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Socialist Surge Could Destroy the Democrat Party
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The Brian Kilmeade Show 06-26-2026
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Brian Kilmeade
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Brian Kilmeade (Show Announcer)
from high atop FOX News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmeade, everyone.
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Brian Kilmeade
So glad you're there. It's the Brian Kilmeade SHOW closing out a very busy week this hour joined by Congressman John James running for governor of Michigan. We'll see how successful he will be. This is also a very, a very tough Senate race there as we look at that, how that breaks down. Democrats still looking to get a go through their primary and pick somebody to run against Mike Rogers who almost won last time against a very moderate, Alyssa Slotkin. But Ahmed El Said, Abdul El Said is not a moderate and he is the front runner right now. We are going to talk to Jackie Heinrich shortly from the White House lawn. But let's get to the big three first. Number three, this ruling is cruel. It is reckless.
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Jackie Heinrich
The Trump Miller white nationalist administration has
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Shannon Bream
waged the war against our immigrant communities. That is as un American as it gets.
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Brian Kilmeade
Guess Supreme Court speaks up. Mark Wayne Mullen takes a stand as fireworks aplenty. I'm talking about verbal fireworks. D.C. is where it all took place. We'll discuss with Jackie.
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Jim Jordan
Number two, perhaps it's time for change.
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Jackie Heinrich
I think the Democratic Socialists of America is a force.
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Brian Kilmeade
We are a big tent party.
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General Jack Keane
That's who we are.
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Jackie Heinrich
And they're not afraid of the term democratic socialism. I'm not scared of the term.
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Brian Kilmeade
You're not. You should be standing up. Democratic Party moderates make it clear they are not anti Semitic socialist. But is it too late and they are they now outnumbered? We discuss.
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General Jack Keane
Number one, Iran is doing two things. One is they're exercising administrative control and certainly that is prohibited. And two, you have to get Iranian insurance to execute that. That is absolutely prohibited by the mou.
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Brian Kilmeade
And that is really a problem. Iran breaking its word and the deal in the strait, they sent a drone after a tanker. Nobody hurt but the tanker was stopped. Your move, Mr. President. You just heard the general, the four star general who I know you respect. Jackie Heinrich joins us now. Hey, Jackie, that was a big deal when that drone hit that tanker yesterday. What do you think is going to happen today? I don't think it's any more anyone's opinion. It's clear Iran's not living up to what they said they would.
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Jackie Heinrich
They're not. And it's really up to the President on how he wants to respond. And we keep hearing sort of bits and pieces of the strategy. One interesting little subplot this week was the blow up between Senator Cassidy and the President. Cassidy feeling like Congress hasn't been briefed enough on sort of the guts of this deal, what Iran has agreed to or not agreed to, and, you know, standing in the way of these legislative initiatives until he gets more answers. And he was brought to the White House for a briefing and apparently, according to reports, you had Rubio, the Vice President and the President in the room, who gave him sort of the walkthrough of what the discussions entail. And their bottom line is it's so sensitive that they feel like delivering briefings to Congress and having this sort of reported in depth would jeopardize the negotiations. It obviously assuaged me enough to issue a statement afterwards that he felt pretty good about it. But, you know, you have that in the background. And then in the foreground, you all these public statements and actions by the Iranians showing that they are not taking these negotiations seriously, testing and retesting the cease fire, if you can still call it that. And, you know, it makes you wonder what is the red line for the President? Obviously, the flip side of this equation is that we've seen oil prices dropping, you know, the markets are doing well. And every time he talks about a deal that's coming together, you know, that sort of is a boost for the domestic economy. That's going to be a big deal for the President and all Republicans in November. But at what cost? You know, at what point does this fall apart? And really, I guess in less than 60 days from now, we're going to see if it was worth it, if they can actually get to an agreement on some of the bigger issues.
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Brian Kilmeade
I just don't know if we have to. We should do a reprisal about what they did to that Indonesian tanker. Here's what General Jack Keane said about how Iran views the Strait Cut 9.
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General Jack Keane
You cannot overstate how strongly the Iranians feel about control of the Straits. It's equal. It's equal to nuclear weapons. And I'm not overstating it. Why Is that because it provides them deterrence? And we've seen the evidence of that deterrence here during the, during the war. And it gives them leverage and control in the region. And that's what they want. And they believe that is a plus that has happened. Most everything that's happened to them is a negative as a result of the war. But they see this as a plus as a result of the war, and they want to hold on to it.
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Brian Kilmeade
That's how they view it. This because they can't believe the results of taking the strait the first time.
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Jackie Heinrich
Yeah. And according to the Wall Street Journal, they're hoping to make $40 billion a year charging in the strait for safety and security. Environmental services, they call it, basically, you know, navigation around the mines that they granted, which has been a red line for this administration. Heard the president, you've heard Marco Rubio saying, you know, there's no way we would agree to a deal that allows Iran to have any sort of control over the strait. But, you know, if you look at sort of the reality of what it is right now, effectively, you know, they have enough power to intimidate that. You have these commercial, you know, shipping companies who, their insurers won't even let them transit if there's a threat of a fast boat or a drone. And it seems like they want to keep that threat up and use that to get whatever it is they can out of this negotiation. And you have Oman that they keep talking to about. Makes you really wonder who's advising the President on the inside, because there does seem to be this ideological split on how you deal with the Iranians. And we know the vice president's feelings about it. He has been upfront about it. We also know sort of hardliners who know what they're dealing with IR and have encouraged the President to, you know, strike and just decimate and, you know, force the enemy into a position of defeat so that they can actually agree in earnest to some of these things. And we haven't really seen the president go fully one way or the other. He's sort of been in this middle ground hoping that, you know, one path becomes clearer. And we've been there for a while. So, you know, these tests as they happen, including with the drone on the Singapore flagged cargo ship, I mean, that's just one of many tests. And you wonder how many can happen before it breaks.
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Brian Kilmeade
So there's another civil war going on. No shooting, thankfully, in the Democratic Party. And it's not my opinion, it's a flat, it's flat out fact. And I think the problem with the Democrats is they let Bernie Sanders not become a Democrat but yet run as a presidential candidate for the last two or three cycles. And because of that he was able to mentor other socialists and now he is maybe the kingmaker on the left while not being a Democrat. You got Graham Platner is a protege of his, you have Mondami a protege of his. And then Mondame goes out and puts three more people in congressional seats in New York City because the Republican opposition will be invisible. So they basically got a coronation for November. And now you see the mayor of Seattle, the mayor of, the mayor of Washington D.C. these are socialists. So now people like Gregory Meeks, more traditional liberal Democrats are speaking up. Cut 14. When you listen to at least some
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Jim Jordan
of the statements that have been made
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Brian Kilmeade
that they don't want to be a part of the Democratic Party, they want to divide the Democratic Party. And Here is cut 13. James Carville. It's time for Democrats to talk the S word schism. I really do. Everybody's always said, no, no, we're coalition, we're big tent. And there's some, there's just some that I can't be in the same tent with. I don't want to be in a political party that denies the right of the state of Israel to exist. That's just not, I just can't do that. I'm sorry. It's just not doable. So these Democratic lawmakers have signed a promise to be with capitalism, not communism. Don Davis, Kristen McDonald Rivet, Josh Gottheimer, Maggie Goodlander, Susie Lee, Vincent Gonzalez, Vincente Gonzalez and Tom Suozzi. They're all saying, don't include me with this group. Where's this heading, Jackie? And who's got the power right now? Who's got the juice? The socialists or the traditional Democrats?
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Jackie Heinrich
Obviously not the traditional Democrats. Cuz you've seen a number of them who are well funded incumbents, you know, lose their primaries to these upst progressive socialist candidates that become the darling of the left on TikTok, you know, and Bernie Sanders certainly has a lot to do with how he got here. But there are a lot of names in the party who have, you know, a huge weight right now. Zoran Mamdani is becoming one of the biggest kingmakers of the Democratic Party which is going to be a problem for Hakeem Jeffries, by the way, if Democrats do win the House in November and then he tries to take the gavel because he's still trying to you know, link arms with the Swazis of his party and you know, recall that, you know, for a long time Democrats shared a lot of these positions like supporting the state of Israel that are now completely toxic within the party. And so it's the Mamdanis, it's, you know, aoc, it's these people who have their career trajectory take off online, which is, you know, I've got issues with that because it's, by the way, people forget it's a space that can be totally manipulated by, you know, the country's adversaries. And it's like the Wild west of information warfare there. But you saw it sort of bubble up during the post October 7th fallout. You saw the protests on these college campuses and this free Palestine anti genocide crowd really taking hold on TikTok. And TikTok is at that point and still owned by the Chinese. And you don't hear about genocide against the Uyghur Muslims on TikTok, but you heard a lot about genocide in Gaza. And so there are real ways that this information gets manipulated and it boosts certain people's trajectories. And now we're seeing the results of that and we're seeing these, you know, more moderate centrist Democrats lose their seats. This is a schism, as Carville put it. I think that's, you know, probably not significant enough of a word. I mean, this is like the Tea Party moment for the Democrats and it's going to be really interesting to see how it shakes out because their strength as a party has always been that they stay in lockstep. Pelosi was able to keep them all together. They vote in a bloc that is, you know, how they, how they've been effective and that's not going to work anymore for them. So, you know, Republicans, that may be an advantage to them in this upcoming election if they can harness the discontent among the Democratic Party because more and more traditional Democrats are not finding their home there.
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Brian Kilmeade
All right, so I want to bring you to what's happening at 2 o' clock today. Speaker Johnson is going to meet with the President right by where you are at the White House. He wants to mount a last ditch effort to unstick on the House floor and ending the rebellion of the hardliners over the SAVE Act. He wants to be able to pass the Bipartisan Housing act, maybe on the Senate side. Nothing to do with the Speaker. Then we'll get Jay Clayton in as DNI and not the acting director Bill Pulte. Remarkably unpopular on both sides of the aisle. But the president doesn't want to do anything without the Save America Act. What's going to break this log jam? Is the president trying to send a message or is he just going to dig in?
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Jackie Heinrich
There's a few different ways this can go. You know, the bipartisan housing bill had been touted by his own administration as a major achievement. And it was something that Republicans were going to hold up and wave around and say, look, look what we're doing for this country in terms of, you know, affordability and cost of living concerns ahead of the election. And he took that out from under them by refusing to sign it until he gets the SAVE Act. As the SAVE act is written, it doesn't have the votes in the Senate. It can't clear the filibuster. And there also are not enough votes to nuke the filibuster, to pass it just along party line to have a compromise bill either to get Democrats on board and get those 60 votes or, you know, strip out some of the more divisive stuff. A lot of the components of the Save America act enjoy broad bipartisan support in public polling, especially voter id. But you have some, you know, divided opinions on the mail in balloting. Some Republicans are concerned that, you know, federalizing elections if infringes on states rights. You have concerns about, you know, in several states, mail in voting is legal and Democrats use it very successfully. And are they going to depress turnout if they, you know, push against it and hurt Republicans ultimately? So there's a lot there that, you know, there's room for compromise. But does he agree to that? We will see. Housing bill could, will still become law even though he doesn't sign it. Once it makes it to his desk in 10 days, it becomes law with or without his signature. But you really want the president to be out campaigning on the winds right alongside these Republicans that are vying to keep their seats.
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Brian Kilmeade
I just don't think we should be blowing up the filibuster just because the Democrats were going to do that, which was wrong. It doesn't mean you just beat them to it and they don't have the votes. I think there's maybe 20 Republicans who would not look to nuke the field filibuster. Is that roughly the count you have?
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Jackie Heinrich
I think it's. If they did a secret ballot, it would be greater than that.
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Kobe Jones
It is.
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Jackie Heinrich
There are 20 who have been at least 20 who have vocalized their opposition to it and more that privately hope it's not the vote they ever have to take because they don't want to disappoint the President. But they know that this is a, you know, a tool that protects the minority, say, in our legislation. And it also prevents the country from having to go through major swings when, you know, parties change power, the control change changes power between parties. And you have no risk of major reversals of, you know, what becomes part of American life. The filibuster is there to, you know, make sure that what does become law stays. And when the Senate becomes the House and, you know, a simple majority wins, the you fundamentally changed sort of how laws become law and the lives that we all live and grow to depend on. So I think if he, if there were a secret ballot on this, the numbers would be a lot different.
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Brian Kilmeade
But for Democrats, if there was a secret ballot, there's no Joe Manchin there. It would only be Fetterman, right?
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Jackie Heinrich
Yeah. It's a different story with the Democrats. And that is the President's point. He believes that the Democrats will nuke the filibuster first chance they get. And there was a lot of support for it on the voting rights issue. I think it was 20, 20, 22. But for Manchin and Cinema, there was enough support to, you know, pass it along party lines and, you know, make an exception, a carve out to the filibuster, which is how they always try to, like, make it sound nicer than what it is, which is, you know, blowing up a standard which then sets a precedent. But we will see, you know, where this new Democratic Party takes things. I think that could represent a significant change because while there are some members who in the Senate think that there are certain good reasons to, you know, advance their object, I think that they're starting to notice that there is a very far left coalition that's sort of running the narrative on the party. And we'll see how that pressure mounts and how people respond to it. There are, you know, certainly some members left who are traditional. Do they keep their seats? You know, who becomes. Who is rising in the leadership ranks. Is it Chuck Schumer? I mean, these are open questions. You know, anything's possible.
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Brian Kilmeade
Jackie, we have so much to discuss, but unfortunately we have to leave it there. Jackie Heinrich, thanks so much. Appreciate it.
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Jackie Heinrich
Thanks.
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General Jack Keane
Brian.
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Brian Kilmeade
Congratulations again. Fantastic wedding. And now soon you'll be able to enjoy your honeymoon. I guess it's just too busy now. Of course, Brian Fitzpatrick. You guys both get it. Jackie, thank you. We come back a short time out. Then we'll go with Congressman John James,
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Brian Kilmeade
There are certain things that I believe in that are not being reflected in the current environment, especially with some of these races on Tuesday. And as we said in our pledge, you know, we're for capitalism, not socialism. It's Tom Suozzi, congressman. He by the way, if he said I'm a socialist, he would lose a seat to a Republican. But he's being attacked or challenged in a primary. You know, he's being challenged on the left and now he's got a win in a moderate district on Long Island. And he is not, I don't think he is a socialist. He's not hiding his two points of view. But he came out late. He's part of, he's a co chair of the problem solvers caucus along with Brian Fitzpatrick. And I love that. He's got about 10 to 12 Democrats who love the country. They said it, they love the country and they're capitalists. I think it's, you know, that's harder for Republicans to win there. Probably partisan. If you're a partisan, you want Republicans to run against socialists. But I worry about a party where it's so anti American, anti Semitic, anti Israel and anti capitalists even existing in this country. But the Democrats let it take over their party. I got 17 people who say they're moderates. There's 435 in the House. When your home system or appliance breaks down, American home shield will help fix or replace the covered item, no matter its age.
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Brian Kilmeade (Show Announcer)
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Brian Kilmeade
The socialists who are, in my opinion, not Democrats, obviously had a big night and going after many things that many of us believe in. Socialists are socialists. They should form their own party. They try to crash our party, the Democratic Party. Welcome back, everybody. Congressman John James joins us now. And that was Josh gottheimer talking about being a moderate. And then now they announced yesterday there are capital Democratic capitalists who want their voices being heard because they're not getting any help from leadership. Akeem Jeffries, Chuck Schumer, I guess doing Nancy Pelosi, they're just, oh well, we're a big tent. Well, men and women who are trying to win a purple district. You can't win if you are. I would think you can't win if you say I'm a socialist who doesn't like the country and really hates Israel. I wouldn't think so. About 17 stood up and said count me as a capitalist who loved the country. I appreciate that. It scares me less. It probably makes it a little harder for Republicans to win, but not much because the power is still with the socialists. The DSA Congressman John James joins us now. Energy and Commerce Committee. Congressman, I know you're running for governor. First off, your thoughts about Democrats feeling the need after Tuesday of declaring that they're capitalists who like America.
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Congressman John James
Well, I think it's just an indication of what's happened to their party. They have become an extremist party. And all the efforts that they're taking to get away from that is frankly, it's their fault. They created this beast. They created this monster by feeding it, by feeding the people lies and with policies that have left the people more impoverished and with less hope. You know I love you, Brian, but what hoes on New York needs to stay in New York, in Michigan, we're standing up for principles that help us breathe free, standing up for our republic, making sure we're protecting our rights. And that's why I'm running for governor. The Democrats are extreme. They're running on extreme policies and during election years they try to con us into believing that they're moderates. They're not. Just look at what Abigail Spanberger did. They try to run on a moderate agenda, trying to lull us to sleep. And then as soon as they take power, they go to an extremist green New Deal woke DEI initiative and agenda. We will not fall for it. We will continue to stand for our republic. We will not let the commies win.
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Brian Kilmeade
But how do you explain Abdul El Said who's leading the Democratic field right now and just got the backing of Senator Van Hollen. But they would say a left wing liberal hates Trump, obviously, but not I didn't think a socialist, you know, I didn't think it's now he just got the endorsement of Van Hollen. So we had Spamberger running against Mike Rogers, and Mike Rogers barely lost, but she says, I'm center left. Now, this guy's not center left. He doesn't tell anybody he's center left left. But yet head to head, it's still a one or two point race. What does that tell you about Michigan? What does it tell you about the state of the country?
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Congressman John James
Well, it tells you everything you need to know. I am a combat veteran and I understood that when your enemy or your opponent tells you something, you better believe them. When Iran says death to America, you better believe it. And when Democrat socialists say that they're going to be taking away your guns and they're going to be taking away your rights, you better believe them. And so even if you didn't have that believe their behavior, you see that people who had called themselves mainstream for the longest period of time are now getting up and lining up behind these Democrat socialists. They are identifying who they are and what they believe. And it's completely antithetical to who and what we are as a country. On our 250th anniversary, August 4th is your primary. August 4th is the primary, but voting starts this week.
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Brian Kilmeade
All right, Congressman, you make an impact. You obviously have an ear to the White House. President really respects you. This is kind of a risk to go in Michigan in a. In a somewhat of a purple state and give up that seat to run for governor. Why did you want to do it?
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Congressman John James
Well, I'll tell you what. I've always answered the call. First of all, this is not my seat. The seat belongs to the people of the state of Michigan from the 10th congressional district. How arrogant would I be to think that I'd be the only person who could win? We have a great guy, Mike Bouchard, who was just endorsed by the president in the 10th Congressional District. He's going to do a great job. But from the military, I answered the call for our nation after 9, when Michigan was hit hard by the Great Recession, I answered the call and created jobs in the state of Michigan. And again, when our republic was under threat, with open borders and DEI policies, with the Biden administration, I answered the call and deployed to the swamp. And now, while Michigan is on fire with our education, 45th in the nation, with our economy cratering, and with Johnson Benson, who was on the board of the SPLC when they were giving millions of dollars to Nazis and kkk, I'm answering the call to restore hope in Michigan, to restore trust in Michigan, to restore accountability in Michigan and I'm excited to help make Michigan great again.
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Kobe Jones
Wow.
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Brian Kilmeade
Okay. So hopefully you'll be successful. August 4th. Huge asset. West Point grad, so combat veteran, as you mentioned. So I want to bring you to Iran if I could. So, as you know, they shot at a tanker yesterday. No one got hurt, but the tanker was disabled. General Jack Keane weighed in with me an hour ago on Fox and Friends Cup 5.
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General Jack Keane
Iran is doing two things. One is they're exercising administrative control and certainly that is prohibited. And what I mean by that, they're telling ships where they can go and when they can go in terms of what lanes. And two, you have to get Iranian insurance to execute that. That is absolutely prohibited by the mou. And then obviously violating the ceasefire is what it is.
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Brian Kilmeade
So this is what's happened. Which, how should we respond to this?
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Congressman John James
Well, Iran is about to fafo. The President was correct to use peace through strength. He was correct to use diplomacy first. He was correct to make sure that he put the stipulations and parameters for Iran to behave prior to getting anything from the United States or its allies. But if Iran continues to try to flex some kind of muscle, then they're going to figure out who they're dealing with. The President is not to be trifled with. And the President will always look out out for America's interests. Look, Secretary Rubio was in the area and he was talking specifically about uniting the region. And it's a continuation of what the President has already done previously with the Abraham Accords taking out Soleimani. And this is another step in the right direction. Again, we want peace in the Middle east, but we also need to make sure in order to do that, Iran cannot have ballistic missiles, they can't have nukes, and they cannot continue to threaten the region and the United States with their proximity.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, but Congressman President also is worried about the economy. Helps your job. If the economy's not going well, gas price is too high, it's gonna be hard for Congressman John James to be governor. John James, and he's basically, I think, saying, get me to November. So how do we handle it in June?
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Congressman John James
Well, the way is we tell the truth to the people. Look, in a state like Michigan where our economy is cratering, we're talking about competing for jobs with Mexico and China. We can barely compete for jobs with Indiana and Ohio. When people try to point at President Trump as an excus excuse for what's going on in Democrat failures, we can point at places that have lower taxes, lower regulations, more friendly to businesses and families. And workers for areas that are growing in the country. When oil prices spike, it's because of frankly the terrible green New Deal policies we're seeing in the state of Michigan. We need to roll that back and make sure that Michigan can continue to compete. Because Michigan, when it's able to compete, helps the nation compete more effectively. The president is negotiating. He's the best negotiator in the world. And I trust the President to make that we have a strong economy and keep America safe. This is not either or. This is and both. And the president is putting mission first and people always.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, I guess so. You would, you would encourage him to hit back hard and not worry about gas prices?
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Congressman John James
I would tell the President because he has information that we don't.
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General Jack Keane
Brian.
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Congressman John James
I would tell the President to continue to negotiate to the best of his ability and because he loves our soldiers, sailors, airmen. I have three little boys and I went and fought in the Middle East. I don't want them to go fight a war that I fought in because Iran's been at war with America for 47 years. And this is the first president stood up and said no more. Our president is concerned about our economy. He's concerned about your paycheck. He loves you. That's why he's doing this. He doesn't need this job. But our president's doing this to both protect our economy and to protect our futures. And having a nation that has nuclear capable that can hit America, that can say death to America is unacceptable to our president and it's unacceptable to me.
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Brian Kilmeade
You know, I'm pumped up for year 250. I love our history. I love looking back at our history. But among the African American leaders, Al Sharpton, I'll paraphrase what he said. It's now our anniversary. We were. My ancestors were enslaved back then. I'm not gonna celebrate freedom until we didn't get until the 1960s. How did John James, as an African American feel about America?
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Congressman John James
250 I love my country. My country is the greatest country that's ever been because we are endowed by our creator certain inalienable rights that among them are life, liberty and pursuit happiness. These are things that we have here that no other country has. And it's as much abundance and you see it with people who are coming from all over the world for the World Cup. The ingratitude for this nation I think betrays the sacrifices of the men and women who've come before us. I was raised by parents from the Jim Crow south who taught me that victory not victimhood was my destiny. And those who continue to race bait and grift off of grievance are doing us all a disservice. This is a great country where anything is possible. And I'm excited to be a governor where in Michigan. That anybody, regardless of your race, color, creed, sexual orientation, or how you were born, doesn't determine what you can achieve in this life. So God has been good to me. I will continue to submit to him and serve his people and make sure that people like Al Sharpton do not
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Brian Kilmeade
have the last word. You know, it's interesting because it's very similar to Booker T. Washington, what he was writing about and living in the turn of the 20th century. And he was in the segregated south, where clearly that was a huge problem. Nobody says that segregation was no big deal. It was terrible. Right? So you acknowledge. Your family acknowledged that, but you said we're gonna make this country better while acknowledging how wrong segregation was 100%.
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Congressman John James
My father lived directly across the street from Mississippi State University. Couldn't go there because he was black, but he still served his country honorably in Vietnam. Came to Michigan, started a trucking company with one truck, one trailer, no excuses. Grew it from nothing to 30 million, handed it over to me and my brother. We grew it to a nine figure company and still growing. But most importantly, providing jobs for people in the state of Michigan. For folks who are desperate for hope coming out of the Great Recession. I am the walking result of the American dream. But the issue is we need to make sure that we use our blessings to be a blessing to others, to make sure that other people can see that dream, they can experience that dream. But Democrat policies, these Marxist policies, are stripping that dream away from people, telling them that this is a hopeless situation. It is not. We live in the the greatest country there's ever been and success is still there. But we need to educate our children. We need to stop indoctrinating them. We need to give them hope. We need to stop telling them this is racist country. It is not. We need to make sure that we are leading by example and not listen to the siren song of socialism and communism and Marxism that lies to them in saying that this is a bad country. Again, we recognize our history. But when you talk about crt, you better be talking about the critical redemption theory. Because after Republicans marched down to the south to free the slaves and to keep our country together, then we experienced the greatest growth that history has ever seen when we came together as a nation and continue to grow. And we will do that again from 2026 onward and Michigan's gonna lead the way.
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Brian Kilmeade
So you feel, you know how far we've come and you don't think it's, it's doing justice to the people that work so hard to make it a free and equal country to condemn where
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Eric Shawn
we're at right now.
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Brian Kilmeade
Now instead, you look at the progress being made and you think that's a salute to our past. Am I putting words in your mouth or is that, is that how you feel?
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Congressman John James
No, Brian, I think that's appropriate. We can, we can absolutely understand the pain that some people feel without neglecting the fact that we have come a long way. We do have a long way to go. But even our founders said, brian, this is a pursuit of a more perfect union. Anything that we do falls short of the glory of God. And we are going to continue to pursue a more perfect union. We're going to do, continue to make ourselves better each and every single day. And so rather than cursing the darkness, let's be a light. Let's talk to people about how great America is without having rose colored sunglasses and have a Pollyanna attitude. We can be optimistic. We can have hope. And the Republican Party offers solutions. Local control, dignity, popular sovereignty. Understanding that these rights must be protected to pass on to another generation. Because when you allow the people to lead the way and get the government out of our, out of our way, then great things can happen.
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Brian Kilmeade
I hear you, Congressman John James. Who wants to be the next cover of Michigan? We're going to find out August 4th. You get that nomination, then go through November. Thanks so much, Congressman. Great to see you.
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Congressman John James
Thanks for having me on, Brian.
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Brian Kilmeade
You got it. Back in a moment.
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Congressman John James
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Soccer Commentator
To the back post knock down.
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Brian Kilmeade (Show Announcer)
It's in.
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Soccer Commentator
It's another. It's Austin Trusty's first career goal for the United States
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Brian Kilmeade
with a nice little
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Soccer Commentator
dummy that allowed Yilmoz to run onto it trying to return on a gula able to capitalize on that loose ball in the middle. Beats Matt Turner. Turkey tie the game inside of 10 minutes.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, it would tie one one and then Turkey would go up two one at half. And that's when I kind of went to bed, started watching the second half before I came to work at 2:30 in the morning. But yesterday in game three of their three game automatic play in group say the US team in front of 70,000 plus did not have to win that game. They had nine new starters. Western McKinney, one in there and Pepe was starting again, who was filling in for Pulisic, who was hurt. So he really had one starter, Western McKinney playing out of position and the backup goalkeeper as well. And they lost 32 in an extra session. So here we are past the 90 minute mark. They add time for injuries and goal celebrations. So they added an extra seven minutes. Listen to how this game ended. Cut 43.
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Soccer Commentator
It's not over yet. Turkey is going to have a throw in here.
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Brian Kilmeade
It's into Artagouler.
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Soccer Commentator
Their big star. Pulisic, the USA's big star, gets nutmegs. Guler still trying to get in. Chance for a cross. Comes back to the top of the box. Now it's clipped in at the backside. Matt Turner. It's stabbed home Turkey. They score the winning goal in the 98th minute. They might be going home tomorrow, but they're going wild now.
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Brian Kilmeade
And they did. Turkey does go home. They were supposed to be the toughest team with our second unit. They were able to beat us in stoppage time. But what does it matter? Not really. You want to win. It's crushing to lose at the last second. Who proved themselves. What I saw in watching 50 minutes, I think that Cali was unbelievable. I thought he was really good. And I also thought that you're going to have a hard time not, not playing a lot of these players that really stood out. So in terms of what it meant, one of the lead analysts when it signed Alexi Lalas is Lotan Ibrahimovic. And here's what he said about what the loss means. Cup44 it doesn't matter because now starts the real deal against Bosnia of Herzegovina. Now if you win, you go through. If you lose, you're out in the group stage. You can afford to lose one game. But this game was more about putting those legs that didn't play so far and get them some minutes. The result will not change nothing. They were gonna. They're gonna keep going. It's gonna be a different game against Bosnia versus Romina and that's the real deal. This doesn't change nothing.
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Eric Shawn
Hopefully nobody got injured and that's the most important.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, that is the most important. I get it. And Pulisic coming back and looking good. That is great. Trustee scoring that was fantastic. But they're going to get their starting back line in and I think that'll be great. Sebastian Berhalter was fantastic. I mean he, his dad as you know coached the last World cup team. His dad was a really good player. He comes in and plays offensive midfield and scored and assisted on the other hit all the set pieces. Extremely strong. Got a yellow card but it's not going to matter in the knockout round. Next game is against Bosnia. Bosnia. A beatable team. A team that does not have a rich World cup history. It's young. You gotta feel the US Comes in favored, no question number two afterwards there's an excellent chance they'll play Egypt. So you're in the field to 32. Go. Good job. The next if you win again you're in the field of 16. If you play Egypt it's conceivable all you have to do is play to your potential and you get to the round of eight. Nobody expected this.
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Brian Kilmeade (Show Announcer)
From the FOX News radio studios in midtown Manhattan. It's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmeade,
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Brian Kilmeade
so glad you're there from 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan. Heard a heard around the world. This is the Brian Kilmeade Show. This hour be joined by Eric Shawn. He's got a big look at history for a Fox Nation special but also be taking your calls. 1-866-408-7669. A lot going on. We get those Tuesday impactful socialist primaries. We also have the Iran situation which is quite volatile. President United States shutting everything down till he gets the Save America act through. Is that the right thing to do? We'll talk about that as well as some heretics on the right in the Senate who are angry at him. Tillis, Cassidy, Cornyn, Murkowski, they are the president's kind of went at them. They've had disagreements and are they going to go out of their way to do things to hurt the president's agenda? We'll discuss that. We know Democrats, almost all of them outside Fetterman are doing that on a daily basis. So let's get to the biggest three. Number three, this ruling is cruel. It is reckless.
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Shannon Bream
The Trump Miller white nationalist administration has waged the war against our immigrant communities. That is as un American as it gets.
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Brian Kilmeade
The Supreme Court speaks Up and Mark Wayne Mullen takes a stand as fireworks aplenty on Capitol Hill yesterday. I'm talking about the verbal kind. We'll talk about it. Number two, perhaps it's time for change. I think think the Democratic Socialists of
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Jackie Heinrich
America is a force.
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Brian Kilmeade
We are a big tent party. That's who we are.
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Jackie Heinrich
And they're not afraid of the term democratic socialism.
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Brian Kilmeade
I'm not scared of the term. You should be standing up Democratic Party moderates making clear they are not anti Semitic, they are not socialists. But is it too late? And are they outnumbered?
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General Jack Keane
Number one, Iran is doing two things. One is their exercise in a military administrative control, and certainly that is prohibited. And two, you have to get Iranian insurance to execute that. That is absolutely prohibited by the mou.
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Brian Kilmeade
And that's what we're saying. Iran shooting at tankers, unarmed. Thankfully nobody was hurt. But what does that do to the strait? The market's now down today. Not that much, but it was soaring yesterday. And the president wants, wants those oil prices low and they're there. He wants the gas prices low for you and they're coming down. But if he does the right thing and hitting back at Iran sends the right message, it could hurt you in the pocketbook. He's in a tough situation, but it is June, and if you hit him hard in June, you'll have a much better September, I believe. What do you think? No going wrong there. We'll discuss that. And also we're going to look at the World cup yesterday, the very last second in extra time. The US did in fact lose. When it comes to Iran, Marco Rubio made it clear he was there to talk to the Gulf allies. But also there are certain things that are happening that you listen to what Iran says. Just watch what they do. Now, this looked a lot stronger yesterday after we saw them blow up a tanker, but this is his message. Cut three. And then there's an opera. If they've changed their mindset or if they change their approach to their relations with the United States and their neighbors, then we're going to give this thing a chance to.
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Jim Jordan
To work.
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Brian Kilmeade
Maybe this changed. I'm not saying it has. I'm saying the president wants to explore whether that's the case. And if it has, we're going to find out. But we're not going to find out because of what they say, Right? We're looking at what they did and what they do. So evidently weapons inspectors are going in, weapons inspectors are looking for free reign. Are they going to get it? If they don't get it? That's part of what Iran's doing. They'll say, no, we're not going to do it. Okay, you can come in. Okay, you can come in, but you can't go to pick acts, can't go to Fordo. You got to tell me ahead of time, just set up a camera. We'll let the camera livestream that. That's when you realize 60 days is not enough. And then when you get closer and closer to the midterms, leverage goes to a degree to Iran. Cut.
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General Jack Keane
For they believe this gives them geopolitical advantage over their adversaries, the Gulf states in the region. And also some leverage coverage with the United States. And remember the MoU, while everything is in the future in the MoU over the 60 day negotiation period and then some, you know, in terms of all things nuclear, ballistic missiles, support for proxies, and the list goes on. But the deal, an agreement that was struck was over the Strait of Hormuz in the mou. And that certainly is. It is supposed to be open, all lanes clear. The lanes that are not clear. Clear. And no administrative control whatsoever.
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Brian Kilmeade
Right. But they are saying, and this is what I mentioned to the president said in the New York Times, they said that they're setting up an infrastructure and a pay rate and an insurance company in order for everybody to pass through the side of the strait. And the president feels like the New York Times isn't dependable. But I'm saying they're reporting and quoting people from Iran. And then we have the secretary of state say, don't worry about that. We'll get their actions all right. I'm looking at them now. I'm looking at their actions and listening to their words. So we have to stop it. I don't think we'll ever accept it. They're not going to turn around. I don't believe the president said, oh, it's no big deal. Let them govern the strait. Please don't expect us to accept that. Nobody would accept that. So, and here's, here's how they look in control of the strait right now. Cut nine.
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General Jack Keane
You cannot overstate how strongly the Iranians feel about control of the straits. It's equal. It's equal to nuclear weapons. And I'm not overstating. Why is that? Because it provides them deterrence and we've seen the evidence of that deterrence here during the war and it gives them leverage and control in the region. And that's what they want. And they believe that is a plus. That has happened most everything that's happened to them is a negative as a result of the war. But they see this as a plus as a result of the war and they want to hold onto it.
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Brian Kilmeade
So that's the problem. And we just gotta say, oh, you can't do that. And I just know you have to have a battle plan that not only takes the straight because it wouldn't be hard to do that, but then backs up the land inland on Iran. Now they could always fly a long range drone, but then we got to set up a system to knock that down and maybe temporarily you got to put guys in there, but that's got to be the plan they're working on. I just trust that the military planners, the war college experts have looked at the strait really for the last hundred years, years. And knowing that with the technology and the challenges that we're seeing in Ukraine and seeing what Iran's capable of, we have a plan for that. What I think Democrats weren't planning for is when Bernie Sanders started running for office for President, I think 12 years ago, they said, well, he's not really a Democrat, but it doesn't matter, he's a socialist. He's not going to get much traction. Well, he did. He almost beat Hillary Clinton and then he almost beat Joe Biden. In fact, he was in the lead until they anointed Joe Biden. Until Bernie stepped down, he did. One of my reasons, I believe he did step aside is because I don't think he ever wanted to be president. Cuz when you're president you gotta make tough decisions, not sit there and be a gadfly or an idealist. Talking about this vilifying of rich people and balancing out society by taking money from successful people and giving it to the unsuccessful. That doesn't mean you don't have a social safety net. But now Bernie Sanders extreme views are mainstream in the Democratic Party. We saw the three wins and the multiple wins in the State House House in New York City. Then we see what happened with the mayor of Seattle. We see what happened with the mayor of D.C. we see what happened the mayor of New York City. We see that other D.C. dSA candidates are running and we're saying, wait a second, are any Democrats going to step up and say I'm not a socialist. Are they going to realize that a non Democrat has taken over their party while allowing them to use the infrastructure of the party and be on the Democratic ballot rather than form their own own. Form their own party? Some people are speaking out. Here's James Carville for a Second, he came out and made it clear after what he sees, the DSA just killing incumbents. Cut 13. It's time for Democrats to talk the S word schism. I really do. And everybody's always said, no, no, we're coalition, we're big tent. And there's some, there's just some that I can't be in the same tent with. I don't want to be in a political party that denies the right of the state of Israel to exist. That's just not. I just can't do that. I'm sorry. It's just not doable. And that's what all three of these candidates that Mandami endorsed set. Cut 12. All of these people hate Democrats. Why do you want to run as a Democrat? Start your own movement. If it's such a powerful, sweeping
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Jim Jordan
movement
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Brian Kilmeade
that's got momentum everywhere, then go ahead and be at the head of it. Don't use the Democratic Party to advance it. And guess what? I think some Democrats did step up and I think it's great news for the country, not for the Republican Party. It's going to be harder to get a moderate Democrat out if you're in a purple state. And now Democrats have to make a stand. Not that people care that much about New York outside my great listeners on wabc, but Governor Kathy Hochul is in an interesting spot. She's afraid of the mayor. So she gave the mayor free Pre K or SEG or free 2k for 2 year olds to get free daycare. And then she. He had a huge budget gap. She wrote a check. She wrote a check. Okay. Wrote a check to the city to fill their budget gap so they continue to spend like, like drunken Muslims in New York City. But did he get her an endorsement?
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Jim Jordan
No.
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Brian Kilmeade
And now she's running for office against Bruce Blakeman, who is not pretending to be a socialist. He is a capitalist. He's not anti antisemitic. He is pro Israel. And she is trying to decide if she's going to be a moderate like Tom Suozzi and Laura Gillen in New York, or she is going to be a Mandami disciple. And if you're not a man mommy disciple, you don't get his endorsement. So he's got to make a decision. Now, I got to give some Democratic lawmakers some credit. Yesterday they signed a pledge to promise to be capitalist. Yep. They said that we are a capitalist country. They like America and they're not anti American. So some of these names you probably haven't heard of, but I have Vincente Gonzalez, Janelle Bynum, Susie Lee, Maggie Goodlander, Josh Gottheimer, Chrissy McDonald Rivet and Don Davis and Tom Suozzi. Laurie Gillen, Adam Gray signed a pledge to promise to be capitalist. Do you believe this to be capitalist? There was a time when Bill Clinton was running for office center left. No one ever said, you're not a capitalist. It's how much you want to spend on social programs. But, and then if you said socialists, how dare you. Now they embracing this. So I give them credit for this, but are they outnumbered? Here's Tom. Susie, There are certain things that I believe in that are not being reflected in the current environment, especially with some of these races on Tuesday. And as we said in our pledge, you know, we're for capitalism, not socialism. So the effort to be in New York and win in purple district. Tom Suozzi, Adam Gray. Okay, California Congressman Adam Gray. They're also in that area where they have Republicans. So they know if they even wanted to be socialist, they would just be the end of their career or certainly they're in their seat. Congressman Lauren Gillen, too, won a seat that was Republican before. So here you go, ladies and gentlemen, the fight is on. And it's not your fight necessarily. This is a Democratic fight. Moderate House Dems are preparing for war. According to Axios, quote, clearly there has to be an organization. You can't just wait, wing it, wing wring your hands of all this stuff. Another centrist Democrat said there's going to be a war if we have a tight enough majority. You're going to see a group of moderates do exactly the same thing. We will not vote for X unless we get Y. What I would do if I'm President Trump is I identify those moderates and I put them to the test. I got a few pieces of legislation that I think you can get behind. I need you. And if you really want to prove you're moderate, do it. But if you're not moderate, moderate, then you, you'll nix it. You'll punt this and I'll point it out that you're really socialist trying to win in a moderate, moderate state. Here's Josh Gothemmer. Cut 15. The socialists who are, in my opinion, not Democrats, obviously had a big night and going after many of the things that many of us believe in. Socialists are socialists. They should form their own party. They try to crash our party, the Democratic Party. Yeah, they did and they worked. And they're outnumbered. When we come back, I'll take your calls. Or if you want to write me. Briankilme.com I'm going to get to some of your emails that came in last night because some of you watch on YouTube because we've got a YouTube channel now. YouTube.com hebriankilmead show some of you in a market that they'll, they'll air the show live and they'll delay it. So I get your emails, I'll read some of them, but I'm also going to take your calls. Back in a moment.
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Brian Kilmeade (Show Announcer)
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Brian Kilmeade
I obviously, you know, have a room in his head, rent free, a suite in, in, in his, in his head. But the thing about it is that
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General Jack Keane
was always clear to me.
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Brian Kilmeade
Look, first of all, when I was president, the last thing I had time
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General Jack Keane
to do was worry about what somebody said somebody said or what my predecessor did.
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Brian Kilmeade
They're gone. I've got work to do. So that is President Obama continue to talk about Donald Trump. Now remember, if you go back in history, when they write the Donald Trump story, it was Barack Obama's obsession with a businessman hosted the Apprentice who thought about running for president. President which got him running for president. Trump never said that's the reason. But if you watch him seething at the White House correspondence dinner when Obama just teed off on him, so happy he was before. I was at that. And I watched him just relentlessly. And then Seth Meyers got up and did the same thing or did it first. And then Obama really wrote only about Trump, not about Bush, not about Kerry, not about Romney, not Kerry, not about Romney, not about John McCain. But it was relentless on Donald Trump. But now President Obama says he keeps talking to him. Now Trump does talk about him, no doubt about it because he's always comparing himself to his predecessors because he feels like he's got to undo a lot of what they did. And he feels like people look at Barack Obama, see how talented he is, how conversant he is, what a great speaker he is. They think he was a great president. And I don't think he was. And Trump knows he wasn't. So of all people, Charlemagne tha God called out Obama cut 50. I just don't feel like Donald Trump would have a problem saying anything to him anyway, even if, you know, he, by the way, he's, he's, by the way, Donald Trump just looking for a reason to lock up one of his political opponents anyway. Yeah, all the power is on Trump's side. So I just didn't understand what he meant unless he was talking about the
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Congressman John James
kiki they had at the Carter funeral.
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Brian Kilmeade
But to me that goes both ways. You kikiing in his face too because by the way, Trump been saying wild stuff about you, bro. Crazy about my wife and all. That's him saying wild stuff about you and your wife. But you was just right there kikiing with him at the President Carter's funeral. So I can say it goes both ways. Don't neither one of y' all be having that energy in each other's face? Yeah, but at least from what we saw. So that is Charlamagne, the God pointing out that we know the last time at Jimmy Carter's funeral, Melania did not show up, I don't think. And Michelle doesn't show up to anything anymore. And very few except for the opening of the library. But there's no question Charlie Maine's right. I mean Barack Obama engaged Donald Trump and they were talking nonstop and it got everybody upset. See, Trump is similar to this. It's very similar to fights. You know, you watch boxers on a pre fight, they're talking about each other. They might even have a fight in the weigh in as ufc. Especially when they do the weigh in, they look like they're going to kill each other and then they go in the ring and they kill each other or they octa and they kill each other. But at the end, as soon as it's done, they hug it out. It's not personal. I'm just going to beat you every way I can. And if I lose, you would hope there's good weight winners, not like the San Antonio Spurs. So that's Trump's feeling. Even though I'm attacking you personally, it's not personal. I'm here to get my agenda through. I'm here to win. I'm here to beat you. Hillary Clinton. If Hillary Clinton walked up to him tomorrow and they bumped a judge with the mall buying, you know, buying presents for Christmas, he would talk to her. He doesn't walk around seething about anybody. I think he's mad at really Cassidy right now, Mitch McConnell, he doesn't bring him up anymore. Paul Ryan, not a fan fan. But he would talk to them. That's just the way Trump is. You know, Obama went on to say call him two faced. I don't think he's, I don't think he's two faced. So we'll talk about that. Meanwhile, getting some of your emails. A lot of people are weighing in about different things. We're talking about about year 250. Sharon says this Please make a video of all the national cemetery showing all the people who died for our freedom. Then show those communies communists who have had a free ride to display their hatred of America. None of them been born yet. Go ahead and deport them. Listen, I feel the same way. You have a right to say what you want. But if you're gonna sit here and rip the country, I ask you, please leave. Skipper says this. I've worked my whole life since the age of 12. Everything from a dishwasher. Now I'm an executive. What I would like to do is tell other people to go get a job, start a career and stop whining about what America doesn't offer. How about this this email about Teddy and Booker T. This is from Theodore Wonder if there's a I came across Teddy and Booker T. While researching the American historical biography and racial equity narrative and what you've written is something really nice. It's popular history. People need to read more about it. I do think Teddy and Booker T Is a is a is a very inspirational book. It shows an imperfect America, but two people trying to make it better while working together in an underappreciated relationship. And how I know that I talked to the Roosevelt family and they said man, we would love for you to do this. And I did it. So that book's available and I'll be talking about that in Pensacola history Liberty left July 11th in Pensacola, Florida. Brian kilmeade.com.
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Brian Kilmeade (Show Announcer)
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Brian Kilmeade
All right, with me right now is Eric Sean of Fox News fame, senior correspondent and he's also hosting Crazy American American History as we get to set set to celebrate July 4th and the 250th birthday of America. Then the hard stuff started after we declared. Eric, welcome.
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Eric Shawn
Hey Brian, great to see you.
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Brian Kilmeade
Thanks. What made you do crazy American history?
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Eric Shawn
Well, we're celebrating the 250th birthday of course and I thought there were probably stories out there that they did not tell us in high school. So we started looking at some of these and we found some doozies. For example, example, who designed the flag? The American flag.
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Brian Kilmeade
So you what did you find out?
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Eric Shawn
Well, everyone says like Betsy Ross, no, I'm in the current flag. Now there is a story that's been out there for decades that the current 50 star American flag was designed by a 17 year old high school student from Lancaster Ohio. His name was Bob Hefton. 1958. He designs a 50 star flag for his history class. He gets a baby minus. He's really PO'd on that. The teacher says, I'll give you an A if you send it to Washington. He does that. He does send the flag to the White House. And he claims, and this is the story for decades, that his design was adopted by President Eisenhower as the new 50 star flag when Hawaii and Alaska came in the Union. And I got the flag right here. And I know this is radio, but I'm gonna pick it up. I have the original. The original flag. This is the 1958 Bob Heft flag that he sent to the White House.
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Brian Kilmeade
So clarify this for a second, because you have 13 colonies, but every time we added a colony, we would add a star.
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Eric Shawn
Yeah, every time.
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Brian Kilmeade
And then in the beginning, we would add a stripe, too.
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Eric Shawn
Yeah. The flag code says 13 alternating red and white stripes and a new star on a blue field for every time a new state is added. That is all it says. So we went to the Eisenhower Library and Museum in Abilene, Kansas, and they have all the records of the Eisenhower administration. And they said. When I asked, what's the rules? What were the guidelines? And they said there weren't any. They had to make it up because the only guidelines are what I Just said. In 1958 and 59, a huge wave of interest in the two new states, kids around the country, and people start sending in their designs to the White House. 1,900 flags and flag designs were sent in. And some of these are wild. And we have them. Our show is Crazy American History on Fox News Nation streaming now. And you'll see some of these, like the. The red and white, the. The. The. The. The white stars with the blue vertical on the left. I mean, things that you've never seen before.
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Brian Kilmeade
So I want you to hear. This is Bob Heft. Now, he passed away. So this year.
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Eric Shawn
Yeah, this is 2004. He passed away in 2009.
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Brian Kilmeade
Here's his story. Cut 49. I, of course, designed the flag of our country. Our current flag. Meet Bob Heft.
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Eric Shawn
He says before he knew it, he got a call from President Dwight D. Eisenhower himself. Himself.
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Brian Kilmeade
And I picked up the phone. He said, I wanted to let you know that I selected your flag as the official flag of our country.
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Eric Shawn
And the rest is history. The 50 star flag we celebrate today is all thanks to Bob.
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Brian Kilmeade
So would you say up until the 50s is when they stopped adding stripes, when a state was added?
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Eric Shawn
No, no, they had. They always had the same stripes. It's the stars that were added. So There was a 49 star flag when Alaska came in. That was only for like, I don't know, six, seven, eight months. Then when Hawaii came, it was officially displayed on July 4, 1960, as is tradition over Fort McHenry at 12:01 in the morning. And that is the basis of the current American flag. It's the six, alternating six stars with the five. And that was Bob Heft's design. The big issue, though, is critics say, no, he didn't design the flag, he just sent it in. There's no evidence that he actually. The White House actually acknowledged. Acknowledged that his was the flag.
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Brian Kilmeade
So you looked at everything, you could not find it. But Bob Hep said Eisenhower called him.
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Eric Shawn
Yeah, that's what he says. He says Eisenhower called him. He said a lot. He said a lot. Brian, through the years, he did get the. He said that he flew the flag, got it flown over 50 state capitals. first I'm like, no, well, guess what? I've seen the letters from 40 governors. He did get the flag, which we have right here, flown over 40 state capitals. But the story, I think, really is about one man and the flag and what it means to us as Americans, the freedoms that we value and hold so dear. And here is a. Was a patriotic man who had this story for decades, speaking to kids and veterans and school groups claiming that he designed the flag. That's why it's such a fascinating, crazy American story.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah. So you also have another. Another one of your stories is after 1783, we win the war, but we set up a very loose federal government where 13 colonies were really doing their own thing. They were not really laced together strongly because everyone feared a king. They said, we just lost. That last thing we won is a king or a president that was gonna be cracking the whip. That's never gonna leave. So we had the Articles of Confederation take it from there.
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Eric Shawn
Yeah, articles of confederation, 1781. And we look at who the first president, the real first president of the United States is. If you ask everyone, they'll say George Washington. Well, there's a whole group of historians who say, no, he was not. The first president of the United States was President John Hansen, because he was elected by the delegates on November 5, 1781, as President of the United States in Congress assembled.
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Brian Kilmeade
Here is a cut from that. That moment.
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Eric Shawn
Cut 50. Who was the first president of the United States?
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Brian Kilmeade
Frederick Maryland's John Hansen.
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Eric Shawn
Tell us a bit about who John
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Brian Kilmeade
Hanson was he was the first president of the first government. We're on the second one right now. Famously begun with Washington's inauguration in 1789. But for eight years before that we had our original government with its constitution, the Articles of Confederation and its presidents who served one year terms. Did he do anything?
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Eric Shawn
Yeah, he did. That was Peter Michael, who's a descendant of John Hanson. He's written the biography of John Hanson called President John Hanson. Yeah, he did. Mr. Michael points out that during the Hanson administration they established the first bank, There was a war cabinet, a cabinet, positions of foreign affairs, war finance. John Hanson and the Congress established Thanksgiving at that time. Hanson. And during his administration they sent Benjamin Franklin and John Adams over to Paris for the Treaty of Paris to negotiate the surrender of the British Empire. So he says that his ancestor is one of the great. He's a founding father, is one of the great Americans who actually put the country together. There was no government or country when he started. He said after the end of that first term we had a functioning government.
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Brian Kilmeade
So was he part. Was he a signer of the Declaration of Independence?
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Eric Shawn
You know, offhand I don't know, but he was a delegate for Maryland.
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Brian Kilmeade
That is episode number two. Now episode number three, you label the New York power couple.
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Eric Shawn
Yes. When Captain Kidd, right. You've heard of him? Infamous pirate. You think of Pirates are on the high seas killing people and swashbuckling and burying. Carrying their treasure all over the place. Captain Kidd was a wealthy New York guy. He was married, he had two young daughters. He had a mansion. He and his wife were top socialites. No one knows about this. He had this whole life in New York City. He'd be hobbling around the Hamptons now if he was here. And we focus on this unknown part of an infamous pirate.
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Brian Kilmeade
Did he have two identities or was he known then?
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Eric Shawn
No, he would. He'd be Mr. About Town, New York socialite, American. While was he was here, they didn't go out on the high seas. Wow. For like a year, two years.
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Brian Kilmeade
Almost like Superman. They have two identity. Here's a little from episode three. 51. They were new York's power couple.
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Eric Shawn
New York's power couple. Captain Kid.
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Shannon Bream
Yes.
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Jackie Heinrich
They had a very normal life. They had two children.
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Brian Kilmeade
He was a family man.
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Eric Shawn
You don't think of that as a. A pirate like that.
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Brian Kilmeade
No, you don't. And he was, he was very educated. He wrote beautiful, beautiful, beautiful letters. He had a fabulous signature. So who are you talking?
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Eric Shawn
Yeah, that's Daphne Jedicopoulos. She's written the book the pirate's wife. The amazing story about Sarah Kidd, who was Captain Kidd's wife. You know, the buried treasure. I mean, you're a historian. You've written about Long island and the Washington spy ring. You know all about history. Guess where Captain Kidd's, some of his treasure was buried?
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General Jack Keane
Where?
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Eric Shawn
Long Island.
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Brian Kilmeade
Where?
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Eric Shawn
Out on Gardner's Island. Gardner's island is between the two forks of the north and south of Long Island. It is a private island. It's in 1630 something. It was under the Gardner family and it still is. It is the most exclusive.
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Brian Kilmeade
You can't go there, Eric.
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Eric Shawn
Sean, you cannot. We tried. It's still in the family, the Gardner family. Now the. They are the goulettes. They own the island. You, you're trespassing if you go on it. But Captain Kidd, when he was a pirate, he came back after a three year voyage and he was going to face charges of piracy. So he buried some of his booty on Gardiner's island. Gold, silver, a 45 pound chest, a rare silk. And there's a marker on the island where Captain Kidd buried his treasure. And some think that there's still treasure around because we know that he started stashing it to protect his family in Connecticut, in Rhode island, rumors of it being in New Jersey. But so far the only booty of Captain Kidd that's been dug up was that church chest in Gardner's island that he buried in 1699.
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Brian Kilmeade
What was in it?
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Eric Shawn
Gold, silver, gold, silks. There's some spices that we don't know about. Sugar. Sugar was very rare at the time and that was dug up. And in fact, the East Hampton library, they have a piece of silk that he gave to Mary. No, no. Julia Gardner, the gardener's wife. So it's still, still there. People don't know that he buried treasure
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Brian Kilmeade
here in the U.S. how many episodes do you have?
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Eric Shawn
We have three episodes now. Fox Nation, Crazy American History and we're just starting.
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Brian Kilmeade
Eric, thanks so much. First off, I know you started off as a New York with New York as your beat. How does Mondame stack up to the past mayors from Bloomberg to Giuliani to de Blasio? Where would you put Mondame? What you've seen so far, he's way
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Eric Shawn
out there on the left side. Look, I think Ed Koch, who to me was a great mayor, would be rolling in his grave right now.
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Brian Kilmeade
You know you can't.
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Eric Shawn
And de Blasio fell into this issue. You cannot be a far left ideologue and be against capitalism and be the mayor of the greatest city in New York, Fiorello LaGuardia, said it best. He said there's no Republican or Democratic way to pave the streets, make the city safe, fill the potholes, make the trains run on time. Then you got a great mayor.
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Brian Kilmeade
Right. And this mayor in particular just to got it passed to freeze rents. Landlords are the bad guys. So now you're going to exceed these apartments, go to disrepair, there's going to be no money to fix them and maybe condemned.
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Eric Shawn
Yeah, we saw that in the South Bronx of the 1970s, that, that caused the, the neighborhoods to go downhill. And so we'll have to see what happens with them.
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Brian Kilmeade
Maybe the goal is for the city to buy those apartments and then decide who goes in them.
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Eric Shawn
Yeah, I, you know what? I, I'm speechless. You can tell. I don't know. You know, I hope he gets it. I don't think he does. And I've been studying the mayoralty of New York. I majored in IT at Georgetown. And I just, we've never seen someone like this ever. And I just hope he understands the city government. Good luck.
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Brian Kilmeade
Right, Eric. Shawn, thanks so much and congratulations on your series Crazy American History, available right now on Fox Nation. Follow Eric on Rickshawn tv. Back in a moment.
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Brian Kilmeade (Show Announcer)
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Brian Kilmeade (Show Announcer)
The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmeade.
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Brian Kilmeade
We need senators who are willing to rid our democracy of a corrupt system where big money, special interests, rigor, economy and our politics in favor of the billionaires at the expense of everyone else. That means we need folks who are not only ready to fight the Trump administration, but folks who will also challenge a Democratic party associated with establishment that too often sides with big corporate special interests at the expense of working people. That's why we need Abdul El Sayed to represent the great state of Michigan in the United States Senate. Are you kidding me? That is Senator Ben Howlen, a crazy TDS sufferer who never has done anything positive. Just being critical, of course, just loves to rail against Trump all the time. Now looks at the landscape. He has three viable candidates for the Democratic nomination to be a senator run against Mike Trump. Rogers and picks Abdul El Said, a anti semitic, anti Israel, anti American, best friends with Hasan Piker who really says we deserve 911 and that's why he scampers over to Michigan to endorse him. So don't tell me these are fringe candidates, not mainstream Democrats. He was known as a mainstream liberal Democrat and he's out there endorsing Abdul El Said, please. Now I'm not saying those 17 congressmen and women that said we're moderates and we're capitalists aren't sincere. I'm not saying that. But please stop telling me that it's just a small section in a blue bubble in New York City. That is not it. So I thought the co chair of the Democratic Socialist of America on CNN is worth bringing back some of these names you might have heard over the last few days. Daria, Eliza Evilia, Shep Chevalier. Chevalier, I think you say her name. She won and what she believes is out of control. And the fact that I wouldn't want her endorsing me, let alone being the candidate representing me. But listen to the co chair, a seeker, a Sheikh Siddiq on CNN yesterday. Listen to the question and the answer cut 25. Darieliza Avila Chevalier. CNN's K File uncovered some now deleted social media posts from her. One post from September 2021 said, quote, A world without borders, just like a world without prisons or police, is possible, necessary and the only moral way forward. That same month she also reposted, quote, yes, literally abolish the border and quote, all deportation is wrong. In August 2020, she reposted a tweet responding to a post that said Israel suddenly disappears. Your third emoji is your reaction. She replied, quote, trick question. Israel doesn't exist.
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Jim Jordan
Dariel is spoken for herself. Those are things that she tweeted when she was a normal person who was for office. And I think when we prepare people to run for office, to represent our movements and to represent millions of people.
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Brian Kilmeade
Do you realize how much wrong he just said? That's when she was a normal person. But now we coach people not to say things like that, but they do say things like that, especially the anti Israel stuff, anti APAC stuff. But she came out, these are the worst things, worst qualities you could have to want to get elective office in my view. Maybe your view? I hope so. And now when confronted with it, that's when she was a normal person. Not that I don't believe that. She doesn't believe that. She assured me she doesn't believe that. But that's when she was normal. Believe me. I hope that's not normal in your world. That's the only reason I bring Jake Tapper. Jake Tapper back cut 26. What about the concern that some people have that it's not about universal daycare, which is one of Mamdani's big positions. Policies, policies in New York, it's their fear of individuals saying, no borders, no prisons, no police.
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Jim Jordan
So for us, it is absolutely about universal childcare. It's about expanding public transit to be fast and free. It's about controlling the cost of housing. And we want to deliver on these things. There are so many visions for how an ideal society would work. And I think for people on the left who've been not used to having power, we think about the role you want to see in a very long term. There are all sorts of visions for that. But we're very concerned about how we deliver in our cities and in government. If we want federal power, we want to solve the problems that people have
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Brian Kilmeade
right now with your money. So take the money other people are earning and successful with. They're building businesses for. Take all of it. I think you're up to 70% now. Take all of it and have free buses, which will go to hell because no one's cleaning them. The indigent ride them for free just like they ride the subways. They. They don't leave. So if you don't have police because you don't have borders, you don't have prisons, what do you have? I mean, what is going on here? The questions should be vehemently denied. I had no idea about these postings. Or she walked them back and she was drunk, tweeted whatever it was, but not. That's when she was a normal person. Okay, that's what you have in New York. And. And Chris Van Halen proves my point. And if you look at Platner proves my point. This is not just a New York problem. It's. It's our problem.
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Brian Kilmeade (Show Announcer)
From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sewing division, it's Brian. Thank you for being there.
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Brian Kilmeade
It's the Brian Kill Me show coming here from 48 and 6 in Midtown Manhattan, home of the song socialist empire of the world spreading across the country. And I don't say that with any glee. I do have to tell people in New York that long overdue, the Mets have fired their manager just now, Carlos Mendoza.
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Jim Jordan
Why?
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Brian Kilmeade
They have the largest payroll in baseball and probably the worst team. They at one point had the best record over the summer in baseball. They were 58, 22. And then they end up tanking big time in epitome collapse. Since that time they're 72 and 102 and they had a 12 game losing streak. I think I went to the game when they, when they were going for their 11th in a row and they lost it. So what a disaster when you have teams like Tampa, Tampa, Tampa, Tampa Bay Rays who find a way to win with a tiny payroll every single year, you wonder what the Mets are doing. They have a great owner, but they don't seem to have a great architect. I don't. What do you think? So this hour we got a rocking hour coming to you. We're going to have Kobe Jones at the bottom of the hour. Next we're going to have Jim Jordan standing by. We're going to have Shannon Bream. So let's get to the big three. Number three, this ruling is cruel. It is reckless.
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Shannon Bream
The Trump Miller white nationalist administration has waged the war against our immigrant communities. That is as un American as.
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General Jack Keane
As it gets.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yes. Not happy with the Supreme Court decision. We'll talk to Shannon Bream about that.
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Jackie Heinrich
Number two, perhaps it's time for change. I think the Democratic Socialists of America is a force.
- [77:24]
Brian Kilmeade
We are a big tent party. That's who we are.
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Jackie Heinrich
And they're not afraid of the term democratic socialism. I'm not scared of the term.
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Brian Kilmeade
Good. You're not scared of the term. The rest of America is. We're going to talk about that. We're talking about that with the Democrats who are standing up in some moderate to say we are capitalists and we like America. Can you believe that to separate yourself from the rest of the party you had to make those statements.
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General Jack Keane
Number one, Iran is doing two things. One is they're exercising administrative control and certainly that is prohibited. And two, you have to get Iranian insurance to execute that. That is absolutely prohibited by the MoU.
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Brian Kilmeade
Iran breaking its word. End of the deal in the strait. A war. What are we going to move? What are we going to do? Mr. President, the status quo will not fly. And in case the president missed it, the barge was hit yesterday. Nobody was hurt but the barge was disabled.
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Eric Shawn
Why?
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Brian Kilmeade
Because they went to an area of the strait Iran didn't want them to. That's not supposed to be. And that's not supposed to be action that you should be taking. Shannon Bream joins us now. Shannon, do you think the president's going to be forced to make a move after that attack?
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Shannon Bream
It's a great question because, you know, Secretary Rubio has been there in the region trying to work with our allies and partners there, and they are apparently the ones who wanted the kinetic action to stop in a lot of ways. At least that's, you know, kind of reporting behind the scenes that they take a lot of incoming. We have bases in the area, but that's where they live. These are their countries, these are their borders. And they don't, I think, want the kinetic action to resume. But, you know, all Iran has to do is make people think the strait is unsafe, even though their Navy, their air force, all that stuff is gone. If you can still hit people with a drone, you can slow commercial traffic and the threat is what matters.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, so far it really isn't, you know, we're not rising like we did yesterday, but it hasn't affected the markets too much. Let's talk about the Supreme Court decisions that you're talking about and what could be coming down today. First off, when it comes to temporary protective status, Moen verse doe, the majority went to one to eliminating it of for the Haitians and the Syrians, specifically, who got temporary protective status. Circle that word. So all the conservative justices went with it. The dissent, Sotomayor, Kagan and Jackson. Tell me the significance of this case.
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Shannon Bream
Yeah, so temporary protected status is supposed to be temporary and it's gives you legal status here in the US if there's something massively wrong in your home country, war, oppression, natural disaster, that kind of thing. Now, for some of these countries, there's been designations that have lasted decades. I mean, that doesn't feel temporary to a lot of people, but maybe your country is really that messed up. But DHS secretary, when it was Kristi Nunn, had made a decision that, okay, for Haitians who are here under the status, Syrians who were here under the status, I'm now cutting it off. We're done with that. It's time for you to go home. And what the court said is, listen, the statute really doesn't give us any authority. It says there's no judicial review of this decision. So they say basically, if you don't like the statute, Congress gonna have to change that. But otherwise, what it says is the secretary's decision is what stands, whether you're going to institute the status or say it's time to let it expire. And, and so they said that's what you're going to get. These are the decisions.
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Brian Kilmeade
So, Shannon, a future president, let's say it's a left wing Democratic president, There's temporary protective status. Often, often to another country's residents.
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Shannon Bream
Exactly.
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Brian Kilmeade
Will they have to leave at a certain amount of time? Or they. Could that president just say, I'm going to leave them here, or is it out of his or her decision to leave him here? I'm just worried about somebody else coming in and deciding that this is okay.
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Shannon Bream
Yeah. And they could. But at the end of their term, it would be back to the DHS secretary under the next president to say, like, nope, that status is. And we know the problem is when you let people come to the country and they need some protection that may be legitimate, there are others who will abuse that. And once people get here and build families and become part of their community, even though it's supposed to be under this temporary status, then that's what the left is so upset about now. And all these press conferences and things that, you know, Democrats were saying yesterday, this heartless and cruel whatever. Because the argument will be, you've let them be here for years and build families and roots and now you're ripping them up. But yeah, I mean, based on the decision from yesterday, it's gonna just go administration to administration and whoever's the DHS secretary will have a lot of sway over these TPS decisions.
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Brian Kilmeade
So here is some of that outrage. Cut 32 because it means 330,000 Haitians and 4,000 Syrians are going to hit the road. This ruling is cruel. It is reckless.
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Jackie Heinrich
It's a betrayal of who we are
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Brian Kilmeade
supposed to be as a nation.
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Shannon Bream
The Trump Miller white nationalist administration has waged a war against our immigrant communities. We feel it every single day. They're trying to define who gets to be American, is who we are.
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Brian Kilmeade
To celebrate our neighbors, to do everything in our power to protect and defend the people we care about.
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Shannon Bream
That is as un American as it gets.
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Brian Kilmeade
So she's crying, isn't she? She's crying because people here temporarily jump the line because of a horrible country. They left ahead of people waiting in line and now have to leave that line. And now instead of saying thanks for the asylum, she's saying it's cruel to send them back. Now, bring me to some of the drama. Evidently, Sotomayor read her dissent, meaning highlighting one area. The consequences of today's decisions are predictable. More people will die. More people attempt to cross the border illegally, and some will make it while others will not. And they say Alito went back in his chair, looked up to the sky, and he who wrote the majority of the opinion and then said what, said what happened next. That he basically said, if I knew you were going to read the whole thing, I would have read mine.
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Shannon Bream
Yeah, and that's the thing is that was the other decision we got yesterday, which is, what does it mean to, quote, arrive in the state for purposes of pursuing asylum? And again, they went to the statutory language and said, it says you have to arrive in the U.S. he says, you don't arrive at someone's house when you get there. Outside, knock on the door. You arrive in their house when they let you in, and now you're in the house. He said the same thing for people who show up at the border. If you're on the Mexico side, you don't automatically get to pursue asylum because the statute says arrive in again, you got a problem with that, take it to Congress. So the person who writes the majority always reads a bit from their opinion from the bench. Now, the dissenters, when it's really heated, when it's a really difficult, you know, conversation and dispute and. And split on the court, they are free to read their dissent. It doesn't happen all the time. It does happen in these really heated cases. What I've never seen happen before is for the dissenter to read and then the majority opinion writer to come back and have something to say about it. Sort of a rebuttal. Um, but yeah, he sort of like, she went on for like, 15 minutes reading her dissent, which was much longer than the majority opinion, and he said something to the effect. Yeah, like, well, you know, I could have read my whole thing. It's unusual, though, for that to happen. And it might be one of the reasons they don't let us record those readings, because, you know, moments like that happen.
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Brian Kilmeade
Well, so, Shannon, the whole thing is, too, is that people are mischaracterizing what this is. They're saying our neighbors are our friends. That's one thing. It's not to do with the other. I mean, you have people that came here because of a certain status, and now the judge says, you got to live up to that. The Supreme Court says you have to live up to that status. So. And then to say that are throwing out our neighbors or minorities or white nationalists, that is totally mis. Portraying everything about this ruling. It's got to be frustrating for somebody who studies the law like you and studies the Supreme Court well, and I
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Shannon Bream
think it's going to be super frustrating for the court to feel like again, I'm sure Justice Alito felt like some of what we heard from Justice Sotomayor yesterday, it was her birthday, pretty sure they didn't go out and celebrate together afterwards, that she was using this kind of language that talked about, oh, people are gonna get killed now. This is life or death. You're doing a horrible thing. And the other decision, you know, there was on the tps there was language like, you know, this is racist and all this kind of stuff. So gotta be super frustrating for the justices. They've gone into overtime now. They were supposed to finish up yesterday. We have eight decisions left and a lot of big ones and we're not getting any today, which suggests to me there's some real tension behind the scenes. They're gonn try again Monday, but that's not going to be the last day. We just know that's the next day. So they're definitely going into overtime. And it's got to be in part because it's really difficult behind the scenes to wrap up some of these really heated battles.
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Brian Kilmeade
So we're not going to get anything today.
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Shannon Bream
Nothing today. They're going to make us wait till Monday.
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Brian Kilmeade
What about Sunday for you?
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Shannon Bream
Sunday we're going to be at the Great American State Fair and I'm going over there today, shoots and stuff for you behind the scenes. I might ride in the rodeo. I don't know. I mean, I've got a white pants. I don't know if that's the best outfit to wear. But if they let me, I will do it. But for the serious part of the show, we're going to have Senator Rick Scott, who was in that really heated meeting with the president and GOP senators this week, and we're going to have Congressman Jake Auchincloss, Democrats, ask him. Okay, who's running your party now? Who's calling the shots?
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Brian Kilmeade
Shannon Bream, you're calling the shots for FOX News Sunday. Thanks so much.
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Shannon Bream
See you Sunday night.
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Brian Kilmeade
You got it. Sunday night at 10 o'.
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Eric Shawn
Clock.
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Brian Kilmeade
Don't forget one nation. Congressman Jim Jordan next.
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Brian Kilmeade (Show Announcer)
Newsmakers and news breakers, hear it first on the Brian Killmeader Show. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Kilmeade again.
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Jackie Heinrich
It is my time. 3900 children were separated from their family.
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Brian Kilmeade
150,000 kids were lost.
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Jackie Heinrich
Secretary, say a word. Mr. Secretary, do not interrupt.
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Brian Kilmeade
Don't you point your finger at me.
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Jackie Heinrich
I will point my finger.
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Jim Jordan
Hypocrite.
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Brian Kilmeade
Then, then you be, you should be as upset about the 450,000 kids that were lost. He didn't say a word about it for four years. You never said a word. Mr. Secretary, could you put him in his place? For your place, Congressman Rosa. Congresswoman Rosa DeLauro. If you don't know it, just think purple hair. Let's bring in Congressman Chairman Jim Jordan. Congressman, you understand the frustration that Mark Wayne Mullen's going through. They totally ignore what's going on when all those kids came across the border and just disappeared with sponsors with no credentials and now we have to track them down.
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Jim Jordan
Yeah, no kidding. It turns out when you allow 10 million people to illegally enter your country, you lose track of some of the kids, which just adds insult to injury. And these poor kids that they didn't know where they were. So, yeah, God bless the Secretary for reminding the Democrats on that committee and the country. You know what happened? I always say, Brian, they had a systematic plan. Let in 10 million four years of Joe Biden, let in 10 million illegal migrants, then create sanctuary jurisdiction, which makes it difficult to remove those migrants when they commit another crime. Not just the crime of entering the country, but they commit some other crime. The sanctuary jurisdictions say, oh, local law enforcement don't work with federal law enforcement to enforce federal law. And then the third step is don't pay the guys who do the removing. They tried to defund ICE for 70, actually 110 days. They wouldn't. They wouldn't. They kept the government closed. So that's their systematic plan that they put into play. And of course, when they did all that, they lost track of kids. And the secretary is pointing that out.
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Brian Kilmeade
You are asking the Southern Pirate Law center to give you information about all their ugly activity in fomenting unrest with the KKK to white suprem supremacist organizations that you have found out. They infiltrate those organizations in order to put people in there and create profit problems. They would try to solve those problems and then get money to solve those problems. And they will not provide paperwork. Are you calling for. Are you. What are you calling for them to do now?
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Jim Jordan
Well, we want. We want the communications regarding this whole field source program. And again, as you pointed out, $4 million over several years. They paid these people to go foment the hate that they told their donors they were fight. And the sad thing is, it worked. They brought in a ton of money when they adopted this crazy scheme that they're now being indicted for. We want to know, we want those communications, those documents, those emails, the communications you had on how this field source program worked, how you communicated with those field sources. We want that information and we want also any information how they worked with the Biden administration and particularly the Biden Justice Department. We know that they had quarterly meetings with the Deputy Attorney General, Lisa Monaco. We know that they brought in people to train their prosecutors in the Garland Biden Justice Department. But we, we want to, we want to know all the information. We want all the documents related to those two subjects. And that's what we've subpoenaed. And if they don't give us that information, then we'll, we'll look at contempt and whatever other remedies we may think are appropriate.
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Brian Kilmeade
What about ActBlue and their foreign donations? Are you getting answers there?
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Jim Jordan
Well, we're, we're, we're going after information there. We just sent a letter asking for. So, so understand. Remember there were five people in their fraud prevention team when they were bring billions of dollars in the last election. So I got five people. After the election, all five either resigned, were forced to resign, or were fired. We deposed all five of them. Three of them were lawyers as part of the act Blue in house lawyers. All five of them took the fifth. Then we bring in the CEO, Ms. Wallace Jones, and she takes the fifth. And frankly, I think if anyone were in her shoes, they would have probably done the same thing because by the time we had her in there, we had as part of our investigation the statement from the chairman of ActBlue which said it looks like 38 million we took in came from foreign. And most importantly, we know of the memorandum sent from their outside counsel, Covington Burling law firm here in D.C. memo sent to Ms. Wallace Jones. And it said the response you gave in writing to Congress a couple years ago may not have been accurate. And it looks like someone can make the case. Your fraud prevention team, which had already taken the Fifth, your fraud prevention team may have willingly and knowingly, willfully and knowingly miss misled Congress, which is a crime too. So If I was Ms. Wallace Jones, I would have probably taken the fifth when she came in front of us two weeks ago. And of course, that's, that's exactly what she did.
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Brian Kilmeade
I worry about this.
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Jim Jordan
We want that information.
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Brian Kilmeade
You better get it. I hope you do. You're working hard enough to get it. I worry about these socialists being funded from outside our country because there's no way that's organic.
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Jim Jordan
Good point.
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Brian Kilmeade
I mean, I mean, how could not be, not be from outside our country? Whether China's trying to foment some unrest when it comes to the building of data centers to slow us down with AI to bringing socialism in when it's not endemic into our country. I'm wondering where that's coming from. And I wonder if Democrats might join you in that, in that pursuit.
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Jim Jordan
Well, I'm probably not because this is the fundraising machine. This is like billions of dollars that ActBlue processes for Democrat candidates. There were first time congressional candidates raising 2 and 3 million a quarter in the last cycle. So yeah, this is the machine. When you got the outside. Oh, by the way, that outside counsel, Brian, was Dana Remus who wrote that memo saying you misled Congress. Dana Remus was also the White House counsel for Joe Biden. So this is not some Republican writing a memorandum. Their lawyer was a Democrat saying you may have some problems here, you should correct the record. And she wouldn't do it. And now we're asking for some of the communications from that fraud prevention team. There was a letter sent by their chief counsel at ActBlue when he resigned. We would like to get that letter because we think he's going to say some things in there that they get to what you were just talking about these foreign contributions and their failure to check and make sure they weren't taking in foreign money, which is also a crime.
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Brian Kilmeade
Congressman Jim Jordan, thanks so much. I know it's going to be a busy, it's going to be a busy June. Appreciate you being with us. All right. When we come back and be joined by Kobe Jones, we got to break down what happened to the World Cup. Remember this guy won an NCAA champion, he's been an Olympian, he's been at three World Cups in his life. Maybe one of the finest forwards we've ever had turned into a fantastic commentator. And last night, in case you do not know, it was started at 10 o' clock Eastern time, ended about 1 in the morning. The US team lost in extra time in injury time in something like the last 20 seconds of the game. 3, 3, 2. But in the end, it doesn't matter. They're already through. They played nine bench players, non starters, excellent players, but just non starters. We'll see what changes Wednesday night in Bosnia. They're an upstart team, a fearless team, a very young team without a rich World cup history were favored to win that game. What does Kobe Jones say about that, Brian? Kill me. Show.
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Brian Kilmeade (Show Announcer)
Information you want. Truth you demand. This is is the Brian Kilme show
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Soccer Commentator
to the back post.
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Jim Jordan
Knocked down.
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Soccer Commentator
It's in.
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Brian Kilmeade
It's another early goal.
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Soccer Commentator
It's Austin Trusty's first career goal for the United States. Nice little dummy that allowed y to run onto it trying to return. Ar able to capitalize on that loose ball in the middle. Beats Matt Turner. Turkey tie the game inside of 10 minutes.
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Brian Kilmeade
And then of course they get the equalizer early on in the second half when Burr Halter would score. He's proven himself. He's valuable off the bench anyway, but after starting and playing the whole game, he showed how good he is. But what am I talking about when Kobe Jones has made himself available? 1994 World Cup, World Cup Member, Outstanding Player, NCAA Champion, Olympian, three World Cups overall and two time MLS Cup Champion Kobe Jones has turned into an outstanding broadcaster. Kobe Wel, welcome. Great to see you, Ryan.
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Kobe Jones
Great to see you too. It's been quite some time.
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Brian Kilmeade
I know you've gotten better looking with age and you look like you jump on the field tomorrow.
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Kobe Jones
Oh, well, well, that's not quite true, but I appreciate the compliment.
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General Jack Keane
Right.
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Brian Kilmeade
So what did you think of the game last night?
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Kobe Jones
I thought it was good, you know, I had, you know, watch it a little bit after than everybody else because like you, like, you know, I was broadcasting. But I thought it was a good, a good performance by the US and very good as far as allowing some of the players get some time on the field because that, that is so important, making sure that they're participants within this World cup.
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Brian Kilmeade
You got 26 people on the roster and you're really playing 13. And this time you had a chance to add nine starters, right?
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Kobe Jones
Yeah. And I think this is something that people have to realize and I know I've seen a lot of the headlines, a lot of the talks and people are just like so disappointed. But you got to play the long game in this type of situation. It isn't a off. This is a tournament type situation. And you know, as you get into these knockout rounds, there's the possibility of getting into 120 minutes and penalty kicks. So you have to have players that are ready know what it's going to be like, you know, stepping onto the pitch in a World Cup.
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Brian Kilmeade
So when you, when you talk about overtime, is it sudden death?
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Kobe Jones
No, no, you'll play it out. Yeah, you'll be playing the two 15s and if it's still tied in, then into the penalty.
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Brian Kilmeade
So Turkey had nothing to play for in the US had nothing to play for. So players trying to establish themselves and I want people to hear how it ended because I had to be up at 2:30 so I gave him it the first half and the second half, I find out in extra time, in injury time, this was what happened. Cut 43.
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Soccer Commentator
It's not over yet. Turkey is going to have a throw in here. It's into Aragula, their big star. Pulisic, the USA's big star, gets nutmegs. Guler still trying to get in. Chance for a cross. Comes back to the top. Now it's clipped in at the back side. Matt Turner, it stabbed home Turkey. A score, the winning goal in the 98th minute. They might be going home tomorrow, but they're going wild now and they went
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Brian Kilmeade
home with a victory. So when that ended, I think people were crushed. I think the coach Pontino I watched some of the interview, he said, hey, will you congratulate us on getting through and stop talking about the loss.
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Soccer Commentator
He.
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Brian Kilmeade
He sounded like Punch President Trump like that. Stop asking those questions.
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Kobe Jones
Well, I think it's. Look, I think two things can be right at one time. Yes, of course you're going to be disappointed that the US didn't get through and have that situation of being able to say, okay, we won every single game. But the reality is they did win the group. You know, that's. That was the goal of the team, was to win the group. And that's exactly what they did. And the goal to a degree of that game is what we've established already was to get some time for players that haven't had that time that may be called upon in this next round to come through in some big way in some sort of fashion.
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Brian Kilmeade
So, okay, so that game is over. Bosnia's next. It's Wednesday night. Bosnia, we know, eliminated Italy to so shocked Italy again knocked him out of the World Cup. And they're young, we understand they don't have a rich World cup history. Can you give us an idea of how they play and how do you think the US Will line up against them?
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Kobe Jones
Look, I think. Okay, let me start with the Bosnian team. I had, I was fortunate to call their game their last game and looking at how they play, they do, they are very physical team. You know, they have the legend and Jekyll up top and he's an absolutely a beast as far as a target. He's always moving and he's excellent, you know, as far in front of the net. So I think he's someone that you have to really pay attention to. But what I've noticed notice with them, their wingers are very skilled. They are young, but they are very skilled. They'd like to come across the box and shoot from distance. So that's one thing that the US Is going to have to really pay attention to. And I would say as well, we can't underestimate, you know, any team, because now once you hit the knockout stage, you know, in a World cup, anything can happen. That being said, I think the US Are in a prime position to get a result against this Bosnian side. I think you'll see along the lines of what you saw in the. In the first game. Game. Now that Pulisic is healthy as well, so expect him to be back probably playing, I would say at least, probably starting and if he can last, you know, the 90. But probably expect at least like 60 minutes, you know, from the player like that. And then just look at that first game for the US and that's where you're going to see probably that main lineup, Balagoon and. And such and McKinney and the. And the usuals.
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Brian Kilmeade
Right. That we got used to. So Kobe, if I put you to coach of the team, if you tell me I got two good wingers to worry about on either side, do I just tell the midfielders defense first and go all the way back or do I put four in the back? How would you handle that?
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Kobe Jones
Yeah, it's an interesting situation. It's. I always think with the wingers and that it's. It's a. It's a game of cat and mouse. It's like who's going to dominate, who's going to pin the other one back, you know, more. So I would say say, okay, they have good wingers, but they're not going to be dangerous if they're playing defense all the time. So you want to feed a Pulisic as much as possible on the offensive side where he can get behind the wingers and that's going to force them to track back defensively and consistently. And then you can do whatever damage you can there. And then, you know, as they do come forward when they do have those opportunities where the wingers have the ball, you want your defensive midfielders to slide out from one side or the other to give that defensive support. So you're wing back, your fullback out wide isn't by themselves all the time. 1v1.
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Brian Kilmeade
So you know, and you know, your team didn't have an mls. You know, you had some players playing overseas, but you guys were able to train together for years. You had this tight unit, got everyone got the chance to know you. Nobody would doubt how tight you guys didn't have. You had your problems. I got it. But you Were extremely tight. So do you look at the. How would you rate this locker room and this 26 person roster who really came together late and didn't have to qualify with, which also oftentimes is taxing, but bonding?
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Kobe Jones
Yeah, I think this group is doing a very good job of bonding. Maybe bonding through a little bit of the stripe over the last year where they were being criticized a lot and not getting the results that were expected. And I think it's a different world now. Right. So when all those criticisms come in, these players can communicate with one another, you know. You know, calling across the world and bonding in that way, talking about the games, you know, reminiscing about the games, talking about what they need to do. I think that's the difference from like my era. It's just like, okay, the game is done, there's the criticism and you're kind of on your own. It was very difficult, you know, to get in touch with people overseas and such. So now I think they've come together as a unit and I think there's a good understanding, understanding of the hierarchy within the organization and the ones, the ones that have been there for a while, the leaders in the McKinney and the Pulisics have, have stepped up and stand out, you know, from the rest, where if there's any issues or anything that needs to be dealt with, they're handling, handling it all internally.
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Brian Kilmeade
So now that there's these hydration breaks, it's a chance to coach, right? It's a chance to get to you guys. Instead of bringing one guy aside and whispering his ears, tell the other guy. Now you can really coach. Is Poncho Chino at that level that you guys played at that I would never be able to understand? Is he able to do things tactically that could make a difference now that you're coming over at the halfway point of every half?
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Kobe Jones
Yes, yes, without a doubt. And not just Pochettino. You see it with all, all the teams, you know, they're all taking advantage of it. And if you really pay attention to it, you notice in some of those teams a shift in the play. You notice there's, there's a lot more attacking for some of the teams and some goals that occur, you know, right after. Because in that moment in time, instead of Pochettino being on the sidelines and trying to get someone's attention and telling, you know, hey, pass this message on to someone. He can bring everyone together and gets it, can get in their face, you know, can talk to them calmly or whatever, to make sure that it gets done. Because I would tell you from the perspective of a player, you know, they. There's a lot of times during the match where a coach could be screaming and you kind of glance over and he's trying to get your attention, and you're just like, whatever, I got things to do, you know, I got to concentrate on what's at hand. But now with the match breaks here, you can. You can have that time. You can understand, you can shift things tactically as well as far as positioning, telling players where to go defensively that a coach has seen from the sidelines.
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Brian Kilmeade
Now, I don't know how much you had to study the game. You had your own game, but do you know anybody that you think played themselves into first guy off the bench or starting lineup from yesterday?
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Kobe Jones
Well, I just look at Sebastian Burhalter and what he's able to give, and you mentioned it, right? He's a constant contributor, you know, off the bench. Now, the question is, you know, sometimes that's a. You know, you're putting a nail in your own coffin. Does now Pochettino think. Think that, okay, he's. He's my super sub, you know, and doesn't give him the chance to be a starter, you know, in that. In that situation. So, and, and even with that result yesterday, I don't put any blame on the players. I just think that Pochettino has it in his mind already of how good the team played in the first match that that is his A1. Now, if there's any other injuries or anything like that, then he'll kind of bring play other players into the.
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Brian Kilmeade
Into the fold and get back to that starting 11. So the next game, if they're lucky enough to. Not lucky, if they play up to their ability and beat Bosnia, the next bracket, it looks to be Egypt or South Korea. I don't think the US should be underdog to either one of those teams. You might have seen them play. I only see highlights. What do you think?
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Kobe Jones
I mean, if you're a U.S. fan, if you're the U.S. team and the coaching staff there, you gotta be pretty happy with the route that you have in front front of you. I mean, because there's a lot harder routes where you could be into ending up in front of a Spain, Portugal, Morocco, you know, stuff like this. So if they do get through, no Bosnia and then it's in Egypt or South Korea, that's probably one of the better matchups for, for the United States. And I do think that they have the ability As a complete team, you know, to be, as you said, not the underdog, but, dare I say, the favorite, you know, in those two matchups,
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Brian Kilmeade
Kobe, the fans, I mean, people like to say, black it out. I get into the zone. But for 72,000 people in screaming red, white, and blue, singing the national anthem, singing Take me home and a salute to the team after gathering around the scoreboard show by the tens of thousands. I never thought in my lifetime I'd see it. You lived it. I mean, that was your thing. Can you describe the difference of the support these guys are getting? Not that you didn't get good support, but not compared to these guys.
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Kobe Jones
Yeah, this is. This is beyond anything that I could possibly have imagined and definitely hadn't experienced this. This is another level, like you said, where you have the fans creating their own nostalgia, you know, bringing almost just like making the Take Me Home song being adopted, you know, for this US Team and. And, you know, possibly for all US Teams in the future, you know, so this is great. I love how they have shown out and shown up, you know, and been so positive behind this team. I mean, it. I can say without a doubt, the players, they see it, they recognize it, and they take it to heart. And this helps players on the field, just knowing that they have that support, you know, behind them.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, I don't think there's any question. I think the coach says they're like the 12th man out there, and then Seattle is extremely loud. We'll see of Santa Clara on that. Would that be, you know, be something. The other thing is interesting for the players. I love the fact that they seem to love the national anthem. The hands over the heart. Most of them are singing it. I mean, that's what you need. You need people playing for more than themselves. They're playing for their country, but you wonder sometimes how much they are. But I think our guys are as zoned in to playing for the red, white, and blue as any.
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Kobe Jones
Yeah, I think that's one of the great things. Things that happens when you. When you are part of the national team, because you are not just representing yourself and anymore. And it goes beyond that. It goes beyond yourself, your family, your city. You're representing your country, your country internationally. You put on that jersey, you have the badge, you know, and one of the things that I think maybe is lost to the fan, but every player will tell you, you realize what it means to wear that badge. Badge when you are, you know, not just within the U.S. but when you go around the world and you're playing these other teams and you'll see your US Fans come and support you when you're playing far off in another country that it just means so much. So just to be able to wear the badge and to hear the national anthem and look at the flag and be able to sing that national anthem as it's going, knowing that you're stepping on the field to represent your country. Yeah, it's special, without a doubt. And I think all, all those players out there understand that. And they have pride. They have pride with it. You see it.
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Brian Kilmeade
And Kobe, what's the next game you're calling?
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Kobe Jones
Oh, I, I get, I get the joy of calling, you know, a big game, Cinderella story game today, the Cape Verde or the Cabo Verde, whichever you want to call it, versus Saudi Arabia. That is happening, happening today.
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Brian Kilmeade
Awesome. Kobe Jones, thanks so much. I'll talk to you along the way. Hopefully it's going to be a long journey. I know we're going to go to the 19th. I'll talk to you again. But hopefully were talking about the U.S. team. Kobe Jones, thanks so much.
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Kobe Jones
Thanks, Brian.
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Brian Kilmeade
Great seeing you again. Same here. Back in a moment.
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Brian Kilmeade (Show Announcer)
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Brian Kilmeade
America, you deserve and are owed an apology. And I'm gonna say sorry on behalf of all the countries outside America and their media and the narrative they paint about America. Hundreds and thousands of fans for the World cup are now seeing America through their own eyes, realizing the narrative they've
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Jim Jordan
been fed is false.
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Brian Kilmeade
This weird narrative that is a place
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Jim Jordan
that you shouldn't go.
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Brian Kilmeade
But now the tides are changing. That is just some of the fans that are stepping up and speaking out about the America they seen, though how much they're enjoying it. Ones that don't even have tickets to the game. They're adding so much and they're enjoying so much of this country. I know in New York City they've taken over almost every sports bar, but they've done it peacefully. People are drinking. Usually it's combustible, high stakes sports. It's not happening. I went to a game last night. I watched Ecuador Jones Germany in the afternoon. I mean, from the. Even though it was a long walk and people are parked a mile away, you don't know exactly where you're going. Got so much help along the way. It was in and out. I'm telling you, I walked through crowded hallways, 72,000 people, all strangers couldn't be nicer. And that's what I'm seeing in New York City and I think we're seeing in Boston, Miami as well as Philadelphia, Dallas and around the end score certainly Los Angeles now San Francisco, Santa Clara. So it's been great. So that's what's kind of cool about America. 250. Quick note. Coming up on One Nation Sunday at 10 o', clock, got a great roster of guests. Joe Manchin on what's going on with the radical socialists taking over the party. Why did the Democrats let it happen? Where's the leadership to stop it? I'm also going to be able to do an interview with Taylor Twelman. Taylor Twelman is one of the elite players in the MLS who's turned into a fantastic broadcaster analyst. He's going to break down the US national team just like Kobe Jones championship just did for us here. We also have quite a few interviews, including I have another interview with Larry Kudlow is going to be in my B block. He's going to break down what the economic reality is. When oil goes down to the barrel to $72 a barrel, why are we not seeing $2.90 gas? The President's getting a little frustrated with it. I want to get the reality of it. Also. If we have ups and downs and gyrations with the strait, what does it mean and what is permanently changing for the strait? I know, for example, Qatar is rerouting its natural gas and Saudi Arabia has taken 8 million barrels elsewhere from the strait. Can we expect more of that down in the future? All that coming your way. So it's going to be a big, big show coming up on One Nation at 10 o'.
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Eric Shawn
Clock.
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Brian Kilmeade
And don't forget to always keep it here. And see you tomorrow on Fox and Friends. Listen to the Brian kilmeade.
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Congressman John James
Foreign.
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Brian Kilmeade
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