The Far-Left is Devouring the Democratic Party From Within

Summary

Podcast Summary: Brian Kilmeade Show – "The Far-Left is Devouring the Democratic Party From Within"

Host: Brian Kilmeade (FOX News)
Date: July 6, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of the Brian Kilmeade Show provides a dynamic blend of patriotic reflection around America’s 250th anniversary, up-to-the-minute coverage of World Cup soccer controversies, and a deep dive into domestic American politics with a focus on the Democratic Party’s internal struggles with its far-left wing. Kilmeade brings on a variety of guests—including soccer legends, historians, military experts, and political commentators—to dissect both the big global stories and how they hit home for Americans as the nation reflects on its foundational ideals.

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Key Discussion Points & Segments

1. America at 250: Historical Reflection and Patriotism

Timestamps: 00:15–06:56, 35:21–42:13

• Kilmeade and Lawrence Jones discuss the importance of commemorating America’s history throughout the entire 250th year—not just on July 4th.
• Ken Burns and Douglas Brinkley offer perspectives on how the Founding Fathers would view modern America:
  • Quote (Ken Burns, 03:09):

    “They'd be totally impressed in lots of ways... shocked at how much rights have been extended... And I think they'd be incredibly impressed at what we've been able to achieve and see the levels of division that would seem familiar to them and be disappointed in us that we hadn't figured out what the larger thing was.”

• Discussions on the drive to continuously strive for "a more perfect union", the role of self-improvement in American identity, and the importance of civic education (e.g., reading the Declaration of Independence).
• Quote (Lawrence Jones, 04:26):

  “If you're looking for us to be perfect to celebrate the country, you got it all wrong. It is the striving to get to that perfection.”

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2. World Cup Fever & The Baligun Red Card Controversy

Timestamps: 06:56–15:00, 16:00–18:39, 38:49–47:01, 93:15–108:57

• Soccer becomes a major theme as Kilmeade dives into:
  • FIFA’s controversial red card suspension of US forward Flo Baligun, the successful US appeal, and the resulting backlash from Belgium.
  • Expert analysis from Landon Donovan, Kobe Jones, Coach Pochettino, and Michael Goodman.
  • The growing American interest in international soccer, sporting upsets, and emotional team moments at World Cup matches.
  • Discussion of the differences between US and global soccer cultures, with particular reference to celebrations and sportsmanship.
• Quote (Landon Donovan, 39:44):

  “In the end, they got the decision right. Flow should have never been sent off. The great news is Flo is back. I think justice was done.”

• The debate on the legitimacy of the appeal, referencing FIFA's own Article 66.4, and prior precedence with Cristiano Ronaldo.

Notable Moments:

• Kobe Jones on Haaland (98:39):

  “He wasn't doing a whole lot within the game. It seems like he wasn't moving much, but when he got the ball in that final third, he was a threat every single time.”

• President Trump’s involvement is debated—a recurring theme in World Cup drama as well as politics.

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3. The Democratic Party’s “Far-Left Takeover”

Timestamps: 47:01–58:13, 76:41–84:51

• Michael Goodman, Nicole Malliotakis, and caller Susan discuss:
  • The impact of Democratic Socialists and figures like Hasan Piker on the party’s image and internal unity.
  • Recent elections seeing socialist candidates win, concerns about anti-Semitism, and the establishment’s response (or lack thereof).
  • Implications for Republicans in the upcoming midterms.
• Quote (Michael Goodman, 47:01):

  “It's being devoured before our eyes. It's being taken over by the socialists, the far leftists. Many of them are anti-Semites. So it's already changed the character of the Democratic Party. Even though it's a relative small minority within the party.”

• Discussion of strategies: moderates like Governor Josh Shapiro (PA), Fetterman, and Richie Torres as examples of intra-party resistance or adaptation.

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4. Foreign Policy Challenges: Iran, NATO, and the Strait of Hormuz

Timestamps: 19:06–34:23, 86:59–91:44

• Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery brings an expert’s lens to recent turmoil in Iran, the implications of the Ayatollah’s funeral, and shifting power in the region.
• Concerns about NATO unity, German rearmament, and defense negotiations.
• Debates about American military might, energy security, gas prices, and the risk of Middle Eastern conflict spilling over.
• Quote (Rear Adm. Montgomery, 21:33):

  “In the IRGC senior leadership they were hawks and vicious hawks... their hawkishness is driven by the fact that they think they have leverage.”

• Potential for military vs. diplomatic solutions to Iranian provocations, and the President’s strategy on the matter.

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5. Civic Engagement Projects and Youth Education

Timestamps: 57:33–62:42

• Caitlin Bledsoe highlights the “Declaration Project,” a campaign getting 110,000 Americans to read the Declaration of Independence.
• Themes of restoring civic pride, engaging the next generation in American history, and the counter-narrative to “America is broken” pushed by some progressive candidates.
• Quote (Caitlin Bledsoe, 62:16):

  “With the socialist and progressive candidates... we’re seeing... this anniversary is bringing people together more so than ever.”

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6. Broader Reflections on Patriotism, Unity, and Leadership

Timestamps: 78:03–84:51

• Dakota Meyer, Medal of Honor recipient, shares reflections on patriotism, unity through sport, and the unique opportunity to travel and appreciate America’s freedoms.
• Discussion on the dangers of taking national blessings for granted and the importance of teaching younger generations not only the challenges but the greatness of American ideals.
• Quote (Dakota Meyer, 83:08):

  “The commitment we all have to make, no matter what happens with the administration... is that we will be proud to be patriots and we will never compromise the fact that we are an American first.”

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Notable Quotes & Soundbites

• Ken Burns (03:09): “They'd be totally impressed in lots of ways... at how much rights have been extended to people.”
• Doug Brinkley on Franklin (05:23): “He would have been stunned by the technological advances... That innovation spirit's a big part of the United States.”
• Nicole Malliotakis (71:17): “Our freedoms [are] just one generation away from extinction... we need to go into the schools and bring people who fled, like my mother fled communist Cuba...”
• Jonah Goldberg (64:54): “There is this logic from the DSA left that makes this thing that says... treason is the highest form of dissent. It makes no sense. It's garbage.”

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Additional Segments & Timestamps

• Soccer culture, fandom, and economic impact: 41:17–42:48
• Historical anecdotes (Washington’s escape, Jim Brown’s patriotism): 72:13–86:18
• Final thoughts on the Trump administration & American identity: 66:03–67:59, 84:51–90:33

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Episode Tone & Style

• Fast-paced, energetic, and patriotic.
• Blends robust debate with story-driven analysis and personal reflections.
• Moves seamlessly from sports to history to politics, maintaining a conversational—often humorous—tone.
• Emphasis on American resilience, civic pride, and optimism even when covering contentious or controversial topics.

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For Listeners

If you missed the episode, this summary gives you the key takeaways—whether you care most about the fate of US Soccer, the future of American politics, or why America’s history matters today.
You’ll hear the spectrum of opinion from political insiders, sports legends, military strategists, and everyday Americans, always with a bent toward solution-seeking and robust civic debate, not division.

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Note: All timestamps in MM:SS format for reference. Skip ad breaks and station identifications; content relates directly to main discussions.

Transcript

[Brian Kilmeade]

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sewing division, it's Brian Kilmeade.

Hi, everyone. So glad you're there. It's the Brian Kilmeade show. We're back in studio now after being at Liberty Island. I shouldn't say Liberty Island. Liberty Park.

[Lawrence Jones]

Right.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So it was just great to be there on Friday and then Saturday just to see the backdrop of the Statue of Liberty, see all the tall shifts and see the flyovers and be a part of America's celebration. But I never thought, Lawrence, that it was all about July 4th. I always thought the year 2026 would be the. Would be about. I'm just trying to silence my TVs. What do you think it could be? Does I get the other one?

[Unidentified Producer/Technician]

Here we go.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I always thought there was going to be the whole year. It's just the birthday, but it's the whole year. Remember the decoration started. We're already fighting. We're fighting in 1775.

[Lawrence Jones]

That's right.

[Brian Kilmeade]

We're frightened. And by the way, after Bunker Hill, doing a lot of losing.

[Lawrence Jones]

Correct? Correct. I just think this is. Obviously, it should be the whole year, you know, people's attention spans. We aren't Americans at the same time. And it's hard to keep people's attention throughout the whole year. I know we at the channel, we're gonna be celebrating it all year. And I think we should because our kids need to understand a lot of this history. And it's hard to do that just in one week, Brian.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yes. And I think they're really gonna understand it October 13th when the United States comes out.

[Lawrence Jones]

Right.

[Brian Kilmeade]

That's my.

[Lawrence Jones]

Now that was a plug right there. By the way, we just revealed the COVID last week.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah, that was very nice you to hold that up. I tell you, the COVID took a lot of work because usually it's just one battle.

[Unidentified Producer/Technician]

Right.

[Brian Kilmeade]

You know, the, you know, the Battle of New Orleans show the battle. Just pick the picture. Pick the painting, rather. You know, with Sam Houston, the Alamo Avengers. Pick the, you know, just tell me the. Tell me the battle. You want George Washington Secret 6. You know, should I put the spies on the COVID or not? That was a bit. But this was different. I go, guys, it's not just about fighting Louisiana Purchase. You know, I bought to massacre, but it was a massacre, but would happen after. So that's why a lot of.

[Lawrence Jones]

So what did you use? Did you use Sharpies, pastels, pencils?

[Brian Kilmeade]

I used existing pictures, but just decided would make the cut.

[Lawrence Jones]

Okay.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I didn't create anything.

[Lawrence Jones]

Okay.

[Coach Pochettino]

I didn't.

[Dakota Meyer]

I didn't.

[Coach Pochettino]

We put.

[Brian Kilmeade]

We did the wavy flag in between the three pictures.

[Lawrence Jones]

It's like a collage.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah. So over the weekend, they did some specials on other channels.

[Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu]

Yep.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And Ken Burns was featured with us. I had. I had Douglas Brinkley and just talked about what they thought. And I know I'm going a little bit backwards, but just what they thought about the country back then. So Ken Burns, I thought, really put it in perspective, because Ken Burns sometimes can be a little negative.

[Caller Susan]

Right.

[Brian Kilmeade]

But listen to this question, and I just love his answer. And this is a guy that just did the Revolutionary War series, which is phenomenal. Cut 33. What do you think? The Founding Fathers, the people who saw this during the American Revolution, would think they could see this country today, this country, this democracy, democracy that they fought and gave their lives for.

[Ken Burns]

They'd be totally impressed in lots of ways. They'd be stunned, maybe, and shocked at how much rights have been extended to people and glad about it. I mean, George Washington knew slavery was wrong. Thomas Jefferson knew slavery was wrong. And the scholar Annette Gordon Reed said, how could you continue with something if you knew it was wrong? And she said, instead of throwing Jefferson out, she's an African American scholar. She says, well, that's the human question for the rest of us. Like, do we act on flaws of our own? Yes, we do. And so it's a generous idea. And I think they'd be incredibly impressed at what we've been able to achieve and see the levels of division that would seem familiar to them and be disappointed in us that we hadn't figured out what the larger thing was.

[Lawrence Jones]

I love that. And I heard something similar on the Sunday shows with the head of the Smithsonian. And I know there's some back and forth with the administration, but he said something I thought that was important. He goes to founding documents, in a way, are perfection. And he goes, each generation, we try to be more perfect. But he goes, in a way, we never are going to achieve that perfection. But it's the striving to get there that's a part of it.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And a lot of times you need to fight, you got to fight.

[Lawrence Jones]

And there's some back and forth. But he goes, if you're looking for us to be perfect to celebrate the country, you got it all wrong. It is the striving to get to that perfection.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And the thing is, too, sometimes you get so caught up in your own family story, your own team story, your own state story, you say to yourself, am I marketing this. What I did was I basically marketed to am I being bought? Did I buy the commercial? Am I Or am I sticking to the facts?

[Lawrence Jones]

That's right.

[Brian Kilmeade]

That's why I was thinking about doing a book and I got backed off on it and I kind of regret it was what are the founding. What were the founding fathers thought the future was going to be like for us? They say, well, Brian, I don't know if there's enough for a book there, but really these guys are always futurists. So I found this quote from Benjamin Franklin. He says, our cause is the cause of all mankind. We are fighting for their liberty in defending our own. So I threw that at Doug Brinkley last night, an esteemed historian. And here's what he said. Cut 37 Franklin.

[Douglas Brinkley]

You know, I was thinking about him over the weekend a lot. I mean, he would have been stunned by the technological advances before that. Great fireworks in D.C. you're seeing those lightning bolts coming down. And it made me remember as a kid his experiments with electricity that you'd read about in kids biographies and all. But now imagine what he would think of AI or, or Google or Apple or you know, anything of the technological revolution or that we can, you know, do heart transplants and, and have, you know, GPS instead of having to have a compass to try to be a surveyor. So Franklin was our scientist, inventor, experimenter. It gets sometimes on the fourth that side of them, but that innovation spirit's a big part of the United States.

[Lawrence Jones]

I think Franklin, if he was here in modern day time, would be annoyed with the defeatist mentality that we're feeding to our next generation. But not surprise. I think that he witnessed people not being accepting to some of his inventions as well as the society. Doubtless defeat his mentality, but I think he would be really annoyed with many of the adults in the room pushing that on the next generation. And I mean like AI and other different advances.

[Brian Kilmeade]

It's so interesting. Walter Isaacson did a biography on Elon Musk and Benjamin Franklin. Right. And he thinks they're comparable, you know, in terms of what they were able to do.

[Lawrence Jones]

I agree.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Everything from the fire department to the wood burning stove.

[Lawrence Jones]

That's right. That's right.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So it was amazing what he was able to do. So I want to talk about something else that I never in a million years, in all the years I've been at Fox, I've never talked this much soccer period. In fact, last time we had the World cup they said, Brian, if you don't mind, you're the only person in the building that likes soccer. So we're gonna be bad on you. I go, really? The world likes soccer? Oh, we don't care about the world. Things have changed, obviously. So we just know that there is a ruling that came down that overturned Baligun's ejection from. He was ejected from the Bosnia game, but he was supposed to be kept out of tonight's Belgium game. FIFA looked at the cause and looked at the play. Realize one of the reasons after US Soccer petition with legal. They realize you're not allowed to play back a foul in slow motion because it takes away what the referee can see in slow motion. It's for a referee if he misses the play. Right. So they reversed it now letting him play tonight. Now, we just learned when we started Fox and Friends that Belgium is now appealing the appeal. So they got it in in time. So we'll wait to see if FIFA is going to allow Baligan to play tonight. The world is upset because again, America's. They think they did us a favor. Here's what Coach Pochettino said. Cut three.

[Coach Pochettino]

Well, happy for him. I think it's a fair decision,

[Unidentified Producer/Technician]

but

[Coach Pochettino]

not too much time to enjoy because I think it's to prepare the game. And we know that tomorrow is going to be a massive challenge for us. Belgium is a great team with great player, great coach. And what we need to do is to be focusing in our game, in be sure how we approach the game tomorrow and perform. That is what we need. The most important is that he was connected during the week training and feeling part of the team. And now, you know, it's our decision being available is to select or not to select.

[Lawrence Jones]

Never stop training. That's the moral of the story. No matter what they say, he didn't

[Brian Kilmeade]

commit to starting them.

[Lawrence Jones]

That's exactly right. That's exactly right. And that's the true coach. I will say this, Brian, with my elementary understanding of soccer now, because I've been doing a crash course. You know, when I get invested in something, I start studying. But the foul should have never happened to begin with. I'm sorry. The red car should have never happened before. And I think that's the one thing. Also, a lot of people are bringing up the Ronaldo situation as well. So don't try to make it. It's America versus everybody else. Lastly, Brian, I think this is good for the sport. This only brings more attention, more to the game and gets more Americans invested. And as you can see by this World cup, it's good for the Game overall.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Well, I'll tell you, Lawrence, I'll make one prediction here. If they win, he's scoring.

[Lawrence Jones]

Yes.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Because he is their scoring threat.

[Lawrence Jones]

Yes.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And you can't. They have tried to stop him.

[Michael Goodman]

Yes.

[Brian Kilmeade]

But he's so quick and lethal in the box and they know how to feed him. What I'm wondering is this the game that Pulisic emerges because, you know, a lot of times his impact is made in open spaces and he'll give the assistance, but he hasn't been the guy up front because he's much more effective. But he's not the solo guy up front, up top. So my question is with everyone. They're going to bow again. How do we stop this guy? Do we finally get our attention off the AC Milan forward?

[Lawrence Jones]

Well, real quickly, Bryant, you see how the conversation has changed to the. The state of play. At first, America had no shot. Yeah, but that was the storyline. I know we're the home team, but we. Let's not talk about the center play. This is just one ride. And now you got another team fighting to keep our best, best player on the field tonight.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So yesterday I was at the Norway game, and it was. They beat Brazil two, nothing. And by the way, I know Brazil missed penalty kick and hit their second one. Two penalty kicks in one game. But they were not the better team. I kept saying, as soon as. If they go up on nothing, it could be over. But they were not the better team. This guy Holland, he's Drago. He's Drago from Rocky 4.

[Lawrence Jones]

He's next level.

[Brian Kilmeade]

He's 6, 4.

[Landon Donovan]

Right.

[Brian Kilmeade]

He's 210, 215. Runs like the wind is great in the air. They bring him back on defense to make sure the bull doesn't go in, you know, be able to head it out. And then I'm watching him, he's kind of walking the whole game.

[Michael Goodman]

Yeah.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And then I'm with Dawn and she's like, he's exhausted.

[Kobe Jones]

Yeah.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Hand on his hips. But he wasn't.

[Lawrence Jones]

He's not. But he shows no emotion in the middle of the game.

[Landon Donovan]

He scores.

[Lawrence Jones]

But after the game, all of it just. And it's like, where was this guy? He's a big kid the whole time.

[Brian Kilmeade]

He's a big kid.

[Lawrence Jones]

Right. By the way, the guy loves America too. You saw the guy got his boots, got his hat.

[Brian Kilmeade]

He loves Texas, he loves Dallas. So he does. So I love this way. The one thing I hated about soccer is when they. They did this new thing is when you score, you run away. From your team.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

I hate it.

[Brian Kilmeade]

What?

[Unidentified Producer/Technician]

What?

[Lawrence Jones]

Okay, so what is it about that that you hate?

[Brian Kilmeade]

Because you do it as a team, especially in soccer. You're not playing tennis, right? So you, how many people fed you the ball? It's like you run back to your guys, right? You're running away from your guys, but

[Lawrence Jones]

the gu to you, Right, Right.

[Caller Susan]

I don't know.

[Brian Kilmeade]

It's just, just my thing. I know, I know, I know. It's. I'm in minority until I watch Holland. This guy, oh, he turns around and he looks at his guys, goes, look, I scored. And they all jump on his back and he's like, okay, I love it.

[Lawrence Jones]

It's the mental. It's the delivery, I think for you.

[Brian Kilmeade]

He's like, of course I scored.

[Unidentified Producer/Technician]

Right, Right. But.

[Brian Kilmeade]

But like he's with his guys and he walks back. So I just, I just loved it. I loved that part of it. And then last night the game was delayed for weather, but you watched England beat Mexico at Azteca Stadium. I don't think they've lost here in 10 years with that high elevation, which got everyone exhausted. So they win 32 up 3 1. They hold on despite a penalty kick. They hold on and win 3 2. So they'll advance to play Norway next.

[Lawrence Jones]

What's your major prediction? Is there going to be another major upset or.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Sure, yeah. I mean, England played better than they did so far. Anytime in the tournament, they did in ones with adverse conditions. Evidently they were playing the drums and had a full band playing outside England's hotel to keep them up all night. And they said, no, we had a great sleep. We weren't really start. So. So I think that I'm willing to sit back and say, I don't know, but when Cape Verde almost beats Argentina, right? I'm done with the experts. I'm done with the experts. Tell me what's possible.

[Lawrence Jones]

This, before we go. Is. Is this just because I want to know if I'm being fooled right now because I never gave soccer a shot until the World cup, right? Am I gonna, Is this just a World cup thing? After this is over and I watch a normal soccer game, am I still gonna feel this excitement or will be tempered?

[Brian Kilmeade]

No, the thing is that what people have said. I've never got into the international game heavily, but all my friends have and who are not a lot of non soccer players. It's a Premier League. They watch the Premier League.

[Lawrence Jones]

A lot of my buddies do.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And now, yeah, they're up at 6 in the morning. They go to the sports bars at 9am and they're watching the premier leagues. That's why they can identify almost every player. Yeah, they're like, yeah, it might, yeah, it might be Morocco. It's a small country really. They have like nine players playing top level. So that's why. But Kate Verde, biggest surprise, the guy, a 41 year old goalkeeper that drives a bus. Like, how does it happen stopping Messi,

[Lawrence Jones]

how does that happen?

[Brian Kilmeade]

It's incredible. So you got these stories. So I was in, I was in a restaurant. I go, okay, am I going to miss Cape Verde, Argentina?

[Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu]

So what?

[Brian Kilmeade]

All of a sudden I found myself and go, guys, no offense, I think Cape Verde just scored. I'm like, it is one one. And then I'm watching them go up two, one. I'm like, okay, they're going to win it. Cape Verde forces overtime. And then overtime they score. It was unbelievable.

[Lawrence Jones]

Everybody's game.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And then you watch the forward run into the stands and hug his wife.

[Lawrence Jones]

See, that was.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Come on, man. This is fantastic.

[Lawrence Jones]

It's such a family atmosphere. I just really hope as a new fan that I get to experience this not just doing the World cup because it has been fascinating.

[Brian Kilmeade]

There's only so much time of the day. Can you take on another sport?

[Lawrence Jones]

I know, it's just great though.

[Brian Kilmeade]

All right, so. And Lawrence, we know on a lighter note, the President's going to NATO to talk with Turkey and talk to our allies. And then we see Iran have the Ayatollah have his funeral that never ends, chanting death to America.

[Lawrence Jones]

Yeah, with the Houthi rebels, right?

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah, with the Houthi rebels who decided to try to take a ship in the Red Sea on Sunday. A little bored. The good news is the ship had gun gunmen on there security people to shoot at these guys, so they backed him off. All right, we covered a lot of great.

[Lawrence Jones]

Yeah, yeah, I'll see you tomorrow.

[Brian Kilmeade]

All right, Lawrence Jones, back in a moment.

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[Brian Kilmeade]

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You might have seen this. The Internet has gone wild, making memes of Flo Baligun one, upping the ref's red card. There's this one where he's using The Uno reverse card.

[Landon Donovan]

There's this one which is flow using

[Brian Kilmeade]

his get out of jail free card from Monopoly. And then of course, the card that is actually closest to the truth, the trump card that is. And they know what they had to his golden visa. You know, the golden visa you could pay for. But Baligan is going to play today and we're talking about that tonight. And I think now people are getting into it. I don't think it's bad for the game at all. I just think there should be an appeal process that was clear. You know, there is a scenario where the appeal that Belgium's putting forward is not meritless because there's a few things that are out there. It was reported earlier when everyone was saying how ridiculous it was that the red card happened. They said, is there appeal process? So I talked to somebody who knows. I can't give attribution, but says there is no way to Appeal per article 66.4 of the FDC of the FIFA manual. So the disciplinary code, Belgium will say 66.4 says no appeal.

[Douglas Brinkley]

Okay.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Problem is Cristiano Ronaldo, 41 years old, most second or first most famous player ever currently in the world, certainly got a better body than me. Came out and he got suspended for punching a guy or elbowing somebody in the face. And they gave him a red card. Means he's out for two games. Would you imagine he would have missed the first two games of the World Cup? They suspended this suspension.

[Nicole Malliotakis]

Come on.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So now it's unprecedented. My feeling is it should have been appealable right away. And I think if I'm U.S. soccer, I would have just put it out. I would have just said, hey, we're appealing this. We got our lawyers on this. This matters a lot. We had to spend. We had to finish that game with 40 minutes. There's been punishment already, but now we have to get him back on the field. Because if you look at the play in particular, they watched it back in slow motion. They said, you should not do that. You should look at a foul in real motion. If you have to look at it again, look at it again. But do not slow it down. And slow down. An offside call or the goal scenario if the ball went over the line or not. But not this. When we come back, some serious stuff. Real admiral Mark Montgomery's been noticing the Ayatollah has his like two week funeral. The 86 year old, we killed him in the first. In the beginning of the conflict, they're chanting, death to America. When this thing resumes, Are they going to look to keep control of the strait? Because I think they think they have control of it now. Mark Montgomery, next.

[Jonah Goldberg]

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[Brian Kilmeade]

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[Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu]

Look, Iran is a nation of about 90 million. About 80% of them hate this regime and would like to see it gone. But you still have, you know, quite a few million, a minority that they can bring to the streets. And what do they shout in the streets? They were shouting death to Trump. Death to me, of course, but death to Trump. We have to kill Trump. Death to America. This is what is the face of this minority that has taken over, hijacked this talented people, the Iranian people, the people who fight for freedom have been massacred on the streets for freedom. I think that if the Iranian people were given a chance, they'd throw these bums out.

[Brian Kilmeade]

That is the prime Minister Netanyahu this morning with me on FOX and Friends. He was speaking out. He also went on to say, and I'll play a little bit later about Turkey, really concerned about Erdogan. Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery joins us now, senior director of the center for Cyber and Technology Innovation for Freedom of Defensive Democracies. Admiral, watching, you know, through interpretation, the ayatollah's burial that goes on forever, I was kind of shocked to see Qatar and Saudi Arabia send delegations there. They trying to make amends. Do they know who's been rocketing their bases, our bases, over the last few months?

[Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery]

Well, I mean, they'll claim part of it said it's a clerical position. But the reality is they've always, I mean, even the UAE in the past, I think they tempered from it this time, you know, kind of make sure that they maintain relations and maintain access. And so I think there's some of that there. But I was glad, you know, from my point of view, I'm not surprised by either one. I'm particularly not surprised about Qatar. They're about as, as transactional as a country can be. So, you know, that doesn't shock me. I hope at the same time they're building really good counter drone interceptor defenses because a Iranian missile and drone is coming to a piece of critical infrastructure near them very soon. And they need to be ready to defend themselves so they can go to this funeral. It is going to have no effect on whether they get struck by Iran in the next two to three or four months.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So the Washington Post has this story today that this next group or a bunch of lieutenants and people that were in the field in the past and they are much more akin to being aggressive than the ones that we wiped out. And the foreign minister and president have been pushed aside of late on the decision making. Is that what you hear?

[Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery]

Well, certainly we, when you, we did remove the top shelf people who had had a history of negotiating, not with good intent, mind you, but negotiating with us over time with the actual IRGC leadership. It's not that we pulled a guy from the field, it's that we pulled a guy off the sidelines who I think was harder, you know, as hardline. I don't think in the IRGC senior leadership they were hawks and doves. I think they were hawks and vicious hawks, you know, and maybe we have slightly more vicious hawks now, but we shouldn't fool ourselves who we kill. The reason, you know, the death of those leaders is not the cause of their hawkishness. Now, their hawkishness is driven by the fact that they think they have leverage. Do they? They, they do have. So not on the nuclear, interestingly, they normally like rope a dope. They had leverage on the Obama and Biden administrations where they negotiated because we want to deal on nuclear, you know, on uranium, you know, on, on the 440 kilos and all that. But under this, under President Trump right now, he's not in a hurry on that. He has an election in November. And so you, if you told, told me there were four 60 day extensions to the current talk, I would say Trump's okay with that. Now come next January or February, there'll be a new Trump, you know, one who's no longer constrained by a domestic election cycle and maybe will force some force their hand. Where they do have leverage is the straight Hormuz. When they come out of this funeral week, you know, they're gonna look and go, boy, the, that imo Oman route, that what I used to call the southern, you know, transit scheme closest to Oman is allowing out a good amount of oil, you know, crude each day and a little bit of LNG and some fertilizer. And when you combine it with the work being done by the Saudis and the UAE through their pipelines, you know, we're starting to be able to you know the supply chain has restored especially given the reduction in like Chinese usage and a few other places around the world. Supply chains restoring and in fact within if they don't change facts on the ground the Iranians we're going to start refueling strategic reserves around the world.

[Unidentified Producer/Technician]

Wow.

[Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery]

To get back up.

[Brian Kilmeade]

But will that stop the price of gas from going down? Because they're re. Because they're resupplying themselves.

[Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery]

At some point we do have to do that. Yeah. At some point. What it does is meters it okay now gas in the United. You know, you know we don't actually export you know we don't actually import much gas. It's a very limited amount of a specific refinement but it impacts us a little bit. But currency price does the crude price does drive you can eventually see it in our gas tank. So yes what it's going to do is temper the go down. But the president's been right. I mean he was a lot of economists said he was wrong about what would happen to gas prices at the termination of the war. And the president's his you know spider sense for this was smarter than the than the economists in general. So I'm not going to disagree with him right now but but I do think refilling does as you alluded to has an impact on the declining in prices.

[Brian Kilmeade]

It's $3.80 a month. 422. So Admiral, you wrote this column that I think is important about what you think could take place and what should be done for NATO. Obviously there's a lot of friction there and NATO I understood was a little a little disconcerted that we struck without telling them. But having said that I was disappointed you probably more realistic that they haven't even offered to step up whatever their resources whether it's clearing mines or whether it was helping escort through the strait. And they have no in fact some of the negative comments from the president of the chancellor of Germany dismissive and the lack of using our bases has caused it a rupture. Do you think that there's a scenario where NATO we come out NATO comes out stronger from this latest summit in Turkey. I believe we'll get him back. I just have this sense because it's Admiral Mark Montgomery. I think we just froze but I'd hate to give up on it. I could tell we froze. We lost him because we're streaming this and you'll see it later. Well at least unless we get him back you'll see the portion that is not frozen but what I'm referring to is a column that he wrote is really quite interesting in the New York Post today. And he said the first order of business would be spurring European investment in defense. And when they talk about getting everybody to 5%, now we're at 3.5%. Reagan was at 5%. And Reagan was spending less. Like $500 million, $500 billion. We're at $980 billion, and we gotta get to 1.5 trillion, Mike. Oh, my goodness, what a waste of money. It's not a waste of money. The percentage of our gdp. We're making so much money now, and the dollar's devalued somewhat, that we need the 1.5 trillion, let alone to get the golden dome. Admiral, just want to get to the scenario. I don't know if you heard the question, Is there a scenario that you see, that you can script that we would. That NATO would be stronger at the end of this Turkey summit?

[Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery]

There is. I'm glad you brought that up. And the context you gave was fantastic about, you know, how we're recovering our defense budget. But we were never a freeloader. We were always, you know, we got, you know, we came down to 3%, but our 3% was still like 850 billion. So, you know, we deserve a lot of credit for that. President Trump deserves a lot of credit for leaning on him. I think the key is Germany in this summit. Germany has stepped up. They've actually increased production. They're doing defense industrial base, and they're not being rude about it. They're going, look, we want to do it with American companies. You know, the French are fairly, you know, are like, we need to go build a defense industrial base without the United States. The Germans are like, no, no, no, we need to build our industrial base with the United States. So the Poland and the Baltics already in the green column. Right. You know, 5% plus taking Russia seriously. You see Romania coming up, the countries that are close coming up. Now you see Germany, the President and Secretary General Rutte and Secretary General Mark Ruth has been a fantastic NATO leader. Need to focus on the countries west of Germany, France, the United Kingdom, Spain, Italy. Italy, actually, to her credit, she's been increasing real increases. The French, though, are still under 2.1% with promises they'll get it in the future. So the president should lean on them. Spain is an outcast here, saying they're never going to come to 3.5. And then the UK he needs to talk to, unfortunately, he's going to be Talking to Keir Starmer, who's on his way out. But their defense budget has a weird like $5 billion unpaid for defense bill in it. And the incoming Prime Minister is not going to like trying to figure that one out. So I have to see what happens. So the answer is he can, I think he and Rutte and he should let Ruta take the lead in beating on the Europeans. Russia does a really good job of that.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So Admiral, we're just looking, let's say that when the funeral's over and the 4th of July is done and the President gets out of NATO. Give me as to how you think this whole scenario with this MoU, which has got so many problems with it, I mean, whoever wrote that up when this is all said and done, should never be involved in a negotiation again. But having said that, but how do you see this playing out through the summer?

[Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery]

I think if Trump takes control of this, because you're right, whoever negotiated this did not go great. First of all, he'll let the nuclear rope a dope. I think he's okay with that. You know, just let that bounce on. It's the straight where they're going to, they're starting to realize that the southern route is killing them, you know, letting the oil through. And if they start to strike and there's two ways they can do it, they can just go straight at the ships, the merchant ships, and see if we'll defend them. Or second, they can create angst in Lebanon, you know, have Hezbollah do something, get Israel to strike them and then say, well now we're striking Arab partners in the United States. And they could, in other words, they can impose costs that way, make it painful for oil to flow through. And I think the President's got to be ready to, instead of just doing proportionate counter strikes, do disproportionate counter strikes and focus them on the Bandar Abbas area. Taking out drone, small boat mine capabilities. Anything we found, you know, we've been studying it for eight weeks now. We did a 40 day war. We're now studying the battle damage sediments and we're going to figure out how to, how to take that stuff out. So I think we could see some kinetic action and you know, that'll affect gas prices. But the President's been really good at making of metering that, keeping it temporary, keeping it down. We'll have to see what happens though when the Iranians push harder.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Here's a quote from the Iranian spokesperson. We took advantage of the ceasefire, improved our capabilities, updated our target bank. If we are attacked, we will over. We will have an overwhelming response. You're shaking your head no.

[Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery]

I mean they still have the look. Their ballistic missiles did not do a lot of damage. Patriot and Thaad and the Navy standard missile systems and Israeli arrow worked 90 plus percent, maybe 95 plus percent. Where we sucked was drone defense. The Navy survived it because the Navy can get range, depth, move back and have their planes come in behind the drones and shoot them down. Israel, Jordan, western Saudi Arabia, no problem because you're distanced. You can shoot down the drones with aircraft, with these cheap $25,000 rockets we have. What's not protected is Bahrain, Qatar, UAE and Kuwait and eastern Saudi Arabia. And those countries have been working with Ukraine to get counter drone interceptors, ground based ones. Our bases need to have those. Now most of our stuff's moved, moved west. We are not going to get, we're not going to have AWACS struck on the ground again. That's just not going to happen because we've positioned ourselves, make strikes a little longer. But we are not going to be in a position where we get struck hard. So things will be different. The Iranians really have to target private building, you know, residential buildings to get any kind of impact.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Admiral, lastly, just on Ukraine, I'm in awe of what they've been able to accomplish and withstand. How bad is Russia right now? We've seen those video of the lines, the fights, we've seen another refinery get blown up over the weekend. We find out there's massive gas and oil shortages and now we've stopped allowing them to sell oil on sanctions because we have a seat with the mou, with Iran. What are they going to talk about? The President's going to talk to Zelensky, he's going to talk to Putin. What do you think is going to get done or what could get done?

[Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery]

I think the President. I'm headed back to Ukraine next week for a couple weeks of training and I agree with you. My take for the last year has been they're not going to lose on the ground. Now they're imposing costs with medium range and long range strike. Medium range are taking out the logistics of the Russian army. So the Russians can't really plan good fights. Long range. They're taking out the oil refining and distribution. I think Putin, I think Trump needs to turn to Putin and say, look, Zelensky's got the cards. You're going to have to come off your maximalist demands and we'll help you negotiate a graceful as possible way out of this. Otherwise you are not going to win and I'm going to bring economic pressure on you. The President could do that. And that would, I believe that would bring Putin. Putin needs some kick in the backside to get to the table and make a reasonable offer. He has not done that.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Admiral. I think the President's getting bad information from Putin himself and some people who don't like Ukraine on his staff. Because when I do talk to him, he's always saying, no, they're losing ground. I go, Mr. President, they're not losing ground anymore. I mean, you got to see what's happening. So I just hope that we. That the he looks at the Institute for the Study of War and talks to people, you know, because there is that things have changed.

[Michael Goodman]

Yeah.

[Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery]

ISW like I'm on the front line. It's 99.9% accurate. It is as accurate as you as American intelligence. It's great. Jack Keane has it exactly right when he talks about it. We absolutely. Ukraine is not losing this ground fight. And I'm not a big fan of them going on a big ground offensive. I think that placement risk, they're really losing a lot less people. The personnel exchange rate is really dropping off from one to three. One Ukrainian for three Russians to one to six. You know what I mean? They're really doing fighting smart and wise. A little bit of economic support from us in terms of economic pressure on Russia could really help turn the tables at this point.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah, get a missile defense. All they want is some more patriots faster. They deserve it. They need those and they deserve it. They are now the best army pound for pound in Europe and people should learn from them and they want to help other people. So please stop putting down Ukraine. You've really on the wrong side. Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery, you're on the right side. Thanks so much.

[Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery]

Thank you, sir.

[Brian Kilmeade]

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This will always, for all of human history, you know, if I'm making a film, you know, 200 years from now, which I won't, it will be. We will be talking about wars and political violence. But we have a system here in which we have at least the recipe to pull out the fuel rods of anger and distrust and hatred. The question is, for Americans right now, as we approach this glorious moment, 250 years, the oldest democracy on earth, do you want to continue to cook with that recipe or do you. Can you be as authoritarians always do, convincing you it's better if everything's ordered or that our story is only one people and not other people? The whole story is this unbelievably wide variety of people who improbably come together. That's the headline.

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And it doesn't mean we didn't argue. Aaron Burr, my goodness, shot Alexander Hamilton. We have countless duels and fights. And Adams never spoke to Jefferson or stayed for the inauguration. And Quincy Adams didn't stay for Jackson's inauguration. And there was Jackson accusing Quincy Adams of. Of conspiring with others to make sure he didn't become. We had this all along, always. Teddy Roosevelt going after his protege, William Howard Taft, in order to get the nomination. When he couldn't get it, he blew him up. Not physically, but blew up his political fortunes. We always have had this, and my goodness, a civil war. That's what Ken Burns did. Ken Burns just said, let me look at this. This is amazing. I did the Civil War, now I'm doing the Revolutionary War. It's amazing what they did and what happened afterwards. Everybody wanted their freedom and it became aspirational and it got underlined with each war and each conflict. Every time we get in a fight and we have a polarizing or controversial election, like in 2000 or 9, 11 attacks or the first Trump win when they made up some Russia scenario where he didn't really win. And after he lost in 2020, everything's the worst ever. Got to get a perspective. And the real blessing has been seeing the world. Look at America. Who's not auditioning, we're just living. And they're saying, this place is amazing. We needed to hear that. You know, you get used to your own house when someone comes over and goes, wow, I love your front door. I love that backyard. You go, well, maybe it is nice.

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[Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu]

Number three, look, Iran is a nation of about 90 million. About 80% of them hate this regime and would like to see it gone. But you still have quite a few million that they can bring to the streets. And what do they shout in the streets? Death to Trump. Death to me, of course, death to America.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Burying the ayatollah. But what's next for Iran's regime, which still lives? I talked to Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu when we previewed the NATO summit, where a lack of support, a lack of support for us in Iran will be on Trump's agenda.

[Dakota Meyer]

Number two.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

And I expect our party over the course of this next year or so to go through a battle about what we believe in and then come out unified in a way that we can take the fight to the other side and really deliver for the American people.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Right? Governor Josh Shapiro. Socialists taking control of the Dems. As Hakeem joins the extremes, the GOP now has a path to surviving the midterms.

[Landon Donovan]

Number one, I love it. In the end, they got the decision right. Flow should have never been sent off. The great news is Flo is back. I think justice was done. And let's go.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Landon Donovan, one of America's finest, now a broadcaster, weighs in on the Titanic decision by FIFA, rescinding the red card ban of Flo Baligan, allowing him to play tonight against Belgium outrage in the Belgium camp. We recreate how this decision came down and look at England's stunning win in Mexico against Mexico in Mexico and Norway dominating Brazil 2, nothing. I was actually at that game. Michael Goodman joins us now. Michael, I don't think about you in soccer, but have you noticed the World Cup?

[Michael Goodman]

Hey, thank you, Brian. Yes. You know, my, my love of soccer up to now has been limited to when my grandson is playing. I never played myself. It was not popular when was young. But I must say you beat us to it, Brian. You beat the, you beat the country to a level of soccer. And it must be a pleasure for you to see the whole country, you know, taken over by this mania.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah. And just, you know, some people, like I was talking to Dave Portnoy at barstool and he says, brian, when, when this cup is over, we're going to ignore soccer again. I gotta think so. But I mean, it's okay, you know, and, but the thing is, what I think most encouraging is non soccer players, you know, sports fans are watching and I thought to myself, I see a guy and they'll go, yeah, I'm watching soccer. And I go, did you play? No, I'm going, we really. So you still watch?

[Michael Goodman]

Okay, that's me. I mean, my wife and I have been watching virtually every game we can and we're enjoying it. We're commenting back and forth on along with other people. But what's going on? What just happened? What was that ruling? Why are they ruled that way? But nonetheless, the enthusiasm of the crowd is really contagious.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And I just think it's an important time for our country, celebrating our birthday, to see our country reflected through their eyes. And we're not trying, we're just living.

[Michael Goodman]

Absolutely.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And they're just coming up going, wow, I love this place. And these people are so nice and that. And I went to four games already and there is not a bit of violence or anger and you know how passionate people are. They're not. I'm watching a stadium full of two thirds of which were Brazilian fans. They were getting crushed by Norway. They lose two, nothing. There's no anger and living amongst each other. So I think it's a, it's just been a win. Win.

[Michael Goodman]

Yeah. And it's amazing to me when you contrast it with American sports. You watch a baseball or football game, a lot of people are wearing the team jerseys or something like that. But in soccer, it seems to be a requirement to wear the jersey of the team you support. I mean, it's really something. And to think about, people travel from around the world to get here for these hotels, stadium tickets. I mean, it's quite an Expense that people have made. So this is a huge economic footprint all over America.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So I want to bring you to the controversy right now, which is, I think, more up your alley. We have a situation where the US Got their lawyers, the US Soccer, and said, this Flo Baligun should not be thrown out of this game. And you guys watch this video replay in slow motion. You're not supposed to. It's supposed to be real time. You just. If you miss the call, that's what it's for. If you have offsides or there's a problem with it, with the ball over the line, that's different. But when it comes to a foul, you shouldn't, but you did. So they petitioned and they plow into play tonight. Now, Belgium two hours ago complained vociferously, and now they've appealed the appeal. So that is add drama to this. Last time they played, it was 5, 2, Belgium 1. Now, all of Europe is mad at us for this, too. They're saying America is messing with the world's game. So now it becomes something bigger than just a soccer game.

[Michael Goodman]

Right. And of course, Donald Trump is at the center of it, I must say, Brian, when the suspension was first put out and then explained what it went to, jail, I thought, this is Trump. Trump is going to get involved here. He has to. Right? I mean, it's his nature, but it's right up his alley. And look, I must say, what the whole event has done is, to me is to kind of cast something of a pall over the enthusiasm, because it's got, like, a bunch of lawyers now. And that's, of course, the antithesis of what we look for in sports. Clarity, winners and losers. Right. Not an explanation is required. So I think this is right up Trump's alley. And look, look, if I were him, I would have done the same thing. If you can do a gentle persuasion. He didn't threaten to deport everybody unless he got to ruling. So he did it the right way.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah, and there's a. You know, I'm seeing. What Belgium's going to say is, if you look at the FIFA rules, they say Article 66.4 says you're not allowed to. You're not allowed to appeal a suspension. Okay, then why did you do it for Cristiano Ronaldo? He's supposed to be out the first two games of the tournament, and you put him in, so you allowed him to play. So you can't. You can't have it two ways.

[Michael Goodman]

No, that's it, David. There's always been some Precedent. And then you didn't. They didn't design this and they didn't take away the red card. They simply suspended the suspension. And Wayne Rooney, the Brit great, was talking about, you know, how they were trying to negotiate with him at one point over a red card. This. It would be lifted. If he didn't do that, it wouldn't be lifted. So it went beyond just your conduct on the, on the game. It went into, what do you do next? What do you do afterwards? So it does seem very loyally and very political on Viva's part.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And all I can tell you the reason I'm talking to Michael about it, not only because I care about it, but I kind of. I would move it to the back burner if I didn't know 30 million people watched the last game. 30 million. I mean, you got to be kidding me. And that, that's a field of 32. You know what it's going to be like tonight in the field of 16?

[Michael Goodman]

Well, that's right. And think about it. Here we had the Knicks, which was must see tv.

[Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery]

Absolutely.

[Michael Goodman]

And the World Cup, I mean, there's been quite a run of events.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I will say this too. If they do win, he's gonna score. There's no scenario where he's not. I want to talk about something else. That's New York, but beyond, and that is the rise of socialism. People are on the President for including that Communism, socialism talk. It's not, it's not, not political. It is a fact. We have the rise of socialists. You saw one just won in Colorado, beat a woman that's been in the office since 97. And then you have Hakeem Jeffries now kowtowing to the socialists, welcoming them aboard, even though that he was lobbying for two others that lost. And then you have Chuck Schumer also flipping with Platner. He was going for the sitting governor, Platner's Association Socialist. So now he's going for her. So you have a big breakup. What's happening now in the Democratic Party? Would you want to put it in context?

[Michael Goodman]

Well, I think it's being devoured before our eyes. It's being taken over by the socialists, the far leftists. Many of them are anti Semites. So it's already changed the character of the Democratic Party. Even though it's a relative small minority within the party. These numbers have ceased. May be a maybe 15. But of course, Mamdani in New York, the mayor sends a warning signal that this could be the future of the blue cities. Right. They could all flip to socialist mayors. And how long until you have a socialist governor? But even before that, Brian, you have the influence of lawmakers in the state and city and of course, in Congress. So it doesn't happen overnight. It's a gradual erosion.

[Coach Pochettino]

Yeah.

[Michael Goodman]

What the old Democratic Party used to stand for at some point, you know, like sandcastle. The water keeps laughing at it, and finally the whole thing collapses. That's what I think. We're in the. In the beginning of the early stages anyway, of what is happening to the Democratic Party.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah, we'll see. By the way, Donald Trump's talking about the red card now in the Oval Office. Well, with the Trump account and Michael Dell, who gave all that money and everybody else whose idea was with the Trump accounts there. So it's pretty cool. We'll see what happens. I think the less he talks about, the better. Leave it up to FIFA. I think they made the right decision. So I look for people like James Carville came, says, time for a schism. I've seen other people say it's time for a schism. Bill Clinton, I have no problem with that. Barack Obama sings Wheels on the Bus with Mondami. Here's Governor Josh Shapiro, who many people think is a moderate on Dara Lisa Abelia Chevalier, who won her with our scenario of disbanding prisons, opening up our border and hating America. Cut 12.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Her district voted for her, but I have profound differences from that particular candidate, you know, based on the citations that you read there. And she's not someone, you know, who seemingly I would agree with on many things. Her that we share similar values. She ran on the Democratic ticket, I guess, as a socialist. Her voters in that district determined that she was the one they wanted representing her.

[Brian Kilmeade]

That exactly. Get out of my party, is it?

[Michael Goodman]

No. But what's interesting to me, Brian, is that Pennsylvania, right. Shapiro, as you say, considered a moderate. You have Fetterman and McCormick in the Senate. Two very reasonable. I was say, Fetterman has become my favorite Democrat this year, in the last couple of years. And McCormick is very sensible as a Republican, very mainline. So the three of them, in a way, are very unusual. Shapiro, McCormick and Fetterman, when you look at, say, New York's governors or California's governors and senators, they're very, very different. New Jersey even has gone more and more or less. So think it is interesting to see this is happening state by state. How the different states and the different leaders in each state handle it will be somewhat different.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So Hasan Piker is the podcasting spiritual leader of communists and socialists who hates America and seems to be supporting the the Senate candidate for Michigan, Al Asseed, Abdul El Aseed and then Platner and all these other people who are socialists. He didn't get Richie Torres if people don't know he's pro Israel. He is a liberal Democrat. But Richie Torres stood up to the socialist entities and stood up against the Columbia riots, against the Jews. And guess what, Hasan Piker, who thinks he's I guess, involved in wrestling somehow, he says he's coming for him next time. He said, enjoy your two years cuz I'm gonna knock you out next time. This is a Democrat against a Democrat Democrat. We're not talking about an angry Republican. So this guy Hassan Piker, I mean between him and Bernie Sanders and aoc, they are the power of the Democratic Party.

[Michael Goodman]

Look, I agree. And the question, Brian, is are they the future or are they somehow fish out of water? I think that's still to be determined. But part of the answer will come from the Richie Torres who happens to be my congressman. And, and he, as you say, he stood firm against this sludge that the socialists have dinned up against the Democratic Party. And I think that if Richard Torres can survive that, then that will be an inspiration to other Democrats who don't like the socialists. So look, one election at a time, this battle will be fought out for a number of years.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah, and I think it gives the Democratic Republicans the first real shot at the midterms of bucking tradition in history because they can legitimately play that card without saying we're exaggerating. Because you could say, well, I'm a moderate. Well call out the rest of your party because if they get in power, we're not going to recognize this country. Whereas opposed, when a conservative comes into power, go, go to the right. Liberal gets in power, you go to the left. If you get an extremist, a socialist in power, all these crazy New York policies will be national policies.

[Michael Goodman]

That's right. And look, you know Brian, when this started a few years ago, I think of Elon Halmar Tlaib and others in that initial wave, AOC and the Democrats did not push back. Nancy Pelosi in the House, where most of them were, didn't really push back and neither did Schumer in the Senate. And so, so they kept him in the party. They kept him basically organized in the sense that they voted for all the Joe Biden bills even though they said they didn't go far enough. He didn't destroy America in order to Save it. So that kind of rhetoric didn't stop Schumer and Pelosi and others from welcoming them into the party. And now the tent is spoiled. Now there are so many of them that it's a real revolution within the party.

[Caller Susan]

Got it.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Mike Goodwin, thanks so much. Check out his columns in the New York Post. Have a great day, Michael. Appreciate it.

[Michael Goodman]

My pleasure. Thank you.

[Dakota Meyer]

Brad.

[Brian Kilmeade]

We are back and the president's taking all questions about the FIFA red car. Now with everything going on in this world, the only thing stupider. And I'm a soccer guy, you know, ask you a question, move on. But I'm a soccer guy too. But they just think they're going to make the president look bad on the world stage. He's not. He doesn't care. But number two is the other thing was watching George Stephanopoulos have Doug Burgum on yesterday and talk for 12 minutes about the reflecting as if there's nothing else going on in the world. Brian Kilmeade Show.

It's Brian Kilmeade. Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kilmeade Show.

[Unidentified Producer/Technician]

I understand sports really well. Really well. And that wasn't a foul. That wasn't even an infraction. That was two guys running full speed that happened to crash into each other. You can't take your foot and properly place it on somebody else's foot when you're going, no. These were two great athletes that got tangled up. And this referee, who is a little bit suspect if you check his. If you check his past, I don't want to say that because I don't like to create controversy, but. But very suspect. If you'd like, I'll provide you with the past.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah, the past is in 2023 is accused of game fixing in Brazil. But he was never charged, but that is. And he was good enough to get into the World Cup. Remember, the referee didn't make the call. This was called the AR got into his headset and said, review this. We think it's a red call card. And the referee looked at in slow motion and red carded Baligan. He's gone. They go out and win in the last 35 minutes and score an extra goal. And they advance. But now he got reinstated three hours ago. Belgium asked for an appeal of the appeal after expressing astonishment with the reversal and said, I thought it was not Fourth of July. He thought it was April Fools. It wasn't. But the one thing you get from all people is I shouldn't have been a foul to begin with, all right, we're going to come back and talk, talk about what's happening with these Trump accounts and so much more. You listen to the Brian Kilmeade Show. We're also going to be looking at the economy and the president's big Oval Office meeting,

The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian kilmeade.

Hey, welcome back, everybody. It's Brian Kilmeade show. We're just watching the president, United States is taking questions about the Trump accounts. And believe it or not, all the networks are taking it. And I'm wondering why, you know why? Because they're getting his response about the red card, the role he played. And I'm not sure he had any role. They had U.S. soccer moving forward. And there were lawyers with the, there's a White House commission to help the World cup, to organize a World cup with and Giuliani supervisors, there's lawyers with them. But the president, United States, of course, he weighed in.

[Coach Pochettino]

Good.

[Brian Kilmeade]

This is not a red card. It's one of this controversial thing going on right now. But this is a decision this FIFA along with U.S. soccer, and that's the petition. But now Belgium has a chance to overturn it again. Caitlin Bledsoe joins us out on a different note, spokesman for the Americans for Prosperity. Caitlin, welcome.

[Caitlin Bledsoe]

Hi, Brian. Good to see you again.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So first, what could you tell me what'd you think of the festivities over the weekend? The weather couldn't stop us from celebrating, but it was delayed.

[Caitlin Bledsoe]

The weather couldn't stop us from celebrating. I was lucky enough to be in town. I wouldn't have missed it for the world. And it was phenomenal. I mean, seeing the crowd of people that were on the National Mall prior to the weather, I think they said it was over 400,000, which is phenomenal. But the best thing is the amount of people who came back following. You know, it just goes to show you people really wanted to be part of the celebration. And that fireworks show was absolutely stunning. Very well done. To Freedom250 and everyone who organized, organized.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And as we put it's not over yet.

[Unidentified Producer/Technician]

Right?

[Brian Kilmeade]

I mean, this is, this is, this is the punctuation because it's the actual day. But we're doing stuff the whole year.

[Caitlin Bledsoe]

We're doing stuff the whole year. AFP certainly is doing stuff the whole year. We've been lucky enough to be part of the Great American State Fair, which is still going on for a few more days. We've had over 15,000 people visit our installation. So if you're in town. Come, come by and see us.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I did. And we were there broadcasting there. Was there Saturday night, night. And I was there, I believe Sunday and Monday and Tuesday of last week. But just looking back at some of the scenarios, we were just talking about some historians who had a chance to put America with the idea of America. Sometimes you get caught up and you wonder, am I just cheerleading for my home team or are we really a unique nation? So number one economically, number one militarily, save the free world. Besides that, I can't really think of accomplishments. But then you have people who put in perspective what we've accomplished. And look at what Ken Burns had to say when he was asked about the types of people and the scenario in which this country was created. I don't know if you've seen his Revolutionary War series, but it's unbelievable. Cut 36.

[Ken Burns]

This will always for all of human history. You know, if I'm making a film, you know, 200 years from now, which I won't, we will be talking about wars and political violence. But we have a system here in which we have at least the recipe to pull out the fuel rods of anger and distrust and hatred. The question is, for Americans right now, as we approach this glorious moment, 250 years, the oldest democracy on earth, do you want to continue to cook with that recipe or do you, can you be as, as authoritarians always do, convincing you it's better if everything's ordered or that our story is only one people and not other people. The whole story is this unbelievably wide variety of people who improbably come together. That's the headline.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Well put, right?

[Caitlin Bledsoe]

Absolutely well put. I couldn't agree more.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And the thing is, we've always been in a situation where we're always pulling at each other.

[Lawrence Jones]

Other.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Jefferson and Adams, you know, John Quincy Adams and Andrew Jackson, you know, you have, you have people saying the most horrible things after the Civil War that you could imagine. We had the great compromise which led to segregation. So we have always had stops and starts, but we always try to move forward and make ourselves better. I think that's underappreciated. We've become a self regulating people.

[Caitlin Bledsoe]

I think you're exactly right. And when we were together last Monday on Fox and Friends, you were kind enough to have us on to talk about our Declaration Project. And our goal was to get a hundred thousand individuals to, to read the declaration before July 4th. And I'm excited to share, Brian, that we did. We, we actually exceeded our goal to 110,000. And I bring that up because the. The clip you just played, the point you just made,

[Brian Kilmeade]

We just froze again. We'll get it right back. It's no problem. But the one thing we were getting to is they have this project where since it's America 250, they encouraged everyone to read the Declaration of Independence and then go online and tell them so. They had the Great American Fair, which was right behind us, for Monday, Tuesday, and throughout the day. But you would tell them about the Declaration Project. And Kaitlin Bledsoe, you were just talking about how many people actually joined you in that effort.

[Unidentified Producer/Technician]

Effort.

[Caitlin Bledsoe]

Yes, we were. We had a goal of 100,000 individuals to read the declaration on or before July 4th. And you asked us when we were together last Monday, if we. We thought we'd be able to reach that goal. And I'm excited to share. We did. We actually surpassed it. And I bring this up because with the socialist and progressive candidates that are ramming the airwaves through with really false narratives about how terrible this country is, we're seeing and hearing the opposite. We're seeing that this anniversary is bringing people together more so than ever, and wanting people, or people are wanting to become more civically engaged and seeing numbers like the 110,000 reading the declaration or like the 15,000 people coming by the Great American State Fair and doing activations in our booth. People really want to be part of the future of this country. And I think that's so important to underscore right now.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah, I think so, too. What about the fact that the. The Founding Fathers, a few years ago, we were talking about, well, the Thomas Jefferson and George James Madison and George Washington, well, they had slaves. So they have to be. Their statutes gotta be taken down, and we have to apologize for that. So we have a scenario where there's a whole bunch of people who wanted to do that. Thankfully, people understand we're not a perfect people or perfect country and that we didn't invent slavery and slavery was there. What we did is get rid of it and fight a war to make sure of it. But then we got this clown mayor in New York City who used his. The George Washington's original desk when he was president in New York City. He uses it to make a speech denigrating a country that gave him this great opportunity. Cut 28. The powerful have always known their answer. America, in their view, is an arena

[Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery]

of supremacy where only a select few

[Brian Kilmeade]

are allowed freedom, where not all are created equal. America, if you ask them, becomes less

[Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery]

the more people it welcomes, America, they

[Brian Kilmeade]

will tell you, belongs only to those with the right accent or the right shade of skin. At every moment in our past, those who led through exclusion and isolation have tried to win power and enrich themselves by turning us against one another. Division is the oldest trick in politics and the cheapest. You believe this guy while speaking like this, talking about the dangers of division,

[Caitlin Bledsoe]

it's pretty unbelievable, especially when he's also putting out things like we have to have 70 degrees thermostats. It's just these things are incredibly unrealistic. And when you actually talk to people, I know there's a lot of primaries happening right now. We're seeing these candidates emerge. But when you actually talk to individuals who are going to be part of the general electorate and not just these primaries, these ideas, when you talk to them about these ideas these. These individuals are pushing, they're not supported or at least not widely supported. We also saw this in 2024, where there was an overwhelming trend that bucked these types of policies. But anytime claim that the narrative is this prominent, we need to be concerned.

[Lawrence Jones]

I know.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I thought it was interesting that Jonah Goldberg, who's often critical of this administration, said this when he heard mondami say that cut 29.

[Jonah Goldberg]

This whole idea. Look, I think dissent is good and it's an important right. Free speech is an important right. The right to petition government, all that kind of stuff. But there is this logic from the DSA left that makes this thing that says, you know, patriot. Dissent is the highest form of patriotism, therefore treason is the highest form of dissent. It makes no sense. It's garbage. He is playing into all these code words about how this is a bad country, that it's ruled by elites that keep people down. And I just. I think he gets a lot of free press because he's charming and a good politician.

[Brian Kilmeade]

He does. I've never seen anybody get better press. I mean, outside President Obama.

[Caitlin Bledsoe]

That's right. A lot of them do, though. I mean, look at the aoc, look at Bernie Sanders. They get a ton of oxygen right now. And I just keep going back to. We need to really think about why these narratives are spreading the way they are. And ultimately, people are concerned about the economy they're feeding into it. And conservatives really have to double down on the same type of cost of living strategy. But that are free market, and that actually makes sense for our economy and American growth over time.

[Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery]

Right.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And getting gas prices down is key. And that now is down to $3.80 and that's why the Trump accounts, I think are a great start. So get people involved, give them an understanding of the market, have their get their sheets once a month and see how their money's growing. And Michael Dell in the backdrop saying I'd like to help. And here's how putting $250 billion, whatever he is some extraordinary number into this. This and Micron is doing the same thing. Do you like the idea of the Trump accounts?

[Caitlin Bledsoe]

I do. I think it's excellent policy. It's setting our youth up for success. And this is something we should be touting as a good rebounds to these socialistic policies.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah, I guess we'll see where it goes from there. Thank you very much. Caitlin Bledsoe doing a great thing at everywhere the Declaration of Independence, that next step, the Constitution. We'll get to the end.

[Caitlin Bledsoe]

I love that.

[Brian Kilmeade]

All right, Caitlin, go get him. Appreciate it. 1 866-408-7669 now, just building on what we were just saying with, with Caitlin a little bit among the people who were critical of President Trump. I watched this whole speech. He had a few ad libs at Mount Rushmore, of course, delayed because of the rain hail, I should say. And then he had a few ad libs, but he was not talking politics. Yeah, he brought up, I think something about the Save America act. All right, 10 seconds. But when he was talking about communism, socialism, there is a danger in that. We fight a cold war for that. So Chuck Todd, just a port. I really don't miss him on Meet the Press, but thought he was really important for him to tell everyone how upset he was at Donald Trump's president. Cut 31.

[Douglas Brinkley]

I feel betrayed as an American by him on this Constitution is not perfect, but it gives us a way to keep going. It gives us structure for disagreement.

[Brian Kilmeade]

It gives us a method for repair. It gives us the possibility of becoming better without pretending we were always good. May it make some of the same promises that some religious texts do for people.

[Douglas Brinkley]

And this is why I'm so pissed off.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Not because I love the country less,

[Douglas Brinkley]

but because I love the idea of America enough to resent seeing it cheapened by this man. America deserved better at 250. Someday I believe it will get better. But it's in your hands.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah, we, we hope to live up to Chuck Todd's standard. I don't know if it's possible, but it's a goal of mine. Absolutely. Let's hear more from Bernie Sanders because talk about how the whole country is for oligarchs are you insulted by that? You insulted by the rise of Mondami who just sat on George Washington's desk and told everyone what a terrible country it is for the elite white people. You're not upset by that? Are you insane? Here's more from Jonah Goldberg, who, by the way, is extremely critical of the president. Maybe 80% of the extremely bright, by the way, and he's a great guy, but he's extremely critical of the president. Cut 29.

[Jonah Goldberg]

I think he's full of crap, flat out. Look, this is a guy who fuels these people who are dividing New Yorkers about AIPAC and Jews. Constantly he defends the people who does it. I don't think it's, I mean, I could be really puckish and say it's not an irony that the guy is talking about American exceptionalism in that earlier quote, a coin actually coined by Joseph Stalin. But the fact is that I think American exceptionalism is real. And the way he describes America there I think is divisive. It's playing into class. Classic class war nonsense.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And he was talking about Mondami. Now I, on Saturday we did Fox and Friends and I said, are we going to play any of this? And the producer said, why are we doing that? It's such an upbeat day. Why we and I agree for Saturday, but I wanted to bring it up now because this guy is mayor of New York City and he gets a lot of attention and does he smile when he talks? Yes, but listen to the words he says. He is so divisive and so negative and his view of the country and of law enforcement and of prisons and of ice, everything is really negative. I mean, you center left, center right. And by the way, it's unbelievable that Bill Clinton would take time to put out a letter ripping Trump, Trump and not lurping this guy, in fact saying it's no big deal that he's a socialist. Same thing with President Obama singing Wheels on the Bus to a bunch of 2 year old 3 year olds instead of saying, wow, you know, the whole socialism thing is really not going to fly with most of the country. Instead he says, let me help you. I'll be an advisor so you can beat Governor Cuomo, right? I'm not a big fan of Governor Cuomo, but so you can beat Governor Cuomo and I'll always be there for you after you win. That's not what I would do if I was worried about my legacy and my party. 1-866-408-7669 we'll take some calls before we close at this hour. Or you can write [e-mail] keep in mind I'm going to be in Pensacola, Florida on Saturday night, this Saturday. So I want you to get tickets. I want to meet you in person. Brian kilmeade.com history, liberty and laugh streamed on on Fox Nation.

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[Nicole Malliotakis]

Ronald Reagan warned us of this. He said that, you know, our freedoms just one generation away from extinction. And so it is incumbent upon all of us to ensure that we educate a young generation about what exactly socialism and consciousness communism is. When you look at the election results and who actually voted in some of these races, it was as little as 7% of the Democrats and they were young, white. And these are individuals who we need to go into the schools and bring people who fled, like my mother fled communist Cuba so they actually understand what it's like elsewhere and why people come to the United States for opportunity.

[Brian Kilmeade]

That is Nicole Malliotakis, one of the few Republicans left in New York City. They're trying desperately to redistrict her out by screwing up the district and stopping it from actually representing anything in Staten island, which if you don't know, around the country is considered very Republican. Susan, you're in upstate New York. Hey, Susan.

[Caller Susan]

Oh, hi, Brian. I'm very fired up this morning about Mamdani, also with adding insult to injury, sitting at George Washington's desk. And he did reference that George Washington, the first battle of Brooklyn almost was captured. But you know, oh, just oh, yeah, he got across the river. Yeah, he got across the river with the Maryland Marbleheaders, who were a very Diverse group of 500 men. And they that was a treacherous, treacherous escape. And by the hand of God, the whole British navy was sitting just up the river and it was a clear day. But the thorn came, a fog came that allowed them to get across the river and Washington to escape. I mean, we almost lost the war on the I think it was August 30th or something, 1776. He knows nothing about our history. He knows nothing about the men that founded this.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And you would think, Sandra, oftentimes first generation Americans are the most patriotic because they're so relieved to get here and they have to pass patriot. You know, they have to pass the citizenship test, which makes them study history. And we I don't know what they're teaching in 5th and 7th and 11th grade these days when you Usually study American history. Sandra, you're right on the money. I love your knowledge. I wrote about in George Washington Secret 6. If case you think Sandra is expanding on it or expounding on it. This is an eyewitness, which is Benjamin Talmadge, who was right by George Washington's side, said the sun was coming up and they were trying to evacuate across the east river into Manhattan and get out before the British knew it because they knew they were about to be annihilated and a fog rolled in so thick you could not see your fingers on your outstretched hand. That was written in a book in 1820 by Benjamin Talmadge. So those are some of the miraculous things that happened during that war. And he would rally again across the Delaware, take out the Hessians and win that Battle of Trenton, then win the Battle of Princeton, go to Valley Forge, recalibrate and get some more troops in. And little by little, they would battle back to bridge British until they surrendered at Yorktown. That's part of anybody who's an American listening to us right now. That's all that's yours.

[Caller Susan]

Your.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Your heritage, your story, you could choose to ignore it or you could read about it and take pride in it.

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division, it's Brian Kilmeade.

[Unidentified Producer/Technician]

All right.

[Brian Kilmeade]

From 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan. Brian, kill me, Joe, thrilled to be with you. Thanks so much. I appreciate everybody watching the coverage over the weekend. We were on Saturday night. I was lucky enough to go down to Washington D.C. and be with Sean Hannity, Dana Perino, great Harris Faulkner as well as Brett Baer and Laura Ingram and was able to go over America to 250, put in perspective what we've been through. There was really no script. It was cover it, cover it. Music's good. Go to the music. President speaks. Go to the president. Music was really good. But then we got delayed for 45 minutes and then we had to run for shelter because of the lightning strike. We were in a metal building, metal contraption. So we went there. We were talking TO World War II veterans and celebrities like Gary Sinise and Jim Caviezel. Was fantastic. Matt Dougherty, fantastic player for the, for the University of North Carolina with the Michael Jordan, member of the Michael Jordan and James Worthy era. So was able to talk to him. Was really great. Bottom of the hour, we're going to talk to Kobe Jones about the World cup scenario. He's a American legend and now he's turned into a fantastic Broadcaster Dakota Meyer, a Medal of Honor recipient, was going to be with us shortly. But first, let's get to the big three.

[Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu]

Number three, look, Iran is a nation of about 90 million. About 80% of them hate this regime and would like to see it gone. But you still have quite a few million that they can bring to the streets. And what do they shout in the streets? Death to Trump. Death to me. Of course. Death to America.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Absolutely. They are enemies. Governor JOSH. The buying bearing, the Ayatollah. What's next? We watched them go from city to city to city, and they're chanting and promised the assassination of President Trump.

Trump.

Now we go to the NATO summit, which we accomplish there. We're pretty angry at our allies. They're angry at us. Is NATO going to be weaker or stronger when this is done? Number two.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

And I expect our party, over the course of this next year or so, to go through a battle about what we believe in and then come out unified in a way that we can take the fight to the other side and really deliver for the American people.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Governor Josh Shapiro. He's going to run for president. You just know it. Governor of Pennsylvania. Socialists take control of the Democratic Party. Akeem Jeffries joins the extremes. The GOP now has a path to surviving the midterms. Number one.

[Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery]

I love it.

[Landon Donovan]

In the end, they got the decision right. Flow should have never been sent off. The great news is Flow is back. I think justice was done. And let's go.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yup, here we go. That was Landon Donovan. Titanic decision by FIFA rescinds the red card ban of Flow back Galligan, allowing him to play tonight versus Belgium. But Belgium, a few hours ago has just appealed the appeal. There's outrage in their camp. They're saying. Is this an April Fool's joke? It is not. And as usual, people like to beat up on America because we're hosting. They think we got a friendly decision. Does anyone look at Christianity? Cristiano Ronaldo? He had a red card that would have had him sitting for the first two games of the tournament. He played because FIFA reversed the ruling. That's important. Dakota Meyer joins us now. Not a soccer player, just a war hero. Dakota, welcome back.

[Dakota Meyer]

Thank you for having me.

[Douglas Brinkley]

I know.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Are you wearing the red, white, and blue tonight?

[Dakota Meyer]

Oh, come on. I wear the red, white, and blue every single day. Brian, you know better than that.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So would you watch tonight?

[Dakota Meyer]

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, absolutely. You know, this is a. I'm not a big soccer fan. I don't follow soccer. You know, it's. But. But What I love about it is I love this pride and passion, this patriotism of people coming together for representing and, you know, people who don't even watch soccer are here rooting for the United States of America. How cool is that?

[Brian Kilmeade]

You know, I'm also not a big hockey guy. Of course, watch hockey all my life growing up with the Rangers and Islanders and all those things. But I got into it when they. When they won it, because you appreciate people who, even though it's sports, they act heroically, they go in the clutch and they. And they love the country. I love the fact that a few years ago they would take it in knee, and now they're singing the national anthem with their heart in their chest, and people are so down, like, America's finished.

[Michael Goodman]

We're.

[Brian Kilmeade]

We're not going to be the same. And look at how we've bounced back already.

[Dakota Meyer]

Yeah, Brian, you know, I was running this morning through our capital. You know, it's one thing I do every time I'm out here in D.C. and I just go. And I just take it all in, right? And I. And I think about it and I. And this. I think this is a perfect example of what you've seen these. These last couple years is, is when you're for something, we'll always go further than when you're against something. Something, right? And you see this, you know, you see how long these ideas of this individualism of, hey, I'm going to represent this one thing, and how long they last. They all die out. There's a shelf life on it. But what there's not a shelf life on is patriotism. The love of America, the love of getting it right, the pursuit of doing what's right for people. And like, you see this, like, people coming. I mean, do you think everybody on that team agrees? Do you think everybody on that team, you know, they don't. We all know that. Right? But you know what? The commonality of wanting to win, of wanting to represent their country is bringing so many people together. And what I'll tell you is it's contagious. It gets people who don't even care about soccer, who have no clue about it, who come together because people are so hungry to be united.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So in the bigger picture, Dakota, I always tell people that, you know, they look at America, they were always finding the. Always finding something wrong. And I just tell them, compared to what I suggest you travel and if you find someplace better, better stay. But they always come back. And the thing is, when people like you travel the world and Have a chance to see different cultures. Not that you needed it. That's when people get really patriotic. They realize how great the country is. You're allowed to criticize, allowed to do things, but we have nothing to compare it to because we were born here. It's not our fault if you take things for granted. You grew up with a pool your whole life. You expect a pool in your backyard when you grow up. I'm gonna get a pool. Well, I had it my whole life.

[Lawrence Jones]

You're so.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Then someone walks over to your house and go, man, you're so lucky to have a pool.

[Unidentified Producer/Technician]

Really.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I just kind of took it for granted. I've always had it. That's not bad on me. It's just a fact. So you grow up scenarios away from World War II, when there was a draft out there and there was a threat to our utter existence. And of course, you feel removed from it. And I remember researching the Battle of New Orleans, Andrew Jackson, Battle of New Orleans, and The War of 1812 is happening. Do you know what they're saying? I'm worried about our country. We lost the spirit of 76. 36 years later, they're worried about. We lost our American spirit.

[Dakota Meyer]

Yeah, but I mean, look, I mean, that's like one of the most, you know, awesome things about people is we're so adaptive. Right? We're adaptive. Like, look, I mean, you know, do you think people who are homeless, like, would never realize that they were going to be homeless?

[Michael Goodman]

Right?

[Dakota Meyer]

Or people who, you know, are successful? Never. I mean, you know, I mean, like, what you are around is what you become. And so I always say, like, where your mind goes, your body follows. And so. So, you know, perspective matters, you know, and we've all got to go out and get a little bit of perspective. And we all got to go out, talk to each other and have conversations instead.

[Unidentified Producer/Technician]

But.

[Dakota Meyer]

But right now, with. With technology, what it's done is it's allowed us to create these echo chambers.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah, right.

[Dakota Meyer]

These echo chambers of where we can. We can build our own reality. We don't have to get other perspective of where we're at and how thankful we are. And, you know, like, I think we're going to be fine. I think everything's contagious. You know, we've got to get positive. We've got to talk about what we're doing and what we're for instead of what we're against. Against. You know, we have a party right now that. What are they for? Can you name what they're for?

[Unidentified Producer/Technician]

I know.

[Dakota Meyer]

No, but you can tell. You can name everything they're against. You have a party that's for something and a party that's against something. Who knows what's right? Only history will tell. But, you know, I just think it's going to be. I think. I think it's awesome, and I think we got to be careful. But I also think it's why Ronald Reagan said that we're only one generation away from, from, you know, from losing our freedom. Right. And I believe it's not about somebody's going to come here and take it. But I think that at the point we stop appreciating, and it's. At the point we stop being patriots. At the point we stop standing up for America and saying, hey, we're Americans. At the point we start accepting that kneeling for the flag is okay. Or at the point we stop loving this country or we stop. We stop outwardly saying that we love this country. And we're. We don't. We don't say that everywhere. And we, We. We give into those things. I think we're going to lose this because, you know, we, We. We all went a little while of not wanting to go out. And I mean, think, like, there's more flags flying today than you've ever seen across this country. Probably since 9 11. Probably since 9 11. Right after 9 11, people are proud to be Americans. And I think it's important for us to continue to do that. And I think the commitment we all have to make, no matter what happens with the administration, no matter what happens at midterms, we all need to make the commitment that we will be proud to be patriots and we will never compromise the fact that we are an American first. First. And we will say that, and we will fight for that.

[Brian Kilmeade]

See, the one thing that I talk to a lot of people, especially when you get out to in Washington, I've been in Washington three times in two weeks. So back and forth, you talk to people all the time. Traveling through airports, of course, walking through crowds. And the one thing people say to me, oh, on the Five, that Jessica is so annoying. And I like why. She knows her stuff. She knows her stuff. She's very red, white and blue. But she has a different view of how government should run. She doesn't think. She's not a socialist. But I go, that's what makes our station great. I don't want you to have to flip a channel to get another opinion. And you should be forced to defend your opinion on a regular basis. I'm always Learning stuff. That's why I watch the Sunday shows every. I watch every Sunday show every week for the last 20 years. I want to hear everything.

[Dakota Meyer]

Everything.

[Landon Donovan]

Yeah.

[Dakota Meyer]

I mean, like, I think we should all be that way. Conversations matter because, like, there's different perspectives. I mean, think about this. Like, my. My dad went, like, think about how far we've came. And thank God people fought for it because, you know, my. My dad and our parents went to a school where you couldn't drink out of the same water fountain as somebody because of their skin color.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yep.

[Dakota Meyer]

I mean, look how far we've came in one generation. And look how much further we can go if people. We need all the ideas, right? We need all the ideas, but they need to be pressure, change, checked, and they need to be through. They need to be constitutional, and they need to be in the best interest of human beings and people. And that's what it's all about.

[Brian Kilmeade]

See, it was interesting just to build on that. So I did a show, a radio show with Jim Brown in the 90s for four years. And we would say, you know Jim Brown, the running back and activist. And we would never talk sports. Almost never. Except for when a great running back would come out. He'd be like, oh, I love this guy. You got to check this out. But for the most part, he was talking about prison. He was talking about rehabbing people, race relations. He says, I remember being in Syracuse, and I would travel down south, and they would say, you got a black player in your team, you got to put them in a different hotel. And the whole team would move hotels to the black hotel because the coach would not break it up. And he said, I grew up on the second floor of a rented apartment building with my mom. Never knew my dad. But it was white people who rallied around secretly, who got money together so I could go to Syracuse because they would not give me a scholarship. But they knew these players, these parents knew that if they saw him, they would give him a scholarship. Obviously, one year they see him, they give him a full ride. He did not know what those white people did for him until years later when the coach said, by the way, you didn't have a scholarship. Your town put you in that school. So you would think a guy that saw this black and white society would be bitter. Remember him and Muhammad Ali were rallying with Bill Russell to get segregation out of the South. But you would never find a more patriotic guy than Jim Brown. He would say, yeah, look who we overcame. Let's point out injustice, but man isn't this a great country? That should be the mindset.

[Dakota Meyer]

That should be the mindset. But, you know, you have, we are actually becoming, falling. And we are, we've got to be very careful because our success is now playing against us. The same thing that we've done such a great job of evolving the country that we've got a generation of kids who, who, you know, you're gonna have to almost go out of your way to create struggle for them. Right. Like, like, because life is the easiest it's ever been in the history of human beings right now. I mean, you can get things at an instant. You can get attention, you can be anywhere you want. And like, you know, so I think that, like, we've done such a great job that, like, you know, we're gonna have to be able to find a way to create perspective because what, what's happening is, is these ideas are being weaponized by our enemies.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So talking to Dakota Meyer. So, Dakota, I want to touch in on policy because the biggest thing right now, once we're done with the 4th of July and the Ayatollah is done with his marathon I Hate America tour of his funeral, that we're going to get back to a scenario where they're not living up to the MoU, which is a terrible document we never should have signed off or wrote. But having said that, they're going to try to close the Strait. Who knows that the Houthi is going to try to close the Red Sea. This is what the summer is going to consist of. At one point, I think we're going to have to take back the straight. What would that look like from what, you know?

[Dakota Meyer]

Well, look, first off, let me just say, like, I'm no, you know, I'm no expert in any of this. I mean, I can, I can use it from a common sense perspective.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And somebody who fought in the Middle east and understands the culture.

[Dakota Meyer]

Yeah, yeah. Who understand, like the culture. Right. I mean, look, and what I will say is, is, look, you know, the mou, one way or another, I mean, we had to start somewhere. Right. The president understands how to get a deal. You know, it wasn't like he signed a long term agreement. Right. You know, and he knows you got to start somewhere. We got to get a piece of paper on the ground whether we agree with it or not. You know, we got to start somewhere with some document and get them to the table. And look, nobody wants to be at the table more than the Iranians, I believe. But what you can't, what you can't take out of this context is, is the Iranian people, if you're expecting for them to abide by the document, well, you're, I mean, like, like, that's way out of realm. But we do control the straight. I mean, we can close the straight down at any time, Brian. So I think we just, you know, we'll return back. The President will do it. I think it's about having the leadership, and we do have the right leadership in place who's willing to do what it takes to get this done. But you got to think the President's in a, in a, in a hard spot right now. You know, you just had Congress sign off on limiting his power, right? So they're trying to chip away at his power and his ability to be able to make decisions himself and be able to put warships where he needs to and activate on that, which gives him a sign that America doesn't have the appetite to go in and put boots on the ground. And so you either got to get a deal on paper right now, the best deal that you can possibly get. It's not going to be perfect. You know, it's not going to be the perfect deal, or you have to put boots on the ground. That's kind of where you're at in this situation right now, right? I mean, we've knocked out three layers of their leadership, so who knows what's real and what's not. I mean, they're going to have to figure out a way to get a unified front. I mean, who are you talking to? Who's going to take over? They've got a lot of struggles inside of Iran before we can even start. I mean, who are we getting a deal with, right? Who's leading the country? I mean, we still don't even know that, and I don't even know if they know that right now. So I think that, like, what's going to happen is, is. Is. I mean, we're still going to have struggles. We are going to. Iran will be an enemy with us for the rest of our lives. It's not going to, it's not going to be like a World War II scenario where you, you know, you're able to have somebody sign a treaty and then abide by it. I mean, this is going to be a continued struggle going forward, but we've got to get a deal in place. I think the President has, you know, he's accomplished a lot, right? I mean, you know, three months ago you had an Iran huge. I mean, like, we could walk out of there the president could bring everybody home right now, leave it where it's at, not even sign a deal, and we're still better off than we were three months ago with Iraq. And, you know, Iran was boasting. I mean, and you see that they did have an icbm, right? They were. They were able to get capabilities that were further than anybody was willing to admit other than the President, you know, and we've knocked them back, you know, centuries. Centuries for sure. And, you know, their Navy's at the bottom of the sea. I mean, like. Like, we are in a better spot with Iran today than we've ever been.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I hear you. Just scenario we'd have to push them back on land, is what you're saying, because they have drone technology and missiles that could rocket emergency merchant ship that would be undefended, and then no one want to pass through there. So unless we can go and secure that area. So that's what, Dakota, the President wants to avoid, especially before the midterms.

[Dakota Meyer]

Yeah, Well, I mean, I don't. I don't. I don't even think. Like, to be honest, I don't think President Trump just wants to avoid it because of a political reason. I think he wants to avoid it because he doesn't want to go watch people get killed in an endless war. I mean, I like this president. The person you want leading, leading the country in a time that we might have to go into conflict is a person who doesn't want to do conflict, but is willing to.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Understood. Yeah.

[Dakota Meyer]

And that's. That's what President Trump is, you know, like, I'm so thankful, you know, him and the administration that we have up there, that they're not willing to just look at this as a political pawn or they're not just willing to look at this and freely just use. The greatest asset that we have is our men and women in uniform, you know, without understanding the consequences.

[Kobe Jones]

I know.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And Dakota's back in uniform, too. Dakota Meyer, U.S. marine and medal of Medal of Honor recipient. Dakota, always great talking to you. Talk to you again soon.

[Dakota Meyer]

Thank you so much, man. Good to see you.

[Brian Kilmeade]

You got it. Back in a moment.

Don't go anywhere. Brian Kilmeade will be right back. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Kilmeade.

So, in case you don't know, the World cup news is pretty big, and it is. It came down last night. It looks like Flo Baligan will be able to play tonight. So it looks like his red card has been suspended. He gets put on probation, anything happens. So I don't know. A couple of things. Way Baligan responded prior to his suspension being lifted. Classy. Know what he said? I'm disappointed, but I'm not going to show it because a lot of kids are watching to see how I handle this. So I'm going to show I disagree with the decision, but I'm going to live with it. It gets reversed because they looked at and they said they watched it in slow motion and the US Soccer got their lawyers involved. Trump said he called just to get clarification on the rule. He's not a soccer guy. He played a couple of years in high school. But the other thing is Belgium is now appealing the appeal.

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[Landon Donovan]

In the end, they got the decision right. Flow should have never been sent off. You never want to send off a player, especially when they have a chance to play in a round of 16 in their home country. So in the end, they got it right. You don't have to like it. You cannot say it's unprecedented because this has happened before. Go search Cristiano Ronaldo's red card in qualifying before the World cup and you'll see. So the great news is Flo is back. I think justice was done.

[Kobe Jones]

Done.

[Landon Donovan]

And let's go. Can't wait for tomorrow.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And that's Landon Donovan talking about the reversal of foil Baligan suspension. But by the way, they're appealing. They're appealing. The appeal is Belgium. They got it in by 8 o' clock in the morning, so they're going to present their case saying There's a Rule 67 or something that says that you can't appeal a fee for suspension. Joining us now is Kobe Jones. Kobe, I know you don't really go over the legal portion of society, but it is one thing, people looking at bylaws now more than looking at back lines. So what are your thoughts about the fact that Baligan is back in there for now, I don't know if he's able to hear.

[Kobe Jones]

I think it's fantastic. Brian, when it comes down to it, is just the opportunity to have Baligan back into the lineup is extremely important. He's the focal point of the attack for the United States States. And this is, this is what you want. You want your top players, your star striker to be able to play in this, such an important matchup against Belgium. This, this is, I think, for the American fan, exactly what you were hoping for. That FIFA, you know, for different terminology, whatever, got it right in the end. Yes. And so I think we're all excited to see what comes of this matchup.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And not understandably, Belgium's upset. Their coach came out and said, is this April fools or the fourth of July? Lie says this can't be a scenario. So he's really upset and they're going for the appeal. Do you have an indication of this appeal have merit? Does the appeal of the appeal have merit?

[Kobe Jones]

I think I'm. Think I'm having a little trouble here.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah, I think we'll get him back.

[Coach Pochettino]

I can.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Kobe, I can hear you pretty clear. So we'll. We'll straighten out that audio again, but we'll bring him right back. In case you don't know, Kobe Jones, long time national team player, outstanding player for the Los Angeles Galaxy. And as a forward, he's actually lethal. He's a star for UCLA too. He's in three World Cups, himself two time Ms. Cup champion. If you need a goal, you always go to Kobe. Also, you need someone to articulate and make themselves available after a practice or a game. It was Kobe Jones. So that's why when I was doing soccer and I was doing sideline for the metro stores who are now the Red Bulls. Anytime Kobe Jones can tell my great. I can get an interview of a guy that's actually going to listen and answer your questions. But I want to bring you some highlights from the game I went to yesterday. Norway against Brazil. Brazil favored. Norway comes in. Turns out they moved the ball better. They were stronger and they had a fantastic forward who would not be denied. Halle Haaland was awesome. He's about 6, 3, 2, 10 and unstoppable ball. Listen to both his goals.

[Landon Donovan]

Bruno with a lovely through ball. Martinelli to. Oh, it might be a penalty. Referee's not giving it at the moment. Defender number three commit a tripping foul. Final decision.

[Dakota Meyer]

Yeah.

[Landon Donovan]

And he's saved by Neand brilliantly diving away to his left. It's the way they've chosen to attack the job.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Shelder up.

[Landon Donovan]

It's been businesses account. Harland scores again. Norway lead. The Northern lights are shining. Shelter up's been brilliant since he came on Holland. He wants another one. He's got another one. How about that? Extraordinary. Just phenomenal. Norway are on the way to the last day. Harland is a hero. The goalkeeper is a hero. And Brazil are knocked out again by a European team.

[Brian Kilmeade]

There you go. Brazil goes home and Norway moves forward. And they're going to play against England, which will be A phenomenal game. Both move the balls phenomenally. Kobe, first off. I know just to get sidetracked for a second, I just played the highlights to Norway's win over Brazil. I don't know how much you were able to see see, but did it surprise you, knowing both teams?

[Kobe Jones]

Well, I would say it surprised me just from the fact it's Brazil, right? Those golden jerseys, every. The yellow jerseys, everyone's always, you know, no matter what, thinking that Brazil is going to win every game. But when you have this Norway team that has stepped up, that's had the impact, you know, on this World cup, that's had the fan following, and of course, Erling Haaland, you know, up top. And let's be honest, if you saw that game, he. He wasn't doing a whole lot within the game. It seems like he wasn't moving much, but when he got the ball in that final third, he was a threat every single time. And his goals, both of them absolutely brilliant.

[Brian Kilmeade]

It's interesting, Kobe, we've seen a lot of different celebrations. I've never seen no celebration. He does not celebrate. He's like, of course. Of course I scored. Isn't that kind of. Is that interesting?

[Kobe Jones]

Yeah, that. That. That was it. You know what? It was actually perfect. Right? You know, he's got so many different nicknames. The Viking, the one I. That particular matchup against Brazil, Cyborg, you know, it's just like, this is what I do, you know, and goal. Goal. Just turned around and walked away. It was. It was a very impressive performance by Erling Holland and the whole Norway side. Let's be honest, Odegaard was. Was excellent as well. Just on his playmaking abilities for that team.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Edric comes in. He's 19 years old. He's supposed to be the next megastar for Brazil. He had a breakaway right away, but he got thwarted. It was a good shot, but it was a great start. Save. And then Neymar comes in trying to turn back the clock, hit a penalty, but really didn't do much. And when they needed a goal, they couldn't do it. It was like they went for. They thought they were going to have another dramatic win, and it didn't happen. But before we get to Mexico and England, just back to our game.

[Lawrence Jones]

Let's look.

[Michael Goodman]

Let's.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Let's assume that Baligun gets in. The appeal does not work. So they go on the field tonight against Seattle. How much does this back and forth play a role against Belgium and Seattle tonight?

[Kobe Jones]

Well, I. Against Belgium, I think it's going to Be a little bit of an issue, as everyone said, because as a team, you prepare for what you think is coming your way and then finding out that Baligun is going to be playing, they have to kind of switch it up and then now they have another appeal, you know, so it may affect the staff as far as their prep and planning. The players. I don't think the players care. You know, they. Before this World cup, they were looking at every single team that they might have to play and have an understanding. All these players know each other now, Brian. You know, they, they understand, you know, how the opponent is going to be playing. So I think they'll be prepped and ready regardless of if Baligan plays or not. I do think that they will understand it's going to be a much more difficult proposition if Baligun is on the field than if someone else is in there.

[Unidentified Producer/Technician]

I know.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And if there's going to be a goal, you got to think it's going to come from him, the way he operates ins the 18 inside the 6 even. But you wonder too if Pulisic is going to emerge because for the first time in his career, the spotlight's not necessarily on him and you wonder if he's going to do something just to keep an eye on some of the scenarios I see taking place. But I watched the whole game when the U.S. played Belgium in Atlanta and I watched Doku play on the left, but he's predominantly right player. And it's not that they left him open. This guy got a yard and then hit the, you know, and we just hit two unstoppable shots. Might have been three, I forgot, but they just look better. Belgium, what, what changed, if anything?

[Kobe Jones]

Well, to be quite honest, I don't think anything has changed from either side. And, and you put it out there, Doku, I mean, he's. He's a one man wrecking machine. You know, whenever he gets the ball out wide, he's such a threat and so dangerous. So when we talk about teams planning, I imagine the US is has a plan in place, place to try to slow up Jeremy Doku, because if he's on fire, he's practically impossible to stop. That's why Man City has been so successful with Doku, you know, out on that wing. So I think for the United States, they prepped, they prepared and defensively they've got to be solid. So there's going to be a lot of onus, you know, on if it's Freeman out there, if it's, you know, dest helping out, you Know, defensively, Chris Richards sliding over, a lot of players getting involved.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So if you, if you have an outside, let's say outside right back, do you keep them home more?

[Kobe Jones]

Yes, yes. You, you. You don't limit them going forward, but you, you do, you know, make sure that you say, look, yes, get forward when you can, but your first responsibility is the defensive responsibility. You know that you have to be prepared for Doku if he's going to try to slide into that space once you leave it into the attack. So there's got to be help. If someone goes forward on the right, then a defensive midfielder or a center back is going to have to slide over to cover that if they get caught high.

[Unidentified Producer/Technician]

All right?

[Kobe Jones]

So that's why you don't want to turn the ball over in bad places.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Have you seen Kobe, how many different coaches were a national team coaches have you played for? Do you think you personally.

[Kobe Jones]

Myself four or five.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Four or five.

[Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery]

What is.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Have you been able to look at this game and say, wow, that's a coaching move. You know that. That's a. Have you seen Ponchocino, besides what he might be doing in practice in the minds of mindset, have you seen strategical moves where you thought, man, this is smart. I see what he's doing here. Can you describe that if you've seen it for our listeners?

[Kobe Jones]

Yeah, I think one of the big things is for Pochettino, you know, pay attention to the hydration breaks, you know, when they come up. We've seen the US Actually shift, you know, the momentum in a game during the hydration breaks for Pochettino actually has time to show where the movement is going to be. And I like, you know, some of the. The substitutions that he's. He's brought on. If you look at, you know, getting players ready and I would say one of the biggest coaching moves and people didn't like it was actually bringing in all those other players to start in the game against Turkey. A Because it's extremely important now that all those players have World cup experience and know what to expect, you know, when they're called upon. Because we're looking at games that, that, yes, could go 90, they could go 120, you know, so you're going to have to have that full roster ready and prepared to go into the game.

[Brian Kilmeade]

You know, I look at a guy like Tim Way who's used to starting and being a main cog, and have you ever had that experience where the starter star Kobe Jones is and all of a sudden you find Yourself on the bench. How do you deal with that mentally while pulling for your team?

[Kobe Jones]

It's tough. It is extremely tough. And look, nobody likes it. Every player there thinks that they should be starting. You know, that's. That's the nature of a national. But I think one of the things that you have to understand is that you're part of the whole, you know, and that's what every team that I've been on, where there's an understanding that it's a group effort, they're always more successful, you know, they always do a lot better. And you will get your chance, you will get your time, you know, out there on the pitch at some point. I think that's. That's the mentality that you have to have, that you prepare yourself to be able to step up when called upon.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Right. And first guy off the bench has always been. Seems to be burhaltered. Is there anybody else you expect to see off the bench tonight?

[Kobe Jones]

You know, I. Well, it depends the way the game goes, right? If it's going to be more defensive stance, is it going to be, you know, more offensive? You know, do you have like a G arena that could possibly come in and just give that offensive push if you're chasing and you need that goal? Burhalter is that steady presence, I think, in the midfield, you know, that is able to kind of lock things down, you know, when. When necessary. I'd expect Pepe, you know, as well. And it's usually offensive guys because you. You always want to have your defense set, right? You only put the defense in there if you're trying to hold. Change that defense if you're trying to hold on to the lead. Yeah, adding a defender in the back.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Interesting. I want people at home to see the game. They might have list missed last night because it was pushed too late. Mexico. England. England prevailed in in front of 100,000 fans in Mexico. Cut two.

[Landon Donovan]

And this wet pitch skidding up for Teresaka. Takes on Gallardo and crosses 3. Header 1 N. England lead Jude Bellingham in the ass kicker. Mexico have been the better team. England strike first. Big five or 10 minutes on the cards here for Mexico. It's played on to Harry Kane who crosses a Bellingham. There again an England lead 2n. And in the blink of an eye, the game's getting away from Mexico. It's the left foot of Alvarado into the danger area. There's the shot. They've got one back. It's Kinonez. It's liftoff in the Azteca. It's game on in the last 16. Mexico back in it. Number 26 coming to serious play.

[Dakota Meyer]

He receive a red card.

[Landon Donovan]

Jelle Cora sent off. England down to 10. Gordon running in. Goalkeepers caught him. Penalty, England. What a game in the Azteca. Harry Kane scores. England lead 3 1. And the England captain scores his 85th international goal.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So they went on to hold on. Three, two, down. Man, that's the best I've seen England play. I don't know what you. You're the expert. How much that Mexico style played to England strength?

[Kobe Jones]

Oh, I think. Look, there's a lot of talk beforehand about the altitude and, you know, the Mexican team, the first 20 minutes, just coming out and trying to smother the opponents. Smother that England team, I think.

[Michael Goodman]

England.

[Kobe Jones]

England. And Tuchel, the coach, played it perfectly. You know, you don't want to just go rushing and trying to chase everything. So you saw England drop in and try to counter, and it didn't. Not a lot of countering happened in the first, you know, 20, 30 minutes or so. But then all of a sudden, boom, boom. You know, two goals all of a sudden, you know, for Jude Bellingham. And they were on the front foot. It's exactly what they needed to do. They needed to weather that first storm. And to be quite honest, I was surprised at the end of the game. Game, you know, as Mexico is chasing, you know, when they're down, that they kept launching balls into the box, you know, getting all the crosses in instead of trying to combine and have shots from distance. Because, you know, that English team, they have a lot of trees in there, a lot of. Lot of big guys. You know, they brought stones in. You know, they have a lot of guys in the back that are expecting those headers, and they did well to hold on to that lead.

[Brian Kilmeade]

All right, Kobe, what do you expect tonight? Belgium?

[Kobe Jones]

I'm expecting a. An exciting matchup here with the US And Belgium, and I'm expecting a win. You know, I mean, I think the way this team has played has shown that they have grown in a very short amount of time and that they've gained confidence in every single matchup. And if they can play how they played in that first game against Paraguay, where they were just all over them and showed their. Their physical nature, the physicality, their. Their youth and ability to just chase in that grit of the US Style, I think they have a very good chance of getting the victory. Victory against Belgium.

[Brian Kilmeade]

That'll be Portugal or Spain. We'll see what happens. Kobe, I can't wait to talk to you more along the way and hopefully we talk about the next level with the US Tomorrow. No doubt about it. We'll find out tonight at 8:00'.

[Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery]

Clock.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Pregame starts at 7:00pm Eastern Time. Kobe Jones, thank you. Back in a moment. Yep.

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[Unidentified Producer/Technician]

I think they made a really brilliant decision. I think the referee's call was horrible. I had nothing to do with the decision. What I did have to do is I said, I think it should be reviewed because I watched the play and he didn't do anything wrong. You know, got to look, by the way, if he did, I'd feel differently, probably if he punched him in the face. If he did something wrong, he didn't do anything wrong. Two people ran into each other. And by the way, if you look at that game, there were 10 instances where it was much rougher than that. So I think, I think it starts with the fact that it shouldn't have been a foul. I think that Johnny is brilliant at what he does. And I think they made, I don't think it was his decision. It's a big committee.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So they decided to reverse the red car. They said, okay, you already got punished. You missed 35 minutes of that game. Your team, thankfully for America, and that's who I'm pulling for, they survived. So that's going to be it. We're not going to keep you out of the next game and we'll have a year on probation. That's what they found. A clause 27 1. But there's another 1 in 69 or 67 clause in the FIFA that says you can't appeal this. So that's what Belgium's going on right now. So the president, United States, he says he knows him, he's watched the scenario, said, what's the appeal process? But meanwhile, U.S. soccer had already done it with their attorneys. President Trump, he would even tell you, he'd tell you if he did it. But he did not have the poll. He says, are you guys looking at this? And the appeal was in motion and the lawyers came up with it. And the way I understand it, and I don't, no one's pushed back on this yet because the way I understand it is Rudy Andrew Giuliani was the White House task force, helped organize this whole thing. They have an attorney and the attorney for U.S. soccer put together and said, guys, you can't watch back these penalties in slow motion because that's not the way soccer is played. You watch goal goals and offsides. You could do that in slow motion. But that's electronic. You did it in slow motion. The referee didn't make the call. You told him him to go review it in this headset. So reverse it. They said they did. I like it.