to the Iranians. I don't want the Iranians to have all money because we both know they're not going to build schools for girls, Brian. They're going to kill people.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I hear you. No wonder you have such a great show. Highly rated. Sunday night in America with Trey Gowdy sets the standard for the whole week. Sundays at 9:00'. Clock. Trey, thanks so much, brother.

[Trey Gowdy]

I am the lead in for the most talented man on television, Brian Kilmeade. You're the closest closer, man.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I, I do. I do.

[Alexi Lalas]

Come on.

[Brian Kilmeade]

After you. That's the only thing I'll give you, but thanks so much, Trey. 10 o'.

[Karl Rove]

Clock.

[Trey Gowdy]

Back in a moment, brother.

[Brian Kilmeade]

You got it. From breaking news to big name guests, Brian brings you insight you won't hear anywhere else.

[Senator Tim Sheehy]

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[Catherine Limbaugh]

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[Senator Tim Sheehy]

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[Brian Kilmeade]

We are back and it's my privilege to bring in Fox's number one analyst of the World cup and fantastic player in his day, Alexi Lalas, one of our favorite guests. Whether the World Cup's happening in America or not, Lexi, you haven't. You're personally having a great Cup. I know you don't judge yourself ever since you took the uniform off, but I, I do. It's been great getting your insight and seeing the sports. Barring on the set, how do you gauge it so far? What, what part of the cup has surpassed your expectations? And what do you still wait and see mode on?

[Alexi Lalas]

Well, first off, good morning. Thank you. We are knee deep into this now. Okay, so a couple of things have, I guess surprised me. The speed in which this World cup has been embraced by America. Not that it wouldn't have happened, just again, the speed in which it happened. I think that's been huge. I think, you know, on the field, some of the amazing things that we have seen, whether it's, you know, debut having really, really good performances, whether it's the stars showing up on a consistent basis. And as you know, that doesn't always happen. And yet they are bringing it day after day after day. And then I guess it would be the appreciation of America through the lens of the World Cup. We are seeing visitors that come here and almost remind us about how awesome this country is. And then we are also seeing, like I said, Americans kind of come into the tent. We talked about this before the, the World Cup. America wants to celebrate America and this World cup through this team, the US Team, but also through the World cup is giving us an opportunity to just kind of, even for a couple hours a day, celebrate what America is and celebrate this great game. And through that lens of the World

[Brian Kilmeade]

Cup, I want to play a little of Gianni, Gianna Infantino, who was on with me yesterday. Cut 33. Well, we see an incredible enthusiasm everywhere in every host city. The cities are full. The stadiums are full, sold out, 19, 9.6% attendance.

[Karl Rove]

The fan zones are more than 3

[Brian Kilmeade]

million people in the fan zones already in the official ones, but the cities are full. We see the Norwegians, the Brazilians, the Argentinians are everywhere. The fans, the Scots, they were in Boston, now they are in Miami. I mean, it's fantastic.

[Karl Rove]

The agnostic is great.

[Brian Kilmeade]

He's selling, I get it. But he's actually right.

[Alexi Lalas]

He's.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Everything he said was right.

[Alexi Lalas]

Look, knock on wood, that it continues and everybody has a wonderful time. It continues to have a wonderful time that everybody is safe and that we go on. But a lot of the sky is falling type of narratives that were before the World Cup. When it came to attendance and organization, they have petered out for now, and that's a good thing. The stadiums have been wonderful in terms of the atmosphere. As Johnny Infantino, the head of FIFA, said, they have been full. They have been unique and wonderful and diverse in terms of bringing people in from all over the place. And he mentioned the fan fest. It's not just the fan fest in terms of the official organized fan fest, which have been huge, but also the bars are full and the restaurants are full. I was in a. I was in a plane the other day and I, you know, I had put my head down and I was doing some work and at the end of the flight, I stood up and every single screen was on the World Cup. So people even that aren't into soccer recognize this is an event and they are watching.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So, Lexi, let me play. Let's talk about the US Team and set. Thankfully, this first time we talked since they got on a roll, they have had two games. They look real good. I didn't love the last 30 minutes. Minutes against. It was much different the last 30 minutes, in my view, against Australia. But today you don't. Tomorrow we don't need this game. America doesn't need to win the game. So how do you approach it? Who sits, who starts?

[Alexi Lalas]

Yeah, I think it's dangerous for the team and I think it's even dangerous for us on the outside to say this game doesn't matter. As you know, in sports, momentum is everything and this team is flying right now in terms of confidence. There will be changes and that's completely necessary. We are in this luxury position, position of the third game. We've already won the group after having won the first two games. But I'm greedy. I'm greedy, Brian. I want to win all three games. I want to continue to make a statement and I don't want to lose any of the momentum on the field or off the field. In terms of people that keep coming

[Brian Kilmeade]

into the tent, how many yellow cards? How many people have one yellow card? How many players?

[Alexi Lalas]

We had a bunch of players. Four different players out there, including players.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Would you sit them?

[Alexi Lalas]

Yeah, you got. You got to sit them. Because as important and wonderful, wonderful. And I think the game tomorrow against Turkey is going to be a celebration of this team and what they have already done. There'll be a competitive aspect and I want to win it. Like I said, I'm greedy. But there's also has to be a recognition of a greater good that comes in the round of 32. That's going to be played up in San Francisco. We don't know the opponent yet, but that is, you know, a knockout type of game, and you want everybody ready for that. And so you can't risk having a player get another yellow card and having

[Mark Pincus]

to sit out there.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I saw the whole thing, the odds. They say it's going to be Bosnia, but there's a lot of games left to be played. But who would you like to see on the bench? Would you want to see Raina start? Would you want to see way. A start?

[Alexi Lalas]

Yeah, I think we haven't seen way of this tournament. I think we'd see. We'd see him. Ricardo Pepe up top instead of Baligan. And, you know, I love Baligan, but he's on a yellow, so it's. There are plenty of quality players and certainly enough talent to get this third win and to make history in terms of winning every single group game. And these are. These are wonderful times, and this is a wonderful team. And this team has been building, built on depth.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Pulisic, would you play him?

[Alexi Lalas]

Yeah, I think you. I think you got him. I mean, he was training full, and there's a. This balance of. Yeah, you want to rest players and give players so they're as. As healthy as possible, but also you got to get into a groove. And it's not that he's going to forget how to play soccer, but I. I definitely would play Christian Pulisic and. And, you know, let him go out there and lead this kind of different group and hopefully with the same race results.

[Brian Kilmeade]

But, you know, you worried. You said he's training. Is he training his other players or is he training on his own?

[Alexi Lalas]

Yeah, no, he's not training alone anymore. We found out from our Jenny Taft that he is training and in full training. And so that's a. That's a good thing. Nobody is ever 100%. Last time, many of us were 100%, we were 10 years old. So that's never going to happen. But he is training with all the other players, and it's not any specialized thing right now in terms of his injury.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So in terms of you and Abramovich, you guys have a great sparring session on the set. How do you think it's going? Are you guys really friends? I think it's really intriguing to see you guys disagree.

[Alexi Lalas]

Yeah. So there's, you know, there's. There's a, you know, a wonderful drama brewing in terms of our set with me and Zlatan Ibrahimovic, wonderful legend of the game alongside Thierry Henry. So I'm surrounded by some, some incredibly talented gentlemen on the field and off the field. Lots of ego flying around. We have back and forth. We agree, we, we disagree, but it's kind of must see right now. But I, I have a tremendous amount of love and respect for the work that I, that they're doing and certainly the wrangler over there, when it comes to Rebecca Low trying to keep us all in order, that is not an easy job, my friend. But, but it's fun. Bring it on in. You know, we have, we have good moments and bad moments and we agree and we disagree, but that's part of the fun.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So listen, this is the hardest question yet. Tim Howard came out, maybe the finest goalkeeper America will ever produce and said, get over it. America's not winning the World Cup. Landon Donovan said, walter, why not? They got to play their best games ever. What does Alexi Lala say?

[Alexi Lalas]

So it's interesting as I'm looking at these teams in this particular World cup and the amount of teams that I say, well, you would need an act of the soccer gods for us to beat them has diminished to the point where that belief, I think is justified in this particular tournament with as good as this US Team is and is capable of being able to as not weak, but weaker in terms of the actual elites when you're, I mean, look, Argentina's flying right right now. Spain is still going to be there. France is just incredibly, you know, good. But the opportunity and the pathway, again, you win your group now you're in an easier pathway. That's something I think America can grab a hold on and be very, very excited about. So, yeah, why not us?

[Brian Kilmeade]

Love it. Lexi Lalas, thanks so much. Good to get you. Great to get you the halfway halftime show and then we'll get you tomorrow on FOX and Friends. Lexi, thanks so much. You got it. Back in a moment. BRIAN K. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sewing division is Brian Kilmeade. Thanks so much for being there. It's the Brian Kilmeade show. We have a lot going on this hour. Catherine Limbaugh is going to be joining us, chief executive officer of Rush Limbaugh's legacy. And he's got great history books, children's history books that they're re releasing for charity. And everybody wants to think about 250. He did a great job. I think it's not so much children's like until five years old, more like eight to 14, which is the perfect age when he could really get people excited about our past which to me all you have to do is introduce it. That usually is enough. And Karl Rove is standing by. So let's get to the big three. Number three. Well, we see an incredible enthusiasm everywhere in every host city. The cities are full, the stadiums are full, the atmosphere is great. People are coming and they want to come to America. Really. Okay. Gianni infantino, I think you're 100% were right. World cup better by day as legends Ronaldo and Messi find the back of the net. Global fans are celebrating our nation and the US shows all they are ready as a team to make history. Number two, this has been signed, has been agreed. Nuclear activities that are going to be

[Catherine Limbaugh]

carried out will be supervised by the iaea.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Rafael Grassi Head of the the iaea. Chaotic start for the Iran talks but they are going to get weapons inspectors in. Mimi, nuclear inspectors in. The question is at what cost will there be Americans in that delegation? I have suggestions.

[Mark Pincus]

Number one, abolish ICE free Palestine and join gsa.

[Brian Kilmeade]

It was not the end of a political movement. It was the beginning. And socialism in the mother House. Victorious night for socialists in New York City as Mayor Mamdani goes 3 for 3 over Akeem Jeffries replacing liberals with radicals. What it means for the part of the city and what it means for the party in the midterm elections. I got mixed reviews because a lot of people are saying, a lot of people are saying, well this is just a blue bubble. What does Karl Rove think? You know Carl, Wall Street Journal columnist, Fox News contributor, done everything. Best selling authority. Carl, when you see what you're outside New York, I'm in the middle of it. When you see it, do you look this is a bubble or something more.

[Karl Rove]

Well, this is a representative of the extremes of New York City. And let me just tell you, somebody standing up saying let's abolish ICE or I don't have any nuance. F. Kamala Harris. Let's have free kindergarten, free health care, free pre K, free childcare, free college. College that ain't going to sell in Comanche, Texas. It ain't going to sell in, you know, rural Ohio. It's not going to sell in most of the country might, may sell in Boston, may sell in San Francisco, may sell in some parts of la. But this is representative of an out of touch, far left view of America that doesn't, that doesn't sell well across the country.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I wouldn't think so. But listen to what they believe. They don't forget Abolished prisons. We can't forget that. Cut one,

[Mark Pincus]

abolish ice. Free Palestine, organize your union and join dsa.

[Brian Kilmeade]

We have to use every tool in the toolbox to make sure that we abolish ice. It was not the end of a political movement. It was the beginning. Is socialism in the house. And the DSA now, obviously, Jamali Bowman is a joke. Pulled a fire alarm, lost twice to Mike Lawler. Getting more radical by the day. But Carl, the DSA has got to be addressed. I want to know who's financing them. Same with ActBlue. This has to be. We have to pound that into the ground. This is somebody else's agenda. You don't become a socialist in America with a major movement like this. It's got to be financed outside our borders. If not, I want to find out and make sure it's not.

[Karl Rove]

Yeah, well, first of all, it would be illegal if they were accepting foreign money.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Sure.

[Karl Rove]

My sense is they're not that dumb. But look, we've had socialists in America for years. Milwaukee had a socialist mayor. What's unusual about this is that it's not merely the socialist nostrums of the government's going to come in and take over the, you know, the means of production. It is now also with a whole bunch of weird cultural stuff and foreign policy views that are antithetical to what America stands for. We now have a member of the United States Congress who says that America deserved 9, 11. And we have somebody who attended a celebration on October 8th of the attacks of Hamas on Israel on October 7th. I mean, celebrated the slaughter of innocent. So this is not the normal. This is not our grandfather's socialism. This is today's very left wing, very dangerous, very, very much at odds with the American experiment. That's what we're facing today.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So listen to this. Within the Democratic Party, you're an outsider here. You're just observing. This is not Republican Democrat yet. Listen to Brad Lander, by the way, who took out a very left wing Trump pater in in Dan Goldman. Goldman over in New York City. Cut to our party needs to admit that Joe Biden's hug Bibi strategy was a catastrophic failure. I believe it made us complicit in genocide. Bombs we paid for killed over 70,000 Palestinians, mostly women and children. Tanks we sent made over a million people homeless.

[Mark Pincus]

Humanitarian aid is still not getting in

[Brian Kilmeade]

the hug of Joe Biden. They're not talking about George Bush. They're not talking about Donald Trump. The hug of Joe Biden. A Bibi after the October 7 attack was a mistake.

[Karl Rove]

Yeah, look, this again, this is New York. So this guy now represents lower Manhattan and some of the more liberal parts of, of Brooklyn. One of these new members represents what's called the Commie Corridor, Northern Brooklyn and Southern Queens. But let me just tell you, he's Jewish. Yeah, this guy's lander is Jewish. This, this, this guy. And the two women who got elected are now today unsettling Democrats in places like Middletown, Ohio, and Dallas, Texas. I mean, you know, south. You think in South Texas, they're going to go for abolishing ice? You know, they. This is a nut. A nutty agenda now may sell well in parts of the four, four of the five boroughs of New York City. But the Democrats outside of New York City are beginning to think, oh, really? We're going to have to defend this stuff in battleground districts in Nebraska and Ohio and Pennsylvania, and we're going to try and hope to swing Senate seats in places like Maine and Alaska with nuts like this being the face of our party. You know, look, the Republicans had an insurgent movement in 2010, the Tea Party movement, and it unsettled the establishment of the Republican Party because these were newcomers, but they were generally in agreement with the basic philosophy of the Republican Party and conservative movement. Less government, lower taxes, focus on economic growth. These people are at war with what the Democratic Party stands for. You can remember the time when a New York Democrat was, if you'll thought about them, they were a New York cop, they were a Catholic priest, they were a working class family of ethnic origins who were looking to find their way up. And it was a bunch of Jews. And now they're at war and they are saying people like that, the cop, the Catholic priest, the observant Jew, the small business person, the entrepreneur, the person who had a social conscience but was a business person. Those people have no role in our party because we're left wingers.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So if you are Hakeem Jeffries today, what do you do? You lost and you're supposed to be speaker. Are you still the leader?

[Karl Rove]

Well, he's going to have, you know, you think that the Freedom Caucus has been problematic for Republican speakers like John Boehner and even the current speaker. Think about what Hakeem Jeffries is going to face if the Democrats do take the House and he becomes the leader of that House caucus. These people are going to be demanding votes on things like free kindergarten and abolish ICE and constrict, you know, the immigration authorities and open the borders and cut the military and Reduce Trump for law enforcement. You know, impeach Trump. I mean, this is going to be, if he becomes speaker, if the Democrats take the House, the majority might be made by left wingers like this from places on the east coast and the far west, west coast.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So let's talk about Iran, if we could. The president United states yesterday cut fifth, cut 18. You want to see trouble?

[Karl Rove]

Let them have a nuclear weapon.

[Brian Kilmeade]

We're doing very well with Iran. They've been decimated, and we're making a deal with them, and we'll see how that all goes. And right now, as you probably heard Yesterday, we had 19 barrels of oil, 19 million barrels of oil come off. And that's the biggest, strongest in the history of the strait, the Hormuz Strait. Our stock market is through the roof and oil prices are tumbling. We actually hit for a moment today,

[Karl Rove]

in fact, I think it's going to break it. $70 a barrel.

[Brian Kilmeade]

That's lower than we were when we started. And it's been amazing.

[Karl Rove]

And the big thing is Iran will

[Brian Kilmeade]

not have a nuclear weapon. Where are we at, Carl? You know, it's like dealing with that region.

[Karl Rove]

Yeah. Well, look there. The president's making three big bets. The first bet is, is that the economy will be in better shape because oil prices will come down. The second bet is that he is going to be able to get a good deal with the Iranians that will constrict their nuclear programs and constrict their presence in the, in the, in the region. And finally, a big bet that Iran is going to live up to that agreement. So the first one, I think the economy is going to get better because oil prices are going to come, come down, and that's going to power the recovery. But the other two are very much up in the air. And I worry about the callousness of the Iranians and I worry about the, you know, the president not thinking some of these things through. I thought it was incredibly problematic that he said, well, of course they can have ballistic missiles. Others in the region have them, so why can't they? Well, doesn't he understand that the Iranians have been trying to develop an intercontinental ballistic missile to strike the United States? They've already got a missile that can go 4,000 miles and strike our bases at Diego Garcia. You put an intercontinental ballistic missile and marry a nuclear warhead on it. And we live in a much different world if Iran achieves that. And the president said something very wise in 2020 when he was criticizing the Obama agreement with Iran. He, he said Iran has never won a war, but they have never lost a negotiation. And I think he needs to carry that in mind when he's talking about like giving them $300 billion. Where's that coming from? Out of the pockets of our allies in the region. You think they want to give Iran $300 billion? You know, what about reducing our presence in the region? The Iranians are demanding that. Why are we silent on their support of terrorist movements? We have JD Vance criticism Israel at the very moment when the Israelis are trying to get deal with Hezbollah and the president of Lebanon is saying I want Hezbollah out of our country and that's nowhere in the negotiations support for the terrorist movements that Iran has been providing for decades.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I 100% agree with you. I want you people to hear what J.D. vance said about Israel. Donald J. Trump is the only head

[Alexi Lalas]

of state in the entire world who

[Brian Kilmeade]

is simply sympathetic to the nation of Israel at this moment in time.

[Alexi Lalas]

And he happens to be the head

[Brian Kilmeade]

of state of the world superpower. If I was in the cabinet of

[Alexi Lalas]

the Israeli government, I might not be attacking the only powerful ally that I

[Brian Kilmeade]

have anywhere left in the entire world.

[Alexi Lalas]

And the second message I would give

[Brian Kilmeade]

to some of those cabinet members, Bibi

[Alexi Lalas]

to his credit has not gone down this path.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So I was wildly insulted and angered by that of kind comment. And you, I wonder what you thought.

[Karl Rove]

If I were the vice president United States, I would not be kicking our ally around in the Middle east to a stood by us through thick and thin. And it represents an important part of our, of our foreign policy. Our commitment to Israel is strong. It's important for us to support the only democracy in the region and it is particularly strong important for us to be strong when they have to deal with terrorists on their bodies borders. And why aren't we up there saying you know what, Iran, we want you to stop support of Hezbollah. We want to stand in support of not only Israel but of the freedom of Lebanon. You're so concerned about the sovereignty of Iran, how about showing some respect for the sovereignty of Israel and Lebanon by withdrawing your support of Hezbollah. Instead they get this lecture from the vice president. I thought it was over the top and insulting.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah, I thought so too. And I would add I know Setona's been different since and I saw that one of the key Jewish supporters of the president Adelson came out and said I'm going to withdraw my support if that basically if it happens again or she's withdrawing her support entirely.

[Karl Rove]

Sheldon Adelson's widow, Miriam Dr. Miriam Adelson, who's a terrific human being. And look, the president has a great many allies, I suspect, who have said to him, Mr. President, why are you allowing the vice president to go out there and gratuitously insult Israel? He didn't need to say those things. He could have made his point that the President is a strong advocate for Israel. And I hope the Israelis, the Israeli government, the Israeli people understand that we stand firmly with you and we're working on behalf of the peace of the region. That would have been appropriate. And then make your private comments to them. Bibi, tell the minister to shut up. But to do with that public publicly was like, you know, it was like a, you know, beating his chest and looking, Trying to look like a big guy. And instead he looked like he was simply going out of his way to insult one of our great allies.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah, I think that in the big picture, I think this is the time you stand by your allies. It doesn't matter what the rest of the world thinks. You know, we watch Europe and their anti Semitism rage. We watch it sometimes in the Middle east, but thanks to the great work of the previous administration, previous Trump administration, administration, we got a bunch of Gulf states with good relations with Israel. And we also have one country, the uae, got a piece of the Iron Dome from Israel. So we. Everybody knows Israel does not attack people that don't attack them. That's pretty clear.

[Karl Rove]

No. And anyway, but we've wasted enough time on the vice president. I hope he got a sharp lecture when he got home from the president, and if not, I hope he got some candid advice from his administration advisors that you didn't do yourself. Or more importantly, do the United States any good by going out of the way to insult Israel?

[Brian Kilmeade]

Talarico, do you think he's doing a good job in defining himself, or do you think Paxon is doing a good job defining Talarico?

[Karl Rove]

Paxton's not doing any kind of a job in defining Talarico. The tension is all inside Camp Talarico because he's tried to be smart by moderating his views. For example, you know, we need to support. Support the police. And I voted for a state budget that dramatically increased support for law enforcement. But his record keeps coming up and biting him. So the question is going to be, how does he handle that over the course of the campaign? My sense is he's going to handle it by continually trying to be moderate in tone and voice and point to the parts of his record where he did things like vote for the state Budget. But he, I think he's going to try and cover up for the very left wing views that he has has by going after Paxton over all of the scandals in his background. Look, I live in Austin. Austin is like Moscow on the Little Colorado River. I mean, you talk about a left wing place. And Talarico originally popped up by taking a suburban Republican seat in the county north of us, Williamson county, and by being a sort of moderate sounding Democrat. And then they redistricted him with his agreement so that most of his district now is in northern Travis county, which is, which is, you know, the People's Republic of Travis County. And he came out with his true beliefs, which are very left wing. So the tension is going to be for the next, you know, for the next five months. How does he deal with, with the aspect of that at the same time that he's trying to move to the center in order to get disaffected Republicans and independents. And he's got a shot there. Remember, even before all of these scandals came out, Paxton trailed the rest of the Republicans by an average of 177,000 votes eight years ago and 155 four years ago.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Besides that, you really don't know much about the race. Call Rove. Thanks so much. Awesome job. Back in a moment.

[Senator Tim Sheehy]

Both sides, all opinions.

[Brian Kilmeade]

It's Brian. Kill me.

[Senator Tim Sheehy]

The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmeade.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Hey, I got, coming up next is going to be Captain Limbaugh. You're gonna love her message. Not only remembering Rush, how great he was, also what he's done for the country in terms of the children's young adult books that he put together to keep the American story entertaining, interesting and accurate. So as we look at America 250, you got five hard time finding people who have that patriotism on the left. Just hand your kid, hand a kid your uncle, your, your nephew, your niece, this book and just say you're gonna love this book. And then when at the end, say it all happened and then maybe you could bring him to the actual spot where it happened. If you live in the vicinity. Captain Limbaugh next.

[Trey Gowdy]

Brian Kilman.

[Brian Kilmeade]

He's so busy, he'll make the your head spin. It's Brian Kilmeade.

[Karl Rove]

We understand the great opportunity we all have as Americans.

[Brian Kilmeade]

We wish for all to achieve the American dream.

[Senator Tim Sheehy]

We wish all who want to to

[Karl Rove]

apply themselves to whatever pursuit of happiness

[Brian Kilmeade]

or excellence they desire.

[Karl Rove]

It's a rare opportunity to be born

[Brian Kilmeade]

in America and to have the These

[Senator Tim Sheehy]

blessed opportunities and all that we ask,

[Brian Kilmeade]

all that people expect, all that we

[Karl Rove]

expect is that you love America, that you recognize how fortunate you are to be an American.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And that is some of Rush Limbaugh's thoughts when he was the most dominant radio person maybe ever, certainly in my lifetime. Catherine Limbaugh joins us now, Chief executive officer on officer of the Rush Limbaugh Legacy. They have great children's books out, I think young adult books out now that talk about that talk about America's history in a fun, entertaining, but accurate way. And that is missing from a lot of curriculums around the country. Katherine, welcome back to the Brian Kilmeade Show. Great to see you.

[Catherine Limbaugh]

Thank you so much, Brian. I'm happy to be back.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Right. You said you feel comfortable in the news environment.

[Catherine Limbaugh]

Yes. Oh, I love it. Just being in a studio again. I'm like, oh, I'm back, I'm home.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Because for a while after Rush passed away, you were. You were on a lot for a year or so.

[Catherine Limbaugh]

Yeah, Right afterwards I was just for a period of time so that we could, you know, continue to talk to everyone. He considered his audience to be extended family, as I do. So it was our way of just keeping connected.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Well, what have the last few years been like?

[Catherine Limbaugh]

Oh, goodness, the first couple years were really tough. You know, we lost such an important voice. Just hearing him talk about the United States and patriotism reminds me that that voice is so sorely missed. But thank goodness there' like you that are keeping that going, especially with everything happening here in New York. I picked the wrong day yesterday to come into New York with socialism on, on the agenda, but perhaps it's the right day for me to be here.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Is Florida still home?

[Catherine Limbaugh]

Yeah, Florida partly in Tennessee.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Right. So those two areas which almost feel isolated from what we're experiencing here.

[Catherine Limbaugh]

Exactly.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Do you feel now that you come into the bubble, do you feel like this push for so much socialism and far leftism is in a bubble, or do you feel it's permeating throughout the country?

[Catherine Limbaugh]

I hope it's not right here in particular Tennessee or. Not really. Not to the extent of here at all. It's honestly scary what's happening here in New York right now. And just knowing that this is becoming sort of relatively mainstream within New York in certain areas is absolutely crazy. I think if Rush was here right now, he would say this is insane. There's actual insanity going on with what people are thinking about. Tennessee. Less so, for sure. Florida Free State.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah, it is. And it's becoming more an enclave. And they feel like America is being sectioned off between that and the gerrymandering, because people just say, okay, Republicans in power, we're gonna gerrymander to get the maximum Republican seat. Democrats in power are gonna gerrymander to make the maximum Democratic seats. So put less in play. They say only about 18 seats of 400 are in play. Do you worry about that for the country? Do you think we should have more competition, competitive districts?

[Catherine Limbaugh]

I do worry. I see. I worry a lot about what's happening generally across the board. And I think that's what Rush would be saying to all of us, is we have to continue to put out the message that our fundamental American values that we were founded with are incredibly important. So I think that it's important for each one of us to continue to say we have to hold on to our principles. We have to hold on to what makes us free, what makes us the United States of America, and not let us go the way of socialism.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah. Here's more from Rush.

[Karl Rove]

America allows you to love yourself. America allows you to think you're the

[Brian Kilmeade]

greatest thing on earth. America allows you to have confidence and bravado.

[Karl Rove]

America allows you the opportunity to put

[Brian Kilmeade]

what you think is best on.

[Alexi Lalas]

On trial and see if it flies.

[Karl Rove]

It's always been what America is about. This is a miraculous country. We wanted everybody who sees the flag

[Senator Tim Sheehy]

to know just how lucky we are

[Karl Rove]

to be Americans, to be free.

[Brian Kilmeade]

What incredible early patriots did.

[Karl Rove]

To establish this country and preserve and

[Brian Kilmeade]

protect freedom and guarantee. Guarantee it and go ahead.

[Catherine Limbaugh]

Yeah, no, that's exactly it. I think, you know, Rush always talked about that, how incredibly miraculous our country is and its founding. He would say the American dream is very much still alive. No matter what's being said out there, no matter what's happening in New York. The American dream, every single individual has an opportunity here. And we can never lose that. We can never lose sight of that. And I know that Rush would say it's never time to panic, no matter what's. What's happening.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And is that what prompt him to write those young. I think they're not children. Young adult books, right?

[Karl Rove]

Yes.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I mean, it's like 8 to 14.

[Catherine Limbaugh]

Yeah. Some years ago, Rush revere. Rush revere. Some years ago, he saw that there was a real void for accurate, patriotic American history. And he wanted to do something beyond what he was doing on the radio to connect to the younger demographic. So it was geared towards the fifth grade reading level. A little bit older, a little bit younger. But we heard from hundreds of Thousands of young Americans who first, they're enjoying history for the first time, and they're enjoying reading. But what Rush wanted to do was take young patriots, young readers, back in time to be at the Mayflower, on the Mayflower, to be part of the American Revolution. He used Rush Revere, which was an American history teacher, and his substitute. His substitute American history teacher and his horse, Rush, Liberty the horse. I've confused them totally today, but Liberty the horse, back in time to be a part of American history.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And when people want to order the books, where do they go?

[Catherine Limbaugh]

Well, we're hoping they'll be everywhere that they normally find books. We joked about this yesterday when I was on a couple of programs, that they may be in the back somewhere if. If they're here in New York, but hopefully anywhere that you. You look for books, hopefully they'll be there.

[Brian Kilmeade]

All right, good. What about your background? Like you. You tell me how many different countries you lived in, how much you enjoying the World cup now? I grew up with soccer in my neighborhood in the 70s, so I've been playing since I was in second grade. So soccer is not new to me. But so many people said, I'm getting into it, and now I'm getting into it. But why? What got you into it?

[Catherine Limbaugh]

Oh, I love soccer. I'm glad we're talking about that. We'll talk about that in a minute. But I grew up around the world. My mother was an American diplomat. My father went to the Naval Academy and then was in international business. So we literally grew up around the world. I was born in Boston, New England, originally. Originally, my mother was part of the Adams history, her lineage. And then we traveled extensively throughout my life. I lived in Brazil for many years, and in Brazil in particular was where I loved soccer for the first time I played. Unfortunately, I peaked at 10 years old because I thought I was going to be on the World cup team, but I peaked at 10. I was a center forward for many years, but I peaked at 10, basically because when we went to Brazil, soccer for. For young girls was not as popular as you would think. But you know what I was going to say, just back to talking about Rush Revere and talking about Liberty the Horse and. And why Rush wrote these books is because he wanted young readers and young patriots to know why our country is so important. And speaking about the World cup, you know, I've been watching a lot of the games, as I know you have, and just being able to see so many fans standing up, singing proudly, you know, holding their heart, their hand, over their hearts, being proud to be American. That's exactly the point of this book, these books. And as much as Resch would be disappointed in what's happening with the craziness of socialism, he would be absolutely thrilled to see the revival of American patriotism under President Trump. Just seeing, you know, the athletes standing up and singing on the U.S. soccer team.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Remember, they were taking a knee a few years ago.

[Catherine Limbaugh]

Exactly. And we had a huge campaign against that. We did a big thing for the Betsy Ross campaign some years ago. Stand up for Betsy Ross. So as much as Rush would say, you know, it's outrageous what's happening in terms of the socialism takeover, he would be saying that it's thrilling to see these athletes standing, the crowd screaming. You know, that's what young people need to know. Know why that the Star Spangled Banner means so much to us, why the flag means so much to us. What needed to happen in order for us to be celebrating 250 years of an incredibly miraculous country?

[Brian Kilmeade]

You know, the other thing was just if you think about. If just explain to somebody where Francis Scott Key got this poem from, why those words work, what was happening in our country. Washington. The White House had just burned. The Capitol building has just burned to the ground. The British were on the march. They wanted to take Baltimore, maybe take back the country. But it was Fort McHenry that was still there, and the flag that was still there, and it is now in the Smithsonian, which I just saw last month for a special we're doing. That flag was knitted back together, stitched back together. It was made in the middle of the War of 1812, put up to Fort McHenry, and then they fixed it again. Women were doing that at that time, and they took great pride in doing it, and they said, we better hold on to this. It'll be special. Little did we know that whole incident would be chronicled in our national anthem if you just knew that. And the flag was still there and the bombs burst in air because they sunk boats further enough back where the cannons would not hit the. Would not hit the fort, theoretically. They would burst in midair and go to the water. Yeah, and that's. That's part of it. I mean, that's the drama of our country.

[Catherine Limbaugh]

Well, that's exactly right. And that's what Rush Revere, the history teacher, wanted to do, was take young readers right there to be at Fort McHenry, to be a part of American history, and see why those lyrics mean so much to us and understand it. And I think that's what makes this book series so unique and why we're doing this. The only reason that we're really back talking about this is, one, because we're celebrating 250 years of the most miraculous country on Earth, and two, because Rush was such an iconic figure for so long. He is a huge patriot and we really want him to always be honored and recognized. And this is the way for me to do that in his legacy. And also, the books are being relaunched to raise funds for the Marine Corps Law Enforcement Foundation. We love our United States military. We're huge supporters of the military. The Marine Corps Law Enforcement foundation provides scholarships and financial aid to the children of fallen heroes, which, of course, have paid the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom that we celebrate today.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So, yeah, and that's amazing to me is because as soon as you hear Russia's voice, you expect to hear him later on today, right? 12 o'.

[Karl Rove]

Clock.

[Catherine Limbaugh]

Absolutely right.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So you hear him, you know, you forget that he's not going to be following you. And I remember I wrote him one time because it'd been about five months since he's been on at fox and, you know, he's still doing a show. And I wrote him and I just said, hey, I just want you to know it's going to. I know you can only do so much, but if you wanted to, I like to invite you on to the morning morning show if you could possibly do it. And he said, brian, thanks so much. But my focus right now is staying above the ground. And I was wondering for you and for him, what it was like knowing that what he had was terminal and why it was important for him to keep working. Could you tell me?

[Catherine Limbaugh]

Oh, absolutely. My goodness. You know, that was his entire life. I'll be honest that being behind the Golden Mic is exactly what kept him going as long as he was able to be. We would spend many days in hospitals talking about how quickly we can get chemotherapy done so that he can get back behind the microphone. That is was his total driving force. And he loved this country. He loved the listeners so incredibly much. Of course, he loved his family. But being behind the Golden Mic, talking to the United States, confronting these huge issues that we're facing, we was Russia's entire life because he was making impact

[Brian Kilmeade]

in the country now the superpower. And the other thing is his connection to Donald Trump was so strong.

[Catherine Limbaugh]

Exactly. I often say that Rush and President Trump are so similar in that they have such an extraordinary connection to people that listen to them, vote for them or follow them. It's very personal. I always said that Rush and Donald Trump don't. They don't talk at you, but they talk to you. And you feel as though, whether or not you know them personally, you feel as though you do. And I'm so thankful to President Trump for taking on the issues that he is now. He takes a lot of arrows, just like Rush did for so many years. But I'm deeply grateful that we have President Trump in office. But just going back to, you know, Rush was really facing a very difficult terminal illness, but his motivation was, how quickly can I get back to the audience? How quickly can I talk to Americans and remind them why our country is so incredible? So if he could be here right now, he would say, I would love to keep going. But unfortunately, it was a year about from diagnosis straight through to his side,

[Brian Kilmeade]

and they told him right there that this is. You can't recover from this.

[Catherine Limbaugh]

Well, it was a difficult thing because Rush didn't know about it. He was actually on the radio as it was happening. The doctor called me personally and let me know that it was stage four terminal cancer, which I knew from having a lot of experience in cancer. My father passed away from pancreatic cancer. A lot of friends and family have been affected. So I knew right away that we were facing a very daunting battle. But Rush was on the radio, and he was so happy to be there that I didn't want. And I really didn't want him to hear this while he was doing what he was born to do and love so much. So when he was off the show that day, he came home, and I asked him if he had a few minutes to talk about things, and he said yes. And he said, how'd it go? And I said, well, unfortunately, you know, it is a difficult diagnosis, but we're going to fight it. And I never let him know how much time they had placed on it, because in my mind, time is just a number. It can absolutely be changed. So we set out right then to fight it. And I said, you know, Rush, you should stay on the radio. Don't think that time is over now just because you've heard this diagnosis. I think what will absolutely keep you going is to be behind the radio. So we had to behind the mic. So we had to make adjustments. We had to. Had to, you know, strategize how we were going to be in the hospital, how he was going to be on air. But it was difficult right out of the gates. He fought incredibly hard. He never wanted to be a cancer patient. On the radio. He never wanted anyone to feel sorry for him. Instead, what he wanted was to connect to so many people that are going through hardships in their life.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah. I mean, thanks so much for sharing that. I had never known almost any of that. But you deserve a lot of credit, too, because you had to be his strength through the entire time and also knew what he was going through. And if you could hear it on the air and you had to be his coach as well as his spouse. But go out and pick up these books, it goes to a great cause. And if you have somebody in there, especially 8, 9, 10, 11, you pick up this book, they'll understand more about the country on year 250. Kathryn, thanks so much for putting us on your staff.

[Catherine Limbaugh]

You're welcome. Absolutely. Thank you, Brian. And it's Rush Revere, American history teacher, and Liberty the Horse.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Gotcha.

[Catherine Limbaugh]

I mixed them up a little earlier, but I'm back.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Captain Limbaugh, thanks so much.

[Catherine Limbaugh]

Thank you.

[Brian Kilmeade]

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