Bills MOCK DRAFT, who we LOVE for Buffalo

Summary

Buffalo Plus Podcast: Bills MOCK DRAFT, Who We LOVE for Buffalo

Date: April 17, 2025
Hosts: Mike Catalana, Jenna Cottrell (remote), Dan Fetes
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Episode Overview

This episode delivers a deep dive into the Buffalo Bills' upcoming NFL Draft strategy, featuring Mike Catalana’s detailed mock draft, expansive discussion of draft needs (especially at cornerback and defensive tackle), and lively debate about value and fit for various prospects. The crew previews the team’s draft week coverage, debates trade-up vs. trade-down scenarios, and evaluates day three draft gems. The tone is a blend of humor, insider insight, and analytical nerding-out—the trio’s signature style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Veteran Cornerback Visit & “Setting the Floor” (02:17–06:03)

• The Bills brought in veteran CB James Bradberry for a visit—a move seen as due diligence, not a solution.
• Main Insight: Teams "set the floor" by signing experienced vets, creating roster flexibility but not restricting draft choices.
  • “You bring veterans like this in now, it's like Dane Jackson…sets you up to draft a corner.” – Mike (03:31)
• Jenna: Reminds listeners not to overreact to these visits during roster build-up to 90-man camp:
  • “That doesn't mean or deter you from what you're going to do in the draft.” (05:04)

2. Draft Strategy: Trade-Backs, Needs, and Mock Draft Variance (06:28–14:12)

• Late 1st round uncertainty: This year's draft has unusual “openness” for the Bills (possible picks: CB, S, WR, DT, DE).
  • “Do you remember... it being so wide open with a pick of what direction they could go in?” – Jenna (15:14)
• Mike predicts Brandon Beane might trade back from pick 30, depending on how the board falls.
  • “I think they're going to pick on Friday...I think they're going to trade back.” – Mike (16:49)
• Trade-back logic: More picks in rounds 2 & 3, particularly if a QB-needy team wants to jump back into round 1.
  • “Just trade back, that's easier said than done.” – Dan (11:39)

3. Key Mock Draft Picks (17:26–38:51)

First Two Rounds:

• Trey Amos, CB, Alabama projected at pick 36 after a trade-back
  • “I have them taking cornerback Trey Amos...played in the SEC, played against top competition and I think he's. He would be the type of player they would want.” – Mike (18:32)
  • Both Mike and Dan LOVE Amos as a fit.
  • Dan’s concern:
    • “Is the six picks worth the risk...what if then somebody swoops up at 33 and takes Amos?” (21:22)
  • Tiresome of prospects lacking size or run support—Bills prefer “bigger” or more physical corners.
• Darius Alexander, DT, Toledo at pick 56
  • “Darius Alexander is there at 56. ... Production wise, he did not dominate at Toledo... But Greg Cosell... just raved about the skill set.” – Mike (23:14)
  • Note: Both Dan and Mike select Amos and Alexander—the only difference is trade mechanics.

Additional Early Picks:

• Jaden Higgins, WR, Iowa State at 62 (Mike’s mock)
  • “He is physical. He's fat. ... goes up and gets the ball. ... plays on the outside and I scream: That seems like a Buffalo Bill.” – Mike (28:45)
• Xavier Watts, S, Notre Dame mentioned as possible late second-round pick (Dan’s alt)
  • “Too good of a player that if he is on the board at the end of the second round to pass up.” – Dan (33:32)

4. Draft Philosophy: Instincts vs. Athleticism (39:25–43:43)

• Jenna:
  • “I think instincts are more important [than athleticism]. … What they've been able to do with guys that do have better instincts has been more impressive.” (40:03)
• Mike: Agrees the Bills value smarts, communication, and trust, particularly in the secondary.
• Dan:
  • “I'd like them to have that freakish athletic ability to make up for their lack of instincts.” (41:08)
• All agree: Best-case is players with both, but instincts/fit matter most in Buffalo’s system.

5. Day 3 & Sleeper Picks (44:08–50:44)

• Favorite mid/late picks:
  • Dorian Strong, CB (convert to S), Virginia Tech: Physical traits; possible Poyer-like conversion.
  • Ty Robinson, DT, Nebraska: Run-stuffer, wrestler—fits McDermott's grit mold.
  • Maliki Matavayo, TE, UCLA: Not a receiver, but a blocking specialist.
  • Jeremy Crawshaw, P, Florida: Australian punter with “incredible mustache.”
  • Brew McCoy & Isaac Tesla, WRs: Big, physical, developmental wideouts (Tesla: converted QB, D-III roots).
• Draft themes: Take “swings” on athletic/developmental size-speed prospects at WR and in the secondary.

6. Trade-Up Candidates and First-Round “Big Swing” Names (51:46–53:54)

• Unlikely to trade up, but wild-card targets could be:
  • Shemar Stewart, Edge, Texas A&M: Freak athlete with low production but big upside.
  • Walter Nolan, DT, Mississippi: Productive, projected anywhere from mid-first to early second.
  • “If the draft could fall in a way... you make a move because you think he's a difference maker?” – Mike (53:23)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On evaluating the mock draft:

  • “How would you grade yourself before you get into the mock draft?” – Dan (07:54)
  • “I'll say A minus.” – Mike (08:44)
  • “B plus, Buffalo plus.” – Mike (08:49)

• On fan overreaction to Bradberry visit:

  • “Chill. ... He may very well sign. ... But just chill a little bit. It doesn't mean that.” – Mike (06:02)

• On evaluating college prospects’ projections:

  • “I think there's 450 players who are projected to go in the first round and there's not that many picks, is there?” – Mike (09:28)

• On the mock draft madness:

  • “I am deep in mock draft simulators. ... I have done the work two-for-three rounds.” – Dan (06:54)

• On importance of instincts on defense:

  • “I think being a freak athlete is is important, but I think instincts are more important.” – Jenna (40:03)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:17] – James Bradberry visit analysis, “setting the floor,” veteran roster building
• [06:28] – Draft strategy, player visits, and trade talk
• [07:54] – Mike Catalana’s self-grade on his mock draft
• [17:26] – Start of detailed mock picks: Trade-down, Trey Amos at CB
• [23:11] – Darius Alexander at DT, production/fit debate
• [28:13] – Trading up and taking Jaden Higgins at WR
• [33:30] – Xavier Watts, safety value in round two
• [39:25] – Debate: instincts vs. athleticism in Bill's defensive philosophy
• [44:08] – Day three/sleeper pick discussion
• [51:46] – "Big swing" first-round trade-up targets (Stewart, Nolan)
• [54:09] – Summing up the likelihood of trading down

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Tone, Chemistry, and Listener Engagement

• Playful jabs over social-media “unfollows” and mock draft hubris
• Listeners are encouraged to comment with their preferred Bills draft strategies
• Emphasis on the chaos, unpredictability, and fun of draft season
  • “We're all in the same diva, Dan.” – Jenna (07:52)
• Running theme: There's no clear, consensus “right answer” this year
• “I have lost track of the people that have visited Buffalo.” – Dan (06:28)

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Final Takeaways

• Bills draft plans are wide open: There’s broad consensus that anything could happen, with positional focus on CB and DT, but wild cards at WR, S, Edge, and even RB on day two.
• Buffalo’s ideal additions: Instinctive, athletic, and versatile prospects who can contribute early but also develop—especially in the secondary and trenches.
• Trade-down is the popular scenario: Both for maximizing draft capital and fitting the unpredictable nature of late round one.
• Fan advice: Enjoy the confusion and debate, and trust that Beane and McDermott will value fit, trust, and communication—even more than raw testing numbers.
• Podcast team’s spirit: Insights, jokes, and an open call to the audience to weigh in.

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“This draft to me is fascinating because listen, you guys all know, you look around and you see where players are projected to go. … So you're going to see so many times, 'We stole this guy in the third round, he was projected as a one.' ... That's going to happen."
— Mike Catalana [09:26]

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Transcript

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We'Ve done it differently.

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But Jenna, we, we've agreed on the first two.

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That makes me scared.

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That's very scary.

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All right.

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That is very scary.

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There's the open. This is the Buffalo plus podcast brought to you by Connors and Ferris. Hey everyone. Welcome back to the Buffalo plus podcast presented by Connors and Ferris. Mike Catalana, I'm Dan Fates. Jenna Cottrell is remote spending time with some family. We're going to get into Mike's mock draft which he's very excited about. We also Mike has to teach some listeners to calm down and put some things into perspective.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

We also have our credit to me, all of that and more. Please be sure to like, comment and subscribe. We have tons of content also right now because some people don't make it all the way to the end of the videos. We will be live.

[B]

Yes.

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For the NFL draft upcoming on Wednesday.

[B]

So here's our plan. Wednesday, 7 o' clock Eastern Time. We'll be live to preview the draft. Take your questions. Everybody get ready for Thursday. And then our plan is to be live and keep up to date on the channel. We want to be live on a little bit before on Thursday and Friday when the Bills are on the clock. So you can join us. We'll do it. Hey, you never know what Bean's going to do. We may make a move up or down. We'll be on there plenty of time before the pick. Instant reaction to the picks and of course, as always, we'll be wrapping everything up. So a lot of live potting going on on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday and then a wrap up pot on Saturday.

[C]

As well as on Tuesday. We are expected to hear from Brandon Bean.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

As well as Josh Allen as the team has their organized team workouts, things like that. So we have tons of content. I know people have been asking for it. So we will have tons of content coming next week. Okay. First, Mike, the Bills brought in a veteran cornerback for a visit. Yeah, but Tell everybody, chill out, bro.

[B]

Well, it's because people react. It's James Bradbury who in 2022 with the Eagles made second team All Pro. He was really good. Played in the Super Bowl. You may remember that he had the holding call against the Chiefs that basically ended that Super Bowl. Okay. But he had a great year. The next year he came back, was not good. They had a mess of a defense, was not good. And then he got hurt and Achilles thought he was going to be out a while. They basically kept him on IR all year. The reason I wanted to bring it up is Bill's brought him in for a visit. He's a good, solid veteran who has actually been maybe transitioning a little bit to safety or could play it that way. I see people reacting like this isn't going to work. Is this their plan? They need another corner. You bring veterans like this in now, it's like Dane Jackson.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Dane knows the defense.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

James Bradbury's been around. He's got a connection. He was with Carolina.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Before when he came into the league. He's 31 years old. He used to play for the Giants, too. These are the kind of players you bring in to protect yourself. And I think our friend Chris Tripasso, friend of the pod, said it's basically setting the floor. Floor for what you'd say if he's got to play, he plays that type of player and it sets you up to draft a corner.

[C]

Well, I was also saying too, it's the fact of this is the time you do your homework on veteran corners because the Bills need a corner in the draft and if the board falls a certain way, what is your worst case scenario? So you probably already know what Rasul Douglas is. You've probably spoke to him. We, I think we've mentioned. I don't know if it was on the pot or not, but there's probably been conversations with Rasool wanting to play, wanting to be a starter, and at the point of it saying, hey, I'll meet up with you guys after the draft. Like, if you guys take somebody the first round, I don't want to go there and be the third corner. So they're all doing their homework. And James Bradbury is a prime example of, hey, what has he got left? So that if so and so falls and this doesn't work out or this guy gets taken off the board, I think this is the homework that you do. But to your point, this is not some overreaction of. Bradbury is going to be CB2, like really that's what the Bills are doing. Jenna.

[A]

I feel like that's something you have to keep in mind with this time of year. Of like, yeah, they're going to sign a lot of guys. Like, think of the training camp rosters. 90 guys. Like, you're, you're gonna have so many extra bodies. So, yeah, like Chris, Chris Trapasso said, you're setting the floor of what a corner can look like in your defense. A guy with a ton of experience, what does he have left in the tank? And to me it's like, okay, that's, that's, that's a nice signing. That's a fine signing. But that doesn't mean or deter you from what you're going to do in the draft, how you're going to look at corner in terms of that. So it's like, I don't think there needs to be that overreaction of. This is. I can't believe they're doing this. This is just, it's. I. That's all they're gonna do. It's like, no, yeah. Just remember that 90 guys is a lot and there's gonna be plenty. I think of like the Chase Claypools. Last year, when the Bills needed a bunch of wide receivers, they signed Chase Claypool. Did he ever play for the Bills?

[B]

No.

[C]

They signed Chase Claypool. That was a fact. That is a fact, Jetta.

[B]

But you look at who he is and what he's done and Brad Barry is a player. I think the Bills are big on trust, especially at cornerback. He's a smart player. He's been around the league. He's played at a high level.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know if he's there anymore. First of all, they haven't signed him yet. They brought him in for a visit. He may very well sign. I. To Dan's point, I don't think any of this happens till after the draft anyhow. And they start putting together their off season thing. But just chill a little bit. It doesn't mean that.

[C]

Chill.

[B]

Whoever comes in, I can tell you this. You know who's starting at one side on corner right? Benford. You pay him, he's starting. We all know that the other side, it's wide open.

[C]

I'll say this too, obviously, as we're getting closer to the draft just about a week away, all these things. I have lost track of the people that have visited Buffalo. I have lost track of the virtual zooms they have had with prospects. My head is spinning, Jenna, trying to keep track of, oh, that guy. Come Here. Was that an official visit? Did he post on his Instagram? Like, I'm. Now that being said, I am deep in mock draft simulators.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I am. I'm in deep. I have done the work two for three rounds.

[A]

Two things. One, I hate that. Now we're, like, looking on guys social media to be like, oh, did they tag one Bill's drive? Because that's just the sign of the times. And then also, I'm going to be honest, last week when we were doing mock drafts, I was like, you know what? Let me try this. Like, chat GPT. Let's see, like, how they would assess what the bill should do do. Guys, I just want to let you know, in the first round, the Bills ended up taking Zay Flowers, so. Oh, so not exactly the technology.

[B]

Yeah. What a steal. By the way, just so you guys know, I was mad at the two of you one time, and for a short period of time, I stopped following Buffalo plus on Instagram. Yeah.

[A]

Did you remove all your tag photos?

[B]

Yes, that's exactly what they did.

[C]

That makes a lot of sense.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. But I'm back now. I'm following. Yeah. I appreciate it. Good.

[C]

Yeah. The new contract was pretty good for Catalano, so that we're all.

[A]

We're all in the same diva, Dan.

[B]

That's it.

[C]

Okay, so Mike has been chomping at the bit.

[B]

Right.

[C]

For a long time here, Jenna. We. We've been getting the text messages about how excited he is about this mock draft and what he's going to do. So that was the big point of this pod. I also have at least days one and two mapped out and then some names for day three. I was wondering, Mike, how would you grade yourself before we even get into the mock draft? How would Mike Catalana, who Brandon Bean should listen to because you've been pretty. You were spot on with Brian Thomas.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And the year before it was two years before it was Kyle Hamilton.

[B]

You were all. Yeah, now that one I give him a break on. Hamilton went a little earlier. You had to be. Would. Had to be pretty aggressive.

[C]

But we know. We know Bean watches Buffalo plus. So how would you grade yourself before you get into the picks and the viewers will comment in?

[B]

I'll say A minus.

[C]

That's very.

[A]

Wow. You're not gonna go B plus.

[B]

That's true. Oh, man, I should have thought. See, there's the layout. All right, so it's a B plus, Buffalo plus.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Hey, look, it's easy to sit here and make the picks, but I do think because of where the Bills draft, it puts you in a spot. And, and I do think he was in a spot last year. Maybe it was contract wise. Whatever the reason, he was trying to get his butt out of round one. There's no question. And I think that put him in a tough spot. The decisions they made, I didn't agree with, but I'm looking at it more in a, in a vacuum than I think he is as the general manager. So Brandon, I'll, I'll give you a little bit of that. He's got to look at it in a different way.

[C]

Get him back on the patio.

[B]

That's it. Say, but this draft to me is fascinating because listen, you guys all know, you look around and you see where players are projected to go. I think there's 450 players who are projected to go in the first round and there's not that many picks, is there?

[C]

There's not.

[B]

There isn't that many.

[C]

There's not.

[B]

So you are going to see so many times we stole this guy in the third round. He was projected as a one, got this guy late, second, can't believe he was on the board. That's going to happen because. Well, first of all, everybody looks at it differently. There are a lot of people who analyze the draft.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

And even the people who've been in the league and have done it multip multiple times, many times look at players very differently. And some of the really good ones will say, I evaluate the player, I'm not evaluating them as a scheme fit with a team.

[C]

Absolutely.

[B]

And some mock drafts are team related. Like they really look at it the way they believe a team would react that way. And I'm not just talking about something as simple as saying they need a quarterback, they're going to take a quarterback. I'm saying like a safety, a corner, a defensive end. Like, what does that team need?

[C]

And Jenna, a lot of those people that project the drafts are not in the building.

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Yes, the building.

[C]

So that's also a tricky part of it too. I'm fascinated by this draft because looking around, there are so many different people that have mocked so many different players, positions, all of that to the Bills in the first two rounds. Like that is what blows my mind is that there was before it'd be a consensus of the Bills have to, they're going to take a wide receiver. Right. It was just a matter of who they liked and how the rest of the board fell. This time it's their, you know, safety, corner, defensive tackle, edge, rusher. Like all of that and wide receiver and wide receiver. So that to me and Mike, to your point, like, I think Bean is also like that adjustment of like drafting at the end. Like, my big thing in this draft is everybody's been like, well, just trade back. Like, that's easier said than done. Because Jenna, we've talked about it. Like, oh, you just, you just trade. You just, you. You force the team to make the trade and accept what you want. Like, and we will also hear on draft night or after the draft, we took a lot of calls. We, we took a ton of calls. That's not always the case where, like, other teams may also want to trade back at the end of the first round. So teams are. There's a ton of juggling that goes on late in the round where I go, I don't know how easy it is in theory for the Bills to just be like, well, we want to get out of the. We want to get out of the first round.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You need a team that's going to want that investment. And again, especially where the quarterbacks fall now, Jackson Dart could be the second quarterback. Jumping Shador. Like, all of this dynamic is into play. I really have no idea what the Bills will do in the first round. I go, I know. I think they'll take a lot. I think they'll make a lot of picks in the second round, whether that's two or more. But I'm fascinated to see what happens at the end of this first round. I'm about you, Jenna.

[A]

I, I feel like for me, one rule is don't trade with the Kansas City Chiefs. I feel like, be like maybe like boilerplate moving forward. We don't have to start the saga. That is what happened last year. But I do think the quarterback thing is that's going to be the biggest thing. Is a guy or is a team going to want to get back into the first round to draft a quarterback with, you know, whatever, and then the Bills have the opportunity to move back. I think that's probably the best scenario for them in terms of being able to trade out and find a trade partner.

[C]

Yeah, I agree. Like, there is so much chaos.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

At the end of this first round because to Jen's point, like I said, I've seen quarterbacks climb all over the place and fall all over the place.

[B]

Right. Here's one thing I would say. I do think this year at pick 30, if you can wrap your head around saying you do not mind taking that player with the first round pick, which is a higher salary and it's the fifth year option and all those things that go with it. I do believe there is going to be players they want now he will tell us. I can almost guarantee a Brandon will say I don't, I don't know how many. You know, how was first round? I didn't tell you. I don't have 32. That's what he will tell you. Yeah, but I think when you get to that point there are players and I'll name a few, everybody. Kenneth Grant, Michigan. Yeah, I think he's going to be on the board.

[C]

I don't think so.

[B]

I think there's a very good chance he's on the board.

[A]

It's just so hard because there's so many players that have been the range I feel like for first rounders has been all over the place.

[B]

Yes, but he's the type of player the reason I think he might still be on the board, I think he's projected as a really good run stuffing defensive lineman that will eventually emerge into a pass rusher. Not everybody wants to grab that guy early in the draft. I mean you have to be a real disruptor early in the draft at defensive tackle. If you look at the kind of guys who go higher then you start getting into that mode. I mean a guy like Maxwell Harrison to Kentucky, some people have him in the teens and then sometimes it depends again what a team is looking for. It will, it will matter where they are. They may have, this is just an example. They may have a first round grade on him and two other corners. They do not that we think they might be interested in that they don't have a first round pick in. So those are the kind of players that I think sitting there at 30 you say they would just sit there and take them but I don't, you know, we don't know until it gets to that point.

[A]

I, I have a question. In years past, do you remember like Dan, you mentioned how the Bills could go corner, they could go safety, they could go wide receiver, they could go D tackle, they could go edge. Like do you remember in years past it being so wide open with a pick of what direction they could go in? I'm trying to think.

[B]

Only when they were bad. Well, I mean Josh Allen when they needed everything that you could have said. Yes, I remember we used to joke and say they can't take the best available player because they need everything. Yeah, they did.

[C]

But it's been, it's been a while.

[B]

Yeah because you know it's been where you've looked at corner it seems to have always been something on the defensive line they've looked at.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Has been the case. I think it's in part, you know, they've done a nice job on the offensive line. They have their quarterback. They had been good at corner. They had been set at safety.

[C]

I have a question.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

To answer to Jenna's question. Well, it's a question to Jenna's question.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Is being gun. The history. Is being at all gun shy, pulling the trigger on a corner or another defensive lineman in the first round because of the recent lack of success in that spot?

[A]

No.

[B]

No.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Now I think if I would hope not. Yeah.

[C]

Okay. What do you say?

[B]

It's like on the golf course. He's not scared.

[C]

Call me a lot of things. Scared ain't one of them.

[B]

All right. Do you want me to go into.

[C]

I want this. I want this bad.

[B]

So I don't want to depress people because I know they're going to be sitting there on Thursday and going, when do we pick? When do we pick? When do we pick for your Bills? And I think they're going to pick on Friday or. Yes, on Friday. I think they're going to trade back. And here's the pick I have for now. Listen, that I am sitting here saying, I think just like with Brandon Bean, he's going to sit there and go, if this guy is falling and it is players he really feels that highly about, I think he would make a move or stay where he is and feel like somebody falls to him. Right. And I think a guy like Grant fits that profile.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

You never know. Somebody could love him at 18 and there he is. He's gone. Here's where I got him going 30 to 36 with the Jaguars. And the reason I have him doing that is, is the Jags get that pick and the bills send them 132, which is their fourth, second, fourth rounder. In exchange, the bills go back to 36, obviously, and they get 88 a third rounder. So if you look at the numbers, that works. So now you're talking about being 36, 56, 62 and 88. I think it's a fair deal. I think Jacksonville moves up, gets a second pick in the first round. Jags could be in the market for a quarterback, too. You never know. There has been multiple rumors about them eventually trading their number one guy. And you never know when a team's going to say, hey, wow, that is.

[C]

That is as hot of a Catalan to take as I have heard.

[B]

Did not the Philadelphia Eagles do that. When they took Jalen Hurts.

[C]

They didn't pay the other guy a massive.

[B]

I mean, Hertz was.

[C]

Yeah, wins was.

[B]

They did pay him.

[A]

Yes. But that was.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I'm just throwing that out there. It doesn't have to be for a quarterback that is hot. It is a. Believe me, if a team can get a quarterback and think they have them and get them in that kind of circumstance, especially if it was a guy like Milro who's going to take a little while to come around. But regardless of what they do, the numbers work out. The Bills move back with pick 36. I have them taking cornerback Trey Amos or I believe Terry Terry, as Dan called him in the last podcast. I think he fits for them. 611 95. I think he's played in the SEC, played against top competition and I think he's. He would be the type of player they would want.

[C]

So.

[A]

I loved him. Right.

[C]

I love this one. Okay, so I have the Bills staying put at 30.

[B]

Could be.

[C]

So I have the bill staying put at 30. I think Grant goes off the board early. I saw a couple mocks had him going to Pittsburgh. They could be revamping their defensive line if they don't go quarterback. That could be an option for them. So if Grant goes there, that's the one defensive tackle that I say, man, that guy's a different. Could be plug and play starter. Right away, he's not there. Then there's the corners and I'm sitting there and I go. Because it's between Maxwell, Azaria Thomas and then Amos.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I, to me, Harrison is a no go. Maxwell, he's a no go. I don't, I don't think he fits.

[B]

Fits for them.

[C]

I don't think he fits for them. Okay, so he's a liability in the run game. That, that's one of the right.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

And he's 511. Like they say, that he has the intensity of wanting to make plays and puts his head down. He's just not big enough. Doesn't have the actual size to make plays. Below average tackle in the open field and a lot of people think he could come in right away and be a nickel. To me, that that doesn't fit. Again, he could be a great corner and be an elite nickel for another team and then develop into the outside. But 511, still a little bit smaller for me. For the Bills are going to go and get a first round corner, so. And Azaria Thomas isn't the athlete that I want him. That I want the Bills to take with. So he hasn't run the 40.

[B]

Right.

[C]

And when he did at his pro day, he kind of fell because I think he ran like four or five. So that's why to me, Amos checks all the boxes.

[B]

Yeah. And Jenna, again, these are the evaluations of Amos. Amos, good communicator in the zone coverage, great catch up speed. One of the scouts said this guy just puts his head down and goes to work. He also did one of the 30 visits with the Bills. It doesn't guarantee anything.

[C]

Played at Louisiana, spent a year at Alabama last year. So he was behind a lot of those elite, elite corners.

[B]

Right.

[C]

So like again, that's a lot of times you think of Alabama produces a lot of cornerback talent in the NFL. So that was one of the reasons. So again, and I'm with you, Mike, to me, if you can do it and gain the draft capital, that's great. But what if then somebody swoops up at 33 and takes Amos and you're sitting there with your pants down like, that's my fear. Where I go is the six, is the six picks worth the risk?

[B]

It's not just. Well, it's the six picks and it's also then moving up from low four to get back into the third.

[C]

Absolutely.

[B]

But Jenna, isn't that why Bean gets paid? What? He gets paid, right? He's got to make those calls.

[A]

Yeah. The evaluations and everything that goes into that. Yeah. I mean, I really like Trey. I think that he could.

[C]

Terry.

[B]

It's good friends call him Terry.

[C]

There will be a high if he becomes a Bill. I will absolutely call him Terry several times on the air.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is it going to be another cyrus no, sire so torrents situation or a Connor McDermott?

[C]

Oh, amazing.

[B]

Yeah. But yeah, by the way, just so you know, it's McGovern. Yeah, please.

[A]

I do think he checks all the boxes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's something where if you're going to take him that high like you want him to be that. Now looking at his draft profile stuff, they think he could be a second rounder or whatever. But like we've talked about, there's just such a swing in terms of what the first round could actually look like. But I wouldn't be shocked if they want corner. I really, I do think that defensive line though, if I'm being. That's something that I have my eye on. I think that's something I would go to first as opposed to corner. But it depends on who's on the board and how that Looks and how it falls.

[B]

You know who I have at 56?

[C]

He ain't gonna be there at 56. Who? Your boy's not going to be there at 56.

[B]

Darius Alexander is there at 56.

[C]

He's not there at 56.

[B]

He's from Toledo. There's people that have him much later than that into the third round. I think they look at the only thing about Alexander. He's the defensive tackle out of Toledo. Production wise, he did not dominate at Toledo, which a lot of people want to see that. They want to see the numbers. They listen. It is a very nice program, but you're not talking about the SEC here. But again, this is the same thing with Quinon Mitchell coming out of the same place, went to the Senior bowl, shined, made the all practice team. Smart player, will play right away. Big, physical, athletic, that type of player. I said in a previous podcast, I listened to Greg Cosell's analysis of him and he just raved about the skill set that he has and he thinks he has that ability to step right in and make plays in a defense. And I think he would be the type of player that would appeal to the Bills.

[C]

I absolutely. I'm in on Darius Alexander. I have the bills in the second round trading up oh to 43 with the San Francisco 49ers getting ahead of Atlanta, who also needs help on their defensive line. So they move up. They give up. The Bills would have to give up 56.

[B]

So their first. They're right. They just swap.

[C]

They're swapping that 109, 170 and 173. So both of their. It is 56, 109, 170 and 173.

[B]

Now that's. That is interesting because you can add those numbers up in the tre. The charts that they have, but that other team has to be willing to say I'll take a package of lower picks as opposed to a higher pick.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

But that means. Yes. Then you, you move up and you maintain both your twos.

[C]

Correct.

[B]

In that case.

[C]

And I would. Alexander. I'm. I think Alexander goes in the top 50. So again, if you're looking at it and saying to Jenna's point where Jenny, you're saying like you got to get a defensive tackle and if there's the run early in the second round of Alfred Collins and the defensive tackle, I'm drawing a blank on the name from Ohio State. Those guys start to go because, Mike, like you said, they're the bigger name schools, things like that, Texas and Ohio State don't wait. You have the draft capital. You have the ammunition to go up and get your guy and move up a little bit. Again, we've disagreed on this about what is in the sixth and seventh round and all these picks we have to move up. It's a great point. I've just been saying before a team has to trade back and realize they want that capital. If the Niners are wanting to get some more depth in their team and.

[B]

Niners are a good team because they have had to really revamp that roster. They've had to get rid of a lot of higher priced players. They're going to need to fill the roster a little bit more.

[C]

And when I look at where the Bills trade or where there is a possibility of a trade partner, I'm looking at okay, where is the team? Where's the team that also has the same need and I need to get ahead of them.

[B]

Yeah. So would you get ahead of Atlanta.

[C]

Because Atlanta needs to re their defensive line did absolutely nothing last year. So that's where again where you look at. That's the thing we talked about with some of these wide receivers. Jenna. I, I posted the, the video. It was a short and I tweeted it. The fact of, you know, when Mike asked oh would the could you see the Bills trading up to draft wide receiver and you like the Matthew golden and some people said, oh, there's no way that a white, you know, wide receivers worth trading up for this year. Matthew Golden I don't think gets past 16 in Arizona.

[A]

I mean that's, that's fair. Yeah.

[C]

Right. No, but no, no, your point is. Right.

[B]

Yeah. If he were to go past there. Right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He's available. Yes. Would they make a move?

[C]

Dallas has been really big on him. They had a visit, they took the picture with him, all those things which to Mike's point makes you believe even more that they did that that Kansas.

[B]

City wanted to get ahead of Dallas last year because Xavier Worthy Texas receiver, speed guy was there.

[C]

So that's where I look at some of those picks. So I have them moving up, giving up some of the smaller back end day. Three picks to move up and get your boy Darius Alexander.

[B]

So wait a minute. We have the same two players but.

[C]

We'Ve done it differently.

[B]

I had him in moving back, taking them in the early second. Yep. And then Alexander with the 56 pick.

[C]

You, you have them trading back to get Amos and I have them trading up to get Alexander.

[B]

But Jenna, we, we've agreed on the first two.

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[C]

That's very scary.

[B]

All right.

[A]

That is very scary.

[C]

There's the open.

[B]

So now they're sitting at 62.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

I have them making another move. They give up pick 206 move up. They trade it to Detroit. They move up two spots. They move a spot ahead of the Washington commanders who in my opinion will be in the market for a wide receiver in round two because they're going to need to add to what they have at wide receiver. And the guy I have the Bills taking is Jaden Higgins out of Iowa State. He's 6 4.

[C]

The corner.

[B]

No, the wide receiver.

[C]

The wide receiver.

[B]

I love what I've seen about him.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

I watched some of them. He is physical. He's fat. I'm sure when you look at the all the numbers he does separate. He was big, goes up and gets the ball. He was a zero star recruit coming out of high school.

[C]

Did he wrestle?

[B]

They love? No, but I have wrestlers coming up.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Separator. He was at Eastern Kentucky as a sophomore, had 10 touchdowns and then he transferred. Combine. Caught everything. I know it's combine. Yeah, but caught everything, plays that way. I have not seen him mock to the Bills. I have seen people talk about his skill set and I plays on the outside and I scream. That seems like a Buffalo Bill. What they need at wide receiver.

[C]

Okay. I do not have them taking a wide receiver in the first two days.

[B]

Now there's another guy that is out there that there is a another variance is wide on him. A wide receiver in Luther Burton from Missouri.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

And I watch this guy and I see what people. I think he's had some big flash moments and that's why two years ago people thought he's going to come out and be the number one wide receiver. And no negatives off the field. Yeah, that kind of player. But I just look at it and say he seems like that type of player that they could take a shot at because he also seems like we talk about taking swings for dudes. He seems like a dude to me.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. I, I've again, not a huge college football fan to some respects, but that was always a name that when you watched a game or made a play, it was like, this guy's a first round wide receiver. Like, hey, Missouri, this, this guy, this wide receiver out of Missouri is legit. So I see that your thoughts, Jenna, so far on Catalana's pretentious mock draft.

[A]

Pretentious? Oh, Mike. No, I. I was just thinking, like, if you guys were to pick the top three picks for the Bills in terms of position wise, would you have wide receiver in that grouping?

[C]

Yes.

[B]

For top three picks.

[A]

Top three picks.

[B]

I would. Yes.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Do you think Bean would.

[B]

Nope.

[A]

I don't think so either. I think, I do think what makes things interesting is just Keon Coleman and what you've seen out of him so far, the messaging about him this offseason by the Bills brass and if they maybe have that in mind to kind of take a guy earlier on to push Keon, because I think that sometimes that can motivate a guy or if it doesn't turn out to motivate a player, you have at least a backup or another guy in the wings that can kind of take over that role that you expected.

[C]

I'll throw the wild card in there because we always. Just being an agent of chaos here, there are some times when I was looking at some mocks and I was using stick to the simulator. What was I doing? Stick to the model. Bovet showed me that one. Or like that, like their draft options there. What if they take a wide receiver or a running back late in the second round? Ooh, what if it's Judkins? You know, what if it's one of the Ohio State guys?

[B]

There's one thing about sending a message. Here's the way I look at it.

[C]

You don't want to bite off your nose, spite your face.

[B]

Here's the way I look at it, is they have Ty Johnson.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

They have Ray Davis and they have James Cook. That would tell me they believe Cook's really going to push this.

[C]

Correct.

[B]

It takes away some leverage for him. Certainly. Maybe it facilitates something else happening. Look, I don't think he's sitting there going, I can't wait to trade James Cook.

[C]

Correct. And I also, all I was thinking about was, and it's a fifth round pick, but it's one they drafted from. Now, again, different kind of circumstance, but it was one of those picks where you were like, I wasn't even thinking the Bills were. Would use a pick on a quarterback at the time. And I would just sit there and I go say Judkins is still on the board late in the second round and the Bills take him. I think we'd all be surprised. I'm not saying that's going to happen. I'm not saying I want it to happen, but just another one of those agent of chaos kind of moves of what if kind of thing. I have the bill staying put. Obviously that at the end of the second round and the mock drafts I was doing, he was there a lot.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Was Xavier Watts.

[B]

Well, I like him.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So. And I know some people like because I just tweeted out my, my first. I just did the first two rounds. Somebody's like, oh well, we already spent a second round pick on a safety last year. Why'd we do it again? And all these things. Do you really think Taylor raps the long term answer?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I go, so if, if you sit there and want to go like Taylor rap's got two years left on his deal. Xavier Watts I think is too good of a player that if he is on the board at the end of the second round to pass up. I'm not saying you move up because I think that's a little bit of not. It's not that big of a need. But if he's sitting there, I think he's too good of a player to pass up.

[B]

Hey, Jenna, you know the guy you see everybody sees late in the first round because of the position and a lot of people have commented to us, would the bills be interested in him? Is Emmwori the safety out of South Carolina? Nick Em and worry.

[C]

Oh yeah.

[B]

Athletically off the charts, which does not fit the bills. I mean, listen, we all love Mike and Jordan, but they would not have tested Jordan. Certainly more. But you know what I was looking at, Jenna? He is 6, 3, 2, 20. He is bigger than Terrell Bernard. He's 2 inches taller. He's the size of Trump, the same weight.

[C]

He's the build of Trump.

[A]

He's 6. What is he?

[B]

6, 3, 6, 3 2, 20. And Bernard is 61 2, 24. So he's the same weight him in the pres. Yeah. Yes. And I've seen his name pop up. If you're saying is this kind of safety. The downside for him is the reason I don't think he fits the bills. If this would be sitting at 30 and all of a sudden this guy's on the board Is his strength is in the box. Tough, that type of player. Not really a past defender.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Strong.

[C]

Dorian wasn't much of one either, and he's developed.

[B]

This guy's going to play safety for you.

[C]

Oh, sorry.

[B]

He's just the size of a linebacker.

[C]

I got lost. I got lost in the sauce.

[B]

Yeah. In that case, I was thinking about.

[C]

Trump's size and how well he could the A gap. I was just thinking about that.

[B]

But yes. So this is because you've. That name has popped up sometimes of people, and I'm like, physically, like somebody is going to get that guy, and I think he has a chance to have it really work. But I just think as talented as he is, I don't think he fits for the Bills.

[C]

Jenna and I do want to make a note. I don't mean to backtrack and go back to our second pick, but I do want to get some points on the record here because this would be talked about if the possibility of Darius Alexander is drafted. I want to get ahead of this. He would be older than Terrell Bernard and Greg Russo.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I just want that in the record. Those. Those tweets would be hot. Matt Beauvais and I were talking about.

[B]

Already ready to go.

[A]

They're probably already in the drafts.

[C]

No, but I. I did say I was. I would be racing Bove to see who could get that tweet up first.

[A]

Yeah, that is wild to think about.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So in my.

[A]

I can only imagine what your drafts look like.

[C]

Just a lot of Braves. There's just a lot of Braves tweets.

[B]

In my mock draft, I had them at 88 because I picked up a third. Okay, you don't have a third.

[C]

I don't have a.

[B]

So I don't want a third. You can sit for the whole third round, Dan.

[A]

You have a third, so.

[B]

Yes, I know he does.

[C]

That was funny, Jenna.

[B]

And by the way, they have not high. Yes, Here we go. After that trade, I have them moving from 88 to 80. Trade with Indianapolis moving up to eight spots. The Bills give up 170. Okay, they have that pick and they take UCLA edge. Femi Oladejo.

[A]

Good pronunciation. Michael.

[B]

Well, his name is Longer. They call him Femi. This guy. There's a guy. Here's a guy who has played linebacker. Both Sam and the Mike linebacker position moved him to the outside to have him play on the D line. Freakishly strong. They use the word freakishly a lot in draft evaluations, and a lot of people believe he has that physical ability to set an edge and also will blossom. Blossom into a 4, 3 defensive end, pass rusher. You have Nick Bosa this year on that side. Obviously you have Greg on the other side. He also, for what it's worth, one of the bill's 30 visits.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

He's a guy that has that. You will see people very early in the second round, third round, late third round. So you never know how this guy is on the board. I think he's the type of player, if he's near where they are, they would make a move to go get him. So that's why I have them take him with that other pick. So I have them with a D tackle and a pass rushing edge, a wide and a wide receiver and a corner. The four picks.

[C]

To your point about freakish strength, talent, athleticism. That's my big thing about this draft class. And Jenna, get your points. And I know we've talked about like having that high strength, like having that one attribute, that one talent. Like. Yeah, I feel like the Bills have done a. Yeah. And. And I go. Christian Bass was also talking about it that like the Bills have done a really good job on defense of getting the most out of the talent out of the guys that they've had. But they haven't had any freak athletes. Terrence.

[A]

Probably true. They had Terrell Tremaine Edmonds.

[B]

Yeah, I think Edmonds was a. Yes. Was a.

[A]

He was a freak athlete. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt.

[C]

No, that's. That's a good point. But it's like you look at the defense right now, it's like Greg has flashes, but Taryn's probably the most athletic player on their defense.

[B]

Dorian Williams is probably the most athletic player.

[C]

That's fair.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think being a freak athlete is. Is important, but I think instincts are more important.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I look at the players that they've really had excel and I think of like Terrell Bernard. He's not a physical freak, but he has incredible instincts and that has led to splash plays. I think.

[B]

I think that's a. Yeah, that is a very good point because they. They do value being in the right place, making the smart play trust and all those things. I guess if you get that combination of the two. Yes, that's. That's hard to find.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, that be something really special. But I think that they value. Or if I were them, I would value instincts even that much more than physical freak because. And maybe that's just because Tremaine Edmonds and it kind of didn't go the way The Bills thought, I mean, they obviously traded back in the first round to get them, but I just feel like what they've been able to do with guys that do have better instincts has been more impressive. So, yeah, to get the combo of both would be something that could be really exciting for the defense.

[C]

And I guess I, I like especially looking at some of these corners, you hear a lot about lax instincts or some of them have, have the great instincts. I'd like them to have that freakish athletic ability to make up for their lack of instincts. So, like, you get beat, but you have the speed to make up for it. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Coach them up to be in the position, in the techniques and all those things and then having the, the raw talent to make up for it.

[B]

Okay. And then how much patience do you have with that? Because Dorian Williams is that guy.

[A]

That's fair. Yeah.

[C]

And Dorian's. I think next year's Dorian.

[B]

Do you hope? Right. Yeah. But, you know, you, you've seen it with other players. Like it just sometimes doesn't always show up. Now, I, I would say this. I don't think there's any doubt Kair Elam is probably a better athlete. 100 than Terrell or than Christian Benford. Christian Benford, Yeah, yeah, yeah. He didn't, he just didn't have that.

[C]

But that's where I also look at the technique, the coachability.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

It's the system fit as we've been talking about. It's not just the, you know, because I see a lot of guys, they struggle in zone coverage a little bit. It's like they need to work on zone coverage more. It's like I trust Babich and McDermott to be able to get them to understand better concepts in zone in this type of, of scheme, in this, in that building.

[B]

Yes. And Jenna, you know, we, we see it day in and day out, how much of it is communication on the field. And we mentioned with Amos, communicating within a zone, being able to pass players off from one to another in the quick moments of the game. If you don't have that ability, they won't trust you to be on the field.

[A]

I do think that's something that we don't maybe talk about enough, but how impactful that is and how important it is. And sometimes when you're watching on tv, you can't see that. But specifically for the defense, and we've talked about Terrell Bernard putting guys physically into place, but I just traffic. Yeah. Of like what that means to a defense. Now I will say we talk about physical freaks and all that stuff. Obviously they took the swing on Josh Allen and he had both the physical freak abilities and the instincts to go with it. So when you see those together, what it could be is obviously impressive. But I just think for the defense, what we've seen out of him in the past, it has been the more instinctual players that had have had a higher ceiling.

[B]

Yeah, I agree. And I think that's where sometimes you have to take a step back from.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Because listen, there's a baseline of physical ability. You need to even walk onto that field. So these are one field. Right. These guys are all very good athletes. There is just a difference with some players where they are. What I'm going to do in the, in the comments. Well, not in the comments. In the instructions of the pod. I'm gonna put my draft.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Because it's a little hard to follow with where we're going. But now we. I'll continue a little bit because I have a. A guy that I think fits the idea of what they like in the fourth round because I have them at 109. I've already made other deals with the fourth round picks. Same as Dorian Strong. Virginia Tech, four year starter at corner. He came in for a 30 visit. I think they want to convert him to safety.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Jordan Poyer was a corner when he was drafted in the seventh round out of when he went to the Eagles.

[A]

Oregon State.

[B]

Oregon.

[C]

Bingo. Jenna.

[B]

Oregon State is what? The Beavers. Beavers one's the Beavers.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

Oregon who's also played baseball. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That was the only thing I knew about Jordan Poyer when he came in for his introductory press conference was was drafted to play baseball.

[B]

Now I'm go Iowa. Yes. Remember he goes wherever it's cold. Iowa Green. That's why he lives in San Diego now.

[C]

Finally figured it out.

[B]

Yeah. Because I, I look at this player and I brought him in and I just think his physical traits I think would make it tough to play outside corner the NFL because I don't think he's quick enough or fast enough to play smart all those things. I just think he seems to be the type of player they would bring in and see what's there in terms of playing safety. Okay. And they brought him in for a visit. I'll go through some of these other ones quick because I know we're done. Pick 169 Ty Robinson, Nebraska defensive tackle. Six foot five run defender. He is not a pass rusher. He's a team captain. Coachable. Showed up detail oriented. And Jenna. He wrestled at Nebraska.

[C]

Oh my gosh.

[A]

Who's that?

[B]

Ty Robinson.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I could just see McDermott. Yeah. I could just. I could just see McDermott at training camping. Like T. Rob has just been. You know, he's just been doing a lot of good things. We were talking about a profession. You talk about a professional. He just goes about his business.

[A]

Could definitely teams.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Tackle.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Early downs. 173. Maliki Matavayo.

[C]

Just a great name.

[B]

Tight. That's why I picked him. Tight end. UCLA tight end is. Yes.

[C]

Can he catch?

[B]

He is not a pass catcher. He is big, strong quote. Does the dirty work inside. Can block and move people. Can you? I think they would be in the market. Well, I think they'd be in the market for a blocking tight end.

[C]

No. Later in the round they have a blocking tight end. His name is Alec Anderson.

[B]

They still play with another tight end and play with. Sometimes with a fullback. I could see this guy playing fullback for him too.

[C]

Where's Reggie going?

[B]

I'm talking about. This is. Those guys are all on one year deals. He should have wrestled.

[C]

You know my thoughts about blocking tight ends.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Do you know who. Do you know who's better than a blocking tight end? The worst offensive lineman.

[B]

Yeah. Yes.

[C]

Because that's what they specialize in is blocking.

[B]

Also not to put it out there. But they were very fortunate last year. Two years now where most five play all the time. Because if something goes on.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yes. So I think it is.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

To have on the roster. They trade 177. They go back into the seventh round. They're not in the seventh.

[C]

Look at you, Cook.

[B]

They pick up 217 and 239. I just love this name too. Jeremy Crawshaw. Punter, Florida Australian. Incredible mustache.

[C]

Love it.

[B]

Needs to work on a hang time. But he's 45 yards per kick. I think they want full on. Joe Scalia calls it Punta Palooza.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

They want the competition this year. And Brew McCoy. 239. Big frame, physical. This is my version of the extra wide receiver can block in the run game. Some think he could even convert to tight end. His pass catcher. Better pass catcher. More developmental tight end.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Brew McCoy.

[C]

I got a day four or day three.

[B]

Oh, day four.

[C]

Day four. I'm just adding guys. Yeah. This guy. Talk about a steal in day four. You never thought about that? I just saw was as a sleeper. Something that Isaac Tesla.

[B]

Really?

[C]

Okay, hang on.

[B]

Hear me out. Tesla. By the way, is it Tesla, No. Oh, I got.

[C]

Damn it. He got me there. Yeah. Well done. Okay. He played at Arkansas 6, 4. Also spent time playing Division 3 football is where he started. He's converted from a quarterback to a wide receiver.

[B]

He's electric.

[C]

Give me that one more time. Give me that one more time. Isaac Tesla is electric bad boy. He is physical. 50, 50 balls. He's big, physical. He plays a big slot. So it's kind of like maybe he can develop into being more of an outside guy. But talk about a journey. Division 3. Learning the position just to be somebody interesting. If you haven't seen it, it's just kind of fun to. To think about these day three guys of like, hey, why not take a flyer on this? Just an interesting guy. That out of Arkansas, I believe is where he played. Trey Harris is another guy we've seen. I think that's not what Trepasso talked about out of Ole Miss. He was pretty much like their Wildcat.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Quarterback. He took a lot of direct snaps, a lot of handoffs in the backfield. Isaiah McKenzie. Ish. If they wanted somebody like that. Because I think that they. I think they go bargain shopping on day three with picking up some wide receivers to again bring in competition guys that tooths. You know, Trey Harris has. Has big time speed. So something like that.

[B]

It's not Terry.

[C]

It's not. I. It could be. Honestly, it. Isaac Tesla may not even go to Arkansas. But those were my. Those were the. My quick notes that I had. Again, I only mocked the first two rounds after that. I said day three. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Well, I added. So I got him four picks in the first 88.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

That's pretty good.

[C]

Yeah. You were. You were on the phones quite a bit.

[B]

Yeah, that's the way it worked out.

[C]

Jenna's. Jenna's just fighting that microphone. She is just battling. She's in the trenches right now.

[A]

Life over here.

[C]

So. Comment in what you guys in the comments. What you would like the Bills to do, what you think the Bills should do.

[A]

Things like that as the Bills to do.

[C]

Yeah. Any other picks, Mike, are you trading next year? Like, are you already boxed next year's draft?

[B]

No, no, I haven't started working on that yet. I just tried to get into the mind of the Bills gm.

[A]

Okay, question. Big swing. If they take a big swing in the first round, is there a guy that you think of if they. If they do make a move to trade up in a way we weren't expecting?

[C]

I don't see him trading up, you know.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But.

[B]

I gotta Tell you though, there are players, right. So here's two players on the D line that you will see go anywhere from 10 to 41 is Shemar Stewart Edge out of Texas A and M. Physically incredible. For some reason that guy it just has not had the production and there are teams that will say I don't care, this guy is a freakish athlete, should have had more production. A lot of times you'll see a guy like this and maybe his junior year that he gets to production. Hasn't done it, but he is off the charts with all the rankings of all the movement, the shuttle, everything that they do.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And the other guy is Walter Nolan, the defensive tackle out of Mississippi.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

Opposite of Stewart. I think people maybe downgrade him a little bit because as good as an athlete he is, he's not an off the charts guy. Yeah. But he has had production made first team all sec. He was. It's funny, he was at A and M and then he transferred to Mississippi. Man, this the portal and the nil guys are all over the place and playing. But that Walter Nolan because I have seen him mocked to the Eagles behind the Bills and you know as the type of player that they would go for. So again there are players like that that if you're being. You're sitting there going, we don't know what he thinks about it but the draft could fall in a way to Jenna's point which say they loved him, Walter Nolan and he's sitting there at 25, 26. Do you make a move because you think he's a difference maker?

[C]

Yeah, we're just over a lot on that assumption.

[A]

No, I don't think so.

[C]

Well, we thought they would trade up for a wide receiver last year and the year before and they haven't. Yeah, they traded back like you know what I'm saying? Like, like we're always sitting there going oh if this guy's there. And again Brian Thomas was a guy that was there and and Roma Dunes was never an option. But just the thought of like we're sitting there going hey, this pie in the sky Hope.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And it's just never happened.

[A]

I would say be traded up for a dog K traded up for Kai. You're right.

[C]

Like right. That's what I'm saying us on assuming what is could they trade up to get. We are just not very good at.

[B]

I think the way this draft is perceived and maybe it's perceived differently by him trading back makes a lot of sense but that's.

[C]

Every team thinks that and that Makes it, I think, more difficult than in years past because there's not the desire. Because after the top 10 picks, there isn't all of those guys. You go, I got to go get that guy.

[B]

Yes. But if you're dealing with another team, they may have needs that the Bills don't. There may be an offensive lineman there. That is another year the Bills would say. I think we would take him at 30.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

A tackle.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Right now. There's going to be a time in the next year to two that they may be in the market for that. You know, Dion's been really good. And sometimes teams like to draft that guy a year early, especially when they pick where the Bills pick and they think they can get a guy they can project out. So there's teams. Yes, that's. And the point about the quarterbacks is a real one, because that's wild.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

Because we don't know what's going to happen. But all I know is why the New York Giants got to do something.

[A]

Yeah. I'm also not ready for them mentally to draft another left tackle.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

What that means about.

[B]

No, I don't.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I see teams sort of sometimes trying to prepare for that.

[C]

Right. Think about when Josh turns 30 and you're like, whoa, gosh.

[A]

Yeah, that's wild.

[C]

Anything else, guys?

[A]

Credit to me.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Oh, in terms of draft, I don't. I don't know.

[C]

Michael, do you have a credit to me?

[B]

Well, I'll let Jenna go first.

[A]

Okay. Credit to. First things first. I hope they don't trade back, because last year was just so boring in terms of the. In terms of our job. I was like, this stinks. I don't ever want them to do this, so I would rather prefer if they do. Do. Do a pick in the first round. My credit to me is actually credit to you guys because I had to impromptu make a trip for a family thing, and you guys were awesome and very helpful and let me just relax and hence why I'm have a very strange background. I'm with family, but I just really appreciate it. And I'm not gonna cry because I'm not crying, but I just love you guys and thank you.

[C]

Yeah, you're all right. Love you, too.

[A]

Yeah, no problem.

[B]

So credit to us is us.

[C]

Yeah. It's just. We're just awesome. That's it.

[B]

Go ahead.

[C]

My credit to me is pretty much based off of credit to fans. And I mean, in the sense of we. Obviously, if you're on this channel, you're a fan, and when things are going great, you can't wait to digest more content. And when things aren't going great, it's easy to say you don't know what you're talking about and things like that and to almost revolt against more content. I'm going through that right now as a Braves fan. So credit to people that have been so passionate on this channel. And while we have said before, we are not Bill's fans. We cover the team. We love covering the team. We love putting out content for you, the viewers. We also understand what it's like to be a fan. It's just not of this team. So being a Braves fan right now, oh, they actually got a hit. How about that? Hit a home run. How about that? The Braves, it's been. It's been excruciating. So I understand fans. Being a fan is awesome. It also can ruin your day. So the credit is to those people that live and die by their teams and the struggles that they go through because being a Braves friend right now is miserable. So that's my credit to me and all the viewers that have stuck through the highs and lows, obviously, of when you're frustrated covering a team or following a team and when you're happy covering a team. So everybody that's stuck through it, okay.

[B]

Off of that credit to me, I know just when to slightly jab at Dan for the Braves and then when to back off because. Do you. Oh, I did today. And I could see that. Look, it's April.

[C]

Season's over, man.

[B]

April just follow you. I'm sure most of you follow Dan on social media. He is the Braves. Sal Marana. It's so with the Yankees. He is. He stays up till two in the morning to watch him. He is. He's so into it. So. And listen, I'm a Phillies fan. They are rivals. The one thing the Braves have done this year is beaten them two out of three. So that was good for the Braves. I didn't say boo. I wouldn't say boo either way. But when I say boo, I see that reaction from Dan and I just back off.

[C]

Stewing. Just stewing this.

[B]

Yeah. Gotta back off.

[C]

Yeah. Now, there's producers here at the station that I have.

[B]

Well, they're Mets fans.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

April is their time.

[C]

I've said some things that I would not want to be repeated about wishing ill will. That's where I have problems. That's when I know that Sal, the sale in me is. Is coming out too much.

[B]

But, yeah, that's it.

[C]

All right. Appreciate it. As always.

[B]

Again, my wrap up of this is you and I are awesome.

[C]

That was the main thing I took away from this podcast.

[A]

Yeah, I'll allow that for this episode.

[C]

Awesome. All right, again, Tuesday, we'll have content. Wednesday, our live show, 7 o' clock Eastern Standard Time, previewing the draft, answering your questions. Thursday, we will also be live before the draft.

[B]

Yeah, we'll, we'll send out a message as when we're going to go up because it'll be in time if and if the Bills make a move and move up, we are on the channel. Like we will be there.

[C]

I will be up in Buffalo on draft nights. We will have tons of you guys will be here in the studio. So we have tons of coverage there. So Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, probably something Friday. We'll recap everything on Saturday. Busy weekend ahead. Thank you so much for following along. We appreciate it. I know it's just been kind of tricky these last few weeks, but we really appreciate. As always, please be sure to like, comment, subscribe and share as well as Jenna. What is it? Also follow along. What's the other one you say like.

[A]

Comment, subscribe and share and rate.

[C]

Yeah, I'm not the host here. I've already struggled with you.

[A]

Like comment, subscribe and then be sure to rate wherever you listen to your audio podcasts, which we have a good rating, although the first rating I believe is from me and it's very obvious because it says Genesee.

[C]

Well done.

[B]

Wow. It's your burner account. Build the brain.

[A]

Very clearly.

[C]

I appreciate it. As always. For Jenna Cattrall and Mike Catalina, I'm Dan Fates. Thanks for listening here and and watching on the Buffalo YouTube channel and podcast presented by Connors and Ferris. This is the Buffalo plus podcast brought to you by Connors and Ferris.