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Tyrus: You Can’t Negotiate With People Who Don’t Value Your Existence
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The Brian Kilmeade Show 07-14-2026
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Brian Kilmeade
From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division, it's Brian Kilmeade.
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Tyrus
What it is, do not adjust your sets or your volume. It is Tyrus filling in for the great Brian Kilmeade on the Brian Kilmeade Show. And I'm gonna start. It's a little awkward this morning. I came in to fill in for him and he left this apparent he's too cheap to buy eight by tens. And he has artist renditionings laying around his office to remind me that it is his show. So not necessary. Brian, I think your name on every corner of this office and the height at this desk lets everyone know this is your show. But good morning, everyone. Excited to be here. I'm going to start out a little bit somber. I want to talk about, take a moment to reflect on the great Lindsey Graham. I had the opportunity to meet him a couple of times and he was one of the nicest, coolest dudes in the room. He knew my name, which was shocking to me because a lot of times when you meet career big time politicians, they don't necessarily know who you are. They need someone to run over and introduce you. And he knew who I was exactly and was like, hey, Tyrus, how are you doing? And I was really impressed by that. But I want to play real quick some thoughts. Senator Dick Durbin has some really, I think, summed it up best.
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Carl Rove
I would like to take a moment to recognize his lifetime of public service both in the state of South Carolina and our nation. I served with Lindsey Graham in the Senate for more than two decades. And during that time I counted him as a trusted friend. I will tell you, Mr. President, that my friends and supporters back in Illinois many times would just shake their head and say, durbin, what are you doing with Lindsey? You shouldn't be working with him. They didn't know how the Senate works and they certainly did know him. He was proud to be a fierce Republican partisan, but he never lost sight of the need to work across the aisle to make a difference in the lives of Americans.
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Tyrus
You know, because he put the job, he put the country over, over a tent. He was a patriot. And I think in the strongest definition of that word. And I think, and I hate to say this, but in the time that we are living in right now, we don't have much trust or faith in our politicians, especially in the House or Senate, especially when it comes to one particular thing, net worth. And we see a lot of House members and Senate members who are millionaires hundred millionaires, own three and four mansions, summer homes, fly private jets, et cetera. His net worth at the time of his passing was what it should be for a person who has been serving in public service his entire his life. And I just can't. That is all the evidence you need in terms of who he was as a person and what it meant to him to be a Republican, to be a senator, and more importantly, to be an American. And that, to me, we lost one of the good ones. And that to me is a little scary or I'm hoping will inspire Americans across the country to look at the character of the person that represents their state, not what animal you vote for, whether it's a donkey or an elephant, or whether they, how many followers they have on social media or auditions or mainstream media promoting them as something they're not. Listen to the words that they say. And most importantly, after what they say, the actions that come behind them. If someone is running to represent you and the only thing they're doing is attacking the other side, that is not a person who has any interest in running for you, representing you. They are trying to get a job for themselves. And I think across the board, nobody could say that for Lindsey Graham. And listen, he was the one guy who didn't always have the greatest relationship with the president. They, he ran against him. They, they feuded, they had issues, they had arguments. But when it came time for policy, when it came time to doing the right things for America, there was no issues there. And he would work across the aisle. And it wasn't just for the sake of saying, actually he never really talked about it. He talked about his plans and his policies. And I think that's what was so rare and it shouldn't be, but we're going to miss him, not just for the, the person he was, but for the work he did. Because he was one of the few guys that didn't fall in to the trap of, of picking one side and becoming against everything the other side is doing. And we understand now, and it is my opinion the reason why they do that so often is because it's more profitable. You make a lot of money from lobbyists and special interest and NGOs and all that stuff to just disrupt, to be anti Trump. And if, if a Democrat's in, you're anti Democrat. That doesn't help the American people. That doesn't help our country. And we've seen the results of that. We saw during the pandemic, we saw during the Biden administration. We're Seeing with what when President Trump, both of his terms, when he was in. Where they just. The answer is no, no matter what, because they don't like him. And so it is. It saddens me that we lose such a great man so early. You know, the other side of it is, and take it from somebody who, who had to lose a bunch of weight because I wanted to be around for my kids, you have to, no matter how busy you are, no matter how much you are fighting, working, paying bills, chasing the American dream, you have to take care of yourself. You have to go to doctors. You have to stay on top of things, especially when you're getting older. Man. I know particularly because I only speak for one, because that's what I am. And I'm not, you know, not transitioning anytime soon. So when it comes to your health, we kind of have this invincibility complex where we think, oh, we're fine, we're fine. And I was like that for a long time. And I, I beat my body up in, in, in sports and, and bodyguard wrestling, powerlifting, all that stuff, football. And I kind of had this thing where, I'm fine, I'm fine. If I don't see anything, I'm fine. I don't need to go to doctors. A lot of people feel that way. You go to a doctor, you get sick. But when it comes to, when you're, you need to stay on top of seeing a physician. Learn as much as you can about your diet. If you have any heart issues, they're not going to go away. You need to make sure you take care of yourself. And I think, unfortunately, we have to learn all of that. And another thing, since I'm rifting here about Mr. Graham, he did some amazing things. He was a really outstanding person. And it's sad that I did a lot of the stuff that I didn't even know about. You know, it's particular about how he adopted his sister. That is absolutely stand up. And they had a very close relationship. And I want to, I want to play a quick flashback number six, where he's talking about this is. Then just give you some context. This was when he was running for president in 2015 about giving his sister a role should he win.
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Carl Rove
If she took a role on, she would be a great representative of our country. I can't think of a better person to represent our country in an event than my sister.
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Tyrus
So he was on top of everything else, he was a family man. When you lose both your parents, you can become a bitter person. You really Learn about who you are when the chips are down. And he was just, I'm just so impressed that we didn't really know a lot of these things, because he wasn't a braggadocious man. He was a direct man. He. He took on problems. He didn't care whether you and the guy that he was working with, they would play golf together or they would be friends. He cared about getting things done for the American people. And I didn't always agree with everything that he was about. And there was times that, you know, I would hear some of his things and I'd be like, I don't like that. I don't agree. But that's the whole point. I think you, we all should have discourse. We all like. If you believe in absolute everything, if you agree with everything President Trump says and you agree with that, you're really not. It's like the person who's friends with everybody, which means you're friends with no one, that you have to have your belief system and, and you, you can't. You're not going to see eye to eye on everything. And that's the point is when you don't see eye to eye on things, that's when you have debate. That's when the best ideas come about. Just every time someone says something like, yes, I'm in, yes, I'm in, yes, and you're. That yes man thing, but it ends up hurting everyone in the long one. And nobody wins, because eventually you're going to be backing bad ideas and mistakes, and nobody is going to look at you with any credibility if you cannot stand your ground on the things you believe in. And I believe the term is that you find the Hill you're going to die on. And that's important, too. Again, it goes to the other side, which we see literally. President Trump will come out and be like, I have a cure for cancer. And half of the Senate, a little less than half, because we, we can't let them have more than half. Right now. Would literally be like, what, you didn't. You didn't cure the cold? Like, they would just find something to be negative about. And Lindsey Graham was not those things. And I'm going to run one more. Number seven. This is Governor Henry McMasters talking about his sister and possibly filling Lindsey Graham's Senate seat.
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Carl Rove
Lindsey took care of his little sister in years long departed. It's my honor to ask his little sister, Darlene Graham, to finish his work for him.
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Kat Timpf
Now I want to thank the governor for selecting me to serve the remainder of Lindsay's term. It is such an honor.
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Tyrus
Lindsay has always been there for me,
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Reagan Charleston
and now I will be there for him.
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Tyrus
I just, I don't know. I get goosebumps when I hear this. When I hear her voice, what we were talking, that reminds her. What were you saying that reminds you of? Was it Denim Moore from Landmore? They have the same voice. And I was like, I only watched a couple episodes of that. But, yeah, I'm with you on that. But I just, I think we definitely know his, his, his work will continue. And his sister and him had a really amazing relationship. And I just think, governor, well done. And I think we're in, we're in good shape. South Carolina is in good shape. And I hope in his passing, it would be a wake up call for those who are serving the American people to be better, do better, put the country first. And put your wallet back in your back pocket where it's supposed to be again. Wherever you are, sir, I wish you well and you can rest now.
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Brian Kilmeade
Keeping you informed, engaged, and always a step ahead. It's the Brian Kill Me show.
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Tyrus
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Brian Kilmeade
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Tyrus
What it is, Tyrus in filling in for Brian Kilmeade today. And honestly, man, I know that it's funny because feeling being in his, this little guy's office, it's. I feel trapped. I literally feel like a, a buffalo in a, in a china shop. Like, I just, even his little keyboard and stuff, I can't fit my knees under it. I got to sit back. Like, even his headphones are a little tight. But, you know, last night on the Gutfeld show, I was, I was hosting and we talked a lot about the, we talked about the bison incident. And I was looking at, I was looking over some of the comments, and it was everything from ranging like, how could you possibly make a joke about this? And, and then, you know, there was a lot of funny stuff and they were like, apparently there was some rumor that he had a Miami dolphin shirt on and, and, you know, go bills. You know, and there was one that said like, Bison 1, Grandpa 0. But, you know, and there was one in particular this person was like, he was within the required 24ft, you know, and this. And I'm like, who do you think explained that to the bison? Like, hey, hey, relax bro. He's, he's, he's 25ft out. Like they just, Mother nature doesn't follow the rules that we have in line. You know, like we just assume you should always, always respect mother Nature. And I'm like I said I like being the outdoors. I have a lot of pets. I've like I said early in college I wanted to be a zoologist and I just wasn't that hip on the dissection labs. It got pretty, you know, got pretty rough in there. And when it was like time to cut up puppies and stuff, I tapped out. And I get it because it's the science of things. But as far as mother nature, I enjoyed a lot. And a little known Tyrus fact is that during my time at the University of Kearney at Nebraska, I spent some time on a bison ranch. And they raised bison for their meat, which is freaking delicious. Bison steaks and ground beef. Bison burger is the best burger ever. Like, it's just absolutely phenomenal. And one of the things that was going on during that time was everyone was trying to breed bison with cows to make beefalos, which was going to revolutionize the, the meat industry. A couple things didn't quite go to plan. One, the beefalo were sterile, so you couldn't like breed them and you had to, always had to do it from a bison and cow situation. And there was some deformities. We'll just say that it's not, it was, it's not a good match. And so it didn't really work out. So a lot of farmers who ran out and bought all these bison to make beefalo, we're now stuck with bison. And where I was visiting and working out for a little bit of the summer, they had a large herd of bison. I think it was almost like 60 animals. And there was some rules and there were some things that you needed to know at all times. And the one thing about a bison is that they don't keep secrets. They are, they, their tail is basically what you need to watch. And a lot of people see because of dog owners, you see a wagging tail on a dog, you think it's a happy thing. Well, we also know now that that also can mean nervous and you can get bit by a wagging tail. A bison, if you go back and you look at that video when he's rolling around, he's he's also letting you. He's wagging his tail excessively, letting you know that he is extremely agitated. When they wag their little tail. That means you need to go away, go away. Now then, when that tail goes straight up, it is. Get in whatever religion you have, now is the time, and that's the charge. But you should always keep your distance. And they're as. Not as big and powerful as they are. They spook easy. And I. One of the scariest moments of my life and a real test to my best friend, Vashon. We were out there and we. They had, you know, at the bison ranch, they had steers, they had bison, they had horses. And they had this thing where after they would slaughter the bison for the meat and stuff, one of the things that they sold, the skulls, the horns, the, the pelts, all that stuff was used. And they would dry the skulls out on a fence. And the fence was. There was like a walkway and on one side of it was steers who can be little bastards themselves. Like a steer is not. Is. They're. They can be dangerous as well. Don't sleep on cows. Cows can be dangerous. I know, like cow tipping. Good luck, first of all. Can't do it. But anyways, it can be dangerous. You have steers on one side, you have bison on the other side, and you have to walk down this. This alley and they have the feed troughs. And you walk down this alley and you get to the. You get to the fence and that's where the skulls are. And one of the things they have workers do to show that they've got it is they walk down. You have to walk down between the alley and pull a tooth out of the skull of the boat. And then they make a necklace out of it. And I want to do this. My friend wanted to do this. And so we started walking quietly, gingerly down the thing. Not. Because if the thing is, this steer will. Will buck around and hit the bar, a bison herd will go into a stampede like it looks like a tornado. And they can jump. And we get halfway down there and almost there, almost there. And a damn farm cat jumped up and the bison spooked. I ran and left my friend, and he was just stuck there. He froze. I got to the thing. I did get the tooth, albeit. But me and him weren't white for a long time. So when it comes to bison, respect the distance, pay attention to the signs and leave him alone. This is Tyrus in the Brian Kidman
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Brian Kilmeade
Show, A radio show like no other. It's Brian Kilmeade.
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Carl Rove
So we're doing another major attack tonight. They want to make a deal. They came back, we made a deal two days ago, and they want to make a deal. They've been negotiating for 47 years, but nobody's ever hit them militarily. We're hitting them very hard.
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Tyrus
Yeah, he's, they are definitely, I believe the term is F around. And find out what happens when you, you break your word with the United States and the president is, is doing what needs to be done. And joining me now to discuss this, one of my favorite people and he's been gracious enough to come on last few times I've had the opportunity to host the Brian Kilmeade Show. But Lieutenant Colonel Allen West, American Constitutional Rights Union Executive director. Man, what a title. Former congressman in Florida's 22nd congressional district in the House from 2011 to 2013. And just a, just a great all around man. Mr. West, thank you so much for joining me today.
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Allen West
Hey, Tyrus, it's a pleasure to be with you. And thank you for those kind words, my friend.
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Tyrus
Oh, yeah. So, you know, I can't think of anyone better to discuss all things Iran with right now. And at the top, President Trump makes a strong distinction between the 47 years of baseless negotiations because apparently the only thing that they understand is forceful negotiations.
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Allen West
Yeah, yeah. In the Middle east, two things is most respected is strength and might. And when you're dealing with a totalitarian, theocratic, maniacal regime whose whole reason for existence is this return of the Hidden Imam, the Mahdi, and the fact that you have to have a catastrophic event for that return and then their global domination, you cannot sit down. As it says in the book of Isaiah, come, let us reason together. That's not going to happen. So the only thing that you can do is put them in a position where that regime ends up collapsing. You have to separate it out. And there can never be normal relations with people that are deeply rooted in that theocracy that they have. So I think right now the president realizes that you cannot talk with these people. The whole thing about a business transaction having a deal with them is nonsensical, truthfully. And so you have to go after their centers of gravity, which is them being able to have oil and gas revenues. You also have seen the Department of Treasury now going after the personal finances of the Supreme Leader. And I think that you'll see more of the personal finances of those in leadership be taken after. And yes, the United States of America needs to have control of the Strait of Hormuz and not the number one sponsor of Islamic terrorism in the world having control of that strait because.
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Tyrus
And you hit on the thing, you cannot negotiate with a group that does not see any value in your existence.
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Kat Timpf
No.
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Carl Rove
And in their existence.
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Tyrus
Yes. And that's the one thing is like, what type of leader would see his country being blown to hell and would play with his civilians lives the way they do? They absolutely put no value in their people. They don't care if they starve. They don't care. They will. If they, if they speak out against them, they execute him. So really, I think the only way this thing eventually is going to work is when there is no more Ayatollahs. I think that's the only way the Iranian people will ever get a whiff of freedom.
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Allen West
No, you're absolutely right. And when you look at the Iranian people, they're Persian first and foremost, and it's a very young population and they want to have those liberties and freedoms. Just look at what recently happened with the Iranian girls women's soccer team there in Australia, who many of them sought to, you know, seek us out. They didn't want to go back. And how shameful it is that all of these feminists and Megan Rapinoe and where was their voices then to stand up and speak out for those women or any of these feminists, you know, speaking out for the women who suffer such horrific, you know, conditions there in Iran? You hear nothing from them. So, yes, the ayatollahs, mullahs, clerics, imams, all of these people cannot be in a leadership position. And I think that when you see that radical theocracy that they have there, you cannot have a normal country as long as those people are in some semblance of control.
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Tyrus
I mean, and you make. That is amazing that this is the one situation that you would think women across the world.
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Allen West
Yeah.
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Tyrus
Would be outraged and the, the blowback would be almost as devastating as a physical military attack. But there's no. It's basically deaf. It's a. You hear nothing, but yet you will hear all the complaints in the world about America. You know, whereas, you know, it's just absolutely. You know, they'll sit there and argue about wanting boys playing in women's sports all day, but they won't stand up for women who, who will have their, in a lot of cases, heads cut off for if they show their face or speak out or try to educate themselves or drive a car. Like, it's just absolutely insane.
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Allen West
Yeah. Hung in Public or being in public because hijab or their dress is not properly worn, things of this nature, or look at some of the things that are happening in Afghanistan. You know, I just saw last night the clip of someone posting out there this lgbtq, you know, cruise ship that is being denied entry. All of a sudden, it's Donald Trump's fault. It's not the fault that these people are. These are Muslim countries, and they have no regard for gay, lesbian lifestyles. Matter of fact, that's something punishable by death.
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Tyrus
Throw you off a building stone, you.
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Allen West
Yeah. So again, why aren't we standing up and saying, in this 250th year of our independence that, you know, there are people that disregard some of the basic human rights, liberties and freedoms that we embrace here in the United States of America. So I think that we have to do a better job of really demonizing the Iranian regime and who they are and what they have done to their people and get that clear. And I think, again, you know, Donald Trump has to finally understand you cannot make a deal with the devil. You can only do one single thing, and that is to destroy him and to defeat him. They are weakened, there's no doubt about it, but they are still a very arrogant, belligerent, obtuse regime, and therefore, you have to defeat them.
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Tyrus
And the president, you know, he made some comments on plans to charge for the blockade passage. And I'm going to. I'm going to play that for you so you can hear it and get your thoughts on that.
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Carl Rove
We've had 10 deals with these people, and so we're just going to hit them very hard. And we're going to. We're going to keep the straight, and we'll probably run it. We'll become the guardian of the strait. We guarded the Strait for 50 years more, and we never got paid for it. They made all the money, and the United States was just, you know, not. They wouldn't. It's amazing. It's. We never made. We guarded it for nothing, and now we're going to guard it, and we're going to get paid for guarding it. A lot of money, but we just want to be reimbursed for doing all of this, for putting our people in danger, but we're really not putting people. We're really saving people,
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Tyrus
you know, and I think. I can't see where the contention comes from that I can't see the blowback. I mean, that it sounds like it just. It makes sense to me, and it has nothing to do with Being a Republican or a Democrat, this is how you deal with monsters now.
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Allen West
You're absolutely right. And again, you're looking at. Our nation has really worked toward energy independence. So much of the oil and gas revenue, I mean, resources that are coming, this is flowing for the rest of the world to include our number one geopolitical foe, which is China. So if we're the ones that are opening up that strait, then we should have some benefit. These are our young men and women who are standing on the ramparts to keep that strait open. So there should be some benefit for them, as well as the resources that we have, the munitions that we are using, the energy resources that we're using for our ships and for our helicopters and for our airplanes. So, yes, there should be some compensation to the United States of America for that. Again, when you look at all of these resources that we have frozen from the Iranians, let's use that for the victims of the terrorism here in America. From the Iranians going back to 1983, the 241 Marines, sailors and soldiers who were killed in the Beirut barracks bombing, or those who have lost their limbs or lost their lives because of the explosive force penetrator IEDs that they brought to the battlefield in Iraq and Afghanistan. So we should definitely. That's part of an America first policy, if you want to look at it that way.
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Tyrus
You know, and I also think sometimes we are a. In terms of dealing with enemies like this, we. We almost are. Are handicapped in the sense that we fight and we abide by rules and they don't, you know, and I think they. They know that, you know, and they. And they almost. I think it was Machiavelli who said the biggest problem with dealing with your enemy is that you don't fight under the same rules.
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Allen West
No, you're absolutely right. And I will tell you that that has been one of the problems we have had ever since we started fighting against Islamic terrorism and jihadism because they don't have any rules whatsoever. And we try to, you know, have the rules of the land of law, land warfare, things of this nature. So I think right now what we're doing is we're prosecuting a combat operation that is going after their military assets. They are going after any civilian that they wish and that they desire, which is their nature. And even when you look at the Israelis in Gaza, I mean, who goes out and, you know, sends telephone messages or text messages and say that we're about to strike right here, please evacuate this area. So, you know, people are doing Everything they possibly can to accommodate the lessening of civilian casualties. But yet you're dealing with a regime that, you know, back in January this year, you know, 30, 40,000 executed a 19 year old wrestler, one of their quote unquote national heroes. So we have got to unleash the full power and might diplomatic, informational, military, economic, against this regime and send a message to the people that want to support Islamic jihadism and terrorism.
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Tyrus
Because, you know, and you make a great point with how they deal with stuff because when Israel and when America does tell them, hey, the bomb is coming, a lot of times that's, they'll move their civilians into that area. Oh yeah, oh yeah, they will, they will hide their military and hospital and schools and then put the children in there knowing that it's coming. And then, you know, of course the pushback is, you know, that we're, you know, the ridiculous woke thing is that America is participating in genocide. No, it's, it's, it's absolutely laughable. And I do, here's the thing, I think to play devil's advocate because the other, the oil that's coming out of there and the resources are coming out of there is more for the rest of the world. I guess there's, there could be an argument made, we'll let them figure it out. But the, the problem with that and I think is that they don't,
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Allen West
well, they, the, the people on the ground there don't have the ability to figure it out. Because guess what? Unlike us here in the United States of America, we have this little thing called the second Amendment. I know that the left would like to eradicate that. So just. Yeah, well, they want to have the same ability that you see the regime in Iran has. That's the Marxist nature. But you know, the people in Iran want to have a better way of life, a better quality of life. And they're tired of seeing all the revenues from their oil and gas industry be done for what? To export terrorism, to support Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis and who knows whomever else. So yes, I think that if there's one thing that we can do, we can set the conditions, some type of toppling of this regime internally by making sure that the regular army of Iran can side with the people and stand up against the Revolutionary Guard Corps, which is kind of like the Praetorians now. I mean they protect the regime, they don't care about the people.
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Reagan Charleston
Right.
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Tyrus
And you're also dealing with a lot of. Because some of the things when they talk about negotiating, I'M like with who? Because a lot of these generals and these things are basically warlords and they're pirates and they're, they whatever one group says they're going to do, the other side's like and then they'll go shoot missiles, you know, so they're not. It's really a broken system with and has no desire to fix itself. Even if we, even if we were to flood them with money, they wouldn't be building schools and homes. They'd be finding a way to build new missiles. I mean it just go ahead.
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Allen West
No, I mean you're absolutely right because again it comes back to their theocracy. They could care less about their people. It is all about what they believe in. Which is quite demented, deranged, delusional and maniacal.
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Tyrus
And then just because I, I love. Every time he opens his mouth it's a good chance for me to just show what the, what the worst is in being a public official supposed to be serving the people. And that's Senator Adam Schiff. He had some thoughts on Meet the Press. I'm gonna play this for you.
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Carl Rove
It's very difficult to see the way out of what has become a kind of a quagmire. This memorandum of understanding was so vague that you see all the problems with essentially agreeing to agree in the future. I think you're also seeing the problems with embarking on a war of choice. A war that the president got this country involved in not because we were attacked or because there was an imminent threat of attack, but because he chose to do so. It was, I think, ill thought out. He never came to Congress for any authorization. So it was also unconstitutional and unlawful.
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Tyrus
So pretty much everything he said there was a lie and not a threat. Sir, our borders were open for four years and we were flooded with military aged men.
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Carl Rove
Yes.
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Tyrus
Hundreds of thousands, millions. We still don't know because it was just they were being bussed in the night. I travel every week for work. I. I can remember seeing flights going out. I'm like we don't get red eyes. Why do they do. And I just real quick, I could talk to you for hours.
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Brian Kilmeade
Sir.
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Tyrus
I just learned it's the being under the learning tree with you is phenomenal. I learn every time and I really enjoy our time together. But just get your last thoughts on this and then we're out of time.
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Allen West
Well, I will tell you that. Where was Adam Sheriff when Barack Obama unconstitutionally outsourced our military to Islamic Jihadi in Libya? He didn't say anything and that went on for seven months. Where was Adam Schiff and the rest of these Marxist leftists when Barack Obama and Joe Biden were providing billions of dollars back to Iran, which did not, as you say, go to improving schools or infrastructure. It went to vomiting terrorism. So again, the hypocrisy is laughable.
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Tyrus
And I just want to say, man, I appreciate you taking time out to come on and discuss things, man, and you are just a fountain, fountain of knowledge. And I appreciate your time, sir. And at some point, please consider getting back in there. We need you.
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Allen West
Well, you know, I think you need to have an interview with Mrs. West on that one.
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Tyrus
Oh, yes, sir. Okay, enough said. Thank you so much. Be well, sir.
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Allen West
All right. God bless you. Take care. Tyrus.
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Brian Kilmeade
Yep, real talk, real guests, real insight. Where curiosity meets conversation nation. It's the Brian Kilmeade show. The more you listen, the more you'll know it's Brian Kilmeade.
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Tyrus
What it is, it's Tyrus in for Brian Kilmeade today. And you know what? If you like the sound of my voice and you like some of the stories I say and you like my little sense of humor, you should probably come check me out on the Planet Tyrisk comedy tour. You can get tickets at Link Tree, Tyrus Smash. I'm going to be all over starting August 10th, going all the way to October 17th. I'm going to be, I got a huge, I got dates in Grapevine, Texas, Humble, Texas, H is Silent, Texarkana, Texas, Augusta, Kansas, Concordia, Kansas, Omaha, Nebraska, Cedar Rapids, Iowa. I'll be in Grosse Pointe, I'll be in Fayetteville, Arkansas, Venice, Florida, Niceville, Florida, where they're nice, Dothan, Alabama and over Massachusetts, Rochester, New Hampshire, Middletown, Ohio, Lakewood, Ohio and Loveland, Colorado. So I am going to be everywhere and a lot. And for some, like the Texas area, because of demand, we'll be changing the tour. The next tour will be in different cities. So in a lot of these cases, this will be the last time you'll be able to see me in these locations as the tour is continue to grow and there's other parts of the country that want to see me. So if you want tickets, check it out. Appreciate your support. Again, that's Planet Tyrus Comedy tour that you can get tickets on. Linktree, Tyrus at Slash. Tyrus Smash. Enough said.
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Brian Kilmeade
From the Fox News radio studios in midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmeade,
- [37:19]
Tyrus
What it is, this is Tyrus filling in for Brian Kilmeade on the Brian Kilmeade Show. I always have to say his name twice. Joining me now is Reagan Charleston, attorney from New Orleans, Louisiana, longtime friend, also a moment and doing a lot of things on TV lately. So congratulations. Thank you for coming in studio. What a surprise. I just want to get right, first of all, what's going on with you? How's things? You're in New York.
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Reagan Charleston
In New York. We've got an office here in Westchester. And so I came to work with my partner. And yeah, I'm doing news all over. So it's been a busy week, but a lot of cases filed and stuff going on. Kids.
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Tyrus
Well, hey, thank you for taking the time today to join the Killmead show and myself. And listen, actually, the reason why I brought you on or wanted to talk to you to get not just a woman's perspective, but a lawyer's perspective is the whole the Grant Platner debacle, probably disaster. Probably one of the worst human beings on paper to ever run for office. If I'm, you know, the Nazi tattoo alone, I thought was disqualified.
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Reagan Charleston
We should have known.
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Tyrus
Yeah.
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Reagan Charleston
Everybody. I mean, I think we did.
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Tyrus
I think, yeah. The people of Maine maybe, and the mainstream media really worked. That to me is the most shocking thing is how it was such a concentrated effort to protect such a. On paper.
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Reagan Charleston
Awful person.
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Tyrus
Awful person. Yes. And the worst, the most, the one of the worst stories came out right before. And I always, I always hate when something drops right before an election because I feel like it should have came way earlier. But Jake Tapper had an interview with and I don't know if I'm gonna say her name right. Jenny Raycott. Is it Rack Hot? Raycott.
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Carl Rove
Raycott.
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Tyrus
I did it. Wow. I did it. Awesome. And it was about that the incident between her and him was not consensual. And I'm gonna play number 26 for you.
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Carl Rove
Is there any way that he thought this was consensual or no?
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Tyrus
Just because I don't believe that you
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Jenny Raycott
can think that that scenario is consensual. You have to, you have to understand that that wasn't. When somebody is repeatedly, I mean, when somebody in the middle of it says, don't touch me, like that's obviously not consensual.
- [39:43]
Tyrus
So not consensual means rape. Correct?
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Kat Timpf
Correct.
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Tyrus
And I guess and I'm just going to keep rolling through if we can just hear them all and then we'll discuss. If you could go into 27, please.
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Carl Rove
I know that you have been very reluctant to tell this story Very reluctant. Why did you ultimately decide to do it? Why come forward?
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Jenny Raycott
A few reasons. One of the biggest ones is that I think that there are a lot of men in this world relying on the silence of women and to be where they are, and they don't want to contribute to that. I also want to just get my life back.
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Tyrus
So when she said that, I was. That makes sense, right? The wording is. Was a little weird to me, but I guess you could understand where she's coming from as a woman.
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Reagan Charleston
Not just as a woman. As a sex abuse attorney, like, I, you know, I file these cases, I work with survivors, and this is not uncommon. This is something that I hear from everyone. Coming forward is traumatic. It's difficult. It's never going to sound perfect. It's not going to seem linear to other people. And so listening to her, you know, I get that gut punch feeling because that's something that you hear from a lot of people. And I can imagine that sitting and watching Platner take off and, you know, she's watching him potentially, like, get elected, and everyone celebrating him had to be really hard to stomach and probably propelled her to come forward. And I like what she said about, you know, relying on the silence of women, but not just women, people that have been through traumatic experiences and, you know, sexual abuse. And I don't find it unusual that she's just now waiting to come forward. I think that it probably pushed her to come forward because to deal with that and then to see him potentially get elected is right.
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Tyrus
And that's. And that's exactly why I asked you. Because as a man, and not just an alpha man, as a giant man, I don't, you know, if I say no, it ain't happening. So for that way of looking at it, I didn't even think of it that way. So for me, that gives me a little bit of clarity. And then we'll go into 28.
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Carl Rove
There are going to be people, maybe even his campaign, certainly his supporters, who say this is politically motivated. What would you say to that?
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Jenny Raycott
I couldn't disagree more. That was actually one of the reasons that I didn't come out.
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Tyrus
Because you agree with his politics?
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Jenny Raycott
I do. I really agree with his politics. I think we need somebody with those political stances and who are willing to do the work. And, you know, I see his political videos. They get me fired up as well. I understand why people want someone like him in office, you know, and I felt like me coming forward would essentially potentially take that away. And I felt really uncomfortable with the responsibility of. And the weight of my story and. And what that might do.
- [42:56]
Tyrus
That blows my mind. Like I would again, from the man's perspective. I would think the sound of his voice would make you sick, you know. And I guess that's where I like
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Reagan Charleston
it had to have been really hard for her to come forward. And I think it's a powerful thing to do considering how much focus. We're not talking about someone that's coming forward against a non public person. Like she knew this was going to be a media firestorm and she had to really like weigh her options here. And I don't know, man. It's smoke and fire. Like there was a lot of smoke here. And you know, I'm not surprised that we're gonna find out more.
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Kat Timpf
Right.
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Reagan Charleston
We're probably just starting to peel back the layers of the on because this onion stinks. This onion stinks. And I'm sure there are going to be more women that come forward and we're going to find out more about him. As you know. You know, the cat's out of the bag.
- [43:53]
Tyrus
Yeah. And here's the thing. He is not a guy that I want to or anyone really wants to defend.
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Reagan Charleston
He's a grifter.
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Tyrus
This dude is terrible human. He's a Nazi. And I can say that with. I don't. You didn't not know what tattoo? I know every tattoo I put on exactly what it means. Referee. Oh yeah.
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Reagan Charleston
That one.
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Tyrus
Yeah.
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Brian Kilmeade
Oh.
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Tyrus
And not just anyone. The premier tattoo. The top of the line Nazi. The concentration camp insignia on your chest. Pretty specific.
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Reagan Charleston
Everything about this guy is just gross. Like he's a grifter. He was just a silver spoon boarding school brat and then he tried to pretend and he was successful being the, you know, the everyman blue collar. I'm just an oyster farmer.
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Elizabeth Pipko
No.
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Reagan Charleston
No clients with no. Yeah. No. You're also a rapist.
- [44:45]
Tyrus
Yeah.
- [44:45]
Reagan Charleston
And in any Semite. Like let's. Let's make a list of all of
- [44:51]
Tyrus
the things cornucopia of just bad, bad.
- [44:53]
Reagan Charleston
And he came so close to getting away with it. Like that is the shocking part.
- [44:57]
Tyrus
Okay, now you just said something get away with it. One of the things that I kind of was like. Because unfortunately there has been false allegations and people's lives have been potentially almost r. Especially during the Me Too era in particular. Like where it was just believe all women, you know. And I believe everyone should be heard. But then it should be.
- [45:16]
Reagan Charleston
The facts need to got to investigate. You have to vet allegations. And that's something that we Do. In our practice, we vet every case to make sure people are telling the truth. But sex abuse and sex assault is real and it happens a lot.
- [45:32]
Tyrus
Yeah.
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Reagan Charleston
And it doesn't discriminate whether you're successful or rich or you're an oyster farmer or an Ivy League boy or a woman. Women are abusers too. So like, you know, you vet the case, you look at the facts, you investigate, you look at the evidence and you determine in this case, like we knew, like you said, Sonyan stinks. So I don't think any of us are surprised.
- [45:54]
Tyrus
Now, before you came on the air, you looked up some statues. So I guess the, the question to someone would be like, why not coming forward is, is one thing and to do it on in front of the whole world, why not put his ass in jail?
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Reagan Charleston
You know, there's no indication that she's pursuing criminal charges. There's no indication that she's filed suit in a civil court. And you know, I don't, I can't say I know the particular facts on what year this happened and whether she's within the civil statute or not. For the criminal statute, I just pulled it up. I think it's, I'm not familiar, my main lawyer, but it looks like it's 20 years.
- [46:29]
Tyrus
Right.
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Reagan Charleston
So potentially, you know, charges could be brought, but it's hard, it's hard when they're an older case. I mean, there's not going to be physical evidence. You're going to be relying on basically the victim survivors testimony at that point. But, you know, we'll see. I mean, maybe Maine will decide to
- [46:46]
Tyrus
investigate because the city, the state could pick it up without necessarily her pressing charges.
- [46:52]
Elizabeth Pipko
Yeah.
- [46:52]
Tyrus
And I would think with not just the fact that any man or anyone who touches anyone without permission should be prosecuted, but I would think, given the stain this has put on Maine, that if there was a bad actor, and there clearly was, who was going to try to represent you? Not just him, but a message to other Nazi loving rapist bastards.
- [47:23]
Reagan Charleston
I mean, we're not talking about a wolf in sheep's clothing like he was in wolves clothing, like he was like, I am a wolf. Yeah, look at me.
- [47:31]
Tyrus
And the media protected him. And that's another thing. How would New York Times and these people who interviewed these women and then water down their stories, how civil wouldn't she possibly have a suit there as well?
- [47:47]
Reagan Charleston
There are probably many things that we can look at and talk about. I mean, it's shocking all the way around that this happened because it's been months, months yeah. Months that we've known about potential allegations. And, you know, it's like everyone was just covering up and kicking it, sweeping it under the rug, kicking sand over it. And it's. Here we are.
- [48:08]
Tyrus
I mean, his computer history has to be. I mean, he was on kick, which is. I didn't even know about. I didn't heard. I thought it was something like struggling athletes and actors did to try to get relevant again. Apparently. It was. Yeah, it was.
- [48:23]
Reagan Charleston
Yeah.
- [48:24]
Tyrus
It's a. Dating. It's a place where predators look for underage kids. And he's got a. His. His profile picture screams predator. I mean, he's in a towel.
- [48:32]
Reagan Charleston
I don't know about this. I need to investigate.
- [48:34]
Tyrus
Yeah, it's absolutely, absolutely insane. It's absolutely insane. I don't understand why you would not make an example out of him. I. I think that's.
- [48:43]
Reagan Charleston
There's still time.
- [48:44]
Tyrus
Yes, there is still time. And I think that's the reason why you kind of. Again, we saw the same thing with, like, Swalwell and it just seems like with these. And it's always. It was kind of every. It was known but not talked about, suspected, but you just kind of let go. And these poor staffers that had to work with them and. And unfortunately she was dating him or they were on a date or something to that extent. Is that other people around in position of powers were aware of it and clearly they're aware of it now. I don't know if you saw the guy who was in charge of the vetting. He has that voice and he was
- [49:20]
Reagan Charleston
like, oh, yes, I did. Oh, the voice. I was like, oh, of course this guy looked the other way. I mean, I hate to be like that on General.
- [49:27]
Tyrus
No, but he was in trouble. I just did a story on Gutfeld. He was in trouble, too. We don't have that, do we? Cut 21.
- [49:35]
Carl Rove
I said, none of this will or
- [49:36]
Tyrus
should stop him from becoming a U.S. senator. And what was your thinking there?
- [49:41]
Carl Rove
I think if what the voters wanted
- [49:44]
Tyrus
were people who were grown in bats and had never done or said anything that they might regret their entire lives, we'd have a very different country. Part of our thesis here is that
- [49:55]
Carl Rove
people do not want their candidates grown in bats. They want people who are real human
- [50:00]
Tyrus
beings and they want people who do
- [50:02]
Carl Rove
not look and sound like the background, people who've been leading this country off
- [50:06]
Tyrus
a cliff for last century.
- [50:10]
Carl Rove
And that was Graham.
- [50:11]
Tyrus
The laughter you're hearing is not the interviewer. It's because that's a clip from the Gut Feel show, just so you know. But Reagan asks the habit.
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Reagan Charleston
I'm gonna feel bad if he has some kind of.
- [50:21]
Tyrus
No, you hear that same voice at Starbucks, but he has a Starbucks voice.
- [50:24]
Reagan Charleston
He's a serious vocal fry then. But it's, you know, that's who vetted him.
- [50:29]
Tyrus
Yeah. And it turns out that he needed vetting. Yeah, yeah.
- [50:32]
Reagan Charleston
I mean, this is a failure on all levels.
- [50:37]
Tyrus
It's a complete quagmire to say the best. And we got to go a break. Will you say, will you come back on after the break?
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Reagan Charleston
I will.
- [50:44]
Tyrus
All right. Because we're going to talk a little bit more about this. All right. This is Tyrus filling in for Brian Kilmeade on the Brian Kilmeade Show.
- [50:52]
Brian Kilmeade
From breaking news to big name guests, Brian brings you insight you won't hear anywhere else. You're listening to the Brian Kill Me show. If you're interested in it. Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmeade.
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Tyrus
What it is. Tyrus is back filling in from Brian Kilmeade and Reagan Charleston is hanging around. Now, one of the things, things that you were, one of the things that you do, you are not just a lawyer and advocate and you have been taking on social media dealing with sex trafficking and grooming. And the last time that we talked, I know you can't talk about your cases or your clients, so I won't be stupid enough to ask you those things. But have you seen at least a shift more public awareness? Is the, as the. Is social media being more. Is there anything that's giving you more hope in this fight or is it just, oh, awesome.
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Reagan Charleston
This is the age of accountability. And I keep saying that. And so I'm on the steering committee in the California state court for the suits against Meta and Snapchat, Google and TikTok. And we just had our first bellwether trial. So what happens in these large cases is that there are so many people that have been injured that they have to consolidate it. They can't possibly try all of these cases. So you think about all the young people that have been hurt and all the children that have been hurt, that there are so many cases that they have to consolidate them and try what are called bellwethers. And they, they can, they just can't feasibly try them all. So we had our first bellwether in California state court just a couple months ago. And it was a clean sweep for the plaintiff and this young woman, KGM against Meta and Google, Snapchat and TikTok settled. We have a second bellwether that's coming up. And Snapchat is still in TikTok and Google settled this case. And the writing is on the wall. The evidence is extraordinary. The company is new. This stuff that Meta knew about how harmful its products were for children is shocking. They had Mark Zuckerberg on the stand. He tried to worm out of testifying again in the second bellwether, and Judge Kuhl said, nope, you're showing up, you're testifying again. He's a professional witness. I think they said he had like 2000 hours of training or something for his testimony. I mean, it's extraordinary.
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Tyrus
And because you need training, because you can't tell the truth.
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Reagan Charleston
Right.
- [53:20]
Tyrus
I mean, I'm not a lawyer, but
- [53:22]
Reagan Charleston
even I see that he is a professional witness, though. I mean, it is. It's so. It's just unsettling to watch as an attorney. But the jury didn't buy it. You know, the jury was pulled afterwards, and they did not find Mark Zuckerberg a reliable witness or a credible witness. They knew. They saw right through it.
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Tyrus
They have social media. They see it in their homes every day.
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Reagan Charleston
And the kids are, like, walking around glued to their phones. I do not let kids use social media. I mean, they're young, but even YouTube, I'm like, stay away from it. And that's something that I fight about all the time, because you can't control everything that's happening when you're not there. But the science is there. Like, the documents are there. And, you know, it was designed to be addictive. It was designed to keep kids hooked, and they knew that it was hurting them. So, yeah, the social media stuff is. It's extraordinary. And I think that we're seeing this profound time where the public is finally aware. And that's part of the claims. The failure to warn these companies did not warn parents that, hey, not only are your kids going to get hooked on this, but it's going to hurt them.
- [54:25]
Tyrus
Yeah.
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Reagan Charleston
And it's like big tobacco. This is our big tobacco. Where finally the public's like, this is so bad. We know it's bad, but they're targeting children. It's, you know, it's like a gambling mentality. The kids are just looking for that. That hit of dopamine.
- [54:42]
Tyrus
Yeah.
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Reagan Charleston
And it's just incredible. And then on the flip side, the predator that are using social media to groom children, to sexually abuse children, The Roblox suits. I work on the Roblox suits too. Disgusting. And the companies know they know, like you brought up kick.
- [54:59]
Tyrus
Yep.
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Reagan Charleston
They're well aware of what's going on with predators.
- [55:02]
Tyrus
Well, the predators are in trouble because you're coming for them. Best of luck. Thank you so much for coming on Reagan Charleston. You will see her everywhere. And again, this is Top Cyrus covering for Brian on the Brian Kilmeade Show.
- [55:36]
Brian Kilmeade
Radio. That makes you think this is the Brian Kilmeade show.
- [55:43]
Tyrus
What it is. This is Tyrus filling in for Brian. Kill me. And if for those of you out there who are looking, here's a picture of Brian again. I don't know why he leaves artist renditions of himself around the office, but whatever. It's. I'll just leave it over there. He even autographed it. I'm creepy. Maybe that was a gift.
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Kat Timpf
Gift.
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Tyrus
I don't know. Speaking of a gift, joining me today, Elizabeth Pipko, former GOP national spokeswoman. And we're going to talk a little bit about what's going on in this great country of ours. Hello.
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Elizabeth Pipko
Good morning.
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Tyrus
Good morning. There you are. Oh, zoom. I was looking at the phone. Well, thank you so much for joining us. I'm just going to get obviously, I want to talk to you about a little bit of everything, but you know, what's going on with Iran and the blockade in particular. And if we could roll number three and see what you get your thoughts on it.
- [56:40]
Carl Rove
We're knocking out all of their offensive capability and we're controlling the straits. We're putting the blockade back. And it's a blockade not for anybody but Iran. In other words, anybody doing business with Iran can't go through. Everyone else will be able to go through. So it's a blockade. It's versatile.
- [56:56]
Kat Timpf
Blockade.
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Carl Rove
The blockade was probably more effective even than hitting them. But I think the combination is the thing that that really does.
- [57:04]
Tyrus
You know, I talked earlier a little bit about this, but, you know, that seems to be where a lot of the mainstream media attacks about the Strait of Hormuz and the blockade. But I think this is very effective. Maybe he needs to change the name to the Iran Cade.
- [57:22]
Elizabeth Pipko
No, you're right. I think effective is the word that we're looking for because everyone in the United States seems to think that they have the foreign policy answer right. All I've heard for the last four months, and I want to stress it has only been four months, is that Donald Trump promised no more forever wars, as if four months could ever constitute a forever war. All I've heard is that whatever President Trump does end up negotiating with the Iranians could not compare it to Obama's deal yet again. The deal Obama made, which I thought was a disaster, took two years to negotiate. So everybody seems to want to scream, but no one is saying that what Donald Trump has done is no different than what's been done before. If anything, he's looking for an actual effective strategy this time and not to continue. The policy of appeasement, is what I like to call it, that we've had with Iran for decades at this point, which leads to nothing except dead Americans and dead allies of ours around the world. And I think he has proven not only that we could decimate all of the infrastructure that the IRGC has, but also that he's not willing to. To bring a bad deal home to the United States and to the people of this country. And I don't know what more you could ask a man who was critical, of course, of the wars that came before him, was critical of the Obama deal and said that we need to change drastically not only our relationship with Iran, but what the Middle east actually looks like. That's his goal for when he leaves office in two and a half years, to have a very different Middle East. And it might take a little bit longer than four months. I think the average person would assume that it should. But with that, he's going to do everything differently than what happened before. He's going to find the actual, actual effective strategies. This is something that has certainly never been done before. And it's very easy to sit here in the US and criticize, but at the end of the day, he's making the difficult decisions and I think going to institute more change than anyone before him ever could.
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Tyrus
You know, because one of the things that 47 years of baseless negotiations, the one thing that I think President Trump has been very successful at, is showing us exactly who they are, because they have made several deals, supposedly. And I personally think as long as the ayatollah, regardless of who it is, is allowed to be at the. At the head of that snake, no deal will ever be honored. And I think the brute force is the only thing they understand.
- [59:33]
Elizabeth Pipko
I agree. And I think people honestly hear the critics of everything Donald Trump has done with Iran or Donald Trump in general. Yeah, let's be honest, it's the same thing. But. But they're talking about the issue, but they're talking through both sides of their mouth. They're realizing they can get away with saying anything, so that's exactly what they do. But again, the same people criticizing him for trying to negotiate with the Iranians truly believe that Barack Obama had a genuine two year negotiation, came with a good deal at the end of it, and did it because you could have trusted the Iranians. All of a sudden they're making fun of Donald Trump for wanting to trust the Iranians and they're angry at Donald Trump for admitting that you obviously cannot trust trust the Iranians. They're angry at him when he bombs them, they're angry at him when he doesn't bomb them again. Donald Trump cannot do anything right with his critics. Everybody knows that. But anyone that cares about America's best interest, anyone that's followed this history, knows what Iran and its proxies have done to United States allies around the world, and of course to us as well for 47 years, as you said, knows that this has to come to an end. And with that, it means new effective strategies. It means a different kind of negotiation. Sometimes it even means a conflict. Conflict. It's horrible. But that's what has to happen to drastically change the relationship that we hold with the Middle East. And for Donald Trump to leave office knowing again, unlike everyone who came before him, he actually made a difference. He didn't just keep the ball rolling like Barack Obama's deal did, which again did not stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. All it did was delay their ability to get that nuclear weapon and pin that problem on the next president. Donald Trump does not want to do that. He doesn't want the future citizens of our country worried about a nuclear Iran. He wants to end this while he has two and a half years in office to do so. So it may take longer than four months. It probably will and it probably should. It's a very complicated problem. You're trying to negotiate with a monster who wants us off the face of the earth with that. We have probably the best commander in chief we could have to get that done. And I truly believe the only person willing to risk any political capital, willing to risk the midterms, willing to risk it all to try and save the future of our country.
- [61:23]
Tyrus
Well, you know, in a couple of things that I believe the term that the left, and they like to use the word quagmire, that's their, that's their hot word of the. When they talk about this, you want to talk about a quagmire? A quagmire is millions of military age men flooding into this country over a four year period.
- [61:43]
Elizabeth Pipko
Yeah.
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Tyrus
The quagmire is Barack Obama's administration made a deal. Clearly it didn't work. Hence we Wouldn't have had to blow their nuclear development to holy hell because they were months away from having a functioning. You know, they were a threat. They took, they got their money back. They didn't invest in their people. They certainly didn't build new things for their people. They built their armada. They funded terrorism. So I don't understand how any commander in chief sitting in that chair would not have to take the same exact. Do we want to wait till we have a October 7th here before we pay attention? Because not just that, our allies who are in firing distance of them wake up every day in their backyard with the possibility of this monster. And I think this action has brought all this to the table and I don't. Where are the feminists? Where are the liberals? People are for speaking their mind. A 19 year old young man, athlete who was supposed to be the star of their country was murdered. People, what thousands were brought out into the streets. Women are beaten, ceremoniously raped if they show their own. I mean where, where this should be. The liberals should be jumping all over this.
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Elizabeth Pipko
There's a lot of things the liberals should be jumping all over, including their own party right now, but they don't do that. Look, you mentioned October 7th. I mean the amount of effort that I have put in to try to explain to people that I meet on the street that October 7th is not just some isolated Israeli problem. Not only is Israel our ally, not only was October 7th launched by obviously Hamas, a proxy of Iran that they would launch love to do here again in the United States or anywhere else in the world, but there were dozens of American lives lost on October 7th as well. When I was criticizing Joe Biden and Kamala Harris for not working actively to get our hostages out, I was saying our hostages because there were Americans that were held hostage. There's a reason we have this alliance with Israel. There's a reason they want Israel gone and the United States of America gone, there's a reason, as you said, that we have allowed apparently how many military age men into our country which we now have, have proof of actual ties to Iran. We know that there are terrorists in our country. There are folks here who do not love America, who want to inflict harm. What happened on October 7 was a trial run for them. That's what they want to inflict.
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Tyrus
Thousand percent. I'm glad you made me say that again.
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Elizabeth Pipko
First and foremost in the United States of America, that is their dream, you
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Tyrus
know, because they have no desire to assimilate. Because no. And that's another reason I think negotiations are a problem because they don't see any value in our way of life. If anything it is. You cannot negotiate with someone who does not think that you are, that you should. Your existence is necessary.
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Jenny Raycott
Right.
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Elizabeth Pipko
Also when you negotiate you try to see who has what and what they can bring to the table. And the problem is that when we threaten them with military action, they don't really care because if Iranians are murdered, they were murdering Iranians before the exactly started. They were murdering their own. They worry about a few IRGC leaders but as long as they can hide them, they don't actually care what damage America inflicts. Donald Trump was trying to avoid a conflict because when he was at the negotiation table, despite probably people his administration telling him it's enough we have to just bomb the crap out of them, he was saying I don't want to do that because I care about innocent Iranian life. He actually cares about innocent Iranian life more than the leaders of that country. This is an IRGC leadership who couldn't care less who wants to slaughter their own in the street, who think it make them stronger to slaughter their own and who celebrate when the United States of America slaughters their own because it means they have better talking points and can shout death to America even louder. So for them that is a victory. So it's very hard to negotiate like you said, with an actual snake who wants the death of their own people and the death of the United States of America and has no interest in good faith negotiations.
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Tyrus
The one thing I would push back is there's no reason to besmirch snakes. I own several in there.
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Elizabeth Pipko
Do you?
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Tyrus
Yes, yes I do.
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Elizabeth Pipko
But maybe you should be at the negotiating table.
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Tyrus
You know what. Because I just feel like. And here's, I guess we could maybe some of the pushback is, is that obviously Iranians bloodline is their oil and their resources and their, and in America we have become pretty self efficient so opening up to make sure. And even one of our biggest rivals relies on their for oil production.
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Jenny Raycott
Yeah.
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Tyrus
And we are still trying to be able to allow them to receive these goods. Even though necessarily Americans, we don't necessarily need the oil from Iran. So I guess the, the pushback is then, then let the other, other parts of the world handle this situation America and we can step back because at the end of the day we can be, we can survive without getting anything from Iran. But there is no real allies coming. England, Spain, France, I mean France was talking tough about Greenland, you know, of course after the fact. But when there's no support, is it just because they're just so used to America solving their problems, or is it, is it a deeper corruption than that?
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Elizabeth Pipko
I mean, I think it could be a little bit of both. I think the average European citizen, for example, yes, they are very used to America solving all of their problems. I mean, think about the uproar that happened when Donald Trump appeared at a NATO summit and said, hey, no one is paying their fair share, and I'm going to put a stop to that. People thought it was the worst thing that ever been said. Meanwhile, Americans were like, oh, is that what it feels like when someone stands up for you for the first time? I mean, really, people were freaking out. People hate Donald Trump in Europe, and we always say the more they hate him, I at least say the better it means he's doing for us because it's actually finally putting our country first. But I think when it comes to the real world, we have to be honest. We don't just have European allies who are cowering. We also have many countries around the world that work with Iran. We have to worry about a North Korea and a Russia and a China and all these nations who want United States, United States to be weakened, who want the US to fail, and who probably, maybe more secretly than others, but who we know are working with Iran, who I think had a lot of a hand inside of the October 7 attacks and the planning of that, who want to see America's demise as well. And so we can't actually just sit back, because if we just sit back, then that allyship gets so much stronger. And like you said, if we don't have Europe, we don't have the good guys ready to fight, but all the bad guys are ready to go. It doesn't put the US In a good spot either. So for us, it's again back to that snake, cutting off the head of the snake, making sure Iran and China and Russia and everybody knows that America means business for the first time in a while and we're going to put a stop to it so future generations never have to have this conversation again.
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Tyrus
You know, and from the political side of it, I think the mass immigration into, you can't even call it immigration, but the flooding, the invasion in all the European countries. And they had a very. We still see the terrorist stuff, but they started running for offices, they started running for. So now it's political. And then you get the woke aspect of it and they keep talking things like free Palestine and all these absolute ridiculous of Palestine doesn't exist. All these ridiculous things that have become political with the woke and the extreme left. And you're seeing countries refusing to do anything because they're worried about their own reelections. They're worried about their own not wanting to upset their new communities. I mean, it's, It's. I think it's a far. There. It's far more of a spider's web than a snake pit in terms of what is going on. And by us not falling in line and standing ground and standing for the rights of our allies and human beings in general, mankind in general. I think we're starting to see a lot of these countries have been compromised east by places like Iran.
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Elizabeth Pipko
Yeah. By places who truly want the end to the Western civilization that I think we're all so proud to uphold. I mean, America is a beacon of light for people around the world who wish to live under our system. Right. So for us, we can't cower. And I mean, look, you mentioned the Europeans. I am first in line to make fun of everybody in Europe. I have been called a nationalist by every friend I've had in Europe long before Donald Trump came into office, because I truly bleed red, white and blue. I'm in love with my country, and I made fun of them for not being in love with theirs. But this is what happens when you don't obsess over the country that you're from. You allow anybody in. You think every culture is welcome and every culture is equal, and you end up with a bunch of people who want to destroy your way of life and actually put you in harm's way. That's why it's never going to happen in America, because we love our country too damn much to allow it to invade. But it's happened all across Europe. They know that America is next. That's all that they want. That's why they. They have so many people flooding in here illegally to try and make that happen. And that's why we all have to hold the line, because America is too good. We are the only ones keeping Europe okay, keeping the entirety of Western civilization alive, because we love our country too much. We love our values too much. And we're not going to back down to anybody who wants to end that.
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Tyrus
And I would. And if it happens there, eventually it will be here. And I think the fact that we were able to close our borders, I think I read one report. There hasn't been one.
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Allen West
Not one
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Tyrus
gives us a chance to. To look what's going on in our country to get these cells out because they're here. And we see it, we see in our political front. And it was just, it was just a very different attack because it wasn't like what you would see in the movies. They no longer attack with, with bombs and guns. They go in our education systems and they groom there and they run for office there. And we're seeing, we see in, in New York with the socialists. It's pure and simple communism and absolutely anti Jew in every aspect of it, which is anti American. You go after one of us, you go after all of us. And I'm hoping that we will see more and more Americans take up our sides and stand up for what's right because we are a melting pot. But we also, we don't put dangerous chemicals in our melting pot. And that's what we're getting from them. So I got about 10 seconds left. Thank you so much for coming on. Always enlightening. Appreciate you. And I'm sure I'll see you soon on the Gut Feel Show.
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Elizabeth Pipko
Thank you. Thank you. Hope to see you soon.
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Tyrus
All right, thank you so much. This is Tyrus filling in for Brian the Be Rye on the Brian Kilmeade Show.
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Brian Kilmeade
Big guests, bold opinions, better information. This is the Brian Kilmeade Show. Breaking news, unique opinions, hear it all on the Brian Kilmeade Show.
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Tyrus
What it is, is Tyrus. Fill in for the Brian Kilmeade Show. And I'd just like to take a minute to reflect. It has been in a very interesting summer, to say the least. We had, we had the World Cup. Hats off to Team America. They, they did the best they could given the level of competition. And I think anytime America gets to host anything, it's a real litmus test for what the real world thinks of us. And I think one of the coolest things was seeing people coming from all over the world and just loving America. From our restaurants to our sports to our cities to our people. I think it was refreshing to see just how much. Sometimes we forget how good we've got it here. Sometimes we forget that we are, we are a Waffle House away from an awesome meal that we can walk out and go to a movie, we can go to a baseball game, we can go do whatever we want to do. We can step out our house and say we hate everything about this country and no one says anything. And if the government gets iffy, we got the second amendment to keep them in check. It is just we love live in a beautiful, beautiful place. And it's nice to see the what the world really thinks, not a bunch of stuck up politicians. So God bless America. And man, I'm glad I was born here.
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Brian Kilmeade
From high atop FOX News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sewing division, it's Brian Kilmeade.
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Tyrus
What it is, it is Tyrus filling in for Bry on the Brian Kilmeade show today. And joining me shortly, shortly, shortly, shortly will be the great Carl Rove and hopefully his, his little, his dry, is it a dry erase board, clipboard, the board, so to speak, with all this fancy technology going around around today and AI and whatnot. I love the fact that he does it old school. The only thing older than that would be like if you had like one of those little tiny chalkboards. But you know, it's still, it's still cool. And his, his vast knowledge on all things political and United States is, is, I'm excited to pick his brain today on a lot of things. And one of the things that obviously I'm going to ask him about is his relationship with the, the Lindsay Graham who is passed away at the young age of 71. And so I'm very interested to hear about what was it like if they work together, if they obviously work together. But what, what that was like and what that means at the same time to talk to him about a little bit what's going on with our foreign, with our, what's going on over the overseas with the United States. So I think, I think we've got him. Good morning, sir.
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Carl Rove
Morning, sir. How are you filling in, filling in for or maybe this is a permanent gig terrace.
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Tyrus
Hey, you know what, I have the perfect face for radio, sir. So.
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Carl Rove
Exactly. Me too. I join you there.
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Tyrus
Now listen, you have one of the most impressive resumes. So I'm just gonna, just for anyone who's been living under a rock who doesn't know who you are, sir, just former deputy of chief of staff and senior advisor to President, President George W. Bush and FOX News contributor. Obviously, we're all kind of shocked and saddened by the passing of Lindsey Graham. And I just wanted to play for you, Senator John Thune, who's talking about remembering Lindsey. And then just get your thoughts and some experiences that you had with him.
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Carl Rove
I will miss Lindsey's friendship, Mr. President, more than I can say. We pray for his staff and for his family whom he loved dearly and who loved him dearly in return. But I am comforted by the knowledge that in the end he has just changed his address. And that one day, Mr. President,
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Jenny Raycott
We
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Carl Rove
will laugh Together again. President healed the floor.
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Tyrus
Heartwarming to say the least. And what a powerful statement. The only thing he changed was his address. And I think a lot of people would say that about you too, sir, that you.
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Carl Rove
Well, Lindsey Graham was easy to love and hard to dislike. He was a smart, funny, caring patriot who served his country in the military and then in the United States Congress and the United States Senate and devoted his life to making our country better. And, you know, he was a legislator's legislator. That's why both Democrats and Republicans liked him, because he didn't take it personally. And he was constantly trying to move the ball forward and would, you know, throw himself into convincing you that it was the right thing to do and listen to you and change if he thought you had a better idea. I mean, I remember Lindsey was constantly, during our years in the White House, you know, pushing for things, sometimes in concert with us, sometimes without, but always with conviction and honesty and candor and a delightful sense of humor. He was very, very funny, and he could remove the tension in a room with a witticism that he probably picked up growing up in a pool hall and a barn, a bar. But he would be missed. I mean, he led the American life, Dyrus. I mean, he came from nothing and served in august body that is embodied in our Constitution and critical to the democracy that we live in the United States Senate.
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Tyrus
One of my concerns is that that mold has been broken. Gentlemen like yourself, Mr. Graham, who put country over party patriotism was more important than partisanship and unfortunately to the detriment of the country's overall well being. I'm hoping in some way that this will inspire some of the people who serve to take a hard look in the mirror about what's really important in this country.
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Carl Rove
Yeah, yeah. Look, there are lots of reasons why, you know, social media, the nature of the times and personalities, but you're right. We've gotten to a point where people, you know, I'm going to get up in the morning and I'm going to figure out how I can get more retweets and drive up the number of people that are following me on social media. And I'm going to do it by saying things and doing things that are designed to elevate me, but in the process, demean the process and demean other people. And so Lindsey, you know, Lindsey was successful over these many years that he served in the Senate by not taking it personally and by not making it personal. There were moments when he spoke out with deep candor. I remember his comments in the debate over Brett Kavanaugh's nomination of the Supreme Court. But it was powerful because it was so unusual for him to be that angry about something that Congress was doing. And it was because it was not in keeping with what he felt was the necessary responsibility of leaders to speak candidly and not to engage in, you know, mindless slaughter of each other for partisan political reasons. So. But, yeah, I think you're right. This is a moment for us to reflect on him and why he was successful and to use him as a model because he was beloved by Democrats and Republicans. You know, Senator Klobuchar of Minnesota, I mean, she was clearly emotional in her comments about him. And you saw. Look, we're talking about, you know, the Republican leader in the Senate, and he's clearly overcome by emotion describing the death of his friend, the sudden death of his friend. So, yeah, let's all learn from this. Let's all learn from the example of the three amigos, McCain, Lindsey Graham, and Joe Lieberman, Men from different parts of the country, men with different backgrounds, two of one party, one of another, who nonetheless were willing to talk and work and. And strive with each other to make our country better. And there are lots of people in the Senate like that. We just need to. And the House, we just need to recognize them and applaud them. I mean, I'm thinking of Todd Young and Mark Warner, who both shared a common concern. We got to do something about what happens if Taiwan is taken by the Chinese and we lose the source of 90% of the chips that drive our modern economy. And we had the chips bill. You know, we had the infrastructure bill, which was Democrats and Republicans on the Senate Transportation Committee saying, can we find a way to reauthorize a highway trust fund like we do every five years? And while we're. And because it was so easy, you know, relatively easy, to arrive at that agreement, can we agree upon things that we think are necessary? The infrastructure projects that could be done without politics and in a reasonable fashion and move our country together? So. So those moments happen. We've got a group of House members, Republicans and Democrats, who are combat veterans. I hosted one of them for a fundraiser in my home, and he talked about it. He said, we're Democrat and Republican veterans. Obviously, he was a Republican, but it was a fundraiser in my home.
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Tyrus
Yeah, I gathered that.
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Carl Rove
Yeah. He said, we've agreed to do two things. Have lunch or dinner with each other on a regular basis to get to know each other as human beings.
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Kat Timpf
And.
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Carl Rove
And second of all, to find one thing that we will do with somebody on the other side every year. And he proceeded to. This is August Pfluger of Midland, Texas, and he's talking about what he and Seth Moulton, a Democrat from the suburbs of Boston, were doing on a particular issue affecting veterans healthcare. Now, look, Midland, Texas and Boston are sort of like, you know, Venus and Mars or, you know, Venus and Uranus. I mean, they're very different. But here are two guys who are striving to find a way, is there something that we can agree upon and something we can do together? And I think that's a healthy impulse that is being borne out. And largely because of exactly what you put your finger on, people are fed up with needless partisanship and needless polarization. Sure, we're not going to agree on everything, but when we disagree, we can do so respectfully. And we can also look for ways where we can come together.
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Tyrus
You know, and one of the things, and I'm just. I'm just curious, during. During your time, there was more positive relationships across the aisle, correct? It was not uncommon for, after a tremendous debate, to then go have a beer. Very close election.
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Carl Rove
Yeah. Yeah.
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Allen West
Well, look.
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Carl Rove
And we had an adult in charge, right? The first person that George W. Bush called when the Supreme Court upheld his election was George Miller, Democrat from California. Why? Because Miller had said in standing up to the teacher unions, we need to grade how. We need to know how every child is doing by the fourth grade. And that requires us to test every child and report publicly the outcome of those tests so that we identify what schools and classes are succeeding and which are not. The second call was to Ted Kennedy, who made the same. Had made the same statement standing up to the teachers unions on behalf of school children. And the new president elect's request was, would you be willing to sit down with me and John Boehner, Republican in the House, and Judd, Greg, Republicans in the Senate, to talk about education reform. Kennedy, in July of 2003, went out and said, Bush lied about WMD. Now, he knew that that was a lie. Kennedy, Kennedy had read the same intelligence, had come to the same conclusion, but gave a speech in Washington saying earlier that Sodom had wmd, but we needed to use diplomacy, not force, to rid that threat. He wanted to beat bush, though, in 2004. And so he went out and started the drumbeat. Now all the Democrats picked it up. After the 2004 election, Bush called him and said, can you. McCain and I talk about immigration reform? And they worked for the next three years because Bush didn't take it personally. He knew that politics is a necessary element of our culture, of our democracy. But a president has a responsibility to be the leader of all the people. Yes, he's the leader of his party, but he's also the President of the United States of America, and we the people are in charge. So he was willing to put that aside. That's what we need. We need leaders who are willing to say, okay, it's Tip o' Neill and Ronald Reagan, and we, we can go at it, but we can also sit down and cut a deal that will save Social Security for the next 40 years and have a drink and tell each other Irish jokes. But we can be political enemies, but we can also be political allies.
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Tyrus
And I think that's the thing is you can't differentiate now between someone having a discussion over policy or a personal attack. I think that's just. Unfortunately, we kind of. As an American, I kind of have to point the finger back at ourselves because we're electing people based on feelings or auditions opposed to merit. And it's on both sides of the aisle. But I think more so we're seeing a lot of people that were elected based on feelings and fluff and even worse, and I'm saying this as a black man of the, the chromosome and the color of their skin, which has nothing to do with your intellect or your experience or integrity or accountability. Those are the traits that you should want when you elect an official. And we're seeing that when they get into office, you don't see laws passed. All you see is obstruction. And I don't know, do you think it's just gonna take an awakening? Although I would think after the Biden administration, which with the borders and what we're seeing now with violence and, you know, and some of these absurd idealisms of, you know, boys playing in women's sports and what's a woman? And, you know, all these things that, that came about. And I think that all that has to do with just basic human decency and accountability and common sense. Do you think that we will shift away from that or. I think it's kind of started at least on one side. But you would think the Democratic Party would also start to stand up for it. I think common sense is a non partisan thing. I think we all should stare at it at the same time. Integrity and accountability should mean something again.
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Carl Rove
Yeah, well, two things. One is, I think you're absolutely right. I think it has started. And why has it started? Because in America it is we the people and, and we, and when we the people are unhappy with the state of American politics, we demand change. And you know, I talk around the country. In fact I'm in North Carolina today to speak. But wherever I go, I say, I ask for a show of hands. How many of you are happy with the state of American politics today? Very rarely does anybody raise their hand. And ultimately we the people have our way because it's we who decide at the ballot box who we want. In other words words political leaders are going to wake up and realize that the American people want people not who say we hate our end, we hate our political rivals, we hate the people in the other party. But instead say I have a positive and optimistic vision for the future of my party, whether I'm a Democrat or Republican. I have an optimistic view of what our country can do and I'm going to campaign on that. And when we start rewarding people who are more interested in, in telling us what it is they want to do rather than who we should hate, that party is going to start winning elections that it might otherwise be losing because the American people ultimately are in charge. The other thing that I'd say is this. We're in a bad place, yes, but we have been in bad places before. We were there in the 60s and 70s, we were there in the 1930s. You think the politics today is ugly, Go back to the Gilded Age, an era that I've seen. I mean they hated each other because they were still fighting the Civil War. There's a brilliant book on the era of the 1830s, 40s and 50s called Field of Blood that talks about how members of Congress routinely arrived on the floor of the House and Senate armed to the teeth and were engaged in big battles over issues, not just simply the enslavement of 4 million of our fellow Americans, but in 1838 a Whig from Kentucky kills a Democrat from Maine. Two congressmen have a duel and one of them kills the other one. And what is the issue at hand? That they disagreed on banking regulations. So you know, we've been through these periods before. We ought to have the optimism that the American system is self correcting because again, it is we the people who are in charge.
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Tyrus
Well, you know what, I couldn't say better myself and I do believe this is the one nation that can self correct. And I, and sir, thank you you so much for your time today. It's always nice whenever I get to talk to you because again, it's just being under the learning tree. And I appreciate your Time. Good luck on your speaking tours and hopefully we'll be able to do this again soon.
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Carl Rove
I'd love to. Thank you, Tyrus, all the best.
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Tyrus
Yes, sir. You too.
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Brian Kilmeade
The headlines, the stories behind them and the people who make them. Only on the Brian Kill Me show, The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmeade.
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Carl Rove
There's more of a. Less of a bison issue as it is. More of a lot of people, not as much space as we used to have. So now we have people and wildlife, you know, crammed together like never before. And this thing's kind of you're going to happen out in the wild. The wild's unprecedented, predictable. And once in a while you just get unlucky. But this time of year, as you mentioned, is the bison rut or the mating season. And those bull bison are hopped up on testosterone. They're £2,000. They're angry.
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Tyrus
Yeah. It also sounds like some of my friends and maybe me on occasion back in the day. But, you know, I, I, like I said, we talked about it last night on the Gutfeld show and we had some fun with it, but the awesome power of mother nature, the awesome power of bison, and they are unbelievable animals who are of their group of the
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Brian Kilmeade
large
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Tyrus
mammals that were pretty much wiped out by the introduction of man into the United States. We lost a lot of big ones and they were so tough, they were able to withstand it. And the, the great fur trade and hunting and we're lucky to have them, so respect them. And if they say 24ft, make it, make it 50. But during the rut, the only thing on his mind is loving. And if you're in the way, you're going to get freight trained.
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Brian Kilmeade
The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmeade.
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Tyrus
What it is is Tyrus filling in for the great Beg on the Brian Kilmeade Show. And joining me is my partner in crime on the Gutfeld show for I think we're past the decade long time from a bodyguard and a, A Boston market attendant.
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Reagan Charleston
I don't know.
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Tyrus
Or barista. No, it's not barista. That's coffee. But anyways, we had a lot of jobs, humble beginnings, and now we are the number one late night comedy show in the universe. Joining me now, the one and only Kat Timf.
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Kat Timpf
What up? Thank you for having me on.
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Tyrus
Thanks for coming on. First of all, I'm still laughing from the show last night.
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Kat Timpf
Yeah.
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Tyrus
To say you were on fire was an understatement.
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Kat Timpf
And you know, I was feeling really silly. I was feeling really silly yesterday. It was a great time.
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Tyrus
And I had not seen that behavior since you were pregnant cat. Because pregnant cat.
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Kat Timpf
That got me nervous when you said that. I'm not gonna lie to you, because
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Tyrus
pregnant cat was a whole. It's another personality.
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Kat Timpf
Yes, yes. The end of my pregnancy last time, I was just like, did it. I was completely. Just no filter, out of control. And then when you said that to me yesterday, I'm not gonna lie, you made me a little nervous.
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Tyrus
Well, unfortunately, I also forget that everything we say on the gut feel will end up on social media. So there was a few. It was like I was being accused of having a Dana Perino moment.
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Kat Timpf
Oh, yeah. Because you announced the pregnancy that. Yeah. No, to be clear. To be clear.
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Tyrus
Yes. I thought that's why I had you on today.
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Kat Timpf
Like, I am not pregnant. That I'm aware of.
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Tyrus
So not spoiler alert. Okay. I would.
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Kat Timpf
No, no, no, no, no, no. But by the way, also. Yeah, like, people know the show is taped, right?
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Tyrus
Yes.
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Kat Timpf
Like, if that was the case, we would have cut that out.
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Tyrus
Yeah, exactly. No, no, leave it in. Leave it in. Let's. And you live in New York. You're from Detroit, but you live in New York. And before we get into fun stuff, because I want to talk about your tour. I know your family life is extremely private, so just a couple. Couple questions about mother without getting into too much stuff. I'm the same way. But, you know, you're a New Yorker now, and. And you're a libertarian, which is an endangered species these days, especially. And Mehrman, Dami, they always going after. They want to tax the rich. They want to tax the rich. And I think it's Sega. 11, I want you to hear this and just kind of get your thoughts on it real quick. Eleven, you know, the first time that I met Councilwoman Carmen de la Rosa is when we were both serving in the New York State Assembly. And that was the year when we were advocating to increase taxes on the wealthiest New Yorkers by raising income taxes on those who made more than a million dollars across our city and state. And we were told then that if we were to do that, that we would have fewer millionaires in the years to come. And what we found is, after passing that and raising billions of dollars, that helped our state to finally meet the terms of the Campaign for Fiscal Equity, that we, in fact, had more millionaires than we had prior. I don't know if that makes sense.
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Kat Timpf
I just can't stand the idea, first of all, he comes from a family that does pretty well, right?
- [96:17]
Tyrus
No, very well.
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Kat Timpf
Certainly. Certainly better than mine.
- [96:20]
Tyrus
Yes. And mine combined yours.
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Kat Timpf
And he just wants to demonize people who also want to do well for themselves. When I moved to New York, I had nothing. I lived in East Harlem in a dangerous neighborhood, in a horrible apartment. There was a triple murder outside my. We didn't have hot water A lot of the time when I was preparing to come do my, you know, guest appearances on Red Eye, which was Greg's show at the time. And I worked really hard, and also, there's, you know, talent involved, but there's also luck involved, and there's. There's hustle involved and there's all these things involved and putting yourself out there and failing and failing. And this business is obviously brutal, and for every success you get, there's 50,000 failures that you have along the way. And. And it's like, okay, now I'm doing well for myself. And it's like, now we want to just take all of that, and it'd be fine for me to, you know, I'm. It's not that I don't want to help people who need it and wouldn't want to give money to people who are less fortunate to help them, but unfortunately, anybody who's paying attention knows that that's not where this money goes.
- [97:18]
Tyrus
No, these.
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Kat Timpf
Yeah, these budgets are bloated. These budgets are. There's people. I went for a walk today, and it's like, there's a. There's a guy walking around screaming, and he's, like, bleeding, and it's. You know, nobody's helping him. And it's like, you know, eventually, you know, someone did, but it's like, this is. How did that. That happen to this person? How are we spending all this money? And that's still a thing you can expect to see walking around the street on a Tuesday morning.
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Tyrus
Yeah. I mean, because there's been billions of dollars put into the homeless battle, and it seems like it's just increasing. Was the money used for recruitment? Because it's like, you're not seeing any results.
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Kat Timpf
Right? Exactly. And it's like, we're like, every block has feces on it. Like, there's not a block that doesn'. How are we paying this much and basic upkeep or helping, you know, people? There's a camp of people, you know, under a bridge. They're all living. They're all struck.
- [98:15]
Brian Kilmeade
It's.
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Kat Timpf
Where is this money going? Because you're saying, oh, you have to pay your taxes or else you're just a greedy bad person, doesn't want to help people. And it's really the opposite. If you really want to help people, you realize that the government has not been effective. And you don't need to be some sort of economic nerd to understand that. You just need to go outside and take a look around any of these cities where the taxi are the highest. Look around. Does the government seem to be doing a good job?
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Tyrus
Yeah. And like I said, we talk about, like I said, our goal is to, to send you to bed with a smile on your face. Not necessarily have you have sitting up going, where is my tax dollars going? But I think that's one thing is like the amount of corruption and fraud we're seeing in the big cities with these should be the beacons of light given the concentration. Like a place like New York York, where it's so full of people working and chasing the American dream that our streets shouldn't look the way they look.
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Kat Timpf
No.
- [99:12]
Tyrus
And it's absolute complete neglect and fraud. I mean that's just where we're seeing fraud everywhere. And that's not a Democrat, Republican thing. It's a political thing. Although we're seeing, I think some of the more egregious stuff right now on the extreme left on the socialist side, which kind of makes sense. But I want to segue a little bit because one of the things that you do well, and I've been your tag team partner for a long time on it is is the art of making people laugh. And you. I have my comedy tour, the Tyrus Live tour, which is getting ready to kick off in August. You also tour and can you just give us like what's going on with your tour? When's the next date? And you're like, me, we don't talk politics. Our life has been too wild. So you're not going to get a night of jokes about being fiscally responsible.
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Kat Timpf
No, you're not. I have no political jokes. Actually, all of my jokes are about life. They're about my experience being a mom, you know, being a wife, cancer, all the things I've been through, you know, marriage, family, all that kind of stuff. And my here this weekend. But I'm going to New Mexico next weekend. A couple of the shows are sold out, but we added more. There's some tickets available to the later shows, but I'm just, you know, going all over the country. I'm going to Hawaii after that. We just added a second show, but you know, that's that's going to be amazing. Hawaii.
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Tyrus
Yeah, Hawaii's cool. I've been there several. Hawaii is cool.
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Kat Timpf
Vegas. Vegas sold out. But we added like a Henderson Valley. I think it's right outside Vegas. So it's just. It's really great because it's as you and I know you go. If you ever make the mistake of going online is people are so mean and they say the most messed up stuff. And it's like, you know, I generally don't look, but then I'll sit on why will. And then it's like a bunch of people being nice and then one person, like, saying the worst thing that you've ever seen. Or, you know, millions of people watch the show and it's maybe like a couple hundred people that are like really awful, but they're every day, but it's
- [101:21]
Tyrus
like more like 15.
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Kat Timpf
Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Right.
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Tyrus
And I think it's because they. They are so. They attack you for attention. Because I'll be honest with you, I don't think anyone. I know for a fact Greg and I do not get attacked like, you do not even.
- [101:37]
Kat Timpf
No, no, no, no, no.
- [101:38]
Tyrus
And I think that's a lot of it is these. These middle aged, nasty men or these really old angry women. But.
- [101:45]
Jenny Raycott
Yeah.
- [101:46]
Tyrus
And it's just. Some of it is disgusting.
- [101:49]
Carl Rove
Yeah.
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Kat Timpf
Some of it's really bad.
- [101:51]
Tyrus
Yeah. And I block them. And just because I'm included in it, you know, I just. I see it.
- [101:55]
Brian Kilmeade
Block it.
- [101:55]
Tyrus
Yeah, yeah.
- [101:56]
Kat Timpf
Because you say, like, what? Like, I hope that when I'm an older person, I'm not spending my time, like, on the Internet trying to tear down a mother half my age.
- [102:08]
Tyrus
Yeah. Like, where does that come from? Like, you know what? Hey, hon, we got. No, no, no. I need a few minutes. This cat Timp's got to be stopped.
- [102:14]
Kat Timpf
Right? Which is like, I watch tv, too. And it's like, you know, I watch reality TV and there's people on it who, you know, make mistakes or they cheat or they do this and they do that. And me and my husband will talk, like on the couch and be like, oh, she's a snake. Right?
- [102:26]
Tyrus
Yeah.
- [102:26]
Kat Timpf
But I never take that extra step to be like, better let her know,
- [102:29]
Tyrus
bring me the phone.
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Kat Timpf
Yeah. And then better also tell her she's ugly and this and that. But then when you go and do shows in per. In person and you meet people in person, that's where you get hope in the world. So I always say, if you want. Sorry, someone's making a smoothie.
- [102:45]
Tyrus
Oh, Cam. Cam's making smoothies.
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Kat Timpf
But I always say if you want to feel bad about the world, you want to. You go online. If you want to feel good about the world, you go out into the and you meet people. And that's why I do meet and greets at all my shows. You meet people, you talk to them. And that's a main reason why I tour is I like meeting all the people who watch the show. I like talking to them. And I do a mix of big theaters, but I also love doing these smaller, like, smaller venues too, where I just do a bunch of shows. So it ends up being the same number of people because I like to, you know, first of all, I can, like, try out some new material. But second of all, it's just like, so intimate. I just feel like. It feels like a big hang with everybody.
- [103:22]
Tyrus
Well, I love doing because my thing is I like going to hunt haunted theaters with, like, lots of history and stuff.
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Carl Rove
Oh, that's cool.
- [103:28]
Tyrus
You know, and so I do the same thing. And I always do meet and greets too. Also. I get a lot of material on meet and greets because you meet some very interesting people. Wild stories. And our shows kind of cry. We have fans who go to both shows and then they will come up to let me know I was at Kat show. Please tell her. And they usually wear your half a veteran shirt. I think that's the shirt that I typically see. And it's like, it's funny because. Or when people haven't been to one of your shows yet come to my shows, they always. The first question they ask is, how's cat? What's Cat like? You know, so it's like. But I love the fact that the traveling, you also get a good pulse for America. It's one thing to go on TV every night and. And give your your two cents. And it's all based off stories you read. Read. I don't think unless you've actually been to small towns in Ohio, small towns in Kansas, small towns in Nebraska and, you know, then California and. And been around the states. I think you can then give an accurate depiction of what's really going on, because social media is not it.
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Kat Timpf
No, exactly. Absolutely. And that's. That's another reason why I do it is because you do. I've been all over the country at this point, which is why I was also. I went to the Middle East. East. And I can't say which country, but I went to the Middle east to do stand up on the fourth of July. And, you know, I spent the whole day talking with, you know, the troops, and it's, you know, it's like so many of us, we talk about the troops, and it's like. But how much time are we spending with the troops? The, you know, men and women who are human beings who are out there who have agreed to make this sacrifice, who are people, who are. Who are sons, who are brothers, who are friends, who are fathers. And I think that the more you can do to get out there and meet people and see things for yourself, the better off we are. Because the Internet, it's. It's. You'll. You'll. You'll want to. You'll want to kill yourself. You spend too much time online.
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Tyrus
No. And the worst thing is. And not just the negative stuff, if you start believing all the positive stuff, you then will get complacent.
- [105:40]
Kat Timpf
Yes, exactly. Exactly.
- [105:41]
Tyrus
And think you make it. Because I. In traveling around and seeing different things, you. I always get. Get a much better grasp of what people. Because people talk. And the one thing that's our type of celebrity is a little different than someone who they see in the movies. Right. And when I say that is they see us every night.
- [106:03]
Kat Timpf
Yeah.
- [106:03]
Tyrus
And we're a part of their household. So when they see us, they know us. Because what you see is what you get. It's not like when you and I walk off the set, it's like, oh, well, that was terrible. And I have an English accent all of a sudden. You know what I'm saying?
- [106:16]
Kat Timpf
It's like, exactly.
- [106:17]
Tyrus
You see exactly who. You wear it on your sleeve. So when they see you, they want to talk. They. It's like a relative that they haven't seen in years in a lot of. A lot of cases. And I think that's a beautiful thing about our show is that I think 1. No one saw it coming. And the fact that we've been able to maintain it and not lose our minds and not get caught up, because entertainment is brutal, you know, it is absolutely brutal. Brutal.
- [106:43]
Kat Timpf
If you don't actually make an effort to go out there and be a person, then it will destroy your soul.
- [106:52]
Tyrus
It will.
- [106:53]
Carl Rove
This business.
- [106:54]
Tyrus
We've seen them. We've walked by him in the hallway. It's like walking. Hello.
- [106:59]
Kat Timpf
You have to decide. You have to make a decision and say, my soul and my humanity is important to me, and I'm going to prioritize it. Otherwise, you will lose it in this
- [107:09]
Tyrus
business, and you got to get away from it, you know?
- [107:11]
Kat Timpf
Yeah.
- [107:11]
Tyrus
Spend time with your kids. Now, of course, you Know, Mike and you. I think if anyone asked you to describe me, like, I think they'd be surprised at what your answer would be.
- [107:23]
Kat Timpf
Yeah, you're a father first, right? I mean, you're a great dad, and your kids are your number one priority, even for you, at times can be logistically difficult. You don't let. You don't let that be an excuse, whereas a lot of guys would. So I always give you props for that.
- [107:37]
Tyrus
And you are, first of all, you and Cam, best friends. Mary.
- [107:43]
Kat Timpf
Yes.
- [107:44]
Tyrus
You did it right. And now you have a. An amazing bun, a bundle of joy in the world. Just in the. In the minute I got you left. What is probably the biggest change for you as a mother?
- [107:59]
Kat Timpf
Yeah, it's just that you're a mom all the time. You know, it's like, I obviously work, so I'm not a full time mom, but just because. But I still am. You know what I'm saying? Even when I'm not there, I'm still thinking about him. I'm still. I'm still responsible for him. Regardless of whether you're working or not working. And shout out to all the moms who stay home, it's the hardest job in the world. So that those are definitely the true heroes. But I would also say it is. It is your priority. It is your responsibility. It is the number one thing that you're thinking about and the number one responsibility that you have regardless of what you're doing. There are no breaks, even when you have a break.
- [108:36]
Tyrus
And that, you know what. And you know a lot about number one, because we're the number one late night comedy show. And. Hey, Cat, I know you're busy. You got a million things going on. Thanks so much for coming on today. Great talking with you, always fun, and I'll see you later on.
- [108:49]
Kat Timpf
Yeah, see you later.
- [108:50]
Tyrus
All right. This is Tyrus filling in for Bry on the Brian Kill Me Show.
- [108:55]
Brian Kilmeade
Increasing your intelligence quotient.
- [108:58]
Carl Rove
What the hell did you just say?
- [109:00]
Brian Kilmeade
Brian Kilmeade. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Kilmeade.
- [109:13]
Tyrus
I just paid Shakur Stevenson a load of money, and for some reason, we can't figure this celebrity out. They put him up as a OKC NBA player. Are you kidding me?
- [109:25]
Allen West
I'm.
- [109:25]
Elizabeth Pipko
I mean, it's just.
- [109:25]
Tyrus
It's absolutely crazy. But when we put celebrities up, we are the worst. I just had this debate in the back with my guys while I was screaming at everybody back there, and they said, no, soccer's worse. Soccer shows, the people. And they don't. They don't put up any graphics. Oh, no, we put up graphics and put the wrong guy's name on it because I want sharks with freaking laser beams on their head. Honestly, honestly. Throw me a bone here, people. This was brilliant. Brilliant. Dana White is brilliant. This is the most awesome thing. You just had a lackluster main event. People are mad and upset. The Shakur, Steven, who is, I think, pound for pound, top two in the world. What a steal. Congratulations to them. But all the stuff that could have been the media could have been framed about, they're talking about what Dana White going off. He protected his staff, his thing. He made it. No one can get madder than he him. Brilliant, sir. Well played. Well played. But seriously, throw him a freaking bone here, people.