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Vance’s Defense of Iran MOU is Not Helping Trump’s Agenda
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The Brian Kilmeade Show 07-17-2026
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Brian Kilmeade
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Brian Kilmeade (Radio Show Intro/Outro)
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Jonathan Hunt
all right.
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Brian Kilmeade
Hi everyone. Brian Kilmeade here. Get ready for a big show lot going on today. We close out a very consequential week. By the way, you could always get the show on YouTube. We're very excited about it. YouTube.com@thebrian kilmeade show. And again, get catch us streaming on the FOX News, our radio app. You get the FOX News app and you'll see the little headsets there. You click on it and it's become a TV show as well as a radio show. Just about our guests stream on it. And we appreciate you being here today. There's a lot going on and believe me, don't look past this meeting. And that is the president delivers remarks at the FIFA reception. He's going to be a Trump Tower. I think he's familiar with that commute. He also today is going to be a presence at the US Iraqi business summit. What's the big deal? Well, Iraq's got a bunch of militias there and Iran's controlling them. And they also want us to gradually move out. So we want to do more deals with them and make sure they're not dealing deals with Iran. So a consequential meeting. So let's get to the big three.
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Shannon Bream
Number three, we look forward to the
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Caroline Levitt
final match on Sunday. And I know the president looks forward to attending. But I think the world saw that this president and this country is able to put on the greatest show in sports in the world.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yep. That is Caroline Levitt. She was back given the press briefings yesterday. World cup comes to a close on Sunday. What it means to America culturally, financially and domestically. Can you say $20 billion. Unbelievable. Number two, a majority of Democrats in this building refused to vote to send billions of dollars in weapons to the Israeli military. That is what is going on right now with Israel, Israel losing support in the US and there is a fallout in the region and globe. Why I think it's abundantly clear they remain our most loyal ally and should be treated like that. And although the Dems have abandoned them, the GOP should not.
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General Jack Keane
Number one, we came close to taking just about everything away from the Houthis once before. We didn't finish that campaign because they were willing to do what they were willing to stop. And they know full well what's coming if they attempt to do this.
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Jonathan Hunt
Yup.
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Brian Kilmeade
That is General Jack Keane with me this morning. Day six and the game plan is clear. Systematically, militarily, take command of the strait. Iran knows it might use the Houthis as leverage to stop it. We'll play this out and what it might turn out to be. President Trump's most effective military campaign to date and one of his greatest accomplishments. He's choosing not to make this an all in all, hands on in, let's make this consuming type of war. He's doing it. He's systematically doing it. He also knows the poll numbers say, hey, we're tired of these foreign wars. But he also is attacking a war and an enemy that's not going away, that's almost 50 years in the making, that continues to be a threat in the region and arm itself up the best way it can and target the one democracy in the area that happens to be our primary ally and that is Israel. It had. They have to be stopped. They'll write about this retrospectively, but currently people are focused on inflation, they're focused on the price of oil and gas, especially Republicans worried about the midterms because history is working against them. But what the President's doing now by going all in six straight days of intensive strikes, going back to what we started in February, March, I think is fantastic. Here is what General Jackeen told me this morning.
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General Jack Keane
Cut for Iran, the straits for Moses is a strategic asset. No matter what happens here, they will continue to want to take it back from us because it's number one. They don't have a nuclear power capability. They don't. They're not even close to developing a weapon. Now, this is their number one strategic asset. It gives them leverage over the Gulf states in a region and they truly want to have an element of control here and they are willing to fight us for it. And we have got to take it away from them and prevent them from ever getting it back under their control again.
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Brian Kilmeade
And here's what we're doing. We're blowing up the roads and bridges around there leading to the port of Bandar Abbas. That's where they're beginning to set up infrastructure as towards tolls on international waters in the strait that has so, so much oil and gas going through there. It's a key hub overlooking the strait, critical for controlling the waterway. And where the IRGC has a lot of their drone strikes and some of their weapons. That's what we're blowing up right now. These strikes mark the six straight days of pretty consistent attacks. We are taking it apart. Time is not on their side and we, we have blockaded them. We've stopped allowing them to make money on oil and gas. So the United States expanded the airstrikes and they were interdicting the barges that are coming through. It looks like this morning around 5:00 Eastern Time, a.m. eastern Time, they hit a tanker. I'm not sure. That's just one of the reports have. We're looking to follow up on it. What is Iran doing? They're retaliating, targeting Qatar, believe it or not. Who's acting like a mediator in all this hit. Jordan actually aimed even for Syria. Incredible that they're doing this. It's random. But our bases are there in Bahrain. They also heard air sire air raid sirens. No sign of any legitimate damage. I wouldn't believe them if they announced it. So this is what we people have been saying. I believe you have to finish the job, Mr. President. You elected to do it. You can't go halfway. Call it talks and they're surviving, will be winning. Cut 5.
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General Jack Keane
They broke the MOU within days of their president signing it. That's a reality. Why? Because this is at their center of gravity. This is their strategic asset. We should not fall prey to this recent and now diplomatic overture to make a deal again. They just want to stop us from taking this strategic asset away from them. We've got to get on with doing
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Brian Kilmeade
it and we should. And this is what they said. If we start, we've started blowing up their bridges. They said if you hit the power plants, we're going to tell the Houthis to start hitting you and shutting down the Red Sea or the variations the ports around there or make it a threat so people stop going through. What would that mean? Well, Saudi Arabia, for example, is reprogrammed through pipelines and shipping. A lot of their transit, energy transit something like 8 million barrels a day if you stop it there and at the Strait of Hormuz, it could put the price of oil up to $150 per barrel. We're not going to allow that. So I asked Jack Keane about that and he basically says we could finish off the Houthis once and for all. We almost did it last year and they know it. And that's part of the reasons why they're not involved yet. But they are showing that they're looking to do something and go all in on stopping the strait. We will see how that goes. But they're starting militarily to move some assets around. The other thing I wanted to go over was what's happening with Israel. JD Vance has added to the problems, showing a break for the gop, making up stories about Israel forcing us into a battle, making it clear he was not for the Iran war. But now he's trying to help out with the Iran war. He's already distanced himself and getting ready to run for president. Here he is with Joe Rogan, which, by the way, they wanted him on Capitol Hill working the back back rooms in order to get a second reconciliation package going. You know what he said? I'm doing Joe Rogan's podcast. I can't be there. Are you kidding? I mean, the president happy about that? Evidently Mike Pence spent a lot of time on Capitol Hill. It's one of these offices. As vice president, he was asked to me in two places and usually people come from that world. So it's not bad. Especially J.D. vance had two years into his Senate seat and knows the back rooms there, knows the people you would think he'd want to spend more time. Here he is with Joe Rogan talking about the Israeli government. Listen to this. And by the way, everything he says about this to me is wrong. Cut 14
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J.D. Vance
beyond a shadow of a doubt that there have been people within the Israeli government who are trying to like actually shift us away from that policy because they want to continue the military campaign. There are some people within their system we know beyond a shadow of a doubt who are manipulating and trying to change American public opinion to keep the war going on indefinitely. Again, not towards any objective, but just indefinitely.
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Brian Kilmeade
Okay, that is not true. Now, are there people within the Knesset that are AOC or squad, like characters on the fringe? Sure, I guess. I don't know. But with J.D. vance and every Democrat, the 103 Democrats that voted not to fund give funds to Israel should understand is if their enemies were not rocketing them, making Israel an enemy, the Houthis, Hamas and Hezbollah and Iran, essentially the quarterback of terror, Iran, Israel would not be looking to stay on the war footing. Nobody wants war in Israel. Nobody. They're looking to survive. And they're not going to be victims if you're going to send rockets into the northern part of their country, like Hezbollah and Hamas, into the southern part of their country from Gaza. And if you're going to do long range, inter long range missiles from, and other things, and drones from Iran, you're going to get attacked back, you're going to get preemptive strikes. They're not interested in fighting. Why would he, as Vice President, United States say there are people who just want perpetual war? Who, who are these people? Are you saying the Prime Minister wants perpetual war? I mean, that's stuff that you expect extreme squad members to say. And I wonder if he even pre thinks this stuff. I think it's really detrimental for the Vice President to be saying stuff that's so erroneous. Maybe because he wants to kiss up to the podcast class who has seemingly jumped off support for Israel. It gets worse. Cut 15.
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J.D. Vance
And then can I just say one other thing about this? Because there are people, you know, you see Mike Pence, who's sort of a super hawk, my predecessor, who say this, there are people, you know, who are super hawkish in the American system who have attacked the deal and frankly in some ways have tried to derail the deal. And what I always say to those people is, what is your proposal? What is your actual argument?
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Brian Kilmeade
Well, the deal you cut is so terrible, sadly for Iran, they got the best deal of a lifetime. 300 billion in funds and you have 60 days of peace where you could trade oil for free, where all you have to do is promise not to make a nuclear weapon and you could be back with all sanctions relief. That was a gift to Iran, which they're too, too stupid to understand. You'll never get a better deal than that. It was a terrible deal. It allowed them to think they could control the strait, if not within 60 days. After 60 days they were setting up shop there. And because of rule five, it says it pretty clearly. And the $300 billion you say was coming from other people. 300 billion Arab funds. It sounds like extortion to me. So I don't know. J.D. vance, if people don't like your deal, it doesn't mean they don't like you. It doesn't mean that they want perpetual war. It doesn't mean they're a war hawk. They know a bad deal when they saw it and you're a part of it. So what is your deal? Not that I'll tell you that. It was to be to finish the job and truly defang this menace of the Middle East. So that's really disturbing. What's emerging from the vice president not helping the president's agenda already. You expect that maybe late 2027, but it's happening now. But maybe he's not going to run. If he doesn't run, Rubio steps in and he wins. If he does run, it's going to he's going to have a lot of trouble. And I think he's really going to have trouble earning the nomination. I know Ted Cruz, for one, I'm sure is running. Josh Hawley might be running. Rubio will not run if J.D. vance runs. But there are other people out there that certainly are thinking about running on the right. And we'll see what happens. So this is the Brian Kill me Joe. When we come back, we take some of your calls. I'll read some of your emails. Go to Brian kilmeade.com for more or 1 866-408-7669 don't move.
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Brian Kilmeade
So I'm gonna be going to the World cup game on Sunday covering for Fox and Friends and probably staying for the game. I would hope to. I thought the World Cup, I cannot believe it generated $20 billion. $20 billion. 104 games, 48 teams. They're probably going to expand it, but no one's ever seen anything like this. It's just, what, every once in a while things just come off great. But it's usually one game. Well, that super bowl was great. The venue was fantastic, the broadcasting was great and the game was awesome. This is non stop drama. I mean, Cape Verde, this small island off the coast of Africa, ends up almost beating Argentina, tying, tying Spain. I mean, how do you figure? The US Team got on a heck of a run after that. Great start, had a terrible finish, but still had Everybody talking about a 40 million people watch their last game, which was a field of 16. So now you have Argentina against Spain. And in terms of World cup play, you couldn't ask for to a better marquee matchup. The defending World cup champions against the European Champions who just beat the number one team in the world in France. In terms of drama, you have the coach of Argentina was mentored by the coach of Spain in terms of drama. Messi spent 20 years playing for Barcelona. He went over there as a 16 year old and he stayed with that team. And they're one of the best teams in the world. Spain loves the guy. So, you know, I'm gonna have the hatred between the clubs that you had with Spain, you know, Argentina and England and all the other things in terms of. In terms of what the game is like and what's it like playing against Argentina, why they always seem to come back, win in the end. Ibrahimovic, who's done a fantastic job as a Fox Sports commentator, said this about playing against Argentina. Cut 32.
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Zlatan Ibrahimovic
I played and I played against. And with.
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Howie Kurtz
So you.
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Zlatan Ibrahimovic
You. They play with a lot of emotion. They're passionate people, players. And when you play against them, you feel them. They're aggressive, they provocate, you better keep cool. And they always give 100%. It's loyal, is a loyal player, players. And when you have them with you, you know they're going to do their job. You know they're going to fight for you and fight for themselves. So it's not easy to play against them. But my thing was, when you smash me, I'm going to smash your back.
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Brian Kilmeade (Radio Show Intro/Outro)
Yeah.
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Brian Kilmeade
Ibrahimovic is a monster. He's like six, two, plays like a madman. Extremely confident. He comes off like that on camera too. I think he's a fantastic. Whoever picked him up on Fox absolutely nailed it because he's a great commentator. He comes off with like almost a funny swagger, but he does has a cop with so much in his career. 99% of the games have been sold out. The average attendance is 64,500. Revenue is up 44% since 2022. The cutter. The Qatar World cup, which was considered a success, but the Times also worked out the president. United States going to have a presser today and on Sunday he's going to go to his first game. Politics have almost totally stayed out of it, except for, I guess, somebody in Argentina. One of the players held up the Falkland island sign. They feel like it belongs to them. Remember, the England had a mini war against them too. So it's just been great. And the next game is New York, New Jersey. Here's the problem that no one expected.
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General Jack Keane
The.
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Brian Kilmeade
The fires in Canada have cast a poisonous shadow in the air. Literally. I mean, you walk outside, you feel it in your lungs. If you're gonna go play in that. I don't know how you do it. Do they gotta make it later in the day if they find out the wind's gonna shift. Perhaps. But if I looked out right now from New York City to Giant Stadium, it would be blurry, it would be obscured. I tried to fly in on Wednesday night. They delayed my flight for three and a half hours because they had to delay the number of planes landing in Newark at LaGuardia Airport. Now, in Newark, it was better. That's New Jersey. But in LaGuardia it was. They had to. Evidently, you land a plane every 12 minutes. They put us at 30. So that knocked every plane off its schedule, knocked us for three hours. But they told me it was because of the smoke. I'm wondering. Of course it's going to affect the game. You thought elevation was going to be challenging. Man, it would affect the game. If you're going to run around and you're going to feel like you're choking, I think that would be pretty significant. Meanwhile, the mayor of New York City's got another fortunate moment because he's got, you know, you got the Knicks, made him look good. You brought a lot of revenue in. I'm glad, for the city. And then you have the World cup, obviously, and then you have Taylor Swift. This all brings money and attention to New York City. And he's going to benefit now because New York City's got the final. Why do they have the final? They had to put together great bids. Yeah. But the person that brought the World cup here is more responsible than anyone else. That's President Trump in his first term. And one of the regrets he had, he said, by the time he gets here, I won't be president. Now he's obviously president. The other thing he did to get the Olympics, remember, Barack Obama flew across the country, across the world, in order to put our bid in for the Olympics. And we didn't get. Was embarrassing. And we got the 94 World cup, but they thought we commercialized. Commercialized it too much. So they didn't give it back to us for a while. President got it back. We had to split it with Canada and Mexico for a while. But now all attention's in New York City. We come back. I'm going to talk about the media, its coverage. Also the media and its coverage on other things, like the president, United States with Howie Kurtz. Listen to Brian Kilme.
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Brian Kilmeade (Radio Show Intro/Outro)
If you're interested in it. Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmeade.
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Alan Rothenberg
This has been a spectacular World cup in all respects. The play on the field has been and the pitch, if you will, has been great. The stars have shown the TV audience of 40 million viewers of the US Belgium game just shows how much interest there is in this country. All of which I think is going to lead to an exponential continued growth of the sport at all levels.
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Brian Kilmeade
Alan Rothenberg, who brought the 94 World cup here, I think he did the 84 Olympics. He handled the soccer. He actually started the LA Aztecs for the owner of the team, Jack Kent Cook at the time, I believe his name was, who ended up owning the Redskins. And then he launched the mls. So he watched this whole thing and knows from a business perspective how successful 94 was. And this has surpassed it. Even if you're not a soccer fan, just look at business. It's very rare when you have something of this magnitude come off this well, almost better than you thought. Howie Kurtz joins us now. Fox News political analyst, host of Media Buzz Meter on that's his podcast. How is it amazing that we just have a good story, a good story on the field and off the field. And the economic portion of the World cup is also a good story.
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Howie Kurtz
Giving everything else that's going on in the world wars and, you know, demonization. It is nice to have a good story. It's been good for ratings. And it seems to me that Brian, that you keep waiting for something to go wrong and you know, it's just, it's just a complete and total win. Even for all the teams like the US Team that got booted out early.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, I mean the US Team I guess did a little bit better than expected. But the way they left has got a bad taste in everybody's mouth because they seem to have fold in the controversy with the red card. President did nothing wrong. The prime minister of England, by the way, Starmer called up and said you're trying to move the start time on the Mexico City game. Forget it. You can't do that. It gives Mexico an advantage. I don't know what his point was,
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Howie Kurtz
but he's at office.
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Brian Kilmeade
He didn't move it. Yeah, yeah, he's out of office now maybe because of that. So that's why it's successful. And then Sunday is going to be the culmination the drama. So we they before it started how you saw the stories. Tickets are too expensive. Nobody's coming to hotels. America is not liked. No one's going to come visit the World Cup. All of it was erroneous. In fact, the one that was struggling initially the most was Kansas City. And people thought, oh, these Europeans don't want to go to, you know, this rural community. And they love Kansas City. They seem to love the culture. And they said it's 99% sold out, even the knockout games.
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Howie Kurtz
Well, nothing like exceeding expectations. So how about how much. You know, the World cup is always a major event. You know, when I was growing up in Brooklyn, Brian, we didn't play soccer. I mean, we played Little league baseball, and we used to play touch football on the street. We had to stop when the cars came. But now, you know, in this generation, my kids, other families, I know soccer is huge. It is really exploding. And the World Cup, I think, is just going to cement that as the worldwide sport.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah. I want you to hear what some of the people are saying. They went down with the cameras to Times Square to talk to people that look like they were soccer fans or tourists. Cut 30.
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Tomi Lahren
So we took the Times Square to ask people what their favorite things are about America. Burger, pizza. Who are you rooting for?
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Brian Kilmeade
Algeria. The best country in the world.
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Tomi Lahren
And what's your favorite thing about visiting America?
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Brian Kilmeade
America is great for all the beauty that it comes with.
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Kian Taj Bakish
Right.
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Brian Kilmeade
Beautiful people.
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Tomi Lahren
Have you had, like, any special American food?
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Brian Kilmeade
Pizza and beer is what we stand for. We just got a couple of double cheeseburger, smashed. The street food, especially the hot dog in the street here.
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Tomi Lahren
What's your favorite thing about America in. In general, when you visit in.
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Brian Kilmeade
In. In America? Times Square. Times Square. I just love the environment. The people here, we're still. They are so friendly, so it's a good place to be. This land is huge, and you have so much possibilities that we don't have in Europe. So, yeah, you have a great country. So it's just. I mean, that's pretty much the feeling. People like, we're not putting them on tours. We're just saying, come to the game. And they seem to like the country.
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Howie Kurtz
Yeah. I hadn't thought about the geopolitical implications, but, yeah, it's been a great advertisement for America and how we can put on a massive event like this. And so you're right. It really has broken through. You know, in a time when we have 5,000 other things we could be paying attention to, everybody's into the World Cup.
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Brian Kilmeade
So the other thing. Let's move over to politics. Howie, are you surprised what has emerged on the left? So you look at the party in power, they always take a pounding in the midterms. And you thought the Democrats would do that to coast to take back the House, which they're barely in the minority, and have a shot at the Senate. What do you think the rise of socialism and the DSA has done to the political landscape as we are sitting here in July, knowing we got a few months to see what shakes out in the primary process?
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Howie Kurtz
I guess the technical term is catastrophe. I mean, we're talking here about a relative handful of socialists who are getting a lot of attention in these low turnout primaries. Started out with Mamdani in New York and has spread to other places as well. I mean, it kind of encapsulates how the party is moving more and more to the left. And even though some Democrats who we would just call liberals, but they're not socialists, don't want to be tarred with that brush. It's happening. And there seems to be a litmus test now, which I didn't think I would see in my lifetime, where you have to be against Israel, and that's where the party is moving as well. So if you had asked me a month ago, I would have said, yeah, look, no matter how the Democrats screw this up, they're going to end up controlling the House. Now, I'm not so sure because of these socialists. It's not just that they're in favor of socialistic policies. You could argue Social Security socialistic and programs like that. It is that they make the party look like they're not in charge anymore. And the people who. And also they've said horrible things, not just about Israel, but, you know, defund the police, defund the prisons. I'm not so sure that they're now a lock to take over the House. It'll be close.
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Brian Kilmeade
You know, it's just interesting because now in Maine, they gotta scramble to replace Graham Platner, but instead of doing what South Carolina is doing with Lindsey Graham to replace him after his tragic passing last weekend, the. They're doing a vote, they're doing a primary and they're going to do it in August. In Maine, they said, we're just going to get 600 delegates together. We're going to go pick somebody out. We are going to really have a say in it. And then eight random people got on stage and that was it. But you're not. You're watching for entertainment. You sound like you're going to vote if you're in Maine. That's still the Democratic weird way of handling the primary process. They got Kamala Harris the job, that Joe Biden kept the job. RFK tried to run against them. The party Pushed him out. Remember Hillary Clinton, we found out later, was controlling the DNC and made sure that Bernie Sanders didn't win. They don't seem to have learned their lesson here. Just to put the power in the, in the power of the, with the people who are in the party.
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Howie Kurtz
Well, a lot of Democrats are fed up and there is this sort of strong anti establishment trend because, you know, a lot of Democrats feel particularly like working class Democrats that they've been made, all these promises are made and nothing ever changes. So there is that sort of stream of resentment toward the Democrats. And look, the media played a very big role in creating the myth and overlooking the obvious flaws, the Nazi tattoo and so forth of Graham Platner. And now they're stuck. And you know, there's a bunch of hacks jockeying for position on this and I don't know, I think the odds of them beating Susan Collins now I've gone way down and without Maine, there's no way. I never thought they were going to take over the Senate anyway, but now I think there's definitely no way that they're going to win, you know, six of the contests, all six that they need to win.
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Brian Kilmeade
You know, it's interesting because they got this guy Abdul El Sayed running for the Senate seat against Mike Rogers, who's a formidable candidate, barely lost to Slotkin last, last cycle and he's from the FBI, military background, was on the Select Committee on Intelligence. Just a solid, not a big Trumper, not anti Trumper, just solid Republican. And I think there's a bit, you know, better than me, but there seems to be a panic on the left to make sure that El Sayed does not win the primary. Suddenly he's got an endorsement, you know, from Gary Peters, who he was going to replace, and also Schumer. They also want to see the other candidate win.
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Howie Kurtz
Yeah, well, good luck with that. I mean, a lot of politics is about enthusiasm and you know, most voters are busy. They've got jobs, kids and all of that and they're not going to be studying a bunch of position papers. I will say this for some of these candidates that, you know, they have charisma and they know how to connect with people. But when you take the next step and look at what they stand for and what they've said in the past and in many cases not taking it back, including Mamdani, who still has not renounced the from the river to the Sea meaning wipe Israel off the map. It's hard for me to believe that the Democratic Party has pushed itself or been pushed so aggressively to the left. And I think it's an absolutely. It shows you they have not learned the lesson of why they lost everything in 2024. And that's a problem.
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Brian Kilmeade
You mentioned the DSA. They're proud to say they want to get rid of the Senate. They're proud to say they want to get rid of the presidency. They're proud to say they wanted to fund the Department of War. They're proud to say they're going to increase taxes on billionaires and the successful and give people a 32 hour work week and pay them like they're working 40. So here's some of the explanation. Tell me if you feel better about it when a Sheikh Siddique weighs in on c span cut 42 about why to get rid of the Senate.
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Jonathan Hunt
The Senate is a very undemocratic institution. A state with a small population has the same representation as a state that has 500,000 people. It gets the same representation as a state that has 40 million people. We do believe that government should be proportional to the population. And that's a very basic core principle. So the House of Representatives is more Democratic that way. And we just don't see the point of the Senate.
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Brian Kilmeade
Has he put an ounce of work into finding out how even the Constitutional Convention took place in Federalist Papers? Maybe you'd have an answer to that, but I find that astounding.
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Howie Kurtz
It is true, but it was the compromise that enabled us to adopt the Constitution and for George Washington to be sworn in rather, which was that small states got equal representation. But of course, the House being much bigger, it's a very different story. I for one, am very much looking forward, as I know you are, Brian, to reading Joe Biden's memoir, which is gonna come out two weeks after the midterms because, you know, the Democrats really wanna go back there and relive the Biden presidency.
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Alan Rothenberg
Right.
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Brian Kilmeade
But Howie, they did get a victory because they told him you have to release it after the election.
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General Jack Keane
Oh, yeah.
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Howie Kurtz
That would have been even more of a disaster from the Democratic point of view. Look, any president or former president can do a memoir if he wants, but it's just going to remind a lot of people as we head toward 2028 after these midterms, that Biden's term as we could all see him deteriorating now we know why he was kept away from the press. That we could just see that whole debate again is not going to help the Dems.
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General Jack Keane
Yeah.
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Brian Kilmeade
Before we go, when we talk about 28 I know the Democrats are going to have like 12 guys, 12 men and women up there, maybe more, but. And the Republicans had that, too in 2016, had two separate debate stages. But I think on the right, people are assuming the Vice President Vance is not going to get much of a challenge, especially when Rubio made it clear if he runs, I'm not running, but I think he's going to get a challenge. When I see that he told he chose the Joe Rogan show after going instead of going to Capitol Hill a couple of days ago on Tuesday to work this second reconciliation package and other things. And then when you see some of the controversial things that I think they're controversial about Israel, you know, that he made it clear that we screwed up when it comes to the Epstein files, I'm president. I don't know how pleased he is about that. And then he came out and basically made it clear through different channels not denying these four against the Iran war or whatever we're calling it now. Howie, do you believe that there's going to be people outside? I know Ted Cruz has basically told me he's going to run, but do you think that he's going to get significant challenge on that debate stage?
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Howie Kurtz
I wouldn't say significant challenge. I think, well, with the backing of Donald Trump and let's assume that Marco Rubio goes on the ticket as number two, that's a pretty strong ticket. But it all depends on at that point in time, you know, a million years from now, in 28, whether or not that's seen as an asset or not. In other words, like it or not, they are tied to the Trump record and Trumpism. But if I had to bet, and it's so far down the road, of course, Brian, I would say J.D. vance is gonna be the nominee.
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Brian Kilmeade
Right. Who do you think would likely get on stage? Do you think DeSantis gives it a shot? You think Nikki Haley tries it again? I mentioned Ted Cruz, Josh Hawley. Do you think some of them would say, you know, that's the aspiration I have.
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Howie Kurtz
You know, once you're bitten by the presidential bug, the fever doesn't go away. So I could see somebody like Nikki HALEY Trying again. DeSantis, I think, had his shot and, you know, very effective governor, but proved to be not a very good campaigner, very closed. His wife actually has a much brighter personality. I've talked to her as well. So it all depends on whether or not somebody thinks they have a shot or. Look, let's say you run and you lose and you get A cable contract or a book contract or something like. It never hurts to be on the stage, even if you're going to get your ass whooped.
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Brian Kilmeade
Glenn Youngkin is another guy that'd be very formidable if there wasn't. And I remember Reagan waited for George H.W. bush to endorse him. Famously, I read that Eisenhower waited on Nixon. He was his vice president, waited for him just to basically lock up the nomination. Said, you got to go win it yourself. I wonder, what would you know? Trump does everything unorthodox. How do you think that he would handle this?
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Howie Kurtz
I think what matters most to Donald Trump at this point is he's not a guy who sits around a lot thinking about his legacy. But I think he would be very invested in every possible way in seeing the groundwork that he will have laid in two different terms, obviously separated by the Biden term go forward. And the last thing he's gonna want is for any Democrat to come in and start reversing all the executive orders and all that. But of course, that's another question. Do the Democrats run against Donald Trump even though he can't be on the ballot or not? So I'm pretty good at raising questions today, but.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yes, you are.
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Howie Kurtz
2028 is a bit down the road. It's hard to have all the answers right now.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, I think by November 10, we're talking about 28 like it's the next day. Howie Kurtz, thanks so much. Check out his podcast. It's the Media Buzz Meter podcast. Thanks, Howie. Have a great weekend.
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Howie Kurtz
You too. You got it.
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Hey, welcome back, everybody. I'm just getting some emails and going through it. Dale writes me and says I've written before. I'm not a fan of JD Vance. They find himself serving. I will stay home before ever contemplating a vote. And I voted for Tom Trump three times. He thinks Don Jr. Should run. Also about Vance. This morning on Fox and Friends, you talked about the vice president appears to be increasingly coming out as anti Semitic out of his anti Semitic closet. We can't change the beliefs of people that they're entitled to. But discretion does form better part of valor. And going public on Rogan's show is really poor judgment. I think so too. I think he had a job to do. You tell Joe Rogan I just need another date. A date on a Friday, for example, when Congress isn't in session. That would make, that would make sense about the communist agenda. Dwayne writes me and said look at the 1963 legislation by the honorable year long, honorable year long of Florida on the 45 goals to infiltrate communism in America. Then look at how many, how many have taken place. A constrictor does not kill you quickly, but with a small squeeze with every breath. I got it. And this is what I worry about this cycle. Maybe they don't get out of the primaries except for some of them are going to win the general over in the very blue cities like New York and now in blue districts over in Colorado. But I worry we can we begin to get used to it. And then more and more people who are so called moderate say I can't win unless I bring up some of these socialist ideas. Unless I vilify landlords and billionaires and Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos. And I'm just going to do that. And I worry we'd slowly get used to this type of mindset where as much as democracy matters, so does free enterprise matter? It really does. It's all part of that ethos of America. Hey, it's Ryan Reynolds here for Mint Mobile. Now I was looking for fun ways
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Howie Kurtz
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Brian Kilmeade
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Howie Kurtz
So there goes my big idea for the commercial.
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Kian Taj Bakish
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Brian Kilmeade
Hi everyone from 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan. Heard around the country, around the world. This is the Brian Kilmeade Show. Our first time in studio. Jonathan Hunt's going to be here. I've talked to him in Los Angeles. He doesn't like to talk to me in New York for the most part, but he kind of roped into it because we have something in common. We cannot believe how great this World cup is and we spend our whole lives playing soccer. Of course, he was in England where they invented the game. So I imagine it's like imbued. For me, it's more of a choice. It's an unfathomable choice considering it was in the 70s when there's really nothing going on except the NASL and was a hot league for a while. Howard Cosell famously said soccer is the sport of the future. And he was one thing he was very wrong about that. The future could be now, though, after we speak to Jonathan. I also got Kian Taj Bakish and he is a visiting professor of international relations at nyu. And he recently got out of jail in prison in Iran, thanks to Joe Biden writing, I think, a $6 billion check. And he has a great perspective because a lot of his relatives are still there about how effective the US Campaign has been. So before we get to Jonathan, talk World cup and more. Another area of his expertise is the Middle East. So let's get to the big three.
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Shannon Bream
Number three, we look forward to the
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Caroline Levitt
final match on Sunday. And I know the president looks forward to attending, but I think the world saw that this president and this country is able to put on the greatest show in sports in the world.
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Howie Kurtz
True.
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Brian Kilmeade
Caroline Levitt on the Money. She comes back as press secretary yesterday. World cup comes to a close Sunday when it meet what it means to America culturally, financially and domestically and what it could do for U.S. soccer if they spend their money. Right. Number two, a majority of Democrats in this building refused to vote to send billions of dollars in weapons to the Israeli military. And Democrats are proud of that. 103 in the house voted to cut off Israel. Unthinkable just a couple of years ago. Israel losing support in the US and there's a fallout in the region and around the globe.
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General Jack Keane
Why?
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Brian Kilmeade
I think it's absolutely and abundantly clear they remain our most loyal ally in the world.
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General Jack Keane
Number one, we came close to taking just about everything away from the Houthis once before. We didn't finish that campaign because they were willing to do what they were willing to stop. And they know full well what's coming if they attempt to do this.
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Howie Kurtz
Yup.
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Brian Kilmeade
Day 6 and the game plan is clear. Systematically, militarily, take command of the strait. Iran knows it. It might use the Houthis, as you heard Jack Keane just mention, as leverage if they could stop action in the Red Sea. We'll play this out. What it might turn out to be President Trump's most effective, risky and rewarding military campaign. You know, you just told me how many times, Jonathan, you've been in the Middle east in, in Israel for long periods of time.
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Jonathan Hunt
Yeah, since 2002. I've been going there.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah. So can you explain knowing that, you know, about Israel and what they've been up against since the attack on October 7, the change in sentiment towards them here?
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Jonathan Hunt
I think it's inexplicable. I think they have lost the PR campaign. Certainly why that has happened is much more difficult to explain. But I think you look, you look at what's going on in American colleges, you, you look at the anti Israel sentiment there, the anti Israel sentiment being put forward by a lot of professors in American colleges. And, you know, I've seen it. I've seen it with my own kids, to be perfectly honest. They are persuaded by that. It's the trendy thing to do, I think, to be anti Israel. And it's deeply sad because it's not born out of a recognition or an understanding of the situation on the ground. I think it's tragic what the anti Semitism we're seeing here.
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Brian Kilmeade
Are you surprised that J.D. vance has had trouble pushing back on it? In fact, subtly, I think he's playing into it. Listen to him with Joe Rogan cut 15.
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J.D. Vance
And then can I just say one other thing about this, because there are people, you know, you see Mike Pence, who's sort of a super hawk, my predecessor, who say this. There are people, you know, who are super hawkish in the American system who have attacked the deal and frankly, in some ways have tried to derail the deal. And what I always say to those people is, what is your proposal? What is your actual argument?
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Brian Kilmeade
And he went on to say, a lot of that pushback is from elements in the Israeli government about. But the deal is, in my view, it's a terrible deal. The MoU is an absolutely awful deal.
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Jonathan Hunt
Yeah.
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Brian Kilmeade
And for people to criticize, for him, to think that he's not open for criticism on a deal that he just parachuted into is crazy. Yeah.
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Jonathan Hunt
I would agree. The MOU was a terrible deal, remains a terrible deal.
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Brian Kilmeade
And that was not. You're just speaking for our Gulf allies and Israel when you.
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Jonathan Hunt
I don't think you can, you can trust the Iranians on anything. And the, the language in the MOU was loosely written. I don't know where we go from here, because to make the Iranians understand, there has to be change you have to do. I think the only option at this point is to do more militarily. And I don't know that the President and the American people, for that matter, have the stomach for that.
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Brian Kilmeade
You know, what the President's doing is not trying to sell it. Just do it and at first take a pause, see if we get a deal. Took a pause, Thought he had a deal a couple of times. I think he does talk to people that sound reasonable. And Steve Witkoff, who he really likes as the Foreign minister, is ready to cut a deal and makes FAHITI and the IRGC look at the unreasonable ones, where if you listen to people that really know how the Iranians operate, there's really no difference. They just use that as a way to get a better deal.
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Jonathan Hunt
Yeah. They're playing for time, as they always do, and because they know it gets
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Brian Kilmeade
closer to the midterms.
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Jonathan Hunt
Right. And what strikes me as. As the terrible thing here is that the only talk we have now is about the Strait of Hormuz. It's like everybody's forgotten the nuclear issue, which is the whole point of the thing in the first place. Now we're just talking about getting ships through the Strait. It's crazy.
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Brian Kilmeade
Right. And one thing that General Keane did bring up to me this morning is because now they're getting a nuclear program, getting a nuclear bomb is further away.
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Jonathan Hunt
Yeah.
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Brian Kilmeade
Since 2025. Night Hammer, then we keep hitting it. We don't have any control of the pickaxe. The pickaxe because it's so far under underground. But I may wonder if there's a game plan for that. But the goal is now is to physically militarily take back the strait from what you know about the topography there and knowing that how easy and convenient and drones are. Do you think that's possible?
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Jonathan Hunt
I think it's really difficult without putting troops in much more in harm's way on Cog island, et cetera. It's. That is a huge stretch of coastline. It's about. I think it's about a Qu equivalent to the entire west coast of the US in terms of the length as to how you control that completely. And you can keep taking out Iranian assets along the strait there, but all they need are these tiny boats. And also you've got a bill, you know, a multimillion dollar tanker. Are you really going to take the risk? If Iran says we will, all they need to do is say we will blow you out of the water. That's all they need to do. It's the threat. None of these companies want to take the risk.
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Alan Rothenberg
Yeah.
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Brian Kilmeade
If you can show that no one's been hit, I don't think in three or four days. And then if show the damage has been done, perhaps they would be able to insure it. Let's talk about the World Cup. You're gonna be covering it Saturday and Sunday. You're gonna be out there. You've been covering it for the last three and a half weeks. And you grew up playing soccer.
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Jonathan Hunt
I did.
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Brian Kilmeade
And how's the US done?
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Jonathan Hunt
US did very well early on. The capitulation against Belgium was terrible to see. They just did not come, I think, with their minds in the right place. So it's been great for US soccer. I wish they had gone at least one round further because I think that would have really made a big difference. And it was the mindset against Belgium. Two things a couple of the players said after that game. We all thought we were going to be going to LA tomorrow for the quarterfinals. If you're going into that game with that mindset that you've already run and won and you're on your way to LA, wrong mindset elite sport. So I think that was a problem. I also think they were affected a lot more than anyone will admit by the Baligan red card controversy. And I think in a way, it would have been better for the U.S. if that red card had stood because they had the moral high ground. Then they had the sense of injustice fueling the fire for them. Instead, with the red card, the suspension rescinded, it all flipped to Belgium, that moral high ground, and they ran on that fuel and they were determined to win. And I think that made a huge difference on the day.
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Brian Kilmeade
So do you think that we reevaluate youth soccer in this country? Everyone plays, but we don't achieve on the men's side, and they talked about setting up an academy system that would be free. Get the next day, get the young David next, young David Beckham. Pull them out, get them an academy, but don't charge the family.
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Jonathan Hunt
Right?
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Brian Kilmeade
We should have enough money to be able to do that.
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Jonathan Hunt
For sure. We should have enough money to be able to do that. And that is, you know, my. My daughters both played youth soccer. It's expensive. It's really expensive to do that. And as you keep moving up a level, so, yeah, they need to change the way it's run. And I think an academy that you take the kids in and if they've got the talent, you are not looking for money from the families is a great idea.
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Brian Kilmeade
So let's talk about the final. You have. You have Argentina looking for the first, be the first repeat World cup champion since 1962 against Spain, the European champions. Right away I feel like Spain goes in the favorite. Do you?
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Jonathan Hunt
I did. Spain would be my favorite. I. I picked Spain before the tournament began to win it all. I wavered a little bit when France playing so well, but yeah, I think Spain has enough. They win. Won't do the stupid substitutions and backing off that England did in the semifinal against Argentina. I think they've got enough. They play beautiful soccer. They know how to keep the ball. They will have a plan for keeping Messi off the ball. But I say Spain without 100% conviction, because any team that has Messi, as they've shown again and again in this World cup, you give them six minutes at the end and they're behind and they can still win.
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Brian Kilmeade
What is your takeaway, Jonathan Hunt of why Cape Verde gave him such a hard time and why Egypt almost beat him?
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Jonathan Hunt
Because I don't think Argentina are a great team. They're a very good team. I don't think they are a great team until Messi decides it's time to be a great team. So if he decides that in the final on Sunday, they have every chance of winning if Spain can come up with a plan to close him down, I do not believe the rest of the Argentinian players around him have the ability to do it without Messi functioning at the highest level.
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Brian Kilmeade
And now Spain had this vaunted defense that many people thought wouldn't be as strong, but it has been as strong.
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Jonathan Hunt
Well, one goal they've conceded in the entire World cup so far. So they've been incredible. Their midfield, Rodri, I think, is probably the best midfielder playing in international soccer right now. So they're great. And then you. We still are waiting for Lamine Yamal, 19 years old, the Messi, to be in a way to fire on all cylinders. If he does that. Spain, I think could probably be on stock.
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Brian Kilmeade
And right now you're going to get three o' clock in the afternoon. The pregame starts at 11:00am Eastern Time. We'll be out. You. I'll be out there for Fox and Friends and you'll be out there all day and of course doing the recap at night. But you got to feel like the ratings are going to be through the roof.
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Jonathan Hunt
Oh, I'm sure they will. I mean, it's a marquee matchup, like you say, reigning world champions against the current champions of Europe. It's the game. I think that if anybody thought about what do we want at the end, that's the game. You would have chosen. It's going to be box office and the ratings have already been through the roof for so many games. Fox Sports has done an incredible job in their coverage. Rebecca Lowe, my fellow English person, has been incredible. I think Zlatan, Alexi and Thierry, all amazing. Thierry, I think is going to go somewhere else at the end of this is my prediction.
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Brian Kilmeade
What do you mean?
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Jonathan Hunt
I think Thierry might be the next manager for France.
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Brian Kilmeade
Really?
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Jonathan Hunt
You heard it here first.
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Brian Kilmeade
Without any coaching experience.
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Jonathan Hunt
He has some coaching experience and he just has, I think, the best soccer brain out there right now. And I think if he's not, then France are missing an opportunity. I think he would be a great national team manager.
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Brian Kilmeade
So if you look for a coach to out coach another coach, you would think the teacher would out would out coach the student. And Scalani was a student. He said as soon as he was done playing, he went to Spain to a coaching academy and his coach was Luis del Fuente. Is that how you say it?
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J.D. Vance
Yep.
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Brian Kilmeade
So that was his coach.
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Jonathan Hunt
Yeah.
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Brian Kilmeade
And they've been friends ever since. I know, Think about that. What are the chances?
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Jonathan Hunt
I know, it's great. What are the chances of so many things here that, you know, what are the chances of Messi having given a bath to a zero year old? So there's this photo out there. It was taken in 2007. There was a UNICEF charity shoot. They were looking for babies in the Barcelona area. Lamina Mal's mom put him up for that. He got the job sitting in a bath and a 20 year old Messi is giving him a bath. It's a weird photo to have chosen anyway. But that, that full circle moment, they had no idea that Lumino Mal was going to become a prodigiously talented soccer player when he was, I think he was five months old at the time and.
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Brian Kilmeade
Right. I don't think they'll reenact it. I don't think they'll react.
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Jonathan Hunt
Let's hope not.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, that would be, that would be troublesome. We'll see what happens. And lastly, this will be Messi's last World cup game.
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Zlatan Ibrahimovic
Correct.
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Jonathan Hunt
You've got it. He's 39 years old, so you've got to think this is his last World cup game. And you know, while I, while I would like Spain to win because Argentina knocked out England, I, I, you could not begrudge Messi another World cup if he does win it.
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Brian Kilmeade
44. Are you kidding?
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Jonathan Hunt
Yeah.
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Brian Kilmeade
I, I mean, that would be crazy.
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Jonathan Hunt
It would be crazy. I mean, the, the dude is Showing no signs of slowing down in this World Cup. He's amazing.
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Brian Kilmeade
I know it is. And the other thing, the last twist would be he. Where did he star most of his career?
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Jonathan Hunt
Yes.
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Brian Kilmeade
Barcelona.
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Zlatan Ibrahimovic
Yeah.
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Brian Kilmeade
So people of Spain love the guy.
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J.D. Vance
Yeah.
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Jonathan Hunt
It's hard not to love him.
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Brian Kilmeade
Right. I mean, he seems like a good person.
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Jonathan Hunt
Yeah, that's. And, you know, that's the difference. Ronaldo from Portugal has always been in that conversation of the best of all time. But you. I think you have to put personality in there and character. Messi is such a good character.
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Brian Kilmeade
So at the end of the game, we saw Bellingham, the. One of the best players in the world, kind of lose his mind a little bit. Could you describe what, you know, has happened?
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Jonathan Hunt
Yeah.
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Brian Kilmeade
After England lost.
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Jonathan Hunt
Bellingham is a great guy, but he does have a short fuse. And there are a couple of the. There was. That was a tough game. Argentina were going in hard throughout the game, and then some of the Argentina players were taunting the English players towards the end of it. Bellingham is not a guy who takes kindly to that. He whacked one of the. One of the Argentinian players who'd been celebrating in their faces around the back of the head. Bellingham needs to tone it down a little bit. Let his. Let his actions do the talking on the field.
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Brian Kilmeade
One of the words I heard, he went up to Messi and says, what is it like to be taken care of by the higher ups? And Ronaldo is better player than you.
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Jonathan Hunt
Yeah, well, that's.
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Brian Kilmeade
I mean, come on.
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Jonathan Hunt
Both of those things are stupid. I think there's all this conspiracy theory about FIFA wants Messi to win again. And, you know, no, Messi is a genius. He turned that England game on his own. Nobody in FIFA, no referees were influencing that. And, yeah, Bellingham needs to grow up a little.
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Brian Kilmeade
Right. The cross, it wasn't the goal. It was. He went outside and crossed the ball after it hit the post on his
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Jonathan Hunt
right foot, which is not his favorite foot. I think it was the most perfect cross you could ever see. Also, England had put on basically 11 defenders, and they left a man unmarked in the box. What are they thinking?
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Brian Kilmeade
And you were saying, too, that tied at one one, if one into overtime, you have no forwards left.
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Jonathan Hunt
Right. So what do you think it was? It was. It was the most stupid decisions by Thomas Tuchel, but he's German, I think, and ultimately wanted England to lose.
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Brian Kilmeade
Jonathan, see you out there on Sunday. We'll watch you covered. Your weekend cannot wait. Thanks so much. Back in a moment.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yes. Punish political opponents, no. They're trying to straighten up the school system by giving everyone choice. That's Randy Weingarten, a true vile individual whose results for this collective education of the country has gone out of her way to, to grow the union and hurt the students. It's a remarkable dichotomy. You only think consistent about anything she touches is that inner city kids will pay the price. And with lower grades, I mean, if you look at math, there's about 32% that are reading. When it comes to reading and math on grade level, it's crazy in 4th and 8th and 12th grade. That's why everyone wants to be in a charter school. That's why when you get into a charter school, if you're a working class parent, especially single parent, you feel like you hit the lottery because it gets you out of the public school system that she is ruined through putting the union first. But it's Donald Trump that's a barbarian, really, that wants to bring back education, that wants to give power to the states to change education for the better and give kids a school Choice. Take that $8,000 and you pick the school you want to go to. That makes everybody better.
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General Jack Keane
For Iran, the straits for Moses is a strategic asset. No matter what happens here, they will continue to want to take it back from us because it's number one. They don't have a nuclear power capability. They don't. They're not even close to developing a weapon. Now this is their number one strategic asset. It gives them leverage over the Gulf states in a region and they truly want to have an element of control here. And they are willing to fight us for it. And we have got to take it away from them and prevent them from ever getting it back under their control again.
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Brian Kilmeade
General Jack Keane with me on FOX and Friends an hour ago. And he says this is Operation Freedom that stopped in 36 hours because the Saudis didn't want us using their bases. They were nervous about the retaliation. And now he said, screw that, we're going back. You saw that we tried to talk and you saw the results. I don't know the inner workings. That story will come out soon, I imagine. So now we're in day six of extreme and strategic bombing in Iran. Joining us now is Kian Taj Bakish. He's a visiting professor of international relations at nyu. Iranian American scholar and former political prisoner released as part of the 2015 Iran nuclear deal and author of the Iran Crisis Notebook. And you could see that on substack. Kian, how do you feel about the six day strategic hit to take back the straight up Hormuz? Is it working?
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Kian Taj Bakish
Well, good morning, Brian, and thank you so much for inviting me on your show. Well, I, you know, as I don't have up to date obviously military intelligence to be able to assess whether it's going to meet its final objectives. But the first thing I can say as a civilian and as a expert on Iranian and US Foreign policy is that for American interests, it was the right thing to do. That is to say it was clearly the MOU that was signed in June was not to the advantage of the United States. It was a, let's say, some kind of Hail Mary. I mean, I've written in my X.com post, I do refer to it as a disastrous document. I think it was a misstep. And I think that President Trump is trying to now trying to address or redress that misstep because whatever goodwill the United States extended, either naively or not naively during that MOU was not reciprocated by the Iranian regime. And so there really is no option for US Strategic interests to continue the pressure both kinetically and economically and across the whole military options like cyber and other kinds of psychological and perhaps even support to Iranians inside the regime.
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Brian Kilmeade
I think you told us that, Keon, and I thought so, too. But you're the expert. You live there. You were in prison there. Essentially you were.
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Kian Taj Bakish
Yes.
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Brian Kilmeade
So I couldn't believe how bad the MOU was. I thought, okay, maybe in the end if it ends up good, we're not going to remember what the MOU was. But they're allowed to trade oil right away for 60 days. They begin to set operations to take over the strait. I could easily have read it that way. Even though the American intention was they said not to write it that way. So J.D. vance was asked to defend it. And tell me what you think of this cut 15.
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J.D. Vance
And then can I just say one other thing about this? Because there are people, you know, you see Mike Pence, who's sort of a super hawk, my predecessor, who say this. There are people, you know, who are super hawkish in the American system who have attacked the deal and frankly in some ways have tried to derail the deal. And what I always say to those people is, what is your proposal? What is your actual argument?
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Brian Kilmeade
So I wanted you to take him on. So he was defending his mou. So what do you say, Keon?
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Kian Taj Bakish
Yeah, well, look, I think there really is no defense of the mou. It was a complete misunderstanding of the Iranians. I mean, Brian, I think we talked about this earlier. Listen, and I wrote about it in my substack, Day One, in which the Iranians, I mean, I'm not nitpicking here when I know the Iranian mindset when it comes to negotiations. When the Iranians asked the US to change the location of the talks that ended up in Oman, I said to myself, it's over. When the Americans accepted that, I said it was over. What the Iranians were doing was setting the parameters. They were testing J.D. vance and his team about how far they could manipulate him and push him. And it was in my view, and I warned this in public. I mean, I'm not a senior official with. I don't have the ear of the officials. But if anyone had asked me, I said, please do not. And I think I may have even said this on your show, Brian, you do not send the second most powerful politician in the world who represents the entire American people. You don't send him to meet a fourth level Iranian politician in Islamabad where he has been drawn, you know, why Islamabad? It was decided by the Iranians. Why Pakistan? Because the Iranians knew that the Pakistanis were against Israel, that the Pakistanis would support them. Look, the Pakistanis have supported Iranian nuclear program. They gave them the secrets. The Khan Q Network. Years ago, it was a Pakistani rogue scientist that gave Iranians nuclear secrets.
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Brian Kilmeade
A. Q. Khan.
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Kian Taj Bakish
Yes, that's right. That's right, A Q. Khan. And they were in touch with the North Koreans and then the Pakistanis. So the very acceptance of the Vice President to even go along with the Iranians in Changing the location. And then even more embarrassing, and I warned this, Brian over again, is that we should never accept. This is undignified for the great superpower of the United States. We should not accept a childish arrangement where the Iranians say, we will not meet you face to face in public. And it'll be like you're in this room and I'm in this room and we send little notes to each other. All of this, Brian, was an attempt by the Iranians to see how far they could push around the American delegation. And what they saw was the Americans went all the way, they changed it. And then there was this other indignity. Remember the first night that they were supposed to go to Switzerland? You know, J.D. vance, our vice president, was sort of on the tarmac. And then the Iranians said, well, you know what, we're not coming. And that he had to say, well, I don't know, maybe I'll just hang around on the tarmac until the, you know, until the Iranians let me know when it's good to come. We should be setting the parameters. We should be setting the location. We should say, we will not meet with anyone except in public and face to face. What are we? We are untouchable. We are the American. So I think the whole thing was a disaster from the beginning. And then the actual content of it was even more shocking. And I think that it came from the fact that unfortunately, that delegation led by J.D. vance was inexperienced and also naive and did not have good advice. And then unfortunately, in this very disturbing, I think, conversation with Josh Rogan, I mean, there are two things about that. First of all, to peddle anti Israel, typical, anti, almost anti Semitic conspiracy theories about well funded secret groups that are trying to undo my mou.
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Brian Kilmeade
No, by the way, you're quoting him, Kian, you're quoting.
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Kian Taj Bakish
Yes, I'm quoting him. And then what I wrote in X.com was not about the content. I said, My goodness, Mr. Vice President, take responsibility. He said. And I quoted him. And he said, and I quoted this exactly in my X.com post, what used to be called Twitter. I said, you know, what he said was this. He said, what really bothers me is when American politicians allow themselves to be influenced by foreign forces. And I pointed out, very simply, I said, Come on, Mr. Vice President, can you hear what you're saying? If you allow someone to influence you, be a man and take responsibility. Own it. You don't have to do it. In President Trump's first term, the Israeli Prime Minister and his own inner circle including people like Ambassador Bolton, who writes about this in his memoir. They went to President Trump and they said, I think we should launch regime change and military operations against Iran. And President Trump said, no, I don't agree with that. And then in his second term, he. He was open to it. That is to say, it is the US President's responsibility in the end to decide what advice, what influence he's going to allow to influence him and to shape his decisions. It's our decisions. We are the superpower. And so I was just very disturbed by the entire approach and the lack of. And the lack of ability to take responsibility and to say that, okay, we were essentially played by the MOU and it was going to unravel. And it did unravel.
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Jonathan Hunt
Right.
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Brian Kilmeade
And I could say, you know, there's a misinterpretation on rule number five and number 14. That's not the way we. And you could say that. But the bottom line is they left open the management of the strait to Oman and Iran after the 60 days. And they weren't even waiting 60 days. They were shooting at chips for not listening to him right away. So I want you to hear what General Keene said, and I thought this was conventional wisdom, but I love your perspective of going inside the Iranian mindset. This is what cut 11.
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General Jack Keane
I've never bought the fact that there's that much of a division. The guy that was ahead of the political side of his gala buff, look it. His best friend in life is Qasem, Soldier of money. They joined the IRGC together. They became generals together. He then moved to the diplomatic side and moved away from the military side of the irgc. Kasamani went on to fame, obviously, and became. Established a professional relationship and a personal one with the Ayatollah and nobody in between. And he ran, obviously, the entire foreign policy instrument of supporting the proxies. I believe these guys are much more on the same page than people think. They are committed to what Iran has always stood for.
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Brian Kilmeade
So when people say, I'm talking to the foreign Minister, I'm talking to the speaker, much more moderate than the irgc, which is led by Fahiti. I think that's why we're. And they're dealing with him as if they're the good guys and the bad guys are the irgc, the General Keane does not buy it. He thinks they're speaking from the same hymn book.
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Kian Taj Bakish
Brian, I cannot believe we're falling for the same play that the Iranian regime has been using for 25 years. I've been Writing about this, I've been talking about that I've stood, I have been in many meetings with people like Golibouff, the previous foreign minister, the deputy Minister, the irgc. When I was in prison and being interrogated, I was interrogated many hours by very senior. I couldn't see them because I was blindfolded and facing a wall or sometimes I think I once was, possibly, I can't prove it, but I think I was interrogated either by Ghassem Soleimani's deputy who was sat behind a one way mirror. And he wanted to know, and he wanted to ask me who in the White House and the CIA and all those things I was in touch with. And I said, you don't really believe that I'm a member of the CIA, do you? And he looked, I heard a silence. And then the person who was sitting next to him that I could see by the wall, he said, look, actually we don't believe you're a member of the CIA because if you had been, we would have killed you already. And he was absolutely serious, he said, you would be dead. And so I cannot believe that this play is still going on. And a lot of it has to do Brian, with unfortunately, I wrote a very long critique of these so called Iran experts who I have referred to uncharitably as the useful idiots of the Iran think tank world. They're the ones in Washington that pedal this distinction between hardliners and things over and over again. And I cannot believe that we're still falling for it. Look, look, I'll tell you one simple thing. I told this on national TV and no one seemed to take this seriously at the time. When Vaz went to Islamabad, I said, where is the photograph? There was no evidence up to this day, Brian, I, you know, it's like a scoop, but it, I, I'm a scientist, I'm a political scientist. I look for evidence. Where was the photograph of Vance and Gollybuff in the same room, let alone shaking hands? There wasn't. Now I'm not being a conspiracy theorist, what I'm saying is that two things are possible. One is actually they never met in person. Second, second, if they did meet in person, why on earth would the American delegation not, you know, agree to keep that photograph hidden? And the reason is because of a very simple rule that unfortunately American policymakers who have unfortunately not enough knowledge about the complicated psychology of Iranians and the Middle East. Look, Brian, in the Middle east, what politicians say to you in private, in English is meaningless. It's only what they say in their own language publicly that is meaningful.
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Brian Kilmeade
So interesting. That's exact opposite of what you would think.
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Kian Taj Bakish
Well, so listen, that's why the Americans who don't have experience get caught out. It's exactly the opposite of the way political culture works in Iran. In the US Politicians lie in public and then off the record, they'll tell you the truth. It's exactly the opposite in Iran. And Vance fell for this. He talked about side agreements, gentlemen's agreements. This was just nonsense. I could have told him, please waste your time. Don't buy that.
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Brian Kilmeade
It's unbelievable. Keon, you're 100% right, Keon. Taj Bakish, visiting professor at international relations at nyu. And of course you were held political prisoner as part of the 2015 Iran nuclear deal. You were able to get out and author of the Crisis Notebook on Substack. Keanu was great to talk to you. Hopefully have good news to talk about soon. This is Brian Kilmeade show, giving you
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Brian Kilmeade (Radio Show Intro/Outro)
everything you need to know. You're with Brian Kilmeade, The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmeade.
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Caroline Levitt
We look forward to the final match on Sunday and I know the president looks forward to attending, but I think the world saw that this president and this country is able to put on the greatest show in sports in the world. And we are a kind people, we are hardworking people and we have the best country on the planet.
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Brian Kilmeade
People just seem to love it too. And $20 billion later they're saying, you know what, this World cup has been a huge success. And I'm sure Mexico and Canada did great too. I mean, look at, we were all worried about the cartels, the other, you know, in Mexico and you should be. And then in Canada, I didn't hear any buzz about it, but I'm not in Canada, they did great and the Canadian team did well. They got knocked out in the same round as we did using an American coach. But I would also add that when you look overall, we got to take that money and you gotta grow the game. And I think we gotta find a way to get that to youth soccer, getting some inner city fields built and start going beyond that. They also have a major academy in Atlanta and I think that could be a great place for kids to develop.
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Brian Kilmeade (Radio Show Intro/Outro)
From the FOX News radio studios in midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmeade,
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Brian Kilmeade
hey, so glad you're there. It's a lot going on. The president's going to be in New York City today. He's going to go to Trump Tower and kick off the final weekend of the World cup, which he brought here along with FIFA said, okay, run it. It's been better than anyone thought. I think that Andrew Giuliani deserves a lot of credit for that, too. And all the venue operators and FIFA knows how to run things. Let's be honest. Whatever you want to say about him cost too much. He thought the tickets were too expensive. They like to control. Too often people say there's corruption around it. I haven't seen it. This time around, I think the biggest controversy is gonna be the var and how you use videotape replay, but that's for a different time. Shannon Bream standing by. Tommy Lahren's gonna be with us at the bottom of the hour. So let's bring in Shannon now. Shannon, will you for one, be sad when the World cup comes to an end? Because I know your husband's a big soccer guy, 100%.
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Shannon Bream
And listen, I was not a huge soccer fan. Please forgive me. I know it is the center. Um, but the World cup has definitely won me over. I mean, the excitement. I got to go to one of the matches. I mean, it's just I am, you know, not soccer's number one fan, but I've definitely been moved into the I will watch this moving forward column now tonight.
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Brian Kilmeade
So it's going to come to an end on Sunday. You're going to be doing your show from there.
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Shannon Bream
I'm not doing my show from there, but we are going to check in with Jonathan Hunt, who will be there. We hope the weather improves for you guys a little bit up there and that people get to have just an amazing blast of a time.
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Alan Rothenberg
Good.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah. Jonathan Hunt was very, you know, he was saying, I got this network spot coming up. I go, what network? And he said, fox. And I said, do you know the person? And she says, shannon Bream. And I said, I know Shannon Bream. He did not believe me that I know Shannon Bream.
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Shannon Bream
Listen, I don't know if you should brag about that. Count that as a plus or a minus. I mean, not everybody's going to put that in the win column for you.
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Brian Kilmeade
It's a plus. But I'll be at that game, too, doing some coverage on Fox and Friends. It's a cable outfit.
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Shannon Bream
I've heard of it.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yes. And then hopefully we'll see a good game at 3 o' clock in the afternoon. How nice of it to get this Game over with early, so we don't have to stay up late at night. For people who do morning shows, I
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Shannon Bream
mean, you get up at 2:30 and I think that it's awesome. Or maybe earlier than that, two o', clock, I don't know. But I think it's fantastic that you have such an influence on FIFA that you were able to get the game in the afternoon.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, and I got a red card
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Shannon Bream
than the rest of the country for doing that.
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Brian Kilmeade
And I got a red card reverse. That really blew up my face. That really didn't work out too good, but we'll see how that that goes.
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Shannon Bream
I have often given you red cards.
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Brian Kilmeade
Right. Which is you sit me out for two days, which comes off my personal time, which doesn't work.
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Shannon Bream
Well, listen, then you're doing 10 less jobs than the normal 50 you do every week.
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Brian Kilmeade
So let's talk about what's happening with Iran. I love this military plan we're putting together to stop talking to Iran. I found the MOU was a train wreck, and I feel as though the only thing they understand is something no other president's done, and that is systematically, physically, militarily, open the strait. That's when their process is doing. But by the time you hop on the air on Sunday and me Sunday night, are we going to see the Houthi rebels trying to close the Red Sea?
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Shannon Bream
Yeah, that's a great question. Because obviously it seems like the concentrated strikes that we're doing right now are aimed at cutting off the IRGC's ability to restaff, resupply, because they're the holdup in this whole thing. Obviously, you control the strait. Iran has enormous leverage. But you're right. I mean, do the Houthis try to get in on this act and come at it from another angle? Because if you can control those, then their leverage is gone and the conversation is over.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah. I want you to hear what Jack Keane told me this morning about the Houthis getting involved. And he's almost saying, I dare you, let them try to do that, because he doesn't feel it's going to be profitable for them. Here's what he told me this morning, and that is cut number six.
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General Jack Keane
We came close to taking just about everything away from the Houthis once before. We didn't finish that campaign because they were willing to do what they were willing to stop interfering with the Red Sea and the Suez Canal, which, Bam. Andab leads to it. And they know full well what's coming if they attempt to do this. And it would likely bring the Israelis back into this and major combat operations again. So that's their choice to make, certainly. But we can deal with that if they execute.
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Brian Kilmeade
So he's saying don't panic if it happens now, immediately, the price, a barrel of oil could double. But he thinks we could just wipe them out because we almost did the last time. Now think about it. Why aren't the Houthis involved already? What do they have to lose? If they felt impervious, they would have been rocking everybody. There's got to be a reason.
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Shannon Bream
Well, and the thing is, this has gone on for decades, this funding that flows into Iran or allowing them to evade sanctions in some cases, you know, waivers, those kinds of things. Where does this money go? To all of their proxies. And that just means that they have built a network across the region and beyond. I mean, they have the ability to strike other places too, that is on their team, that is going to be backing them and doing whatever they have to to try to keep them intact moving forward. But it's because of decades of money in infrastructure that has flowed to these proxies. That means we're not just cleaning up the problem with Iran, it's all of these other offshoots from Iran.
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Brian Kilmeade
I want you to hear what the Iranian minister military spokesperson said yesterday. Cut 13.
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Kian Taj Bakish
And in no way will we allow
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Brian Kilmeade
the United States as a foreign and
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Howie Kurtz
extra regional country to interfere in the Strait of Hormuz. This is Iran's invaluable red line.
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Brian Kilmeade
It might be more valuable than a nuclear weapon. And guess what? We're interfering in the Strait of Hormuz. We've already introduced three shit, turned around three ships and took out one. We're telling them they can't trade anymore. Yesterday we took out one of their so called ghost fleet. So we are sending this message. And I think that at first you thought Trump should explain this to everyone, and now I think it's to his vantage. He knows the war is not popular, he thinks it's necessary. I agree with him, but so he thought, I'm gonna lowball it, I'm just gonna do my thing, I'm not gonna talk about it. And I think that's, that's smart. Just judging by how he wants is over with soon. But he's gotta turn up the heat in order to finish it off.
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Shannon Bream
First of all, were you surprised that the Iranian guy's English was so good?
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Brian Kilmeade
I was. Some people think he's a translator.
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Shannon Bream
Some people do. And some people believe that. Listen, the fact that is I think he's tried to do the diplomatic thing. The problem is that even when we were trying actively, before any of the kinetic action began months ago, to do the diplomatic thing, they weren't even willing to come to the table about things like their ballistic missiles, which we now know can reach all these European capitals and go much farther than we thought. So at some point, you have to ask yourself the question, what is the point of diplomacy with them? They're not honest. They're probably not gonna stick to these agreements. And I do think you're right. The president's gotten to this point where, listen, this is the show of force. The total destruction is the only thing that they understand. This has been 47 years of yelling, death to America and death to Israel. Maybe it's time for change in strategy.
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Brian Kilmeade
Well, the Iraqi militias sympathetic to Iran, sponsored by Iran, have put a $10 million bounty on the President's head. We know they have posters in there, downtown in Tehran, which has no water, but they have a poster, the president casket. And now we're really turning up the heat. I think they're trying to kill. I think they put somebody else on their kill list. Might be. I forgot who it was right now, but not important. But, I mean, they're not backing down on their rhetoric and what they want to do. But I also think it's interesting that we're not just doing it financ. We're not just doing it militarily. We're doing it financially. Victoria Coates, talk about what the Treasury Secretary is doing, cut 12. I think that economic piece that you mentioned, that's why what's happening with Iraq is so important. Iraq was their safety valve, as was Dubai. That's all getting cut off. Secretary Besson is going after all of those sort of luxuries of Iran, connecting into the international financial network through its partners and allies in the earth, through its partners in the region. That's now all going away. And so what we see, it's not just going to be a game here of days and weeks, but what we see in Iran over the next, what we might say year, year and a half, might be very similar to what we saw at the end of the Soviet Union. So let's keep an eye on that. What do you think?
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Shannon Bream
Yeah, it's a critical piece of the puzzle. And the sad thing is that we know it affects the people of Iran. And the message is constantly, listen, we're not about that. We want to free you from this theocratic dictatorship nightmare that you're living in. But these sanctions often hurt real people before they really start to hurt the people at the top. But the minute you give waivers and the minute you take your foot off the gas on that, it is the same story over and over again with them rearming, reconfiguring, propping up their proxies, an endless cycle that you gotta go on all fronts. And it seems like this administration is willing to do that.
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Brian Kilmeade
So who do you have on Sunday?
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Shannon Bream
So we've got bipartisan senators joining us to talk about all this stuff. We've got Katie Britt and Jeanne Shaheen. There are a lot of places on foreign policy where they do overlap. And they're working on this Russian sanctions bill that was to be Lindsey Graham's legacy at this point. So we'll talk with them about where the potential off ramps are, how this thing ends. We've also got Congressman Mike McCaul, who's just been in Ukraine and was ordered a special medal by President Zelensky. You know, is he gonna be kind of the Zelensky whisperer in the interim while we figure out who comes next and kind of that special role that Lindsey Graham was playing?
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, we had Mike McCall on last weekend from Kiev, and we had to readjust the interview because then we found out Senator Graham passed away, which is just stunning. I thought the. Did you think the sanctions bill was coming up this week? Is it gonna come up next week?
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Shannon Bream
I think it's probably next week. And, you know, there's been talk about whether Iran gets added into that mix. And, you know, everything is so difficult to get done through the Hill. And I think that they really want to get this thing done in a bipartisan way that would honor what Graham was trying to do. So I think that they're going to thread that needle really carefully probably in the next few days.
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Brian Kilmeade
All right, Shannon Bream, thanks so much. We're going to be watching. Yes. Sunday night, but first, I'm going to be covering the World cup. And you're going to have that on your show. Right.
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Shannon Bream
Are you wearing a soccer outfit?
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Brian Kilmeade
Do you think I should. Do you think I should pretend like I'm in the game?
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Shannon Bream
But are you. Who's your team?
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Brian Kilmeade
My team lost in the round of 16. I'm this pro American guy you might have met.
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Shannon Bream
I mean, I'm saying now that you're down to these two. Can you pick or is it too.
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Brian Kilmeade
I like, see Argentina win, but Spain is the better team.
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Shannon Bream
Okay. All right. Well, if you consider Argentina the underdog, I don't know that they can be. They're so good. Then that's who I'll go with because I like an upset. I like a surprise.
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Brian Kilmeade
All right, listen, Channing, good luck reintroducing yourself to your husband because I know he's been MIA for three weeks. Go get him.
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Shannon Bream
Bye.
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Brian Kilmeade
All right, listen, Shannon, correct? Yes, we are. Just a quick note on One Nation on Sunday night. I'm gonna have Mike Rowe on. I want to talk about these data centers that New York has now banned for at least a year. Really? Okay. I mean, you could have some demands, like they have their own power source, like to make sure they don't abuse the water table. But why ban them? You stop plumbers, pipe fitters and electricians from getting jobs and all these other blue collar jobs. And also, if you want to be part of an enterprising economy, why not be part of the next industrial revolution? But other states are having problems. I think 40% of the new data centers are now under protest. So I want to get the reality on that. I also want to talk about the latest with Iran, with the chairman of Foreign relations over in the House side, Brian Mast. I think many people would think he'd be a great secretary of state too. I want to talk about the plan that's put in place militarily and if he thinks it'll be effective as an army guy. We're also going to have Brian Johnson on. Brian Johnson is a guy that wants to live forever, not die. And he found out he has a term, terminal illness. He's doing all these extraordinary experiments for longevity. We'll talk to him about that. You might have heard of him. I think you have. I'm pretty sure you have, anyway. And then Tommy Lahren is going to be joining us, too, as well as Rob Blagojevich. Talk about the corruption in Chicago, what he went through and what's happening right now. He also was, was let out of prison, got pardoned by Donald Trump. He's a Democrat. You listen to Brian Kilme show. Back in a moment.
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Howie Kurtz
Moment.
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Brian Kilmeade (Radio Show Intro/Outro)
Real talk, real guests, real insight, where curiosity meets conversation. It's the Brian Kill Me Show. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Kill Meade Mean this horse.
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Brian Kilmeade
As we continue to do that.
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Kian Taj Bakish
You make that official. You make that part of our platform. That's my red line in the Democratic Party. And now you look at the number of people. I'm not surprised by that vote. But for, for me, that's honestly what I've expected.
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Brian Kilmeade
So that's what he's talking about. 103 or 102 Democrats in the House, not Hakeem Jeffries, but his whip voted to defund Israel. Now they're in the minority, but they could be in the majority come, you know, win the election in November and take over in January. And that's what they're going to try to do. And of course the president have to wheel and deal and I don't know what's going to be happening there. But that's why the prime minister came out of Israel and said we have to learn to manufacture our own weapons. I don't see it lasting in America much longer. Now Republicans are on board. Fetterman says if this continues, I'm going to do something extreme.
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Kian Taj Bakish
Listen, my long term concern has been with, with the Democratic Party, as I am a member of that, is that our party is going to back away and turn their back to Israel. If our party ever becomes and just make it official as the anti Israel party, you know, that's when I would leave because that's been a moral clarity for me.
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Brian Kilmeade
Since when do you walk around, you know how much horrible, how many horrible things have happened over a number of years in Syria? When's the last time you saw a protest about human rights in Syria and the brutality of Assad? When's the last time you saw any problems about how Christians were being persecuted in Nigeria or the, or some of the unrest in the killing of 40,000 innocent civilians over in Iran? And you walk down the street and you see people tell, you know, protesting because these horrible things going on in these countries, they don't happen. But for some reason the Palestinian situation, when they were given Gaza and part of the west bank, if you asked Bill Clinton, the Oslo accords gave west bank and Gaza to the Iranians, excuse me, to the Palestinians with a land bridge connecting both. Yasser Arafat wouldn't sign off on it. And then that became a terror haven. And then the eruption, the attack on October 7th that cost over a thousand lives. So that's how we got here. Now we have people saying, oh, I feel bad for the Palestinians. What is your connection to fully understanding the region? My answer is you have no connection there. But now you want to blame Israel and it's rippling through colleges. Hakeem Jeffries did not vote yet to defund Israel, but you could see how it will change. Cut 21. In the Dear colleague letter that I sent to the caucus, I laid out
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Howie Kurtz
the position that I believe we as
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Brian Kilmeade
House Democrats will take as we move
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Howie Kurtz
forward anchored in several different principles, including
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Brian Kilmeade
our support for Israel's right to exist
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Howie Kurtz
as a Jewish and democratic state and homeland for the Jewish people. And at the same time pressing the
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Brian Kilmeade
urgent need to establish an independent Palestinian state that allows the Palestinian people to
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Howie Kurtz
live with dignity, respect and self determination.
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Brian Kilmeade
And that needs to be dealt with urgently. Has he asked the Palestinian people? Because they want one state and that's without Israel. They don't want the two state solution. Hamas is still in control. They're in the process of being X'd out. It'd be great to get some support after the hostage deal was done and some follow through with other people besides Jared and Steve Witkoff who can't do everything and shouldn't be asked to do everything. But this is the line that they believe will get people elected. Remember Rahm Emanuel went there last week in order to say, Israel, we're going to cut you off. And then Ro Khanna went there and had an incident at the West Bank. Looks totally manufactured, would not coordinate with the government. Went there and was confronted by settlers. Cut 22 is Ro Khanna and what he wants the new democratic policy to be. Cut 22. I am voting yes on the Massie amendment to zero out all aid to Israel. This includes zero aid for offensive or defensive weapons. I just don't see how the United States can support aid to a state that has committed genocide. And frankly, I do not see how we can continue to support a state that detains Americans and an American congressman like me. Really like you. Total theater. He's ridiculous, a chameleon. One thing about Bernie Sanders is not a chameleon. One thing about Nancy Pelosi, she is more practical, but she'll change. But this guy is ridiculous. He's from Silicon Valley, understands the need to be a capitalist and now is a socialist. He's appearing with Hassan Piker, a despicable podcaster who loves the Cuban government and hates ours. Wanted Rick Scott killed. And then he goes over there with theatrically says he's detained by west bank settlers. What a joke. And now he says you don't replenish the Iron Dome, just let rockets destroy central Israel. Sickening. If you guys get if any left wing Democrats listening to us right now, if you give this guy a vote or think for a second that he's presidential material, knowing he stands for nothing except for trying to get elected, you are really going to destroy the country. All right, when we come back, Tomi Lahren joins us.
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Jonathan Hunt
He's.
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Brian Kilmeade
She's getting set to Host, co host the big weekend show from 5 to 8 Saturday and Sunday. And we got One Nation Sunday at 10pm and don't forget, coming up on October 17th, I'll be doing with the United States tour in Westbury Music Fair right in Long island, as well as Rent Bank, New Jersey the day before on the 16th. Brian kilme.com for tickets.
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Information. You want truth, you demand. This is the Brian Kilmeade Show.
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Tomi Lahren
We're envisioning something more like a prime minister which is the real head of state or the real executive power in most other developed countries. I don't like using that term, you know, willy nilly. But if we're talking about what actually is democratic and what actually is common sense, it makes a lot more sense to have that, especially when we know that the president has had the ability to ever since Iraq actually like the ability to arrogate to itself this power that is essentially like, yeah, we can have a paramilitary force that only responds to the president. That's fascism.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yes. Thank you, Michelle Michaela Branigan, she is the chairman of the DSA National Political Education Committee. And she said, would it be great to have a prime minister instead of a president? We also know part of the policy is no Senate. That would be interesting. And of course, many of these others say no prisons. It's gonna be a great country. I just don't know what country they like to lead. With me right now is Tommy Lehre and co host of the big weekend show. It's on five days, Saturday and Sunday. Also host of Outkicks, Tomi Lahren is fearless, which I know is true. So Tommy, is it amazing to you that the DSA is not only proud of their impact, now they're outlining their whole agenda. They also wanted to fund the military.
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Tomi Lahren
Yeah, well, when you were playing that, I thought that was Kamala because it was a bunch of word salad and speaking in a circle, I was trying to decipher what she was actually trying to say there. And it took a minute because it wasn't. It was as clear as mud as they say. I don't really think they know what their platform is. I think they just want to watch everything burn.
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Brian Kilmeade
Right.
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Tomi Lahren
I don't think they love this country. I think they would love to see this country fail. Some of them are well intentioned morons, I'm sure, but a lot of them just hate everything America stands for and they want to rebuild it in the image of a third world nation. And it's up to us to prevent them from doing so they're well on their way though, here in New York City and elsewhere.
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Brian Kilmeade
So do you think that Mondami is the beginning or the end?
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Tomi Lahren
Oh, it's the beginning. It's the beginning because it has to play out. And I'm one of those people who, maybe because I don't live here full time, so sorry to you, but I'm one of those people that I think we have to let it play out in places like this, let this be the testing ground for it here, maybe Los Angeles, Minneapolis. Let them try this experiment, don't bail them out. And I'm sorry for everybody, all the good people that have to be here, but it's gotta play out because if you go in and you rescue the cities that are turning towards the socialism and the communism, then no one actually understands that it's a failure, it's a failed strategy. So you gotta let it fail.
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Brian Kilmeade
So my fear is this is the beginning and the goal is to have federal power and take these ridiculous ideas and those suddenly federal ide is. And that's what worries me so. The 20 somethings evidently not happy. The economy doesn't give them as much opportunity. I could think and look at every generation. There's always some type of struggle, something going on, a war, a pandemic, a recession. Louisiana Purchase caused a recession. We shouldn't have done it. Double the size of the country. Was that an, you know, did we blame anybody for that?
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Tomi Lahren
This irritates me to no end when I hear that young people are, you know, disenfranchised by this economy. Is that partially true? Perhaps? Yes, things are expensive. I totally get that. Rent in New York City is incredibly expensive. But when you see those same people who say, well, I can't afford a house and you see them buying every day an iced coffee from Starbucks, you see them taking fancy vacations where they document all their travels and their, you know, their pto, they're going to use all their pto. They're going to go to Greece, they're going to go to Mykonos, they're going to go all these places they want to go to Erewhon and buy a $12 tonic water. They sit on their cell phone and make TikTok videos and they say, but you know what? It's not fair to me because I can't afford house. I don't know about you, Brian, but my parents, when they were just starting out, they had nothing. They had to work hard, they had to save money, they didn't go out to eat, they didn't splurge on vacations, they saved money so they could afford a house. So these young people, and many of them are millennials, most of them are Gen Z saying, but we can't afford things. No, you can't afford everything that you want.
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Brian Kilmeade
Right. Yet at one point. But here's also thing, not earning it and then blaming others and taking their money. Are you encouraged by the fact Washington State, for example, has a wealth tax tax they put on the ballot. Rescind the wealth tax. There's enough signatures, enough support. Now they get to vote to get rid of it because they already saw that they lost, they lost. Starbucks gone, going to Tennessee, Tennessee. And now others are lining up to go. They just don't want to do it. They don't want to pay an extra 9% because they're successful as companies and as individuals. And now they put on the ballot to rescind it. I love that.
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Tomi Lahren
I love it. Will it be successful? I don't know. You have to hope that the fair minded people outnumber the people who just think, oh, oh yes, the rich should pay more. How many voters are out there who maybe don't work, maybe work very little, maybe would love to be taken care of. How many of those people are voting? How many of those people are encouraged to register to vote and then vote right? You have to hope that the people who actually have a stake in the economy and having a good paying job from a lot of these companies that are leaving, you have to hope that they outnumber the people who want something for free in those places. Do they? I guess we'll see. But I don't have a lot of optimism.
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Brian Kilmeade
So the President's speech last night, he mentioned when they got rid of transgenderism or trans for everybody. There's a little of exchange with a doctor that took place on Capitol Hill this week. It was flat out astounding. It was Representative Mary Miller, a Republican from Illinois, asking Dr. Sam Hargood. You would think he's chancellor at the University of California San Francisco, head of the medical school. Very simple medical question as a non biological woman ever had a baby? A transgender person can. That's not a biological woman has a non biological woman ever had a baby.
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Howie Kurtz
I, I would reiterate.
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Jonathan Hunt
Ridiculous.
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Brian Kilmeade
We take care of transgender.
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General Jack Keane
Okay.
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Brian Kilmeade
This went on. I mean we take, we won't answer the question.
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Tomi Lahren
They know the answer though, Brian. They just don't want to upset the very, very vocal minority of who have this as their bread and butter issue. Transgender for all men can Be women. Women can be men, cut off body parts at age 6. They don't want to offend those people. They know good and well there are two genders. They know good and well that men can't get pregnant and have babies and this, that, and the other. But they will not offend that very vocal minority, but especially in California, because a lot of their fundraising and a lot of their beneficiaries depend on that. That. That religious issue to them, which is lgbtq, that's their religion.
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Brian Kilmeade
But is it still. Didn't Trump give them an off ramp by telling him, we're going to war with DEI and we're pulling back from this and transgenderism. They see it as a 9010 issue. I thought that this was going to be the green light for scientists, people of the medical profession to take the
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Tomi Lahren
off ramp now, because this, for them is a religion. They are never gonna let it go. Woke never went away. It went dormant for a while, but you're gonna see it come roaring back.
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Shannon Bream
They're.
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Tomi Lahren
They're capitalizing on maybe some discontent with Trump and the economy, and they're going to bring back all the woke. It's not like they're just bringing in the socialism stuff. All the woke is going to come along with it, which makes no sense when you have someone like a Mamdani who is queers for Palestine, but also Islam rules the day. That doesn't really make sense. It doesn't align. But for them, it aligns if it leads to power and control.
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Brian Kilmeade
So it was interesting. Tuesday was the last semifinal game, and guess where the mayor of New York City spent it. Rikers island cut 34 people who are incarcerated here on Rikers, that they too
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Jonathan Hunt
are a part of New York City. The World cup has been a magical
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Brian Kilmeade
moment for the entire city. These are New Yorkers, and they will be New Yorkers when they get out of Rikers. They're New Yorkers Today. I wanted to make sure that we
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Jonathan Hunt
can celebrate this moment together.
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Brian Kilmeade
Your thoughts about him doing that?
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Tomi Lahren
You know, I wonder about all the. The people that are impacted by the folks at Rikers and whatever they did, you know, the way Mom Donnie talks about, it's just. They just ended up there. Right. They didn't do anything to end up
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Brian Kilmeade
in a wrong turn.
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Tomi Lahren
Yeah, they just. They were in the wrong place at the wrong time and all, shucks, they ended up there. And so he must comfort them. What about the families of the people that they murdered, raped, assaulted, Right, robbed, whatever they did. What about those families and their comfort in the World Cup.
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General Jack Keane
Right.
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Tomi Lahren
But this is what he does over and over. They want these people among us. I guess at least they're honest about it. They want them all out. And he wants, I mean, he wants to close it down. He wants them all out on the street. There is not a single person that these far left wackos want, want to keep in custody. They want them all out.
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Brian Kilmeade
One just got elected on that platform.
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Jonathan Hunt
Yeah.
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Brian Kilmeade
So I don't even know what to say about that. When you talked before about where do kids go if they want to buy a house, you know, in places like North Dakota is one of the fastest growing cities, especially for young people. You know why? They make it possible to afford a house. They make you get more for your money. So you could do that. If you're, if your job is portable and you're starting in your career, there are places you can do these things.
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Tomi Lahren
Well, and I'm from South Dakota and you know, we just have a budget surplus, I think of about $70 million.
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Zlatan Ibrahimovic
Right.
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Tomi Lahren
So South Dakota can do it, North Dakota can do it. Wyoming, Montana, all these other places. A lot of other states that can do it that offer a lot. I would say my home state of Tennessee right now, Nashville. I mean, we're courting Paramount. Come to Tennessee. Starbucks came to Tennessee. I mean, everything is moving to the places where money is treated best. And that brings opportunity.
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Brian Kilmeade
So we're going to watch you from five date on Saturday, Sunday. But first, next in 15 minutes. You're doing what?
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Tomi Lahren
I'm going down down numbers.
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Brian Kilmeade
And what's going to be your lead story? Do you even know yet or you prepare for anything?
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Tomi Lahren
We are prepared for anything and everything we might be talking about. Listen, we're not supposed to say, I've been told we're not supposed to say diarrhea, but we're going to be talking about it.
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Brian Kilmeade
That's a good tease.
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Tomi Lahren
But we will not be talking about it using the term diarrhea. So I have to say it as many times here.
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Brian Kilmeade
Right.
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Tomi Lahren
So that I don't say it down there.
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Brian Kilmeade
I. If you wanted to hold off on that, that you could have.
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Tomi Lahren
Well, listen, they said no using that word there. So I figured with Brian Kilmeade, it's safe, we can go. We can say the D word.
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Brian Kilmeade
Check out Tommy all weekend long and on out kick Tommy, thanks so much. You could say whatever you want here. Unlike that other show.
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Brian Kilmeade (Radio Show Intro/Outro)
Illuminating, intriguing, inculcating.
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Brian Kilmeade
I know some of these work.
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Brian Kilmeade (Radio Show Intro/Outro)
It's Brian Kilme. From his mouth to your ears. It's Brian Kilmeade.
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Brian Kilmeade
Would you be for expanding the number of teams in box?
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Alan Rothenberg
Absolutely. As it was proven this time. There was a lot of criticism beforehand that countries that weren't up to it were going to be coming in well. Most of them really played very well, played competitively, scared the heck out of some of the big teams. But Most importantly, if FIFA's mission is to spread the sport around the world, you now have additional countries that have a stake in it, if you will, and also will have some financial benefit from it to grow the sport. And 64 in some ways is cleaner because you'll get rid of the third place teams going on into the knockout round. So I'm all for it.
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Brian Kilmeade
So he's for it. It's more money too. But I will say this, more games to win in order to get to the finals. And in theory, a lot of guys get banged up in those games. It can really wear you out as opposed to a shorter trip. But I'm fine with that. I'm curious to see what's going to happen. I think they're in four different countries next time too. So they're spreading out the wealth and we'll see how the time shift will be. I hope Fox is able to retain it. That's my fear. Because now the streamers come in with the big money, they start blowing everybody out. I hope people can. I hope Fox finds it feasible, feasibly reasonable to be able to afford it. About the matchup itself. Argentina against Spain. Spain comes in. European champions. Argentina World cup champions. And Argentina, I think comes in as the underdog. Zlatan Ibrahimovic is one of the fantastic stars to emerge from the commentator desk. A great player in his day. He knows what it's like to play against Argentina. He brought that perspective yesterday. We thought we'd bring it back. Cut 32 to.
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Zlatan Ibrahimovic
I played and I played against and with. So you, you. They play with a lot of emotion. They're passionate people, players. And when you play against them, you feel them, they're aggressive, they provocate you. You gotta keep cool. And they always give 100%. It's loyal, is a loyal player, players. And when you have them with you, you know they're gonna do their job. You know they're gonna fight for you and fight for themselves. So it's not easy to play against them. But my thing was when you smash me, I'm going to smash your back.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, he's a physical player and he's very cocky and that came across on. On Camera. Him and Alexi Laos do great and Terry Henri has been fantastic. Used to be on the Red Bulls but he also played for Barcelona. Dan Dakich who's a general sports guy who's really getting into soccer on outcome kick he talked about the fact is people are going to bet on this game and people are betting. It has a lot to do with I think the ratings. It's fine. I think between betting the sports betting and pot I think are the two most negative things to happen fundamentally in our country. Legalizing both pervasively over the last 25 years. Here's Dan Dakich on what he expects in the final cut. 31. Hey, I'm not betting against Messi.
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Howie Kurtz
You better play the full 90 whatever
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Brian Kilmeade
plus minutes because Messi, you mentioned it in the introduction man.
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Alan Rothenberg
Messi.
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Brian Kilmeade
Messi shows up late. Got a chance. Argentina does to be the third team ever to go back to back. I'm taking Messi. Spain is terrific though.
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General Jack Keane
Spain's defense is unprecedented.
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Brian Kilmeade
You mentioned the ball control. They don't turn it over. Yeah. So their defense only let up one goal but they did get tied by Cape Verde early on and we'll, we'll see what happens if Argentina does something haven't done lately and that score early and force Spain to go forward a little bit in order to go for a goal. That leaves a vulnerability in the counterattack but I overall believe that. I hope Argentina finds a way to win. I think Spain wins. When they took the. I saw France play and they look so good. I was in a giant stadium there for the game and they win one handily against Croatia and it was just toying with them and they got some world class players there and then for France to lose two nothing. And I watched that game and they, I thought they would dominate it systematically, unsensationally but consistently by Spain they win 2 nothing in the semi final. Now there's going to be a. I know we don't do this. We used to do this all the time. Ncaa. There's a third place game. It's going to be England against England against, against France and that'll be a great game. So see if England can rehab themselves. It means a lot of money. Now the winning team gets $50 million. So I imagine they probably get maybe 10 million each or 15 million each on the third place game. So there's incentive to win that game. I know everyone will be watching. That'll be big money news but not as big at 3 o' clock the next day. So that'll be Important. So we'll see what happens in terms of what the President's doing today. President's going to be giving up away the trophy on the field. Mr. President, some advice, Give the trophy up, but get out. Because what happens is the team rallies around the trophy and then you get enveloped in it. Not good. So the FIFA president, president should give it to the FIFA president or vice versa, who gives it to the captain and then get out of the there. That's key. Caroline Levitt knows this is going to be fun for the President. Cut 29.
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Caroline Levitt
We look forward to the final match on Sunday and I know the President looks forward to attending, but I think the world saw that this president and this country is able to put on the greatest show in sports in the world. And we are a kind people, we are hardworking people and we have the best country on the planet.
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Brian Kilmeade
And I think people love it. I don't think anyone's going to host better. I think the stadiums get 70,000 people and they're all over the place. People, people want to actually come here and they want to play. So I'll be out there. And my prediction again, Spain's going to win, but Argentina, I'm pulling for them because I'd like them to end up on top. My hope is that when a 39 year old Lionel Messi comes here at 35 and then takes the field at 39 and they said you're going back to Major League Soccer, your game's going to drop because the quality of play, your opponents and teammates are going to drop. That's why you never go to America. And that's wrong. What happened is David Beckham went over, I think went over to Real Madrid after leaving Los Angeles, played a high level and then you have Messi come back and have the fantastic tournament he had at the age of 39 years old. It shows you you can come to America. It might not be the Premier League yet, but your game does not have to fall. What was also caution to me too is, is don't wait. Don't want too many international superstars because the goal is really to grow some American players. I think 22 Major League Soccer players were in this tournament. Hopefully there'll be a lot more. Meanwhile, quick note. Coming up on One Nation on Sunday night, I got, I got Mike Rowe is going to be with us. Leading off, I'm going to talk to Brian Mast about what the way forward is when it comes to Iran. I love the military plan that we have together now. I think it's been remarkably effective. And I think it's going to be a major break breakthrough soon. I want to find out what he thinks about that. Brian Johnson is a guy who wants to live forever, never, never die. He has a terminal illness. How's it going to affect his longevity experiments? And of course, Tommy Lahren is going to bring us the media moments that really matter. And Rob Blagojevich, why Donald Trump got him out of prison.