#29 Remembering Charlie Kirk

Summary

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Podcast Summary

Podcast: Bubba On the Lake
Host: Bill “Bubba” Bussey
Episode: #29 – Remembering Charlie Kirk
Date: September 11, 2025

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Overview

This special, somber episode of Bubba On the Lake is devoted to the shocking news of the assassination of Charlie Kirk, the 31-year-old founder of Turning Point USA, who was shot and killed at an event at Utah Valley University. Bill “Bubba” Bussey, joined by his son Hunter and wife Betty, reflects on Kirk's life, the state of discourse and violence in America, the spiritual and societal ramifications, and the meaning his death may hold for the country. The episode was recorded quickly after the news broke and veers from its intended lighthearted 9/11 content to address this tragedy.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Breaking News: The Death of Charlie Kirk

• Timeline of Events ([00:00-02:43])
  • Bubba describes learning of the shooting via text, initial confusion over Kirk’s condition, and confirmation of his death.
  • Charlie Kirk was a prominent conservative activist, young father, and founder of Turning Point USA.
  • Bubba did not know Charlie personally, but admired his dedication to free speech and conservative principles.

2. The Value of Free Speech and the Loss to Democracy

• Bubba on Free Speech ([02:43-07:00])
  • Emphasis on First Amendment as foundational to American democracy: “Free speech is the most coveted right that we have. Our framers put it number one…” (Bubba, 03:04)
  • Drawing distinctions between civil disagreement and violence: speakers must debate, not attack.
  • The assassination is viewed as an attack on democracy and the Constitution itself.

3. Spiritual Reflections on Charlie’s Life and Death

• Faith, Suffering, and Hope ([04:00-09:30])
  • Bubba discusses the spiritual assurance that Kirk, a believer, “is with the Lord in paradise today, at this very moment…” (Bubba, 05:53)
  • A message that Kirk’s wife, Erica, will withstand this loss through faith: “But she will get through it because God tells us that with him, we can overcome everything that stands in our way. Everything. Even death of a beloved spouse.” (Bubba, 07:55)
  • The broader spiritual metaphor: when a tree falls, more arise – Kirk’s passing may inspire countless others.

4. Reactions and Processing the Tragedy with Hunter

• Generational Perspective ([11:57-20:54])
  • Bubba and son Hunter discuss following Kirk and his family, the impact of his death on young conservatives, and the sense of numbness and vulnerability.
  • Hunter emphasizes the uniqueness of Kirk and foresees his influence growing in martyrdom: “If anything, they've created a martyr and Charlie Kirk will live on forever. There's going to be millions upon millions of Charlie Kirks that will pop up now because of this.” (Hunter, 16:17)
  • Both express concern that the crime reflects a deeper societal malaise and divide.
  • Brief exchange on justice: strong support for prosecuting and capital punishment for the shooter, echoing Utah’s governor’s stance.

5. Spiritual and Societal Consequences with Betty

• Betty’s Reflections ([23:02-32:19])
  • Betty shares poignant thoughts on mortality, the afterlife, and the importance of faith: “He’s touched his hand, he’s seen the scars... Charlie, Kirk soul is with the Lord.” (Betty, 24:10)
  • Recalls childhood Bible lessons: “The grass withers and the flowers fade, but the word of God will stand forever.” (Betty, 23:50)
  • Laments proliferation of evil, citing several other tragedies, relating them to spiritual warfare.
  • Encourages listeners to reflect on their own mortality and faith: “What if evil comes to my door tomorrow?... Are you ready to face eternity?” (Bubba, 28:30)

6. A Call for Hope and Civic Renewal

• Bubba appeals for positive change, urging listeners to be better citizens, disagree with civility, and avoid demonization of opponents: “We can have fun with it. We can laugh about our differences, but we're all still in the same boat here. We are Americans, and we can act better than we're acting right now.” (Bubba, 31:30)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Free Speech:
  “Our framers put it, number one... that you had the right to speak your mind.”
  — Bill “Bubba” Bussey ([03:04])

• On the Age Connection:
  “He's five years older than me. I'm 27. He's 31, or was 31.”
  — Hunter ([15:14])

• On Martyrdom and Inspiration:
  “If anything, they've created a martyr and Charlie Kirk will live on forever…there is, that is a one of one person…But I'm not going to sit here and say that it didn't kind of fire me up a little bit on the car ride over here, because sometimes you have to speak your truth.”
  — Hunter ([16:17])

• On the Nature of Debate:
  “People having policies and getting up and making speeches is not a threat to democracy. That is democracy.”
  — Bill “Bubba” Bussey ([08:58])

• On Tragedy and Optimism:
  “Nature paints a beautiful picture. Every time a tree falls in the woods and dies, it gives seedlings... and so it will be with Charlie Kirk. Sad for his death, thankful for his life.”
  — Bill “Bubba” Bussey ([09:42])

• On the Spiritual Perspective:
  “I remember learning the first bible verse…'the grass withers and the flowers fade, but the word of God will stand forever.' …So Charlie, Kirk soul is with the Lord.”
  — Betty ([23:50 & 24:10])

• Call to Action:
  “Don't let that happen to you. There is a better way. And the ultimate love in the universe was laid down to give you a path back. Don't let that gift go away unused.”
  — Bill “Bubba” Bussey ([29:38])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:00-02:43] — Bubba recounts learning of Kirk’s assassination, his background, and impact.
• [02:43-09:42] — The importance of free speech, spiritual reflections, the violation of democracy.
• [11:57-20:54] — Hunter joins: generational impact, martyrdom, personal feelings, and calls for justice.
• [23:02-32:19] — Betty joins: spiritual insights, reflections on evil, mortality, and family faith.
• [34:29-end] — Bubba’s final words: hope, civic engagement, lessons, and sign-off.

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Conclusion & Tone

From the opening moments, this episode is laden with solemnity, searching for spiritual meaning and societal lessons in the wake of violence. The tone is earnest, grieving, but also ultimately hopeful: both for Kirk’s legacy and the potential for America’s healing. Bubba, Hunter, and Betty emphasize unity, faith, and striving for civil political discourse even in the face of tragedy. The episode serves as both a tribute to Charlie Kirk and a plea for courage, reflection, and goodness.

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This summary preserves the reflective, faith-anchored, and family-centered tone of the podcast, offering both a thorough recap and specific quotes to give non-listeners a sense of the episode’s flow and impact.

Transcript

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

Hello again, everybody, and welcome to Bubba on the Lake. We have started the show a little different today. The festive mood is not here. We had a fun show that we wanted to present to you on 9 11. But all that changed on 910 when shortly after lunch, I got a text that there had been a shooting at Charlie Kirk's event in Utah. And I thought, what is that about Utah? That's usually not a very dangerous spot. Fairly conservative. Probably would have been a warm crowd for Charlie there. And then I got the message a little bit later that he had actually been shot and condition unknown. Then a little bit later, we heard that he was stable. And a short time after that, President Trump announced that Charlie Kirk had been killed in a political assassination today on the campus of Utah Valley University in Utah. Charlie Kirk was the founder of Turning Point USA. 31 years old. He leaves behind a wife, Erica, and two small children. He was a dynamo on many fronts. I did not know Charlie Kirk personally. I have several friends that did know him personally and. But I never had the pleasure of meeting him myself. But I was a fan of what he was doing, the way he was doing it. He was a believer in free speech. If you had seen any of his rallies, his story is really incredible. He grew up in Chicago and was kind of taken back about the way that politics was going, especially for young Americans, and may have even tried college for a while and decided that he was not getting educated. They were trying to indoctrinate him and quit, did the heck with it, and started his own group called Turning Point usa, that was to educate young people, to give them the other side of the story, to let them know that there were conservative values and conservative ideas that worked and were actually better than some of the things that were being taught or indoctrinated in college.

[Betty]

And.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

And he paid the ultimate price for that today. Rather, if you supported Charlie Kirk and his conservative political views or you opposed him, either way, that's fine. You have the ability to do that. But what I think we all need to do together is to speak out heavily against political violence. You know, free speech is the most coveted right that we have. Our framers put it, number one, they put it above owning a gun. They put it above the way we elect our senators and our congressman and our president. They put it above everything else that you had the right to speak your mind. Now, there's consequences to when you speak your mind. You're going to have people that disagree with you, but you can do that in a civilized manner. This goes Back to the very founding of our country when you used to get on a street corner and give a speech, and if you would stand on your soapbox, you could not go over and out shout him and try to run him off the corner. You had to go find your own corner and get on a soapbox and give your opinion. It's just so counter American for this type of activity. As we're recording this late in the afternoon, there was one suspect that was grabbed early. They say now he's just nothing to do with the shooter, but he was creating a disturbance and has been charged with disorderly conduct that may or may not be dropped. The FBI director has said that there is someone else who is in custody who they believe to be the shooter. Now, the press conference a little while ago did not acknowledge that. So, as in many times when you have these kind of things happen, there's conflicting facts, conflicting reports, and you have to work your way through all of that. But the thing here, there's really two. Two sides to this coin. There's the spiritual side. And on that side, God called home a servant. Today, Charlie Kirk is in a better place. He was a believer. He loved God. He believed that Jesus Christ was his savior, and that Jesus Christ was exactly who he said he was. He was the Son of God. He was the sacrificial lamb to take the punishment for sin, past, present, and future, all by one man, so that we could have fellowship with an eternal, just God, the only way it could be done. And I've heard people say, well, how can one man do that? Well, through one man, sin entered the world also. So through the sacrifice of a 100% man, 100% God, perfect individual, a bridge was built back to a just and eternal God who does not make mistakes. And today, he chose to bring Charlie home. I have no doubt, based on what I have seen and the way Charlie lived his life and what his friends have told me, that he is with the Lord in paradise today, at this very moment, as you listen to this, and given how good this place is, given the choice to return back to earth, even to his beloved family and his beloved Job and his movement, he would gladly stay in the presence of the Lord, as would any of us. His wife is going to suffer a terrible earthly loss, but she is also a very strong believer, and she will use this, and she will lean on her faith and she will get through this. It will be difficult. It will be hard. It will be unimaginable, especially the way it happened, but she will get through it because God tells us that with him, we can overcome everything that stands in our way. Everything. Even death of a beloved spouse. Painful as it is and as difficult as it will be, it will not be an easy road. But she will survive. She will overcome. I have no doubt on the political side of this. Again, it's a little bit of our Constitution being ripped. We hear people give speeches all the time, talking about an ex. Extra dental. I can't even say the word now. Ex existential. There you go. Threat to democracy. People having policies and getting up and making speeches is not a threat to democracy. That is democracy. That was the whole idea. We were going to stand up, we were going to debate. The citizens would listen to both sides of the argument, and they would decide for themselves at the ballot box. That is how the system is supposed to work. And Charlie did that. He went to campuses, some that were friendly, some that were hostile, and he had the, hey, come up and debate me table. I mean, you got to come up. And he wanted people that disagreed with him to come to the front of the line. He loved to debate. Some people don't care for that. But it was just words. It was just debating. It was just ideas. And no one was threatened, no one was hurt. But today, someone decided to enter into the political debate. A gun and a bullet. And that is when all of us in the country take a wound. Democracy is wounded. Our Constitution is wounded. We're a worse country this afternoon than we were this morning, even on the cusp of 9 11. So I truly think that the loss of Charlie Kirk will inspire young people. And while we have heavy hearts now and our eyes fill with tears and our hearts are heavy, I think you will see many more Charlie Kirks arise from this. Nature paints a beautiful picture. Every time a tree falls in the woods and dies, it gives seedlings and starts to many new trees. It's the cycle of life. And so it will be with Charlie Kirk. Sad for his death, thankful for his life. And we will continue this discussion when we come back. You're listening to Bubba on the Lake.

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[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

We're back. It is Bubba on the Lake. I'm Bill. Bubba Bussy, your host, and it is a somber and heavy program tonight. We had what I thought was going to be a cheery, Happy show for 911 as we try to move on past that tragedy. But the events of 9, 1025 have prevented that. For those of you who have not heard, Charlie Kirk was politically assassinated at Utah Valley university in Utah. 31 years old, founder of Turning Point USA. My son Hunter has stopped by the studio here and we actually was going to do a segment about our new podcast, the Tailgate Tailgate show. But nobody's in the mood for that.

[Hunter]

No, we're not. We are not. It's been kind of a rough day.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

So what do you think about Charlie Kirk? Did you follow him online? What did you think about what he talked about and the way he went about it?

[Hunter]

I did. Followed his wife, too. They're both very outstanding Christian people. If you know me, I'm not like my sister Caitlin, who we call the spirit to child. I call her the political dragonaut of the family. You would think it was dad, but if you talk to Caitlin, you're like, wow, who is this? But I'm not into politics like she is. I keep up with it a little bit, but I'm more of a sports guy. I'm more of a geek. I like movies, TV shows. But Charlie Kirk was Fun to follow because I liked his style of almost set up a debate table. College campus, high school campus, an open public space, come talk to me. Let's debate civilly like our democracy and constitution allows us to do. And that's been infringed today because someone thought, I'm over this. I'm going to end his life in front of thousands of people on a college campus today. Which is just insane that I'm talking about him. I feel like in the past tense now, because literally, I saw a post the other day him joking about, you know, his throwing wrist for he always throws out hats when he starts out his. All of his debate.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

As he was today.

[Hunter]

Yes, as he was today. And I don't know, it's just like one of those things where I just feel numb. It shouldn't come to that with politics. We should be able to disagree and be civil afterwards, like most of his debates are if you watch his videos. It sucks. It really sucks that it has gotten to this point. And you would think, you know, after everything that happened with President Trump, not once, but twice. He was hit once and, you know, the golf course situation was a whole nother thing. Thankfully, someone spotted him, you know, three holes ahead, wherever he was on the golf course. But it's just insane to think that that happened. And then you would think, well, after that, surely nothing will happen. And keep in mind, y', all, Charlie Kirk is not a public office holder. He's just a political influencer. I could go out there and do that if I wanted to. I have friends that would want to go out there and do that if they wanted to. He's five years older than me. I'm 27. He's 31, or was 31.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

Does that. Does that hit home, the age with you?

[Hunter]

Yes, it does.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

You know, to such an interesting story about how he quit college and said, I don't, you know, I'm not into the indoctrination. I want to do my own thing. I mean, that. That's. And he turned, you know, he started turning point with, you know, a handful of kids.

[Hunter]

Yeah.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

And then it turned into, you know, tens and then hundreds and then thousands. And, you know, he gets a lot of credit in this last election for helping more young people to vote for conservative candidates and values than we've ever had before. How do you, Hunter, how do you process all this? Does it make you want to get more active? Does it make you not want to? Because that's the message that enemies are trying to send, that if you stand up for what's right. You stand up for God, you stand up for Jesus, you, you stand up for biblical principles. We're going to take your life. That's the message it was sent today.

[Hunter]

Well, if anything, they've created a martyr and Charlie Kirk will live on forever. There's going to be millions upon millions upon millions of Charlie Kirks that will pop up now because of this. And I'm not saying I'm going to be this, you know, the next Charlie Kirk by any means, because I think there is, that is a one of one person. From the stuff that you've seen, you know, on the news coverage of the clips, there's no one going to substitute Charlie Kirk ever again. That is a one of one experience that we got in a human being. But I'm not going to sit here and say that it didn't kind of fire me up a little bit on the car ride over here, because sometimes you have to speak your truth. And so help me God, I'll speak my truth if I have to. We're not supposed to be scared to speak on what we believe in. And that's exactly what they're trying to do. And we will not stay silent.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how this spreads, how it plays out over time. I mean, I don't think you're going to see immediate results. But you know, Charlie Kirk was 31. There's. How does it affect 15 year olds, 16 year olds, 18 year olds that are trying to decide what they're going to do with their life and how they're going to pursue what they're doing? And will this push them into this kind of political arena? I don't know, it's, it's yet to be seen. But I know he was an optimist and I want to be an optimist sometimes I become a realist, sadly now. But I always appreciate people that are optimistic. I need them to pick me up sometimes. But it's just, it's incredible how this is unfolded today. I mean, I feel like that people are just numb about it.

[Hunter]

Yeah.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

Like, so it's not the first time. We've had other attempts and other assassinations in our country that didn't make sense either.

[Hunter]

Yeah.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

And I tell you one thing, you won't hear from the conservatives today, that is go get all the guns. You'll hear that. No, because that, that didn't, that didn't commit this crime. An evil person did. And I tell you, I thought the governor of Utah made a great speech oh, my gosh.

[Hunter]

Yeah. That man had the absolute stones to get up there and was like, hey, by the. We're going to find you and we're going to hold you to the highest extent of the law.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

Oh.

[Hunter]

And we have the death penalty, just in case you forgot, over there in the state of Utah.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

Well, I hope they find the person. I hope they give them due process of the law, and I hope they convict them and execute them. I really do.

[Hunter]

And it's, you know.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

Because you forfeited your chance to live.

[Hunter]

Yeah.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

When you can't play good with the other kids, you know.

[Hunter]

Exactly.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

And I think that's a Christian position. I don't have any problem stating that. Yeah. If anything, Jesus Christ himself was a, you know, falsely accused and executed under capital punishment. He had. He had the perfect stage to say this should never happen to anybody else.

[Hunter]

Exactly.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

He didn't do it.

[Hunter]

Yeah.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

He didn't do it. So.

[Hunter]

And that's what drives me nuts, because there's a lot of people in this country that think politics is the final word. That's why everyone's acting like they act. For example, today with Charlie Kirk being publicly assassinated in front of college students.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

Yeah. Thousands. Who just got back 2000. Yeah.

[Hunter]

Yeah. Who just got back to school.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

Yeah.

[Hunter]

Like, what in the world. Like, I wish people would just wake up and look up and realize that there is a father with his arms wide open to just wait and grab you to come home. That's all that needs to be done. The politics that people. I don't care if you're left, right, middle, whatever you are. Conservative Democrat, liberal republic. I don't care.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

They.

[Hunter]

It's their plan. Media is to divide us, to get results, to put money in their own pockets. We are puppets for that world. The only person we should be looking at is God. Because the cross at the end of the day has the final word. And if you have a problem with that, argue with a wall.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

Very well said.

[Hunter]

I yield my time.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

Proud of you.

[Hunter]

Thank you.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

We'll be right back. You're listening to Bubba on the Lake.

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We'Re back. It is Bubba on the lake. This is Bill Bubba Bussy, your host and it's kind of a heavy show today. We've just witnessed the political assassination of Charlie Kirk and we had a fun light hearted show planned and that kind of flew out the window and we've had to look at some more serious issues. Betty is joining me now. Betty, I know you've been watching this unfold this afternoon. Unbelievable, isn't it?

[Betty]

Yes, it is. It really is. And I'll try to get through this.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

Pretty.

[Betty]

I mean it's just sad to see the state of our country, to see just the state of our world. I mean, not just this today, but just so much has happened just in the last week. But I did want to say something. I didn't know Charlie. We had a friend that knew Charlie. He apparently was a believer. So my belief is that he is with Jesus. He's touched his hand, he's seen the scars. He's enjoying the golden streets. He is in heaven. So he's in a better place. When I was a young girl, I remember learning the first bible verse, Isaiah 48. It was the grass withers and the flowers fade, but the word of God will stand forever. And then later on, this precious lady in vacation Bible school taught me that when all else fails, when the world ends, all that's left is God's word and man's soul. So Charlie, Kirk soul is with the Lord.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

Yep.

[Betty]

And when all else fails, where will your soul be? So that's a lesson we can learn from this. Today, evil has not overcome, but evil is present. It is too much.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

The same demons that we read about in the Bible that was causing so much trouble. Many of them that Jesus cast out are still with us today. And they still roam and they still look for people that they can take advantage of. And that's why you got to have the full armor of God on. You got to protect yourself. And God allows that. He gives you that ability through his word and through prayer and through belief. I think to protect yourself, to be marked, if you will, that you're off limits doesn't mean that we're not going to suffer. We live in a planet that is fallen and we all are living out a death sentence right now and nothing going to change that. But we do have the hope of what will happen after that, as you brought up.

[Betty]

Yes.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

Does it. You made some, some great points and we've talked a little bit about it on a spiritual level and a political level. Does. Do you just feel like. And I don't know what it is about this time of year in September. That's crazy stuff keep happening, you know, around the 10th or 11th. I mean, it's such a nice time of year.

[Betty]

I know.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

And it's always seems like some kind of tragedy going on.

[Betty]

I know. I was just thinking September 11th is tomorrow 9 11.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

This will actually air on Nine. Do you feel like that our country is a little more damaged tonight? That our Constitution is not living up to its full potential?

[Betty]

I really don't know what to think. I think evil is just rampant is what I think. And I don't know if that's our country. I think it's our world. Yeah, really. And I mean, like I said, the events leading up to this, this week, look at all. I don't know if you. And I don't know what all has been said on this podcast already, but the train incident in North Carolina, period, Auburn, Alabama, right in our back door. The veterinarian that was murdered in Queens, New York, the elderly couple that was tortured, murdered, and then their house was burned down. And all, all of this is just pure evil. I mean, it really is. It's nothing but evil. And I mean, how do you, how do you counteract that? I mean, it's just.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

Well, you better. You better have a. You better have a higher order, right?

[Betty]

I mean, you look at it, you know, the God is the Prince of peace. He is a God of order. You know, all this chaos, all this evil.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

You know who that's a signature.

[Betty]

It is Satan is only, you know, the Father allies. So just. I just pray for this country, pray for this world. You know, if you are hearing this. And you don't have a faith. Check it out, you know, because evil will come for you one day, too.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

Well, you know, does. It does make you ask the question. And this is something that I learned when I was young. My dad had 10 brothers and sisters. So as they got older, we had a lot of funerals we went to. And I know at times we have probably spared ours from going to a funeral, but I had to go to a lot of funerals when I was a kid. And when you see these people that were big, some of them bigger than life, laying there in that coffin and they're lowered into that ground, and you think, well, that just doesn't look like a good deal, you know?

[Betty]

Right.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

And, you know, then you start learning that, well, they have a soul and their soul's not in their body, and it lives on. And it has, you know, there's a choice of where it's going to go. And there's no. I don't want to participate. You're in the game. You're either A or B, left or right, up or down. Okay? And I think everybody needs to ask that question tonight. What if evil comes to my door tomorrow? What if I have some horrendous accident? What if I'm told I have some disease? What if I inspire experience? Some kind of crazy shooter like Charlie Kirk did? Are you. Are you ready to die? Are you ready to face eternity? Are you ready to face your maker face to face and give an account for what you have done with your life? If that answer is no, I wouldn't go to bed tonight. I would figure it out. I would get on my hands and knees and I would pray and I would ask God into my heart and say, show me the way. Show me how I can get back to you when it's all said and done. If you do have that settled in your life, you know the peace I'm talking about. And I don't say that arrogant, and I don't say that preachy. I say that as a friend that cares about what is going to happen to you. The Bible tells us that in the final judgment, there is going to be crying and wailing. Not just crying, wailing and gnashing of teeth. People who are in such despair, they are literally going to be breaking their own teeth from gritting their teeth and hollering. And it's a terrible picture. And I believe it's true. Just like I believe the water outside this window here. Don't let that happen to you. Don't let that happen to you. There is a better way. And the ultimate love in the universe was laid down to give you a path back. Don't let that gift go away unused. So I'm thankful for you, Betty, and the godlike grace that you've shown me and the leadership and our family that you've shown and that our kids both have made that decision. They're like all of us. They sometimes probably make bad earthly decisions, but the bigger picture is settled and they know better. And we always try to strive to do better. But they know better.

[Betty]

They do. And I'm thankful for you. For a godly a man in our life, a godly father, a godly husband that has led our family. And I hope Hunter and Caitlin both know, and I remember telling them at a young age, it really doesn't matter, you know what else happens in this life. Just get this right.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

Yep. Because eternity is a long time.

[Betty]

That's right. You and I would like to spend it with them as well as you and our friends and, you know, 60.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

Years or 90 years is a long time. Hey, Eternity. Hey, hey. Eternity. So I say this. While the tragedy of today is heavy on our hearts, let's use it for something positive. Let's decide to make a difference. Let's decide that we can have political discourse and debate. It doesn't mean that the other person is a Nazi. It doesn't mean they deserve death. It just means we simply disagree. We can have fun with it. We can laugh about our differences, but we're all still in the same boat here. We are Americans, and we can act better than we're acting right now. So we'll kind of wrap it up this part with that. Betty, thank you for stopping by.

[Betty]

Thank you for having me.

[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

Love you and I appreciate your heart. We'll be right back. You're listening to Bubba on the Lake.

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[Bill 'Bubba' Bussy]

Well, folks, we're going to wrap this podcast up. It's. It's been a tough day, been a little different. It's going to be a little bit short, but like I say, several of the things we were planning on doing just really does not fit the mood at the time we're recording this. So we're going to. To end it. But I want to say again, and I. I hope that you heard what we've said and the spirit in which we have said it. And I want you to go away uplifted when all said and done. Terrible tragedy, what happened to Charlie Kirk today, personally, professionally, for our country. But it can serve a greater purpose if we all change the way we are because of it, if we become better people, if we become searchers and seekers of God and his wisdom, then it's not in vain. And I just have the strangest suspicion that Charlie Kirk's death is going to be such a motivating factor for so many young people to get involved in politics, to get out, to have debate, to speak their mind, not to get in a fight, but just because we have difference of opinion, we want to discuss it, we can debate it, we can talk about it. A lot of times we're just going to have to agree to disagree and go on, but that's what this country's about. So I want to leave it on an uptick here by saying that I don't think Charlie Kirk's death will be in vain. I think you're going to see a lot of positive things come out of it. My heart breaks for his family. Charlie's in a better place tonight. Given the chance, he wouldn't come back. He would stay right where he is. I have no doubt. And I hope that we all get to that same place one day, too, and that we will be in fellowship with our God and with each other for all of eternity. Because, hey, buddy, that's a long time. And I want you to know that the lessons learned on 911 have not been forgotten either. Sometimes it seems a little distant. But to have a good country, to have a good life, you have to. You have to work at it. You have to fight for it. It doesn't just happen because the only thing. And you know the quote, you've heard it many times, for evil to move in is for good men to do nothing. But we need to oppose evil wherever it is and not tolerate it, not justify it. We also need to be compassionate. We need to help each other out as Americans and disagree in a respectful way. And with that, I will say thank you for listening to our podcast. You know all the details. You know our website, bubonthelake.com, that's kind of where it all centers out of. And we will be back hopefully next week with a lot more fun. But I just felt like this, we need to address this in this show. I know I did. I know my family did. And I hope that you have enjoyed that. And you also feel the uptick that we need to end this on, that Charlie Kirk's life will not be in vain, but will cause everlasting positive influence in our country and in our youth. And with that, I will say thank you for being part of Bubba on the Lake. We appreciate it and we will talk to you very soon. God loves you. So, doctor.