Bills Come Back to beat Ravens :Why they NEEDED a win like this

Summary

Buffalo Plus Podcast Episode Summary

Episode: Bills Come Back to Beat Ravens: Why They NEEDED a Win Like This
Date: October 3, 2022
Hosts: Mike Catalana, Jenna Cottrell (Dan Fetes not present)
Context: Postgame, live from BWI Airport after Bills’ 23–20 win over the Ravens

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Overview

This episode breaks down the Buffalo Bills’ comeback win over the Baltimore Ravens, focusing on the narrative that the Bills have historically struggled to win close games. The hosts—on location in an airport—dig into why this hard-fought victory was critical for the team’s psyche, the season trajectory, and establishing the Bills’ toughness and poise. Key moments, player performances, and locker-room insights are discussed with agitated energy and the candid tone fans expect from Buffalo Plus.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Overcoming the “Can’t Win Close Games” Narrative

• Early Struggles: Bills trailed 20–3 and looked “terrible” with mistakes, fumbles, drops, and poor play calling.
  • “They looked terrible. They were making mistakes, fumbles, bad play calls. Josh was not sharp and when he was, guys dropping the ball.” (Mike, 01:47)
• Turning Point Before Halftime: A key score before halftime gave hope, despite the Ravens getting the ball in the second half.
  • “You got a feeling that was huge. It’s not ideal, it’s 20–10 and Ravens get the ball to start the third quarter. But then they got the ball right back and started to work and got it tied and then made all the plays down the stretch.” (Mike, 02:01)

2. The Team’s Poise and Locker Room Atmosphere

• No Panic: Despite frustrations, the hosts observed the Bills were calm and confident—even down big.
  • “There wasn’t any panic. ... You get to know these players and you can tell when it’s like, oh my gosh, everything’s going wrong—panic, all these things. And you could just tell this team was like, hey guys, we got this.” (Jenna, 02:18)
• Halftime Mindset: The rally cry of “don’t blink” (a Von Miller mantra) echoed through the locker room, focusing on fixing self-inflicted wounds rather than schematic overhaul.
  • “They were saying don’t blink because. And that’s something Von Miller has said and he repeated to us in post game… But also the self inflicted wounds that this team had.” (Jenna, 03:12)

3. The Game’s Decisive Defensive Moment

• Pivotal Stop: After pinning the Ravens at their own 5, the Ravens marched to a goal-to-go. Matt Milano made a “massive play” that pushed Baltimore into a fourth-and-two.
  • “I’m going to say this without overstating it… It’s one of those, you look back on it and you go, that was a massive play.” (Mike, 05:16)
• Poyer’s Interception: On fourth down, heavy Bills pressure led Lamar Jackson to lob the ball into the end zone—intercepted by Jordan Poyer.
  • “Jordan Poyer comes down with it. Awesome play. He takes a big shot there, but he catches it. Said he lost his breath.”— (Mike, 06:29)
• Coaching Respect: John Harbaugh’s aggressive fourth-down choice was read by the hosts as a huge sign of respect for the Bills’ offense.
  • “That is a huge sign of respect to Josh Allen and that Bills offense…” (Mike, 06:50)

4. Clock Management and Closing Out the Win

• Improved Situational Play: The Bills’ late-game clock management and smart offensive choices showed growth.
  • “It was the example of, of using that and understanding how to manage the clock in those late game situations.” (Jenna, 07:39)
• Bass’s Winning Field Goal: The drive culminated in a Tyler Bass game-winner with the clock expiring.

5. Standout Performers and Team Depth

• Jordan Poyer: Praised for his toughness, professionalism amid contract discussions, and making “every play you could ask him to.”
  • “He’s a guy that puts his body on the line. Smart, tough, dependable. I mean, he wants more money. I understand why.” (Jenna, 08:19)
• Secondary Standouts: Dane Jackson—returning from injury—and rookie Kaiir Elam got shout-outs for their poise.
  • “Dane Jackson credit, man. That dude’s a… Out there playing this week.” (Mike, 09:09)
  • “Kair, I was very impressed by his poise.” (Jenna, 09:38)
• Matt Milano & Tremaine Edmunds: Vital in clutch moments.
• Dawson Knox: Not just as a pass catcher but as a “devastating downfield blocker.”
  • “Dawson Knox was a devastating downfield blocker once to spring Singletary, another time to spring Shakir who had his first NFL catch.” (Mike, 10:20)

6. Offensive Challenges and Allen’s Growth

• Allen’s Up-and-Down Night: Josh Allen’s game was “not sharp” at times (missed throws, mistakes), but he was “great when it counted the most.”
  • “He did not play the way he can play for stretches of that game, but when it counted the most, he was great.” (Mike, 11:34)
• Shakir’s First NFL Catch: A key moment late in the game, made more impressive due to the rainy conditions.
  • “That was not an easy catch. Slippery in terms of the rain.” (Jenna, 10:57)

7. Physicality and Earning NFL Respect

• “Finesse vs. Steak” Theme: Discussion of whether the Bills have toughness as well as flash.
  • “We always know, like, the Bills have finesse, they have the sizzle, but could they be the steak?” (Jenna, 12:12)
• Shutting Down Stars: Bills neutralized key Ravens weapons, notably Mark Andrews, echoing what they did the week prior vs. Tyreek Hill.

8. Weather and Real-Time Atmosphere

• Rain’s Impact: Jenna spent four hours in the rain (“the weather was the weather”); both noted the challenges but said it “affected the game.” (14:54)
• Live from BWI: The unique recording location added a candid, playful feel.

9. The Big Picture: Season Trajectory

• 3–1 Start Reflection: Hosts celebrated a strong first quarter of the season, acknowledging some adversity but seeing it as valuable experience.
  • “I like that they’ve had to deal with some adversity. They fought back. I don’t like some of the injuries. They’re beaten up a little. But you know what? They’re coming back from that pretty quickly.” (Mike, 18:02)
• AFC Landscape: With most teams at 2–2 or worse, the hosts noted how wide open the conference was (11:41).

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• On the “don’t blink” mantra:
  “That’s something Von Miller has said and he repeated to us in post game: ‘Don’t blink.’” (Jenna, 03:12)

• On Matt Milano’s play:
  “It’s not quite like the play Zimmer made a couple years ago against Cam, but it’s close. It’s one of those, you look back on it and you go, that was a massive play.” (Mike, 05:16)

• Jordan Poyer’s toughness:
  “He’s a guy that puts his body on the line. Smart, tough, dependable. I mean, he wants more money. I understand why.” (Jenna, 08:19)

• On Bills’ identity and respect:
  “They can blow people out, but this was a game... where you earn respect around. Like I guarantee you there are coaches that it would say, like, you know, you don’t think they would be. To be like, get these guys in a tight game.” (Mike, 12:27)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:24 — Podcast begins from BWI Airport
• 01:46 — Early game struggles, the 20–3 deficit
• 02:45 — Locker room demeanor, halftime “don’t blink” mantra
• 05:16 — Matt Milano’s pivotal play
• 06:29 — Jordan Poyer’s game-changing INT
• 07:39 — Discussion of clock management growth
• 08:19 — Poyer’s professionalism and contract situation
• 09:09 — Dane Jackson & secondary praise
• 10:20 — Dawson Knox’s blocking & Shakir’s first catch
• 11:34 — Josh Allen’s performance
• 12:12 — “Finesse vs. steak” question
• 13:29 — Field-level weather report
• 18:02 — First quarter season reflection

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Final Thoughts

• Bills proved mental and physical toughness: They came back from a deep deficit, won a tight, ugly game, and “earned respect.”
• Key leaders delivered: In adversity, veterans like Milano, Poyer, and Allen carried the team.
• Winning these games matters: The hosts stress this win could set a different tone for the rest of the season.

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Episode delivers the high-energy, insider-driven Buffalo Plus perspective—mixing sharp football analysis with the real-time quirks of postgame travel, and plenty of the camaraderie Bills fans expect.

Transcript

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All right, welcome back to the Buffalo plus podcast presented to you from bwi. We are in the airport right now getting ready to take off as we head back to Rochester. You might hear some Bills fans, you might hear some announcements going on at Mike Catalana joining me as we are wrapping up this Bills win over over the Ravens 23 20. What a game this was. We'll start with the end of that second half. Just the poise by this team. The narrative that has followed them is they can't win close games. Today they finally changed the tide of that and beat Baltimore in a come from behind win.

[A]

Yeah, it was a narrative and it was true. I mean, let's be honest. You know, this team does a lot of things well, but over this streak last year, we saw it in big, big moments and big games. There was a mistake by the coaching staff, by the defense, by Josh Allen, whatever it was, it wasn't one thing. Yes, I think they're moving a gate. It wasn't one thing, but there were several things. And then they lose the Miami game where they have the ball for 40 minutes but they made too many mistakes and they lose this game. Janet, it's not just to win the game in when it's close, it's to be down and being, I won't even say being dominated, but it was 20 to 3.

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Yeah.

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And they looked 20 terrible. They looked terrible. They were making mistakes, fumbles, bad play calls. Josh was not sharp and when he was guys dropping the ball like there were so many issues. And then they got that score before the half.

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You got a feeling that was huge.

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You got a feeling that it was like, okay, it's not ideal. It's 20 to 10 and Ravens get the ball to start the third quarter. But then they got the ball right back and started to work and got it tied and then made all the plays down the stretch.

[B]

I think we continue to see the poise from, from this team because look, I know that they've struggled in those one score games, but there wasn't any panic. You know, I walk by the bench all the time when I'm on the field shooting when it was raining for four straight hours. But that being said, there was, there was a little bit of frustration Obviously. But I could, you know, you get to know these players and you can tell when it's like, oh my gosh, like everything's going wrong, panic, all these things. And you could just tell this team was like, hey guys, we got this.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you know, when we were cutting highlights in the, during halftime, you know, our, where the media room was was right by the, the locker room for the Bills. There's a lot of Bills fans around us. And again, the talk was self inflicted wounds.

[A]

Hold on. So you could hear what they were saying in the locker room.

[B]

Yeah. I don't know if I'm actually supposed to report on this. This is why I'm a little bit scared, but.

[A]

Oh, come on. It's not like we, you know. Yeah, but what were they saying?

[B]

No, they were saying don't blink because. And that's something Von Miller has said and he repeated to us in post game of like, don't blink because Lamar is fantastic and this Ravens team can put up points. But also the self inflicted wounds that this team had. We talked about those drops earlier on those fumbles, like you said, the bad decisions, the poor execution, those types of things. And the Bills obviously knew it. And in that second half, like sometimes I think people think the 12 minutes of halftime, it's like people, the coaches are going over and you know, you're, you're changing scheme, you're doing. No, you're not. You're maybe having like an orange slice.

[A]

And guys are maybe, I hate to say it, going to the bathroom.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, this is what happens. And it is so short for a period of time. What is it, 12 minutes, basically. And they're in and they're out and they maybe hydrate a little. Like you said, some guys change a part of the uniform, change undershirt, whatever it happens to be, take their pads off, put them on.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's not, you know, Newt Rockney speech at halftime.

[B]

No, you're not, you're not changing fundamental things. But, but that's the thing about this team. It's not. They don't need to do that. They just need to play their game and play better. And I think at halftime you kind of heard that rallying cry of like, we got this. We just need to play our game.

[A]

You know, and it all comes down to, I think they know they're a better team. They knew they're a better team than the Dolphins too.

[B]

Yeah.

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But they just didn't.

[B]

They're a better team than most. Yeah.

[A]

And they didn't look like who The Bills are. Which is the super bowl favorite or super bowl contender in the second half? They did because they're on the road and they're losing. And let's go to that moment where the Bills tie the game and then they get the ball back and they end up having to punt and they punt to the five.

[B]

Yeah.

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And at that moment you're like, okay, they got the Ravens pinned. Get out of it. Three and out or make a stop. And they weren't making the stops and Lamar was making plays and the Ravens were converting and they're moving down the field and the next thing you know, they got goal to go. And Matt Milano made one of the big plays. I'm going to say this without overstating it. And when we look back, it's not quite like the play Zimmer made a couple years ago against Cam, but it's close. It's one of those. You look back on it and you go, that was a massive play.

[B]

Massive play.

[A]

Because what it did was it took them back to what, the four yard line, the three yard line. And they had fourth and two now and they decided to go for it on fourth down. Yeah, I mean, you could have taken the field goal there.

[B]

I didn't know what they were going to do. And then I was waiting to see if the field goal unit would come out on the field. Yeah, I'm like, well, it's Harbaugh. Obviously they made the decision to go for it, which I understand. You know, you have Lamar Jackson, he was effective. It felt like every time the Bills kind of had them stopped, Lamar would do some type of play, use his legs and be out there and it'd be another set of downs. But the play that Milano played, I thought Tremaine Edmonds played very well as well. Like those are. You need your guys to make plays like that. And that's what they were able to do. And Milano's like, you said that that instance, the example you have is just what this team needs and relies on and they were able to show up and that. Huge. That's huge. Because obviously it. That changed a lot this game.

[A]

So they go for it. And the Bills get immense pressure on Lamar and you know, he's in trouble, he's backpedaling.

[B]

He.

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He's in trouble and he throws it into the end zone. And not only do the Bills make a play, but Jordan Poyer comes down with it. Awesome play. He takes a big shot there, but he catches it. Said he lost his breath. I don't know.

[B]

He looked like he was in a lot of.

[A]

Yeah, he took a big shot, but he holds a ball. It's an interception. So now the Bills get it at the 20.

[B]

Yes. And I think that is huge.

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If you look at what Harbaugh decides to do for it, that is a huge sign of respect to Josh Allen and that Bill's offense because he knows if I take the field goal there, I got a kick to them and I got to defend just a field goal, let alone a touchdown to beat me. So he figures, well, we'll go for it. If we don't get it. We got him pinned at the two. It comes out to the 20. And then it was a smart, it was a drive where I heard McDermott say everybody knew, you know, we've heard communication issues with this team. Like last year in Kansas City. Everybody was on board with be smart, stay in bounds, we're going to use the clock. And they did and they took it down to the last second. Tyler Bass kicks the field goal and they win some.

[B]

Nice. Yeah, I think there's another gate change.

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We're actually not us. Right.

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We're broadcasting this live from Potbelly Sandwich Shop.

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Yes.

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I'm not kidding. BWI Airport. No, going off of that, I think you saw. It's almost. You know, we talk about how you can learn so much from a of lot loss, but that clock management at the end of the game and this, at this point, it was the Bills, you know, they had their timeouts, they had all that, but it was the example of, of using that and understanding how to manage the clock in those late game situations. But I mean, we talk so much about Milano and Tremaine and how they made big time plays. But Jordan Poyer has done everything you have asked him to do and he's a guy that puts his body on the line. Smart, tough, dependable. I mean, he wants more money. I understand why.

[A]

Well, he wants a new contract.

[B]

He wants a new contract, which I understand why.

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And he's earned it.

[B]

Never been a distraction. I give like so many other players that can become a distraction or it can be a distraction in the locker room or they can hold out, they can knock, they, they. There's so many avenues this can go down and the way Poyer has handled everything and his play on the field like that to me speaks for its.

[A]

And just there's big decisions to make. That's for another time. What you're pointing out is that you can't deny what he's done. What he's done for this Franchise what he's done this year coming back from injury and he's playing with Hamlin who's a rookie. No, not a rookie. Second, third year. No. Why am I drawing a blank on Hamlin? But he's not played and there he.

[B]

Is out there coming into a starter role.

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Starter role with Micah out. So he's there. Plus with the young corners. Give Dane Jackson credit, man. That dude's a. Out there playing this week.

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I, he was pregame, we saw him out there. I'm like, okay, he looks like he's going to play. He was still smiling from ear to ear. I, I was just like, be careful. Like I was like, oh my gosh, he's, he's going to go any. He played, he played great.

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Yeah. And, and Kyr Elam played really well.

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You know I, I always think like, I don't really want to notice.

[A]

Yeah.

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Guys in the secondary in terms of like, I don't want to be like oh, that was really bad. You know interceptions and stuff are different. But Kair, I was very impressed by his poise.

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Yeah.

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And obviously he's a player that, you know, initially we thought that he would be this starter day one type of guy and then obviously that turned out not to be the case. But the way he's handled himself and I think the game didn't seem too big for him.

[A]

No, no, he's always stayed, he's maintained.

[B]

That poise and sorry, I just also wanted to touch on some other players who sometimes maybe we don't talk about enough but Dawson Knox, in terms of on the stat sheet, I feel like he had a couple nice catches but.

[A]

He also, you know, didn't make great play on the ball on the one that was tipped early and it was interception, all that stuff but he made two great blocks. And by the way, in case anybody's listening to this and you follow third year, three year letterman on Twitter, devastating downfield blocker. Anybody who knows that Twitter account will know what I mean. Dawson Knox was a devastating downfield blocker once to spring Singletary, another time to spring Shakir who had his first NFL catch.

[B]

What a catch.

[A]

Yeah, great catch.

[B]

Late game situation on the like bring it down the field. That was not an easy catch. Slippery in terms of the rain.

[A]

And Knox made that catch too on the, when the rollout by Josh. That was probably Josh's best all around play. He ran the ball well. He was a little, you know it's funny, I tweeted a couple times about, you know, Josh missed on a couple of Throws. He fired the ball over the middle once to Crowder, by the way. Crowder's hurt. We don't know right now how bad that is. But, you know, Josh makes mistakes, too. And we talked about this before. The bar is high for Josh.

[B]

Yeah.

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And he did not play the way he can play for stretches of that game, but when it counted the most, he was great.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, 20 unanswered points.

[A]

Yeah. And now when you look at the standings, Jenna, they're 3 and 1, and the Dolphins are 3 and 1 after their loss. And basically. And as we're recording this, we don't know what the Chiefs are doing, but everybody else in the conference is 2 and 2 or less. Just kind of crazy how fast it's been. So basically, everybody's alive.

[B]

Yeah. Yes.

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Everybody is alive. It's not like somebody's buried or somebody's running away.

[B]

Yeah.

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But that's a big win for this team. Very big win.

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Well, and it's a physical win and a tough win and a situation where we always know, like, the Bills have finesse, they have the sizzle, but could they be the stake?

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Yeah. Oh, yes.

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I'm not hungry, actually.

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I do like that phrase, though.

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I do love that.

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Well, they can blow people out, but this was a game, you know, where you earn respect around. Like, I guarantee you there are coaches that it would say, like, you know, you don't think they would be. To be like, get these guys in a tight game.

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Yeah.

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You know.

[B]

Yeah.

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And you. You think, not the Bills, but.

[B]

Yeah.

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If you're going to get your team incentivized and saying, we can win this, you say, hang in the game for a while. They haven't made those plays.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, now they showed that toughness. They showed that fire. And you know what else I was thinking? Last week, you got Tyreek Hill. You're dealing with. They pretty much shut him down with all these changes. And this week, Mark Andrews made a few plays, but he was not the dominating force that he's been. He had one big catch in the second half, but he wasn't a dominant player in this game.

[B]

No.

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Give Leslie a lot of credit, man, for that defense with all the changes.

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What a delightful man. Also just. Just a delight.

[A]

Okay, I think we're gonna wrap this up one here in a minute because we gotta get on the plane here in a second. We have to talk two things. You were down on the field.

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Okay.

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So weather wise.

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Yeah.

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How was it?

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A quick aside before we start, just to really paint the picture for Everyone, we're sitting at a high top table.

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It's a closed restaurant. At least I think it was.

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A million people around us.

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Yeah.

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And Mike and I are talking into a microphone. I've never felt more like losers.

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No, no, no. People. This guy just walked by, he was smiling, he was like, I feel. They know. Excuse me.

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Handheld mics.

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They know. It is the Buffalo plus podcast also. They're also brought to you by Connors.

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And we went to Chili's for our post game dinner. And the woman looked at me, she's like, do you need a water? Okay.

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This has been fun.

[B]

Yes. Because I was outside in the rain four hours.

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Yeah.

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Here's the thing. I knew it was gonna rain. Like, was it? The first half was tolerable pregame. I was like, let's just start the game now.

[A]

So give your best, Sean McDermott. What'd you say?

[B]

I said, the weather is the weather. I remember one time he was asked that about the schedule. You know, you got a tough stretch here. He's like, the schedule is the schedule. Honestly, we're just coming over.

[A]

We're just in the middle of the podcast here, so we're just recording. Do you guys enjoy the game?

[B]

Yeah.

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That's it. See? See? They're everywhere. Look at that. See, the weather was the weather.

[B]

You hung in there was the weather. It was. Again, the first half wasn't as bad as the second half. Then in the second half, like, it got. It got pretty crazy, but it wasn't. It's what we knew it would be. Yeah, it did affect the game.

[A]

Yeah, well, you've been down there for worse. Okay, let's get to the next step. The food. We always talk about the food. Yes, we do. Upstairs pretty good. Not la.

[B]

No.

[A]

They actually had crab cakes and I made a rookie mistake. They were hidden towards the side and I never touched them.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Chicken finger. You would be worried about crab cakes at a stadium. Yeah, they make them every week. It's Baltimore.

[B]

I'm particular about my crab cakes. Yeah. Or just seafood in general.

[A]

How did we never have crab cakes on this trip?

[B]

I know. Well, we didn't eat our dinner till on Saturday till like 10:30 at night.

[A]

Yeah, because Jenna couldn't get us a table. She's losing her touch ever since she hit 30. What was the food downstairs?

[B]

This is so gross. I think I told.

[A]

Oh, yeah, go through your litany of food.

[B]

So today I've. What time is it now? I don't know.

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It's closing in on 9:30 9:15, so.

[B]

PM this morning I had a turkey bacon Starbucks sandwich in Starbucks Fresh.

[A]

They were only made, like, a month ago.

[B]

And then I went to the stadium, and I had a bagel with butter, and I put bacon on it.

[A]

And then.

[B]

And then at halftime, I had a hot dog.

[A]

Okay. Good, healthy hot dog.

[B]

And then you brought me a Milky Way post game.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Mike always is very good to me.

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I'll find candy.

[B]

Say especially that's the way to my heart is candy. And especially if I've had to be outside in the elements for a long time.

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And then we went to Chili's, and you had.

[B]

I got a mech like a Mexican chicken bowl.

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So all healthy food this weekend got.

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Into this gate, and I decided to buy Reese's Cups.

[A]

Yeah. Were they, like the knockoff cups?

[B]

They were the quest ones. So I tried to convince myself that they were better for me.

[A]

Gotta go if you're gonna go.

[B]

I didn't finish them.

[A]

I was like, what am I doing that tells you. Didn't I get you another candy bar?

[B]

You did. You got me a Hershey's with almonds. But I like putting that in the freezer, so I.

[A]

She's saving this.

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Tomorrow, everyone's gonna know my secrets. All right. All right. Yeah. We're gonna wrap up here.

[A]

We're gonna see more Bills. I still. They're over there yelling, hey, this is way better than it was.

[B]

I say, this is joyful. Yelling.

[A]

Oh, that was an Eagles fan. I think he just said 4 0, baby. No, but it's just funny.

[B]

Well, I was. I know. You don't know him.

[A]

I know a lot of them.

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Okay, well, thank you for joining us. Please be sure to, like, comment and subscribe.

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Oh, here we go. They're singing.

[B]

I hear it.

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It didn't catch on.

[B]

No.

[A]

Yeah. By the way, if you start the Bill's songs or chants and they don't catch on, just bail right away. It's a bad sound.

[B]

Bad luck immediately.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All right, now it's quiet. Right. As we're ready to wrap up.

[A]

I know they know we're done.

[B]

Exactly. I was gonna ask you one more thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Legitimate. I know it's 17 game regular season.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But four games done, right? Those are three and one. What do you make of the first quarter? Ish. Of the year.

[A]

I like that they've had to deal with some adversity. They fought back. I don't like some of the injuries. They're beaten up a little. But you know what? They're coming back from that pretty quickly. That bye week. Is looming. Trey White can be back on the practice field this week. A lot of things on the positive side. And, you know, the Patriots lost again, so.

[B]

Yeah. Bottom of the AFC East.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, they're not a good team. They're not the challengers.

[B]

I know. It's just weird.

[A]

Miami is to whatever level, just weird. It is. But, no, I like where they are. I like that they had to fight through the month. And you know What? You go three and one every month. You're 12 and four with the last game left. So you. I mean, that's.

[B]

That's.

[A]

You take. If I said to you right now, 12 and 4 with a game left, you'd take it?

[B]

Yeah, absolutely.

[A]

Get 13 wins, which is what I predicted. So let's see.

[B]

All right, cool. Thank you for joining us. Please be sure to, like, comment and subscribe, and I'm sure we'll see plenty more of you.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Out here. We always appreciate it. And thank you so much for Mike and Dan or dance in the studio. I did. I just call myself Dan again. Dang it, Dan it. I'm Jenna, to be clear. Thank you. And we'll catch you next time. And hopefully we won't be in an airport. So thanks for listening. We'll see you on Buffalo Plus.