The Democratic Party’s Socialist Civil War

Summary

Podcast Summary: Brian Kilmeade Show

Episode: The Democratic Party’s Socialist Civil War
Date: June 25, 2026
Host: Brian Kilmeade
Notable Guests: Carly Shimkus, Jeff Lax, Dennis Ross, Josh Raskin, Mike Lawler, Chip Roy, Marco Rubio

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Overview

This episode centers on the ongoing internal turmoil within the Democratic Party, particularly focusing on the increasing influence and electoral victories of Democratic Socialists and far-left candidates. The conversation explores the implications for party leadership, the broader American political landscape, and the 2028 presidential race. The show features lively debate, pointed commentary, and a sense of urgency about the direction of the Democratic Party, with frequent analogies to broader cultural and geopolitical developments, including U.S.-Iran relations and the Israel-Hamas conflict. Additional segments include updates on U.S. soccer and a brief detour into late-night television commentary.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Democratic Party’s Divisive Leftward Shift

• Recent Primary Results:
  Multiple guests referenced the New York primaries as key evidence of a “civil war” within the Democratic Party, highlighting the victories of several DSA (Democratic Socialists of America) candidates over establishment figures, including those backed by Hakeem Jeffries and Nancy Pelosi.

  • Carly Shimkus: “You can't hide it. The Dems are in a civil war and New York's primary results are just the latest proof. The socialists know it and it's time for the progressives to admit it or fight for their party back.” [02:20, 76:17]
  • Josh Raskin: "This could define the battle for the nomination, the presidential nomination in 2028. And Democratic leaders have been asleep at the wheel in confronting the rise of the DSA, which...are radical beyond belief." [40:54]
  • Mike Lawler: “There's no question that the socialists had a very big night...they are on the march and Mamdani is leading the charge. Frankly, Jefferies and Schumer look pathetic and weak.” [77:06]

• Nature of Victorious Candidates:
  The discussion repeatedly likened current left-wing Democratic candidates to figures far outside the mainstream—a point underscored by quotes and anecdotes about anti-American and anti-Israel rhetoric.

  • Jeff Lax: “She [Darieliza Avila Chevalier] said, ‘We are Westerners fighting for the total eradication of Western civilization.’ That’s what she wants. That's who these people are.” [57:37]
  • Josh Raskin: “The people who have these heinous pro terrorism, anti Israel views also have a lot of other views, like get rid of prisons, let's not give criminal penalties to murderers...” [45:32]

• Mainstream Leaders' Response:
  There is criticism that established Democratic leaders are refusing to confront or counter the rising socialist influence within their ranks.

  • Carly Shimkus: “Why don't you say, listen, I don't agree with all this stuff? ... Why would we elect three people that I wouldn't want to campaign with, let alone support?” [10:39]
  • Josh Raskin: “The problem has been that they're not willing to confront the extremists. ... But because they want to abolish the police and...incarceration, those issues are going to translate down to the party at large.” [47:33]
  • Letitia James (via Shimkus): “[Some socialists]...don’t understand the politics of New York City...are relatively new to the body politics.” [47:04]

2. Antisemitism, Israel, & Islamism on the Left

• Rise of Antisemitic Sentiment:
  The episode highlights how antisemitic and anti-Israel sentiment – often overlapping with pro-Islamist stances – have become prevalent among the far-left wing ascending within the party.

  • Josh Raskin, quoting John Fetterman: “Anti Israel, anti American, anti Western civilization. Why am I the only Democrat in the US Senate that refuses to excuse this or defend any of these self identified communists?” [48:47]

• Party Leadership on the Issue:

  • Carly Shimkus: “If you've ever read Malcolm Gladwell, the tipping point was reached a long time ago, Brian. The Democratic Party is a socialist party. There's no way to stop that now.” [70:15]
  • Jeff Lax: “These people are not coming after Jews, they're coming after Western culture. That's the truth… The Jews are very easy to get everyone to agree, to hate…” [59:53]

• Jewish Candidates Targeted:

  • Carly Shimkus on Dan Goldman: “He lost this election, got trounced because he's Jewish, basically, and hasn't condemned Israel, even though he condemns Netanyahu.” [64:50]
  • Dan Goldman (quoted): “It is clearly veering from the opposition to what another government is doing into outright anti Semitism, which is on the rise, something I certainly felt during this campaign…” [65:40]

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3. National Politics & Broader Implications

• Impact on the 2028 Presidential Race:

  • Josh Raskin: “This could define the battle for the nomination, the presidential nomination in 2028.” [40:54]
  • Wall Street Journal Editorial (paraphrased): “The DSA is a growing force and has already captured the mayor's office. Bernie Sanders is closer to achieving the dream of capturing the Democratic Party for the left through a younger generation.” [48:47]

• Effect in Swing Districts:

  • Concern that far-left victories in deep-blue areas will affect the Democratic brand nationwide and complicate races for moderates.
  • Carly Shimkus: “[Republicans] have to be able to define people and say the difference because people in battleground district know being extreme left to right is probably not going to be successful.” [82:54]

• Republican Response:

  • The episode often frames the leftward shift as an electoral gift to Republicans, making clear distinctions on law enforcement, border security, taxation, and American values.
  • Mike Lawler: “It shouldn't be that hard. I mean, frankly, one of the only people that has pushed back against this is Josh Gottheimer from New Jersey. But this is craziness. It's not that hard to say. I don't support socialism and I don't agree with their perspective.” [79:15]
  • Chip Roy: “You have crazy radical socialists that are seizing control of the Democratic Party. And Brian, they admit they're not even really Democrats. They're just using the Democratic Party as the vehicle.” [79:15]

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4. Iran, Oil, and Middle East Diplomacy

• Iran Negotiations & Sanctions Relief:
  An extended segment focused on U.S.-Iran diplomacy, oil sanctions, the Strait of Hormuz, and the role of Marco Rubio and Dennis Ross in shaping and critiquing American strategic posture in the Gulf.
  • Marco Rubio: “If you are charging money to use the straits, we won't support it, we won't, we won't tolerate it, we won't allow it.” [01:42, 39:39]
  • Dennis Ross: “You can say no one's going to be imposing tolls on the straits, but.. there's already talk of a reconciliation summit between the Gulf states and Iran…” [20:49]
  • Carly Shimkus summarizing concern: “If they come out with an agreement that doesn't address the proxies, that allows total sanction relief and allows them to toll the straight Ambassador, you're 100% right. That's a disaster.” [25:13]

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5. U.S. Soccer and Cultural Asides

• Recurring updates and commentary on the U.S. Men's National Team World Cup performance, serving as a metaphor for national unity and hope.

  • Alexi Lalas: “I think it matters tremendously for the mentality, the psyche and most importantly the momentum for this team that has grabbed a hold of the imagination of America.” [01:10, repeated segments]

• Brief, light-hearted digressions touched on late night TV, celebrity culture, and even pool maintenance, but the primary thread was the political conversation.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “You can't hide it. The Dems are in a civil war and New York's primary results are just the latest proof.”

  • Carly Shimkus, [02:20]

• “These are the Chevalier said last night on national tv she's basically a communist. She was asked if she was a communist and did not deny it. I mean, these are radical beyond belief.”

  • Josh Raskin, [40:54]

• “You have crazy radical socialists that are seizing control of the Democratic Party...they admit they're not even really Democrats. They're just using the Democratic Party as the vehicle.”

  • Mike Lawler, [79:15]

• “What is the Democratic Party if not its voters? And what we saw yesterday evening were Democrats across the city turning out and voting for a new kind of politics.”

  • Zoran Mamdani, [02:08, 40:00, 56:13, 76:03]

• “If they come out with an agreement that doesn't address the proxies, that allows total sanction relief and allows them to toll the Strait...that's a disaster.”

  • Carly Shimkus, [25:13]

• “We are Westerners fighting for the total eradication of Western civilization. That's what she wants. That's who these people are.”

  • Jeff Lax quoting Darieliza Avila Chevalier, [57:37]

• “It is a hatred of America. It is a hatred of Western democracy. It is a hatred of capitalism. They dabble in Marxist theory and the oppressed versus the oppressor and that's what this is rooted in. And they fundamentally are trying to reshape America.”

  • Mike Lawler, [81:43]

• “The Democratic Party is a socialist party. There's no way to stop that now. The question is, what do the Republicans do about it?”

  • Carly Shimkus, [70:15]

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Important Segment Timestamps

| Segment | Description | Timestamp | |---------|-------------|-----------| | Socialist Surge in Democratic Primaries | NY results, impacts, leadership reactions | 02:08–06:53; 40:12–47:33; 56:13–63:32; 76:03–89:17 | | Antisemitism within Far Left | Personal reactions, implications | 45:15–48:47; 57:37–66:48 | | Iran & Oil Diplomacy | U.S. policy, Gulf States, Rubio/Ross | 16:05–33:28 | | Republican Response | Mike Lawler, Chip Roy on GOP strategy | 77:06–89:43; 94:21–109:04 | | U.S. Soccer & Cultural Commentary | Team updates, cultural asides | 01:10–01:28; 35:42–37:34; 39:11–39:39; 74:34–75:38; 109:34–110:07 |

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Tone and Language

• The episode maintained an urgent, sometimes combative tone—frequently using vivid metaphors (civil war, cancer, parasites) for the Democratic Party struggle.
• Panelists and guests often spoke with a sense of warning or foreboding, punctuated by humor and friendly banter, especially when switching to sports or late night media commentary.
• Language was direct, pointed, and, at times, incendiary (e.g., “radical beyond belief,” “anti-American sentiment,” “parasites”).

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Summary Takeaways

1. The Democratic Party is facing a growing internal battle as socialists and far-left candidates win major primaries, often at the expense of establishment-backed incumbents.
2. Antisemitism and anti-Israel sentiment are deeply intertwined with the furthest-left elements, raising alarms not only for Jewish Democrats but also for party moderates and strategists.
3. Republican strategists view these developments as both alarming and advantageous—gifts in battleground districts and in framing national debates.
4. Leadership from both parties are challenged to respond clearly, with moderates encouraged (and criticized for failing) to draw distinctions from their party’s extremes.
5. Major policy implications—especially regarding Middle East diplomacy and border security—are seen as at stake depending on which “side” wins the Democratic Party’s civil war.
6. All of this is framed within a larger cultural battle for “the soul of America,” often contrasted with lighter moments about sports and entertainment.

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For Further Listening

• Mid-episode segments with Ambassador Dennis Ross (19:25–35:20) for in-depth Middle East analysis.
• The Mike Lawler interview (76:17–89:43) for a battleground Republican perspective on Democratic Party evolution.
• Jeff Lax’s segment (56:55–70:33) for sharp criticism of antisemitism and far-left rhetoric inside the Democratic Party.

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Listeners interested in U.S. political trends, party dynamics, intra-party conflicts, and their intersection with foreign and cultural policy debates will find this episode both provocative and highly informative.

Transcript

[Brian Kilmeade]

From the Fox News radio studios in midtown Manhattan it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmeade.

[Josh Raskin]

Hi everyone.

[Carly Shimkus]

Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kilmeade Show. So glad you're there. This hour I'm going to be joined by Carly Shimkus who is coming in and closing the door behind her. I just know how she operates, don't ask me how. And Dennis Ross at the bottom of the hour we had a major press conference with Secretary of State Marco Rubio. He gave a lot of direct answers who are moving the story forward. That just did. I mean he literally opened it up to the world press and talked. Would you say CARL if what 25

[Jeff Lax]

minutes over half hour?

[Carly Shimkus]

Yeah, over 30 minutes. So. And he just answered every question and essentially and I'll get to the bottom of it and we'll go over it with, with Carly. So we have a lot to discuss. President United States also opened up at 250 yesterday. So it was a really good speech. Was right to the point and of course it ended with YMCA like the founding fathers thought it would. So before we get to Carly, let's get to the big three.

[Alexi Lalas]

Number three, I think it matters tremendously for the mentality, the psyche and most importantly the momentum for this team that has grabbed a hold of the imagination of America to continue that, to continue to bring people into the tent, to continue to prove that they are worthy of our time.

[Carly Shimkus]

Yep, that is the great Alexi. Laos third and final group game for Team USA and their next next round opponent is all but set. I'll go over it. We preview and review what's going to happen tonight. And I'll be going to my second World cup game today.

[Marco Rubio]

Number two, I think we've been clear. You can call it a fee, you can call it a toll, call it whatever you want. If you are charging money to use the straights we won't support it, we won't, we won't tolerate it, we won't allow it. And I think there was unanimity in that room on that point.

[Carly Shimkus]

Marco Rubio. As I just mentioned, Iran talks have won one short term benefit. All is flowing, oil is flowing and prices are dropping. The question at what diplomatic and military cost?

[Zoran Mamdani]

Number one, I think what is the Democratic Party if not its voters? And what we saw yesterday evening were Democrats across the city turning out and voting for a new kind of politics.

[Carly Shimkus]

You can't hide it. The Dems are in a civil war and New York's primary results are just the latest proof the socialists know it and it's time for the progressives to admit it or fight for their party back. Well, you guys do it. It's not our fight, it's not my fight, it's not Crowley's fight. But you guys, we just witnessed a D.C. mayor's race that went to the socialists. We saw a socialist go in Seattle. We saw a socialist win in New York City. We saw a socialist win in Washington State. We're watching AOC come in. Six, I think it's six years ago when she beat Joe Crowley with, she joins with the squad. And they have these extremely anti Israel points of view and pro Islamist, I guess, inclusion gene in them. I don't understand how those two coincide, but let's just move on. And because of that, Mondami is becoming kingmaker and his godfather is Bernie Sanders. Now, you might not want them in your party, but you allowed them in your party, Carly. There's nothing short of a civil war going on right now. If I'm a Republican, I just, I point to what these three that won yesterday believe and tell me why they're wrong.

[Jeff Lax]

Yeah, just point to what they believe and then shut up. That's all you need to do is point out exactly what they're saying and use it against them. Because I do believe that a great majority of this country is shocked at a lot of their beliefs, especially the one woman who said, who posted a tweet saying that she didn't have a napkin so she wiped her hands with the American flag next to her and, you know, bleep America and on all this anti American sentiment. And now she's going to he is sitting member of Congress. I mean, these are not at all contested races. She is going to Congress and she's going to have a committee assignment. I think the big thing about this is a lot of people say, well, listen, it's New York City, it's blue. This is what happens in big cities. But you can make a real case that this does move the entire national conversation and the political landscape to the left. Because what happens now, because it does show that the establishment can't protect its own. And I think a lot of the energy is always around the most extremist point of view. The most extremist thing you could say is that a lot of those establishment Democrats in purple areas get scared. And then they go, okay, well, maybe I'll start to do a little bit of the socialist thing myself. So what does that do to the country? I mean, it divides us further. It moves part of the country further to the left. Will, is this a lasting thing? I don't think so. I also don't really think it has a lot to do with Zorma Dami. Yes, he campaigned for these three people. I think this is just a natural reaction to President Trump winning a second election. Election in a blue city. But I think that the impacts of this could be far reaching.

[Carly Shimkus]

But if you look at Donald Trump, he, you know, if Rush Limbaugh in his heyday ran for office, Mr. Conservative, you could say the inverse of conservatism is socialism. But you look at Donald Trump socially. I mean, a lot of conservatives are even the biggest supporters. Like, he's not a traditional conservative. You might not like Trump, but why is your answer somebody that couldn't. Why is it socialism? I know, like, Donald Trump is not a pure capitalist. He's right now, for example, what's he doing today, as Brian say to the oil and gas companies, bring those prices down. That's not what a capitalist usually wants to leave markets alone.

[Jeff Lax]

Bingo. Well, you are a sane individual, and that's why you see it the way you do. It has to do with the media, as a lot of media spin surrounding the president and what his goals are. I mean, look at the people who are.

[Carly Shimkus]

Well, it doesn't matter. But here's what I would say. I challenge you on if Hakeem Jeffries and madame combined to win this. But he went against Hakeem Jeffries. Nancy Pelosi was for Dan Goldman, who lost by double digits. He had won three terms prior. I'm not a fan, but he's not a socialist and he's not anti Israel. He's anti Netanyahu. That wasn't good enough. If you're Jewish, forget it. So these people are anti Semitic. Anti Israel obviously goes along with that.

[Jeff Lax]

The American.

[Carly Shimkus]

And they also want to abolish ice. Okay, join the club. I'm not joined in that club. But that's what these. Every Democrat says. But abolish prisons and let everybody in the border.

[Jeff Lax]

I know.

[Carly Shimkus]

Let everybody in. So if I'm a Democrat and I'm running for office in Pennsylvania, I say, by the way, I don't agree with anything they're saying, but where is that? Yeah, you have Letitia James come out and say, wait, socialists, if you hate the Democratic Party, don't blow it up. But that's after another election.

[Jeff Lax]

Bingo. Yeah, no, I actually, I agree with everything you just said. And every race is gonna be individualized, but you cannot discredit. And of course you're not that there is a real movement right now, you know, and it's interesting because it's taking. Yesterday was kind of a funny day because we spent the entire day talking about the rise of the socialist movement. I mean, that's not spin. It's really happening. And it's not just New York City, obviously, in Maine, too. What's going on in California with the mayoral race. And then at the end of the day, we had President Trump celebrating America 250 and the democracy that we all live in and embracing that. That was like the palate cleanser after a whole day of what is going on in terms of how far left can we go and how anti American can we be?

[Carly Shimkus]

I mean, it's pretty amazing. But it's a gift to Republicans because you'll just honestly say, do you want to abolish prisons? Do you want to abolish the border? Okay, why don't you take on the mayor? You kept your mouth shut before an election. Now, I was reading the New York Post today, if I'm to believe they're polling, only 7% of the registered Democrats came out to vote in this primary. And for people who say, what's the big deal? It's only a primary. Republicans have no shot.

[Jeff Lax]

Right.

[Carly Shimkus]

So they won. So these three, you came out and said the most horrific things about America. You know, I wipe my face with a flag. We're a genocidal nation. Hasan Piker is their mentor. And by the way, Ro Khanna goes on with him. He wants to run for president. So I just think that some of the people, some of the Democrats are horrified. Like Jared Moskowitz. Listen to what he said. He's in Florida. But listen, cut 16.

[Jared Moskowitz]

If they want to have a policy debate, right, we can have that policy debate. Like, I'm all for debating policies, and people don't have to agree with me on policies. They can have different positions. Right. And the voters get to make. The voters get to make those choices. But for me, what's going on is the movement has embraced a lot of anti Semites. And some of the people coming here have a history of anti Semitism having nothing to do with.

[Carly Shimkus]

With Israel.

[Jeff Lax]

Yeah. You know what? I think it's so true. And as you're playing the clip, I was reflecting on something that Vice President Vance said when he said that you would think that the reaction to Donald Trump winning the election is that, okay, Democrats, you know, as we talk amongst their themselves, we've gone too far to the left. But a lot of People, I think, look at that election and go, oh, no, that wasn't it. We actually need to go further. So there's just two different schools of thought. And what does that do to the midterms?

[Carly Shimkus]

And, you know, their other goal is to put one DSA member on the platform. When it comes to the primaries, they know they're gonna probably win the nomination, and AOC's the one. So if they can get up there and get their point of view out. You just keep throwing at people and you weaken them. Yeah, I'm used to. Oh, the socialists. The socialists. First. They didn't wanna say, I'm not a socialist, but I have some things that I want to. I want medication.

[Dara Liza]

No.

[Jeff Lax]

Grandfather's calling himself a communist, or at least he did at one time.

[Carly Shimkus]

Like openly in writing, in. So here's Monda, me, and then Jeffries Scalise, and then Van Jones cut tail.

[Zoran Mamdani]

It's time for working people to be back at the heart of our politics. These are the champions who will do it.

[Jared Moskowitz]

We're going to lose two good members in New York. The DSA has been increasing their power.

[Josh Raskin]

I think there probably are going to be lessons that can be learned.

[Carly Shimkus]

But no two districts are alike in

[Jeff Lax]

New York City, and certainly that's the

[Josh Raskin]

case across the country.

[Chip Roy]

The Kim Jeffries got destroyed last night

[Carly Shimkus]

in elections by his own Democrat voters

[Chip Roy]

in his backyard of New York. The roof is collapsing on the Democratic Party establishment tonight.

[Carly Shimkus]

So that's Fan Jones.

[Kate Connelly]

Yes.

[Jeff Lax]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Carly Shimkus]

So just like he has no problem, he doesn't run for office, but he has no problem calling Democrats out, called Joe Biden out. Why don't you say, listen, I don't agree with all this stuff.

[Dara Liza]

We.

[Carly Shimkus]

We just. We just opened up the border and we got crushed in an election.

[Jeff Lax]

I know.

[Carly Shimkus]

So why would we want to do that again? And why would we elect three people that I wouldn't want to campaign with, let alone support? Mondami says, no, I agree. I am the winner. I am the leader.

[Jeff Lax]

I wish that. And I don't know if this has ever happened, but I wish that Darielisa Avila Chevalier, she's the woman that we were talking about who said the wipe the hands thing.

[Carly Shimkus]

I probably can't say two of her three names, but go ahead.

[Jeff Lax]

I've listened to many clips of her saying it and people saying, I'm pretty confident that that's how it is. I wish that she would speak to somebody who lost a loved one to illegal immigrant crime. Because, of course, you. I mean, you always. It's never been about. Everybody understands why people want to come to this country. It's why we're celebrating our country right now. And you can be extremely sympathetic to all the people who cross the border. It is unsafe. It is why people have borders around their own homes and. And why people live in gated communities and why Mayor Mamdani has a gate around his Gracie Mansion. It's the same exact thing. And I wonder what that conversation would genuinely be like. And I don't know if that's ever happened. And what if it did? What. What if she engaged in that conversation? Would she walk away learning something? Would she change her opinion? I don't know, but I think it would be a productive thing to have.

[Carly Shimkus]

But I like the fact that she has to just say, I don't feel that way anymore. She looks at her past tweets and go, yeah, that's the way I used to feel.

[Jeff Lax]

I know that's.

[Carly Shimkus]

So here's Mundelli because he's Hakeem Jeffries went for two of the three lost. And now just keep in mind, if Jeffries becomes speaker and it's not a done deal, maybe you felt a year ago, it's a done deal. It's only a handful of seats. Republicans were in disarray. They couldn't even decide on their own. Speaker kicked Darrell McCarthy out, which was a huge mistake. As much as I like Mike Johnson, he didn't aspire. He had nothing to do with it. So Zoram Abdani says, I am the leader of the party. Hakeem Jeffries expects to be speaker. Now, you think that John Boehner had a hard time wrestling the Freedom Caucus, and then that Paul Ryan did a hard time. And I like the guys in the Freedom Caucus, people in the Freedom Caucus because they loved America. They just had a different idea fiscally and didn't want to give in at all. I thought they could have showed more flexibility. And that maybe is the reason why Jim Jordan didn't become speaker, because a lot of people in the mainstream thought, I remember when you wouldn't give me any votes. But he somewhat changed. Be more practical. I'll give you Chip Roy as an example. So tough. But then he goes, what's possible? This is what I want. But then what's possible? So Zobra. Mm. Donnie cut seven.

[Zoran Mamdani]

I appreciate the relationship that I have with Leader Jefferies, and it's one where we're united in looking to deliver for the people of the city. And as you heard from him, we have disagreements about endorsements and I think you mentioned a number of those candidates that I was proud to endorse and Nadia, Lisa Chevalier and Claire Valdez and Brad Lander. And also a, the end of the day, what we're looking to do is to deliver for the working people of New York City. And I think last night we heard from New Yorkers a hunger for exactly that kind of work being done here

[Carly Shimkus]

in our city by 7%.

[Jeff Lax]

Yeah, Daddy. Elisa, I should have said that. I think I, I am hopeful that this is a moment in time and not a permanent, lasting part of our country that's going to actually turn into like a European style of socialism. As the liberal party. I think this is a reaction to Donald Trump and really has very, I mean, Zoram Dami is the biggest winner of the week. Everybody's saying it's him, he's the kingmaker. This would have happened even if he wasn't campaigning for these people. This is very little to do with him. This is a absolute psychosis style reaction from people who dislike Donald Trump and going to the extreme.

[Carly Shimkus]

What about Espalad, Adrian Espalad, who is the Democrat, the Democratic Hispanic Caucus Caucus chair. I mean, you would think he's one of the, he's one of the linchpins to stop Donald Trump because he's trying to get the Hispanic vote back. He doesn't march in the Puerto Rican Day parade, does the mayor. And then he's out of Hispanic leader. When we're come back, I want to talk a little around with Carl Shimkus because is this your exit appearance until you give birth?

[Jeff Lax]

Well, I have, I have 20 more days. What did they say?

[Carly Shimkus]

Oh, 20 more days.

[Jeff Lax]

Yeah, I got a little bit, I

[Carly Shimkus]

was getting a little emotional. Back in a moment.

[Jeff Lax]

Okay.

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[Marco Rubio]

I think we've been clear. You can call it a fee, you can cut a toll, call it whatever you want. If you are charging money to use the straits. We won't support it, we won't, we won't tolerate it, we won't allow it. And I think there was unanimity in that room on that point.

[Carly Shimkus]

But they are setting up an infrastructure, Carly. I keep reading about it. No man is working with Iran to do it. So you could say they're saying things for domestic consumption. But at one point our delegation has to say you cannot toll, you cannot provide insurance for the. And not the 48 hours notice. Not going to happen. They want to prepare to charge tolls. This is what they're doing after 60 days.

[Jeff Lax]

Yeah. So the insurance thing is also interesting because I was reading about that earlier this week and reportedly what's happening right now is that Iran is, has set up an insurance payment system. But right now it's in place, but they're not charging anybody the insurance. Do you see what I mean?

Yeah.

[Carly Shimkus]

Because they said after 60 days.

[Jeff Lax]

Right. So I think that when President Trump post what he did on Truth Social about all of this, he was right. But if these reports are accurate, they're setting the foundation for future payments which obviously cannot happen and Trump will not allow it to. But that's, it's, it's a, that's a really big deal because that would be a really big moneymaker. And there's all these avenues that Gulf countries are trying to explore on how to get oil out of their area by diverting it away from the strait and into pipelines. But that's going to take a couple years to do.

[Carly Shimkus]

Here's Marco Rubio cut 36.

[Marco Rubio]

The President, the United States. If we can make a deal with Iran, that that's good for everybody. We want to do it. We're going to get every, we're going to give it every chance to succeed. But also to make the point that we're not going to do anything or agree to anything that they're not aware of, that our partners in the area are not aware of, that our partners in the area are not aligned with and that in any way could undermine their security and their stability. So to reassure them of these points, the same points we made in the GCC meeting.

[Carly Shimkus]

So was Oman there? Did they say we are doing it? Because I talked to somebody a couple of days ago and they said there's going to be a letter that Oman's putting out that they're not going to charge for the straight.

[Jeff Lax]

I haven't seen that letter yet. Yeah, yeah. I think that right now, the way that I'm viewing This is as a collective, so you can't. I understand that there's a lot of frustration on both sides about this memorandum of Understanding, but you also have to take what happened during the.

[Carly Shimkus]

I've almost forgotten about the mou. I was like, this doesn't really even matter anymore.

[Jeff Lax]

Right, Right, right. Yeah.

[Carly Shimkus]

So.

[Jeff Lax]

But Iran's leadership is decimated, so is their military. And that really matters as well.

[Carly Shimkus]

Right. Supreme Leader, too, Dennis Ross is next, but Carly Shimkiss is going to be. I'll miss you. That's all I could say.

[Jeff Lax]

Miss you too, Brian.

[Carly Shimkus]

See you tomorrow.

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[Brian Kilmeade]

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[Marco Rubio]

They want to get into a negotiation. We'll do a negotiation. If they make commitments at the negotiation,

[Dennis Ross]

they need to keep them.

[Marco Rubio]

If they don't keep them, the president has multiple options at his disposal. That includes sanctions and includes other things. So I think the President has been cleared. If we're going to get a deal, it has to be a real deal and it has to be a good deal. If Iran wants to make a good and real deal, the United States is open to that. If they're not, then of course the President has options. We want this to work out. We hope it works out. But if it doesn't, the president knows what his options are.

[Carly Shimkus]

You know, that was Marco Rubioft in Bahrain meeting with the Gulf, our allies, and he said I was going to do most of the time I want to be listening. I just want to hear what they think about what's going on right now because, you know, it shows me he's not really in the loop on purpose when purposefully whether it's the President's or his deal on what would the memorandum of understanding, which I don't even think we should bring up in detail anymore because I don't think it matters. It was enough to get them the talks and you could look at it as a reference to see where we started and where we ended. Joining us now is Ambassador Dennis Ross, William Davidson, distinguished fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, author of Statecraft. Ambassador, so I don't know if you had a chance to Hear the Secretary of State this morning, but he says, dude, nobody's going to. Nobody he's worried about the proxies said it flat out, including in Iraq, and nobody's tolling the strait. What do you think about where we're at right now?

[Dennis Ross]

Well, I'm worried for the following reason. You can say no one's going to be imposing tolls on the straits, but the Iranians are already talking with the Qataris, the Omanis. There's already talk of a reconciliation summit between the Gulf states and Iran. The discussions are clearly taking into account that Iran is going to have some kind of managerial role in the straits when this is over. The talk of a reconciliation summit is coming from those who feel that they there need to be some form of accommodation with Iranians. That doesn't bode very well. So that gives me some pause. I still am.

[Carly Shimkus]

Do you think there's going to be some accommodation on the Strait?

[Dennis Ross]

I think there's going to be some accommodation on the streets, yes. You can say there's no tolls, but look at the. I know, Brian, you said you don't want to talk about the mou, but the mou.

[Carly Shimkus]

No, I'm not saying I don't. I just don't know how you could talk about it. But I'm just saying I almost feel like I'm talking about a preseason, a preseason projection in the, in the, on in week six. I feel like what's. Who cares what street and Smith said about the upcoming football season? We're already in week six. That's what I mean. I'm not saying it doesn't matter.

[Dennis Ross]

So let me make two points, one related to it and one that just sort of raises a possibility on the Straits. The language in the MoU says no tolls for 60 days. And then after the 60 days, Rand will be talking with Oman of the Gulf literal states about administration and managerial services. So it's already. It establishes a basis for them to have a rule. And that's where I think some of these discussions are already beginning. But the second point, here's a larger question. Let's say the Iranians are willing to reach some kind of an agreement with us on the nuclear issue and nothing else. So we will then lift sanctions, at least some sanctions, right? I mean, we won't get them to do at least even part of what we're asking for in the nuclear issue unless they get some sanctions relief. By the way, that is the way the MoU is written. It basically the Iranians are saying we won't implement anything on the nuclear issue until we've seen what sanctions relief we're going to get. So that has to be spelled out. So let's say they do only the nuclear issue. And by the way, let's say half of it is shipped out and the other half is down blended, which of course they could purify and build back up to 20 or 60%. So already there's a significant relaxation of a kind of economic lifeline for them. Even though we will get nothing on the issue of missiles, nothing on the issue of proxies. So that's where we are right now. So let's take your analogy of the pre season, say, okay, we're now in the regular season and the Iranians basically create a proposition where they give us something. Not everything on nuclear issues, but it's. But it's then tied to significant sanctions relief without any movement on the other issues. That I think is very much a kind of replay of the JCPOA which focused only on the nuclear issue.

[Carly Shimkus]

Yeah, I mean, here's Marco Rubio cut 35.

[Marco Rubio]

Fees and tolls are the same thing to me. If you're paying someone to go there, I don't care if you call it a fee or a toll or a donation, it's a toll. That's how we're going to define it. That's international waterway. There isn't a nation on earth that supports having to pay money to go through the straits. And think about it this way, if you have, it's not even workable. Let's suppose that we went crazy and lost our minds completely and decided to agree to have a tolling or a fee mechanism. How would that work? It's not doable because what's the consequence for not paying? Let's say a ship says, well, I'm not going to pay the fee. It's not like a toll on a road. You don't get a ticket in the mail, they get shot at. You shoot at one ship, you sink one ship, no other ship is going to move. So that sort of system is not only unwise, it can't happen, it's not even workable. So you might as well abandon the fantasy now.

[Carly Shimkus]

So that's what I'm going with. So I hear you. And if they come out with an agreement that doesn't address the proxies, that allows total sanction relief and allows them to toll the straight Ambassador, you're 100% right. That's a disaster. I think it's a disaster. It really is. And Then if they have a $300 billion fund that they can use, and they'll say, well, they buy farm goods. Well, they'll just use other money to buy weapons that they would have normally

[Dennis Ross]

bought food for, of course.

[Carly Shimkus]

So if that's the situation, I have a problem with it.

[Chip Roy]

Look. What.

[Dennis Ross]

As I listened to the Secretary of State.

[Josh Raskin]

Yep.

[Dennis Ross]

I really hope that's what will guide us in these negotiations. To be honest, I. I wish he was in the negotiation.

[Carly Shimkus]

I know. That's what I said last week.

[Dennis Ross]

More confident.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Yeah.

[Carly Shimkus]

So I don't know what to believe. So one minute I say, okay, this is how I'm trying to get the facts. So I go, okay, this is what the facts are. This is what I think. And then I go, wait a second. I watched that press conference today, and I see the president yesterday, and I go, okay, why am I getting worked up? He says everything that I say, he says that they're not gonna. They're gonna stop funding proxies. Hezbollah has got to stand down. Israel has a right to defend them. So, okay, okay. Now I feel better about it. But if I go to the MOU, I read all 14 points, and Lindsay. And the vice president was not honest with us on Wednesday and Thursday, because Friday, when we got the 14 points, it's. It. What's in there is in there.

[Dennis Ross]

Absolutely. I mean, I heard. I heard him say that the nuclear. The enrichment will be destroyed. That's not there. You know, look, I think what you and I are both saying is the following. If, in fact, we're able to produce an outcome that really does change the character of what they can do in the future on the nuclear issue, limits the ballistic missile program, limits what they can do with proxies, ensures that there's no management on their part of the Straits of Hormuz, then I feel much better. But I'm looking already at the Gulf states who are beginning to make some moves which I think reflects their view that they don't have much of a choice. That's how they're reading the current situation.

[Carly Shimkus]

What do you mean? Can you give me an example?

[Dennis Ross]

Well, for example, there is discussion out here right now about a reconciliation summit with Iran. A reconciliation summit with Iran. Right now, that. That signals a certain readiness to be accommodating to the Iranians before they've changed any behaviors. They've changed no behaviors at this point. They've linked Lebanon to Hormos. They are announcing, by the way, you have the head of the Revolutionary Guard saying, any monies we get, we're going to use to rebuild our military capability. They're saying it explicitly. So at this point, what we're hearing from the Iranians suggests no change whatsoever. What we're hearing already from some of the Gulf states is they're looking for some means to sort of work out some new understandings with the Iranians. I don't object to new understandings with the Iranians. If on, on the Iranian side they change their behavior, they change their behavior, that's fine. What the vice president says about them turning a leaf, I'm all for that. But I want to see it right now. I see no indication of that.

[Carly Shimkus]

And by the way, I think we should take the frozen funds and rebuild our bases and replenish the families who have those taken hostage before and are suing the Iranian government for killing their loved ones. I also wouldn't take that. I take that money and get the $80 billion that we spent bombing them. I would unfreeze those funds and do that. But about the proxies, just so you know, I'm not rooting. I'm just, I'm blogging and listening. Here is cut 33. Marco Rubio on the proxies.

[Marco Rubio]

If you look at the MOU, it talks for peace in the region. It talks for no interference in the sovereignty or interest of independent countries, of sovereign countries. Well, that's what proxies are. They're interfering in the sovereignty of a country. When you're giving money, for example, to Hezbollah to act as a rival to the sovereign government of Lebanon, you're interfering in their politics. When you're sponsoring militias in Iraq, you're interfering in Iraq. When you're sponsoring, you know, Hamas or the Houthis or whoever it may be, you're interfering in the sovereignty of these countries so that it's covered. The MoU contemplates a conversation about these things because it's critical and it's important because ultimately you're not going to have peace and stability in this region as long as there are not non state actors operating within the boundaries and borders of sovereign countries and being funded by Iran.

[Carly Shimkus]

That's our leading diplomat and obviously feels very conversant with the issue. So what am I supposed to, what do you take away from that?

[Dennis Ross]

Everything he said is 100% right. The only thing that I don't quite agree with is I don't see that in the MoU. He made a reference. He's, I think there's a kind of generalization he's taking from a line on respecting the Territorial integrity that was actually related to Lebanon, but that was inserted by the. By the Iranians referring to the Israeli presence, not to the Hezbollah presence. But everything else he was saying is right. But is that going to be reflected in our negotiating position? Because it's not reflected in the mou.

[Carly Shimkus]

I hear you. I did not know Gulf states in this, this reapproachment with Iran. You're the first one telling me that. Are you in the region now?

[Dennis Ross]

I'm in Israel right now.

[Carly Shimkus]

All right.

[Jeff Lax]

I did not to be clear, Brian,

[Dennis Ross]

I just, I'll just look, I'll know there's a. They're talking about a reconciliation summit.

[Chip Roy]

Now.

[Dennis Ross]

Maybe that's not the policy yet. Maybe it's. Maybe it's being put out, you know, by Qatar and Oman and maybe doesn't speak for all the countries. But there we'll have to see. But this should be watched. It is an indication to me that there's even such discussion that there are those in the Gulf states who feel right now a need to find a way to accommodate the Iranians. That's not what we should be seeing right now if we want to see a different Middle East.

[Carly Shimkus]

I hear you. So Scott Besson was asked about the selling oil cut 39. There's some people wondering about the sanctions on Iranian oil. They haven't had that liberty to sell oil, oil on the open market without the sanctions for a long, long time. What do you say to people who are concerned that the Iranians are getting the benefits before they're coming, do with

[Josh Raskin]

what they're going to do?

[Jeff Lax]

A couple of things.

[Carly Shimkus]

Brett is one. The Iranians were always selling oil.

[Dennis Ross]

It was going to China, but at a discount.

[Carly Shimkus]

It is a carrot that we can always pull back. We want them to see what it

[Dennis Ross]

feels like not having the sanctions on,

[Josh Raskin]

and then we can always put them back on.

[Carly Shimkus]

That's what they're saying for 60 days you can sell. If you don't do what we tell you to do, they're going to go back on.

[Dennis Ross]

Okay, that's fine. But it's. They have, they haven't delivered very much yet. And this is clearly, as he put it, it's a carrot. You know, they were selling oil because they had to do it surreptitiously because they had to use ghost fleets. Now they don't have to use the ghost fleets at least for the 60 days now they can do it in dollar accounts so they no longer. It doesn't have to go. Doesn't have to be held in the country that's buying oil. It means that, you know, when they were selling oil before, it was usually at about a $30 discount. Well, that's a windfall for them. Okay? The hope, as he, as the Secretary of Treasury put it, was them seeing this benefit will be such that they'll want to change their behavior. By the way, that was exactly the logic of the Obama administration. There was a presumption, we will integrate them so much into the international economy, they will see how much they have to gain. They won't have an incentive to go back to those behaviors. Look, each these points is a legitimate hypothesis. And in a sense, the Obama administration, and now this administration wants to test that hypothesis. Okay, I don't object to testing hypotheses, but I want us to not create such a stake in the process ourselves that we come up with excuses for why we can't reverse the pathway that we're on. I'm a little uneasy about that.

[Carly Shimkus]

So I don't understand with the technical. And this is a legitimate question. It's not a presumptive question. So Witkoff does not know nuclear energy, and Jared Kushner couldn't possibly know what a scientist knows about nuclear energy. So they say the technical team is over there. Who are these people and what are their roles? And how much can really be done without the pressure from both sides, higher ups? I mean, when you sit down, I mean, it's very simple. I know one thing is simple. You can't downblend yourself and hold on to the uranium and you shouldn't be enriching at all. That's. The President said you can't enrich at all. So it's got to be taken out of the country. I don't care what country it goes to. So it's got to be taken out of the country.

[Dennis Ross]

Right.

[Carly Shimkus]

So we should agree on that. I mean, that you don't need a technical team for that.

[Dennis Ross]

You're like. But you put your finger on. Look, some of the technical questions would relate to how would monitoring work? Where is the IA permitted to go? Those are legitimate questions. Other questions would relate to the down blending. How will it be done? Who will observe it? How much dilution? If you're talking about 60%, are you diluting it down to 3.67%, or are you diluting it down to 20%? Those are kind of technical questions, but the decisions have to be made at the political level. And look, one thing about the JCPOA, 98%. Iran at that time had no highly enriched uranium, but 98% of all the enriched uranium they had was shipped out of the country to Russia. It wasn't down blended. It was shipped out of the country, 98% of it. So yeah, you know, that's an interesting standard to be comparison comparing it to by the way, that is a political level decision. Exactly what you were saying.

[Jared Moskowitz]

Yep.

[Carly Shimkus]

I wish you were in there. I hope they still call you Ambassador Dennis Ross, thanks so much. I know in Israel they're not thrilled with this at all.

[Josh Raskin]

Right?

[Dennis Ross]

That's correct. Yeah.

[Carly Shimkus]

Dennis Ross, thank you. I appreciate it. Back in a moment.

[Brian Kilmeade]

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[Mike Lawler]

I care obviously for this team so deeply, just like we all do.

[Carly Shimkus]

And I just want us to win.

[Mike Lawler]

Whether I'm playing or not playing,

[Josh Raskin]

I

[Carly Shimkus]

desperately want to win.

[Mike Lawler]

Anything I can do to help.

[Carly Shimkus]

Like I said, those guys, they don't

[Bill Hemmer]

even need my help.

[Mike Lawler]

It was amazing to watch how well they played and the guys just stepping up in every position and it was just, it was fun to be a part of.

[Carly Shimkus]

Christian Pulisic talking about his injury. I'll play that a little bit later and not in this hour, but talking about his calf injury that got re injured. He's only played a half but yet the team has never played better. And the question is in a game against turkey tonight at 10, which is going to be huge ratings, I mean 16 million people watched the second game. Can you imagine what it's going to be like the third game? But for me doing the morning show, getting up at 2:30, I can't watch. So I will hope that he plays. And in talking to more and more people, I really believe they got to play it like it matters because I mean you're playing once a week. If you were playing four times a week, three times a week, I get it. But you haven't played in a week and you're not going to play again till Wednesday. You're going to sit four starters because they have yellow cards and you do have a really good bench. And the one thing that you wouldn't know if you don't follow it heavily but all the most of the bench players have been starters before so they're going to look to prove themselves and say, you know, maybe I'm not going to be in the starting 11 on Wednesday, but man, I want you to be able to count on me. So that's why with 72,000 people and 20 million people watching us, team has to show up. And I was just talking to how many kids, 5 and 6 year old, 8 year olds, 10 year olds say, I think I want to play that sport. I mean that's the sales. Hockey certainly benefited from the USA team winning. And then of course, in 1980 when it won, you know, we have almost hardly any Americans now. It's as big here as in Canada.

[Brian Kilmeade]

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, solutions never sowing division. It's Brian.

[Carly Shimkus]

Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kilmey Show. We're at 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan heard around the country, around the world, where the biggest debate is are we in a blue bubble? Last night I thought the president was great. He was just gave a good speech about the country. Kicking off the big fair in Washington, D.C. leading up to July 4th. I'll be there with this show 29th and 30th, so Monday and Tuesday actually get in on Sunday night. It's going to be great to have a chance to be on the grounds that is nothing but red, white and blue and have a chance to go to the Smithsonian. Everyone should do it, what they have there in the American Museum. Not that the others aren't great, but the American Museum is something you got to go to. It's hard to get through in one day, but thoroughly worth it, especially if it's your family and they're old enough. On this hour, I'm going to be joined by Jeff Lacks. He's a cooney professor speaking up up for the anti Semitism raging in this city and gotta get his take on socialism and why it's taking root. Washington state, Washington, D.C. mayor of Seattle, of course. Then you got what's happening here in New York City, the mayor and then you got three more joining who's ever in the squad. Clearly socialist. And then El said among his many attributes which I find disgusting is he's a socialist. He is a leading contender to be the Democratic nominee over in Michigan to be senator. So don't tell me this is a movement that's not eating up the Democratic Party. Let's get to the big three, number three.

[Alexi Lalas]

I think it matters tremendously for the mentality, the psyche and most importantly, the momentum for this team that has grabbed a hold of the imagination of America. To continue that, to continue to bring people into the tent, to continue to prove that they are worthy of our time.

[Carly Shimkus]

That is the great Alexi Lace. Third and final group game for Team USA and their next round opponent is all but set. We preview the game and more while playing While going over the rest of the field.

[Marco Rubio]

Number two, I think we've been clear. You can call it a fee, you can call it a toll, call it whatever you want. If you are charging money to use the straits, we won't support it, we won't, we won't tolerate it, we won't allow it. And I think there was unanimity in that room on that point.

[Carly Shimkus]

I hope so. Iran talks have one short term benefit. Oil is flowing and prices are dropping. Question at what diplomatic and military cost?

[Zoran Mamdani]

Number one, I think what is the Democratic Party if not its voters? And what we saw yesterday evening were Democrats across the city turning out and voting for a new kind of politics.

[Carly Shimkus]

That is a ram. I'm done. You can't hide. The Dems are in a civil war. And New York's primary results are just the latest proof. The socialists know it and it's time for the progressives to admit it and dare I say, fight it. Josh Krashower joins us now. He's a political expert, Fox News Radio political analyst. Josh, I mean, there's no doubt about it. I think Republicans might be looking at their own mini civil war after Trump is gone. And that's a good conversation I look forward to having. But right now this has to be a five alarm fire for Democrats who watched Hakeem Jeffries go for two of the three winners yesterday and lose both times and now pretend that it's no big deal. Is it a big deal?

[Josh Raskin]

I think it's more than a minor civil war. I think this could define the battle for the nomination, the presidential nomination in 2028. And Democratic leaders have been asleep at the wheel in confronting the rise of the dsa, which, I'm sorry, struck by. How many media outlets use the word Democratic socialist to describe these characters? These are the Chevalier said last night on national tv she's basically a communist. She was asked if she was a communist and did not deny it. I mean, these are radical beyond belief. And we've talked a lot about candidates like Hamaui in New Jersey and El Sayed. We've talked about Graham Platner. I mean, these are off the charts radicals. And not only have Democratic leaders, even though they don't agree with them, they've totally avoided the issue. And now the cancer is metastasizing. And it's a, you're right, it's a five alarm fire on Capitol Hill for the Democratic Party if they don't confront the issue. Chuck Schumer's not gonna be around the Senate in a Couple years, Hakeem Jeffries may have the same problem that Kevin McCarthy faced if he becomes the speaker. I mean, these are really, really big issues that are confronting the Democratic Party that are only getting worse because they delayed the challenge for so long or they delayed confronting the challenge. And by the way, like, the biggest elections are still yet to come. New York was a big one, but we've got Colorado next Tuesday where there's a socialist, another DSA socialist who's leading against a liberal congresswoman, Diana DeGette. We have a Senator John Hickenlooper, who no one talks about a lot, but he's a very well respected moderate who is in danger of losing a Senate seat to a socialist. And then later on in August, you have these Michigan races where we've talked about this before, there was a Hezbollah supporter that got elected in a lower level Board of Regents election, which was shocking. But you also could have el sayed winning and other very radical candidates emerging from that, from that primary. So this is a problem that's not just a Hakeem Jeffries problem. It is that the Senate candidates in these big races in swing states, many of them are off the charts radical. And it's a big, big red flag for the Democratic Party.

[Carly Shimkus]

So I just want you to hear, I mean, Jamie Harrison came out, and I'll paraphrase. Hey, socialists, if you're gonna rip apart the Democratic Party, don't use its infrastructure and its resources to get elected and then destroy it. Right. He used to run the dnc. I'm not a fan of his, but he's right. They let Bernie Sanders come in and run as a Democrat and he's not. And these people are not Democrats.

[Chip Roy]

Yeah, Jimmy Harrison is.

[Josh Raskin]

I mean, there are many critiques of him, but he's a team, a team player. Partisan first and forever. And he understands because of that, like, that these people aren't on his team. He actually understands that they actually want to take over the party. I think Melissa DeRosa on Fox had a, you know, called them parasites on Special Report that they basically are using the institution to take it over and promote dangerous ideologies and radicalism from the party. So they basically want to basically end the party here or prevent it from actually doing its job and then taking it over from within. And that's what's going on in New York now. I mean, look, the battle is early and there's certainly plenty of opportunities for Democrats to spend money to attack a lot of these off the charts radical candidates, but they're not doing it in Maine with Graham Platinum. Like you could see what happened in Maine where Chuck Schumer was endorsing Janet Mills. The governor was afraid because Platner was getting momentum and leading in the polls. He didn't want to spend money, he didn't want to go after Platner. And now Platner and his brand of socialism is reflective of the party all over. Same with Mamdani. Like, the Democrats did not want to go after Mamdani in the mayor's race, and they just kind of let things go by the wayside. He ends up winning the nomination, winning the general election, and now he's basically a force in New York City, Democrat and beyond, New York City, Democratic politics and beyond. So this is, I mean, I do think it's like a cancer within the party. People who are party people, people who are very liberal, but they understand the importance of having a healthy party institution, are now publicly raising the red flag and saying how much of a danger this is, even to democracy. But it's pretty late in the game, and Chuck Schumer still sounds, and to some extent, Jeffrey sound oblivious to the situation that they're confronting.

[Carly Shimkus]

Hey, Josh. The other thing is anti Semitism, I mean, anti Israel, anti Semitism and the Islamic extremist doctrine, pro Hamas. I mean, this is the attitude that's permeating through, let alone the abolished prisons, abolish ice, abolish prisons, abolish the border. Really.

[Josh Raskin]

Well, one thing that we've talked about a lot on the show is that as extreme and heinous as these anti Semitic and anti Israel comments are, Democrats kind of excuse them by saying, well, maybe we can still, you know, we can kind of just avoid talking about it and still win these elections.

[Carly Shimkus]

Blame Bibi. And they blame Bibi.

[Josh Raskin]

Here's the problem, Brian, that the people who have these heinous pro terrorism, anti Israel views also have a lot of other views, like get rid of prisons, let's not give criminal penalties to murderers. I mean, that's Chevalier right there. She's on record in many contexts saying those exact things. Open borders. The people who are the most anti Israel hold all kinds of radical, just beyond the pale political views that are going to be toxic for the party both, you know, in their own races, but certainly beyond and how it reflects the party brand. So, like Democrats may say, well, Israel's not popular anymore within the Democratic Party, so we don't need to worry about that. But the problem is that almost all of these candidates, they're not just radical on Israel, they're radical and all these other important issues that affect people's daily lives. And that's going to be a rude wake up, see what their views actually are.

[Dennis Ross]

Right.

[Carly Shimkus]

I mean, Letitia James came out on this and B, she basically who she endorsed Mandami, I think, if I can remember. Correct. Did she endorse Mandami?

[Zoran Mamdani]

Yeah.

[Josh Raskin]

I mean, some of them endorsed Mamdani after he won the nomination. But, yeah, like, they jumped on Team Mamdani when they saw where the winds were blowing. And instead of trying to fight Mamdani from within, they kind of like, well, I really don't like Cuomo.

[Chip Roy]

He's a little sleazy.

[Josh Raskin]

And instead of doing what it takes to actually like, they do it against Republicans and fight Republicans with that same fervor, they basically let socialists and the DSA in New York in the tent. And now they're taking over the party and creating chaos, as we, as we can see.

[Carly Shimkus]

So New York Attorney General Leticia James said this on another network. Some of the candidates that Mondame has supported are individuals who don't understand the politics of New York City, the cultural differences from district to district, who have not been part of the history and the struggle of some of these districts and are relatively new to the body politics. And she went off. So for her to do that and Hakeem Jeffries says it's no big deal. I'm wondering if Democrats don't bring up and say, I am different than this, Republicans are gonna have a field day, don't you think?

[Josh Raskin]

Oh, yeah. I mean, look, the big tests are gonna be in some of these swing New York congressional races outside of the city. So there are races in Long island where Democrats have had some real struggles in the past, even when Democrats have done well overall. I'm thinking of Swazi and thinking of Galen in New York in those Long island feeds. But also, Mike Lawler is certainly. He has a moderate, more moderate challenger in Westchester. But my guy, I haven't heard her give a response. And she's going to Connally the nominee for the Democrats. She's going to have to speak out against the socialists. And I don't know if talking points are going to be good enough. There has to be a sort of a moral outrage to convince some of these suburban moderates that this is not the kind of Democratic Party they want to see. So I know the line from a lot of Schumer and Jefferies and a lot of Democratic officials on record has been, well, look, we have moderates in these districts, but the Problem has been that they're not willing to confront the extremists. They're not willing to speak out against the anti Semitism and maybe it was just about anti Semitism. They could get away with it. But because they want to abolish the police and because they want to end jails and incarceration, those issues are going to translate down to the party at large, especially in New York. So I mean those are going to be the Lawler race especially I think is going to be a big test case of whether the larger brand problems for the party are going to affect even some of their more moderate candidates.

[Carly Shimkus]

John Fetterman writes anti Israel, anti American, anti Western civilization. Why am I the only Democrat in the US Senate that refuses to excuse this or defend any of these self identified communists? That's a Democrat. Now keep in mind the Wall Street Journal editorial, I won't bore you with the whole thing but they say after Tuesday Democrats offer Eva offered even less resistance than before Tuesday. They'll face more socialist challenges across the country and history says they'll to try survive by accommodating the left ideas. Medicare for all, higher income taxes, a wealth tax abolish ICE are going to be Democratic agenda if not in swing districts in 2026 then in the Democratic presidential primary in 2028. The DSA is a growing force and has already captured the mayor's office. Bernie Sanders is closer to achieving the dream of capturing the Democratic Party for the left through a younger generation. Do you want to challenge anything that I just read from the Wall Street Journal editorial board?

[Josh Raskin]

I would just underscore it by saying this is not a New York, this is not just a New York city. Pretty much every city in the every big city in the country. The DSA has as much or is threatening to have as much power as actual Democratic moderate institutions. These are one party states cities as you well know Brian. Like there's no Republican party in most competitive in most American cities. So basically the DSA has become that second party. In Los Angeles for example, you've got DSA challenging. You know we talk a lot about Spencer Stratt, but it's the DSA candidate that actually went on to the second round against Karen Bass who's pretty pretty to the left herself. So and then and it's not just the cities too. We talked about Michigan next week. In Colorado there's a statewide primary where John Hickenlooper is facing a socialist. Diana DeGette in Denver facing a socialist. This is metastasizing. So you know, Democrats may want to comfort themselves in saying this is true. Just these two districts in New York, three districts in New York City. It is spreading. Mamdani allowed it to spread beyond the mayor's race, and now these congressional results are allowing it to spread well past New York City.

[Carly Shimkus]

Yeah, I can't wait to. I would just love to see Chuck Schumer just call a press conference and just say, this is not my party. You know, if you want me out as majority leader, go ahead. Minority leader, go ahead. But I don't recognize this party. And the AOC looks like she's running for president.

[Josh Raskin]

They have the money and they have the resources to go after these socialist candidates, but they're worried about, again, that these actually, these radical candidates have more grassroots support than they would like to acknowledge.

[Carly Shimkus]

But they say only 7% of the Democratic Party members showed up for this. For this election. They gave it a Mondami. 7%.

[Chip Roy]

Yeah.

[Josh Raskin]

I mean, look, it's the. Pat, the problem in our politics these days is that the passionate crazies that are the ones that show up and the people who are normal tend not to vote or just don't realize there's an election, a primary election that's in the middle of June or in the middle of the summer, that's taking place. So that. That's part of the problem. Problem, the people that have taken over and are the most passionate on the Democratic Party side say this writ large, too, is that they're the ones who are the most extreme and they're the ones dominating the process as a result.

[Carly Shimkus]

Josh, crazy times. You know, remember the day when, you know, Bill Clinton and George Bush, there wasn't much difference in their economy and their personal military. It was personal. It was. One dodged the draft and one was a hero at 19 now, but the country was making a choice. But now I feel if the country goes to any of these socialists for a major seat, I mean, that is a dramatically different country. They want to pack the court. They want to add two states. They want to get rid of the Electoral College. You know, I mean, this is. They want to have a wealth tax. Their goal is a wealth tax federally when it's failed everywhere in Europe and in the Nordic states. In the Nordic countries. So, I mean, this is a dramatic change come election day in 26 and for sure in 28.

[Josh Raskin]

Final thought. Well, I'm grateful that we've been talking about this for a long time. I mean, this shouldn't come as a surprise to any of your listeners. Sadly, I think the New York Times and some, even the local papers in New York. And some of these big cities have been asleep at the wheel like Washington D.C. barely covered the fact in the local Washington Post that there was a socialist that was about to get nominated. It really underplayed all these ideological demands. So a lot of people, it's not just the politics, but the media has totally ignored the radicalism and the threat to democracy, frankly, from these radical candidates.

[Carly Shimkus]

All right, thanks so much, Josh. Appreciate it.

[Josh Raskin]

Thanks, Brian.

[Carly Shimkus]

We come back. I'm going to give a squeeze in some calls, but I got a lot of your emails already last night. So, Brian kilmeade.com click on comments. Bottom of the hour. We expand on this and also talk about the World cup and also the America 250. And I got some polling numbers that are both encouraging and discouraging. So your thoughts next? Next.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Giving you everything you need to know. You're with Brian Kilmeade. The more you listen, the more you'll know it's Brian Kilmeade.

[Carly Shimkus]

His book is available at Barnes and Nobody's host of Fox and Friends at One Nation.

[Dennis Ross]

Brian Kilmeade.

[Carly Shimkus]

Brian, even before COVID people were asking

[Mike Lawler]

you to wear a mask.

[Carly Shimkus]

Are you just you?

[Mike Lawler]

Actually, yeah, it was just me in the bedroom.

[Carly Shimkus]

Are you looking? And it's funny because I didn't never see his face.

[Mike Lawler]

Anyway,

[Carly Shimkus]

three in a row.

[Mike Lawler]

My God.

[Carly Shimkus]

But really, what idea is more worthy

[Mike Lawler]

of the Democrat party than having women teach men about masculinity in a camp? That's like Brian Kilme teaching me how to make make friends.

[Carly Shimkus]

Like Brad Pitt.

[Mike Lawler]

Yeah, I mean, how did he get on screen dog?

[Dennis Ross]

Woof, woof.

[Mike Lawler]

Brian, right?

[Carly Shimkus]

I don't judge men.

[Mike Lawler]

Yeah, you.

[Carly Shimkus]

And I don't think this is the way to go. But I never ran for president. You said circumcisions got cut, right? Yeah, no longer. All right, enough of that dirty, dirty humor.

[Mike Lawler]

I won't have it here.

[Dennis Ross]

Really?

[Carly Shimkus]

Hilby, you must hear. Nobody cares a lot.

[Josh Raskin]

Not really.

[Carly Shimkus]

Just on this show around you. If I ever work with Craig, I'd have actually no self esteem at all. But I just get him in small doses every once in a while. It's kind of a good point, Brian.

[Mike Lawler]

I mean, you love cheese, judging by my elevator rides with you.

[Carly Shimkus]

So I have no idea what half those references were. It was a gut belt from two days ago. Would you cut that up, Eric? Did you? Did you?

[Jeff Lax]

Allison did.

[Chip Roy]

But that one got kind of raunchy, didn't it?

[Carly Shimkus]

It was unbelievable. Yeah, I'M not sure that's worthy of our show. I have no idea where that show is going, but it was actually a fun show. I think that he does a great job. I mean, look at the ratings. I mean it just look at the ratings. You literally take Jimmy Kimmel, double it. I don't think they reach him. I mean, he's getting in the fours over four. Jesse's raised it. I mean, everybody in primetime's through the roof. But I mean, what he does at 10 o' clock is unbelievable. I mean he was, he was getting the same thing at 11. That's and I guess Jimmy Kimmel benefit a little bit because Colbert bowed out. I don't think Jimmy Fallon has moved up at all. But he's spending. I watched some of his monologues last few days just to get a feel for it. 80% stand I Trump, please. Isn't that lane full? Jeff Blacksmith,

[Brian Kilmeade]

If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmeade, I think what

[Zoran Mamdani]

is the Democratic Party if not its voters? And what we saw yesterday evening were Democrats across the city turning out and voting for a new kind of politics. And I've been clear time and time again that I believe the only majority in our country is that of the working class. And what we saw is that a focus on the the working class, whether it's from Claire, whether it's from Dariel Issa, whether it's from Brad, is the kind of focus that New Yorkers want to see. And I have a deep amount of respect for, for my friend Attorney General James. And I also believe that these are the kinds of candidates that we need to see in Congress as well as the five state legislative candidates that I endorsed that also won yesterday evening if we want to truly fulfill the affordability agenda.

[Carly Shimkus]

Mayor Sky High, he really is, even though he got less votes than any other mayor that's been elected from Bloomberg. Even if you look at de Blasio, what a joke he was, he did better both elections, but he is doing more with less and he is finding a way to get people out. And one thing they have in common, they are all anti Semitic and certainly anti Israel. Goes without saying, if you are take a dollar from aipac. That is the third rail now for any Democrat and some Republicans. Jeff Lax knows all about it. Anti Semitism raging in New York City and how it spreads. He's professor of law at CUNY at City College here in New York City and joins us now. Jeff, your take on what we all witnessed on Tuesday night.

[Jeff Lax]

Yeah, I mean, he is smooth, though. That's the one concern. I think we have someone that had a lot of success and he's gonna. He has an ego. He has no shortage of an ego either. So this rapper, that's what he really is. He's never had a real job, but he is going. I think he's going to have success in a way, believe it or not, in my opinion, that AOC has not been able to, which is to. Because he's been actually successful at helping colleagues, organizing and getting them into power. That's something that AOC has not done well, actually. And if you look at these three people that won't the primaries and they're going to be obviously in Congress because New York is so dark blue in their district specifically. But Darieliza Avila Chevalier, she is beyond crazy. She was. I really want to remind people of the exact quote that she gave, because I don't think it's getting out there enough. She for. She helped form Qad. That was our friend Mahmoud Khalil's group. And what she said was what they put this out in the tweet that Qad's goal. So Darieliza's goal was, quote, we are Westerners fighting for the total eradication of Western civilization. That's what she wants. That's who these people are. And that is something we need to all come together. There are Democrats out there still that oppose this, and we have to have a coalition to oppose this.

[Carly Shimkus]

But how about. Also, she wants to abolish prisons, wants to abolish ice, of course, and despised the Democratic Party. And then she says, well, I used to think that. Not anymore. That's bs. We know she thinks that. And why would that attract anybody? Normally a background check. If you say, wow, that's a good speaker, I wonder what she's about. You looked at, you do a background check and you go, she can't possibly run for office, but instead Mondami says, that's perfect. I'd like to put all my power and prestige and the DSA money behind her. It's insane to think about, but she went out and won. And where was she just, Jeff, on October 8, 2023.

[Jeff Lax]

Yeah. Celebrating.

[Carly Shimkus]

Celebrating the attack. The attacks that were still going on from Gaza, in Israel.

[Jeff Lax]

It's absolutely sick. It's absolutely sick when people have. When the bodies were still warm. She was celebrating while vigils were going on on her campuses and other campuses. She was celebrating. Yeah. The only thing I would say, Brian, is I would start if I'm the rest of the country right now and if I'm Republicans, especially cuz Republicans have their own little problem. I give them a lot of credit though, because they're standing up to it. But if I'm Republicans right now, I clarify this message. It is not just anti Semitism and it's not just a talking point to say that it is factually true. These people are not coming after Jews, they're coming after Western culture. That's the truth. The Jews are the easy way in. The Jews are very easy to get everyone to agree, to hate and definitely Israel, very easy for that to be the Trojan horse. But that's not really what this is about. This is about coming really coming after not just American culture, all of western culture. You look across Europe, what's happening right now, Brian, it is sick. You look at Sweden, you look at Germany, you look at the uk, you look at France, have you seen the sexual assault numbers in these countries that they now have confirmed through studies are coming from increased migration from North Africa and the Middle east and people who are not vetted. And now Europe of all places, Europe is now waking up and starting to toughen their immigration laws and starting to deport criminals that were migrants.

[Carly Shimkus]

We were ahead of them and we have to learn Trump was ahead of them, not Biden. Trump was ahead of them. I want you to hear more from Dara Liza in her debate on New York 1.

[Dara Liza]

I was in Nablus for almost 2 months and I visited many cities in the region, both in the west bank and in Israel. And what I found in my time there was a system of apartheid. And I saw so many connections between what was happening to Palestinians there in Palestine and what was happening to so many communities across the U.S. particularly black and Latino communities who have been priced out and pushed out of our homes. When we talk about displacement in the west bank or in Gaza, it is a very similar, visually similar situation where people who have been in a place for generations are being displaced because of corporate interests, because of folks who are coming in, claiming the land, buying it up and kicking the people who live there out. And I've seen a lot of similarities, not just in the way things are done, but also in very institutions that are enacting that violence. The tear gas that was being dropped on Palestinians in Gaza in 2014 was the same tear gas that was being dropped on black protesters in Ferguson in 2014. And that memory that summer for me was incredibly formidable because it showed me that connection is not only one that is like. But it is the very same system.

[Carly Shimkus]

So what do you. What about her analogy that got no pushback?

[Jeff Lax]

Well, I mean, this is their talking point. This is how they build their fake coalition. And that's why I think we need to form a real coal. This is not a real coalition. Marx. You know, Marxists and Islamists can't really coexist, not long term. This is all very toxic.

[Carly Shimkus]

Are secular, aren't they? They don't believe in any religion.

[Jeff Lax]

Not just secular. They want to make religion illegal.

[Carly Shimkus]

Yeah, and Islamists live for the religion. Everything is based on religion. It's ridiculous.

[Jeff Lax]

What about women's rights? I mean, you know, if you're an Islamist, look at Europe again, Look at the UK, 80 Sharia Law Councils, God forbid this ever happens in our country. You know what happens to women under Sharia law. And these law councils are handling issues of domestic. Domestic issues in the uk. It's really scary. But what is she really doing here? When she talks about apartheid? It's such nonsense. Israel has 2 million Muslims. The happiest, freest Muslims in the entire Middle east live in Israel. If you are in Gaza and you are gay, and I looked this up, Brian, there are actually about 10 Palestinians who escape to Israel every year. It doesn't sound like a lot, but think about the courage it takes to do this. They run away from Gaza, they escape Hamas and they try to get refuge in Israel because they're gay, because they don't want to get thrown off a building. And Those are the 10 luckiest Gazans every year who make it to Israel. And Israel gives them refuge, which they do, by the way, and they get saved from being thrown off a roof.

[Carly Shimkus]

So. So let me ask Apartheid Jeff, I want you to hear from Dan Goldman, who, you know, he's just vehemently. He's as bad at Trump as Adam Schiff is, as Jamie Raskin is. So nobody thinks that this guy isn't liberal enough, anti Trump enough. But he lost this election, got trounced because he's Jewish, basically, and hasn't condemned Israel, even though he condemns Netanyahu. Listen to this. What I am most concerned about is that it is clearly veering from the opposition to what another government is doing into outright anti Semitism, which is on the rise, something I certainly felt during this campaign and is something that the entire Democratic Party, not just Jews, are going to have to grapple with. Is he right?

[Jeff Lax]

Yeah, absolutely. And what you said is 100% right. I mean, look, all you have to do is look at what happened with Kamala Harris a couple of short years ago with the, with Governor Shapiro and cnn. This famous clip, you remember the clip where, where what was a king? I think it was king goes on the air and doesn't say that Shapiro wasn't selected because he's pro Israel. Doesn't say he wasn't selected because he's too Zionist. Literally says on CNN that the Democrats thought it was a problem that he was Jewish. That's what he said.

[Carly Shimkus]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lax]

And this is two years ago ago. So we're seeing a lot of this now.

[Carly Shimkus]

We're finally to Jeff, AIPAC 2. That is a, you know, it's a lobbying group for Israel. Now the big question, I think the first question on stage, the CNN moderator will ask Democratic candidates for president, put up your hand if you promise not to take money from AIPAC. And every hand will go up and AOCs will be the highest.

[Jeff Lax]

This is the most anti anti democratic disgusting thing I've ever had because these are all Americans. And the last I looked, Americans are allowed to socialize. We have freedom of association, freedom of speech. If we love Israel because we believe in the Bible, we are allowed to do that. So this idea that AIPAC is an Israeli far enough is the most disgusting. Anti American and anti Semitic. Those things are now so combined, so intertwined it is anti American to tell Americans they cannot associate for their, in their love for anything. It could be another country. Just because you love the land of Israel because it's holy doesn't make you a subservient in any way or a dual loyalist in any way. And I'm telling you, to me, this is the most anti American thing you do. Look at all these crazy soccer fans now, do we begrudge any of them here in America? Even Americans? Forget the ones who are coming here and loving the ranch dressing. What about the native living Americans here who are putting on foreign outfits and the regalia they wear for these matches. We allow them to associate and to celebrate different countries for these soccer matches. And that's America.

[Carly Shimkus]

Yeah, no, no doubt about it. I can't believe it's accepting. And there is a problem on the right too with Israel. You know, there's certain podcasters out there that come out and say Israel is the problem. As long as the Republican Party is associated with Israel, they're always going to be. We're always going to be dragged into wars and there's always going to be issues. We know that's taken root in Europe. You've already went over that. So I Think that's got to be. I mean, guys like Tom Cotton, Lindsey Graham, most of the Democrats, Josh gottheimer. People are going to come out and say, that is not me, Jeff Fetterman. But some will. Some will be afraid to condemn those on the extreme right with a podcast who are basically daring you to say that Israel is our ally.

[Jeff Lax]

Yeah, I mean, it's unfortunate. It is so not true that if America, if America did not associate with Israel, that we wouldn't still have a problem with all these terrorist groups. Again, I urge people to understand the truth, which is that these countries, these Sharia law countries, want a global caliphate. Israel is a tiny little nuisance. They want to flick Israel away as soon as they can and go after the big get, which is America. It has nothing to do with American support for Israel. Again, if it did, why would we be seeing the infiltration of these sexual assaults by Middle Eastern men from some of these Sharia countries all across Europe today? What does that have to do. What does the Sharia law councils have to do in the UK with hating Israel? Nothing. This is a global movement for a global caliphate has nothing to do with Jews. And people need to wake up and understand that.

[Carly Shimkus]

Lastly, just real quick, do you think at one point Hakeem Jeffries or Dancy Pelosi or anybody thought to be in Democratic leadership will come out in favor of Israel? Condemn the anti Semitism amongst these three that just got elected.

[Jeff Lax]

They just had their chance and they didn't.

[Carly Shimkus]

Okay.

[Jeff Lax]

I mean, they just had their. How many chances have they had and they haven't. No, I don't think that. I think if you've ever read Malcolm Gladwell, the tipping point was reached a long time ago, Brian. The Democratic Party is a socialist party. There's no way to stop that now. The question is, what do the Republicans do about it?

[Carly Shimkus]

Jeff Lax, thanks so much. Keep fighting, Jeff. Appreciate it.

[Jeff Lax]

Love you, Brian. Thank you.

[Carly Shimkus]

All right, back in a moment.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Don't go anywhere. Brian Kilmeade will be right back. Radio that makes you think this is the Brian Kilmeade show.

[Carly Shimkus]

In the first minute of the England game, one of the announcers got a little spicy about my homeland. Take a listen. Ghana have never beaten England. It would be a huge shock. But as we know, the English historically

[Josh Raskin]

struggle here in Massachusetts.

[Mike Lawler]

It's a.

[Jeff Lax]

It's, It's a.

[Marco Rubio]

It's a.

[Carly Shimkus]

It's a good joke. It's a good joke.

[Marco Rubio]

It's a good.

[Jeff Lax]

It is.

[Zoran Mamdani]

It is.

[Carly Shimkus]

You know, where America has historically struggled, the World Cup. Both true. Both true. James Corden, what a great hire. You know, it's just, it's one of those things where you. He doesn't just make a joke of it because, you know, he obviously knows soccer, but he doesn't come off as the aficionado that knows everything. He's there to lighten it up and recap at the same time. And I think he gives great respect to the US Team I saw. I haven't watched a lot of it, but everything I saw has been funny. But he's funny. And again, I've never met him, but his late night show was so cool in that it was so different. He reluctantly would have a couple of drum trucks and then he would just move on and do skits. He's an actor and I think was so cool of Fox Sports to hire him or Fox Network to hire him. And. And now that we're getting millions of people watching, I'm sure he's getting millions of people. I bet you he gets a late night contract out of this because the guy's funny. Now, I know he had this problem with some problem in a restaurant that he was unable to shake. Some dis. Some disagreement on tipping ended up being a bigger deal. And again, I haven't met him, but he's just having fun with these guys. He doesn't try to be Ted Koppel and find out, well, what really is going on. He's just. It's a good way to end the day and recap the night. But on the game itself, this is my take. I watched Brazil play Scotland, and Scotland was not even on the same planet. They gave up two big goals on mistakes. And it kills me because the best thing off the field, no offense, Norway has been the tartan army of Scotland. Not only do they have fun and drink cities out of beer, but they bring bagpipes, they have parades, they donate to children's hospitals and good causes. And I'm sad because if Scotland loses, which they did in Miami by three, nothing, they can advance even as a third place team. So I hope they stick around. And you know, if you stick around, we promise to brew more beer because literally it happened. So that's kind of cool. By the way, on a side note, I wrote this editorial, was asked to write this editorial for the New York Post today. I hope you read it. It's about 1776, what I think of the country. They asked me to just keep it broad and it's in there, so hopefully everyone has a chance to read it. If you don't get the New York Post even though it's an international newspaper, just go to nyp, nypost.com and I'm sure it'll pop up or just Google my name. So keep in mind here we're going to be keeping you up to date on what's happening in the World Cup. I'm going out to a game today keeping you up to date what's happening in Iran and of course in New York City. Is it a blue bubble or is that bubble now spreading across the country, which would make it a different, different country, a country that I don't think would be recognizable. What do you think? Go if you have to run now. Brian kilmeade.com if you're watching on YouTube later. Brian kilme.com to get your comments

[Brian Kilmeade]

from the FOX News radio studios in midtown Manhattan. It's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian. Brian Kilmeade,

[Carly Shimkus]

So glad you're there. It's Brian Kilmeade. Joe, I'm still trying to make sense of the city I'm in which is doing such a great job hosting the world. I mean, these sports bars overflowing about a game, people wearing jerseys and at one in one hand, I'm extremely proud. But then when I see who they're elected, who they put in power and their philosophies and policies, I'm sickened. Coming up the bottom of the hour, chip room. Roy doesn't have those problems, lives in Texas. He's going to be with me. Congressman Mike Lawler, who now has an opponent and always will be in a fight in a battleground district in New York, will be with me shortly. So let's get to the big three. Number three.

[Alexi Lalas]

I think it matters tremendously for the mentality, the psyche and most importantly, the momentum for this team that has grabbed a hold of the imagination of America. To continue that, to continue, continue to bring people into the tent, to continue to prove that they are worthy of our time.

[Carly Shimkus]

That's Lexi Lace who's having a great cup. He's getting fights. It's real. He has opinions and they contradicted. That's called a real scoreboard show. Cannot wait for the game tonight at 10 and cannot wait to go out to the World cup today at four.

[Marco Rubio]

Number two, I think we've been clear. You can call it a fee, you can call it a toll, call it whatever you want. If you are charging money to use the straights, we won't support it. We won't, won't, we won't Tolerate it. We won't allow it. And I think there was unanimity in that room on that point.

[Carly Shimkus]

That is Marco Rubio at a press conference this morning, brilliantly handled every question from around the world. Iran talks have one short term benefit. Oil is flowing, prices are dropping. The question at what diplomatic and military costs.

[Zoran Mamdani]

We'll discuss number one, I think what is the Democratic Party if not its voters? And what we saw yesterday evening where Democrats across the city turning out and voting for a new kind of politics,

[Carly Shimkus]

that is Mayor Mamdani. You can't hide it. Dems are in a civil war. And New York's primary results are just the latest proof. The Socialists know it and it's time for the progressives to admit it. The Socialists say it's their party, Progressive says it's not. But why don't you say it to them? Congressman Mike Lawler joins us now. Congressman, I never expected Hakeem Jeffries to lose in those three seats, and I guess two of which he went to bat for Nancy Pelosi, went to bat for Dan Goldman. Dan Goldman is as tough on Donald Trump as Jamie Raskin and Adam Schiff. So please don't tell me that he was too moderate. You know, it's not, he's not Tom Suozzi, who is a moderate, I think a moderate. I think you do too. So that would be different if he lost to a moderate. Go the party's change. But this guy has already left. How do you interpret this? Not only your opponent, I'll get to that. But as somebody who knows New York

[Mike Lawler]

politics, look, there's no question that the socialists had a very big night. They picked up three congressional seats and over half a dozen state legislative seats underneath. That's not really been focused on because of the big three, but they are on the march and Mamdani is leading the charge. And frankly, Jefferies and Schumer look pathetic and weak. And to your point, Brian, Dan Goldman and Adriano Espaillat are hardcore progressives. They are far left. They are not centrist, they're not moderate, they never have been. But they were taken out by radical socialists, many of whom espouse anti American viewpoints. And sadly for the Democrats and sadly for America, this is becoming the mainstream of the Democratic Party. When you look at Graham Platner, when you look at, you know, out in New Jersey, you know, a defense witness for the bomber in the World Trade center in 1993, I mean, it's crazy. The people that they are nominating for public office for Congress, for The United States House of Representatives. And this is what they're putting forward.

[Carly Shimkus]

So here is Senator. Senator Lisa Blunt. Rochester is a Delaware Center Democrat. This is how they're trying to handle this. Cut 11. Where has socialism ever worked, Senator? Is that another question or is that

[Mike Lawler]

for the next interview?

[Zoran Mamdani]

That's it. That's.

[Carly Shimkus]

Oh, that's definitely for you. You said fish. Fish doesn't work everywhere. I just want to know one place where socialism has.

[Marco Rubio]

Has been.

[Carly Shimkus]

Been beneficial. Well, when you have me.

[Dennis Ross]

When you have me come back on,

[Carly Shimkus]

we can talk about all the races. That's cnbc. They tried it. Just to say it doesn't work. It's not what I believe. Right. Just say, well, I'm a capitalist and I want Medicare for all or something, but I'm not a socialist. Just what's so hard about that?

[Mike Lawler]

It shouldn't be that hard. I mean, frankly, one of the only people that has pushed back against this is Josh Gottheimer from New Jersey. But this is craziness. It's not that hard to say. I don't support socialism and I don't agree with their perspective. You know, listen, I had no problem calling out Thomas Massie or Marjorie Taylor Greene when I disagreed with them on a policy. You have to be willing to push back. This is a fight for the soul and the future of the country. This is almost beyond Republican versus Democrat. You have crazy radical socialists that are seizing control of the Democratic Party. And Brian, they admit they're not even really Democrats. They're just using the Democratic Party as the vehicle. And so you have Hakeem Jeffries, who effectively lost control. He cut a deal with Mamdani to protect himself so that Chiyo Se would not run against him in a primary, but basically threw everybody under the bus as sacrificial lambs from Espayat to Goldman. And it's just, it's frankly, it's embarrassing what has become of the Democratic Party, especially in New York, where Zoran Mamdani and AOC are leading the charge.

[Carly Shimkus]

Yeah. So for you, I think just Jared Moskowitz, who's in Florida, but says the other thing besides socialism is anti Semitism. Cut 16.

[Jared Moskowitz]

If they want to have a policy debate. Right. We can have that policy debate. Like, I'm all for debating policies, and people don't have to agree with me on policies. They can have different positions. Right. And the voters get to make. The voters get to make those choices. But for me, what's going on is the movement has embraced a lot of anti Semites and some of the people coming here have a history of anti Semitism having nothing to do with, with Israel.

[Carly Shimkus]

So that's the one other thing, you have to point that out too. Even though you guys on the Republican Party, you also have the podcast platform who tends to be right. Some have resigned from the Republican Party. There have been anti Israel leaning towards anti Semitism too. Mike. Oh, no question.

[Mike Lawler]

And Brian, I've called it out. I mean, Josh gottheimer and I put forward a resolution condemning Hassan Piker and Candace Owens calling out Tucker Carlson. I have no problem calling out antisemitism wherever it rears its head.

[Dennis Ross]

Head.

[Mike Lawler]

It's vile and it has no place in our politics, let alone society. And unfortunately, what we're seeing though is especially on the left, they are electing and supporting candidates that are openly anti Semitic. You saw in the primary against Thomas Massie, he was defeated despite trying to make it all about Israel. Israel and Jews. And so, you know, to me, both parties need to not only police this, but really ensure that these crazy, radical, anti Semitic Semites are not being elected to public office. But look, this is bigger than that in many respects. It's not just anti Semitism or Jew hatred. It is a hatred of America. It is a hatred of Western democracy. It is a hatred of capitalism. You know, they dabble in Marxist theory and the oppressed versus the oppressor and that's what this is rooted in. And they fundamentally are trying to reshape America and American democracy and our constitutional republic.

[Carly Shimkus]

In a way, it's a blessing for a guy like you. In a way, it's a blessing because you're in a battleground district. And so you have to be able to define people and say the difference because people in battleground district know being extreme left to right is probably not going to be successful. You and Brian Fitzpatrick are examples of that. So. But until further notice, that is the left. And your opponent is now Kate Connelly on Ms. Now, where, where anyone would feel comfortable who believes what he believes. Cut 27.

[Kate Connelly]

This administration, what it's done, it has been very clear. It does not care about working class families. It does not care about the problems they are facing, policing. And instead of fighting for those people, instead of fighting for families, Mike Lawler has given Donald Trump a blank check. Where you have families unable to even balance their checkbook.

[Carly Shimkus]

Have you given Donald Trump a blank check?

[Mike Lawler]

No. And in fact, I'm the one who fought back against the president directly on the issue of salt. I'm the one that fought to Pass the largest tax cut in American history. Putting more money back in the pockets of. Of hardworking New Yorkers, especially in my district. Lifting the cap on salt from 10,000 to 40,000 produced some of the largest tax refunds people have ever seen. Between $5,000 and $20,000 on average. Because we actually passed legislation that matters. It's why I led the effort on housing and why we've passed a bipartisan housing bill to actually increase supply, reduce costs, and create greater access to capital. You know, Kate can't disagree with anything that these folks say. She wants to ban ice. She wants to raise taxes and increase federal spending. She wants open borders. You know, she is no different than the rest of them. She just doesn't call herself a socialist.

[Carly Shimkus]

She went at you again. Cut 25.

[Kate Connelly]

Mike Lawler is a very skilled communicator because he spent the last 20 years as a political operative and political hack, where I've spent the last 20 years leading America's sons and daughters in defense of this nation. Mike Lawler wants to get credit for doing things. You know, he's the guy who starts the fire and then wants credit for calling the fire department when really he is an arsonist.

[Carly Shimkus]

Are you an arsonist?

[Mike Lawler]

No. In fact, I'm one of the most bipartisan and effective members of Congress precisely because I actually try to solve problems.

[Jared Moskowitz]

Films.

[Mike Lawler]

Regardless of who started it or who created it. Look, I respect her service, but that alone is not means by which she's qualified to be a member of Congress. And she has offered no solutions to anything. And in fact, the thing she does talk about, she says she wants to ban stock trading. I'm one of the leads on the bill to do that. You know, she wants term limits. I support that. I've been one of the leads on a bill to do that. So the things she's talking about that she's claiming somehow she's going to effectuate change on, we agree on. But the reality is the stuff that matters to hardworking New Yorkers, the cost of living. She doesn't want to increase domestic production of energy. I'm calling for Indian Point to be rebuilt and reopened. I'm calling for natural gas pipelines to be built. I'm calling for natural gas extraction in

[Jared Moskowitz]

New York to be.

[Mike Lawler]

Be permitted. The fact is, utility rates are up 58% in New York precisely because she supports Kathy Hochul's disastrous policies of shutting down nuclear power plants and blocking natural gas. So, you know, you look at the issue of affordability. Let's talk affordability. Let's talk about the fact that New York has a $277 billion budget up $20 billion in one year, and she said nothing about it. Meanwhile, New Yorkers are leaving in droves because they can't afford to live here. You want to address the issue of affordability, Start reining in the size and scope of government in New York. That's what we've been doing in Washington, right? Sizing the federal budget, starting to rein in the excesses and make it easier for people to afford where they live. The stock market is hitting record highs. Interest rates are coming down. Oil prices are dropping precipitously as the Strait of Hormuz reopens. You know, Democrats have done nothing to address any of these issues. All they do is yell and scream that they hate Donald Trump.

[Carly Shimkus]

I worry that the blue states are going to keep taxes high to keep gas high, to give the perception that the gas is not going down. I mean, I went to California to watch, to cover the U.S. national team. Gas is like $7. I mean, even when it comes down because there's so many taxes put into

[Mike Lawler]

the gas that they. They tax people to death in California and New York. And I had this debate with Maxine Waters just a few weeks ago in the Financial Services Committee. She was screaming about gas prices. And I pointed out that the reason California has the highest gas prices anywhere in the country is because all the excise taxes they add onto it on top of your traditional, you know, highway tax.

[Carly Shimkus]

Congressman, can you. Do you think Kathy Hogle's got to make a decision here? She's scared to death of him. I'm talking about mom, dummy. She doesn't run as a socialist, but Bruce Blakeman's got an opportunity here to define her. She's got to decide either you leave Mandami or you make yourself a socialist and run as Mandami to keep your governor's seat.

[Mike Lawler]

Kathy Hochul is the most feckless, incompetent governor in America. She has run the state into the ground, and she has kowtowed to the socialists in the same way Jefferies and Schumer have. I mean, they're petrified of Zoran Mamdani and aoc. They have turned over the legislative agenda to them. They refused to negotiate in good faith on anything. They've shut the government down for months on end, all to appease these crazy radical socialists. And, you know, unfortunately, Kathy Hochul does not have the spine nor the intelligence to actually push back against this insanity.

[Carly Shimkus]

Congressman, if you lose the. If you lose your seat. Republicans have no shot at keeping the House. And I think they realize that. And you're a really good campaigner and you are an impactful congressman. People don't have to look hard to see your record. You're not sneaking out or disappearing for months on end like the guy in New Jersey. You're always in the fight.

[Bill Hemmer]

Fight.

[Carly Shimkus]

Always appreciate having you on. You do a consequential job. Congressman Mike Lower, thanks so much.

[Mike Lawler]

Thanks, Brian. Appreciate it.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Back in a moment, it's Brian Kilmeade. Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kilmeade Show.

[Carly Shimkus]

Yes, thank you, Mr. President. So 121, 41 years ago, Albert Einstein, 121 years ago, Albert Einstein published a paper nobody cares. What do I mean? Just cut down. That is secretary of his secretary of energy just cut down. He wanted to make a big distinct distinction about how important this eu, this EO is about to be. And the president just cut him off. You could tell. Imagine what he's like in meetings. You got to get to the point. You got to be precise. You got to be concise dice. So I don't think, I think he definitely likes him. I just think that at that moment he could think of nothing else and the whole room cracked up. It was pretty essential to see. But it's real. I mean, that's one thing you're never what people don't realize. And we're going to be talking about this in 2029 constantly. Trump is out there every day. Reporters have a cell phone, anchors have a cell phone. Friends have a cell phone and call. And he's giving them information every day. And then he'll bring the press in every day. And then he makes big decisions every day and he pushes back every day. And you go ahead and berate lawmakers in front of them and then you have your staff in front of you all the time. All these things take place on a regular basis in the Trump administration. You're never going to have that again. Nobody could handle it. Nobody would want it. It's too risky because you remember how close you have to hold your thoughts and words to your vest. Remember George W. Bush put an editorial out there, or somebody put an editorial out there talking about three words, three words that talked about Iraqi wmd. And these three words were debated forever. You know how many words Donald Trump uses on a daily basis that people could take the wrong way that people think is a big deal. The other thing I did is I talked to my great pool guy, Steve Hildebrand. Friend who's been putting pools in his family's putting pool for probably 40 years. And I asked him about the reflecting pool and he said there's no way automatically there's algae in there. If the phosphates are high, there's an excellent chance that people poured it in there. And he's the best in the business. And the president says five people have been arrested on the reflecting pool. And personally he doesn't see how anybody could pull up slices of the bottom of the flare oblecting pool unless it was sliced. It doesn't just pop up in pieces. Chip Roy's on. We get back. Brian, kill me. Chill. That's all the pool talk I have for today. Don't move.

[Brian Kilmeade]

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[Kate Connelly]

My focus is on winning the House of the Democrats.

[Carly Shimkus]

I'm focusing on making Hakeem speaker. We're watching closely.

[Josh Raskin]

Two open seats, seat races that House

[Carly Shimkus]

Democratic leadership hasn't gotten involved in.

[Kate Connelly]

I never said we're united as a party.

[Mike Lawler]

The challenge for us and I'm optimistic about our prospects is that we get people who've been elected around the country.

[Carly Shimkus]

We come up with a coherent agenda

[Mike Lawler]

that's totally focused on helping everyday people be able to pay their bills.

[Carly Shimkus]

So they are, these are just questions on Capitol Hill asking people, you know, who you for, you for Mondame or Keem Jeffries? I'm not saying who you for, Trump or Kamala Harris, which our reporter just asking. You can't have it both ways because you just got rid of Dan Goldman by double digit loss. Who is as bad against Trump, I think as Jamie Raskin and Adam Schiff. And that, that wasn't, that wasn't left enough, I think because he's Jewish. I mean that's your party. And then you have socialists who went to bed with the Islamic extremists who not only hate Israel, kind of hate our country, want to abolish, get this, abolish prisons.

[Josh Raskin]

Can you believe this?

[Carly Shimkus]

Chip Roy can't. That's why he will never move to New York. That's just my hunch. Congressman Chip Roy joins us now. Congressman, welcome back. I mean there's no way a Democrat can't be forced to make a decision. You got to tell me what side of the party you're on.

[Chip Roy]

Yeah, Brian, I mean, you know, look at a joke. I mean I love New York City and spent a lot of time there. My, in my youth had a good buddy of mine and played football for the Giants. Tiki Barber, a buddy from uva. Things go up there all the time. I was an investment bank anchor as a great city, but it's just getting frickin ruined. And that's the problem. And to your point, and you saw what happened with Dan Goldman. I'm glad you brought that up. I've been bringing it up a lot the last two days that this guy was crazy, right? Anti Trump impeachment lawyer. I've barred with him in Judiciary. And that guy lost 65, 35 because of where the Democrat Party is going and in particular where it's going in New York. And this is why we've got to keep our eye on the process. This is why the president cares about the SAVE Act. This is why we're trying to move things here to solidify our country, hold and freeze the immigration from countries that want to do us harm. And that's why I introduced the PAUSE Act. It's why we're working on all of these things, the Mamdani act, to try to, you know, denaturalize people that are at odds with our country. But anyway, these are all things we're trying to work through. We got to get the Senate Republicans to help us finish the job here and get some stuff done. But you know, I couldn't agree more, Chip.

[Carly Shimkus]

No one's more determined to pass things that you believe in than you, right? But if I'm John Thune, what is he supposed to do? McConnell's not budging. McCaskey's not budging. Rand Paul's not budging. I think Collins might. I forgot. I'm getting differing things from her. Not budging. I don't think. I'm not sure what Cassie's doing, but about four Republicans won't budge and that's still not enough. So it's still not enough with Fetterman. So he's still sick short. So what Democrat have you known is in anything compliant outside John Fetterman with what Trump or what you want?

[Chip Roy]

Well, a couple of points here. Number one, I have not, I've purposely not tried to throw aspersions at the majority leader because of what you just described. He's navigating a tough climate where, you know, he's got a man and three to five to six people to try to build the coalition majority. That being said, couple points, Rand. First of all, there was a vote. Mike Lee has pointed this out. We did have a vote on the Save America act and by the version that was the House version, which is the voter ID coupled with the citizenship stuff I'm obviously the author of the bill and that did get 50 votes. So. Yeah, you have 50 plus the tie break from J.D. we do have the votes on the substance. So the core question for the Majority leader is how do you force this through? And our point is just simply look, if you have the willpower to do it like they did in the Civil Rights Act. Let's remember, Brian, you're a student of history and you know the complex here at the Capitol, the written, you know, the Russell Senate Office Building. Georgia Southern Democrat Richard Russell was opposed to the Civil Rights Act. Everett Dirksen, Republican, worked with Democrat Mike Mansfield. The Dirksen Senate Office Building is another building. Mike Mansfield is a room in the Capitol. These are all rooms that the current senators are all part of or their offices. Those guys use the talking filibuster process. They work through through two, three months. We're forcing them to stay on the bill and burn through it all until they built a coalition to pass the bill. So our view is that you grind that out and that you force the vote. And look, if the Majority leader doesn't want to do that, then it's incumbent upon the Majority leader to figure out how we can accomplish the objectives in front of us when we do have 50 senators who support the substance. So if you got to tweak the rules, you got to modify the rules, so be it. Because you and I both know when Democrats reclaim the House, the Senate and the presidency, I mean, God forbid they will nuke the filibuster to pass, you know, make D.C. a state, make Puerto Rico state to pack the court. And by the way, one final point. I'm a student of. I, look, I worked in the Senate. You know this. You and I go way back. I was Ted Cruz, the chief of Staff. I was a lawyer in the Senate. I'm not, I'm not interested in totally transforming the Senate. I like having cooling saucer tools, I like to slow down bad bills. But they have to earn it, right? We've just defaulted the 60 vote threshold, which is fake. And we're gonna lose the country hiding behind something that's not in the Constitution, it's not in law. It's solely the tradition of the Senate. And they can change that tradition by ensuring that you have to go earn it by talking on the floor of the Senate. That's my advice to the leader.

[Carly Shimkus]

Okay, I will not for blowing up the filibuster. Because you are a guy, a law and order guy. I just think the Senate, you really should be earning some type of support. I was abhorred that they tried to do it last time. I'm not saying you're wrong that they would try to do it again. But my hope is there'll always be a mansion of cinema of Fetterman. To stop it. They would add two states, pack the court and get rid of the electoral college because you know it's wrong, right? You know it's wrong. Get rid of the filibuster. But just because they think they're gonna do it. But I also think you are looking at a party that's so away from the mainstream republic, mainstream American, not Republicans, mainstream Americans. I think they're far off from getting back the White House because what they believe is, is a repellent, I think for the common sense people in our country. And I just don't want to be the one to do something that's going to give us whiplash as a country. Every executive order will now be a law. It's going to be like everything that the Republican Democrat president wants will be a law. Everything the Republican president wants will be a law. And everything's going to get snapped back as soon as the election flips. I don't think that's great for the country.

[Chip Roy]

So couple points, because I think we're, we're kind of agreeing and talking a little bit in a circle about it. My point is to preserve the cooling saucer of the Senate, to preserve the filibuster. It is my view that you have to move off of the default 60 vote threshold. I'm okay with a 60 vote threshold to turn off debate. If you have 60 votes, great turn off debate. But if you have something that a majority of the Senate wants, then over some period of time forcing them to go to the floor of the Senate and debate, once they've burned up all of their debate time, then you should be able to move it. That's all I'm saying. Preserve the filibuster, but make them earn it. That's literally all I'm saying. By the way, with the presidency, I agree with you. They are back. Crap crazy. I hope they won't reclaim the presidency. We've got a good bench. J.D. marco, Ted Cruz, Rhonda Samson, all these great guys. And I think we're in good shape for 28 if we, if we deliver. But I want to remind, I don't need to remind you, but remind your listeners. Out of 100 and what, 20 million or whatever votes cast? 130 what do we. Was it maybe 300,000 votes that decide the election, whatever it is in Pennsylvania, but you know, closed states. So we've got it. That's why the SAVE act matters like it matters to the President for a reason. So we're working on it. And by the way, I want to make clear all of my anger is directed towards Democrats who are blocking doing the right thing. I'm not trying to like put a, you know, crosshairs on, that's a bad analogy. But you know, a target on, on John Thune or anybody else. I'm, I'm trying to focus on. Yes, I want Senate Republicans to deliver. It is Democrats who failed to deliver on an 80% issue. It is Democrats that forced us to end, run them using reconciliation to fund ICE and Border Patrol. They are forcing us to find every way possible to pass things because they were used to work with us. So let's just, you know, I think we should all remember that.

[Carly Shimkus]

So, so Congressman Chip Roy, our guest, obviously Congressman, has any Democrat walked up to you and said, if you just give me voter id, I'm in. Or you know, the mail in ballots, for example, Oregon I think has never had anything but mail in ballots. So if we get rid of mail in ballots, there are certain states that actually do mail in. Right. Florida counts on the same day. You know, could there be, could you ever go up to it? If there are any Democrats that you know of, it would be the Senate side that say, if you just give me this and get rid of trans men and women's sports, we do that another time. I'll pass it. Does anyone say, I'll work with some text?

[Chip Roy]

So two things for everybody out there because it gets confusing. There are two versions. So there's the Save America act that we passed out of the House and that only focuses on voter roll citizenship and voter Act. The president wanted those other things added. As you talked about men and girls, bathrooms and sports and then the, the issue of mail in ballots, which by the way, I support all those policies. So that was added in a version that I think Eric Schmidt filed in the Senate. The President has said he wants that version and I respect that. I want all those policies too. I don't think that version can probably move through the Senate.

[Carly Shimkus]

Gotcha.

[Chip Roy]

The one that we've got 50 votes on is the House party pass Save America Act. And to your question, yes, there are Democrats that if you privately talk to them, will tell you that they support voter id. They are unified in trying to thwart the President and thwart us having a successful passage of this bill that I think they will continue to hide behind their fake talking points that women will get disenfranchised and all of that because I think Hakeem has decided I'm going to throw everything, I added this and I'm going to hold Democrats together to oppose it. If we had a clean vote on just voter id, we probably could break the back of them. But then you don't get any of the fixes to the voter rolls and ensuring that only citizens are voting. Right. A lot of states will give IDs to non citizens. So we're going to try to keep working to fight through it. But I got to be honest with you, a lot of my Democrat colleagues, look, I've worked with them on a Congressional stock trading ban, a couple of other issues, but man, they, right now they're locked in and they're just, they're trying to stop and thwart the President between now November.

[Carly Shimkus]

But they did do the housing bill.

[Chip Roy]

They did, they did. Now partly, I mean, look, I'm one of the ones who voted against housing bill because they had to buy the Democrat votes. It has a whole bunch of spending on Section 8 Housing and Public housing.

[Dennis Ross]

Yeah.

[Chip Roy]

So that, you know, I couldn't support that. There were some good feel like French Hill did a great job. Republicans fighting to try to get some of the streamline permitting and other things, things that are better. But you know, to buy those Democrat votes, it was expensive. So that's part of the problem in working with Democrats right now.

[Carly Shimkus]

Congressman, you have this guy, James Talarico running for Senate that people say is the golden child. For example, they love. I like Wesmore, man, he's so impressive. Look at his background. Turns out his biography is half fiction. And then you have Beto o'. Rourke, wow, what charisma. He's going to be the next president. And then we find out he's made of paper mache and he loses twice. And then you have James Tallarico. Look at the talent, look at how eloquent he is. But then we find out things about his background, how many genders then wearing, you know, what his thought was during the pandemic. Then this emerges from 2021, cut 28.

[Jeff Lax]

I always think of myself as a Christian who hates Christianity.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Right.

[Jeff Lax]

And like I always get, always get

[Carly Shimkus]

drawn back into it.

[Jeff Lax]

It's very strange every time I think about it that the, the most popular figure in our country, particularly on the conservative right, is this, you know, socialist anarchist from ancient Palestine.

[Carly Shimkus]

That's how he describes Jesus. So is that going to Help him.

[Chip Roy]

Socialist, anarchist. I mean, it really is astounding and you know, to say you hate Christianity. And you know, he's going to say, well, you know what I mean? I mean I love Jesus, but I really don't like the modern church or whatever. He's going to come up with all these things, try to make excuses for his just radical ideology that is dramatically out of step with the Texans. Of course, now having said that, Brian, like we've got to work it to win the election. Like, you know, because the media is not going to help us. You know, tell Rico is going to run a lot of polished commercials and you know, look, a lot of voters, you know, they get mail, they get commercials and they vote based on that. They're not fully informed. Right. Your listeners, you and me, 5% of the electorate, we eat, live, breathe, sleep, this stuff, we pay attention. So yes, I expect Ken Paxton and others to run ads with all of these clips of him saying crazy things. But you got to get it through and seep in. I'm going to get independence, definitely Democrats and all Republicans and we got to turn people out. So we got to work it. We got to raise money, we got to work it. We can't assume anything. And by the way, there are other Senate seats that we got to look in North Carolina, Ohio, Alaska, Iowa. You know, these are all seats we're going to have to go fight for. And you know, it seems crazy, but we're going to have to do it. And some of them are currently, you know, showing dead heats or even behind. So we got a lot of work to do to retain the Senate and the House so we can deliver, deliver alongside the President.

[Carly Shimkus]

I mean the thing is his presidency, he's not going to get one person confirmed if they lose the Senate. And the House is still gettable partly because the Democrats have put so many crazy people up. But Talarico in particular, I mean, this guy is just a bizarre guy. Listen to this. Cut 29.

[Josh Raskin]

There have been attacks on your masculinity,

[Carly Shimkus]

on lies about your sexuality. Paxton has even begun to call you Low T Talarico.

[Josh Raskin]

What's your response to that?

[Carly Shimkus]

Honestly, I had to look up what that meant. I don't think guys my age are really concerned about that kind of thing. Is that an area that needs to be plowed? I mean that they seem to be calling Talofrico all types of different nicknames for him. Is any of that landing you're in Texas?

[Chip Roy]

Well, you know, I remember there was. There's something that caught A little bit that landed in similar vein was, you know, he put this picture of him driving a pickup truck with this non broken in hat where he just looked so staged. Where, you know, he's, he's clearly not, you know, it's just like he's a rancher or something like. And I think, you know, he's going to try to project. It's like this whole thing with barbecue. It's like, oh, I love barbecue. He, he's just not Texan. Right? He's not, you know, you know, and I'll say, well, I'm seventh generation. I'll say, okay, whatever. But that's not, that does, that's not what makes you Texan. Like Davy Crockett and Sam Houston. They weren't born in Texas, but they are Texan because, you know, you're fighting for what you believe in and standing up for, you know, the things that. My great, great grandfather was a Texas Ranger, Brian, and you know, fighting Comanches in the 1870s, I mean, you know, you had to earn it. And that's the kind of Texans that we want to have leading. And Talarico is not bad. I think this stuff is going to shine through. But again, you can take nothing for granted. We've got to get it in front of voters and we got to have turnout.

[Carly Shimkus]

Yeah, I mean there's, there's Iowa is going to be tough. This is going to be tough. Keeping Ohio is going to be tough. So there's going to need a lot of money, but you guys do have a lot more money than the dnc. Thanks so much. Chip Roy, Congressman, thanks so much. Appreciate it.

[Chip Roy]

Thanks, Brian. God bless you. Appreciate you, brother. Happy birthday to America next week.

[Carly Shimkus]

Absolutely. Hope to see you in Washington.

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[Alexi Lalas]

I think it matters tremendously for the mentality, the psyche and most importantly, the momentum for this team that has grabbed a hold of the imagination of America. To continue that, to continue to bring people into the tent, to continue to prove that they are worthy of our time. It's also an opportunity for a lot of these players that maybe haven't been starting to get their opportunity in the World cup and for history. We've never won all three games in group stage. I'm, I'm a greedy man here, Brian. I want all three wins. I want us to make some history and then go in with all of that momentum.

[Carly Shimkus]

And after watching Mexico play last night, they also did not need to win. Saw how well they played in a very tight game with the Czech Republic. I think they have a new name now, but it was a really good game. I mean, it was really fun to watch. And I just think that watching them play as hard as they can and not worry about anything and then score three goals in the second half, that has to be the message that Punchaccino tells his team. The other thing I just selfishly want to see is how deep they are, because there's going to be a tomorrow, win or lose, go to the finals, whatever it is, they're going to have to change out. Especially, you know, you got guys like Tim Ream, 38 years old, old. So people are going to age out of this. How good are these other guys? And when else are you going to get to see them play together? And, man, wouldn't it be great? You have 26 men on the roster. You play 11 at a time. I'm not saying sub the goalie. You got to keep Matt, freeze sharp. But wouldn't it be great to see these other players say, look at me, and then see how deep they are. And then the coach gets a look at what players can be counted on in the clutch. Next game will be Wednesday against Bosnia.