Bills Camp Day One. D-Line Stands out and No Drama for James Cook

Summary

Buffalo Plus Podcast Episode Summary

Episode: Bills Camp Day One: D-Line Stands Out and No Drama for James Cook
Date: July 23, 2025
Hosts: Mike Catalana, Jenna Cottrell, Dan Fetes

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Overview

Day one of Buffalo Bills training camp at St. John Fisher University brought an energized crowd, key player updates, and strong early impressions from the revamped defensive line. The Buffalo Plus team—Mike, Jenna, and Dan—delivered on-the-field insights, addressed James Cook’s contract situation, highlighted standout players, and offered insider commentary on Hard Knocks' presence at camp.

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Main Themes and Key Discussion Points

1. James Cook: No Drama, All Business

• Cook’s Presence: The day’s top story: James Cook reported to camp and fully participated, despite rumblings over contract dissatisfaction and offseason absences (00:45 – 02:57).
• Contract Situation:
  • Brandon Beane remains positive but noncommittal about Cook’s long-term future:
    • "He loves James... he paused, and he says, 'You guys have heard me say I love James.'" (01:21 - Mike)
    • Beane’s hope: "That when I’m sitting here next year at training camp, James is out here practicing, representing the red, white, and blue." (04:03 - Jenna)
  • Hosts agree Cook made the right choice showing up:
    • “I think as soon as you saw him out there...this is good...not having this be a distraction.” (01:52 - Mike)
    • Motivation: avoids fines, stays a good teammate, appeals to all 32 NFL teams.
  • Probability of Cook returning in 2026 debated:
    • Jenna: “I will go 17.8%.” (05:31)
    • Dan: “I think I’m around 15.0.” (05:36)
    • Mike: “I’m gonna go 14.9.” (05:47)

Notable Quote:

"If I was advising him... he would have done the exact thing he’s done so far...skip the nonclears, show up and work."
– Mike, (03:34)

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2. Health Updates: Dawson Knox and Spencer Brown

• Dawson Knox: Mild hamstring issue, team taking a conservative approach; not considered serious (06:02).
• Spencer Brown: Surgically-repaired back is flaring up, raising more long-term concern, especially for a lineman.
  • “Back injuries for big human beings, for anybody, is a problem...especially long term.” (06:36 – Mike)
  • Still, team and hosts seem cautiously optimistic for his return.

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3. Defensive Line: Early Standouts

• Joey Bosa:
  • Back from spring injury, full participant.
  • Revealed he's spent more time with Bills teammates this offseason than during his entire Chargers tenure:

    “These last six weeks, I’ve spent more time hanging out with my teammates than I did my whole time with the Chargers.”
    – Joey Bosa, quoted by Jenna (08:10)

  • Flashed on field, notably “blew up Ryan Vandemark” on one rep (09:18).
• TJ Sanders:
  • Dan’s “new dude of the day”: impressive power, agility, and ability to make immediate impact (10:02 – 11:13).
  • “He looked the part you were hoping to...kind of pulled [Ed] up and stretched him out.” (10:39 – Dan)
• Dion Walker:
  • Noted for sheer size and strength—“comically large," moved multiple linemen at once (11:55, 12:02).

Notable Quote:

“I’m so happy that on day one we’re talking about the D-line...the amount they have invested...it’s nice to be like, hey, there’s some guys that really jump off.”
– Jenna (13:04)

• Javon Solomon: Also flashed; nearly had a sack during a red zone rep (13:27).

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4. Practice Intensity and Memorable Moments

• Red Zone Focus: Much of practice centered on red zone drills, generating intensity and frequent celebrations from both sides (14:34).
• Taron Johnson:
  • Overzealous tackle on Khalil Shakir led to light-hearted ribbing; “If it was anybody else, they’d be running pushups." (15:02 – Dan)
  • Reminisced for tackling Josh Allen last year—“Taron just tackles everything at every time.” (15:18)
• Max Hairston:
  • Rebounded from rough start with a break-up on a slant to KJ Hamler; “Play of the day.” (15:37 – Dan)

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5. Trey White’s Return

• Fan and Team Sentiment:
  • Trey White’s homecoming delivers a “boost of energy and athleticism” beyond expectations (16:41, 18:38).
  • Brandon Beane openly rooting for him:

    “I was cheering for Trey. I caught myself cheering...He came up to me and I said, way to go, 27. Trey told me, ‘it’s good to be home.’”
    – Mike, quoting Beane (17:05)

• Role Uncertainty: Acknowledgment of his challenges (was 5th corner in Baltimore), but optimism for impact with the Bills.

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6. Safety Competition

• Open Rotation: Cole Bishop, Taylor Rapp, and Damar Hamlin all rotated with the first team (18:52).
• Position Flexibility: Safeties expected to play multiple roles—deep, box, run support (19:11 – 19:44).

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7. Offensive Observations: Pass Catchers

• Josh Palmer: Consensus “pass catcher of the day”; agile, great hands, main three-wide receiver sets alongside Shakir and Keon (20:12 – 21:01).
• Curtis Samuel & Gabe Davis Comparison:
  • Samuel made nice catches; Palmer seen as a more agile and better separator than Gabe Davis (21:26 – Mike).

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8. Hard Knocks at Camp

• Buzz and Logistics:
  • NFL Films’ presence heavily felt, adding to camp excitement.
  • Josh Allen acknowledged “extra buzz” from additional cameras, media (21:42 – 21:57).
• Massive Editing Task:
  • Fun fact: For every 1 hour of Hard Knocks, there’s 300 hours of raw footage (22:42 – Jenna quoting Pat Harris).

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9. Community and Fan Interaction

• Good Energy: Multiple shoutouts to fans, security staff, and supporters at camp; notable local enthusiasm (24:05).
• Lighthearted Moments: Ongoing banter about lost notebooks, percentage debates, and inside jokes about prior camp moments.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Mike on James Cook’s Maturity:

  “He’s speaking to the Bills and 31 other NFL teams now. He shows up and then he’ll get paid at some point.” (03:37)

• Joey Bosa's Chargers Dig:

  “I spent more time hanging out with my teammates [in Buffalo] than my whole time with the Chargers.” (08:10)

• Dan on TJ Sanders:

  “He looked the part...powerful and quick from that nose tackle position.” (10:39)

• Mike on Trey White's Homecoming:

  “I would say today I saw a lot more athleticism in Trey than I expected to see. I think he was fired up.” (18:38)

• Jenna on D-line's Promise:

  “I’m so happy that on day one, we’re talking about the D-line.” (13:04)

• Pat Harris via Jenna, on Hard Knocks:

  “For every 1 hour of video that airs for Hard Knocks, there’s 300 hours of raw video to go through.” (22:42)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:45 – 05:47: James Cook contract situation & future odds
• 06:02 – 07:12: Injury updates—Dawson Knox & Spencer Brown
• 07:22 – 12:02: D-line standouts (Bosa, TJ Sanders, Dion Walker)
• 13:04 – 15:36: Javon Solomon, intensity, red zone practice, Taron Johnson
• 16:41 – 18:38: Trey White’s return, leadership, and athleticism
• 18:52 – 19:44: Safety competition and positional flexibility
• 20:12 – 21:34: Top pass catchers: Josh Palmer, Shakir, Samuel
• 21:42 – 22:42: Hard Knocks presence and impact
• 24:05 – 25:16: Fan interactions, camp community
• 25:49 – End: Social plugs and closing thoughts

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Final Takeaways

• No contract drama for James Cook—he’s at camp and focused.
• D-line shows early promise—Bosa, Sanders, and Walker stand out.
• Red zone work and team intensity offer good early signals.
• Trey White’s return brings hope for veteran spark at corner.
• Josh Palmer emerges as a versatile, reliable receiving option.
• Hard Knocks adds energy and attention at Fisher, highlighting Bills’ unique camp culture.
• Optimism and excitement run high—not just among players and coaches, but fans and community as well.

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

I actually think right here.

[C]

Yeah, it was right here. I'm standing in the spot where Dan Fates made the Dan is right proclamation of his career.

[B]

You know what's right over there? The jugs machine.

[A]

Oh, there's the open.

[C]

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[A]

To you by comic Connors and Ferris.

[B]

All right, welcome back to the Buffalo plus podcast presented by Connors and Ferris, Mike Catalana, Dan Fates, I am Jenna Cottrell. Please be sure to, like, comment, subscribe and share. Training camp, finally. Here we are at Fisher Day number one.

[A]

Football is back.

[B]

Woo. You can feel it in the air. So many people out at Fisher today. But we gotta start with the news of the day, Michael, and that is that James Cook was here and did participate.

[C]

I think it's great. I think eventually it's going to be really good for James Cook because I think he's got to be here. I don't think holding in, holding out is going to do him any good in these circumstances. I hope he's getting good advice. He's a very good player. I don't think the door is shut on the Bills re signing him. I just don't think it's wide open. And Brandon Bean talked about that today saying, you know, they've had dialogue, but.

[A]

That he loves James.

[C]

He does say he loves James. In fact, he even paused and says, you guys have heard me say I love James. He didn't say Jimbo.

[A]

It was not a Jimbo James.

[B]

It was James.

[A]

Serious conversation.

[C]

But look, the way it is is he is their number one back as much as we like the other guys.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

He's out there practicing with his teammates. He's gonna make five point some million dollars this year and hopefully for James Cook, he plays great and he gets paid, whether it's in Buffalo or somewhere else. Gets paid a lot of money. It's the way the NFL works. No guarantees either way, but I think that's the way it's going to stay.

[A]

And I think as soon as you saw him out there and I think you looked at us and you came over and you were like, this is good. Yeah, like, like it was that thought of not having this be a distraction.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I'm not saying it was or wasn't in the offseason, but when it's a slow off season and James is posting on social media and all of these things and didn't show up to voluntary, which it is voluntary, it was a little bit of that underlying of would he show up. Like he was even asked at minicamp when he showed up, you're going to show up to training camp. And he says, why don't we just wait and see when camp gets here. So to have that and not have this be a really a story instead of just the contract negotiations, set that aside. He was here, he was practicing, everything looked fine.

[B]

I liked the move. I think it was the smart thing to do. We know he's about his money. He doesn't want to deal with fines. But he also, he could have come and held in and not practice. But I think he's been a great teammate. And I do think Brandon being talking today was saying like, you know, the conversations will continue. I don't know what they will be like. But at the same point, at least he was here. He was a good teammate. He showed up, he's putting in the work.

[C]

And let's be honest here, he's in part. And I know some of you are going to comment because you always do. He's there because he doesn't want to get fined. Well, there's part of that that's in there, right? He's not. He's. He skips training camp, he gets find a lot of money. There's no reason for him to do that. The plus for James Cook is even though I think he's still severely underpaid this year at 5 million, I think he would make more than that, certainly on the open market. He's not in the open market yet. If I was advising him and he did not ask me, he would have done the exact thing he's done so far. Skip the non clear that you are.

[A]

Unhappy with your contract and then show up and work.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

And I think that's. He's speaking to the Bills and He's speaking to 31 other NFL teams now. He shows up and then he'll get paid at some point. So let's see how it plays out.

[B]

It's nice to see that just kind of take care of itself. Now, what will the second piece look like in terms of a contract, in terms of that playing out? We don't know that yet. But I feel like today I was like, okay, this is at least a solid footing to go forward with, not having all of that hanging over your head.

[A]

I also think the other big thing that Bean had said was he's hopeful that when he's sitting here next year at training camp, James is out here practicing, representing the red, white and blue. So I thought that was. That was the most definitive him Saying like, we want him back more than before.

[C]

No, no, I think that's a good thing for him to say.

[A]

I agree.

[C]

So 0 to 100, what's the number that he's. He's on this team next summer here at camp.

[B]

I was gonna say. So my thing was what he said. I liked hopeful. I. It's. I think it was the perfect thing to say if you are Brandon Bean. Do I think it reflects how the team is approaching it? I don't know. Because I don't believe that James Cook will be on the team next season.

[C]

Correct. Right. Okay. So I think we're in agreement.

[A]

So I will go 17.8%.

[B]

See? Why are you doing fractions? Because you can't.

[A]

It's a decimal. It's not a fraction.

[B]

Well, isn't a fraction technically a decimal?

[A]

No, they're different.

[B]

Well, can they be like similar?

[C]

Well, it would be 17.8.

[A]

It's like saying six of one, half dozen the other.

[C]

Yes, I guess you're right. Yes.

[A]

Who's right?

[C]

It's 17. Both are right.

[A]

Who's right?

[C]

You're both right because it's 17.

[A]

I gave her a decimal and she said a fraction.

[C]

But it's 17.8 over a hundred.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Yes. Wow. You can tell we're communications majors.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Seriously, this is the hard hitting stuff they come to here for the Buffalo Plus YouTube channel. I would say, like comment and subscribe. Appreciate it.

[B]

I would say I'm less than 17. What I think. I think I'm around 15. That James Cook will be back next year.

[A]

15.0.

[B]

15.0. We're gonna keep it round numbers, keep it easy. So it's no fractions involved.

[C]

Or does. And I'm gonna go 14.9. All right. But the other part today was the hearing about Dawson Knox and Spencer Brown. Dawson hamstring. I don't think. Do you think it's a big deal?

[A]

No.

[B]

I mean, Brandon Bean even talked about like at later points in the season, he probably would have been out there, but because they have the time, because he's a veteran player, like, you can kind of slow play this a little bit. And I think that's. That's what you want to do. You want to be conservative about it considering where we're at in the season. Season. So it makes sense to me. I wasn't like, whoa, I'm alarmed. This is going to be a huge thing.

[A]

Totally agree with Dawson. Little bit concerned with Spencer.

[C]

I'm with you.

[A]

The back injury on a surgically repaired back flaring. Up. Don't love.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Don't love hearing that, if I'm being honest.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Now especially long term.

[C]

But I'm with you. He's not. When he's missing, he's missing reps. He's been a very good player at that right tackle spot. I don't worry about that as much. He knows the offense. Same coordinator. The whole thing with you, though, back injuries for big human beings, for anybody is a problem, but for big people, very large knots. Great. So hopefully it's. I mean, it's easy to be a little overly cautious in July.

[A]

Correct.

[C]

See where we are. Be nice to see him at some point here out there practicing. Sometimes these things, it's like, oh, Spencer Brown's cleared and he's on the practice field. I think with a back, it might take a little longer, but we'll see.

[B]

Yeah, that's fair. All right, let's get to some of our on the field observations. Is there any. Do we want to start with pass catcher of the day? Do we want to go new to the day or we want to start general.

[C]

So we did that last year with pass catcher of the day. I wanted to add this year new dude of the day, because there's a lot of new dudes on this team. Not that there weren't last year, but we were so focused on the pass catchers. So either one. Why don't you start? We'll do new due to the day.

[B]

So new due to the day for me was Joey Bosa. So I think for me, obviously had during the spring, you know, the injury, you're like, what will this look like? Sean McDermott said, in the spring it won't be an issue. But to see Joey Bosa out here on the field working with his teammates. He spoke afterwards just about feeling good, about feeling like himself and really taking the time to also now know some of these guys because of the off season and getting in the reps and all that stuff mentally. But now being able to take that onto the field and how beneficial that will be.

[A]

Great quote he had about spending time with his teammates.

[B]

Yeah. Which this was wild. So he was talking at the podium after practice and he said, the six weeks of this last part of the season and now being at training camp, he has spent more time hanging out with his teammates than he did for the entirety of his career with the Chargers.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Which you hear about culture here and how the players love to be Chargers. Catching another. But I was like just catching a stray decade. What?

[C]

Yeah. I also was thinking I was Watching Josh Palmer, who was a player on the Chargers. Chargers. And he's signing autographs.

[A]

What's up, players?

[C]

Well, he's signing autographs for fans. And I'm thinking he was so good. He had a meeting. They kept saying, you got to go, you got to go. He's like, one more. He was great. He was running over. He signed more. And I'm thinking to myself, and I mentioned to somebody, it's got to be wild for him that because he played for the Chargers, where most of their home games, more than half the crowd was for the other team. And he's here. And I thought the crowd was with it today. It was loud. Everything was loud here. People were very excited to see him. But for a guy like Joey Bosa, you brought him up, not just saying that, but flashed on the field too. Like, you see the skill that the guy has.

[B]

He blew up. Ryan Vandemark.

[C]

Yeah. Yes.

[B]

It was a. It was a great rep. And I think for him, it probably just felt good. You know, he had been holding back with the injuries, all that stuff. I think for him, he talked about just the feeling of being himself again. And for an athlete, like, he talked about how can have a little bit of like, not self pity, but just like, dang, I can't believe I'm injured again. So to be back out on the field, I think that's huge. Had those flashes of moments and then also now settling in with a new team in a new culture, in a new environment.

[C]

Dan, it started for me when he wasn't on a list. Yes, right. Like you say, they have all these lists, and it's like, would it have stunned anybody if they said Joey Bos is, you know, whatever. But it wasn't. He's out there practicing. I think that's a positive sign.

[A]

My new dude of the day, because I disagree with you guys. TJ Sanders, I thought was electric. I thought he made two plays of just throwing away whoever the right guard was that he was going up against. He looked the part that you were hoping to. To be not as big as the massive human that is Dionne Walker. Like just a mountain of a man. Insanely large human being, but he has that more of that agility. It's almost like you. You took Ed and. And kind of pulled him up and stretched him out. Like, that's. That's what it looked like with some of that power again. I try not to get too excited one way or another. Too down on a guy after one day because it was a pretty light practice.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It's tough at times. Like we. We will say it. We see at every training camp, we're not judging running plays here when there's no pads on, even when there are pads on, it's tough to really judge. But I thought he did a couple of really nice stunts. Moves looked powerful and quick from that nose tackle position that I thought was impressive. And Matt Bovet was sitting next to me and he's like, would it be crazy to say that TJ Sanders has the second most snaps for defensive tackle this year? And I was like, I don't think so.

[C]

So we were talking to him and he did say I asked a very clumsy way of the question. So it didn't really go over very well. But later he was asked about basically playing as a rookie.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And he was, you know, he should feel this way. Yeah. Like these guys are going to get every opportunity. And I don't like when I hear, first of all, we've already pushed back on that. Sean doesn't like to play rookies. If these guys can play, believe me, they are going to play. And you drafted what, six of them in this year's draft? But I think he looked that way. And I'll throw the other one in there. You talk about the human monster size wise of Dion Walker when he's out there. In one play, he pushed the entire offensive line.

[A]

Yeah. Three guys. Yeah.

[C]

So he is in a field full of big human beings.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

He's the biggest. Comically large.

[A]

Comically large was my tweet.

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[B]

So happy that on day one, we're talking about the D line. I mean that in the best way. Way possible, because there's been, yes, a lot of resources that have been put there, but I think it's good to just look, it is day one, but the amount that they have invested in this D line, it's nice to be like, hey, there's some guys that really jump off now. It's. It's a light practice, all that stuff, but you want to see that considering the amount that they have invested.

[C]

A lot of fans are going to be excited because there's a lot of people who want to see something from Javon Solomon this year. And there was a play. Well, there was a play where Reggie Gilliam scored a touchdown.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Celebrated. It's a lot of fun. He caught the ball. I think they did a little spike together. But on that play, Solomon was.

[B]

It would have been.

[C]

I mean, he easily would have had a sack on the play.

[A]

There was a touchdown earlier. I think it was to Kincaid. They did a ton of red zone today. It was a touchdown to Kincaid. They celebrated. And we're watching. The touchdown was over here. Okay. And on the far end of the field, Taron Johnson is jarring with another player. And you're like, what's going on here? He was jarring with KJ Hamler, which was hysterical almost to Taryn being like, who are you? Because there was that intensity for the practice, for the red zone. They talk about that. That's why the offense celebrates. The defense was also celebrating on every single stop. It was hilarious. And it was peak day one of training camp of the offense. The backup seventh wide receiver being like, yeah, we scored on you.

[B]

And.

[A]

And Taryn Johnson being like, yeah, okay.

[C]

All right. Since you brought up Taran, was it Shakir that he hit?

[B]

I think so. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not hit.

[C]

Yeah. Tackled him to the ground. To the ground. And. And Shakir's like, looking.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And then Sean comes over.

[A]

The classic experience. And before Sean could even walk over to him, Taran gives him the. I know, coach. I know. And he gives him just the pat on the back.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I go, if it was anybody else, they'd be running push ups. Can't do it. It was one of those things. And Taren was the guy that last year hit Josh during a roll.

[C]

Josh Allen, you know, 17, like, hit him. Not only is it training camp, he's Josh Allen and he's wearing A red jersey.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

And he.

[A]

Taryn just tackles everything at every time.

[C]

Yes. It's the way he plays.

[B]

Okay, I will say you mentioned that Dalton Cade touchdown. The catch in the end zone. Max Hairston.

[C]

Yep, yep.

[B]

I thought Harrison for me had a slower start but then finished on a high note.

[A]

Play of the day.

[C]

His play.

[A]

His play at the end, it was a slant route. He was covering on the outside with KJ Hamler. Hamler beat him to the inside Trubisky with a throw. And it was closing speed. Like what you saw about all with the draft process and this kind of closing speed was able to cut then back in front of Hamlin Hamler and knock it down.

[C]

Yeah, it's for you guys.

[A]

It's right.

[C]

You're used to. Well, I was at your point because I was.

[B]

I literally thought you were.

[C]

No, what I was going to reference was it was 10, 15 yards from us. He was right in front of us. But you are right about that speed. You can see that now. There was a play earlier. Well, run play. Josh Allen, Curtis Samuel. Great coverage. I thought by Hairston.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Better throw, better catch. That's what happens. But. But hey, he celebrated too. He should celebrate.

[A]

The entire defense did. Babbage came sprinting out over there into the end zone. It was like I said, that was the intensity for a lighter day. A lot of red zone stuff. But he wasn't the only one that had a couple nice breakups. Trey White.

[C]

Yeah, go ahead.

[B]

I love.

[A]

Go off Queen.

[B]

I love seeing Trey White back here at camp. I think for him, like he talked about how it feels like home. It was so funny. I caught a moment like right before practice started of Trey with the cameras of Hard Knocks being like, come on, let me show you this person and that person and like the personality and just the. The aura of Trae White. But to see him make some plays too, I wanted to see that. And we got to see that today.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Brandon Bean too.

[C]

Yeah. Well, he mentioned right about.

[A]

He goes, I don't try and I don't root for a side because I'm kind of just evaluating. He goes, but I'll admit I was cheering for Trey. And he goes, trey broke up a pass. And Bean goes, I caught myself cheering. And he goes, he came up to me and I said, way to go, two seven. And Trey told him it's good to be home. And he goes, I'm not going to bet against Trey White. He thinks he's going to get better. Also, we've said we have worries about what is left on the tread on Trey's tires. But I did think it was interesting because, again, he was the fifth cornerback in Baltimore. That's not great if you're expecting him to be that two or three here. Well, what's that going to be? Bean also talks about sometimes being comfortable being home brings out the best of a player, and hopefully that is what they're going to find with Trey.

[C]

Look, I'm probably. When it comes to the team, I'm probably less sentimental than you two.

[A]

She still misses Jerry Hughes.

[C]

Yeah. It's just now I see a lot of players come and go.

[B]

I'm a sentimental girl.

[C]

You are. It's like, I'm not normally. Like, even this fake news that I cried at Jenna's wedding is just bs. That's not me. But from a football perspective, I try to be more realistic about where Trey is. I sometimes try to take a bigger look and see who physically flashes on the field. Like, who's that? Because there's so many players. I would say today I saw a lot more athleticism in Trey than I expected to see.

[A]

I agree.

[C]

And I think he was fired up today. So right now he was with the ones, you know, they alternated.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But he really did. And then the other part of that was. Was just the idea of, you know, it's going to be a lot for Hairston.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

To get to that spot. But I thought Trey looked good.

[B]

You mentioned rotation. So they were rotating in Cole Bishop.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Taylor Wrap, Demar Hamlin. They kind of forest.

[C]

They were all.

[B]

Yeah. So I kind of was like, that is something to me, where it was like, okay, there was a time when it was demar and Taylor Rapp out there, not Cole Bishop. So I thought that was something that.

[C]

And I asked friend of the pod, even though they wouldn't let him be on with us, Carl Jones. And I said, what about the safeties in that case? Because Carl played Division 1 defensive back, and he's like, they got to be able to play. The days of thinking, oh, this guy's a strong safety. This guy's, you know, you need to be able to do everything. And I think they like that flexibility of saying, can you play the deep third? Can you play press in the box? Can you play that way?

[A]

Can you come run support? Yeah.

[C]

That's what they want to do. They're different players. But I do think it's interesting because they do have. While Bishop's trying to earn that spot, both Forests and certainly Demar have a lot of starts under their belt. So while it is a position, I think it was ESPN recently that listed that as the, you know, the weakest part of the team. It is a group with a lot of experience, at least. And the hope is that Bishop rises up and can be the starter.

[B]

Who is your pass catcher of the day?

[A]

For me, it was Josh Palmer. I was pleasantly surprised. Again, it was a lot of red zone. So it was a lot of quick cuts, agility, kind of throws and things like that. For a bigger guy than what I thought, pretty agile in and out of his breaks, which I liked. I thought he had really good hands. I thought I was pretty impressed by him today.

[C]

Yeah, I like the way he plays. When they were coming out again, this is very early in three wide receiver sets. It was Palmer, Shakir and Keon were those guys out there. You know, we'll see how Curtis Samuel is. I already mentioned the one nice catch he made. Let's see where he fits in in this group. But I think Josh Palmer's going to get a lot of opportunities to play all over the place in this offense because he can play on the outside for them. So. Yeah, I'll go with you on that.

[A]

For the first day, I think after watching him today, it gave me a little bit of like, how much and how often they used Gabe Davis. That's what they kind of want to have again. And I think he may not have the physicality and the run blocking, but again, I don't care how well my wide receivers run block. I want them to get open and catch the football. I thought there was some ability there that I went, ooh, that could be a fun trait.

[B]

Gabe Davis. Gabe Davis. Stray.

[C]

Stray. He's catching it.

[A]

Great run blocker.

[C]

He's also a better separator than Gabe was.

[A]

100 question.

[C]

So let's see how it plays out.

[B]

We also have to talk about Hard Knocks being here, seeing. I inadvertently matched the Hard Knocks T shirts today.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But it was cool to see NFL Films out here. You saw all the extra cameras and the equipment and the personnel, and I just thought that was. And Josh Allen even talked about how it does add that extra buzz having all that. All that media.

[C]

I was thinking how wild it's gonna be when that first episode comes on, because they are everywhere.

[B]

They really are.

[C]

They are everywhere. And, you know, you never know what they're catching. Like they were doing. You know, the cute stuff with Dion and his kids and Trey and all that. They love that kind of stuff. And by the way, they do that stuff when there's no cameras here. Like these guys are great that way, but they're catching all that stuff. But when we see and if you want to look back, Patrick Harris, who's the Penfield Rochester guy who's directing it, when they go through all those hours of teaching tape, to cut it down is going to be a lot. But I'm going to tell you one thing that's going to be a lot, I think in these shows is the fans here at Fisher because they were like I said they were awesome Today.

[B]

Pat Harris told us that for every one hour of video that airs for Hard knocks episodes, there's 300 hours of raw video to go through.

[C]

Yeah, because they go through like they'll have meeting rooms.

[A]

I have anxiety thinking about that coming from the guy that cuts a lot of this stuff.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

This is pretty.

[C]

Always making it about him.

[A]

Right here. I said Terrell Bernard would be.

[B]

I actually think right here.

[C]

Yeah, it was right here. So I want to say right now, I think Terrell Bernard is a starting linebacker on this team.

[B]

Wow, so brave of you.

[A]

Follow my.

[C]

Have you ever been to great places?

[B]

Great value?

[C]

No, I was going to say like, you know the Liberty Bell, right? You're standing right in this spot or whatever. I'm standing in the spot where Dan Fates made the Dan is right proclamation of his career.

[B]

You know, it's right over there, the jugs machine.

[C]

That there's the open.

[B]

Tts.

[A]

I walked by it cuz I couldn't find my notebook. Lost the notebook. If he find one at camp, it's mine. But I was running back from here to there and I did have one of those. I had one of those moments where I was like. I had a little PTSD where I was like oh, my face. And then my face started to hurt.

[B]

Yeah, that's fair. Oh. Cracked me up when I saw the jugs machine. We want to thank everyone who got and reached out to us who saw us today at camp.

[A]

I'm starting mug.

[C]

I'm going to start with Kelly. Yeah, well, Kelly, our good friend Kelly, she has the Buffalo plus mug. We all signed it for today. That was fun. We had Tim right here, big fan of Buffalo plus. He's one of the security people here in the middle. And Mark on the other side who's always great to us. I'm pointing a little farther down. And Mark. And Mark who. Wait a minute, I let you guys do all the pointing now I'm pointing. I let Mark find our friend Sal Mayorana's recording device. Day one at camp.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Love Dates. For Sal, it was tacos.

[C]

But he got it back. He got it back. But Mark, big fan of the. Of all of the stuff that we do. We see him every day when we're out here.

[A]

It was funny that when that Maxwell Harrison made that play, I went. I'm going to point to where it was. Like, just knowing that, like, we're going to do the pod recap would be like, it's right over there.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It was a good first day.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

I feel like this was. It's fun to be back out here.

[A]

James Cook being back. Josh Allen being Josh Allen. Nothing major to report there.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But to have Bosa out there and to have rookies seemingly making plays early, like I said, I liked TJ Sanders, Maxwell Harrison making a play. Positive signs.

[C]

Yeah, it was good.

[B]

It was great. All right, thank you so much for joining us here. Please be sure to, like, comment, subscribe and share. Reminder. You can always find the audio only version of our podcast available. Wherever you find your podcast, just check out Buffalo Plus.

[C]

And we always do content, but when we're here, if they practice, we're putting together a video, we'll recap it. And as we said later, we'll be recapping Hard Knocks as well. But we're having fun out here. We want you guys, if you haven't been or even if come to camp, to camp. We want you to get an idea of what we saw and what we heard. So we had a lot of fun.

[A]

Day one, being more active on Instagram, more active on TikTok, more YouTube shorts.

[B]

Our handle is BuffaloPlus underscore on TikTok and Instagram. So check us out. And then we all have Instagrams. Personally, like, do all the things. We appreciate it and. And we're trying to take Buffalo plus to the moon. So let's do it.

[C]

All right.

[B]

All right. For Dan and Mike, I'm Jenna. I'm going to point back at the camera. We'll see you next time on Buffalo Plus.