10 TAKEAWAYS from the Buffalo Bills BIGGEST WIN; Playoff HOPES and PLAYING for SEAN MCDERMOTT

Summary

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Buffalo Plus Podcast – Episode Summary

Episode: 10 TAKEAWAYS from the Buffalo Bills BIGGEST WIN; Playoff HOPES and PLAYING for SEAN MCDERMOTT
Date: December 11, 2023
Hosts: Jenna Cottrell, Mike Catalana (Brian also featured)

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Episode Overview

This episode provides in-depth analysis and emotional reactions to the Buffalo Bills’ crucial 20-17 win over the Kansas City Chiefs. Hosts Jenna Cottrell and Mike Catalana discuss how this victory affected the Bills’ playoff hopes, the galvanizing effect of the week’s controversy surrounding coach Sean McDermott, standout player performances, and the emotional tenor in the stadium. They also touch on upcoming challenges and the unique dynamic in the Bills’ locker room.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. What This Win Means for the Bills’ Season

• Playoff Stakes: The Bills move to 7-6, staying alive in the AFC playoff race despite being 11th in standings. The hosts stress that the win “changes everything” regarding postseason hopes.
  • "I don't care about the numbers.... If they win games, this team's going to the playoffs." – Brian (00:49)
• Not a Perfect Game, But A Gritty One: The team “hung on” and made defensive stands when it mattered.
  • "Today was not perfect.... They hung on and they made some stops at the end, but the defense stepping up at the end to seal the win." – Jenna Cottrell (01:01)

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2. Playing for Sean McDermott After a Tough Week

• McDermott Controversy: The hosts discuss how criticism of McDermott in media galvanized the team, leading them to rally around their coach:
  • "Your head coach was beaten up this week. And what happened? They rallied around him." – Brian (01:25)
  • "It galvanized the team." – Jenna Cottrell (01:37)
• Locker Room Support: Moving story from Mitch Morse about personal support from McDermott during tough times:
  • "Sean pulled him aside and was like, 'Hey, I'm here for you... You are so much more than a football player.'" – Jenna (02:47)
  • "That's why when other people say stuff... it's like, don't say that about my brother. And I think that's the way they thought of him." – Brian (03:07)
• Energy as a Theme:
  • "Coming into the locker room... you heard them screaming, energy, energy, energy." – Jenna (03:40)

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3. Game Turning Points and Defensive Heroics

• The Chaos at the End: The controversy around Kadarius Toney’s called-back touchdown due to an offsides flag was a defining moment, with the stadium erupting and then deflating.
  • "This was Ed [Oliver]'s reaction: 'Oh... good for him. Great for us.' So, yes, in a very Ed way." – Brian (04:54, 05:14)
• Defensive Standouts:
  • Ed Oliver – Pressured Mahomes and was a leader in the final stand.
  • Von Miller – Contributed a key play down the stretch (05:41).
  • AJ Epenesa – Early interception changed momentum.
  • Taron Johnson, Terrell Bernard, and Christian Benford – Each made important disruptions.
• Overcoming Injuries:
  • Micah Hyde left with a stinger; concern for his ongoing health (05:57).

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4. Offensive Ups and Downs

• Early Promise and Frustrating Finish: The offense started hot, with James Cook’s touchdown and a robust opening, but sputtered as the game went on.
  • "Then it felt like when you have a balloon... and it just, slowly just starts deflating." – Jenna (07:35)
• Josh Allen’s Grit:
  • Highlighted for a wild, athletic throw to Latavius Murray:
    • "He’s falling out of bounds, going backwards, throws it to Latavius Murray..." – Brian (08:36)
• Underwhelming WR Performance:
  • "Gabe Davis once again... two targets and he had a drop. No catches in this one. And what's going on with Diggs?" – Jenna (09:39)
  • Stefon Diggs: Struggled, including a costly drop late in the game (09:48)
• Role Players Step Up:
  • Deonte Hardy, Trent Sherfield: Made key plays when the standard weapons were quiet (10:45, 10:59).
  • Dalton Kincaid, Dawson Knox: Contributed in the passing game.
• James Cook:
  • Hosts want to see more of him (“80% lightning, 20% thunder”) and praise his dynamism as both runner and receiver (11:21, 13:02).

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5. The Win in Context

• Biggest Regular Season Win of the Allen Era?
  • "I thought this was as big a win as they've had for the franchise in the regular season since Josh has been the quarterback." – Brian (13:06)
  • "In terms of what was at stake, this game was the best." – Jenna (13:15)
• Playoff Hopes Revived:
  • The win puts the Bills in a must-win-each-week mentality and opens a path for late-season drama (13:38).
• Remaining Schedule:
  • Upcoming games: Dallas, Los Angeles, New England, and season finale vs. Miami (13:56).

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6. Stadium and Atmosphere Notes

• Kansas City Crowd Reaction:
  • Noted poor behavior (“plastic bottles filled with water coming down”), rare for KC—contrasted with general fan experience and calling out bad actors despite an otherwise “great place” (14:18-15:55).
• Celebrity Sighting:
  • Taylor Swift’s presence noted:
    • "The Bills are 1-0 when Taylor Swift is in attendance. Fact." – Jenna quoting Catherine Fitzgerald (07:20).

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7. Final Thoughts & Emotional Reactions

• Cautiously Optimistic:
  • "I am still kind of in shock that they won this game." – Jenna (16:07)
  • "I think they deserve to win the game." – Brian (16:12)
• Fear Factor for Opponents:
  • "Every team around the AFC is looking at the Bills…they’re like, 'Shit, we don’t want to see them.'" – Jenna (17:13)
• Playoff Scenarios:
  • Bills' ability to win on the road highlighted—potential to be a “scary” opponent for higher-seeded teams (17:22).
• Comic Relief:
  • "We were joking… I was drinking my Coca Cola and Matt Beauvais said, I look like I needed a cigarette. It was a rough one out here. But they got it done. Good teams win." – Jenna (17:43-17:54)

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Notable Quotes & Standout Moments

• “It galvanized the team… You saw guys today go out of their way… to speak on the character of McDermott.”
  – Jenna (02:18)
• “That's why... it's like, 'don't say that about my brother.'”
  – Brian (03:07)
• “It felt inevitable that the game was going to be tied... I know how this story ends…”
  – Jenna (08:04)
• On Allen’s Athleticism:
  “He’s falling out of bounds… throws it to Latavius Murray, who secured the ball and ran for 15 steps before…”
  – Brian (08:38)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Galvanizing around Sean McDermott: 01:25 – 03:40
• Mitch Morse Story: 02:39 – 03:07
• Kadarius Toney Offsides & Defensive Stands: 04:54 – 05:56
• Micah Hyde Injury & Defensive Analysis: 05:56 – 06:50
• James Cook and Lightning/Thunder RB Dynamic: 11:21 – 13:02
• Biggest Win of Allen Era / Playoff Implications: 13:06 – 13:38
• Kansas City Fan Incident: 14:18 – 15:55
• Allen, Diggs, Davis, and Offensive Miscues: 09:39 – 10:52
• Final Reflections / Emotions: 16:07 – 17:56

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Conclusion

The episode captures the rollercoaster of emotions in a must-win week, highlighting the internal rally around Coach McDermott and key performances in a signature victory. The Buffalo Plus team offers a seasoned combination of insider access, tactical breakdown, and personal moments that bring depth to the Bills’ playoff chase story.

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Transcript

[Jenna Cottrell]

It was such a huge moment for this team to be able to pull off a win. A, because what was on the line in terms of their season, but B, to be able to do it and to say to everyone, hey, we are still here and we support our guy in Sean McDermott.

[Brian]

This is the Buffalo plus podcast, Brian, brought to you by Connor.

[Jenna Cottrell]

All right, welcome Back to the Buffalo Plus YouTube channel, presented by Connors and Ferris. Mike Catalana. I am Jenna Cottrell. Please be sure to, like, comment and subscribe as we break down this Bill's win. Easy one over the Chiefs. Never a doubt, right?

[Brian]

Easy one. This was. This was a cakewalk.

[Jenna Cottrell]

2017. The Bills now 7 and 6 on the season. They are 11th in the AFC playoff standings.

[Brian]

I don't care about the numbers. I don't care about 11th. They are online to be a playoff team.

[Jenna Cottrell]

I. I agree.

[Brian]

This win changes it. The mess in front of them will subside. If they win games. This team's going to the playoffs.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Yeah, absolutely. And I think today was not perfect. I'm still trying to figure out exactly how they found a way to win this game. They hung on and they made some stops at the end, but the defense stepping up at the end to seal the win.

[Brian]

Yeah, the defense was great. The defense was great. Offense made some plays. James Cook, we'll go through all of that.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Yeah.

[Brian]

What was this game really about besides them staying alive in the playoffs?

[Jenna Cottrell]

Sean McDermott.

[Brian]

It was about Sean McDermott. I mean, look, your head coach was beaten up this week.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Absolutely.

[Brian]

And what happened? They rallied around him.

[Jenna Cottrell]

I think it galvanized the team.

[Brian]

No question. They rallied around him because this is where you get paid back for being a man and a human that he didn't get credit for. In the article, he came across like, I don't know.

[Jenna Cottrell]

What an asshole.

[Brian]

Yeah, he really did. And the people who know him best. And look, does everybody love him? A lot of you want him gone. I get it. You're talking about the football coach. As a man, I remember thinking, like, it's Sean McDermott. Like, yeah, he's got part boy scout, part wrestler, part focus coach. You. You know, he's a lot of thing. There's things that he's not. But a bad guy, it just didn't seem to fit.

[Jenna Cottrell]

And I think you saw the team stand up for him earlier in the week. And I think you saw guys today go out of their way, Mitch Morris being one of them, to speak on the character of McDermott and how to him, you know, after or before a Game. Excuse me. You know, Mitch Morris has been open about dealing with some anxiety issues. He wasn't sure at this point, moment if he was going to play because he was very well.

[Brian]

This is a game he was talking about earlier in his career with the Bills, to clarify. And he said he talked to Sean. What do you say? 90 minutes before the game.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Yeah. And Sean pulled him aside and was like, hey, like, I'm here for you, essentially. And also the fact that you know your family, all this stuff, like you. You do whatever you need to be, you are so much more than a football player.

[Brian]

That's it. And he said from that moment on, he looked at this guy and thought basically, like, he's saying, this guy thinks of me as a person.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Yeah.

[Brian]

And that means a lot. And that's why when other people say stuff, and look, everybody's experience with the guy is going to be a little different. Of course these guys play for him. That was something. And I had asked the question of Mitch just about Sean, and then he said, I know you didn't ask this, but he proceeded to tell that story like he wanted to tell that story. So, look, is it perfect? Is everything he does right? Does it work? No. But when you say this, it's like, don't say that about my brother. And I think that's the way they thought of him. And you used the word galvanized. I think it did. This team was together when they came out here.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Oh, absolutely. And one of the words you kept hearing, as much as we talk about Sean McDermott, that being something the team rallied around, it was also energy, energy, energy. Coming into the locker room at the end of warmups, before the team came back out for the start of the game, you heard them screaming, energy, energy, energy. And this team, there were moments where absolutely this team did lack energy and all these things, but. But at the same moment, I thought this team, it was such a huge moment for this team to be able to pull off a win. A, because what was on the line in terms of their season, but B, to be able to do it and to say to everyone, hey, we, we are still here and we support our guy in Sean McDermott.

[Brian]

Yeah. It came down to the end against Mahomes in the field goal. So tell me what it was like on the field when the Bills have the lead and then they don't.

[Jenna Cottrell]

It was incredible because so on the field, shooting the game, you can really only see through the viewfinder of the camera and, you know, you see the past. Travis Kelsey, and I was like, not good. And then you see the other pass to Kadarius, Tony. And I was like, oh. Oh, my God. The place erupts. You hear screaming fans, the cheers, the cheers. And then you. You hear, oh, there's a flag. And then the immediate reaction. And I think Bill's players were kind.

[Brian]

Of like, okay, so we're gonna put it in right here. This is what Ed Oliver said.

[Jenna Cottrell]

I love it.

[Brian]

When he saw the flag or before he saw the flag, when he saw the touchdown. This was Ed's reaction.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Oh.

[Brian]

To be honest, I still don't know what really happened. I don't know what happened. He was known for being offside at the start, Tony. Yeah.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Oh, good for him.

[Brian]

Good for him.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Great for us.

[Brian]

So, yes, in a very Ed way. Right.

[Jenna Cottrell]

It's incredible.

[Brian]

But you know what? That just kept them out of the end zone. The Bills still had to get a stop.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Yeah.

[Brian]

And they came through. And Ed was one of the leaders in that.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Yeah. I think the defensive line, you saw them get some pressure, especially late, those back to back, the last two drives of the game for the Chiefs. The Bills defense able to neutralize the threat. Von Miller did make a play.

[Brian]

Yeah, he did.

[Jenna Cottrell]

He did. But I thought, really today at Oliver, Greg Russo, early on in the game, the interception by AJ Epanessa.

[Brian]

All he does is pick off passes.

[Jenna Cottrell]

I, I look, the flash play, he obviously had the rib injury. He tried to come back, then he sat the rest of the.

[Brian]

Micah Hyde left the field.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Micah Hyde was in a lot of pain.

[Brian]

A lot of pain. And so that is a, you know, not having him on the field. Like you need Micah Hyde on the field.

[Jenna Cottrell]

They said it was a stinger, right?

[Brian]

Yeah, he. He was. He was in a lot of pain down there. So, you know, a lot of people were sending me messages on Twitter and all this defense failing in the second half. This defense did not fail in the second half.

[Jenna Cottrell]

No.

[Brian]

The offense was doing nothing. We'll talk about them in a second. But the defense had to step up for them. They found a way. They got some turnovers even though the offense didn't do anything.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Taran Johnson making a play.

[Brian]

Christian Bernard, I think, knocked the ball away.

[Jenna Cottrell]

And Christian Benford.

[Brian]

Oh, why do I say that?

[Jenna Cottrell]

Well, you're talking about Terrell Bernard. Yeah.

[Brian]

Yes, I know. I conflate the two names, but, hey.

[Jenna Cottrell]

You can say conflate, but you can't get.

[Brian]

I know. Isn't that something? But there was guys making plays, and look, you know, they held the Chiefs down like they may not Be the offense they were before. But it's still Kelsey and it's still Mahomes.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Yeah. And Kelsey had some nice plays today.

[Brian]

He did. And then, you know, by the way, T. Swift.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Yes, I saw her.

[Brian]

Where'd you see her?

[Jenna Cottrell]

I was in the stadium in the post game room setting up, and I kind of just was like. I kind of was zoning out, and then I just saw her walk by and was like, oh, my God, that was definitely Taylor Swift. And then I ran out and I saw, like, the posse of people trying to get her picture.

[Brian]

She said, hey, Jenna, how you doing?

[Jenna Cottrell]

Did you hear? Of course. Definitely. She has, like, an ethereal glow to her.

[Brian]

Yes, it's Swifty.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Catherine Fitzgerald of the Buffalo News had a great tweet that the bills are 10 when Taylor Swift is in attendance. Fact.

[Brian]

And they may get another chance. You never know. They could be back. Let's go to. Okay.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Okay. Well, what were you gonna say?

[Brian]

No, I was gonna move on to the defense, but go ahead.

[Jenna Cottrell]

No. So I think this kind of segues this same point. So we talked earlier about energy and how the Bills came out saying they wanted to emphasize energy, all these things. So they had an early start. The offense looked good. The James Cook backflip into the end zone, which my. I was like, my back hurts just looking at that, but. And then Allen obviously in for the touchdown, all this stuff. And then it felt like when you have a balloon, and it just, like slowly all. It just. Slowly just starts deflating. And I was like, oh.

[Brian]

Oh.

[Jenna Cottrell]

It. It felt inevitable that the game was going to be tied.

[Brian]

Right.

[Jenna Cottrell]

And then I was like, this is. I know how this story ends type of thing. Because the offense, when they had opportunities, it just felt.

[Brian]

It felt it did, you know? And look, Kansas City's got a really good defense.

[Jenna Cottrell]

They do, absolutely.

[Brian]

And they can put on pressure and they bring it from all different ways.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Yes. The O line was.

[Brian]

And they were struggling. This is not just the one man beating the other man. They bring pressure with different players. They bring it up the middle, they bring it with safeties, they bring it with corners. Like, it is a really good defense.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Josh was uncomfortable all day.

[Brian]

No doubt. How about the throw, let's get to the offense. How about the throw he made going to the sidelines? I mean, I asked him about it, and he's typical Josh. He's like, oh, you know, make a play, blah, blah. He's falling out of bounds, going backwards, falling out of plays, throws it to Latavius Murray, who secured the ball and ran for 15 steps before. Did you see Josh's answer to me when I asked him about it? And then he said, and Latavius made a great catch. Yeah, he kind of gave that little smile.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Yeah, okay. Yeah, that great cat.

[Brian]

They needed that.

[Jenna Cottrell]

They needed. I honestly was like, I don't know. I didn't know what the ruling.

[Brian]

Oh, they don't know. The NFL doesn't know what it catches. It was bad calls all around. I know most of you think that more against the Bills, it really ended up being.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Yeah, they got a few breaks.

[Brian]

I mean, they got the offsides call, which was clearly offsides.

[Jenna Cottrell]

It was. But they don't normally.

[Brian]

But that play was something. But Jenna, at the beginning of the game, they got this 14 nothing lead. They're moving the ball. Josh is looking good and. Yeah, man. Then. Then from that last drive before half, it just. Everything just sort of went away.

[Jenna Cottrell]

I. I've been so. Gabe Davis once again did not have. He had two targets and he had a drop. No catches in this one.

[Brian]

And what's going on with Diggs?

[Jenna Cottrell]

I. I'm. If you were to take the last couple of games. Yeah, Stefan Diggs has been not just average, but below average.

[Brian]

He dropped that one. And it was a very key play because it was right before the two minute warning, which is basically a run play. But you want to get it in Diggs's hand and he drops it and you look at that clock, you're like, oh, my God, we're still not at the two minute warning. And they didn't need to use the two.

[Jenna Cottrell]

What was it, like 206 or something? Yeah, that to me, that stretch right there, I was like, this. The clock management in terms of that. Yeah, I think like, okay, I get it. The screen pass essentially would have been a run. But. But then to have the other two passes and to be in that spot where you're like, they didn't. What are we doing?

[Brian]

Yeah, well, I, I didn't have a problem with them. They wanted to get a touchdown.

[Jenna Cottrell]

I mean, I get that, but I was like, wow, you took.

[Brian]

But they weren't using the clock and it wasn't done. So Diggs had trouble catching the ball. I thought Kincaid made some really good plays. Dawson Knox made some plays for them.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Yeah, he did.

[Brian]

You know, in the game, Deontay Hardy.

[Jenna Cottrell]

I know, huge play was like, huge play. But I was like, you. Diggs and Davis have.

[Brian]

But when that happens, somebody needs to step up for them. And Hardy made a play that's.

[Jenna Cottrell]

That's literally My point.

[Brian]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Jenna Cottrell]

I'm saying, like you needed someone to make a play and Diggs and Davis haven't been doing that. So you went to Deontay Hardy. We had a Trent Sherfield sighting today.

[Brian]

I know. And the good motion they had.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Did Khalil Shakir have a catch boy?

[Brian]

I'm not looking at the stats now. I don't remember anything. Maybe I don't remember any of them. By the way, go to Buffalo plus store because you can get your let James Cook shirt.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Yes.

[Brian]

On there. Man, he was so good early. And then they got away from a little bit. They like Murray in pass protection more. Yeah, but I. I would have liked to have seen even more Cook. I mean, Cook is a. Cook is a heck of a player.

[Jenna Cottrell]

I. I think you're starting to see. We talked about it on the Buffalo plus channel on Saturday. He was one of the guys to really key in on and I thought he has been able to impressive in some of those moments. And I thought as a pass catcher, he's really been developing. You're starting to see that even more. I was expecting him to get the ball a little bit more in the second half, but I think what you've seen so far from Cook in these last couple games, he's just. It's just about building. And I think that with continuing that the trust will continue to build from.

[Brian]

The Bills as well. Yes. And he ran a wheel route. I love the wheel route. When the back comes around, gets on the linebacker, he beats him. It's the one he should have had the touchdown.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Against the Eagles.

[Brian]

Against the Eagles, he made the catch and I love that route. And I think he can be really effective. He is more dynamic and more and more of him. But I get why, first of all, you know, they mix in other players. I get why they have Murray back there. They were guys were running free coming at Josh.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Yeah.

[Brian]

And he missed on one block. Murray did. But I think he does. And I'm sure when they look at the tape, they'll know more. I think he does a pretty good job sometimes. You got to think that's why he is on the field to help protect Josh Allen, so he doesn't get killed a thousand percent.

[Jenna Cottrell]

The dude is a bruiser. Like he's a big guy and so he offers that. Whereas obviously James Cook is not really the one you're relying on for that. I think it's. What is it? Thunder and lightning, you know, that we always talked about that. We thought it would be that with Devin Singletary and Zach Moss.

[Brian]

But with these two, I want 80% lightning, 20% thunder.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Yeah, it's fair.

[Brian]

In, in, in moments, I think that's.

[Jenna Cottrell]

That's how to win.

[Brian]

Yep. I'd say. I said I thought this was as big a win as they've had for the franchise in the regular season. Since Josh has been the quarterback, I.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Think that the goal posts have continued to move back for the scene. Like, I think for a couple years it was. It was just getting the first win in Kansas City. Then there was other big wins across the way. But yeah, this is like I, I think of when the, when the team was like establishing themselves, that win on Thanksgiving and Dallas, like games like that. But in terms of what was at stake, this game was the best.

[Brian]

Keeping the season going really is.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Yeah.

[Brian]

If you lose this game, the way it went is brutal. Keeps it alive. They get. They're in a good spot in the. They're not great, but they're in a better spot, obviously, than if you lost. And look, then they got Dallas. You know, you got that. You still got to go out west against la. You got the Patriots and then ends with the Dolphins. We have no idea what that game.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Is going to mean. Yeah, that game could mean everything. Or it could mean resting your starters. If you're Miami.

[Brian]

I want to add one thing at the end. So I'm down in the tunnel at the end of the game. Probably not where I'm supposed to be because, you know, my God, everybody's got a badge. So. And I hear about how terrible. Sometimes people say, like, we were in Philly. And, you know, I'm a little protective of Philly. Oh, they're terrible there. And then I hear about how bad. Sometimes people say in Buffalo, they do this.

[Jenna Cottrell]

I know where you're going with this. I told you this.

[Brian]

It was embarrassing in the tunnel. As. First of all, as the refs are coming off the field. Yeah, yell at the refs. You lost the game. They called something against you. People were throwing. There were bottles coming down. When I say bottles, plastic bottles filled with water coming down. Kids throwing them. People the language. Like, I'm no little. You know, I can't hear language, but I'm like, oh, my God, this is sweet Midwest Kansas City. I think they have great fans. This is a great place. It's a percentage of people. I say this all the time, but check yourself a little bit with some of the people doing. And I say it all the time, whether it's in New York or Chicago or Boston or Philly, wherever, or Buffalo. There's a percentage of people. Well, there was a percentage of them here. They should be. That group, whoever many it was, should be embarrassed at the way. Not just yelling. I mean, throwing stuff. They had to knock stuff down. Players were reacting back to the Chiefs fans. It was pretty ugly.

[Jenna Cottrell]

I told you that when we played here. We. When they played here a couple years ago. And I said. I was like, those fans, man, I get it. They're passionate. And it's not every fan, but some. Some of the things that were being said, I was like. Then I was like, oh, they won. I was like, oh, my goodness. But, yeah, it's unfortunate that some people, a minority of people, can ruin it for the majority of fans.

[Brian]

Small amount. Yeah, Very vocal. But you start throwing stuff down where the. Even the refs, whatever you think.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Were there batteries?

[Brian]

No, but it was these. But it was.

[Jenna Cottrell]

You didn't get my.

[Brian]

Yeah, it's a Philly shot. Everybody takes a shot of Philly. It was water bottles.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Water. No, I get it. That's. Yeah, yeah.

[Brian]

Coming right down, right at this tunnel right over here.

[Jenna Cottrell]

They can't see that tunnel.

[Brian]

Maybe they were throwing them at me.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Probably.

[Brian]

I mean, I was there.

[Jenna Cottrell]

That's true.

[Brian]

Could have been. Maybe it was Taylor Swift. She would never do that.

[Jenna Cottrell]

No.

[Brian]

My gosh.

[Jenna Cottrell]

No. No. I am still kind of in shock that they won this game.

[Brian]

I think they deserve to win the game.

[Jenna Cottrell]

I. I agree.

[Brian]

But you're surprised. They.

[Jenna Cottrell]

But I just felt like this whole season, it's like they would score or whatever, and then, you know, the Eagles, like, the Eagles game, it was like it slipped through their fingers. There's even, like, against, like, the Patriots. They scored late. And then I just was like. I was like, I know how this is gonna end.

[Brian]

Well, they barely held on against the Giants. They got a break at the end, like, all that stuff. But you said, now, look, very wise man, immediately after the game in Philly said to you what. Or said to everybody. Listen to me. You didn't get to hear it till later. They were going to come here and win. They said they were going to win. And then I think a lot of people got on board. And then the Bills took a little detour during the bye week with the Von Miller stuff and the McDermott stuff, and it was nonsense. But I still think, honestly, I think they're a better team than the Chiefs.

[Jenna Cottrell]

I do, too.

[Brian]

And they came here and they won, so they got that done.

[Jenna Cottrell]

And.

[Brian]

But this only keeps you going. It doesn't get it Done. But it was impressive that they got it done. Anytime you win in this place, it's impressive. And they needed it. And they got it done.

[Jenna Cottrell]

They needed it. And you know, every team around the AFC is looking at the Bills. If they're in the playoffs already and they're like, shit, we don't want to see them.

[Brian]

You don't want to be a two seed looking at the.

[Jenna Cottrell]

You don't want to see Buffalo.

[Brian]

Hey, they know they can win here and they know they can win in Miami. Those are two of the teams you could end up playing. And they won in Baltimore last year. Like, they've won in those places. You got to do it. But there's still a ways off to the playoffs. I'm jumping ahead.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Yeah.

[Brian]

But this at least gives you real.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Yes. Yes. The season. It didn't derail.

[Brian]

Yep. Good.

[Jenna Cottrell]

We were joking. Like, I was drinking my Coca Cola and Matt Beauvais said, I look like I needed a cigarette.

[Brian]

It was a rough one out here.

[Jenna Cottrell]

It was.

[Brian]

But they got it done.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Yeah. Good teams win.

[Brian]

That's it.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Yeah. All right.

[Brian]

Dan would say great teams cover.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Yeah, he would. Did they come? No.

[Brian]

Yeah. They won. They won. They were underdogs. Yeah.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Oh, that's true. That's right. I forgot. I forgot. What? Do you know what the line is next week against Dallas?

[Brian]

I think it's after the game. We don't know the final. The game Dallas wins. I still think it's going to be.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Who is Dallas win?

[Brian]

Eagles. I still think it's going to be. I think it'll probably be Bills by one or two. Like, they'll be favored at home.

[Jenna Cottrell]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Brian]

Two, three, unit. They love make it through.

[Jenna Cottrell]

I feel like two. Yeah, I could see, too. All right. For Mike. Oh, yes. Please be sure to, like, comment and subscribe for Mike. For Dan, back in the studio, I'm Jenna. Please comment in your thoughts on this game, your takeaways, and how you're feeling after. Bill's now seven and six on the season. All right.

[Brian]

You gonna keep talking?

[Jenna Cottrell]

I don't know. You were just like. Comment. Subscribe. Thanks. I'm Jenna. Bye. Oh. Presented by Buffalo Connors and Ferris. Yes, thank you.

[Brian]

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[Jenna Cottrell]

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