Will Iran Cheat Again? The Dangerous Reality of a 60-Day Ceasefire

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Brian Kilmeade Show

Episode: Will Iran Cheat Again? The Dangerous Reality of a 60-Day Ceasefire
Date: May 28, 2026
Host: Brian Kilmeade
Notable Guests: General Jack Keane, Daniel Hoffman, Rebecca Heinrichs, Tomi Lahren, Sid Rosenberg, Chad Bronstein, Spencer Pratt

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Overview

This episode focuses on the escalating situation with Iran and the proposed 60-day ceasefire deal, with major skepticism about whether Iran can be trusted to honor its commitments. The show weaves together breaking geopolitical developments in the Middle East, military innovations emerging from Ukraine's war with Russia, and sharp commentary on U.S. domestic politics—including Joe Biden's leadership and the unpredictable California and Los Angeles elections.

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Key Segments & Discussions

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1. The State of U.S.-Iran Negotiations

[02:09], [17:24], [37:56], [40:01], [56:41], [60:36]

• 60-Day Ceasefire Highlights:
  The agreement proposes opening the Strait of Hormuz, removing mines, easing the U.S. blockade, allowing Iran to freely sell oil, and Iran pledging not to pursue nuclear weapons. In exchange, the U.S. and allies would consider sanction relief and humanitarian aid.

• Host and Guest Skepticism:
  Kilmeade and guests repeatedly cast doubt on Iran’s trustworthiness.

  “I’m still not convinced Iran can live up to any deal.” – Brian Kilmeade [02:23] “We know they’re going to cheat.” – Gen. Jack Keane [60:36] “If we eliminate the blockade, that reduces a lot of leverage for us. … So there's a lot of concerns going into these, going into this alleged agreement.” – Daniel Hoffman [40:01] “I remain skeptical… we’ve got Iranians operating in bad faith.” – Rebecca Heinrichs [56:41]

• Strategic Concerns:

  • Iran openly demands the return of frozen assets and maintains its right to uranium enrichment.
  • U.S. leverage comes from sanctions, military force, and the blockade—all of which are being negotiated away.

• Proxy Warfare:

  • Ongoing attacks from Iran-backed groups (Hezbollah, Houthis, etc.) into Israel and the Gulf, violating ceasefires.
  • Guests warn Iran always exploits negotiations to delay, rearm, and expand its influence.

Memorable Quote:

“We have not achieved our strategic objective of bringing Iran to their knees and inducing them to negotiate… If Iran has given sanctions relief, we know where that money’s going. It’s not to build girls’ schools.” – Daniel Hoffman [42:38]

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2. Military Innovation and the Ukraine War

[00:14], [18:53], [20:21], [24:33], [27:38], [51:08], [62:30]

• Ukraine’s Advances:

  • Guests highlight how Ukraine has become a laboratory for new warfare, particularly with drones and tech adaptation.
  • Ukraine’s battlefield innovation is described as reshaping military doctrine globally.
  • Daniel Bilak details real-time adaptation and partnerships with Western tech and funding.

  "Ukraine is evolving as a laboratory of military adaptation... making technological advances inside of weeks, not even months." – Daniel Bilak [21:51] “A $500 drone can take out a $5 million tank.” – Bilak [26:31]

  • Emphasis on Ukraine’s need for continued U.S. Patriot missile support.

• Broader Implications:

  • Ukrainian tactics are now being studied and adopted by Gulf states, NATO, and beyond. AI decision-making in drone warfare is rapidly changing the nature of the battlefield.
  • Ukraine is now considered to have the strongest army in Europe.

  “I would take [the Ukrainian army] pound for pound over the Russians any single day.” – Brian Kilmeade [19:31] “They are the leaders… with this century's revolution in military affairs.” – Daniel Hoffman [51:08]

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3. Political Commentary: Biden’s Fitness, Democratic Strategy, and Media Trust

[01:06], [08:44], [10:54], [53:23], [70:04], [71:17], [73:13], [88:21]

• Biden’s Health and Media Doubts:

  • Panelists discuss the fallout from the revelations about President Biden’s cognitive decline.
  • There’s criticism of Jill Biden and other Democrats for “covering up” his health and shielding him from scrutiny.

  "I've never seen him on, never. I don't know what happened. I thought, oh my God, he's having a stroke." – Charlie Hurt [01:06] “His doctor should be really called on the carpet. … He was basically covering up.” – Brian Kilmeade [54:09] “That's the conversation… that Joe Biden was not going to be a credible candidate for president because of his age and declining health.” – Rebecca Heinrichs [53:45]

  • There’s a historical parallel drawn to Woodrow Wilson and concerns this era will be debated for years.

• Democratic Party Dilemmas:

  • The party’s struggle to maintain unity and truthfulness regarding both domestic and foreign policy.

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4. California and LA Elections: The Rise of Outsiders

[01:30], [38:18], [75:23], [77:15], [80:47]

• Spencer Pratt’s Mayoral Run:
  • Celebrity and outsider candidates (e.g., Spencer Pratt) are discussed as viable options, with polls possibly underestimating their support.

  “I’m a registered Republican, but my supporters are all Democrats because Los Angeles is all Democrats… All the people that put [Karen Bass] in office are now behind me.” – Spencer Pratt [15:12]

  • Hostility from the media and Hollywood elites is viewed as a sign of establishment fear.

  “Just like in 2016 where you had the shy Trump voter, I think you have shy Spencer Pratt voters…” – Jake Tapper [15:47] “The animal lovers are going to show out for Spencer Pratt. It could make a big difference.” – Tomi Lahren [80:47]

  • Jimmy Kimmel and others are called out for attacking Pratt's lack of experience, but supporters counter that authenticity and practicality are what LA needs.

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5. Sports, Culture & The American Mood

[30:13], [31:38], [33:51], [94:31], [95:51], [100:07]

• Sports as Cultural Battleground:
  • Discussion of Real American Freestyle wrestling’s growth and partnership with Fox. Segment with Chad Bronstein highlights grassroots expansion and exposure for youth sports.
  • Commentary on professional athletes (e.g., Giants’ Jackson Dart, Lawrence Taylor) getting involved in politics and the blowback faced for supporting Trump.

  “If you look at his post, he likes Trump. … When Jackson gets harassed, he’s also loved more.” – Brian Kilmeade [95:51] "I grew up a Democrat… until I met this man right here [Trump]… He will not have to worry about nobody in my family ever voting for a Democrat again." – Lawrence Taylor [100:07]

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6. NYC, Israel, and Antisemitism

[104:47], [105:23]

• Mayor’s Israeli Parade Snub:
  • Criticism of NYC Mayor for being the first not to attend the Israeli Day Parade, interpreted as a sign of antisemitism.

  “He’s a disgrace. … It’s a New York City event. You’re the mayor of New York City.” – Sid Rosenberg [105:23]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Iran:

  “We have not achieved our strategic objective of bringing Iran to their knees and inducing them to negotiate…” – Daniel Hoffman [42:38]
  “We know they’re going to cheat… Israelis are in a defensive crouch because they’re abiding by the deal…” – Gen. Jack Keane [60:36]

• On Ukraine:

  “A $500 drone can take out a $5 million tank.” – Daniel Bilak [26:31]

• On U.S. Politics:

  “That’s the conversation… that Joe Biden was not going to be a credible candidate for president because of his age and declining health.” – Rebecca Heinrichs [53:45]

• On Outsider Candidates:

  “They just are sick and tired of the nonsense in LA and they want things to work.” – Jake Tapper [15:47] “The animal lovers are going to show out for Spencer Pratt… it could make a big difference.” – Tomi Lahren [80:47]

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• Iran Ceasefire Discussion: [02:09], [17:24], [37:56], [40:01], [56:41], [60:36]
• Ukraine Military Innovation: [18:53], [20:21], [24:33], [27:38], [51:08]
• Biden’s Health & Party Scandals: [01:06], [08:44], [53:23], [70:04], [71:17], [73:13], [88:21]
• Spencer Pratt/CA Politics: [01:30], [15:12], [75:23], [77:15], [80:47]
• Sports & Trump: [95:51], [100:07]
• NYC/Israel Parade: [104:47], [105:23]

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Tone & Style

• The show blends urgent, skeptical analysis with sharp, sometimes irreverent commentary.
• Guests vary from policy experts and former military/CIA to media personalities and sports/cultural figures.
• The language is direct, opinionated, and mixes advocacy for strong U.S. action with pointed media/political critique.

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Conclusion

This episode delivers a dynamic, fast-paced analysis of current international crises (primarily Iran and Ukraine), the validity of U.S. and allied responses, and what’s at stake for American national security. The hosts and guests remain highly critical of both foreign adversaries and domestic political maneuvering, urging listeners to question official narratives and hold leadership accountable—whether addressing nuclear negotiations, warfare innovation, or political transparency. It also recognizes the power of outsider candidates in shaking up established politics and highlights the intersection of culture, sports, and national mood.

Transcript

[Brian Kilmeade]

From high atop FOX News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian.

So glad you're there. It's the Brian Kilmeade show closing out a busy, busy week. And I'll tell you, there's so many different things in the air. A lot of things in the balance. Coming up on this Friday, the market's pretty happy. Oil barrel oil under $90, first time in a long time. Why they think peace is upon us perhaps I'm not buying it. Sadly, Daniel B. Is going to be on with us from Ukraine. What's happened in Ukraine is flat out changing warfare. And I am not overstating this. The Russians are on their heels. They're getting hit in their capital. And you know how they responded this morning. They actually hit Romania because they know they basically can't take Ukraine. It's an interesting response. A little bit later, Chad Bronstein's got to be here, co founder and CEO of Real American Freestyle. We one of the fastest growing sports in the country about to announce a new deal with FOX Nation. So before we get to Charlie Hurt set for, you know him from Fox and Friends weekend, let's get to the big three.

[Charlie Hurt]

Number three, because I had never seen Joe like that before or since. I've never seen him on never. I don't know what happened. I mean when I, as I watched it I thought, oh my God, he's having a stroke.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Right.

[Charlie Hurt]

It scared me to death.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And it gets worse from there. Biden's back and there's not a Democrat who is happy about it except Jill and her book tour.

[Spencer Pratt]

Number two, what I've learned is I actually don't want celebrities to come out and endorse me. I don't want anybody to endorse me except for the moms and the animal lovers in la. That's my entire vote.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah.

[Spencer Pratt]

Is that.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yes. And that is Spencer Pratt who really wowed people here at FOX News and hopefully in Los Angeles. The backstretch for California, will it give an upset minded Republicans, will they give the upset minded Republicans a chance? Steve Hilton, Spencer Pratt have to bring back that state and the only way to do it is to get rid of those Democrats who have destroyed it.

[General Jack Keane]

Number one, the thing that that got our attention and alarmed us is how they recommitted to all of their original goals. My point is it's unlikely that they're going to change. No matter what deal we put together at the end of it, they're going to want to recover everything that they're

[Brian Kilmeade]

LOS So that is General Jack Keane with me about an hour ago. Iran's deal is done. I'll tell you what we know. And I'm still not convinced Iran can live up to any deal. So Charlie Hurt came in here a moment ago after filling in for Lawrence today and said, what are we talking about? And I said, I would.

[Jake Tapper]

You wouldn't tell me.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Right. So I'll just make it easy. Like I.

[Jake Tapper]

Like I had to guess this one.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Ready? Blue origin blew up on the launcher. What went wrong? Yeah, yeah.

[Jake Tapper]

Let me explain to you as a rocket scientist, let me explain to you what went wrong. Yeah. I loved what Elon Musk probably summed it up the best. He said rockets are hard.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yep. I love the way he was trying to get to. He's trying to get to Mars. Yeah. And what does he call his rocket to get to Mars? I forgot what he calls it. But what happens is he's got to get a good launch and he's got to get certain things and it blows up. And CNN and msnbc, since he's been so close to Trump, are actually cheering for the explosion. Yeah, He.

[Jake Tapper]

Their hero five minutes ago.

[Brian Kilmeade]

But by the way, he's not disappointed in the explosion. He says it's part of the progress they have to make. He said, I prefer it didn't, but they just learned a ton each time. And don't you know the way Elon Musk works if you read the book by Walter Isaacson? I mean, most of his. Most of his successes come after massive letdowns and failures, but they just. He keeps learning from it. He keeps pushing his engineers and he gets there. That's why I would never, ever sell him short.

[Jake Tapper]

That's the coolest thing about that book, is the way it captures. It's almost like he learned. Well, he does learn more from an explosion on the launchpad than he does something successful. He never, ever fails to learn lessons from all of it. And it's the same mindset that he has with a manufacturing line, an assembly line. He goes. When he decides to streamline either an assembly line or a rocket ship, what does he do? He goes through and he cuts out 25% of the parts to make it lighter, to make it more efficient. And his argument always is, if I haven't cut back so much that it hurts, then I haven't cut back enough. You can always go back and put things back in the process, but if you're not completely. If it doesn't hurt a little bit in the process, you're not completely rethinking

[Brian Kilmeade]

it before we get to Orion. Quick thing. Why is it the most successful people, they'll never have any paperwork with them? They never have like a shoulder bag. So I'm always, I mean, I have a backpack. Every time I go, why is this so heavy?

[General Jack Keane]

Right?

[Brian Kilmeade]

And I don't have a space company, you know, I don't have a company, you know, but I go, I'm carrying everything, everything. But I'm looking at the most successful people they with Jamie Dimon walks in, not a thing in his hand. Even his people don't have anything. So why is that?

[Jake Tapper]

Well, you're asking the wrong person. As a person that also has to lug around. Do you have your. Oh, yeah, no. And I'm only now beginning to learn that I can actually put a lot of stuff on my phone. So the phone, I use my camera. This phone has a, it has a camera. I don't know if you're aware of this, but you can actually. And you can screen grab things. And I screen grab things. If you go through my photos, it is thousands of pages of screen grabs of things that I've read and then had to circle because I can't remember anything anymore. But these geniuses. And the thing I love about Elon Musk, he's somebody that like our founders would look at. He, they, he is exactly who they wanted to succeed in the country that they were bringing.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And of all the fascinating people, the founding fathers remind me, he reminds me of two Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin. Yeah, because, I mean, when you look at Benjamin Franklin, oh, what did he do? The fire department. What did he do? Wood burning stove. What did he do? Electricity. What did he do? Convince the French to help us win a war? I mean, what couldn't he do? He looked at every day and say, why not Thomas Jefferson? The same thing. You know, you go into Monticello and he, he's got a weather system there. You know, he's got a clock and that he engineered himself. There's an archway where. In between rooms where he said he liked to lay out his books but didn't want to go to the bedroom to sleep. So he'd sleep in between rooms, not to waste any time.

[Jake Tapper]

And to this day, yeah, and to this day, the, the plants that he grew on that mountain in his, on his farm, he was able to grow plants that could not grow anywhere within 100, 100 miles of there. That in completely different growth zones in Virginia because of the way he used rock formations. He would build rock walls just the way, like reptiles use rocks to adjust their temperatures. He could keep. He could. You have a completely different growing zone on the south side of the mountain where you had these rocks that would retain heat all night long, even in the winter, because just the sun was coming down. He was able all of this straight out of his brain. He was a true Renaissance man. And they were all. Not only were they interested in politics and human nature, they were very interested in science. And Elon Musk is a student of science, obviously, but he's also a student of human nature.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Well, yeah, like you look at Jefferson, not a great speaker, hated it. Right. So everyone has a little bit of weakness. I mean, Elon Musk clearly has some weaknesses, but he got extreme successes. Also had a horrific upbringing with a terrible dad, a fantastic mom, but a terrible dad. So. And he's still trying to overcome that. So.

[Jake Tapper]

All right.

[Brian Kilmeade]

With something less impressive, let's talk about Jill Biden. So she gets a. I think it's 20 million, at least. 20 million advance, right. To write a book that nobody wants. I think it's almost like a payoff. And she's coming out and she actually thinks, Charlie, that she's got a compliant press still and a compliant Democratic Party that will back her. And he doesn't. If you are proof Alex Thomps and Jake Tapper wrote a book, looks like Alex Thompson's book that Jake Tapper put his name on personally. And they just talk about talking to 200 different staffers who were 200 different staffers that work for the Bidens, and talked about how he was consistently failing. Here he is. So keep in mind on CNN when Jill Biden comes out and says, well, my husband, I never saw him like he was in the debate before or after cut 37. Well, she says that she's never seen him act that way before since. But in the interviews that over 200 of which that Jake and I did,

[Daniel Hoffman]

other people did see him act like that in the months before and in the months after that.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And those moments became increasingly hard to predict, and the White House was increasingly trying to manage them to keep those moments out of public view. And eventually, you know, during the debate,

[Daniel Hoffman]

they could no longer hide those moments from the public.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So what did she expect? She knew this book was out already. Jake Tavern. What did she expect?

[Jake Tapper]

I mean, I don't know that she cares. I think that because she has always embarrassed.

[Brian Kilmeade]

You don't think she's embarrassed?

[Jake Tapper]

No, I don't. She wasn't embarrassed by her husband. Everything that her husband went through she wasn't embarrassed enough to actually look out for his personal best interest, was the

[Brian Kilmeade]

only one calling him out.

[Jake Tapper]

Yeah, but talk about the opposite of Thomas Jefferson or Elon Musk. These are people who have spent their entire lives in politics, and all they know are politics. They've spent their entire lives, and they've made a tidy little fortune off of politics. And I think that when her husband left office, I think that they looked around and they got desperate and they felt like, okay, the money train is over. The gravy train is over. We're not going to. We have no further value. So they have to squeeze every penny they can. And so they do a book like this because they view it as the only way forward in terms of making money. It was their last hope of squeezing another ounce out of the stone of politics.

[Brian Kilmeade]

We went over this when Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson released the book. We thought, really, you're saying everything we said, you were ridiculing us for doing it. And so we're a little bit over it. But think about the Democratic Party. They wanna have a situation where they don't like the Iran war. They wanna focus on illegal immigration that was going on in Newark. They wanna talk about. I don't know, they have Ken Paxton. The controversy's there. Do they? They do. They wanna talk about Susan Collins. They wanna talk, you know, but instead they're either talking about the autopsy that just came out, now they're talking about Joe Biden again in his cognitive decline. These are negative things that they're forced to digest.

[Jake Tapper]

Again, they want to talk about anything but the issues, because on the issues, Donald Trump has proven that they are wrong on every single major issue, from the border to their weird gender stuff, all that stuff that they're. That they can't defend. So they wind up just talking about this stuff. And to me, I. You know, I'm over it, too. And it's all sort of stuff that we've been talking about for a long time. But you do still have a lot of members of the Democrat Party, Chris Coons, for example, in the United States Senate, powerful people in positions of power who spent four years lying to us about all of this. To me, that is very significant.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Every time we talked about history, I remember in 11th grade, Woodrow Wilson had a stroke and his wife covered up for him, and we didn't find it two years later that she was making all the decisions, and they just salted him away. That was before the era of television. Do you think we're gonna be talking about this in decades from now? Well, that year in 2020-2024, when Joe Biden's wife covered for him. Do you think that we'll be talking like we do about Woodrow Wilson's wife after he had a stroke?

[Jake Tapper]

I think that, yeah, I do think we will be, but I think we'll be doing it in the context of Donald Trump from 2016 to 2028. All the ways that Donald every, he rewrote all the books on how to do politics, but also when it came to the actual issues, I've always argued that 2016, and the same is true about 2024. Both of those elections were the most issue oriented elections of our lifetime. They were actually about issues. Donald Trump didn't win because he was a nice guy. He won because he was talking about issues that nobody else wanted to talk about. And you had that interregnum where you have had Joe Biden, who the media loved and wanted to succeed, and he was an absolute, total, complete failure. And that failure, partly probably because he was losing his mind, partly because who knows who was in control, but also because the issues that he, that the party embraced are issues that nobody, even Democrats didn't want.

[Brian Kilmeade]

See, this worries me about the country. I looked at Spamberger ran as a moderate and so did Mikey Sherrill and so did Joe Biden. So we go, well, you know what, center left as opposed to center right. Okay, yeah. And they lied totally. Mondame didn't lie. You know, this woman, this Mayor Mondami is a socialist. So I know that that is a disaster. I look at the socialist, inept socialists in Seattle, I can't even remember her name, but never had a job before, lived with her parents and gets this job. And I look at these people that say who they are, and that's scary enough, but the ones that are deceiving, that's the worst.

[Jake Tapper]

Yeah. But I would say this, though. New York City, Seattle, San Francisco.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Those are San Francisco. This guy's better. The new mayor's good.

[Jake Tapper]

But those places are kind of weird places. They're weird little petri dishes of politics. What is so important to me about New Jersey and Virginia is that these are states that are, they're not Republican

[Brian Kilmeade]

states, 45%, but they're.

[Jake Tapper]

Yeah, they're, they're within range for legitimate Republicans, as we have seen with in New Jersey, as we saw with Glenn Youngkin in Virginia. But like you say, they ran the New York Times called Mikey Sherrill and Abigail Spanberger national security moms. They Talked about national security, they talked about enforcing laws, they talked about everything that was. Was mainstream. And then they govern as total radical wackos. And to me, that I take some hope from that, I think that Democrats are going to learn that they have completely blown themselves up by doing that.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I just wanna get you on the record. We haven't talked about this, but I saw Spencer Brat yesterday and he's totally different from Trump in many ways, but not all the one way. They're alike. They're totally authentic.

[Jake Tapper]

Totally.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And of course they're gonna look at their background, say they have no experience, but they don't care. Trump didn't care and Spencer Pratt didn't care. Here's a little of what he said on Fox and friends. Cut 20.

[Spencer Pratt]

I'm a registered Republican, but my supporters are all Democrats because Los Angeles is all Democrats. All the people financing me are Democrats. All the meetings I take every day are Democrats. Democrats are very angry with what happened to Los Angeles. They were fed a bunch of lies by Mayor Bass, who said she was gonna literally solve homelessness. She was gonna do all these things she didn't do. So they. All of the people that put her actually in office are now behind me.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So I see him in third in the latest poll, Charlie, and the minute we have left, I think he's wildly under polled. I think that he has. He's gonna get close to 50.

[Jake Tapper]

Yeah, just like within 2016 where you had the shy Trump voter, I think you have shy Spencer Pratt voters who just are sick and tired of it. And they're not right wingers, they're not conservatives necessarily, but they just are sick and tired of the nonsense in LA and they want things to work. And you know, by the way, if you're a Democrat and your belief is that government is the solution to all of these problems, wouldn't you want government to be competent? Wouldn't you want government to work properly? And it takes a guy like Spencer Pratt to walk out and say, no, actually, none of these things are working properly.

[Brian Kilmeade]

The mayor of San Francisco, according to almost all reports, he's a le. He, I guess he's from the. An heir to the Levi fortune. He's doing a really good job by doing some of the things that we talked about. No more needles. Cleaning up the homelessness.

[Jake Tapper]

And Karen bass is at 26%. To me, that is the most important number out of L. A.

[Brian Kilmeade]

We're going to see you on Saturday from 6am to 10 and Sunday from 6, and then Gutfeld tonight.

[Jake Tapper]

So I'm hoping after the break you're going to give me some tips on how to make Gutfeld be really nice to me.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Never going to happen and I'm the worst person to ask and you know

[Jake Tapper]

that you're not going to help me with that.

[Brian Kilmeade]

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[Tomi Lahren]

Is there a line that they would

[Rebecca Heinrichs]

cross for you to go on the offensive again militarily?

[Brian Kilmeade]

Well, a deal that wasn't going to be good for us is the line ultimately. Because you know, I'm playing it and we're going to see. And that's what I do. I negotiate. They negotiate. They're very good negotiators, they're crafty. But in the end we have all the cards. So I'm looking at this deal and it's just framed out and I think the president's just going to try to get to November and then blow their doors off because Iran is not going to live up to this. They're talking about a 60 day agreement pending Trump's approval. Straight of her moves, unrestricted minds removed. US Blockade lifted. Iran allowed to sell oil freely. Iran agrees not to pursue a nuclear weapon. They've never agreed not to pursue a nuclear weapon. Then talks begin on uranium disposal and enrichment. Okay, US to discuss sanctions relief and frozen funds. I mean you're talking $100 billion.

[Jake Tapper]

Now.

[Brian Kilmeade]

The deputy secretary of Iran's Supreme National Security Council came out and said Iran's assets must be returned, all of them, right away. Okay, not good. And their head of their parliament says we are going to maintain the right to enrich uranium. So am I to believe the deal? Am I to believe the people?

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[Volodymyr Zelensky]

In this moment we can see that even during our initiative on the battlefield, we've got it. We are in a better position than it was during the year. Even in such situation, we have such circumstances where our people are not saved. Civilians. First of all, I'm speaking about our civilians because of the big deficit with anti ballistic missiles and even the program poll which works doesn't help totally.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So that was President Zelensky talking about the progress they made and what they need to continue to fight off Russia. Who, man, how they turned it around. When people talk about countries that have persevered and ultimately will prevail, they're going to be talking about Ukraine for generations. They are already the strongest army in Europe. I would take them pound for pound over the Russians any single day. And I hope France, Sweden, Norway, England, everybody understands that. You better learn to defend yourself like Ukraine's been forced to. But man, fundamentally they know how to fight and they're not going to be beat. Daniel Bilak is part of that. He is member of the Territorial Defense forces of Ukraine, former chief investment adviser to the prime minister of Ukraine, and has been a great spokesperson for the fight. Daniel, how would you characterize things on the ground today in Ukraine? Thanks.

[Daniel Bilak]

Good to be back on, Brian. Well, we're definitely. Excuse me. We're definitely taking the fight back to the. I'm sorry about that.

[Brian Kilmeade]

You know what, why don't I play another cut from President Zelensky and have you comment on it? Because I want to. Once you hear the other one, let's listen.

[Volodymyr Zelensky]

Thank you for coming. These days, difficult days after massive attack. Thanks for your support. Bipartisan support. Very thankful to the United States and we are thankful to President and to the Congress of the United States. It's true, we had massive attack on Ukraine. I decided to wrote a letter to the Congress of the United States and also to the White House. I think that the situation is not simple because of these attacks. We have the questions with anti ballistic missiles and we are very thankful for the program portal and we are thankful for our dialogue.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So he wrote a letter to, you know, Congress. He was greeting Senator Richard Blumenthal along with Lindsey Graham has really stood by Ukraine and I hope we continue to support Ukraine. The one thing I just disagree with the President on, he doesn't seem all in and just wants to broker a peace deal. And I don't think he understands what's been innovated from that country. Daniel, it's amazing what you guys have done.

[Daniel Bilak]

Well, Brian, we're extremely grateful to the people of the United States for the support we've had in this battle from day one. I mean, without a doubt, without your support, we would not be here today. And, you know, the nature of that support has changed over time, but I think the support of the American people hasn't. I mean, you know, because of, you know, what you've been able to provide us with and what we're buying from you now, we're not only in this fight, but we're taking a fight back to them. As President Zelensky has said, we've captured more territory in the last two months than Russia took in the last nine months of last year. At horrific cost to them. They're losing 35,000 men a month where our losses are somewhere like 10 times less. And that's all been, it's all been tech. It's all been tech iterated. You know, as you know, I think I mentioned I'm a member of the board of something called Ukrainian Freedom Fund. And they had a big symposium in Boston recently where it was said that, you know, Ukraine is evolving as a laboratory of military adaptation and involves technology, organizational change and battlefield innovation. And this is constant iteration between the guys in the front line and the private sector. I mean, you know, it's not the government that's building these things and it's small companies, some have become quite big companies and we're iterating and making technological advances inside of, you know, weeks, not even months, you know, we're under massive attack, Brian. You know, last week we had 1500 drones and 90 missiles. Missiles shot at us. Most of those went, were aimed at Kyiv. And you know, these are big rockets now, so ballistic missiles, cruise missiles. And as President Zelensky said, we're running low on Patriot because the only thing that can shoot the big guys down, we're probably shooting down about 90% of the shaheds. The drones that are attacking us with interceptors, cheap interceptors that have been developed by American, European and Ukrainian companies that are, that are, that are highly effective. But you know, these, these big ballistic missiles, they. There was one cruise missile hit two weeks before this attack. A cruise missile hit an apartment building right next to my girl's school and brought the whole building down. Killed 24 people, including three children.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah, so there's. But, but you know, I was talking to these generals and you live it. But they said, if you want to see the future of fighting, don't look at Iran, look at Ukraine and what they've been able to innovate. And now, sure enough, you guys look at, to make money, I hope. But also you're helping out the Gulf states, helping out the European states. You're looking to do deals with people about what you guys have done and adapted to in real time. I mean, it's, it's unbelievable. You took out the Russian, the Ukrainians took out the Russian navy without the navy, without a navy. They literally tried to shut off, shut off your access to moving grain out of your country. And you Decided, well, we're just gonna take action ourselves. And now you blew open those waterways.

[Spencer Pratt]

Yeah.

[Daniel Bilak]

You know, that which doesn't kill you makes you stronger, Brian. And, you know, we're up against a terrorist state that wants to eliminate us as a people, as a nation, completely. And what we're seeing from Russia today is a sign of real desperation. The bombs that they're throwing at us, the missiles, these are made a month or two ago. They're not coming out of inventory anymore. And that's that asymmetrical warfare. I mean, the whole notion of warfare has changed dramatically. And I think the United States got a taste of that in Iran. I mean, the tactics that the Iranians were using, they learned from the Russians. And it just shows that how much Russia has been helping Iran kill American soldiers and attack American troops in the Gulf. This is not just some Iranian Revolutionary Guards. They are being backed by Russia and China. Who do you think is giving the Iranians the coordinates of where American troops are in and basis? Exactly.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Absolutely.

[Daniel Bilak]

And so, you know, this, this, you know, the United States is actually in Ukraine, are actually coming together much closer in terms of the kind of things that the. The American military, the most formidable fighting force in the world. But the nature of warfare is changing. $500. A $500 drone can take out a $5 million tank. And so, you know, the United States needs that battlefield technology and that battlefield experience. But we need things that you have that we can't make, like the Patriot missiles. And I think there is a lot that can be done here. The Gulf states are looking at building factories to make the kinds of drones that we've been manufacturing in Ukraine, cheap swarms, things that can take down all sorts of drones coming into the country in exchange for big ticket license agreements. That's going to help continue to fund our defense industrial base. So, Daniel, the United States is important behind that, too.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So I was in Germany, and there's a whole drone division of Ukrainians I met. They were in their 20s. I saw a general in his 40s at a military base, obviously, and I saw a bunch of drone operators. And they were just telling me how, you know, in the beginning, if you had a drone, you had a guy with a. With a joystick could be somewhere in Las Vegas, and they'd be controlling that operation in Afghanistan. Now, AI is you basically give it a mission and tell them to accomplish it. And the drone makes its own decisions. And we're watching some of this adjustment in real time, but it's obvious that this goes beyond Leadership. You know, it's not prime minister to president. Excuse me, it's not Secretary of State to president. A lot of this is military to military and they're just dealing with each other on a lower level but a more important level. Do you find that?

[Daniel Bilak]

Yeah, 100%. I mean, you know, we've got a very decentralized process where a lot of the brigades and army corps are able to procure the things they need on their own. Battlefield is now really all about, you know, organizing training and equipping. That's always been the case states, but it's in a far more granular fashion. There was an article in the Wall Street Journal recently about Operation Hedgehog, which was war games that took place in Estonia last year where 16 Ukrainian drone operators from the Nemesis Battalion in the unmanned systems forces basically took out two NATO battalions. Fifteen guys took out two NATO battalions. I know those guys and I asked them what was it like and he said it was a turkey shoot. He said they just, you know, and it's not their fault. They just, they just never had to face that kind of an old.

[Brian Kilmeade]

It's all changing in real time.

[Daniel Bilak]

That's really important.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah, thanks so much, Danny. I got, I got to end there up against hard break but continue to fight. We definitely have, you definitely have support of almost the, the entire country and it's amazing. We should be doing deals together rapidly because we have to bulk up our drone technology and we need some. We're putting about, I think $90 billion aside just for that. We should go to Ukraine to find it out, find out how to do it. Daniel Bielak, thanks so much. When we come back, Chad Bronstein joins us from raf. Don't move.

Diving deep into today's top story, it's Brian Kilmeade. The fastest three hours in Rad. You're with Brian Kilmeade.

Hey, we are back. And let's bring in Chad Bronstein, co founder and CEO of Real American Freestyle that debuted on Fox Nation. And he's been loyal to the network as. As wrestling has really grown in a way that no one thought possible. And they've tried this in the past. It's just not worked. They're now in their ninth event coming up in Dallas. It'll be live Saturday night competing with me in Reno, Nevada. How dare you, Chad? I'm going to be on stage in Reno, but you think you can beat me and you probably will over in Dallas starting at 8 o' clock on Fox Nation. So, Chad, as you continue to make progress you also have a big announcement, don't you?

[Chad Bronstein]

Yeah, well, we announced a big partnership with Fox. Another one. We've done six partners, six different deals with FOX in under eight months. And Brian, I always like to say it's on your show. I should be one of your favorite guests now. Yes, you are the reason why, introducing us to Gavin Haddon almost a year ago of why we're on fox. And so it's been an unbelievable partnership for us. We just launched a 14 show extension. We're doing our first youth tournament series, which is incredible. At Fox has partnered with us on that. So now the youth will be able to compete on the main stage every Sunday after our Saturday event. And we're also released with you guys like American Idol kind of format, trying out for the real. Trying not to be the next real American freestyle superstar. So we're gonna have an open call for people to actually come on. Brian, you could come on and single it like you had been before and try out for your chance to be on our stage.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So let me see. So I would probably. Right now, I'm 173. I'd have to get down to what would be a weight class probably in my vicinity. I'd probably get down to 150. And I'd have to hope that somebody. I have to hope that someone has no experience.

[Chad Bronstein]

You versus Real Woods. It's like, you know, let's try it.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Hey, so that's gonna be interesting. So you have a chance to do a Rocky story.

[Chad Bronstein]

Yeah, it's like, I think we're gonna see so many cool stories come out of that, to be honest. You like when we first I met with Fox about this idea, it was actually Foxes gave it, you know, we thought about this, but they kind of pushed us to do this. But it's a really cool. It's gonna. We're gonna have thousands of people trying out and you're gonna uncover some really cool stories. And some people that we may not have responded to because we got, obviously

[Sid Rosenberg]

we're moving

[Chad Bronstein]

and they have their opportunity to be seen.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So what you're also doing is a next gen program. So I can't tell you, the wrestling has always been big in my town of Massapequa and certain areas just like lacrosse, some areas it's hot bread, some areas it isn't. And the Midwest, obviously, it thrives at the college level. So what you're doing, trying to do is help the next generation. Literally, that's the name of it. And it launches July 19th in Milwaukee. What is the approach there.

[Chad Bronstein]

So you know, how I started this was because of my son, right? My son's almost 10 years old, but I wrestled my whole life. Kind of grew up, Brian, in the same area as you did with the big wrestling town. And you know, this was started off of a youth, right? Giving the youth the ability to meet their superstars, people they look up to. There's a big tournament series that happens all the time in youth. And everyone, every time we host an event, kids come up to us and say, hey, when's our shot? When's our shot to be on the big stage? So next gen's gonna give, it's like, it's a, you know, we have these long weekends. They're gonna have the opportunity to wrestle every Sunday and they have to wrestle in three tournaments out of six if they want to make it to our big call pay per view. Right? Our, our longer weekend where Friday the, the number one raf belt holder for the youth will go up against the number one contender the night before the main stage. So they'll have the same opportunity, same setup and they get to have the Eric Bischoff show production quality on that, on that main stage.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So if you're a wrestling family or your kids like to wrestle instead of, you know, you got your normal tournaments that are in this, in your town, got it, that's fine, go do it. But now you have a chance, almost like American Idol to almost like win your region and have a chance to do this on this platform and have a chance to wrestle in bigger and bigger events. What? There's no downside to that?

[Chad Bronstein]

Well, well, Brian, we actually partner with USA Wrestling on this too. And what's crazy is when we announced it, we didn't announce, we just announced Fox streaming deal a couple days ago. We announced the deal. Mexico, Puerto Rico, all these different New Zealand people were signing up to be the next raf next gen superstar. So in Milwaukee we have this event. We got 850 registrants the day of the. We launched it under 12, under 12. So 8U, 10U, 12U, 15U. And so what's also great is Fox investing in showcasing these athletes on Fox Nation is just, you know, there's never been. This has ever happened before in the sport of wrestling. But we're, we're, we're, we believe that youth obviously and that's most of our audience is family friend. We're a family friendly sport. And so it's a lot of youth that are coming to our events.

[Brian Kilmeade]

You know what's great is number one, it's great for the sport. I love when, I love when grassroots sports grow. Like basketball and football don't need any help. Right. But it's the other sports, gymnastics, you know, field hockey, wrestling. I mean there's sports that if you expose people to it, it'll really grow. And that's your goal. Not to just make money at the highest level. Everyone can do that. Major League Baseball, NFL. What you're doing is let's grow the next generation. Little League did that a little bit too, where they name all the teams the, you know, they were the Indians and the Yankees and the Mets. So they kind of, you get a loyalty to the Astros, whoever you played with as a kid. But you guys are going to start doing that now. Breed wrestling. And what I love about it is you're not running from USA Wrestling. And this way they don't feel as though you're a rival. You're partnering with them. So you have the nonprofit element to it that have been the bedrock of the sport.

[Chad Bronstein]

Yeah, you know, it's, it's. There's never been a pro league and USA wrestling. I, you know, we have a good relationship with them. They're. They're happy about this. Right. We're showcasing the sport on the biggest stage and, and they're most of USA Wrestling. Olympians or people that are competing are part of rap. So we have a symbiotic relationship. But yes, to your point, it's like the NBA has with their Olympic committees, right? Yeah, we're, we're professional league so we want to work with them. We're going to work with UWW and the international regions. But it's to give. It's like you said, we're not, it's not just to make money. It's to build the sport and that we're investing a lot of money in the sport.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And don't forget Saturday night, it's coming up on at 8 o'. Clock. We start at 7. So start watching us and then watch you guys. Undiscovered. The Search for the next RAF Superstar is a new original unscripted series also on Fox Nation. Hey, Chad, congratulations on all this. You are not letting there. You're not standing still on your success. You're continuing to expand. Congratulations, Brian.

[Chad Bronstein]

I'm the only thing I would say is you haven't been to one yet.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I know I got to come, but

[Chad Bronstein]

thank you for everything. Thank you. Everything you've done.

[Brian Kilmeade]

You're the best. Thanks so much. Chad Bronstein. Thank you. Keep it here, Brian. Kill me. You

from the Fox News radio studios in midtown Manhattan. It's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmeade,

[Daniel Bilak]

everyone.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So glad you're there. I come to you from midtown Manhattan. Heard around the country, around the world. We had a great YouTube channel now too. If you ever want to check us out there YouTube.com@the Brian Kilme show. So many people watching everything on YouTube and tell me about it. So it's great to have our own channel. Rebecca Heinrich is going to be with us, senior fellow at the Hudson Institute. We're going to break down what's happened with Iran. And Daniel Hoffman, former CIA station chief, served in Moscow, Iraq, Pakistan, South Asia, Europe and probably did a lot of things he can't talk about, but we'll try to get it out of him. He's got a great message this graduation season and we got to talk about what this deal is that might be framed out to stop the war in Iran. Come on, let's get to the big three.

[Charlie Hurt]

Number three, because I had never seen Joe like that before or since. Never seen him, never. I don't know what happened. I mean when I, as I watched it I thought, oh my God, he's having a stroke.

[Brian Kilmeade]

She's a liar.

[Charlie Hurt]

It scared me to death.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah, she's a liar. Biden's back and there's not a Democrat who's happy about it except Jill. We'll talk about it.

[Spencer Pratt]

Number two, what I've learned is I actually don't want celebrities to come out and endorse me. I don't want anybody to endorse me except for the moms and the animal lovers in la. That's my entire vote.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah, because that's backstretch for California. Will it give an upset minded Republican party a chance? Steve Hilton as governor, Spencer Pratt as mayor. Let's see if they can do it.

[General Jack Keane]

Number one, the thing that got our attention and alarmed us is how they recommitted to, to all of their original goals. My point is it's unlikely that they're going to change. No matter what deal we put together at the end of it, they're going to want to recover everything that they're losing.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Iran. Deal done, question mark. I'll tell you what we know and I'm not convinced Iran will live up to anything they say they will. And because I'm getting a lot of different things that they're saying. So here's essentially the deal. 60 day agreement to negotiate in that time, the Strait of Hormuzzi opens unrestricted mines removed The US Blockade lifted. Iran allowed to sell oil freely. Really? Iran agrees not to pursue a nuclear weapon. Do we possibly believe that talks begin on uranium disposal and enrichment? Well, that's good. US to discuss sanctions relief and frozen funds, maybe to a degree. Discuss humanitarian and aid and goods for Iran, that's okay, but this is crazy for Israel. The Israel Hezbollah war in Lebanon would end. Yeah, if you stop funding the proxies, then we could talk about that ending. But what is Israel supposed to sit there and watch Hezbollah rearm? Daniel Hoffman joins us now. Here's the definition of skeptical, usually. Well, Daniel, how do you feel about this memorandum of understanding?

[Daniel Hoffman]

Yeah, more than skeptical, Brian. Look, the, the point of our, our military operation inside Iran was to induce Iran to negotiate in good faith on their nuclear program, on their ballistic missile and drone programs, and on proxy terrorists. These are all the things that we didn't get to with the jcpoa. And President Trump rightly withdrew from the jcpoa, and he will be judged on whether he can deliver something better. Now, we've won every single kinetic engagement with Iran. But speaking frankly, we haven't achieved our strategic objective of bringing Iran to their knees and inducing them to negotiate. Negotiate in a way that would suit our own national security. I'm concerned because we have three elements of our leverage. It's the sanctions, it's the blockade, and the potential for US Military strikes. When we enter a negotiation phase, the potential for US Military strikes goes down. If we eliminate the blockade, that reduces a lot of leverage for us. And if we're talking about giving Iran money for showing up to negotiate, I don't like that either. So there's a lot of concerns going into these, going into this alleged agreement, but the President is rightly holding and we may yet see some, some changes to it.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And the one thing I'd say, Daniel, can count on the Iranians to not live up to a deal and force additional action. And if we force additional action, I think we'll have additional leverage. Here's the President yesterday. Cut three. Well, I think we're doing very well, I think starting to give us the things that they have to give us. And if they do, that's great. And if they.

[Spencer Pratt]

They won't, then the man on my

[Brian Kilmeade]

left is going to finish him off. And that man is left is Secretary of War Pete Hegseth. How equipped are we to finish them off?

[Daniel Hoffman]

Yeah, well, that's a real good question. You know, we've definitely expended a lot of our munitions, and it's not something The Trump administration is ever going to discuss publicly the extent to which we are prepared militarily to carry on additional strikes. I'm sure we are. But the question about whether that limits our ability to deter China in Asia or to deal with with Russia's barbaric war on Ukraine, those are questions the administration will be discussing behind the scenes. I don't expect us to learn a whole lot publicly about that.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I mean, them saying, come get the uranium, that's a yes or no. We have to come and get it. If they don't let us, we know. But when they say we're not enriching, we never believe that. I mean, you don't build a nuclear program into a mountain if you are not enriching to weapons grade. And then you have the pickaxe situation, which we really have not affected because it's so effectively been buried inside that huge mountain.

[Daniel Hoffman]

Look, it's the post war phase that concerns me a great deal. If Iran has given sanctions relief, we know where that money's going. It's not to build girls schools. They're going to rearm and reconstitute their weapons of mass destruction. They're going to provide funding to proxy terrorists to carry on attacks in the region and beyond. And that. That concerns me greatly. We have not. We decapitated the regime, but we didn't change the regime or its behavior. We're going to have to deal with them long term unless we go back to military strikes and take out this leadership in the hope that the next round of leaders might be more amenable to negotiating in good faith.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I want you to hear what General Jackeen told me this morning.

[General Jack Keane]

Cut 11 where the Iranians are. They want to stretch these negotiations out as long as possible because then they think in their minds it's less likely the president will go back into military operations. But they have miscalculated about this president before and that's dangerous on this part and they would likely do that again here.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I mean, they just know one thing. He's totally. To them, he's totally unpredictable. Would you, isn't that you as a CIA guy, if I told you to study President Trump? He'd be a very hard guy to study because you don't really see patterns. Am I right, Dan?

[Daniel Hoffman]

No. No patterns and a willingness to take great risk like a riverboat gambler. You know, President Trump has succeeded and failed in business and he is willing to take risks when it comes to foreign policy. No other president would have thought of doing what he did in Venezuela or is putting, or put the pressure on Cuba or would launch an attack to kill the IRGC commander soleimani back in 2020 or this war against Iran. So yes, he is very hard, hard indeed to predict. But the Iranians are also, it's worth remembering, a junior partner in this century's axis of dictatorships. And they know if they delay US strikes, that just gives them more time to receive assistance from their allies, Russia and China.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So we hear this story, we know that Iran was, China was getting around the sanctions by buying oil on this, this so called shadow fleet. Well, evidently Iran has been getting billions of dollars from China still through this entire process. 31 billion from oil sales to China just last year. China accounts for about 90% of their sales. And now they talk about the shadow, the so called teapot refineries that are getting some of this sanctioned oil and putting them into the Chinese economy. Does it surprise you that they would say one thing and do another to us?

[Daniel Hoffman]

No, that's what China does. And look, China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, they're all allied together and they share an interest, particularly Russia, Iran and China in reducing or eliminating altogether US influence in the Middle East. So it would open up opportunities for China. China operates to a great degree in the Middle East. They've got factories in Oman. They've sought closer relationships with Gulf states. They want to portray the United States as an unreliable ally. That's the long game for Iran as well, with support from Russia and China. And that's something that we have to be dealing with and countering.

[Brian Kilmeade]

What about leverage points? What about we tell the Gulf states, you got to make a choice. You pressure China to stop financing Iran because Iran made it clear the Gulf states are the enemy. They've been going after Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, Oman in the beginning as well as Saudi Arabia. So why don't the Gulf states use their leverage point and say make a choice? China?

[Daniel Hoffman]

Yeah, look, it's either us or them. And that's over to Secretary Rubio to conduct the diplomacy with our Gulf state allies and partners to ensure that they make the right choice. You're allied with us. That means that you shouldn't be doing business with the Chinese, Oman, Saudi Arabia, UAE and others. UAE has a lot of Russian money right now in their country. They need to deal with that as well. And that's just part of diplomacy. And it's over to Secretary Rubio to make that happen.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So right now Iranian officials are urging its long suffering people to conserve water, fuel and electricity. Now they already had shortages. I don't know, Dan, how in touch you are with people that might know what's going on in Iran. But what is the situation? The best you know, it.

[Daniel Hoffman]

I mean, it's, it's been awful for, for years and years. But the irgc, which is in charge of Iran, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, with the besieged paramilitary force supporting them, doesn't care. They will deny human rights to their population and suppress them. The population doesn't have the wherewithal to overthrow the regime. The regime has a lot of weapons and a lot of guys who are willing to shoot innocent people. So, yes, there's a lot of pain being felt. But again, I can tell you that even if Iran were to receive some sanctions relief, that money's not going into making life better for Iranians, nor do I see the potential for any change in the regime by virtue of the fact that they've modernized their economy or received additional money for reconstruction. I just don't see any of that happening. They define themselves based on being at war with the United States and Israel,

[Brian Kilmeade]

and they're good at that. But who do we talk to? I'm reading quotes from their Deputy Secretary of the National Security saying Iran's assets must be returned to in full, full and unconditionally. All right, all the frozen funds. That's $100 billion, maybe more. That's not gonna happen. And then their head of the Iranians Parliament's National Security Committee comes out and says Iran's red lines include the country's right to enrich uranium. Okay, that's, that's a nonstarter, too. That's not in the deal. So not only do they not. Are they not true to their word? We don't know whose word we're taking.

[Daniel Hoffman]

Well, this is public posturing and they need to appear tough for their own. Okay. Regime, for the, for the guys in their own regime. And also because they are the leader of the resistance, as they like to call it, it against Israel, United States. So they want to look and sound tough to their proxy terrorists, to Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis and the Shia militants. Proxy militants in Iraq. That's why you're seeing all of this now behind the scenes, Brian. There may be discussions happening there to which we are not privy, where Iranians are more open about deals they may be willing to make, but they could never say so publicly. That's just not going to happen. Happen. Not. Not with these guys.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So just talk about Ukraine real quick before we go. It looks like last night the Russians hit a apartment building in Romania Why would a country that's losing 35,000 soldiers a. A week. Right. 35,000, let's say. So they're losing this. They're actually losing ground. We just had an official on from Ukraine. They've gained more ground over the last month than the Russians have gained in the last nine months. So they're really taking a pounding.

[Jake Tapper]

Why would it be working to their

[Brian Kilmeade]

advantage to hit a NATO ally?

[Daniel Hoffman]

So Putin has multiple objectives going on at the same time. The reason why they would be fine with drones flying into NATO member airspace or hitting a population in Romania is because they want to demonstrate that NATO is feckless to deal with any Russian threat. It's a probe, and it's. It's. It's a dig at NATO and US Leadership of NATO. And look, the. To me, at least strategically, we should be taking the fight to Iran and supporting Ukraine, and that's how we get at Russia, Iran, and China and North Korea. The lineup is real clear here. It's more clear now than it's been since the 1930s when we're fighting Hitler. It's us against dictatorships, and Ukraine is very much the geopolitical fault line between dictatorship and democracy. And we can either side up with the Ukrainians, who are providing a lot of assistance to the Gulf states on counter drone warfare. I think we should be doubling down, as many others, General Keane, General Kellogg have said we need to be doubling down on our support to Ukraine. That's how we deal with Iran more effectively as well.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Dan, aren't they the number one army in Europe right now?

[Daniel Hoffman]

Yeah, I kind of want them on my side also, the way they've integrated intelligence into their war fighting, along with. With this century's revolution in military affairs. Drones. And they are the leaders. Absolutely.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Daniel Hoffman, thanks so much. But lastly, before we go, you had a message that you wrote in your column about for high school seniors and people graduating. What is that message?

[Daniel Hoffman]

So the message was embrace the unexpected. I didn't come up with that myself. That was a valedictorian. A kid named Seth Scott delivered an inspiring graduation speech to his classmates at Plano Senior High School in Texas back in 2018. And he encouraged his fellow graduates to be undaunted about the future, to take risks. And I've just found that in my own life after retiring from CIA, those words just resonated deeply with me. Rely on education and continue to learn. Learning is a lifelong journey, and that's how we deal with whatever unexpected events might happen in our lives for me and my kids. It was my wife being diagnosed with terminal cancer when she was 37 and passing away four years later when our kids were 11 and 8. But we embraced the unexpected and we dealt with it. We didn't waste time focusing on things we couldn't do anything about. We tried to find a path to philanthropy that would soothe our broken hearts by working with the Jesse Reese foundation to support kids in the fight for their lives against pediatric cancer. So I just thought it was a message I wanted to share with kids as they enter, you know, a new phase in their lives, whether they're moving on for more school or, or maybe taking a break to, to go into the workforce.

[Brian Kilmeade]

How are you kids doing?

[Daniel Hoffman]

Listen, I always say the best thing I did for them was marry their mom. So they are excelling on the sports field and in the classroom. Thanks to mom and, and I'm grateful for that.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Awesome. Daniel Hoffman, thanks so much. Appreciate it. And we'll be talking to you again as this deal formulates. Thank you. Daniel Hoffman, former CIA station chief in multiple trouble areas and he's a FOX News contributor. Back in a moment.

Politics, current events and news that affects you. Brian's got a lot more to say. Stay with Brian Kilmeade. The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmeade.

Other people did see him act like

[Daniel Hoffman]

that in the months before and in the months after that.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And those moments became increasingly hard to predict.

[Rebecca Heinrichs]

And I just wonder if that's not something that the Democrats are not gonna

[Brian Kilmeade]

have to deal with for the next

[Rebecca Heinrichs]

two years or at least that make that may come up.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Conversation should be had about the deceptiveness that was behind this.

[Rebecca Heinrichs]

Like that's the conversation that I think

[Spencer Pratt]

ought to be had, that Joe Biden was not going to be a credible candidate for president because of his age and declining health.

[Brian Kilmeade]

That is ridiculous. It's farcical but true. All those Democrats weighing in demand. And I look at the CNN hosts as she's clearly left wing. Want to know an explanation of what happened to Joe Biden, why his failure was covered up. It wasn't covered up.

[Daniel Hoffman]

Up.

[Brian Kilmeade]

He didn't admit to it, but it wasn't covered up. His doctor should be really cold on the carpet. That's a guy that should get bipartisan ridicule because he would not answer the question, would not sit down for an interview, would not hold the press conference because he was basically covering up for with a guy. Now we find out massive cancer, by the way. No, everyone forgets about that. He's going through treatment. And then we find out that, you know, we see before our eyes him faltering, not being able to walk, not being able to talk, not being able to think, understand it. Mixing up names and who's dead and who's alive and thinking, naming world leaders that have been in office since the 1970s or 80s. I mean, Helmut Cole, he was saying the most ridiculous things. Prime Minister Midorand of France. So we were pointing it out. Nobody was saying it. When you pointed out, you were called, you were cruel. Now everyone's pointing it out. Is just so crazy that the former first lady is going to write a book and think she can still snow the majority of the media who don't need the Bidens anymore. They're going to hammer her. And the fact that she could not anticipate that blows me away. We come back, Rebecca Heinrichs on what's the stakes in the Middle East? Don't move.

So busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Kilmeade.

There are a lot of details to work out. But what I mean is I think we're making progress. We're getting to a point where we could potentially sit down and settle these issues, but that requires us to make a little bit more progress. I can't guarantee that we're going to get there, but right now I feel

[Sid Rosenberg]

pretty good about it.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And that is the vice president yesterday at a commencement address for Air Force Academy. With us right now is Rebecca Heinrich, senior fellow at the Hudson Institute, just back from Ukraine. But what was harder is getting here from Washington.

[Rebecca Heinrichs]

That's right.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Right. Because they because of fire at Penn Station, it backed up all trains coming from the south.

[Rebecca Heinrichs]

Right.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So they just told you trains are canceled, can't get in.

[Rebecca Heinrichs]

Right. I showed up 5:30am this morning. They told me to find another way to New York.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And you did?

[Rebecca Heinrichs]

I did. Got the last seat on a Delta flight.

[Brian Kilmeade]

All right. So we appreciate it. So this is what we know. US Blockade gets lifted. Iran allowed to sell oil freely. Iran agrees not to pursue a nuclear weapon. Talks begin on uranium disposal and enrichment. US to discuss sanctions relief and frozen funds, humanitarian aid. And don't let Israel hit Hezbollah anymore in Lebanon. What do you think?

[Rebecca Heinrichs]

Well, a couple of those already crossed President Trump's red lines. So I'm still really skeptical. So the president Trump's been very clear that Israel obviously has a right to defend itself. So as long as Hezbollah keeps firing at Israel, Israel's going to have a right to defend itself. The other thing, too, you know, I talked to a senior White House official a few days ago who's told me that there's no way there's going to be any lifting of U.S. blockade or removal of U.S. forces until there is demonstrated Iranian behavior that lets the strait open. And so far to my knowledge, the Iranians want the condition of the blockade lifted first before they let you know, before they say that they're not going to fire on ships in the strait. So I'm still very skeptical that we've got Iranians operating in good faith. I understand the administration's goal is to get that straight open as soon as possible to get energy prices down. But I remain skeptical.

[Brian Kilmeade]

They also want does President Trump them? Saudi Arabia, Anybody who has not joined Bahrain, UAE has already joined anyone not in the Abraham Accords to join. How do you feel about that? Well, look, Saudis have said no, not until a Palestinian state is formed. Really?

[Jake Tapper]

Yeah.

[Rebecca Heinrichs]

I mean, look, the Gulf states are the reason that the United States is being restrained in Project Freedom. Remember, like Project Freedom was this great mission. I thought Rubio explained it really well. The chairman of the Joint Staff explained it really well. Hegseth explained it really well. Purely defensive operations take out IRGC militia in the strait that are shooting on any ships. We've got over 1,000 ships still trapped in the strait. And so this idea was purely defensive operation to open up the strait forcibly. And it was the Gulf states that said don't do that because if you do that, the Iranians are gonna retaliate against critical infrastructure in our countries. And so President Trump wants this coalition with the Gulf states. So he put the brakes on Project Freedom. So I think he's totally right to say look, we're gonna go a different way to try negotiat. But at the very least, all these Gulf states that, that have seen how bad the Iranians are, they owe us this normalization with Israel. Get with the program.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So you can't with not funding the proxies and limiting ballistic missiles. That is not a part of the memorandum of understanding. We assume it's going to be in the 60 day negotiation. But you can't tell Israel don't bomb no more fighting in Lebanon by the same time allow Iran to go fund and prop up Hezbollah again.

[Rebecca Heinrichs]

That's right. I mean remember, they never agree to that.

[Spencer Pratt]

They should.

[Rebecca Heinrichs]

No, no. And remember, you know, Iran is still has not renounced its support for these Shia militia groups outside of its borders. And Iran funds, as you said, Brian, funds, trains and supports Hezbollah. And so it can't it cannot make a condition that the Israelis cannot defend themselves against its main proxy group.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Right. So militarily, do you think. I think the military would love to be able to finish the job. Is that what you're getting?

[Rebecca Heinrichs]

Yeah. My understanding is, you know, I keep hearing people say, look, Rebecca, there are limits to what our military can achieve. I mean, of course, in theory that's true, but President Trump's initiation of epic fury demonstrated overwhelming military competency. I mean, we have the Iranians totally, completely vulnerable right now. We know that there are Iranian surface to air missiles, surface to ship missiles, all along the coastline in the Strait of Hormuz. We know that they have this ability to have to launch these fast boats against these ships. Our military can take those out. We have drone defense against on some of our ships, and we have the ability to offensively go after these fast boats through Warthogs. Yeah. So I'm totally in favor, at the very least along the coastline, we gotta get rid of these IRGC militia, because even if there's some kind of deal, what I don't like is the optics and the substance of the Iranians actually giving us permission to operate in the Strait.

[Brian Kilmeade]

That can never happen because it's a bad precedent for all international waters around the world. Here's General Jack Keane on what he guarantees.

[General Jack Keane]

Cut nine we know they're going to cheat. Look at this. Just this week alone with the violation of the ceasefire and the Straits of Hormuz. Who's doing that? The Iranians are doing that. And we had to react to it. Look what they've done in Lebanon. The ceasefire began on April 8, and since April 8, less than two months, they have fired rockets and missiles into northern Israel. Over 900 times 1,200 plus drones have been fired into northern Israel, all since April 8th. And that is under the guise of a ceasefire. And the Israelis are in a defensive crouch because they're abiding by the terms of the deal, which is they can only conduct defensive operations. I point this out because it reminds us who we really are dealing with here.

[Brian Kilmeade]

You don't need a reminder, Rebecca. But I think the rest of the world understand we're not dealing with an equal partner. They could be trusted. One thing is consistent. They never have been able to be trusted.

[Rebecca Heinrichs]

That's right. And I hear a lot of people say, look like, you know, wars end in negotiations and diplomacy, but only after one side has its will broken and is no longer willing to fight. And the Iranians are still willing to fight, even though the United States has completely taken out their proper navy. The IRGC still has these fast boats in the Strait. We've taken out their air force. We've taken out a significant ability of them to produce missiles, their defense industrial capacity, their steel industry, their plastic industry. And now we're sitting there, and they're still terrorizing the Strait of Hormuz because their will is not broken. You still see Iranian politicians on X, you know, being very provocative, mocking the United States. And so, you know, until the United States can compel the Iranians to say, look, you've lost, and now we dictate terms. You do not dictate terms. I think this thing is still going to be a major problem.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So I went. We. You were over in Ukraine and you were there for how many days?

[Rebecca Heinrichs]

Seven days in country and one day in Moldova.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So I want you to. Senator Richard Blumenthal said some positive things. Cut 17. Let me just dispel a couple of myths. America is not leaving Ukraine. Our diplomats are here to stay. Today, we're standing behind Ukraine, as we have done from the outset. We will not be cowed by Russian threats or bullying. We're not scared. And neither should the people of Ukraine be cowed in any way by this kind of bullying. So they need patriots right now. President Zelensky said they're doing good drone to drive. What did you find when you were there?

[Rebecca Heinrichs]

Yeah, couple of things. One, the amazing resilience of Ukrainian people. I mean, I met with political leaders, military leaders, civil society leaders, spent over an hour with President Zelensky and an hour with the First Lady. But really, the remarkable people who I met were just sort of the everyday Ukrainians, elderly ladies of Ukraine, going into these community centers and making camouflage netting for Ukrainian troops. Very pro us, pro freedom. Incredible people. Yeah. The big takeaway for me is the Ukrainians are not asking for much of the United States at this point. They have got drone production capacity. They've got more to teach us than we can give on drone fighting. But they do need patriots, and the United States is the only one that can produce these things. And they need them because the Russians are firing missiles. And the Ukrainian people need to have the confidence that they can be protected so that they can go to work and send their kids to school. And that's why they need American patriots.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Right. Do you think they'll be able to get them?

[Rebecca Heinrichs]

They should. I mean, so far, production's a problem. Production is a problem only if the United States doesn't make it a priority. So the United States has The ability to produce the necessary patriots as long as we don't do stupid things like say, look, we need these for a future potential conflict with China. In theory, I get that. We've got a war right now with an ally right now. The other important point, Brian, is that the Ukrainians, when they use the patriot systems, they learn how to adapt them. So then we learn how to adapt them. So then the patriots that we are iterating are even better than they were before we sent them.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And the Russians, you say, look at this as a fight against the U.S. oh, totally.

[Rebecca Heinrichs]

So the other thing I learned in Ukraine is hearing all of these briefings is the Russians view Ukraine as a pro west, pro democracy nation that stands in the way of the. Of the Russians ability to push the United States out of Europe and break up NATO. So ultimately, the Russians fear the United States. They don't really take the Europeans seriously. They see Ukraine as standing in the way of their biggest adversary, which is the United States.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Poland understands that. Right. The Baltics understand that. And yesterday Romania's apartment building got hit by a Russian drone. In Romania, that is a NATO out ally. What should our response be?

[Rebecca Heinrichs]

Well, more than just a sort of bland denunciation. I mean, the United States should clearly say that it was the United. That it was Russia that acted aggressively against Romania, that we defend Romanian territory. Remember, the Romanians are very pro US too. Romanians have been great. Even on Epic Fury. They've been one of the countries that have said, hey, whatever you need, we want to be able to help and provide help. And so I think that the United States needs to stop trying to be like the mediator, sort of the middle person here and needs to clearly be on the side of Ukraine, needs to bolster NATO's front, which is, you know, if we want to shift some troops from Germany, don't bring them out of Europe, shift them to Romania and to Poland and the Baltic nations. That's a great place for them to be. And it can still encourage our European allies to step up as well.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I know. I think they got the message. I mean, Sweden and Norway, Finland, I get it. They get it. Poland gets it. The Baltic nations, the best they can, but they're tiny. Yep, understood. You know who still doesn't get it is France and England's playing like under 2%. And what did they show us? They had three ships.

[Rebecca Heinrichs]

Yeah, they got it. They have got a major domestic problems. They got to invest in defense. Absolutely. The one country we have not mentioned, though, is Germany is actually really stepping up I was really surprised when we were in Ukraine to see the economic support and aid that the Germans are stepping up and providing to the wealthiest European country. They should. But the German, Germans, I mean, under Chancellor Mertz, I mean, he's no Angela Merkel. I mean, he really is investing in German defense industry. And so he really is headed in the right direction.

[Brian Kilmeade]

That's good because I know that there's a bit of a fracture. I am shocked after the initial surge and president does things different. Taking out the ayatollah, wiping out 40, ultimately 60, maybe 80 of their leaders. They said our allies were upset. Okay, they were upset. They said we should have been ridden. Understood. But we wanted the element of surprise. You could debate that at the military level at some war kind of college. But since then, they've done nothing. Meeting without us. How they gonna open up the strait when the conflict's done? I mean, that is really. That is really arrogant and I don't think realistic. Do you really wanna ally the person who's been your back. The country that's been your backstop for the last 60 years?

[Rebecca Heinrichs]

Right. So the United States is the leader of NATO. I, you know, I'm a big proponent, as I know you are, Brian, of making NATO stronger. The United States needs these countries. We're still operating, trading out of Germany, out of England, now somewhat out of France, a little bit out of Italy for epic fury. That's how we project power into the Middle east is from these European bases. And I do think if you talk to these European leaders, they'll say, look, nobody cares. Everyone's glad the Ayatollah is gone. We know that Iran posed a major threat to Europe, but they still have these political problems with the United States. So one of my recommendation is I wish that the United States would focus our diplomacy on the Europeans and the Gulf states and not with the Iranians right now and get a coalition of the willing to open up this Strait of Hormuz and get something in place. Because if you bring the Europeans on board, one nation individually doesn't have enough firepower, but collectively they do. And they can help us.

[Brian Kilmeade]

They would. And they also had snapback sanctions. They decided to put the snapback sanctions on. So we're not alerting them to a problem. They acknowledge that problem.

[Spencer Pratt]

They do.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So we'll see what happens. Lastly, the president's still gonna go to the G7, still gonna go to the NATO conference, at which time, what do you think the posture will be against him? It'd be aggressive, like the Canadian leader Or do you think they'll understand, like the general secretary, that the US has to be dealt with respectfully?

[Rebecca Heinrichs]

Yeah, I think it's the latter. I mean, look, I think interests ultimately prevail in the end. And as frustrating and as angry as you can get on some of the different things that the United States has done, and all of these European countries know that they cannot replace what the United States brings to the protection of the free world, the west of which they're still included. They can't replace it, not in the near future, not in my lifetime. And so they know, I think Secretary General Rute is really the leader to follow here. He gets it. And that is my hope that the countries follow his lead.

[Brian Kilmeade]

All right, Rebecca, thanks so much. I hope the country follows your lead, too. Anyone who has to go to New York for D.C. because you were dexterous enough to have another mode of transportation and you didn't want to drive, Correct?

[Rebecca Heinrichs]

That's right. Didn't want to drive.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Absolutely. Rebecca Heinrich, thanks so much. Senior fellow at the Hudson Institute.

Back in a moment where big stories meet bigger conversations. Stay informed and energized with the Brian Kilmeade Show. Information you want, truth you demand. This is the Brian Kilmeade Show.

[Charlie Hurt]

Did you ever see signs that he was falling into cognitive decline?

[Tomi Lahren]

No.

[Charlie Hurt]

People were saying he wasn't the same Joe Biden. Well, I don't think that's true. He was the same. The essence of the same Joe Biden. But yeah, he was slowing down. He was getting older. I mean, we all observe that when, you know, it's a very intense job. I think it ages you quickly.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Come on, give me a break. Ages you quickly. Slowing down, he couldn't do the job. He wasn't slowing down. He couldn't do the job. And that's the story that Celeste yet to come out. And it's obviously do not buy her book. The last thing you want is for Jill Biden to become a best seller. Tell her why. She just makes up stuff and people aren't even buying it. I hope like nine people buy this book because name a Democrat that wants to hear Jill Biden story. Jill Biden, an inconsequential first lady, unless of course, she was running the entire country. Does anyone vote for Jill Biden or would have voted for her? Are you kidding? Here's some of the other Democrats and what they said cut 30 other people did see him act like that in

[Daniel Hoffman]

the months before and in the months after that.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And those moments became increasingly hard to predict.

[Rebecca Heinrichs]

And I just wonder if that's not something that the Democrats are not going

[Sid Rosenberg]

to have to deal with for the

[Rebecca Heinrichs]

next two years or at least that make that may come up conversation should

[Brian Kilmeade]

be had about the deceptiveness that was behind this.

[Rebecca Heinrichs]

Like that's the conversation that I think

[Spencer Pratt]

ought to be had that Joe Biden was not going to be a credible candidate for president because of his age and declining health.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Health, okay, he shouldn't have been president. And if you said that when he was president or even leaked it out to anonymous sources, it would have certainly been helpful and by the way, it would have helped your own party. But what happened is, and I'm sure this is going to be written so Joe Biden thinks he's a one term president. He said I'm a transitional figure and it was just understood that it'd be foreign done. But at the midterm elections, basically due to Roe v. Wade, that decision, it was supposed to be a red wave. But after Roe v. Wade, so many women were motivated because they thought that they there abortion was at, you know, even though abortion's gone up since Roe v. Wade was overturned, since abortion was on the ballot, they were motivated and therefore the, the House barely went to Republicans and the Senate stayed. So what happened? Joe Biden says, I'm popular. I passed three pieces of major legislation, did bipartisan gun reform, did infrastructure deal, got some buy in from from Republicans wins. And then I did my ridiculous new green deal. I'm popular, look, I'm staying. And nobody pushed him out. Nobody said, but Joe, you're not good. You're not making any sense. I mean I've seen you, I've talked to you, you know, you nodded off while we're talking, you know that you can't even have meetings. You know, there's no weak cabinet meetings. The last one was led by your wife. You can't do that. Instead they just said go for it. Everyone's afraid to say it. So then everything fell apart in 2024 because they did well in 2022 too. And it paved the way for President Trump just to play it beautifully and becomes president. And now he's doing consequential things. The thing, things I will not tolerate is people saying that Donald Trump is slipping. Yeah, there are times when he nods off. Maybe I don't know if he did the other day, but it makes total sense to me because I do it. I don't have cognitive problems. What happens is when you sleep four to four and a half hours if you're in a Hot location or sitting down too long, that happens. President sits down these cabinet meetings, wants to sit down these other things in situations you're not off. What he could do is get eight hours sleep. There'll be zero problems.

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sewing division, it's Brian Kilmeade.

All right. From 40th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan heard around the country, around the world. It's going to be a big hour coming your way. Go to our YouTube channel at any time, by the way, get the whole show, portions of the show and other things I'm doing throughout the channel. YouTube.com at the Brian Kilmeade show. And don't forget One Nation Sunday at 10 o'.

[Chad Bronstein]

Clock.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Got a great lineup starting with Harvey Levin's going to bring us inside this Los Angeles race for mayor and the California race for for governor. And he sees it up close and personal and how Hollywood is going with Spencer Pratt but they're not saying it publicly. And the one guy against him of course is Jimmy Kimmel. Why wouldn't he? He gets everything that's not left wing and radical. Tomi Lahren is warming up to come in to come on with us. He's going to be co host of the big weekend show, go six hours over the weekend. And Sid Rosenberg, hostess Hidden Friends in the morning on 77. WABC is going to weigh in on many things including the mayor's decision. Decision. First time ever a mayor in New York City not to march in the Israeli parade on Sunday. So let's get to the big three.

[Charlie Hurt]

Number three, because I had never seen Joe like that before or never seen. Never. I don't know what happened. I mean when I as I watched it I thought oh my God, he's having a stroke.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah, too bad first lady. Then he quickly went to the Waffle House. Biden's back. There's not a Democrat who is happy about it except Jill because she has a book to sell.

[Spencer Pratt]

Number two, what I've learned is I actually don't want celebrities to come out and endorse me. I don't want anybody to endorse me except for the moms and the animal lovers in L. A. That's my entire vote.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah, because that's backstretch for California. Will it give an upset minded Republican a chance? Steve Hilton, does he have a chance? Spencer? Spencer Pratt, does he have a chance? We'll talk about it.

[General Jack Keane]

Number one, the thing that got our attention and alarmed us is how they recommitted to all of their original goals. My point is it's unlikely they're going to change. No matter what deal we put together, at the end of it, they're going to want to recover everything that they're losing.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And right now they're meeting in the Oval Office about should they take these deal points on a memorandum of understanding and negotiate for the next 60 days. That is General Jack Keane with me this morning. I don't believe one word they say ever, and nobody else does either. I think this is a delay, a game, and I think ideally we'll get everything paused, open up the straight, and then blow them away after the midterms. Tommy Lahren joins us now. Hey, Tommy.

[Tomi Lahren]

Great to talk to you, Brian. And I'm so happy that we're talking about la. We're talking about all the big stuff. You know, I'm very, very interested in, especially that mayoral race in la, only a few days now, so very excited to get to talk to you about that.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So I'm looking at the, I'm looking at the, I guess the latest poll, and it looks like Spencer Pratt's if I'm gonna believe this poll is in, is it, you know, very close third, But I don't really believe the poll. In fact, he says don't believe any of it. He says he thinks he's gonna get over 50% because that's the type of response he's getting. But people are afraid to speak up. So this Berkeley poll has Bass with 26, Rahman with 25, and Pratt with 22. Used to live out there. What do you think?

[Tomi Lahren]

I think that the polls are definitely underperforming for Spencer Pratt for exactly the reason that you outlined. There are a lot of people in Los Angeles who might not even be conservative minded, but they're so afraid of being labeled a conservative because they support somebody who happens to be a Republican but is also not running as a Republican that they don't want to answer accurately in the polls. So I think he's definitely underperforming the reality in the polls. I think there are a lot of folks in Los Angeles who not only had their minds completely changed with the Palisades fires and all of that, but also just folks that are realizing that those homeless encampments, they're not just staying on skid row. Skid row is awful. It's horrible. There's animal abuse, drug use, youth. It's despicable. But those encampments, anybody who's been to la, especially in the last five or six Years knows those encampments are pretty much everywhere. And even the folks there that have big money, Hollywood money, you know, they live in the life of luxury. It's starting to impact their quality of life. And I don't know how they could possibly vote for either the current mayor, Karen Bass, or somebody who sits on the city council. Nifty A. Rahman. It just defies logic to vote for either of those two.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So I talked to the president last week and I asked him about Spencer Pratt. He said, well, what do you think? And I told him what I thought. He thought it was very impressive. He's very comfortable who he is and he did his homework in order to have an opinion on the issues that matter most. And he said the problem is voting and the voter integrity there. So here's what Spencer Pratt said on Fox and Friends to me on that cut 21, we will definitely win if

[Spencer Pratt]

everyone who's as angry as me in Los Angeles just goes and votes. And they don't just share things on social media, tell their friend they're angry. They physically go vote and they don't have to wait till June 17. Second. A lot of people are concerned about elections and you've got to vote in person. No, you vote today, you put it in the mailbox, you drop it in the ballot box. We win with the most votes. And a lot of people, again in California are concerned about, oh, election fraud. We can always outvote cheating, period. And we can do that literally in the next five days with just moms alone and animal lovers, because I'm also going to stop the abuse of these dogs on the streets and then and these alleged no kill shelters that are killing thousands of dogs.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So he thinks, hey, you know, that's a great attitude to have, by the way. I'm more for that. Okay, do as best you can in election integrity, then deal with what you have. Don't make excuses.

[Tomi Lahren]

Yeah. You know, none of us conservatives necessarily love California elections and their process, their mail in votes and their drop boxes and all this. I mean, they were the first in the country, I believe, to do it before everybody else started it. So I hate that. But Spencer understands that in the landscape that he's in, he has to push that and he has to make sure everyone's voting by any, you know, way that they prefer to do it. So he's smart in that. I also want to talk to his point that I think has been an underreported point in mainstream media on the dogs and the animals on skid row and the Shelter system and this. No, kill all this. I'm very invested in it. I work with a lot of the same people that Spencer does. And the animal abuse, the people feeding drugs to animals to test their drugs, breeding the dogs over and over and over again so they can get 300 bucks from another bum on the street. It's ridiculous. And the people in power right now turning a blind eye. A lot, a lot of animal lovers in Los Angeles. I know it seems like a niche issue, but I actually think that the animal lovers are going to show out. For Spencer Pratt, it could make a big difference.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So I know they're taking him serious. When I see Jimmy Kimmel try to rip him, you know, they're rolling out Letterman clips when Spencer Pratt was in his 20s and he was on a reality show. And then Jake tapper found this. Cut 22 with Alex Jones.

[Jake Tapper]

What about government sponsored terror?

[Sid Rosenberg]

What about 9 11?

[Jake Tapper]

What about governments staging terror attacks?

[Brian Kilmeade]

Is 911 an inside job from your research? Not from my research, but from your research. It 100% is because I can't even believe that it took me seeing your film to know about Bluey. How did that not hit the mainstream media? Right, so more of that crap. But this, that was 2007. So he was at 2009. So he was asked about it and here's what he said. Cut 23.

[Spencer Pratt]

The reality is people in charge fail us as taxpayers. And when you're listening that audio, that's a 21, 22 year old person. I'm now 42, unfortunately. You know, I was young and naive to understanding how there is people that will fail citizens across the board. And I would have to go back and look it up that I haven't watched any of those things in 20 years or whatever. But I bet now with my fresh eyes of surviving the city's negligence that burned 12 people in my neighborhood alive. 7,000 structures. Seeing how fast the Internet said that was a conspiracy and how I had to be like, no, this is how it happened. This, this and this. Now with new fresh eyes, I'm sure I would look at that a lot different.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So, I mean, that's how I know they're taking them seriously. But I have no patience for people who says 911 was an inside job. You're thinking thoughts.

[Tomi Lahren]

Well, here's the deal. Ask Karen Bass what she was doing when she was 21 or 22 years old. I don't think we're going to like the answer to that. You know, I watched the Hills. I watched Spencer proud on the Hills. I watched his wife Heidi on the Hills. I'm a millennial. I love that stuff. I still do. But this notion that, well, because he was on a reality show or because he might have said some controversial things when he was on a reality show or in his early 20s, that's nothing to do with the race he's running. First of all, he's not running to be President of the United States, where some of those statements would be perhaps a little bit more important. He's running to fix Los Angeles. And he keeps reiterating this over and over again. I'm not running on national politics. What I want to do is I want to clean up the homeless encampments, get the drug addicts off the street. I want to make your parks safe. I want to make sure your kids aren't tripping over needles when they do go to the park so that moms can push strollers and feel safe. And I want to make sure that the reservoirs have water so that when inevitably we have another wildfire, we have a way to put it it out or what he's running on. Like, he's not running on 9 11, he's not running on Iran. Like, that is his point. And that why, that's why for me, for Los Angeles, it's so important that they listen. He is the look around candidate. Look around. You don't like the way things are looking and how much you're paying for it, you're going to have to vote new. And your option is Spencer Pratt, because the other two, they're currently involved in destroying your city.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I just hope he wins and we start a trend of practical people running and trying to win in major city cities because we Republicans have basically thrown up their hands and said, I have no shot that could change things. I want you to hear Jimmy Kimmel going after him yesterday. Cut 27.

[Daniel Hoffman]

The difference between Donald Trump and this

[Brian Kilmeade]

guy is Donald Trump actually had a job before he was on a reality show.

[Daniel Hoffman]

This hole now has given birth to Spencer Pratt, who is running for mayor. Another narcissist looking for attention.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And I just.

[Daniel Hoffman]

Are we really going to risk repeating

[Brian Kilmeade]

that mistake we made with Trump in

[Jake Tapper]

LA of all places?

[Brian Kilmeade]

Mayor should not be your first job. So he's desperate, yet he goes to work every day on Hollywood Boulevard. He sees the decline before his eyes. That's one of the worst things that could happen to get a star in that Hollywood Boulevard because he's going to be mocked and defaced on a daily basis. He watched the movie industry leave this Guy just wants to come, come in and change things and fix things. Why do you think that Jimmy Kimmel takes, is, takes offense to that?

[Tomi Lahren]

Well, because Jimmy Kimmel. Well, there's a lot of reasons why Jimmy Kimmel is going to, he's going to take offense to anything that is remotely common sense in any way, shape or form related to conservative principles and ideas. But I would also say I don't recall, Brian, did Jimmy Kimmel have the same analysis of Mayor Zoran Mondo? Because to my knowledge, Zoran Mandani has never had a real job before. He was mayor of New York City, the financial capital of the world. So I wonder if Jimmy Kimmel was also making that same assessment with Mamdani. I didn't hear it. Maybe you did, Brian. But, you know, if not, it's a little rich that you're criticizing. Spencer Pratt, who, by the way, graduated from USC with a political science degree, is very intelligent and has clearly done his research on the issue, issues that matter to Los Angeles, and that's what this race should be about.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I love that comparison, by the way, because he had one summer camp job, was inconsequential, Congress, state, state assemblyman, and then he gets this job as mayor. So the market's now at 51,000 plus 415 points. And it looks like Donald Trump has said in a meeting in Situation Room that he's going to lift our blockade and they're going to lift their blockade of the street straight. And I assume not. The toll's got to go. We're starting to get information, but the market's responding positively and oil is already at $88 a barrel. So there's going to I know you're going to be talking about this for six hours over the weekend, but, but your thoughts about how this, how this is coming to fray and for people don't know, there's a mutual lifting of the blockades. Iran agrees not to pursue a nuclear weapon, weapon talks begin on uranium disposal. The US to discuss sanctions relief and frozen funds and discuss humanitarian aid and good for Iran and Israel and Hezbollah stopped fighting. So there's a lot of questions there. Your thoughts?

[Tomi Lahren]

Yeah, a lot of questions. All that sounds good and I'm always praying for that and I'm hopeful and I'm optimistic. I know this president's not going to enter into a bad deal, but can we trust Iran?

[Brian Kilmeade]

Nope.

[Tomi Lahren]

I feel like we've been down this road before, so I think if there's anybody who understands that, it's President Trump. But again, we're going to be talking about this all weekend on Big Weekend Show. All of this sounds good. I know the president's obviously facing some pressure due to the gas prices here and some of the discomfort that comes along with that. But I have faith that he's going to do what's right in the long term. That's what he's been saying over and over. He's not looking at the midterms. He's looking at national security and he's looking at the hopes of the world. So I'm optimistic. But, but the follow through is where things get a little sticky on that end.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Tomi Lahren, thanks so much. You're doing a great job over the weekend. Also, check out her show. She's host of Outkicks. Tomi Lahren is fearless and a FOX News contributor. You can listen to her and watch her on the Big Weekend show from five days, Saturdays and Sundays. Tommy, thanks so much. Great to see you almost.

[Tomi Lahren]

Thanks, Brian and I will. I'll see you on our shared weekend night.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Absolutely. Sunday night at 10 o'.

[Daniel Hoffman]

Clock.

[Brian Kilmeade]

One Night Nation, Tommy's second favorite show. Back in a moment.

From breaking news to big name guests, Brian brings you insight you won't hear anywhere else. You're listening to the Brian Kill Me Show. From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Kilmer Mead.

She thought he was having a stroke.

[Rebecca Heinrichs]

It's inexplicable why you wouldn't stop thing right then and go straight to a hospital. What's your, what's your take on what she's saying now?

[Brian Kilmeade]

Frankly, my take is that as I've gone up and down the state of Delaware in the last couple of days, nobody's asked me about Joe Biden's debate performance in 2024. They've asked me about the rising price of gas. They've asked me me about Trump's tariffs. They've asked me about insecurity and instability because of an unresolved war in Iran that is not going well. As someone who cares for President Biden, I too was concerned about what that several second pause meant, what was happening at the moment. But I was with President Biden earlier today and he's fine. I see regular incidents where President Trump falls asleep in meetings in the middle of the day. This is so sickening to me because this is Senator Chris Coons who is labeled as a moderate. And I fall into that trap too sometimes. He covered up more than anybody else outside the family for his failure because nobody saw more of Joe Biden than The guy that replaced him in the Senate than Chris Coons and he had would push back on everybody that said he's not ready to run. He of course can do four more years. Of course he's doing a great job. Of course he's tapped in. Of course he's sharp. So he lied. And then when it went over the edge said, well, when he clearly fell apart at the debate and he decided to bail out, then he said, okay, it's time to move on. And now he's saying, why are you bringing this up? Hey, Senator, I agree with you. If Martha MacCallum or Brian Kilmeade brought up out of nowhere Joe Biden's failures in the debate, you have every right to say what are you talking about? But it's the first former first lady that came out and is again skewing history. We all live through that. Even CNN is now free to report because they were too hostage to their ideology to be honest and care. Alex Thompson writes this book with Jake Tapper and that's why. And then people book you to say, wait a second, what are you going to say about him now And Donald Trump? Yeah. When you sleep four hours a day, sometimes you sit down too long, you're not off. You know how I know that? Cuz I do it. I get on a train sometimes at 3 o' clock. You could say you don't agree with me. Not many people say I have cognitive failure. Okay, nobody says that. You might say I never had cognitive success. You could set whatever, whatever I am Now, I was 10 years ago, 20 years ago. I tell you, I know he's 80, but Donald Trump works 20 hours a day, does not like to sleep, is up at 6 in the morning. I know directly he's up at 6 in the morning before Fox and Friends talk to him, sometimes in the middle of the show. And you also know that he calls people at 2 in the morning. I talked to the Secretary of Interior, said it's not unusual to get a call at 2 in the morning. So sometimes at 3 o' clock in the afternoon or 12 o' clock, you're in an hour meeting. It might not all. Yeah. Doesn't mean you're failing. It means maybe you need more sleep, but it doesn't mean you're failing. And the reason why I know that is because I have never, ever and we never will again have a president more accessible to more people. How many times does Axio say we found out directly? How many times does Kristen, welcome Meet the Press say, I just talked to the president. Here's where he reported. How many times did Jonathan Karl say that? Do you think ABC has been good to President Trump? He's so sued them. Do you think NBC has been good to President Trump? I think Kristen Welker's been reasonably fair. I really do think John Lee Karl does a good job too. But really think that he doesn't like Trump, doesn't think he should be president. Just my view. But he still calls him. He's interacting with him. If this guy was failing, losing his train of thought, doing things are unusual that he wasn't doing 20 years ago, they'd be reporting exclusively. But instead they enjoy access and therefore their viewers and listeners get more access. At some point you'll give him credit. But Chris Coons nice try. Another fail.

A talk show that's real. This is the the Brian Kilmeade Show.

Hey, we are back and let me just read you this truth social post from President Trump. Iran must agree that they will never have a nuclear weapon or bomb. The Strait of Hormuz must immediately open. No tolls for unrestricted shipping traffic. Just 43 minutes ago in both directions, all water mine bombs, if any will be terminated. We have removed through detonation numerous such mines in our great underwater minesweepers. Iran will complete the immediate removal and or detonation of any min mines which will not be many ships caught in the strait due to our amazing and unprecedented. Oh my God, is this long. There should be restrictions ships caught the strait to so he basically says no money will be exchanged until further notice. Other items as far less important have agreed to. I will be meeting now in the SITUATION ROOM to make final determinations. Thank for your attention to this matter. So they're meeting right now. Sid Rosenberg joins me now. Great friend of President Trump, host of Sid and friends. Great friend mine of mine. And he hosts the number one show in the morning in New York city. The number one city until the mayor finishes it off. 77 WABC Sid Rosenberg. Sid, welcome back.

[Sid Rosenberg]

I am thrilled to be here. It's great to see. You look very, very nice today. And you and I are actually, to be honest, you and I are even closer than me and Trump. And that's saying a lot. Really a lot. Well, I got to say that, yeah, I do have to say it.

[Brian Kilmeade]

But who has more power in the country than you know, then Trump? I mean I have to give it to him on that.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Oh, he's got the most power in the world, right? In the world. So but I got to we did not choose social, which is like, it's about the length of the elite of the Odyssey. He, he didn't really say anything that we haven't heard before. Maybe the tolls back and forth. That's kind of new. But look, it's the same three things that we want from Iran. They are not going to comply, I can promise you that on at least two of them. So the question is, how long do we kick the soccer ball down the road before we end this thing in some fashion.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And Sid is actually referring to the fact that in the break we're going to do, we're going to do in this break too. We were kicking the ball around. I'm getting you World cup crazy.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yes, you are.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And you're such a sports guy. You'll adapt to this quick and understand the trends and have your favorite guy. And I told you there's a two part series on HBO Max that will give you a fundamentals of the team where they've been the disappointment. But yet I, I forgot they tied England last year. The number one, number two team in the world.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yes, they did. One one, I believe, right? Yes.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And they outplayed him.

[Sid Rosenberg]

And I'm not really a big soccer guy. I'm not a soccer guy at all. At all. But I know you love it. And during the World cup because I'm a great patriot. Any opportunity to root for America, I do it. So I've been all over it this week. And don't forget one of my best friends like you is Andrew Giuliani. He's the point man for President Trump or FIFA. He comes on my show once every two or three weeks. We broke down even some of the players on this 26 man team. I'm ready to rock.

[Brian Kilmeade]

He's doing a great job. He really is. He's organizing the whole country. And we have, we have eight games right in our neighborhood. There's games in Kansas and there's games in Miami and games in Dallas. But I want to bring you to something more apropos news and sports. So Jackson Dart did this with you in attendance a couple weeks ago. I gotta start this off with a Go Big Blue. I'd love it if y' all will follow with me. Go Big Blue. Go Big Blue. Go Big Blue. Go Big Blue. Without further ado, I'm grateful, I'm honored, I'm pleasured to introduce the 45th and

[Daniel Hoffman]

47th President of the United States of America, President Donald J. Trump.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So the crowd went crazy and here's what Trump said after. Well, first of all, I wish I looked just like Jackson. This is a guy. I said, is he a male model or what? He's a handsome guy, like a beautiful guy and, you know, conservative guy. He said, I love you, sir. And I didn't know he was doing it, you know, but he's a, he's potentially a great quarterback. He's a young boy. Just he started, but when he's in a game, he moves the team. When Jackson gets harassed a little bit, he's also loved more because we have more people than they do. Cuz he likes Trump. If you look at his post, he likes Trump. Sid, you were there, he called you up and he had you talk. Did you think to yourself, this is gonna be a problem? When Dart Interrupted introduced President Trump, I knew right away.

[Sid Rosenberg]

It was a week ago today, Mike Lauder's event in the Hudson Valley, Rockland County, New York. I knew right away. I said, oh my God, they're gonna make a big deal about this, this. And, and they did. It was predictable. But you know, my friend Jason Whitlock, he does a really good podcast. He said it best. He said, wait a second, wait a second. Lawrence Taylor, he went out there for President Trump. Nobody said a word. Le'Veon Bell, he was out there for President Trump. But the white quarterback, the white quarterback out of Ole Miss, that becomes a big issue. And let me say this, the guy on the Giants who's got the big mouth, and I'm a Giant fan, I hosted the Giants pregame show on WFAN here in New York for four years. I'm close with the Giants. Abdul Carter, they took him in the first round two years ago out of Penn State. He did nothing for the football team last year. Nothing. Didn't make one big play. He opened his mouth all week long about this. So when the team had a meeting on Wednesday with Harbor and other players spoke to try to fix it, and the big problem was Abdul Carter, he did not even show up to the meeting. Gave some cockamamie excuse about some holiday and his family. Abdul Carter, you should be ashamed of yourself.

[Brian Kilmeade]

But I just, I can't believe the sentiment exists. I thought in 2016, 2017, I know Belichick got some blowback and Brady got some blowback. Got it. But now we're in 2026 and we're watching the team show up at the White House again. We see Saquon Barkley hanging out with the President.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Careful. Saquon Bartley hung up. But don't forget the Eagles, okay? Their quarterback, Jalen Hurts he didn't go. So you're seeing teams go to the White House, Brian, but they don't always go. Most of the time, it's about half the team.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Well, I know, but sometimes there's legitimate excuses.

[Sid Rosenberg]

No, there's not. So much of the United States, you got to be there. Come on.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Well, Brady didn't show up when the Patriots won.

[Sid Rosenberg]

He did have a legit when the president.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So Kevin Thibodeau pulled Giants quarterback Jackson Dart to the side to have a conversation about his introduction to Trump. Thibodeau reportedly broke down emotionally during the conversation. This is a president that got more of the African American vote than any. More than Romney, more than Bush, more than McCain, more than any other Republican president, more than Reagan. So this guy's. Thibodeau is crying. They're saying he was crying.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah. And look, you know, the proof is in the pudding in terms of athletes that still love this guy. Besides Jackson Dart. The New York Knicks were in New York City. Folks, we're about 10 blocks away from the house that Walt Clyde Frazier built. Or Patrick Ewing, whatever you want. We're about to play the NBA Finals. We'll play. Find out tomorrow if it's San Antonio. Oklahoma City. Likely Oklahoma City. It all starts Wednesday night. But their two biggest stars, Jalen Brunson and Towns, Carl Anthony Towns, the two biggest stars, they were the ones this week. They were the ones who actually came up with the idea with the rest of the team. Hey, let's have President Trump at our game. And now President Trump has said, I'm probably going to come. That was not some white journalist. It wasn't some Democrat. It wasn't some. It was Jalen Brunson and Carl Anthony Townsend who said, we want the president here.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I did not. Seriously, I had no idea. Yeah, I thought you were gonna say the opposite, because we know Jim Dolan likes president.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Oh, he loves Jim Dolan, too. Trump loves him.

[Brian Kilmeade]

You know what the president said? Madison Square Garden stays at Penn Station. Do you know what they were saying before that? We're gonna pull that out of Penn Station and redo it. So that's another thing. So that bothers me a lot. So I want everyone listening right now, black, white, and in between, to a certain introduction to the greatest giant ever, the greatest linebacker ever, someone worse worshiped by everyone that plays the sport and watches. Lawrence Taylor introducing President Trump.

[Sid Rosenberg]

I just want to say I grew

[Brian Kilmeade]

up a Democrat, and I've always been

a Democrat until I met this man right here. I'll tell you what

[Sid Rosenberg]

he will not have to worry about nobody in my

[Brian Kilmeade]

family ever vote for a Democrat again.

[Chad Bronstein]

Okay.

[Sid Rosenberg]

How great was that? Now, that was at Wildwood. You folks that forgot 150,000 strong showed up in New Jersey that day. And it wasn't just Lawrence.

[Brian Kilmeade]

It was freezing, too, wasn't it?

[Sid Rosenberg]

No, it was a nice day that day. I believe it wasn't just Lawrence. It does sound better. Was the Super Bowl 25 MVP when the Giants beat the Bills. Otis. Don't call me O.J. anderson.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Right next to him.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Right next to him. So you had Taylor and Anderson Anderson out there in Wildwood, New Jersey, for the president and everybody loved it.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Do you Remind me, is O.J. anderson black and is Lawrence Taylor black?

[Sid Rosenberg]

Last I checked, they're even darker than me.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Right. And by the way, if you haven't seen Sid of, you should watch in the feed, Sid's tan. Right. That's all. And by the way, so this is what I hope is. Remember Drew Brees cried.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yes, I do.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Because he said, I'm not going to kneel during the national anthem.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I'm not going to disrespect that or say kneel. And then he cried and apologized, which was insane.

[Sid Rosenberg]

While his teammates made him do it. He said, my grandfather fought in the war. I'm not going to apologize. But his teammates made him do it.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So I just hope Jackson Dart didn't apologize. Me, too, because he's got to lead this team.

[Sid Rosenberg]

I agree.

[Brian Kilmeade]

By the way, who I voted for, I'm going to throw. I'm going to throw. People that voted for Kamala Harris, if you're open and I'm going to give it to the ball. If you're a running back and you can get some yards, I don't care if you vote for Bernie Sanders.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Right.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I'm standing. It caught me totally by surprise. But you said you knew about it in the audience.

[Sid Rosenberg]

I knew right away. And Abdul Carter. My guess is, by the way, the

[Brian Kilmeade]

Giants said, do it. The Giants said, do it.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Of course they did. The White House and President Trump, I believe, got permission from the Giants first. They're the ones who contacted Jackson Dart. It was the Giants. It wasn't Mike Lawler or Rockland County. It was President Trump and the White House and he got permission.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So a couple of things come to mind. By the way, I guess I say a couple of things a lot, as Pete. Have you pointed that out before? I guess evidently they found I have a little bit of a trend of saying that. So a couple things come to mind.

[Sid Rosenberg]

And you said it again.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I know. And by the way, it seems unmatched and by the way, so it seems kind of natural to think this is that if you look at LeBron James, he introduced Hillary Clinton, he had a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton. Stephon Curry, how many black players and white players love Barack Obama? I don't think anything about that. President of the United States States, Elvis went to visit Richard Nixon.

[Sid Rosenberg]

He did do that. Yes. No, I know it's gotten to the point where it's silly, but just so you folks know, this is another example of Trump Derangement syndrome. It's a real disease, it's a real illness. There's no cure. And unfortunately it's alive and well in America today.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And I just have this. I'm not going to speak for the coach. I know John Harbaugh really likes Trump. And do you know when he was available, Trump put on Truth Social, the just go hire this guy. So if he likes Donald Trump, is he gonna alienate the locker room if Harbaugh goes to the White House?

[Sid Rosenberg]

Well, if they win, he'll go to the White House. Don't forget, President Trump had John and his brother Jim, who's the head coach of the Los Angeles Chargers right now. The brother combination at the White House together. If the Giants win the Super Bowl, John Harbaugh will be at the White House and people are not going to care. But right now, he hasn't won a game yet for the Giants. They'll take him to task.

[Chad Bronstein]

All right.

[Brian Kilmeade]

By the way, I predict 11 win wins.

[Sid Rosenberg]

11.

[Brian Kilmeade]

11 wins.

[Sid Rosenberg]

11 and 6. That'll make the playoffs, I think. You ready for this? This is going to sound crazy. They've been bad for so many years. Not just 11 wins. They unseat the Philadelphia Eagles. The Giants win the NFC East.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Interesting. And here's what plays to that. I think the Eagles are going to snap away from snapping. That team is on tenderhooks. They are ready to their coaches on the edge. Everybody's on the edge. What about the quarterback? If Saquon starts struggling again like he did last year, in trouble, we're going to take a short time out and come back because you're going to the Israeli Day parade. The. The police commissioner is the. Is the grand marshal of the. Of the Israeli Day parade. When we come back, the precedent setting mayor is not going. We'll talk about it.

Illuminating, intriguing, inculcating.

I know some of these words.

It's Brian Kilmeade, A radio show like no other. It's Brian Kilmeade I said on the

campaign trail that I wouldn't be attending the parade. And I've made my views on the Israeli government abundantly clear. And I also said on that same campaign that I would have a responsibility as the mayor of the city to ensure the safety and security of each and every New Yorker. And I don't believe that my presence as the mayor should determine whether or not a New Yorker is safe or secure. Well, number one, no one asked you about safety. Number two, just go and do it. So that is the mayor of New York City not going. Formatting and underlying the fact that most people think he's anti Semitic. Sid Rosenberg, your thoughts about him not showing up on Sunday?

[Sid Rosenberg]

He's a disgrace. He's an anti Semite. His father is an anti Semite. His vile, wretched wife is an anti Semite. She's disgusting. He's a disgrace. And he can't use Israel or Bibi as an excuse. Because if this parade was in Tel Aviv, for example. Okay, don't go. If it was in Jerusalem, don't go. It's in New York City. Last I checked, he won this election in New York City. And there may be some Jews, as horrible as it sounds, who actually voted for this clown at this parade on Sunday. It's a New York City event. You're the mayor of New York City. It's not in Hyper. It's not in Natania. He should be there on Sunday. But as a proud Jew who marches every year, including this Sunday. Sunday, I don't want him there.

[Brian Kilmeade]

You don't want them there, so you're kind of glad.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Oh, God.

[Brian Kilmeade]

But it's not right.

[Sid Rosenberg]

It's not right. He should be there. His excuse is terrible. Again, it's not an Israeli parade, it's a New York parade. But as a proud Jew, I don't want this lying son of a gun there.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Right. So thank you for editing yourself.

[Sid Rosenberg]

I did. Because on my radio show actually curse.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Right. I understand, but it drives. Would drive Eric crazy hard way for him to end this week.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Eric. Right.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I mean, you got to be quick. So Jamie Dimon was asked about his meeting with Mandami cut 49. I think good policy is free. I feel like telling the politicians, don't try to raise more taxes or spend more money. Sit down and fix policy. And I think you grow 1% faster. I literally believe that. And you. The public knows you can't get certificates of occupancy. You can't get roads built. The bridges, well, that's like the Bolts. The Baltimore Bridge was supposed to be built by now is another five. I go on and on.

[Rebecca Heinrichs]

You've been talking about this for so long.

[Brian Kilmeade]

It's frustrating, it hurts, it's embarrassing. And it always hurts the civilians of our country. And so. So I had a great meeting with Madame. Meaning it was pleasant, you know, but I said everything I want to say. Read between the lines.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Well, I don't trust Jamie Dimon. He's the same guy that's been saying for weeks and weeks that we're heading towards a recession because of Iran. And I personally listen to guys like Larry Kudlow when it comes to that type of stuff. And I appreciate billionaires like Ken Griffin or John Katzman, titties. Even Bill Ackman, who annoys me too. I find him more likable than Jamie Dimon. But reading between the lines, he wants to like mom Donnie. When Mamdani won, Jamie was the first to kind of send out the olive branch. Way too quick for me. Way too quick the next day.

[Brian Kilmeade]

But.

[Sid Rosenberg]

But he is still frustrated. He's still angry. So he had a wonderful meeting. Everybody says that Trump says that about mom Donnie. Katsimatiti says that about Mamdani.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Why?

[Sid Rosenberg]

Because in the end, they want it to work out. These billionaires, these millionaires, they deserve to be looked as inspirational figures, right? Not convicts. I want to be Katzamatitis. I want to be Jamie Dimon instead. Dismayor makes him look badly. So they want it to work out. But you can tell the frustration in Jamie Dimon's voice.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Can I just say that when Jamie Dimon came in a month ago to Fox and Friends, he. I don't know if it was here or whether it was. He came into the radio show too. He did say he's support Iran had to be done. So I do think that he's like, don't worry about it. Hold tight. He was very positive. Maybe, maybe, maybe it's because the platform he was on, but he was much more positive.

[Sid Rosenberg]

He may have been on cnbc, I don't know. But you know me personally, I don't get invited anymore. I used to get invited on the CNNs of the world. I never changed my stance for the audience. I don't care. I like them to love me or hate me. I'll never change my stance.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Right, understood. But why would they invite Arthur Idella? Very similar stance as you. They invite him on to be frictional.

[Sid Rosenberg]

No, he's not a similar stance as me. I mean, Arthur Idalla, don't forget he's Friendly with Pilda Block, Blasio. You wouldn't catch me dead. And Arthur Idol is one of my best friends. My daughter Ava, I'm so proud of her. She works for Arthur Idalla. She's going back to take her her law degree. So I love Arthur, him and Joe Tacopino, two of my best friends. But he is much to the left that I am, much more to the left.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So you consider yourself who is similar

[Sid Rosenberg]

to you to me? President Trump. That's better. Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, you know, all the big stars that I enjoy at Fox News, Ingram, Maria. Those are the people that are closer to me than Arthur Idalla. Right. Dollar will go on CNN and he'll say nice things about Eric Adams and Bill de Blasio. You'll never hear me do that, not in a million years.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So how did you. How do you feel about Governor Cuomo as a. Now he's out. He's being very critical of, very critical of Joe Biden now. How do you feel he would have been a better choice?

[Sid Rosenberg]

I don't know, to be honest. Andrew Cuomo destroyed this state. When I see him, I'm nice to him. You know, he was on my show quite a bit, if you remember. Curtis Sleever dropped me like a bad habit. Caused me a backstabber and a sellout because I started bringing Cuomo on because I wanted Cuomo rather than Mamdani, not because Cuomo was good. He destroyed this.

[Brian Kilmeade]

He did.

[Sid Rosenberg]

And we're still paying the price.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And the nuclear. We have no nuclear energy. Our utility bills, 0.

[Sid Rosenberg]

0.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And then the ridiculous, the green policies he put us, even Governor Hochul can't have.

[Sid Rosenberg]

And bail reform. He did that. And all of it. Congestion pricing was his idea as well. Well, so he destroyed the state. I'm not sure it'd be any better, but at this point, anybody better than Mum Donnie.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So don't forget, check out Westbury Music Fair, where I'm gonna have history at the United in the States tour will be there. Sid's gonna be there reenacting skits. Go to briankillme.com and Sunday at 10pm Amongst my great, great roster of guests, Sid Rosenberg on One Nation on Fox.