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Jeffrey
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Brooke
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Alexa
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Brooke
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Brooke
Back to back classics today. Thank you for being here. It's the Brooke and Jeffrey podcast. And listen, uh. Oh, I hope you were decorating your house for Christmas this Saturday.
Jeffrey
Oh, yeah.
Brooke
Or for the holidays. Whatever you celebrate.
Alexa
If it's not already decorated. Yeah.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Come on.
Sophie Cunningham
Late to the game.
Brooke
Oh, that was my plan. I got Christmas trees last weekend.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
We put stuff up in November.
Alexa
Dude, actually, you're maybe the last person I know who doesn't have decorations up.
Brooke
Okay. Didn't know that this was gonna turn into that.
Jeffrey
It was.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
And actually it was.
Brooke
This was gonna start before you mentioned it.
Jeffrey
Cause Tommy commented.
Brooke
Brooke, how are you?
Sophie Cunningham
I love the show.
Brooke
Have you decorated for Christmas yet?
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
No way.
Brooke
That was a fun comment.
Sophie Cunningham
Yes.
Brooke
Listen, I'm not as good as you guys. Apparen. Well, she did not. I. I am though. Okay, It'll be done by Monday.
Alexa
We had our Christmas tree up on Thanksgiving dinner.
Brooke
I'm surprised you ever took it down.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Yeah.
Brooke
All right, here we go. Your back to back classics start right now.
Jeffrey
I feel like now most couples meet through dating apps.
Brooke
Oh, yeah.
Jeffrey
Social media. Or by calling the phone number somebody carved into the bathroom mirror in the truck stop off Highway 7, exit 51.
Brooke
Really?
Alexa
Ever led to a relationship?
Brooke
Well.
What you consider relationship.
Jeffrey
Don't ask how I know that. I just do.
Alexa
Yeah, that's the next question.
Jeffrey
But one of our listeners says she recently met a guy the old fashioned way. By saving his life.
Brooke
What? Saving his life.
Jeffrey
That's how people used to do it back in the 1300s. And it's finally coming back.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Okay, how did she do it?
Jeffrey
And afterwards, why won't he hang out with her? Oh, you're gonna find out what happened in a second date update. Next. Second date update. You know, a wise producer once told me, out of crisis comes opportunity.
Brooke
Okay, and then that's good.
Jeffrey
That producer got fired from the show.
Brooke
But it's the one that.
Jeffrey
Yeah, now see, he had the opportunity at that point to go off and enjoy a wonderful, stress free life without us. Without us in it at all.
Alexa
What an opportunity.
Jeffrey
But he didn't take that opportunity because we rehi back onto the show.
Brooke
Yeah, it was a battle.
Jeffrey
Yeah, it was a bad choice on his part.
Brooke
He actually made the dumbest decision of us all.
Jeffrey
He should have taken his own advice.
Brooke
But we need him.
Alexa
Well, I don't know. He's an idiot.
Jeffrey
I don't know. Not a big fan of that guy. But one of our listeners did have an opportunity come out of crisis, and she actually seized the moment.
Brooke
Okay.
Jeffrey
Made it into something good. Her name is Kelly, and she's asked us for help today. Kelly, how you doing?
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Hi. Hi, guys. Thank you so much.
Brooke
Oh, my gosh. I can't wait to hear. I mean, I guess I shouldn't say I can't wait to hear about your crisis, but usually crisis means something bad happened.
Jeffrey
Yeah. What happened?
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
So I met this guy who happens to be in my apartment building.
Brooke
Hiding in the closet.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
No, no. Like, nothing weird like that. No. I was just at home, but suddenly smelled smoke. And it was weird because, you know, like, you think, is there a fire? But there was no alarm going off.
Brooke
And then you're like, am I having a stroke? Is that just somebody else's next? Oh, that's what it is.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Alexa
That's just a rumor, but that's what.
Jeffrey
People over 50 tend to think. So I get what I heard.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
That.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
I've never heard of that. Yeah. Well, so I smelled the smoke and just decided to follow it because I knew. I'm like, okay, I'm not imagining it.
Jeffrey
Run towards the fire. That's what they teach you in fire.
Brooke
Class, to figure out if something's actually on fire. That's really scary to call the firefighters.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
So I did notice that one of my neighbors, the door was closed, but there was smoke coming out of it.
Jeffrey
Oh, my God.
Alexa
Okay, I have to ask.
Brooke
God, that's so scary.
Alexa
Did it smell like fire smoke? Or was somebody like, hot box in their apartment?
Brooke
Because very different.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Oh, no, it was smoke. It wasn't like, the same floor.
Brooke
Snoop Dogg. That would be.
Jeffrey
It's interesting where everybody's minds on this show goes, because I would have still.
Alexa
Approached, but I would have been like, yo, share. You know what I mean?
Brooke
No, I'm like, it was scary.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
I was scared because it was clearly coming out from under this door.
Alexa
Oh, my God.
Brooke
What'd you do?
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Yeah, I just started banging like crazy on the door to see if anyone was inside. This guy opens the door.
Brooke
Oh, someone was in there.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Yeah. He was wearing an apron. And I asked him, is everything okay? And he completely apologized and explained that he was attempting to cook a turkey for the first time in his life.
Alexa
Once you said apron, I was like, oh, this is just bad luck.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Well, I felt bad for him because I'm a good cook, actually. So I'm like, you need help? And I went inside.
Alexa
Oh, you look so nice.
Brooke
Oh, you still rescued him.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Yeah, well, he was very cute, so it was easy.
Brooke
He rescued you and, like a cooking angel.
Jeffrey
And what's his name?
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Brad.
Jeffrey
Okay, okay.
Brooke
And had you met Brad prior to this?
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
I mean, I had seen parts of him, you know, up and down the elevator, but I hadn't, like, formally ever introduced.
Brooke
So he's just so desperate for anybody to help him cook whatever he's trying to cook that he's like, yeah, sure, come in.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Yeah, he welcomed it. He was freaking out because he had invited his boss and a couple of co workers over for dinner that night.
So that wouldn't have gone well. So I ended up. I was there for, like, two hours, and.
Brooke
Oh, wow.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
I helped him prep a really good meal. I couldn't salvage the turkey, but definitely some flirting going on.
Jeffrey
There was. Okay.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Yes. And I definitely left before his boss got there. Like, I wasn't gonna cross boundaries or whatever. And he. He was just so thankful. And he kept saying, I owe you, and he said he wanted to take me out for dinner.
Brooke
Oh, okay. And you didn't see any, like, hints in his apartment of other women or anything? Like, he seems single.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Beyond single.
Jeffrey
Anytime you have a guy who has smoke billowing out from underneath their door, it's a good sign that they're probably single.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Yeah, that's good reasoning. I like that.
Alexa
Okay, I agree with that.
Jeffrey
So it sounds like he asked you out and has that happened, or.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Well, no, because I haven't heard from him. I texted him a couple of days later. I wanted to give him his face, and I asked how dinner went, but he has not responded. I just. I feel like he's avoiding me. But now I'm, like, kind of freaking out because I'm wondering if the meal went really badly.
Brooke
I didn't even think about that.
Jeffrey
Like, maybe you're not as good of a cook as you think you are.
Brooke
Or the boss came over and got food poisoning.
Alexa
Or he's like, burnt turkey is my favorite meal. Why would you throw that away?
Brooke
Dude, that's wild. Have you seen him on your floor or in the elevator or anything since he lives there?
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
It's back to the way I would see him before. Just, like, glimpses, like, the back of his hair.
Brooke
Oh.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
You know, like in the.
Jeffrey
Maybe it's not a bad thing. Maybe the cooking was so good that his boss fell in love with him, and now they're in a relationship.
Alexa
Oh, cute.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Thank you for that. Yeah, I'm.
Jeffrey
I'm pulling for you here, Kelly. So we're Gonna play a song, we'll come back, we'll call Brad and try and get you your second date update right after this.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
All right, thank you.
Jeffrey
Hold on. Second date update?
Today's second date update Sounds kind of like the start of a Hallmark movie. You know, the hunky single bachelor has the big boss coming over for dinner, but he can't cook a turkey.
Sophie Cunningham
Aw.
Jeffrey
Time is running out. When who swoops in to save the day? His cute female neighbor from down the hall, who also happens to be single.
Sophie Cunningham
Jeb.
Brooke
I thought it was cute. Now it sounds cliche.
Alexa
I love it.
Jeffrey
It's super cliche. She offers to help and not only teaches him lessons in the kitchen, but also lessons in love. Coming this holiday season, it's the Christmas wishbone. Oh, and Kelly, when this eventually makes its way to Hollywood, which actor is going to play your date? Brad?
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Oh, I would say Zac Efron.
Brooke
Oh, Zac Efron.
Alexa
Does he look like Zac Efron?
Brooke
I think Zac Efron's doing your type.
Sophie Cunningham
Of movies these days.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Yeah, well, Zac Efron from, like, back, you know.
Jeffrey
Underage Zac Efron, even.
Brooke
I'm with you there.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
What?
Jeffrey
Have a teenager play your.
Brooke
Yes.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
High school musical.
Brooke
Troy Bolton, baby.
Jeffrey
All right, well, you and Alexa romantic. Now we made it weird. All right, well, we're gonna call Brad, who is of age, right?
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
I would say he's, like, in his late 20s.
Jeffrey
Okay. Okay.
Brooke
You know, hopefully it's nothing too big since you guys do live on the same floor.
I mean, honestly, you have. We have to be careful with this because it is gonna end up really awkward.
Jeffrey
I hope it does, actually, for the sake of the entertainment, but.
Alexa
Yeah, that's.
Jeffrey
But he's right. For your sake, Kelly, I hope that there's a totally logical explanation. We're gonna find out right now.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Thank you, guys.
Jeffrey
Okay, let's call Brad and see what he has to say. Here we go.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Okay.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
Hello?
Jeffrey
Hey, is this Brad?
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
Yep. Who's this?
Jeffrey
He is hunky sounding.
Brooke
I would agree with that.
Jeffrey
Brad. Hey, you're on the radio right now with Brooke and Jeffrey in the.
Alexa
Yo. Good morning.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
Wait, the radio? Why?
Brooke
Yeah, it's fun.
Jeffrey
That's a word. We do a segment on our show called the Second date Update, and we're trying to help one of our listeners named Kelly get back in touch with you.
Brooke
I mean, technically, you guys didn't really go out on a date. It was more like an emergency, but.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
Oh, okay. Yes, Kelly.
Jeffrey
Yeah, we heard you had some cooking problems, and Kelly stepped in to help you out, save the day.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
Yeah, that's true.
Brooke
Did you like Kelly?
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Yeah.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
I mean, sure.
Sophie Cunningham
Uh.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
Oh, here's the thing. I don't know if I could hang out with Kelly really, outside of, like, a crisis situation, to be honest.
Brooke
Oh, are you in a relationship or something?
Alexa
I've never heard that we can only hang out during a murder.
Brooke
No, but, like, she thought that you were saying single.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
Yeah, I'm single. I'm single. Yeah, that's not it.
Jeffrey
Okay, good. Well, Kelly's a little bit confused after you guys hung out and she helped you cook because she says I've been kind of avoiding her texts and not talking to her. When you guys see each other in the apartment, is that accurate?
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
I mean, look, it was nice that she helped me. You know, my boss really liked the dinner and.
Brooke
Oh, good.
Jeffrey
That was one of the things that we were talking about. She was worried maybe the meal didn't turn out good.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
Nothing like that. Now, I don't know really how to explain.
Brooke
Are you just maybe not attracted to her?
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
No, no. She's a cute girl. But it was like. Like, you know, when we were cooking, it was like cooking with Gordon Ramsay.
I had a high stress situation. You know, I was freaking out. I'd burnt my dinner. My boss was coming over and.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Yeah, are you butt hurt? Seriously?
Jeffrey
Whoa.
Alexa
What the heck?
Brooke
Wait, he was just explaining. We don't even know what he's saying.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Gordon Ramsay. I don think so.
Alexa
Oh, sounds like immediately.
Jeffrey
Yes, though, sorry.
We'Re supposed to tell you Kelly's on the other line listening and.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
Are you kidding me?
Jeffrey
No, I'm not.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
I am not pleased, Brad.
Jeffrey
Kelly, hold on. We didn't even get the full explanation of what happened.
Brooke
I thought he was saying, Gordon Ramsay, like, you're a really good cook.
Alexa
Yeah, like a top notch.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
No, more like cooking with Gordon Ramsay when he's screaming at you. It was the most stressful situation. And then that was insult to injury. I mean, let me tell you, like, at one point, she asked me for a chef's knife. I give her a knife, and she goes, no, that's a butcher's knife, you dummy. I was floored.
Jeffrey
That's kind of cute banter.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
I mean, it yells at people that are bad.
Alexa
So she's saying, you deserve it.
Brooke
Was she trying to be playful? And it came off wrong, Kelly.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
I think I was being very playful and very flirtatious. It just, you know, there was a shock level for me that I needed to digest. I mean.
He didn't even know what a bullion cube was okay.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
I've never heard of that in my life. Let's be honest. Like, I'm not, like, a kitchen guy. Like, I'm not watching the Food Network all the time, you know? You expect me to know what a bullion cube is, and I don't. It's not like, something really to make fun of me about, I guess.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
I wasn't making fun of. I was just in shock. Like, my jaw was, like, literally on the floor. I mean, you didn' even have an immersion blender.
Alexa
That's so fancy.
Jeffrey
I don't think a lot of single guys have immersion.
Brooke
I'm going to tell you, an immersion blender will change your kitchen experience.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Men don't even have silverware. Exactly.
Jeffrey
Kelly, I think you're expecting a lot of him.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
Yeah. Thank you. I glad somebody.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
I was just in shock, and I flirtatiously informed him of my shock, but I didn't.
Jeffrey
I see. They were flirty threats.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
I don't know the way they came out.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Something to say to you. She's not done.
Brooke
Yeah. What? Kelly, what do you have to say to him?
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
You obviously have no.
Brooke
I'm sorry if I insulted you.
Jeffrey
I was expecting a sweet moment.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
All right, so you see what I'm saying here?
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Why did you say that, Kelly?
Jeffrey
Yeah, it's a little harsh.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Someone with a would say to my face, hey, you know what? You're being a little harsh with me, Brad. You never informed me of that. Oh, you were very flirtatious with me, and I saved the day. You needed me.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
Okay, I mean, I get all that, but you called me a stupid.
Jeffrey
What?
Alexa
There's Gordon Ramsay.
Jeffrey
I don't know. I've heard Brooke says that to her husband all the time in a flirtatious way.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
I was saying it in a very flirtatious way.
How?
Brooke
How did you say that in a flirty way?
Alexa
Get over here, you.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
It was a wink.
Jeffrey
Oh, she winked when she said it.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Okay, why does that make it scarier for me?
Brooke
I mean, Kelly, can you hear that? Maybe you're not the most approachable when it comes.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Can you hear your stupid, annoying voice asking me that question? Do you hear yourself? And I am not winking. There is no winking my voice right now.
Jeffrey
I gotta say, I'm on Kelly's side with this one. That was a really stupid question.
Alexa
Brooke can't hear herself. She's wearing headphones.
Jeffrey
Yeah, I know.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Hi.
Brooke
Why are you so scary?
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
See what I'm talking about, guys? Once the time was counting down, she totally transformed and just went after Me.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
You know, Brad, go yourself. My house. I called, not you. You don't have the to speak frankly. You don't have the prerogative to speak. You. Oh my God.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
Again?
Brooke
What is going on?
Jeffrey
The sparks in the romance are flying.
Alexa
Just like Gordon Ramsay.
Brooke
Is this the flirty that she was talking about? Is this it? Brat.
Jeffrey
I'm scared to tell her that we only have a minute left before we have to go to a song.
Brooke
So do you ask Brad at this point?
Jeffrey
Yeah. Hey, stupid mother. Would you like to go out with this lady one more time?
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
I think I'm better off now.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Try again, Brad. Wrong answer.
Brooke
Sounds like you'd have a charming evening.
Jeffrey
Maybe it would help if you guys weren't cooking together. If you're doing something else.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
I just only imagine the car ride over to the restaurant. I mean, if I was driving, that would sure be interesting.
Jeffrey
I said take a left here, you idiots.
Alexa
That's a parking.
Sophie Cunningham
Exactly.
Jeffrey
That's a comedy compact space. This is a large vehicle. What are you doing? I don't know. I guess it's not in the stars for you two.
Brooke
I think I would have thrown myself out of the car if I was in there.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
We would drive separately.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Brooke
Good choice. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Sophie Cunningham
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Jeffrey
You know, I've learned from Brooke that if a man ever gets yelled at by a woman, then, quote, he probably.
Brooke
Deserves that is not true.
Jeffrey
That is just. It's a general rule of thumb.
Brooke
But people start to believe this stuff about me.
Jeffrey
Jeffrey, look, I'm gonna be honest here. I don't think that was the case this time. Time and Brooke might even agree with me.
Brooke
That's not the case most of the time.
Jeffrey
Oh, yeah. Interesting.
Brooke
Okay, it just depends on the circumstance.
Sophie Cunningham
Okay.
Jeffrey
Wow. The opinions really change depending on the sentence I just said.
Alexa
Yelling at Jeff.
Jeffrey
So she really did go. She went from zero to a hundred as soon as she heard Gordon Ramsay. We barely even heard him talk.
Brooke
I just never understand how you can be that unself aware. Like you don't realize you're doing it, I guess. And then when somebody calls you out.
Sophie Cunningham
Then you go even harder into it.
Jeffrey
Yeah. Self awareness is an interesting thing, isn't it, Brooke?
Brooke
Yeah, it is, Jeffrey.
Alexa
You guys are both having realizations.
Brooke
I think he's trying to make fun of me, but I'm not falling for it, okay? Not this time.
Jeffrey
I think we all can learn a lot from the second date update. And the most important lesson you can learn is that we can try and help you out if you ever need help in your dating life and just.
Brooke
Be nice to people or just. We'll take the abuse for you.
Alexa
Yeah, there's the real.
Jeffrey
And you can do that by emailing the show. Because we'll call the person who isn't calling you back.
Brooke
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Jeffrey
This is crazy to say, but Brooke, Jose and I have all worked together for well over a decade.
Brooke
Oh my God, it has been so long.
Alexa
My 12 years is coming up and you guys work even longer.
Brooke
I'm at 23, I think.
Jeffrey
I mean, it's a long time. We've attended weddings together, gone to parties, done crossover, cross country trips. But one very strange fact that is true is none of us, not one, has ever actually been to Brooke's house before.
Alexa
Seriously? Never been invited, never been allowed? Only in public.
Jeffrey
I've always wondered why. What is she hiding in there that she doesn't want us to see?
Alexa
She thinks we're just gonna stop by or something unannounced?
Jeffrey
Are the walls inside made of gold bricks?
Alexa
We're gonna see how much money she's worth.
Jeffrey
Or more likely, does she have 20 orphans in her basement who sew all of her clothes for her?
Brooke
I swear it's a rental service I use.
Alexa
Oh no, a rent an orphan.
Jeffrey
That's pretty nice. I wonder.
Alexa
Her clothes are so goofy looking.
Jeffrey
We may never know the truth, but one of our listeners says she was pretty shocked when her date told her about the strange thing in his his home. And he even had to bring out pictures to prove he wasn't joking. It weirded all of us out, even Brooke. And you're gonna hear what it was in your second date update. Next. Second date update. I know Brooke has said multiple times, almost suspiciously, that she's not on any dating apps.
Alexa
Yeah, she always brings it up.
Jeffrey
Dude. Hey, Brooke, what are you doing over there? Not swiping on random men online. That.
Brooke
That's for sure, teeny ds. I think.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
See, she's doubling down. What do you want me to say?
Jeffrey
We're all going to believe her on this, but let's say Brooke was on the app.
Sophie Cunningham
Okay?
Jeffrey
What would her profile say?
Alexa
Oh, my God.
Jeffrey
Probably give me your name, phone number, and how many Cheetos you can fit in your mouth.
Awkwardly after phone number so nobody would understand the Cheeto joke.
Brooke
And are those puffs, buffs or the classics?
Jeffrey
Yeah, not sure what that means.
Alexa
I come from a clown family. Ask me more.
Brooke
It's a magician. Okay, don't ask about help.
Jeffrey
I'll tell you, bottom line, it would probably be a total disaster. But what about the rest of the normal people out there? What's on their dating profiles? Let's find out. And talk to Elena, who emailed the show for help.
Alexa
Okay?
Jeffrey
Welcome to the chaos.
Brooke
Hey, Elena.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Hey, everyone.
Brooke
How are you? Elena would swipe right on me.
Jeffrey
Right, Elena?
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Totally.
Jeffrey
Yes.
Alexa
Way to be nice, Elena.
Jeffrey
You into the ladies or the guys?
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Well, right now we're talking about Trey.
Jeffrey
Okay, and what does Trey have on his dating profile that stuck out to you?
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
You know what? A couple things. I mean, one, physically beautiful eyes, gorgeous smile. I mean, just typical, like, drop dead.
Brooke
And then an average of 10 cheetos. Right.
Jeffrey
Frito Lay Obsession.
Alexa
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Okay, so he's a beautiful man.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Yeah. And what did stick out was he loved adventures. He, like, wants to fill his time with his hobbies of adventures.
Brooke
What does that mean? That's so vague. Like, is he specific on that?
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Well, he liked biking. I mean, just lots of, like, outdoorsy stuff.
Brooke
Okay, okay.
Jeffrey
Adventures makes it sound like he likes to get out and travel and see new things.
Brooke
Yeah, Rock climb. That's what I think of.
Jeffrey
I mean, that's a really nice thing to say in your profile, even if it isn't true.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeffrey
So did you. Did you meet up with him?
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
We did. We got some drinks, and right when he walked in, he looked so much smaller in person. Like, his pictures. Yeah. Made him look just a Little bit more.
Jeffrey
Like, are you talking height wise? Are you talking size?
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Like everything.
Brooke
Everything is small.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
Yeah.
Jeffrey
And from your voice, it sounds like you were disappointed in how he looked physically. Is that true?
Brooke
Usually smaller on a guy isn't exciting.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Yeah, no.
Jeffrey
Well, yeah.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Girls.
Jeffrey
Not about the size, about how you use it.
Alexa
A girl's obsessive.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Yeah, I wasn't. He said everything.
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Jeffrey
Smaller.
Brooke
It's just a difference.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Okay, so I did bring it up. I was like, you know what, I'm kind of surprised. Like in your photos, you look just a little bit more.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
Wow.
Brooke
What?
Jeffrey
That is bold.
Brooke
What did he say?
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Well, I wasn't mean about it, guys.
Brooke
I don't know. But also, if he's a catfish, he.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Should get called out.
Sophie Cunningham
I mean.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
There'S so much craziness online. But he was laughing about it. He says, actually, I'm on a health kick. And I was like, oh, really? What kind of health kick are you on? And he's like, it's a huge health kick. So I've definitely lost like £30 recently. I was like, oh, okay.
Brooke
And you're like, you didn't need to. I liked you when you were bulky.
Jeffrey
Yeah, I didn't know.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
That's what I was thinking.
Jeffrey
I didn't know you could shrink from that stuff too, like, height wise. But.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Well, I couldn't see his height, but you know what I'm saying? Small. So anyway, you not believe this? This man tells me he has a treadmill in every single room in his house.
Alexa
What's every single room?
Brooke
Was that a joke?
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
No. So I start laughing because I'm like, oh, wow, crazy. Health kick. Yeah. And he says, no, really? My buddy and I cleaned out a warehouse that had a bunch of treadmills, ellipticals, blah, blah, blah. So they sold a bunch of them, but there were just some leftovers, so I kept a lot of them.
Brooke
What?
Jeffrey
So he's got like a little mini 24 hour fitness in his apartment?
Brooke
Either that or he's got an area in each room to throw all of his clothes on.
Jeffrey
Drying rack.
Brooke
Okay, so this isn't a red flag to you? Treadmills get boring and maybe nice to.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Mix up the scenery.
Jeffrey
Keeps him motivated. If he keeps seeing the treadmill, he'll want to eventually get.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
And it was intimidating too.
Brooke
It was intimidating for you A little bit.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
A little bit too. But you know what? The conversation, we ended up laughing about it. And then it was like, we're having drinks. But we started having those fun, like, hey, let's go on another date. Let's see each other again. Let's. Yeah. And it turned out super fun. And out of the blue, he says to me, hey, what would you do if I show up at your house tomorrow and say, hey, let's go to the Virgin Islands, and we leave in three hours?
Brooke
What?
Alexa
That's crazy.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
And I was like, heck, yeah.
Brooke
Oh, you said yes. You're like a wild child. You're ready to go.
Jeffrey
Was that a joke, or was he serious?
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
You know, I think he just threw it out. Hypothetically, the trip. But I am an adventurous lady.
Brooke
That's interesting. So he sounds like. I mean, also, like, he's just a big dreamer. Right. Like, he's always got some big grand plan and. And you love that idea.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Yeah. And it was fun to, like, daydream like that.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeffrey
So how did that night end?
Brooke
Not in the Cayman Islands.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
No, not entertainment, unfortunately. Well, we said bye with a. With a hug, which was kind of.
Brooke
No kiss.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
No kiss.
Brooke
You think a guy like that would go in for a kiss if he was really wanting to take.
Jeffrey
I thought so too, and it was a hug. That wasn't as big of a hug as she was expecting because he's so small.
Brooke
My arms just kept going.
Sophie Cunningham
Yeah.
Jeffrey
And he wasn't there to pick you up the next day? Like, he.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
He definitely didn't come by.
Brooke
Okay.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
He didn't come by. It's been, like, a week.
Brooke
It's been a week.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Yeah. But I don't know what I did. I keep thinking, was I too much like a friend? Almost like.
Brooke
No. Sometimes those big dreamer people can also be big flaky.
Alexa
Yeah.
Brooke
You know what I mean? Like, it's like, a lot of talk and not a lot of followers off.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Hiking a mountain somewhere.
Brooke
That could be.
Jeffrey
But your email to us said that you've been texting with Trey a few times.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Well, I've been texting. He just hasn't responded.
Brooke
Maybe he's just waiting for you to show up at his house.
Alexa
House. What if he's literally in the Cayman Islands and was like, oh, I forgot to pick her up?
Jeffrey
It's like the Jamaican version of Home Alone. We're gonna hopefully bring it to a happy conclusion. When we come back, we'll call Trey for you and try and get you your second date update. Get you over to one of those islands right after this. Okay.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
Awesome.
Jeffrey
Second date update. One man, one woman, and 20 treadmills.
All running at the exact same time.
Alexa
How romantic. It's a 400 meter sprint to love jump.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
On this one at least.
Jeffrey
How it's going for our listener, Elena.
Brooke
And oh, it's so funny.
Jeffrey
The guy that she was recently out with named Trey, cuz they went and grabbed some drinks, she learned that he really does have treadmills in every single room of his house. That was the weird part of the night afterwards. It got a lot better from there. And they were laughing together, they were planning future dates. And he even threw out a theoretical of maybe taking her to an exotic island, showing up at her house and just whisking her away. I know, and it got her really excited. But it's been a week since that date happened and there has been no second date and no trips abroad.
Brooke
You know, it's like you felt like you recovered from the very beginning. But maybe he just really was insulted when you told him he was. He was smaller than in his pictures.
Alexa
Yeah, well, and maybe because after you patted him on the head after you said that.
Jeffrey
Do you think that's possible, Elena?
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Possible? I don't know. It was a pretty fun conversation after that.
Brooke
Yeah, I could see his reaction. I couldn't get over a guy telling me I looked bigger than in my pictures. Like I wouldn't, you know, I don't know that I also working out a lot, so. That's true.
Jeffrey
Let's see. We're going to call him right now. Hopefully he's not in the middle of one of his treadmill workouts, but that'd.
Brooke
Be amazing if he was small.
Alexa
I imagine it's like a hamster.
Brooke
Yeah, I'm in the kitchen.
Jeffrey
Let's try and call him. Here we go.
Brooke
Hello?
I think we're safe.
Jeffrey
I think we're good. Hey, is this Trey?
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
Yeah, this is Trey.
Brooke
Hi, Trey.
Jeffrey
You're on the radio right now with a show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
How many people are on the phone? Wait, what'd you say?
Jeffrey
Answer your first question. Four people are in this room. And this is a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning that you're on right now.
Brooke
Hey, why? Great question.
Alexa
You're sharp.
Jeffrey
We like that. This is a segment called A Second Date Update and we're trying to help out one of our listeners, get a hold of you, and maybe even see if we can hook you up for another date because you went out with her already one time named Elena.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
Oh.
Alexa
Oh, you remember her, right?
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
Yeah, I know. I know who Elena is.
Alexa
Okay.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Okay.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
Did she have you call me?
Brooke
Huh?
Jeffrey
Yeah, that's how the segment works. We. We kind of get a vibe of how the first date went, and then we reach out on her behalf to try and figure out how we can get you two back together.
Brooke
There's a reason she's confused. It sounds like on your date, you guys were talking a lot about, like, going out again and how fun that'd be.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
I mean, yeah, we had a good time. She seems like she's fun, and that's great.
Jeffrey
She said a lot of the same stuff about you.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
Yeah, there was. I don't know, there was a moment, though, that was kind of a deal breaker for me. So I don't think that's gonna be working out.
Jeffrey
Oh, no, that's all right. I mean, you're allowed to have your opinions on stuff, but it would help if. If maybe we could know about the moment and pass that along to Elena just to help her out.
Brooke
Right. Make her feel better, to have some closure, insight.
Jeffrey
Would you mind sharing?
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
Okay. Yeah.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Okay.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
I guess I should explain that I have this thing that I do when I go out on a date with someone for the first time. It's kind of like a litmus test.
Jeffrey
We've heard a few of these before.
Brooke
We do a lot of these dating segments, and there's a lot of people that have different types of. Types of tests when they go out, and they usually don't end very well.
Jeffrey
Yeah, but Brooke, still. She loves them.
Brooke
Yeah.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
I mean, I usually ask something to the effect of, like, if I show up at your door tomorrow and say, a plane's leaving in three hours and we're going to the islands, you want to come?
Jeffrey
Oh, okay.
Alexa
That's the test, actually. Fun.
Jeffrey
Well, she mentioned that to us. Yeah. And she said that she was up for it, right?
Brooke
Yeah, she told us it was a fun hypothetical question that you asked on the date.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Yeah.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
She tell you how she responded?
Jeffrey
Like, she seemed excited. Yeah, I'm down to travel or something like that.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
Yeah, no, that's the. That's the wrong answer to that question. That's, like, worst answer you can give me.
Brooke
Wait, let's go. Is the wrong answer if you're inviting.
Alexa
Someone to do something and they agree.
Brooke
I thought you were, like, adventure boy.
Jeffrey
What's the right answer?
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
The right answer is let me check and see if I can. Or, you know, let me look at my schedule or, you know, I'll have to talk to my friends or anything, really. Anything else that indicates that you've got a life of your own that you're living.
Alexa
Oh, you don't drop everything for a stranger. I can kind of see.
Brooke
But it was a Hypothetical question. Like you weren't actually doing it. Like, honestly, if you actually showed up at her door, she probably would have to make some pre. Arrangements.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Yeah, and maybe.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
But she got very excited. She kept saying, you know, I'm gonna pack my bags and be ready to go. She had no indication that she has any responsibilities, that she has a career.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Yeah, hold on.
Brooke
There's no responsibility.
Jeffrey
Hold on. Elena.
Brooke
Yep. Spontaneous.
Jeffrey
Well, it's too late to surprise him with it now, because, Trey, you've probably heard her voice at this point. That's Elena, who's been waiting to talk to you.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Trey, you're so funny. Because, you know what's so funny about my responsibilities is I probably make three times what you make. Oh.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
Wow.
Brooke
I mean, that's not the point. I guess that's a flex. Like, good on you, Elena, but why do you bring that up?
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
I don't think that's true.
Jeffrey
We need one of you at a time. Trey, what do you have to say to Elena? That she makes three times as much as you?
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
I say that's really unlikely. I don't believe that's true. And even if it were true, it has nothing to do with anything right now.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Okay, well, he sells. He sells treadmills on the side, guys.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
So if you ever need.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
He's very selling those things.
Jeffrey
All right, let's settle this. We'll settle this once and for all. Let's all go around the room and say how much money we make to you.
Brooke
Well, I mean, Trey, that should be great news for you, because then Elena can pay for the Cayman Islands vacation and take you with her.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
Let's hop in the PJ and fly down there. I'm sure she's got one.
Brooke
I mean, this all seems so silly. You guys are fighting about a hypothetical question.
Jeffrey
Is it just a hypothetical question, or. Trey, do you really do this and actually take women to islands? If. If they give you the right answer and say, let me check my schedule first.
Brooke
You sound very eager, Jeffrey.
Jeffrey
I want to know.
Very busy, man. I've got a lot of hobbies and responsibilities.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
If she answers, you know, she gives a good answer to the question, we get a second date, and maybe it goes from there.
Jeffrey
Okay, so it is in the cards.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
It's like, not with me.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
Absolutely. Yeah. I've done it before, but it's not something that's going to happen the first night we meet.
Brooke
Okay, you're like the troll under the bridge with the riddles. If you answer that correctly, then you can pass Elena.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
There you go.
Jeffrey
I'm Hearing you saying, like, no, not for me. Like, why are you so closed off. Off to it?
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Are you really?
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
I would never. Now that I know he tests and that there's all these, like, hypothetical and is it. It's just. No, I'm over it.
Jeffrey
There's not all these hypotheticals and all these hoops. It's just one question.
Alexa
But now I kind of see her point. Because it's like, he could be like, hey, do you want dessert? And she's like, no. And he's like, oh, well, you just failed another test.
Brooke
It's a lot.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Another test?
Brooke
Yeah. Someone's entire life on how they answer that question.
Alexa
Again, another hypothetical.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
You know what, guys? It's my prerogative to ask the questions I want to ask on my first date.
Jeffrey
Sure.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
But the fact that she brought up money right away to try to one up me is a huge red flag. It's a really low class move. It tells me I made the right choice.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
You're the one that said I didn't have responsibilities. I just wanted to let you know that my house is fully paid off and I have plenty of to go around, so. That's the thing is you didn't even ask, but you're gonna bring up that I don't have responsibility to make yourself look good? Babe, I don't think so.
Brooke
I mean, I know you guys are kind of fighting right now, but really feel like they're a good match.
Jeffrey
I know.
Alexa
Hypothetically. Hypothetically, if that never happened, you know.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
What we might have done if she didn't get me on the radio to put me on the spot?
Brooke
Now it's this.
Alexa
Okay, now it's our fault.
Jeffrey
See, that's her test.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
It's always my fault. That's the thing. This is the type of guy he is. I see now.
I'm the winner. Yay.
Jeffrey
You know, even this is going horribly. I'm gonna ask anyway to send you guys out on a second date that we would pay for.
Sophie Cunningham
Yeah.
Brooke
We make so much money locally, though, we can't go.
Jeffrey
We can't cross country. Borders. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Keep it within the area code.
Alexa
Not in the Cayman Islands. Maybe like a Caribbean restaurant.
Sophie Cunningham
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Anybody.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
That's a big heart for me. That's a no for me.
Brad/Trey (Date Males)
Elena was great. We had a lot of fun on that first day, but it's a no for me.
Jeffrey
Okay, well, mutual at least. Now I'd like to offer to send Trey and me to a private island. Trey? Elena. Will you pay for it?
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Not me. Definitely not.
Alexa
Oh, come on.
Brooke
You make all the money.
Jeffrey
Your house has already paid off.
Brooke
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Jeffrey
Too bad we couldn't get a yes from those two because I think we all agree that they would have been good for each other. Like, just taken a second to think about it and listen.
Brooke
If you would have just dropped that test, they would have been on a floor state by now.
Alexa
That was the only thing.
Jeffrey
Yeah, she would have laughed it off and been like, oh, that was like one. One dumb test. Like, I can get over it. I don't want to blame one of them because they both kind of share the blame for not hearing each other out.
Brooke
Dude, the money brag shocked me. Yeah.
Good for you. But yeah was weird.
Alexa
Interesting.
Brooke
It's a hard. Not the first time she's used that in argument.
Alexa
Yeah, my house is paid off.
Jeffrey
Okay, ready to go. But I know hypotheticals are a touchy subject. The thing is, we never got to ask the real hypothetical.
Brooke
What's that?
Jeffrey
Would Brooke take a DNA test to prove her children are really her husband? It's a hypothetical. But she keeps saying screaming no. And the fact that she says that speaks volume. Oh, now you would.
Sophie Cunningham
Of course I would.
Listener Caller (Kelly/Elena)
Yeah, when we're on air.
Jeffrey
But behind closed doors, it's been no for the past four years.
Brooke
Dude, that first baby I had looked exactly like my husband.
Alexa
The second one, she can't remember the.
Jeffrey
Name of it but that first one. Anyway, we're happy to do these segments and help out with your dating life. Email the show. We'll call that person who isn't calling you back. Check out all of our second day podcasts wherever you get yours at.
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Episode: Double Roasted Turkey + 20 Treadmills of Love
Date: December 6, 2025
Host: Brooke and Jeffrey (with Alexa and Sophie Cunningham)
Format: Two “Second Date Update” calls, each featuring a listener seeking answers after a puzzling first date experience—plus the show’s signature banter.
This episode features two “Second Date Update” classics—each a blend of confusion, comedy, and awkwardness. In the first, a neighbor “rescues” a man from culinary disaster, leading to a failed romantic spark. In the second, a woman navigates an odd “treadmill litmus test” and runs into a dealbreaker. Both stories showcase the chaos, unpredictability, and sometimes pettiness of modern dating.
(Timestamps: [03:44]–[19:36])
Listener: Kelly
Date: Brad
Kelly helps her apartment neighbor Brad during a would-be fire—caused by his failed attempt at cooking a turkey. She steps in to save dinner before his boss arrives. Flirtation follows, but Brad ghosts her.
The Rescue & First (Kind-of) Date
Investigating the Ghost
Brad’s Side of the Story
Kelly’s Defense: Flirting or Insult?
Escalation & Mutual Annoyance
Why no second date?
Brad felt Kelly’s “flirty” banter was actually abrasive under stress, likening her to an overbearing chef. Kelly insists she was just joking—but both agree that it’s not a romantic match, and things end with laughs at just how combustible their communication style was.
(Timestamps: [23:09]–[39:47])
Listener: Elena
Date: Trey
Elena meets “adventurous” Trey on a dating app and is bemused to discover he a) is much smaller in person, and b) owns a treadmill in every room. Trey invents a “spontaneity test” for all his dates.
Profile and First Impressions
The “Litmus Test”
When “Spontaneous” Backfires
Hosts’ Observations
Why no second date?
Both dislike how the other handled a “test” question. Trey wants evidence of independence, Elena thinks being game is positive. Money and pride come into play, and neither backs down. The hosts note they might actually be a good match—if not for the escalation.
Summary useful for:
Anyone seeking a shot of reality (and comedy) about dating gone sideways; listeners who enjoy seeing why miscommunications escalate (with plenty of gags and zingers); and fans speculating whether, with a little more patience, any second date update might yield actual romance.