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The Horrific New Allegations Against Graham Platner
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The Brian Kilmeade Show 06-05-2026
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Brian Kilmeade
From the FOX News radio studios in midtown Manhattan. It's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmeade.
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All right, that is me. We have a big hour coming your way and we're going to have a lot going on. We're going to talk to a guy that was held hostage by the Iranians until 2025, 2023, until Joe Biden wrote a check and gave $6 billion. I'm glad he's out. He's over at Columbia. He's going to give us a real sense of what I think is we've got to go back to kinetic fighting in Iran. You might not agree and that's okay. Senator James Lankford standing by. Got to remind you to go to our YouTube channel anytime you miss an interview, see the whole show. Go to YouTube.com@the Brian Kilmeade show. Put a slash in between. And before we get to the center in Oklahoma, let's go to the big three.
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Jackie Heinrich
Number three, you said that Americans would face only 50 days of temporary elevated prices. Was that wrong? Since actually, of course, red 100 days
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Howie Kurtz
now the crude prices are down more
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Brian Kilmeade
than 20 and gasoline prices follow crude prices then reclaiming my time.
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Kian Taj Bakish
Those are inconvenient facts.
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Jim Kilmeade
Yeah.
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Brian Kilmeade
We're going to go over this whole thing. You got to be the sparring that was going on in Capitol Hill yesterday. And just Scott Besson just gets a total ko. The economy will make or break the Republicans in November and we got big job numbers. They would double what everybody thought. They thought 85,000 was good. How about 185,000 partisan tries today to help farmers make ends meet. That could be a weak spot. He wants to keep it a strong spot. We'll discuss it.
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General Jack Keane
Number two, when they shut down the straits and moves, they said we can work out a deal and we'll open it up in two weeks. Well, here we are eight weeks later, they've never opened it up and they keep kicking out the idea that we can make a deal. And I think we have to accept the reality that's just not going to happen.
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Brian Kilmeade
I agree, General Keene, and that's what he told me today on Fox and Friends. Iran talks, talks are in hyperspaces. Hezbollah box at peace opportunities. Who would have thought? Sarcastic. Any doubt we need to go back to the fight to finish them off.
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Graham Platner
Number one, there are some allegations in this piece that I just want to be kind of unequivocal about are simply not true. Anything alleging physicality, anything alleging that I knew what my tattoo was. These are the statements of someone who's politically motivated.
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Brian Kilmeade
Really? Okay, it's your girlfriend, not mine. Maine, we got a problem. The Democratic candidate for Senate is imploding in a way that makes Eric Swalwell's epic fall from grace look tame. I'm talking about the latest news about Graham Platner over in Maine. Much delayed background check. Did anyone even google this guy? Plus, California's astoundingly has still not fully counted their votes. 40% of the ballots either are not in or not counted. How is that acceptable in any state in our country? Senator James Lankford joins us now on Homeland Security Intelligence and finance and Senate. You were up all night finally getting funding for the DHS. $70 billion, right?
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Senator James Lankford
Yeah, we truly were up all night. Literally. We started voting on the last Stage of Reconciliation 10:30am yesterday morning. We finished up at 5:00am this morning voting entirely through the night. Democrats were throwing every amendment they could to try to block ICE and CBP funding. They failed at that and we succeeded. And we'll be able to finally get ICE and CBP fully funded for the next three years.
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Brian Kilmeade
Fantastic. Were you able to get ballroom funding?
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Senator James Lankford
We had nothing in there on ballroom funding. We had nothing in there on this anti weaponization fund. Democrats tried to throw in a bunch of amendments during that time period on all of those things. But reconciliation is very narrow, as you know. You've tracked this for years on it. Reconciliation, you've got to stay focused just on the main topics. If you literally add anything else to it, it brings the whole thing down. And so no, we didn't have anything like that in there. But we need to get the security funding for Secret Service. It's amazing to me this is even a debate issue after the President's had an assassination attempt, four of them in the last two years. This should not be an issue to be able to fully fund Secret Service.
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Brian Kilmeade
Right. And Senator, what you're talking about is they came in after the assassination attempt and said, guys, you can't build this ballroom without building in the security apparatus. And the way I understand it, and you could disabuse me of this, is it's not right for private donations to handle security operations. That's why the President's got an money for the ballroom. And it's really an event center and he's not going to have a chance to use it. It's the next president's going to get a chance to use it. So people should understand that he's just adding on with future presidents. But having said that, so they want a billion dollars for this, or 220 million minimum. So could you explain to the audience.
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Senator James Lankford
So this whole billion. And I hear people throw it around, even some folks on Fox, I've heard throwing around it's a billion dollars for the ballroom. That is factually not true. The President's raising to be able to build this event center, this ballroom on the East Wing of the White House, but it also has to have additional security added to it that is normal for any kind of process on it. Look at even, like the big conventions for Republicans and for Democrats. The parties have to be able to raise all the money to be able to actually fund those big conventions that happened in the summer before presidential elections. But Secret Service comes in and adds in, there is government funding to be able to make sure security is actually layered correctly on it. This is not unlike many other things that are done on it. To, say, the security part, the bulletproof glass, the extra layers of security, the things that have got to be done to be able to secure the White House, those things have to be added in. And, yep, they are very, very expensive to be able to do. But I don't care who the President is, they face threats all the time. We've got to be able to make sure it's secure. And the White House has not had a major upgrade on security in a very long time. And there are vulnerability points on it that we need to make sure that we're actually protecting any president or quite frankly, the visitors that are coming in, the heads of state from all over the world that come.
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Brian Kilmeade
All right, so that you just said something I didn't know. This is for the whole White House.
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Senator James Lankford
Yeah, yeah. This is the whole White House complex. The billion dollars covers the whole White house complex. About $200 million is just for this East Wing and everything around it. But it's also additional training. It's new shooting range for Secret Service. It's communication equipment that they need. It's hardening some facilities that need to be hard. There's a lot of areas that have just been let go on Secret Service that. That just cannot be.
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Brian Kilmeade
So, Senator, how would you get that funding then?
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Senator James Lankford
Is that just funding's gonna come through normal appropriation process or it's gonna have to go through some kind of other reconciliation where we really target it to be able to. That be one of the main topics and actually to go through all the hoops to be able to get it done. But, yeah, it's gotta get done. I mean, we face additional threats that are different no one was talking three years ago about a mass swarm drone attack until it starts happening in Russia and in Ukraine, until the Ukrainians drove a truck deep into Russia, opened up the top of that semi truck and launched in drones just immediately to be able to attack Russians. People were not talking about, you know, drones being driven into a truck. A truck opened up, and then suddenly drones are right at you. There's no warning on it at all until it happened. Well, that's a real threat. Obviously, there are vehicles driving around the White House all the time. There's vehicles driving around the Capitol and other places all the time. If just one of them has a load of drones into it, they open it up, and suddenly you're dealing with a massive storm attack on that. That's a big issue. That's a. That's a real deal now.
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Brian Kilmeade
So, Senator, I understand politically it might not be the best thing in the world to do, but I think for our country's security, I think our only option is to bring the fight back to Iran. We cannot deal with them. They are not good actors. Hezbollah just walked away from another opera, you know, from another cease fire opportunity. They have not opened up the strait. They want to charge tolls, they don't want to give up the uranium, and they want to continue to have a nuclear program. Here's General King, cut 34.
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General Jack Keane
Let's just start with the fact that in close to 50 years, only one president has taken consequential action against Iran.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yep.
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General Jack Keane
And their predator behavior in the region, and that's President Trump, obviously. Five weeks of epic fury and a naval blockade has devastated this regime militarily and economically. But they're down and they're not. But they're not out.
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Brian Kilmeade
And he thinks that the only thing he could do. He needs 10 to 14 days. That's what General Jack Keane from does the Institute of Study of War. Senator Langford, where do you stand on this?
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Senator James Lankford
Yeah, we have to finish what we started on this. And I do completely agree. Every president for the last 30 years has said, iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. President Trump was the only one that said, no, seriously, you will not have a nuclear weapon. And we actually dropped a gift down their chimney into their nuclear facilities with Midnight Hammer last summer and said, you're not going to have a nuclear weapon, and we're going to stop you while you're in the process of producing one. And then the current activities are to be able to say, for 47 years, Iran has been attacking Americans every chance they could. This is going to be the next 200 years until at some point we make them stop. So yes, our generation, our time has to be the one to be able to stop this or the next generation is going to face a nuclear armed terrorist entity in the Middle east that hates America, that hates Israel and that hates our allies in the region like the Emiratis. So we've got to be able to confront them to be able to make it stop. But they are a lying, cheating regime that kills their own people. Everyone's talked about the casualties and such in Iran. People don't realize the Iranian regime has killed more Iranians than the United States has during this conflict. On it, because if you cross the Iranian regime, they will murder you and leave your body in the street as an example. It is a ruthless regime that is a terrorist regime. And you're right, we can't trust them. We've got to be able to make them stop though, or they're going to keep coming at us to kill us.
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Brian Kilmeade
So I'm also firmly believing that we should do what we can reasonably knowing that we got a well brown weapon stockpile for Ukraine and they are the strongest army in Europe. They are loyal to us, they fight like Spartans and they've innovated their way to, I think pushing the Russians to almost flatten their back. They. So the general says, why don't we give them the licenses to make patriots and give us back 20% of what you make. We'll pay for them and they'll pay for their own stuff. Just let them make it. They need Patriots. They got drones to stop drones. They don't have patriots to stop missiles. So how do you feel about this?
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Senator James Lankford
Well, the production takes some time on that. What they have done on doing the anti.
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Brian Kilmeade
Let them do the production.
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Senator James Lankford
They would, they would, but it takes some time to be able to get that up to speed. That's what I'm saying. They, they need as much production as we can do right now to try to get it up to them to be able to get them because they're anti drone and what they're doing to counter drone is literally the best in the world. Now our allies in the Gulf are going to Ukraine to say we want to defend ourselves against drones from Iran. So they're going to Ukraine to be able to get the production on it. They can do it. They've stood up. They, they're moving as fast as the pace of war and so they have an urgency to be able to get it done. Their big threats of the hypersonic missiles and Things that are coming in from Russia as well. They've got to use our Patriots to be able to knock those down. Which, by the way, Brian, it was believed that the Patriots would not knock down a hypersonic missile. That they just. The technology was not there to do it until the Ukrainians figured out how to use our missile systems to be able to knock down a hypersonic. What we believed could not be done. They figured out how to do it.
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Brian Kilmeade
I know it's amazing, but I know the House passed Ukraine fund. You know, Ukraine support will the Senate.
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Senator James Lankford
We will take up a lot of things actually around the National Defense authorization. So I don't know yet on that. Brian. I am one that has been supportive of the fight in Ukraine. I take Putin seriously, that he is trying to be able to recreate the Soviet Union again. And he will not hesitate to move into NATO countries, just absolutely will not hesitate to do it. So the only way you can stop a bully is to be able to push back on it. None of us want a war. I want it to be done in Ukraine. The Ukrainians want it done more than I do by far. I don't want a war. Any kind of conflict happening in Iran. But you don't get to pick. Other people get to pick when they. When the war is on. On it. And they're the ones impressing against us.
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Brian Kilmeade
So, Graham Platner, I know you're not worried about the main election, but you got to keep Susan Collins in office if you want to hold the Senate. So, Graham Platner, I've never seen more allegations against individual, let alone a candidate. I mean, this guy is not only a bad candidate, he's a horrible person. You see the Nazi tattoo. You have multiple girlfriends. Say he knew exactly what it was. It's a tattoo of a guard. He went and got it. Of a concentration camp guard with other members of his unit because they were so proud of all the people they killed were killing. Whatever. And he had it say he didn't know what he was drunk. Now we know multiple women he seems to be physical with. He's on a teen dating website while married. He said horrible things about Chris Kyle that he was just killing people to improve his sniper record. And then we have this Purple heart winner that said he should have been killed and laughed at him when he was being on video gunned down and attacked by the Taliban. I can't even. I mean, we don't have enough time to go through it. But look, listen to who he's blaming. Cut seven.
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Graham Platner
I do expect The Republican Party to fight as dirty as possible. And I expect them to try to create things. I expect them to try to drag stuff up consistently. But there won't be anything new. It's gonna be a rehashing of essentially the same stuff.
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Brian Kilmeade
So he's saying that this is coming out because of the Republican Party and now the New York Times is writing it. I didn't know that was an organ of the Republican Party. Your thoughts?
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Senator James Lankford
Yeah, clearly the New York Times, the Atlantic, those are clearly arms of the Republican Party that are pushing people. The more people ask the questions and investigate him, the more this stuff actually comes out. And when he says it's nothing new, Listen, his issues of infidelity have been in his marriage just in the past year or two. So this is not like 20 year old stuff. I was a drunk teenager kind of thing. This is recent stuff. The side by side on this could not be more stark between someone who is unstable and a stable Susan Collins that is a consistent workhorse. That is Susan Collins. She just had her 10,000th consecutive vote. No one in the history of the Senate has had a record like hers at literally every single vote she has been there for all the way through her entire career. Never missing it. The lady just shows up and works every day for Maine. But it's not only just the stability and the consistency. And Mainers are not going to be embarrassed one day of what Susan Collins is doing. But it's also the policy issues. I mean, everybody's talking about Grant Plattner's morals and his lack of any kind of communist. But he's a communist. That's exactly right. He is anti American value in so many ways, just on our basic economic values, even in who we are. So I look at his policy issues as well as his moral failings.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, I mean, I think that if you're Susan Collins, leave him in. The Atlantic story says. What about the governor? Well, the governor is the one who wants to keep men in women's sports. And the governor's 78 years old. I'm not an ageist, but didn't we just go through this?
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Senator James Lankford
Yep, we did, actually. And during the governor, the governor's term there, education in Maine went from one of the top states in the country in education to one of the lowest. And that was literally just during her time as governor when she had oversight and Mainers know it to go. Okay. Yeah, we can't trust her to be able to actually get things done. Well, who you can trust is Susan Collins. I mean, this is not Hard on it and just the work that she has done. And listen, I'm an Oklahoman. Susan Collins is not an Oklahoma conservative, but she is a Republican in north in New England. She's the last elected Republican in all of New England in the Senate. So does she vote exactly like Oklahoma Republicans do? No, but we would not have the Supreme Court we have without Susan Collins. She is the chairman of Appropriations and works incredibly hard to be able to get things done.
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Brian Kilmeade
Well, Senator James Lankford, always great. We appreciate it and sort of. We have two fantastic affiliates over in Oklahoma and they always appreciate hearing you on. Thanks so much, Senator.
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Senator James Lankford
Glad to do it. Keep praying for the nation.
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Brian Kilmeade
You got it. Back at a moment.
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There is a connection of why that they're having these fights on the. On the White House law and the UFO and all. You have whatever they call UFC and all that because they're trying to go back to that when, you know, they'd watch people have these fights for the slave masters and they'd be entertained by it. So if you want to hear a guy desperate to talk about race in everything that is Al Sharpton talking about the UFC fight on the White House lawn. The President United States says. He's saying the president states is doing it because he wants to bring back slave fights. These guys are fighters who have trained their entire lives to get into the octagon in order to make money and become champions. It represents every country almost in the world. In fact, I think they got mostly Central and South Americans and Brazil is probably the best at it. I was at the first five. There's nothing to do with slavery. Nice try, Al, but no one's buying anymore. We are done with this. Doesn't even know what it is. Ufo. Yeah. There's gonna be UFO fights at the. At the White House.
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The more you listen, the more you'll know it's Brian Kilmade.
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Do you still want European allies help?
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Jackie Heinrich
We're discussing energy today.
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Brian Kilmeade
Well, we don't need the help. We're the most powerful military in the world. We gave them a chance to help, but they chose not to NATO. We went to the NATO countries. We went to others, too, in all fairness to NATO. And I wouldn't say I gave them a hard sell, but I said, hey, if you'd like to help, it'll be wonderful. And they all turned us down. And you know, it's going to be an expensive proposition for them because they shouldn't have done that. They should have helped you. You know, we don't need it. We have our own. We have much more than we need in terms of oil and energy generally. But European countries and other countries, they need it. That is the president of the United States yesterday talking about where we're going now. I think we're going back. I just don't think we have a choice. And nobody likes war, but we've had this enemy for 47 years and we can't go halfway. And I just think that if people want to go to pay five or six dollars for gas, they want to know that it was worth it. And in the big picture, no one's going to remember a month or two when gas prices were high because the fundamentals are here with this administration to get them low quickly. Joining us now, Amanda knows this intimately, was actually held as a hostage in Iran and lives there, has relatives there. And now that the Internet's back up, I can't wait to talk to him about what the interaction's like. He's become a professor of international relations at nyu. He is Keon Taj Boksh. Welcome back, Keon. Thanks so much for joining us. Appreciate it.
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Kian Taj Bakish
Good morning, Brian. Nice to see you again.
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Brian Kilmeade
So, professor, what are your thoughts now? I mean, Iran's clearly stringing this out since the last time we talked, I filled in for Will Kaine. And last time we talked, they're stringing this out. Even Hezbollah coming out saying, I'm not going for this peace deal, so they don't want any part of it. So that's Iran pushing them. What do you think our next step should be? Professor?
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Kian Taj Bakish
Well, Brian, I think the U.S. s next step is to show much more clearly that the US Is committed to what people have been calling finish the job. And I think that the hesitancy that President Trump has been displaying, and I supported his understanding that it is important to confront the Islamic Republic of Iran, which has been engaged in conflict with the US since 1979, that it should be confronted in a way that no president has done that before. That's true. But the problem seems to me to be that over the last few months, President Trump has been going a little bit cold and warm on some key issues that his own administration had put forward. In other words, not compromising on the enrichment, not compromising on the ballistic weapons, not compromising on Israel's security. But we're seeing, unfortunately, a kind of hesitancy by President Trump about whether he really wants to finish the job. And I think that that is reflected, Brian, in the recent vote in Congress in which many, I think Congress people felt, well, if President Trump is not sure he wants to finish the job and if he really wants to get out, then we're not going to put our reputations on the line and support him in a war that he might just leave. So I think what we need to do is go back to a very, very clear understanding that US Leadership in the Gulf is a vital interest of the United States. And then it has to be communicated to the American people in a way that they can understand. And I think that up to now, they do understand.
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Brian Kilmeade
So, professor, tell everyone your backstory. Tell everyone how you know Iran so well.
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Kian Taj Bakish
Okay, So I, you know, I immigrated to the United States in 1984 after spending time in Iran and in the UK but after about 15 years in the late 1990s, I decided to go back to Iran and work with United States organizations, American organizations, in promoting an open society, a democratic society, and help strengthening civil society and human rights inside Iran. This was part of what was then called the Bush Freedom Agenda. This was the Bush 43 agenda to bring freedom and American values to the world. At a time when we thought that the United States, Iran, was open to this. There was a kind of nascent reform movement inside Iran. I went back to Iran, I settled there, I started a family there and I was working between Tehran and the U.S. but in the late 2000s, the Iranian government actually following a script, Brian, that Putin had started a few years earlier in Russia, they decided that they would crack down on Western supported organizations and individuals that were promoting Western style democratic reform inside these countries. First it was in Russia in 2003 where they expelled a group of American organizations. And then the Iranians who actually worked quite closely with the Russian security services. They followed that script in 2007 and arrested me and two other well known activists. One was an Iranian American woman who was the head of an important think tank in Washington D.C. who was actually like 72 years old at the time and put her in solitary confinement and put me in solitary confinement in Evin Prison. And that was a shot across the bow saying, we don't want any Americans inside Iran supporting civil society inside Iran. They were expelled from the country. It took me a little bit of time to gather my things together, find a new position in the west and get my new baby daughter and my wife and my family organized so we could leave. But unfortunately, just before we could leave, in 2009, the Big Green movement protests. Some of your listeners may not remember that, but in 2009 there were huge protests inside Iran. Millions of us were in the street and we were about to leave the country and come back to New York City. And I was rearrested this time. They held me for almost five months in solitary confinement by the irgc. That's the group that the US is fighting inside Iran and fighting in Lebanon in all the areas where they support the Iranian terror proxies. They held me for almost five months in solitary confinement in a high security segment of Ebbing prison for political prisoners. Then I was held for five months in a group cell with some of the leading reformist politicians who were also imprisoned. And so they've been completely marginalized from the political scene inside Iran ever since. And then I was held for six years under house arrest inside Iran. As I became a hostage, a part of a hostage negotiations with the United States and over the Iran nuclear deal, my release was negotiated. I was one of the four Iranian Americans whose freedom was negotiated as part of the 2015 Iran nuclear deal. That's the JCPOA that everyone is referring to now. It's the Obama era Iran nuclear deal. You know, Brian, I have obviously mixed feelings about that deal because I think from a US strategy point of view, I don't think it was a great deal for the US And I don't think it was a great deal for Iranian democracy, civil society. It was good for the regime and it was good for a short period of time for the U.S. but on the other hand, of course I wouldn't be free if it wasn't for that. So I have to acknowledge that. But the reality is that at the time when I was released in 2016 and we came back to the US at the time I realized that this deal is not gonna be sustainable and it's gonna lead to another crisis. And here we are.
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Brian Kilmeade
Wow, it took so courage. I wouldn't went back the first time with the George Bush era. And even though I know, I knew that was dangerous, man, you had a lot of courage doing that. And then knowing that your exit was closed to go protest, that took more courage, especially because you know what prison's like at that point, right? I Mean.
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Kian Taj Bakish
Well, that's right. I mean, in 2007. I mean, you know, in 2007, when we were first arrested, I mean, that was an absolute shock and trauma. Actually, they released me just two weeks before my baby daughter was born, and I was able to go home. And the reality was I did. I did keep my head pretty low during that time. And when the big street protests happened in 2009, I didn't go out into the street. I was trying to keep my head low. But, you know, it was a historic moment. And I did go out to one protest. But, you know, Brian, that wasn't the reason they arrested me. They arrested me for one reason primarily, and that was because I was going to be for them. Exhibit A in a nationally televised mass trial. Some of the people may have seen that. You can see my photographs on the Internet. You can see the photographs of hundreds of us, hundreds of prisoners, young people, older people, politicians, ordinary people in the courtroom with what was called the hanging judge, the guy who had sentenced many people to capital punishment and hanging for sedition for traitorous action. But they wanted me to stand up in court and say on national television that I knew that the reformist president, President Khatami, had come to New York City and had a private dinner with some leading American civil society leaders. You see, that was the reason they wanted me to stand up and basically tar the reformists inside Iran as being spies and collaborators with American civil society.
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Brian Kilmeade
He'd be somebody, professor that we could deal with now, probably right. But he's marginalized.
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Kian Taj Bakish
He is completely marginalized. Can you believe the most popular reformist president ever since that trial? And by the way, I don't take personal responsibility.
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Brian Kilmeade
That takes a lot of courage.
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Kian Taj Bakish
But even from that time, the time that they had me stand up and name him, that I knew, and by the way, they knew this reality. I mean, their spies had known that he was having this private dinner and private meetings in New York City around the UN assembly meetings. But they wanted someone like me to stand up and say that I knew. And since that time, Brian, his face, his photograph has been banned from all newspapers inside of Iran.
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Brian Kilmeade
So real quick, professor, what are the chances now the Internet is back connected, that there's some. Some another groundswell uprising? Because they did kill a lot of the secret police force. They did destroy a lot of the military apparatus. What are chances of another green movement?
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Kian Taj Bakish
Unfortunately, at the moment, not great. For two main reasons. Well, let's say three main reasons. The main reason is fear, because in January of this year, by Best reporting up to 10,000. We've had like seven. There are a lot of conflicting numbers, but between seven and 10,000 have been confirmed. Some people speak of higher than that. But you know, Brian, 10,000 in two days being massacred in cold blood is a bit. And right now the regime has given kill to shoot orders for any protesters in the street.
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Brian Kilmeade
So would you.
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Kian Taj Bakish
The second reason is. The second reason is economic pressure. And the third reason, Brian, unfortunately, is that they see President Trump as maybe not having their back. He is willing to go wobbly on enforcing the Straits of Hormuz, enforcing the deal with Hezbollah and Israel. And that makes people hesitant.
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Brian Kilmeade
Perception means a lot. But I'll tell you, he's the only one to take action, period. Obama did nothing because he didn't want to alienate the regime when you needed him most.
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Kian Taj Bakish
People are waiting to see.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, and by the way, that jcpoa, as you know, professor, would have evaporated by now. It's timed out. That's right. So listen, I just. The courage that you have shown and now you're out here talking about it is fantastic. That's why you're so valuable now, because you're not. You're just hoping for the best for the Iranian people. And I think. And to no longer be a threat to everybody in the region. The rest of the region is showing that they care more about the economy than they do with religious extremism. If we could just rein in Iran, we might have an era of Middle east peace. And I'm willing to be. I'm willing to be colored, naive. Kian Taj Bakish, thanks so much. Appreciate it. And I look forward to talking to you again because I think the president's going back to military action.
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Kian Taj Bakish
Thank you, Brian.
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Brian Kilmeade
And I think it's way overdue. Back in a moment.
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The headlines, the stories behind them and the people who make them. Only on the Brian Kilmeade show. If you're interested in it. Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmeade.
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All right, we are back. We've got a few minutes here and there's a lot of things to. There's a lot of things to discuss. Actually, I was talking to the president in the break and he said I could tell our audience. He said, do you tell your audience that you chose them over me? So I was able to speak to the president. He's coming out to the game on the Knicks game on Monday. It's going to be game three. The question is, will it be a 1:1 series or will it be a 2:0 series for the New York Knicks? Now I got some, a lot of emails yesterday and if you ever want to write me, go to briankilme.com, just click on or if you want to order any of my books, especially they're all patriotic books except for the two sports books. I hope you do. But he said, tell your audience that. And he said I'm going to be coming to the game on Monday and he's got to decide whether he wants to be on the floor or he wants to be in the booth. So we'll see. And then we're just debating here, would he get booed or not? Because it's New York, it's a blue state. But the question is the people that come to Madison Square Garden, are they people that would normally sport Trump? I don't know because remember he was able to sell out the Garden and they had overflow crowd about 5,000 right before the election day. So we'll see where that goes. But for the Knicks and Spurs, I got a lot of email yesterday saying, Brian, can you balance it out a little bit? I mean, obviously that you're a Knick fan, but can you give some perspective? Listen, I'll give him some perspective. The spurs are going back for the next I think they're probably going to be in the finals probably five of the next seven years. That's how good they are. I don't think Knicks getting back are guaranteed to come back next year. I mean, when I watch the Warriors, I go, they're going to be back and back and back. And when during the Behei day, you know, the Celtics did not surprise me. They want, you know, I think they went back two or three. The Lakers obviously seem to be there every year, I think. Did Oklahoma and San Antonio be playing in the finals for the Knicks? They have not won it in 53 years. We have not seen the title in New York City since 2009. New York Yankees and Darryl Strawberry wrote today, this reminded me of 86 because it was a huge drought then of championship teams. And in 86 when the Mets ended up winning, then all of a sudden people went crazy again. So one guy that is going is the mayor cut 55. You know, I can tell you that
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Howie Kurtz
I'm planning to go to a Knicks game. I will be at game three.
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Brian Kilmeade
I will be in a very different
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Howie Kurtz
section of the stadium.
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Brian Kilmeade
And I think we look forward to
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Howie Kurtz
welcoming any New Yorker who is excited
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Brian Kilmeade
for the Knicks to have that chance to win. That championship. And you know, the question was, are you happy the president's going just to answer the question, please, are you gonna sit up in the seats like you're an everyman?
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From high atop FOX News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sewing division, it's Brian.
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I'm so glad you're there. The Brian Kilmeade. Joe, closing out a wild week. I mean, a lot primaries, usually not much drama. There's a lot of drama and it's still going on right now. We also look at the president's going to sign an executive order unleashing using the Defense Production act to unleash coal. And he's also going to be addressing farmers. And I think both those things need to be done politically. And you know, the president's pro coalition and pro all, all the above when it comes to energy, except he's against windmills. This hour, I'm going to be joined by Eric Shawn and Howie Kurtz to go inside this what's happening at CBS and get his take as a media analyst. FOX NEWS media analyst. So before we get to Howie, let's get to the big three.
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Jackie Heinrich
Number three, you said that Americans would face only 50 days of temporary elevated prices. Was that wrong? Since actually, of course, right.
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Brian Kilmeade
100 hundred days now the crude prices
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Howie Kurtz
are down more than 20 and gasoline
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Brian Kilmeade
prices follow crude prices. Well, then reclaiming my time, those are inconvenient facts. Is fantastic. And the treasury secretary really took her to school and I'll tell you about that. Meanwhile, the economy will make or break the Republicans in November. And they got great job numbers, but they did also get some distressing numbers when it becomes wages and inflation that's causing the market to drop about 100 points elsewhere.
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General Jack Keane
Number two, when they shut down the straits and moves, they said we can work out a deal and we'll open it up in two weeks. Well, here we are eight weeks later, they've never opened it up and they keep kicking out the idea that we can make a deal. And I think we have to accept the reality that's just not going to happen.
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Brian Kilmeade
Iran talks in hyperspace as Hezbollah box at peace opportunity. What a shocker. Any doubt we need to go back and fight and finish them off? I don't think so.
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Graham Platner
Number one, there are some allegations in this piece that I just want to be kind of unequivocal about are simply not true. Anything alleging physicality, anything alleging that I knew what my tattoo was, These are the statements of someone who's politically motivated, really.
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Brian Kilmeade
Maine, we got a problem. The Democratic candidate for Senate is imploding in a way that makes Eric Swalwell's epic fall from grace look tame. I'm talking about the latest news about Platner's much delayed background check. Plus, California astoundingly still has not counted 40% of their votes, an election that took place on Tuesday. And it's going to be at least another week, maybe more. We got the latest. So this week we had a situation where CBS hired a new executive producer in charge of 60 Minutes, their successful magazine show, which I've been witnessing, if you can, since Donald Trump came aboard. More than ever, there's almost no attempt at balance, although the pieces are quality and the thing they're doing, when you have a medical breakthrough or a profile, they're usually great. But when it comes to politics, in my view, it's been unbalanced. And I think that Barry Weiss, who I've never met, is looking to balance it out. So she's making some changes. Did not renew Sharon Alfonsi, who was extremely critical when Bari Weiss said, this piece is not balanced. Balance it out before I air it. And Scott Pelley was extremely aggressive, basically telling the executive producer, your resume's thin. I don't think you can do the job. You're here to burn it down. The next day, he was fired. Howie Kurtz joins us right now. Fox News political analyst Howie, your thoughts? Number one, I expected this after I saw that, when I saw the account that Scott Pelley basically read to the New York Times. But why do you think he did it, and did CBS have a choice?
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Howie Kurtz
Well, Scott Pelley wanted to be fired. There's absolutely, positively no question about it. I mean, here's a guy who's worked for this show for 20 years, and when you say that Barry Weiss, who I have interviewed and who was unfairly caricatured by the liberal press as being some kind of crazy conservative, which is untrue. When you say, well, she murdered the show, you're burning the bridge. There's no choice. There's no possibility that you're going to hold onto your job. And I think he's gotten a lot of embrace from the mainstream media as a journalistic hero. He stood up to the network and so forth, but this is the way he planned it out.
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Brian Kilmeade
So I want you to hear if you want to know how Scott Pelley feels. I mean, number one, he continued to do I'm watching three or four of his last stories that were involved politics. He clearly is against the president. Almost everything he Does. Here is him. The 2025 Wake Forest commencement address. Cut 44. But in this moment, this moment, this
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Howie Kurtz
morning, our sacred rule of law is under attack.
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Brian Kilmeade
Journalism is under attack.
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Howie Kurtz
Universities are under attack.
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Kian Taj Bakish
Freedom of speech is under attack.
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Eric Shawn
And insidious fear is reaching through our
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Howie Kurtz
schools, our businesses, our homes, and into our private thoughts.
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Eric Shawn
The fear to speak in America.
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Brian Kilmeade
Power can rewrite history with grotesque false narratives. Obviously. Very inspiring speech for the Wake Forest kids. Your thought, I mean, when I saw that we played it a bunch of times, I go, this guy's. This guy's really angry. He can't work there anymore. But he still lasts another year.
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Howie Kurtz
He's got a good anchorman voice, though.
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Brian Kilmeade
Sure.
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Howie Kurtz
But at the same time, what I would say is that where he scored some points is in saying that on some of his recent stories under the new CBS management, and your audience knows the background there, that he was asked to put in things that were unverified, that he was asked to insert bias. Now, what he, Scott Pelley views as bias might just be balance depends on the circumstances. But there's no company in America where you can openly trash the boss and the new boss, who also, like Barry Weiss, has no TV experience and expect to keep your job. And I don't think he's gonna have any trouble finding a job because of the way in which he's handled this whole thing. I think it was mishandled by cbs. It didn't have to turn into this fiasco. But there's no question that this wasn't like, oh, I'd really like to stay here. They wanted him gone. And he was very happy to become the symbol of, you know, the grand 58 year tradition of 60 Minutes, which is the most successful TV news franchise in history.
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Brian Kilmeade
So if you could. Maybe I missed something. But, Howie, the way I understand it is the new executive producer was introduced and had a closed door meeting with his staff. Scott Pelley decided to engage. And then it seems as though his people leaked that right to the New York Times after that gets exposed and the producer leaves after being, you know, berated by Scott Pelly. I don't think they had a choice but to call him behind closed doors, at which time they have different accounts of what took place. He said Scott Pelley had no interest in keeping his job. He said, that is not true. I did not want to be fired. So I don't know what CB and I don't know anybody at cbs. I have no horse in this race. I don't know what CBS could have done Different. They didn't leak it to the press.
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Howie Kurtz
Well, somebody taped it, and a copy of that tape was leaked to the press. And that's how this went from a 9.9 to a 27.9. And it's just because of the other firings. And I know there are very mixed views on Sharon Alfonsi, who, by the way, her story about the Salvadoran prison did air a month later. She just couldn't get anybody from the Trump administration to come on camera. But it leaves a bad aroma if you don't follow all this inside baseball about who the new producer is and so forth, and you just like the show the way it is. It's a little disconcerting that half the staff is now gone. But on the other hand, this show has survived a lot, going back to when CBS refused to run an expose on tobacco because they were afraid of a lawsuit. So it survived a lot of past controversies, and I think the franchise will continue with or without Mr. Pelly.
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Brian Kilmeade
So, Howie, I don't know if you saw the story, but they're thinking about. Evidently they denied it, but usually there's some truth to it that Joe Rogan might be signed to 60 Minutes. And maybe as that essayist that we saw with Andy Rooney at the end, you think that there might be something to that.
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Howie Kurtz
Well, they have denied it, but I think it's actually a cool idea. I mean, Joe Rogan, you certainly could say, well, look, he had Donald Trump on and he endorsed him in 2024, but lately he's been extremely critical of the president on the handling of the war in particular. So, you know, a fresh voice, a guy who appeals to young men. Everybody in our business likes to appeal to young men. Young women, too, obviously. But, you know, Rogan already has a massive audience, so. Not sure I see that happening.
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Brian Kilmeade
I want you to hear this is this is this is where. And you tell me. I have no problem with you telling me, Brian. I think you're wrong. When I'm looking at the text of what he said. This is really the conservative, liberal, independent argument. They're in our schools. Well, I view the schools as they're not teaching American history anymore. I do think that there could be less bias and less teachers telling people bad things about the country, but not cheerleaders. I look at colleges as a huge problem and what's happened in the Ivy League, something that need to be corrected and addressed. And I think he looked at as an infringement on schools. And when it comes to businesses, he did want to unleash Business. The president does want to unleash business. And, you know, of course you risk corruption and what happened in 2008, there's a difference in philosophy with conservatives and Democrats. And I think the president said, hey, look, I was targeted. I think that's got to stop. So there was a pushback on the press who the president thought was not giving him a fair shot. And they said, well, that is bias. The you're pushing back on this and you're letting the media be controlled by a White House. And I think the president says, this time around, I'm going to push back in an effect more effective way. And I think that there was, in many cases, with the schools in particular, there was some compliance. They said, yeah, we were getting too far left. Columbia was an embarrassment. Those presidents needed to be fired. Elise Stefanik did expose this bias. Why would the journalist Scott Pelley not see that?
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Howie Kurtz
Yeah, it's kind of interesting, Brian, when Pelly says, you know, journalism is under attack. Well, take a number. Journalism is always under attack. That's part of what we do. And sure, this president has been very, very aggressive in lawsuits against media organizations and in just rhetorically and taking on reporters, sometimes fairly, sometimes not, in my view. But this is the world that we live in. I know you're going to ask me a Graham Platner, so I'll just wait.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah. Last one is this. I'll give you an example. We followed pretty closely what was going on with the Russia hoax and everything about the Mueller report and what happened. And Hunter Biden's laptop, which we knew was real, everybody knew was real. And now, now everybody knows it's real. But I'm going to bring you back to October 2020. Leslie Stahl does not do her homework, in my view, sits down with the president. Cut 46. I think it's one of the biggest scandals I've ever seen. And you don't cover it. You want to talk about. Because it can't be verified. You want to talk about insignificant things. I'm telling you, of course it can be verified. Excuse me.
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Howie Kurtz
They found the laptop, Leslie.
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Brian Kilmeade
So, I mean, she didn't do our homework there. That can't be verified. If you've just looked at that, the authentic emails. A question to Joe Biden, which they got all the time. Joe, was that your email? When you wrote your son that was on that laptop, Was that your email? So that's some of the stuff where, you know, when she said to him, this is 60 minutes. You just can't say things like that. So that's what we were talking about. Yeah.
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Howie Kurtz
Complete embarrassment for all those who said, well, you know, how do we know this is real? And then it was like six or seven months later, Brian, that they said, oh, the New York Times and Washington confirmed that the laptop is real. Yes, we knew it was real. Obviously it was real. Was left at a Delaware repair shop.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah. And now when they had to interview Netanyahu, they asked Major Garrett to do the interview, not Leslie Stahl. And that was also. They consider that an outrage. But Major Garrett's more of a balanced reporter. He's not a conservative. He's just a reporter. Like, if you listen to his podcast, he's not cheerleading for anybody. So lastly, just about. Graham Plattner. Howie, there's no way this guy lasts. There's no way this guy can be the nominee. Do you agree?
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Howie Kurtz
After this New York Times story, which three different women are accusing him. Remember, he had the sexting scandal, and once they accused him of being rough with them, of torturing them. Not torture in the movie sense, but grabbing them or leaving marks on their arms. And he said, oh, this is all politically motivated. I think the campaign has totally imploded and the main Democrats have a huge problem. Remember the governor, Regent Mills, was supposed to be the nominee, but obviously he has some charisma. But I don't know how he survives and I certainly don't know how he beat Susan Collins.
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Brian Kilmeade
How is it astound you that experienced politicians like Bernie Sanders, Ro Khanna, Elizabeth Warren. Experienced would just say, I'm getting behind this guy. I'm putting everything behind this guy without doing their due diligence? Because the. This is a terrible person. This is a terrible person. This is a terrible candidate. This is a terrible person.
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Howie Kurtz
And he lied about his Nazi tattoo. Oh, I didn't know what that was. And that's part of the story as well. Look, he may have his group. Oh, you know, it basically says, Brian, I had a lot of problems. I drank a lot when I came back from the military, but now I'm reformed. But as we're learning, this stuff was going on and the source of all this was his wife who was doing sort of self oppo. So I don't know. I think the chances of him winning a general election are basically close to zero. And that could make a difference in whether the Dems have any shot, I think it's a long shot anyway, of taking control of the Senate.
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Brian Kilmeade
This guy, Jared Golden, I can't do his unauthorized biography, but he looks to be somewhat center Democrat. They might Greg him and make an insert him there. But we'll have to see he's not a socialist. Where this guy says, I'm an AOC socialist, we'll see. Let's see where that goes. All right, Howie, so we'll see what happens with cbs, we'll see what happens with Platner. But I think Republicans should hope Platner stays in. That's why they're staying quiet and in the big picture. Howie, tell me what your gut tells you. Eric Swalwell about to win the governor's race. All this stuff Dwell comes up, up and in friendly or friendly newspapers like the Atlantic and New York Times, they blow up. Eric Swalwell, all legitimate. He's gone. And then they decide Platner's got to go and they blow up. There's no republic. I don't think there's any Republican behind this. They didn't even get a chance to get at him yet. So what do you, what does that tell you?
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Howie Kurtz
Why, why should Republicans get involved when he's self destructing and the press is doing a pretty good job? My objection here would be where was this reporting like 3 months ago when he first started to catch on? Why wait until the last minute before the primary? And so, you know, he went on Ms. Now and he's, oh, this is all politically motivated, so forth. Plus a lot of details in there. And he lied about not knowing about this tattoo, which everybody knew was a Nazi tattoo. That's why he got it. So I think the press was late to the game. They figured, oh, he's kind of a cool guy. He's been in the military, you know, just, just what we need, an oysterman.
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Brian Kilmeade
Howie Kurtz, thanks so much. Lot going on in the media world. You're the best to break it down. Appreciate, Howie.
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Howie Kurtz
You got it.
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Brian Kilmeade
1-866-408-7669. Your calls are squeezing a few in and then bottom of the hour, we change gears.
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Don't move both sides. All opinions. It's Brian Kilmeade. Radio. That makes you think this is the Brian Kilmeade Show.
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All right, let's go to the phones. Joanne, you're on Long Island. Hey, Joanne, how you doing? Good. What's on your mind?
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Senator James Lankford
I just wanted to thank you for having Howie Kurtz on this morning. We miss him. We used to watch him every Sunday and he kind of just disappeared on us. So that was great. And I think that Pelly knew exactly what he was doing and it's like, you know, suicide by cop he knew he was going to get fired.
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Brian Kilmeade
Right. But he now he says they lied. They lied that I wanted to get fired. How dare they. So where do you think he ends up?
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Senator James Lankford
I don't know. I don't know. But he will end up somewhere.
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Brian Kilmeade
I mean, I don't know. Like, is there another magazine show that you watch, 2020? I don't know anywhere they watch.
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Senator James Lankford
No.
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Brian Kilmeade
What's that? Dayline.
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Senator James Lankford
He. He left the cream de la cream, and I think he's going to regret it. But he spoke his mind, he did it purposefully, and, you know, God bless and go on and do what you need to do, but they did what they needed to do and he knew that was going to happen.
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Brian Kilmeade
You know what's so interesting, Joanne, is like what he thinks is infringement on the media. I look at as someone taking over that's trying to balance. She's not a conservative, she's not a liberal, she's trying to balance, that's all. And he can't see that. He can't see it if you don't think Donald Trump's a horrible person that needs to be kicked out of office, he can't see it if you think that it's wrong for government to say what the hell is going on in the Ivy Leagues. He can't see the other side or chooses not to. So I. And he sees bias. I can't believe a guy that smart would not say to himself, okay, I got a different boss. He has a different approach. Maybe, maybe there's something there. Or maybe I do some stories that really have no political bent. Maybe I do personal stories, Maybe I do medical breakthroughs and give it a break and then see how it plays out. Instead, he's fired.
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Eric Shawn
Foreign.
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Brian Kilmeade
News, unique opinions, Hear it all on the Brian Kilmeade Show.
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Hey, we are back and we're following a bunch of stories. Number one, we got a huge job number, supposed to be 85, 000 over 170, 000 jobs. But the market didn't like because inflation ticked up slightly and it didn't keep up with wages. So I think the market markets down just a little bit. The President's going to have his Defense Production act an emergency in terms of coal production. He's going to put that into play. And also he's going to be making a speech to farmers. They are worried in Iowa that they're losing the farming vote. When you look at what's happening with the Persian Gulf and you see the Strait of Hormuz being locked down one of the things people focus on gas and oil, they should also focus on fertilizer. It moves through there too. And it's affecting the farmers and upping their prices. And China, the little boycott and the tariffs weren't helpful. But the president's gotta make sure to win them back. And I think that starts today. With me in studio is Eric Shawn. And when you think about Eric, you always think about the mob. Eric, am I right?
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Eric Shawn
Yeah, yeah, I guess so.
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Graham Platner
Yeah.
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Howie Kurtz
Right.
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Brian Kilmeade
How long you been working on mob stories?
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Eric Shawn
John Gotti.
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Brian Kilmeade
Not even Italian. No.
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Eric Shawn
Yeah.
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Brian Kilmeade
Did you meet John Gotti?
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Eric Shawn
Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I sure. The night of. John o' Connor was a union guy who got shot in the rear end. Gotti gets acquitted. He comes to the Raveneye Social Club. He comes out. Cause they have him fireworks. I go up to him and he starts grabbing my hand like this, like we're in a victory. So, yes, I did meet him.
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Brian Kilmeade
And what did he know who you were? Were you on WABC at the time?
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Eric Shawn
No, that was Channel 5, Fox 5 in New York.
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Brian Kilmeade
Okay.
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Eric Shawn
And before that, Channel 11. And yeah, I've known the family, John Jr. Victoria for, you know, for many years. Right.
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Brian Kilmeade
And by the way, the grandson's in the news again today. Yeah. So tell me about this story.
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Eric Shawn
Yeah. Carmine Agne Canelo Jr. 29 years old. He was convicted and on his way to jail 15 months for a Covid scam. Well, he got arrested for domestic, alleged domestic battery of a girlfriend. So sadly, you know, he just can't stay out of trouble.
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Brian Kilmeade
He was crying, evidently, to avoid jail time.
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Eric Shawn
Right. Yeah, they. Well, his mother, Victoria apparently needs a new kidney. And they try to not have him go to jail to help his mother with that, but the judge wouldn't have any of that. So, you know, the family, there's been. It's been a lot of. They've benefited, but there's also been a lot of damage.
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Brian Kilmeade
So, Eric, Sean is here because he loves seeing me. He also is. Is excited about a brand new series, as you should be on Fox Nation, stories of the American Mafia. And the focus on this element of
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Eric Shawn
the series is we have six different segments about Mafia stories that people may not know about. Like in New Orleans, the mob was called the Black Hand, 1890. That was really one of the first families of the Italian American immigrants that came in. And the Black Hand was the beginning of the Mafia in New Orleans. It was the Provenzanos versus the Matrangas. And they killed the police chief. And there was a uprising by the citizens of New Orleans against the Mafia and a mass lynching. Eleven Italians were lynched, and that started the Mafia rule of don't kill law enforcement. There's also a story of Lieutenant Joseph Petrosino. He's an American hero. People don't know about him. He was the first undercover New York City law enforcement officer to go after the mob. This is in the early part of the last century. He started the Italian squad. He did not like and want the black hand. And he, because he was Italian, he helped clean up the black hand, which was the precursor of the Mafia in New York City. They sent him to Sicily, where you can kill law enforcement. And sadly, tragically, he was murdered by the Mafia. He's an American hero people don't know about.
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Brian Kilmeade
Right. So let's see your. Let's get a cut for this. First off, Eric, this is Louis Kazman.
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Eric Shawn
Yeah.
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Brian Kilmeade
On the impact of the Gotti acquittals. You want to set this up? Yeah.
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Eric Shawn
Yeah. Lewis. Cass. This is another show which is. Is called Gotti's Guy. Louis Kasman. I knew him back then. During the trials, he would defend Gotti. He was always at Gotti's side. Lewis Kasman. Basically, the show is about a young Jewish kid in Long island who goes to summer camp. He gets a bar mitzvah. He grows up, in his words, to become the chief of staff of the Gambino crime family. It's an amazing personal story. He was someone who John Gotti could trust. He says he had a brotherhood with Gotti. Gotti needed someone outside of the organized crime family in order to bounce things off. He had no ax to grind. He was very loyal to Gotti all those years at the time. And this is his personal story of how this young kid grows up to be involved in the mob.
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Brian Kilmeade
So here's your conversation with him. Cut 56.
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Eric Shawn
What is it like to have that coming in? Did you feel like you were untouchable? Did you feel like you were on
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Brian Kilmeade
top of the world? All of those things you just said, it was always a joke.
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Howie Kurtz
I had a big toy chest in my attic in my house in Woodbury
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Brian Kilmeade
with millions of dollars in it.
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Eric Shawn
You had a toy chest filled with millions of dollars?
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Brian Kilmeade
Yes.
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Eric Shawn
How many millions would you say?
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Howie Kurtz
Millions?
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Eric Shawn
Six.
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Brian Kilmeade
Six, eight? Eight.
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Howie Kurtz
Some months?
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Brian Kilmeade
Ten.
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Eric Shawn
$10 million in your attic?
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Howie Kurtz
In my attic.
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Eric Shawn
How did it affect you?
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Howie Kurtz
Well, I was young, so I loved it. I loved it all. I loved the power. I loved the. You know, that was prestigious, you know, to have the bosses here. And I had unfettered access, you know, so of course, you know, I was a young kid. I was, you know, fat rats.
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Brian Kilmeade
Lewis Kazman, that's John's guy, right? And how old is he now?
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Eric Shawn
He is 68 years old now. He's in Florida. The money was unbelievable, Brian. He said about 100 million a year. There've been other estimates. The Gambino family made 500 million a year. John Gotti would bet on football. 60, $70,000 a weekend. All cash just flowing right through from kickbacks, extortion, unions, this sort of thing. And he was right with Gotti defending him all the time at that time. And he helped John Gotti when Gotti was sentenced to life in prison in Marion, Illinois, and got cancer and he passed away. Then that's when the feds went after Lewis Kasman, put him in a grand jury, asked him about the Gambino crime family. He gets convicted of perjury. He serves six, eight months in prison, comes out and they charge him again. And he then cooperated with the FBI. And he wore a wire. I made about 150 tapes on Gambino mobsters. One of them went away. He also. And the Gotti family despises him because he also apparently wore A wire on Mrs. Gotti, John Gotti's wife, after she had suffered a stroke. John Gotti Jr. Calls him a traitor, said that he betrayed the family. Angel Gotti. Yep, yep. And his. His explanation for that is the ep. He admits that he went in to record John Gotti Jr. John A. Gotti, Gotti's son, but he wasn't there, and that his mother was there. And he regrets it. He said it was a mistake. But it's really a story of being involved with the Mafia, being at John Gotti's side as the outside counsel that you can bounce things off of that didn't have an ax to grind. His betrayal, him getting into trouble, and now, in a sense, redemption. He says it basically destroyed his life. Now that he looks back at it, he's divorced, he has ptsd, has health problems, and he says he doesn't miss it. He misses John Gotti and the friendship and trust that he says they had together.
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Brian Kilmeade
Here is Kazman talking about Gotti being so hard to convict. Cut 57.
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Eric Shawn
In a stunning victory, Gotti was acquitted. And Kasman remembers that moment as the start of something much larger, the beginning of a pattern.
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Howie Kurtz
Not guilty.
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Eric Shawn
The first trial as the John o' Connor trial.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yes.
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Eric Shawn
Guy gets shot in the rear end, he gets acquitted.
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Howie Kurtz
Yeah, I remember, like, yesterday, you know,
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Brian Kilmeade
that was the starting of the Teflon
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Howie Kurtz
D. It started from that day on.
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Eric Shawn
And on the night of his acquittal, our city's reputed godfather stepped out of his lair to savor a celebration of fireworks.
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Brian Kilmeade
People roaming the streets screaming. How you feel, Mr. Gotti? Pretty good.
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Eric Shawn
Do you have a good party at the Ravenite? People saw that acquittal as, oh, I can beat city hall.
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Kian Taj Bakish
Right?
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Eric Shawn
I can win.
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Howie Kurtz
I can win.
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Brian Kilmeade
John Gotti can win. I can win. So what was the impact of that more than just Gotti?
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Eric Shawn
Yeah, that was the beginning of the. Of Gotti as being the untouchable Teflon. Don Lewis says that I remember this is what happened. He was a celebrity. It was like an. A list celebrity. John Gotti would go into a restaurant and everyone would be talking about it. Other celebrities wanted to know about him. He was one of. He was like a star of New York City. Yes, he was in the Mafia. Yes. He was a killer. Yes. He ordered murders. And Louis Kasman admits that, and he concedes that.
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Brian Kilmeade
And he killed Paul Castellano, the old boss.
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Eric Shawn
That's how he got into power. He and Sammy the Bo Gravano at the time was the underboss. And they set up the murder of Paul Castellano because Castellano had a ban on drugs. And there were members of Gotti's crew who were dealing drugs. And they knew that they'd be killed once Paul Castellano heard the undercover tapes. But people have to understand, you don't have the sense of the incredible excitement and the sense of, here was a celebrity. Yeah. How do you wrap your brain around the fact that he's a murderer and what the mob does? How do you wrap your brain around that? But he was. And I got a quick story that night. John o' Connor trial, when he was acquitted. John Gotti is in Mulberry street at the Ravenite Social Club, which is the Mafia headquarters. And I'm standing right across the street. And Mulberry street in Little Italy is a very narrow, small street. And Gotti's black Mercedes is there. Another black Mercedes pulls up, and I'm standing, looking, and a woman, a tall, statuesque blonde woman comes out. I'm like, boy, look at her. And she looks familiar to me. And she says, what's going on? And I said, oh, that's John Gotti's social club. He was acquitted. John Gotti's in there. She goes, oh. And I turn around and I realized who it was. Martha Stewart.
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Brian Kilmeade
Really?
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Eric Shawn
Only in New York, folks. Only in New York. And I saw Martha Stewart, a couple of months ago, remind her of that story. She goes, I remember that. When John Gotti. I remember that. That's the type of hold that John Gotti had over the city at that time.
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Brian Kilmeade
But you don't wanna be seen with him, right?
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Eric Shawn
Well, I mean, me, yeah, I would. I would have done an interview.
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Brian Kilmeade
Well, like, celebrities couldn't be hanging out.
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Eric Shawn
No, no, but they did. They would. There were stories of he'd be at Regime's, the nightclub, you know, when he had his trial, Anthony Quinn went. I think Mickey Rourke, you know, showed up to show support. So there were celebrities and people who were. Had no reservation about being with him.
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Brian Kilmeade
All right, and you also have the other series, right? Yeah, the other show. So here is stories of the American Mafia season. This is season two. And this is. Who is it? Joe Petrosano.
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Eric Shawn
Yeah. Well, Joseph Petrosano, who was the detective, 1883American hero, as I said, because he started the Italian squad of the New York Police Department, the first American law enforcement officer to go after organized crime.
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Brian Kilmeade
Is it like the Donnie Brasco situation where you infiltrate and you get in there?
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Eric Shawn
Well, you know, you got to Remember back in 1890, it's basically talking to people. They didn't have any wires. He didn't have the undercover cameras and that sort of thing. He was able to make cases by. Because he spoke Italian, because he was Italian, an Italian American. He is the first person to really, from the inside, go after the Black Hand. And that's why he was. They created what was called the Italian Squad.
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Brian Kilmeade
And this is all on Fox Nation. So, Liz, here's a promo of what you're going to see when you watch cut 59. One of the big cases that Petrosino was able to bring home was a case against a Black Hand group who tried to extort the famous tenor Enrico Caruso. They had sent a Black Hand letter to Caruso demanding extortion money. And Caruso wanted to pay. He knew what that meant. He was Italian and he was afraid. But Petrosino was a big opera fan, and he. He talked to Caruso, I guess, in terms that Caruso understood, and he convinced Caruso, don't pay these guys. We'll make a case against them. And in fact, he did. So that's interesting. So what happened?
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Eric Shawn
What happened was he was. He was so successful, he was sent to Sicily to investigate the Mafia In Sicily, in connections to New York and the Mafia. The Black Hand killed him, assassinated him in Sicily. He came back hundreds of thousands of people, tens of thousands, as A hero. And he really is a hero. And I say lost to history, he should be remembered more because he was the first law enforcement officer to go after organized.
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Brian Kilmeade
The stories of American Mafia season two. And Eric Shone, you got the Gotti special as well. When we come back, I'd like to talk to you about this congressman that just won the Democratic nomination in New Jersey who was a characteristic witness for the Blind Shake in New York City, yet he won an election by about 8, 9 points. They wouldn't really realize who the Blind Shake is. Have they forgotten? Eric hasn't. More in a moment.
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Politics, current events and news that affects you. Brian's got a lot more to say. Stay with Brian Kilmeade. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmeade.
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Few more minutes with Eric. Sean here, Fox News anchor, senior correspondent, host of Gotti's Guy. And also stories of the American mob. Season two is now out on Fox Nation. But Eric, the Blind Shake had a confidant in his 20s that was able to interpret form. He spoke Arabic and was able to interact with the with lawyers and help bought the Blind Sheikh navigate his terroristic opportunities here in New York city in the 90s. That guy is now the Democratic nominee to be the next Congressman in the 12th district in New Jersey. Hamidi.
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Eric Shawn
Yep.
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Brian Kilmeade
Tell me about him. And tell me about the Blind Sheik.
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Eric Shawn
It's unbelievable. The Blind Sheikh Abdel Rahman led the terror cell that bombed the World Trade center in 1993. The first attack was the assassination of Mayor Kahane, extremist rabbi Mayor Kahane in a New York city hotel room November 5, 1990.
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Brian Kilmeade
He was behind that.
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Eric Shawn
He was behind. That was his cell, Abilema. All the guys.
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Brian Kilmeade
He was a Jewish activist.
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Eric Shawn
Yeah, Jews. All those guys. That was the first, in my view, radical Islamic terrorist attack in America was the killing of Marika Khan on November 5, 1990. Then they bombed the World Trade Center, 1993. Then they have a plot to blow up New York City landmarks. And the Sheikh is arrested. He preached jihad and they were all involved with the radical Islamic terrorist attacks against our country. He goes prison for the rest of his life. He died nine years ago. And they all preached jihad, these members of the terror cell. And Adam Hammowi at one point was the Sheik's translator. He volunteered for him back then. He went on a trip to Detroit with him. And he testified as a defense witness. Homoeh did, who won the Democratic nomination for Congress the other day, testified in the Blind Sheikh's trial as a defense Witness.
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Brian Kilmeade
He's a combat veteran, combat plastic surgeon who volunteered over in Gaza, where we know he. One of the hospitals that he worked in had tunnels underneath it where Hamas came in and out. He's extremely critical of Israel. It wants to cut off aid to Israel, especially the Iron Dome. And yet he says, well, there weren't many Muslims. There weren't many Muslims in New York at the time. He was just somebody that everybody knew.
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Eric Shawn
Yeah, that's what he says.
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Brian Kilmeade
Do you believe for a second he
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Eric Shawn
said, says he's part of the community. He was preaching, he saw him. But my question is the campaign says that he had, quote, no meaningful relationship. That's their words, no meaningful relationship. Rahman, no meaningful relationship. He goes to his house, he helps translate with him. And let me read you some of the transcript from the trial did. This is prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald asking Khamenei, in the trial in 1995, did you hear defendant Abdelrahman talk about how America is the enemy of Islam? Homoeh says, yes. Did you hear about how Muslims had to do jihad against the enemies of Islam before the arrest in June of 1993? Khamenei says, quote, of course. That's what he always talked about. He talked about jihad, you know, so he's just lying. So he's admitting it in the trial. His campaign says that, oh, they broke off. He broke off Congress contact with the blind sheikh when he was arrested in 1993.
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Brian Kilmeade
So what do they do, just cover this up? The people in New Jersey don't care. Mike Lawler says if this guy wins, first thing I'm gonna do is look for an investigation on him. But I don't know what you could do once he gets elected.
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Eric Shawn
Yeah. You know who's buried in that district? Todd Beamer. Todd Beamer was from that district. Cranberry, New Jersey.
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Brian Kilmeade
Let's roll from Flight 93.
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Eric Shawn
93. And David Beamer, his father contacted me yesterday. Says that either the New Jersey voters don't know they're uninformed and he thinks it's a shame.
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Brian Kilmeade
Eric, Sean, thanks so much.
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Eric Shawn
Thank you.
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Brian Kilmeade
The American Mafia Season 2, as well as John Cott. He's called the Gotti guy. So, Eric, thanks so much. Appreciate it, Brian, thank you. Keep it here, Brian. Kill Me show. Don't move.
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From the Fox News radio studios in midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmeade.
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Hi, everyone. So glad you're there. It's the Brian Kilmeade show from 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan or around the country around the world. Mike Picaro is going to be joining us at one point talking about what everybody's talking about here in New York. First time at 53 years, the Knicks have a legitimate shot of winning a championship. 99. It was going to be a long shot and they lost in five to these spurs, but now they're back again. Spurs, an unbelievable team, really talented. And they got the 7 foot 5 inch guy in the middle. That tends to be tough. Jackie Heinrich is in studio fresh off two hours with Bill Hemmer. And he really takes a toll on you in the back. How much? How hard is it to work to somebody as unprofessional as Bill?
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Jackie Heinrich
Oh, my gosh, Bill makes it so easy. I didn't even feel the two hours come by.
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Brian Kilmeade
So we know that too. Dana. Sadly, our dad passed away, so you were asked to come up and help out for the last few days. Right.
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Jackie Heinrich
And happy to do it. And my heart goes out to her. And you know, what a tragic. I mean, 30 days or so after he retired, I mean, that's just. It breaks your heart. And I know that they're very close. So I'm happy to be here and help in whatever way I can. And my heart goes out to her.
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Brian Kilmeade
And you're hosting this weekend, too.
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Jackie Heinrich
I am. I'm doing the Sunday briefing on Sunday and I'm gonna be back up in New York a couple days next week. Also filling in on the show.
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Brian Kilmeade
Now, what else on the Sunday briefing? Who's on?
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Jackie Heinrich
We are working on our guest list still. Yeah, the admin is probably not gonna give us anybody because the President's doing an interview on another network. It's what we've heard rumor of. So. All right, we're working on that, but we're focusing heavy on the Graham Platner stuff because that race and the Tuesday primary could, you know, say a lot about where the Democratic Party stands right now. And I think it's being very closely watched, so we're pulling that apart. And the New New York Times reporting as well, which, I mean, did you read that, Brian? The fact that they call that unsettling behavior and not domestic abuse is wild to me.
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Brian Kilmeade
You know what? I didn't pick. That is great reporting on your part. That is. I didn't really pick that up. I just read like it was like every line was explosive.
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Jackie Heinrich
It's abuse. It's physical abuse.
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Brian Kilmeade
Physical intimidation, aggressive behavior during relationships, demeaning treatment towards women, a fixation with weapons, our prior knowledge of the meaning of a Nazi link tattoo before early explanation he gave publicly. And what they're talking about is he's got the tattoo. And the tattoo is something that prison guards had in the Holocaust concentration camps, and he was proud of it. They say other people in his unit had the same tattoo, which obviously. Let's find the other people in his unit. Maybe they don't want to come public. But I love the explanation. Yeah, it became public when I took my shirt off at my brother's wedding and he married. People were offended because he married a Jewish girl. I'm like, excuse me, you took your shirt off at your brother's wedding and you revealed the tattoo?
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Jackie Heinrich
Right. The other piece of this is, you know, the New York Times. I know they've got their standards department. I know that his lawyers are probably all over this. Who knows how many months they were working on this. I've heard through the grapevine people who are closely associated with it that might have been in the works for some time, but they drop it on the Friday before Tuesday primary. And you've already had early voting mail in voting in that state. So you wonder, is that too late? And then it's watered down in a way where you. You know, there's things that are described. Yanking one of these women out of a car, leaving marks on her wrist, locking someone in a room overnight, shaking someone so hard by her shoulders that there were marks left. I mean, the way that this was written is just. I don't know. I look at it and I'm like, what happened with this story? I don't know why you dumb it down like that.
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Brian Kilmeade
Couple of things. First off, does it remind you of Eric Swalwell? First, there's nothing. You don't hear anything. Maybe you heard in Washington that Eric Swalwell is cheating on his wife. Maybe. But all of a sudden, from zero to he's gotta go. He could end up in jail. And then Graham Platter, Grant Platter's okay, you know this, and he's got his tattoo, but we're over that. And then all of a sudden, like a slingshot, it all comes out in this story.
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Jackie Heinrich
But the Democrats who have endorsed him, I mean, watching Kristen Gillibrand be, you know, who is supposed to be like a women for women, right? Like, that's her whole platform, is she killed out women's empowerment, right? And then she says she's asked about this and says, we're still gonna do Maine. I mean, beating Susan Collins, by the way, who is maybe one of the biggest checks on the president's agenda. You know, it's worth it.
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Brian Kilmeade
She voted to impeach him.
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Jackie Heinrich
Exactly. And you know, you're gonna go to bat for this guy purely so that you can have a Democrat vote on the Senate floor because you are against this president. It just speaks volumes.
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Brian Kilmeade
So what happened last night when this story comes out? He scrambles to MSNBC, MSNBC, and he tried to explain himself. Here's a little of him explaining. For example, here he is insisting the Nazi tattoo. He had no idea that he was what it meant, and he just got drunk one night and left it. Cut 3.
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Graham Platner
We even released as a campaign a video which you're putting up on the screen right now of me dancing at my brother's wedding to his wife, who is Jim Jewish and her fully extended Jewish family. And I would not have taken my shirt off in that context if I had known. And so any statement saying that I did know is, again, totally false.
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Brian Kilmeade
That's the craziest explanation of.
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Jackie Heinrich
Well, and then didn't the girlfriend provide the New York Times with timestamps on their text messages showing that he actually did know about this, you know, long before. And I don't know, it looks like malpractice on the part of the New York Times to me. Just as someone, you know, I don't know what their standards department is or if there was other stuff that we don't know, but the. The rumor around it is that they have a lot more than they went with. And what they did go with was very watered down. And, you know, hitting on a Friday before a Tuesday primary is just, you know, it's a statement in itself.
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Brian Kilmeade
They could have held it. They could have held it till Wednesday. Yeah, unless they want them out. I mean, this is so interesting, because Bernie Sanders, evidently the reporting was behind closed doors on Wednesday. Was it when he went up that behind closed doors, he was asked directly by Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, is anything else here? And if there's anything else, is it abuse? Is it assault? I can't help you if it's assault. And he says there's nothing else.
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Jackie Heinrich
Obviously, this other stuff, he says there's nothing else credible. I mean, credible is doing all the heavy lifting there. So there may be even more than what we know of right now.
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Brian Kilmeade
So, number one, this guy, what is he, like this biggest womanizer in the world? It's amazing. I did not know that oyster farmers are that attractive. Especially a guy who doesn't really clean up too well or clean up at all. Does anyone even Google him before they got behind him? I mean, this is he's not only a bad candidate, he's a bad person. So look at what he's done. So does Ro Khanna introduce him tonight? He's supposed to go up and introduce him. Does he appear with him tonight?
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Jackie Heinrich
He says he's going to still since this came out, I believe yes, I think that was the plan as of a tweet from a Hill reporter. Anyway, you know, you wonder if Ro Khan is thinking about his own national ambitions that you know, there's always the hint of that with him, I think.
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Brian Kilmeade
Hint of that he is absolutely running more is Newsom.
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Jackie Heinrich
Yeah. Yeah. So here maybe he hedges. I don't know.
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Brian Kilmeade
Here's about Grand Planet with all this exposure or your personal life's out there. He could have been an anonymous oyster farmer. Now this cut 10 sometimes say why don't we get other people like you know, in public office at a broader pool and then, you know, you run for public office and it's a lot right. Is going to come out and given it. And I got to say, you know, watching, watching your wife's video, which again I found very affecting, very compelling, very moving like. Do you regret doing this?
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Graham Platner
No, not in the slightest.
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Brian Kilmeade
So we'll see. If he stays in, my sense is they'll have to pull him and if my sense is Republicans should pray that he stays in because now they race it down to four. I know we don't go with the public policy polling, but it was an eight point race a week ago. Now it's a four point race. And they say Susan Collins is always trailing and always wins.
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Jackie Heinrich
And funny enough that that on the eve of this or on the night, same night the story dropped, she cast her 10,000th consecutive vote in the Senate
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Brian Kilmeade
and they're celebrating her Right. Couple of things with Susan Collins. Number one. Do you notice they haven't said a word? I don't hear any Republican weighing in. They say Jared golden is somewhat of a moderate congressman. That's out. They might grab him and insert him in there because he'd be governor.
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Jackie Heinrich
Yeah, he'd have to agree to do that. I mean Jared Goldin was a reliable, you know, he would not hesitate to buck his party, which is a high bar for Democrats. I mean, it's like pulling teeth to get them to vote against leadership. And he would do it frequently but you know, that takes a toll. And he was personally, I think kind of done with being in Congress mentally after that battle. And maybe he looks at this and says, I have a respons and a duty to Serve the people of Maine. We'll see what happens. But he would be one that people are familiar with. They would recognize his name certainly, and he's well liked there. Maine's an interesting place because you got a lot of liberal folks around Portland, but then you've got a lot of conservative folks in the rural areas. You know, Graham Platner trying to masquerade as some kind of salt of the earth guy who's an oyster farmer. I mean, it's not like he's going out and hauling traps and, you know, he's supplying his mother's restaurant with oysters, like, I don't know, in a house
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Brian Kilmeade
his parents bought him. And he went to prep school for a few years. And I was listening to his interview where it was on some podcast, a New York Times podcast, the Daily, and he said, well, you went to a prep school. He goes, yeah, but I realized I didn't want to be there, so I got myself kicked out. So I went back to other schools. So instead of being in an expensive school, he got himself kicked. We don't know how. There was no follow up question.
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Jackie Heinrich
But it's giving sociopaths, in my opinion. I mean, I don't know, it's incredible.
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Brian Kilmeade
We'll see what's gonna happen. Jackie, the whole what I'm doing on Sunday is, you know, playing Bill Clinton, you pill. Harry Reid talked about the need to stop offering social services to illegal immigrants. Bill Clinton wanted to get the deficit down and crack down on welfare and talked about how crazy it is that we have an open border and then JFK cutting taxes. We used to be, hey, the Democrat wins at center left, the Republican wins at center right. Then you compromise sometimes. Now it is is. I'm looking at the Democratic Party and I see these extreme candidates, the one linked to the blind Sheikh win. Then you see Rab over win in Pennsylvania and Philadelphia. This a radical socialist. Usually if you said someone's a socialist, they'd push back. Now they embrace it. The question is, are they a communist like the mayor of New York City? I think the Democratic Party is going through something much more impactful than the Republicans did with the Tea Party.
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Jackie Heinrich
Yeah, this is one thing that I'm paying close attention to. And I think the defining piece of it is maybe not even socialism or communism, but I think the deeper ideological split in the Democratic Party is the Israel issue because it started to bubble up in the last election. You know, Joe Biden was tossed out by half of his base for supporting Israel. Kamala Harris tried to sort of hedge it a little bit. And now you've got Democrats who are always asked by one half of their constituents, like, will you take the AIPAC money? And they say no. And then they are, you know, they've got their own Jewish constituents who are like, what the hell? And they say, you know, we're gonna pledge unconditional support for Israel. They don't know how to answer the question. And then you have this new crop of Democrats coming up who campaign on opposing, you know, military funding to Israel. And those are the people. Those are the Talaricos, the Platners, the homois. You know, that is sort of the new generation of Dems coming in. And I think that that is something that is an issue that Republicans could. There's a lot of meat on the bone there to pick over because I think they all have a hard time answering the question because they know that their base is divided on it.
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Brian Kilmeade
No question that when one of the first debate questions, when those 10 Democrats on stage and pray for you, it's gonna be Mark Kelly, I think then you gotta Bashir and you gotta have bishopiro and you're gonna have Newsom and Kamala Harris and Pete Buttigieg. So there'll be about at least 12 out there. There. One of the questions would be, put your hand up in the air if you want to. If you want to reduce or remove aid to Israel. And that's why Bibi Netanyahu says, we're preparing to make our own weapons because we do not think we're going to continue to be supported by America. That, to me, is scary.
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Jackie Heinrich
Yeah. Yeah.
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Brian Kilmeade
That's our number one ally.
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Jackie Heinrich
It's. I always say that you can tell the people who didn't experience, you know, any real catastrophe on American soil, like, you're too young to remember 9, 11, you didn't fight in a war. You don't know anyone who fought in a war. The further removed you get from, you know, seeing your liberties really threatened, the less grateful for them you are. And I think that there's a lot of young people who live in these online spaces that are, by the way, manipulated by our adversaries and give a very warped view of the issues facing our country.
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Brian Kilmeade
A few more minutes with Jackie Heinrich when we come back. Don't move. You listen to Brian Kill Me Show.
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It's Brian Kilmeade, The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmeade.
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Jackie Heinrich, of course. Few more minutes with. With Jackie and Jackie. There's a few Things going on right now, and I know you're going to be getting married in New York City, but do you get the sense in the city how crazy they are for the Knicks?
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Jackie Heinrich
I sure do. My co anchor this morning, Bill Hemmer, was a little short on sleep yesterday because he'd stayed up to watch the game the other night.
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Brian Kilmeade
I had to make a decision. I did three quarters, but I'm going to go Monday.
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Jackie Heinrich
And you got an earlier turnaround. You got an earlier call time than Bill.
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Brian Kilmeade
Right. So I'm just wondering, do you think they destroy the city like they did Paris when PSG won? They destroyed the Paris the other day. I mean, do you think it's a weird way to celebrate?
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Jackie Heinrich
But I don't know. I think if this were Philly, my answer would be yes, but it's not. So hopefully New York will be pleasant and, you know, joyous, but not destructive.
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Brian Kilmeade
All right, now, the serious stuff. When it comes to the war in Iran, the President says the deal's close. I don't think it's close. I don't think there's for a second. I just saw the Foreign Minister just spoke and said, no deal unless there's peace in Lebanon. Police. Yeah, Hezbollah, just spoke out and said there's no peace. So General Jack Keane was on with me a couple hours ago, and he's pretty sure where this is going. Cut 36. Sorry, cut 37. Eric.
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Eric Shawn
Sorry.
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General Jack Keane
I think we've got to come to the reality that we have to return to military operations. So what I'm suggesting is if we go back to military operations, and I believe that's the preferred option, I think we should return to full combat operations. There's going to be suggestions. We just do a limited operation or a small operation to kind of get their attention. And here's the caution. The caution is Iran's going to retaliate regardless of whether we go small or go big. Let's go big. Take down as much of their capabilities we possibly can and get these guys as close to collapses as a military operation can possibly achieve. And then with economic pressure, we can put this regime truly on a pathway to collapse. I think that is the best option
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Brian Kilmeade
in front of us, and he thinks we're going. Jackie, what does your reporting say?
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Jackie Heinrich
Well, I think the President talks about a deal coming together all the time because it helps the markets when he talks about it. I also think that you see all these signs that Iran is not going to negotiate. I mean, they're trying to make this negotiation apply to Israel and Lebanon. Hezbollah and Hezbollah wasn't even party to the talks where they agreed to a ceasefire there. And yet Iran is making their, you know, what happens with them a big piece of the broad negotiation. There's just so much evidence that they're not genuinely, you know, moving on this, on these talks. And so the longer that we talk that the President talks about a deal coming together and we don't see it, I think it becomes hard for the American people to swallow the idea that a deal does not come together. Like Susan or Condoleezza Rice writes a piece about how if there is no deal, that would be fine because what we've achieved there is so significant, I think that that would be hard for the American people to wrap their minds around when they are thinking that there's gonna be either a deal or more action. Walking away with nothing at this point would be, I think, politically hard to sell.
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Brian Kilmeade
And the straits gotta open. No tolls at the very minimum. But Jackie was interesting. The most undertold story is Ukraine, what they have done, developing long range missiles and drone technology, leading the world while formulating what it has to be the biggest, most respected army in Europe. And all they're asking for us is just give me some Patriots. We can handle the drones. They have totally changed that war. And Vladimir Putin's starting to lose some of the elites around him and for the first time can't replenish his forces in the four year old war.
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Jackie Heinrich
War. It's an incredible moment. I think we've seen these moments come before and not, you know, maximized opportunity there. So hopefully there are, hopefully Ukrainians are talking to the right people and making their case right now.
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Brian Kilmeade
I know the House has voted to fund them.
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Jackie Heinrich
Yep.
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Brian Kilmeade
Get more funding.
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Jackie Heinrich
Yep. That was, you know, as some people have described it, like the super bowl for Ukraine package. There was a more scaled back package that Johnson didn't bring to the floor that would have included Russia sanctions. This one doesn't have all that, but we'll see where it goes.
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Brian Kilmeade
Jackie Heinrich, we're going to watch on Sunday in the briefing. What time?
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Jackie Heinrich
11.
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Brian Kilmeade
11 o'. Clock. It's going to be live. Jackie, they're working you to death. It's okay. Great to see. Yeah, that's true. Hey, we talk a little sports when we come back with Mike Vaccaro. You listen to Brian Kilmeade.
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He's so busy he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Kilmeade.
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The first half they kicked our behind and transitioned. They got out the way we calculated. They had 24 fast break points in the first half. In the second half they had nine fast break points. So we did a better job job and get back. We got to get back. We got to load. We can't buddy run because they have quick athletic players. And then you got Wimby coming and he could shoot the three or get to the rim. You know we were more efficient ourselves in transition in the second half and we got to keep trying to push the pace because these guys are too good to go against their set defense all the time. Getting 23 second chance points compared to their 14 was big. Especially with them amount of free throws that they had compared to ours. We had to find other ways to score. Wow. So that is Mike Brown actually answering a question in detail and to me showing respect to the press. But this overall is the overall theme. The Knicks don't think they played well. So Nick spurs spurs unbelievably talented team. I think they're going to be great for the next 10, 15 years. They know how to draft. Not only did they get lucky and get the right guy at the right time from Tim Duncan to David Robinson, but they go and find a Tony Parker and a Ginobili and there's they did it again. So they can draft correctly too. And they take the most of their opportunities. Where the Knicks are coming together at the right time and they've won a stunning 11 games and they come in as a number three seed. But that just backs up and hearing that explanation, first time I heard that him describing it. I don't think they think they play well. They think they can play a lot better. But Mike Vaccaro has seen more basketball than I ever will. Sports columnist New York Post Post New York Post writer and author of the Bosses of the Bronx it's the story that's the story of George Steinbrenner of course. Mike, welcome.
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Mike Vaccaro
Hey Brian, how you doing this morning?
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Brian Kilmeade
Good. So not many people. Mike Brown reminds me very similar to when Joe Tory got hired. Clueless Joe. Right. He's been around forever. People liked him, but they didn't think he was a good manager. And Buck Showalter was the upstart kid that turned the help turn the Yankees around Brown and he's a 38 year old at the time I believe and they fire him and he got him in the playoffs and Joe Tory ends up bringing him to all these championships. Why is Mike Brown before we get into the game in the series, why is Mike Brown work for this team? Why did it work?
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Mike Vaccaro
Yeah, you're right. There's so many similarities between the two, Brian. Like Showalter, I think Tom Thibodeau could bring the AK as show Walter did with the Yankees. He brought him from the dust to the brink. And it was Torrey who helped him elevate the ceiling and put him over the top. And that's really the same thing with Mike Brown. I think one of the important things of Mike Brown is that right away he came in and he was willing to humble himself and say, look, I need to adjust myself to these guys every bit as much as they need to adjust to me. Which is not a lot of. You don't hear that from a lot of coaches in any sport. And I think the players took to that. Some took longer than others. You know, I think Karl Anthony Towns famously took about 85 games before he finally got comfortable with what Mike Brown wanted. But once they're on the same page, I mean, you know, the results speak for themselves. They haven't lost. Right. You know, some people want to credit Cat's appearance and the Devil Wears product too, with being the turning point for, for the Knicks winning. You know, they haven't lost since that movie was released. But I give it more to Mike Brown and Kat, who have had a season long struggle to be on the same page, but all of a sudden they are. And that was a really key element in suddenly the Knicks looking like they can reach a different realm.
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Brian Kilmeade
Right. And it shocked everyone, Mike, from all your, from all your years in basketball and all your coverage of the biggest surprises. I mean, this team was they weren't the top seed. And then they're down 21 to the Hawks and people are saying, well, if Brown loses that series, they're out, they're done. Can they pick themselves up and get back? Is this the biggest turnaround and the biggest surprise you've covered?
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Mike Vaccaro
Yeah, even I'm surprised with it, Brian. Look, all year long when I was, you know, trying to talk Knicks fans off the ledge because they'd lose two or three games in a row and they, they'd ask me what's wrong with the Knicks. They don't, you know, they're not playing as well as they should. I'd say, look, for one thing, I thought that the regular season for the knicks was an 82 game kind of, you know, tryout session. Just kind of figure out where they were. I always told them, and I said this at the beginning of the playoffs, the team that could lose in the first round and the team that could win the finals and I meant that. I mean it wasn't a cop out answer and I think we're seeing that. I mean they're maximizing what they were. Whatever it was that happened to them against the Hawks. Getting down to one maybe understanding that all of their legacies were at stake. Maybe understanding that they just had to do something which. Which was crazy about this Brian is interesting. They've had this 12 game winning streak where they. They've won by 270 odd points which is the most in NBA history. But the two games they've lost in the playoffs they've only lost by a point. I mean the sky was falling because they lost two one point games. I mean it's remarkable what they've done. You figure at some point the law of probabilities have to catch up to them. But it hasn't yet. Even the other night, you know that was a double digit win. You know the crazy game against Cleveland when they had to come back in 20, 20 down that wound up an 11.1. Even when they struggle they win by double digits. It's something beyond what I've ever seen before from a team for this long period of time.
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Brian Kilmeade
If people are watching at home they saw me typing because I want to get the ratings and Game 1 of the NBA Finals was 10.9 million viewers. That is 273,000 more than last year's Game 1. And despite the over year increase it will describe as the lowest watch NBA Finals game one since 2000. That was the lowest game since 2007. So we'll see how that rates to the national audience. Got an 89 overall. One of the most intriguing athletes, not just a big guy athletes is Victor Wembanyama. Here he is talking about and I thought he was and I want to get your view, you're the expert. But I thought he was totally ineffective shooting from the outside. And I thought that Carl Anthony Towns looked so much quicker and I thought he was so much quicker. And on the offense I thought Victor was seemed overmatched. Cut 64. Every team guards differently. You know I'm going to figure it out out.
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Kian Taj Bakish
It's. Yeah, I mean I was bad tonight.
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Brian Kilmeade
It's not more complicated than that. You guys were up 12 or 14, whatever it was midway through the third. When did you feel like things were slipping a little? What was it? Was it quick or was it just simply just. They just started making more shots. Was it something just simple? It was quick.
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Kian Taj Bakish
I think, I think we let that one go.
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Brian Kilmeade
So what is the sense of the locker room there. And what do you think, Webign? I just love the emotion he shows. It just shows how much he cares. Cares.
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Jim Kilmeade
But.
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Brian Kilmeade
But what's your takeaway and what do you think is going to change about game two?
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Mike Vaccaro
Look, one, Bama won me over when he somehow managed to rescue the NBA All Star Game, which just looked hopelessly lost and going into oblivion. And this year he. He cared so much, so his teammates cared, and it made that a really enjoyable game, in my view. I didn't think that was possible. So I. I get it. There are some people who think he's. He's a little out there, but my goodness, he's something to watch, something to behold. I think the one thing that he's vulnerable to is one thing the Knicks tried to exploit. They. They try and make him work, make him work. And by the fourth quarter, maybe he's not quite as effective because he doesn't have the stamina he's going to have next year or five years or ten years from now. And look, I think one of the great things about the Knicks did is, I mean, you know, for most part, when Cat was out there, he guarded him and he was very effective. It was 2 for 12 when Bayama, when Cat was guarding him. They've really kept in reserve what's their. Really their secret weapon against him. Him, which is putting OG Anunoby against him for, you know, a couple stretches of time because Anunobi is the Knicks, you know, Swiss army knife. He can guard anybody on any team. He's been effective against Wembayama. Even though he's giving up, you know, eight, nine inches in height. They didn't have to use that at all in game one. Credit to Cat because he didn't get into foul trouble. He was available. And that's really the biggest thing for Cat. You don't want him to get those, you know, one or two quick early fouls, so you have to put them to the bench. One thing we did see in game one is that, you know, Mitch Robinson might not be 100, but he can get there, get in there and give you 10, 12 effective minutes. That's going to help. But that's what the Knicks need to do. They need to keep putting a body on Wembayama, make it hard for him. Look, he's, you know, he struggled the other day, and he still went up, I think, with 24 and 12 something to that effect. He's a very good player. He's a great player, but you need to try and slow him down. And you know, that'll, that'll yield benefits in the fourth quarter of these games. And we saw that the other night.
- [100:41]
Brian Kilmeade
I don't think that was the best, that was the most balanced refereeing that I've seen. I mean there was. Some of the calls were ridiculous and he was spending this whole night at the line and he can chew free throws. I remember when Shaq first came in the league and I were up against a break and they, he never was getting any calls because, you know, he was this phenomenon and they just swell. You're not ewing, you're not Elijah. 1. You haven't put your time in. This guy's getting calls already. He's got just a couple of years in the league.
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Mike Vaccaro
He's definitely getting a stars whistle and yeah, I mean, look, you're not the only person I talked to a lot of Knicks fans in my life life the last couple of days and they just couldn't believe, you know, the refereeing. And then I think there were a couple of questionable calls or non calls. But you know what, when you're able to survive that, and also like Mike Brown said, not playing your best and still win the game that makes it, that's got to make you feel pretty good about where you are going into the rest of the series.
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Brian Kilmeade
Author of Bosses of the BRONX I mean, people don't remember how George Steinber used to dominate here in sports. Love them, hate him, suspend them. They win, they lose. Gets upset at exhibition game losses. Why'd you tackle this project?
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Mike Vaccaro
You know what? For that very reason, Brian. Because I think there's a lot of younger fans who don't remember George at all. And even guys of our generation who maybe selectively tend to remember George toward the end when, you know, he'd walk in the Yankee Stadium and just be treated like a conquering king. And he was walking in the same stadium 10 years earlier and the noise was just as loud, but the sentiment was much different. And the words that people were using to chant at him are much different because people despise him for many years in addition to loving him at the end. And to me, when you have that many facets, it's, it makes for the perfect subject to capture between the covers of a book.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah. I take it you will not, you will not regret it. Pick it up. The boss of the Bronx lately. Mike. So what do you think? I know it's a must win for San Antonio. What do you think happens tonight?
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Mike Vaccaro
Look, I really think the Knicks are playing in a place now. I've tried to keep my, my, my optimism in check on behalf of Knicks fans. Because you figure at some point this is going to end. I thought it was going to end. It was going to end in game one. I actually think the Knicks are going to play great tonight night. So let's see if the spurs can match that. I don't think they will. I think the Knicks come back to nothing. I really do believe that.
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Eric Shawn
Wow.
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Mike Vaccaro
It's probably the first time I've allowed that much optimism to creep into my conversation with anybody. Just because, you know, you just keep waiting for the other shoe to drop. It's the NBA. Everybody's good. But, man, the Knicks are on this run that we've never seen before. And until someone shows me they can beat them, I'm not going to bet against them.
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Brian Kilmeade
Congratulations, Mike. Mike McCarran, congratulations on the book. Pick it up. The boss of the Bronx, especially Father's Day. What a great gift. Thanks, Mike. Appreciate it. Coming up next, my brother Jim joins us. We're going to break down the World Cup. He's the soccer expert and president of the American soccer club, the New York Fighting Tomcats, who are still in action. So we'll break down that talk about everything from the tickets to what's going to happen with the US Team who have a game Monday night against Germany and then they play for real. And I'll be out in Los Angeles for all that on Friday night a week from today. Don't move. You listen to Brian. Kill me. Meet you.
- [103:30]
Real talk, real guests, real insight where curiosity meets conversation. It's the Brian Kilmeade Show. Information you want, truth you demand. This is the Brian Kilmeade show, sponsored by Prevagen. Prevagen, made for your brain.
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Hey, we are back and the World cup is a week away and you're going to be seeing nothing but that for the next, I guess, month and a half. I think the finals on July 19th and it's just going to dominate the summer in a way I'm not sure people are prepared for in 94. Kind of snuck up on people and it was this big hit. But I mean, there was no Fox News then, so life wasn't complete. So now, you know, fox launched in 96, so but it was a big hit. It was the most attended World cup ever. Now it's between three countries and it's one of the biggest, one of the biggest stories that you're going to find in sports. It's like having there's 104 games. So it's like having 104 Super Bowls. Joining me now is my brother Jim. He is a soccer expert, fantastic player. Went on to be general manager of the Long Island Rough Riders. At the time the top league in the country, the US isl. And now he's with the npsl, the American soccer club which he found founded and their name is the Fighting Tomcats. And Jim, we'll get to your team in a second. But just on this game, the US team got together, named their 26 man roster. What did you see against Senegal that made you perhaps optimistic they're ready to do some damage in their group.
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Jim Kilmeade
I saw a completely energized team. I saw the mentality that I've always wondered about. Senegal is a very good team, really tough to play against. They've beaten some of the best teams in the world in a lead up. They've had a run almost like the Knicks coming up to this World cup, winning almost every game. I loved what I saw from Pulisic. I like the fact that he's got that little bit of a monkey off his back by putting a ball in the back of the net. Love, McKinney. I just saw a lot of continuity. We didn't get exposed. I have a couple of questions that came out of that game, especially with goalkeeper choices, but it's a real positive. The crowd was amazing.
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Brian Kilmeade
Who's. Who's going to be starting in goal? Do you know,
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Jim Kilmeade
you know what?
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Brian Kilmeade
I.
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Jim Kilmeade
It was a. Matt Freeze was a lock. He was the guy, he was the choice for all the games and then he doesn't play one second in the Senegal game. The game Germany on Saturday, 2:30 Eastern Time will tell, I think who's going to start in the World Cup. I. I can't imagine it's not Matt Freeze. But you know, we have three goalkeepers. Matt Turner 54 caps, Matt Freeze 54. And Brady won. He got a second half. So. So I'm not sure. I don't question Pochettino, but I'm scratching my head about the choice in the Senegal game for not having Matt Freeze in there for even a half.
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Brian Kilmeade
Or do you say to yourself, I'm going to let these two guys play and find out who the backup's going to be and save them because you already made your decision, right? Try.
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Jim Kilmeade
Yeah, that's true, that's true. But you know what? When your Goalkeeper only has 14 caps, it's a 50.
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Brian Kilmeade
50.
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Jim Kilmeade
Do you save them or do you give them another experience in a 75,000 people cheering USA in his first World Cup. So Pochettino is a smart guy. I'm sure he made a good decision, but I'm scratching my head.
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Brian Kilmeade
All right, so they're going to play against Germany. You. You going to play the whole roster again, do you think. What do you. I think you're going to see a
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Jim Kilmeade
starting lineup look very much like our starting lineup for Game 1 against Paraguay. Maybe outside of one strategic move here or there, but I think you're going to see second half. You'll see a whole different team. But I think the first half is going to be a team that's going to be maybe 90, 95% of what we see on opening day. June 12th.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah. So June 12th, they open up against Paraguay, a team they beat 2:1 last year. I, you know, it's going to be a different team now. I think they're playing better, but that's a game they should win, don't you think?
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Jim Kilmeade
Yeah, they should win. They should win. We should win every. We should. We can and should win our group. We should. We can win in every single game. There's not a team in there. There's no Holland in there. There's no team that we have a hard time playing against, like Portugal. But it comes down to mentality. I think there are a couple of keys, Brian, I think, and I think I'm concerned about this in a way, the, the crowd that we had for the Senegal game. All U.S. soccer control, ticket ticketing, fully Americans in the. In the house, affordable tickets. I'm not sure who's going to be in the. In the audience at Sofi Stadium next Friday. And that's concerning because that team responded like I haven't seen.
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Brian Kilmeade
Do you think Paraguay is going to say they're going to send their.
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Jim Kilmeade
No, I don't think it's even going to be Paraguay. I'm just concerned that it's not going to be this overwhelming. Red, white, blue, 75,000.
- [108:17]
Brian Kilmeade
Because it's California. Because it's California. And they don't like America.
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Jim Kilmeade
I don't. I hope they do, but I don't know who can afford these tickets. That's my concern. Hope I'm wrong.
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Brian Kilmeade
I mean, the tickets are pretty expensive. I know that bank of America just bought a huge number for veterans and I think a lot of people are making purchases for, I guess, working class communities because you're not going to be able to fit in the stadium. And I don't think they're sold out across the country. Yeah.
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Jim Kilmeade
Which is a head scratcher. Because at this time, I remember in 94. It was pretty much sold out. But it was a whole different world there. You weren't living on your phone in that. In that era, there was not. The secondary market was a fraction of what it is right now or the third level market. So that's only my concern. Listen, there's bigger things to be concerned about. But that crowd I thought had a huge piece of our performance.
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Brian Kilmeade
All right, so Jim, tell me about your team. You guys playing through this? The MLS is not playing, but you guys are.
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Jim Kilmeade
Yeah, everything but the usl. Npsl. All playing through the. The World Cup. The lower divisions. The United States of America. We're playing the npsl. This is a jersey reveal day today, which is why I'm not in a suit and tie like you are. This is our new jersey. The Legion kit by Macron for the American soccer club Fighting Tomcats.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yeah, we do have a dress code, but I'm letting this slide for now.
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Jim Kilmeade
But that's.
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Brian Kilmeade
This is your new jersey.
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Jim Kilmeade
This is our new jersey just hit today. Life fact Bowler markets on the front, our 250 logo on the shoulder. PSO logo here. So we got a big game on Saturday right after. The US has a great performance against Germany on Saturday. We play 6pm at night here on the east Coast. Mitchell Athletic Complex versus New Haven United. So it's a big soccer weekend.
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Brian Kilmeade
All right, I want you to hear what it sounded like cut 67 when the US played Senegal. Pulisic across goal and it's knocked in from Dest. 1 nil for the United States. Serginio Dest with a goal. 1 push forward down the right side for Pepe to chase. Pulisic is in the middle. Pepe rolls it in. It's Christian Pulisic around the keeper. It's Pulisic with a goal. So goal and assist for Pulisic. So you want. You want your guy to score and feel like he got it. Landon Donovan talked about the needing to get one and then the rest will come. So Jim, where do we go for tickets to. To the American soccer For the American Soccer Club.
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Jim Kilmeade
As youw'll go in there for tickets. It's gonna be a great crowd, great weather. Hopefully on Saturday. Gonna be great.
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Brian Kilmeade
But this is the last time without a college shirt.
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Jim Kilmeade
Okay, next time I'm back with the college shirt after we get a US.