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Bills surprise: Jordan Poyer is back
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Poyer is back with the Bills
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A
All right, welcome back to the Buffalo Pus podcast. Two podcasts in one day. That's a record.
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B
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A
Please be sure to like, comment and subscribe if you enjoy our content. Content. Or if you just enjoy our dedication. Maybe. All right, Mike and Dan. I'm Jenna Poyer resigning with the Bills two year deal. Mike, are you surprised by this?
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C
So here's the way I was thinking of it. He did not leave on bad terms. No one said that. He didn't say that. I think he loved this time with the Bills. It was his time to try to cash in. But, boy, the league looks at things in a certain way. And I'm sorry, I'm reading these guys saying, oh, look at the tape. Look at where it is. That guy played on one leg last year and one elbow. I mean, he was banged up, so broken ribs. Exactly. So you want to go after him for missing some plays. The fact that he was on the field last year. I told you, in all my years covering the Bills, I've never seen a guy in his circumstance, contract wise, put it on the line like he did last year, to be out there. It would have been easy for him to say, I'm done. Right. He would have been easy for him to sit out more games. He was vital to that team. And I think at the right price, they wanted him back. And, Dan, this is what we always talk about, at the right price. And the team sort of dictates this. When a player gets to a certain age, I think they would have said, you know what? He's going to get paid more if he goes to the Dolphins or he goes to the Giants or wherever he goes. But then all of a sudden he looked around and said, that's not there for me. Yeah, I'm coming back. And the Bills welcome him back. It wasn't, we don't want this guy anymore. It's that we have to figure what price we want to pay him.
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B
Yeah. On the last video we did about two hours ago on the signing of Deontay Hardy, there was some disagreements. I think we're unanimous, unanimously, in love with bringing Jordan Poyer back. I. Mike, you talked about how it would have been easier for him to sit out games. In my opinion, he could have set out this whole year to get a new contract. Like. Like this guy put it all night. I remember training camp when he wasn't at voluntary meetings, and everybody's like, keisha, just gotta play. The guy went out there and played at an all Pro Level like, this guy literally played the best season of his career battling all those elements. So, like the all 22 gurus that sit in their mom's basement and are going to tell me that he's missing plays, I'm just not going to buy it. So that guy was so vitally important. And there will be changes to this defense. And I was starting to look at it. I was going. I was looking at the Bengals who had lost both of their starting safeties. And I'm sitting there and I'm going, the Eagles defense losing a lot of guys. And I'm sitting there going, man, the Bills are going to need to replace Poyer and Edmonds and a defensive coordinator. And I'm going, man, this is a lot of change. This is massive for the defense to bring back stability. Mike, you talked about it before young cornerbacks that they probably are going to have to have Hyde employer. And we have been saying for forever on this channel, this is a defense that has been built back to front, not the other way around. They are. While trained. Edmonds has been the quarterback of the defense and Milano has been probably the most important player. They have been the safety blankets that have covered up a lot of inconsistent play in front of them.
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C
Yeah.
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B
So I think this is a steal. I know we're still waiting to hear the numbers, but I hope Poyer got paid. Like we were talking about the Hardy deal. And I'm going to. It better not be this much. I hope Poyer got the money he deserved.
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C
Well, I just. Jen, I just got a notification. Not only is the Poyer deal official, the bill sent it out, but New York State just said they're going to lower the taxes for everybody this year in honor of Jordan Poyer. So here we go. Less taxes we're going to pay.
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A
Honestly, I would love that. It's funny because I was thinking about, you know, all offseason, all right, they're probably going to try to resign Tremaine and then join Jordan. Jordan Poirier walks. And then the way things have shaken out with Poyer coming back, I mean, I think this is a huge sigh of relief for guys like Sean McDermott. Just guys in the defense as well, the actual players. Because when you have, like Dan talked about Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer back there, you have all the confidence in the world. And I think that, you know, the stats speak for itself. In terms of the team's record last season when Poyer was on the field, they only lost one game. Correct. That was the last game, last playoff games. When Poyer was in the lineup. And I think that kind of. That stack can be a little bit misleading. At the same point, he was that guy. I think of even back to the Baltimore game, coming down to the wire, Poyer had that huge interception at the end of the game that kind of put the offense in motion. He would hurt himself in the process of that. And like, I think too back to training camp, when he got hurt, drove to Kansas City.
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B
He drove to Kansas City because he couldn't fly. He drove?
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A
Yeah. No, I mean, he's asked.
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B
He's gone.
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C
Excuse me. He took the Jenna route. He sat in the car and someone else drove.
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A
He was a passenger Princess, but which I am a big fan of.
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C
Hey, maybe this year, in honor of that, when they go back to Kansas City, he'll get in the van again and go back out there.
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A
In fact, we got to go back to Kansas City again. Again. But no, I think it's. I wasn't sure this was going to happen, honestly.
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C
Oh, yeah. With you.
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A
It was one of those situations where I felt like there's no way. And then it was interesting yesterday, seeing some of the other guys sign. I'm like, okay, like, there's not a lot of teams out there. It kind of. Kind of made sense that, like, the options are kind of dwindling. But to Dan's point. Yeah. I also hope that he got good money because he is a huge impactful player. And I mean, his resume with the Bills stands for and speaks for itself.
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B
So we got contentious on a video earlier this week about Tremaine Edmonds. Jen and I talked about, like, where were the negotiate. Like, you don't know what was being said. And 100 true. But looking a little bit of this road map, I. Jordan Poyer is beloved in that locker room. And I remember when Dawson, Knox and some of those other guys got money. When you're giving money to some person, how it is viewed in the locker room, where a lot of times you're like, hey, look, this guy's getting paid and I'm not. That's why I was so adamant.
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A
I remember that's how I feel about me and Mike.
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B
I feel about myself. Yeah, but. Yeah, no, exactly. But the fact of. I remember going like, you have to sign Trey White to an extension now because what. What else are you saying around the locker room? And again, we don't know exactly what Edmonds was, but Milano got an extension and then Edmonds left. Whatever. I wonder now, looking at the tea leaks, Allen, Vaughn and Diggs all Restructured some of their contract, and then 24 hours later, Poyer signs. I wonder if that was. I wonder if that was any bit to it. Hey, can we restructure your stuff and let's go get Jordan? We want to bring back Jordan. We want to bring back Jordan, but we need a little help. I'm just wondering now.
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C
I think those are. Sometimes those are built right into the contract that they can do that for the players. I think they would. They would have known. It doesn't mean they don't say, hey, listen, you know, we're doing this and we're bringing him back. I don't think it was like, hey, hey, Steph, we got to do this to get Poyer back.
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B
First of all, I didn't say got to.
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C
No, but it's no skin off the players nose there. I mean, they. They.
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B
Correct.
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C
They get their money up front. But. But I do think, to your point, players want to see him back. Like, he absolutely has been that guy. And I. And I think it's great. You know, it's funny, our. Our fourth member of the Buffalo plus team, Mike Giardi, was on the NFL morning show, NFL Network morning show, Good Morning Football. And Micah was on there with him. And Micah was, you know, it was. It was kind of nice, and it was almost a little sad. He was like, hey, I'm gonna say Po's name as many times as I can. I want him back. And so. And I felt a little bit watching that this was before free agency. Like, yeah, Micah knows he's gone. Micah knows that, you know, it's his. It felt like that. And maybe at that moment, he did. Look, we know he seem to want the Dolphins and want to be in Florida, and then all of a sudden, Jaylen Ramsey is coming. And they didn't have to give up a ton, but he makes some money, and they've spent a lot of money in that secondary. Things happen fast in this league where all of a sudden you think you've got a spot somewhere. But I give Poyer credit for this. He never said anything bad, never said anything publicly. Like, what he says privately is his business. But never say anything publicly about being mad. To Dan's point, he showed up. And I know it's easy for other people to say, well, you got a contract. Look at Darius Slay, just got cut by the Eagles, got a big contract. This. They. They rip up contracts last year deals. You're gone. We saw with the bills, with Shady McCoy. Oh, you got a year left to boom, boom, gone.
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B
Yep.
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C
So he was in the final year. That's when a guy normally gets a new deal. And it's funny how it didn't work out, because I'm sure his thoughts, Jenna, were a bigger number, which they should be. And then eventually it comes back and he's like, you know what? For this money, I'm coming back where I'm comfortable and where I can play and I'll deal with the cold weather.
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And you. Oh, go ahead, Dan.
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B
No, and I think that's part of maybe where fans misconstrued it a little bit because we always joke around, like, oh, it's a million dollars less. Like, would you guys rather have a million dollars or not have a million dollars? But I wonder if the number was somewhat similar from another team that Poyer said.
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C
I can believe that.
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B
Like. Like, I'm not saying that there was a bigger number out there, but being with Josh Allen and Micah Hyde and all those things, like, that is where there is a little bit. You will take a small discount. Like, I know people just want to say the hometown discount. Like a small discount to be. Again, he's been on the number one ranked defense. It has. He's been as instrumental as anybody into building the Bills into a Super bowl contender.
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C
Definitely 100% with what you're saying. Look, if it's not a sizable difference. And Dan, you made the point. Let's say it was the Cincinnati Bengals. Okay. Really good team.
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B
Yep.
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C
You're going to Cincinnati, like, for, say, roughly the same money. Roughly the same money. No, and it's a big change. It's a change of life. And it's not, you know, Ohio's got high taxes, too. Maybe not New York, but you know what I mean? Like, that's all different. It might have been if it was Jacksonville or Miami. You know, where you say, I'm going to Florida, I'm going to stay there. This is where we want to be. Okay, then that's that way. But where. If he was a West coast guy and it was a team. No, no, no, no. I think that's. Janet, would you even consider that discount? I think it's more. Just not a sizable difference in it. Yes. It's more common sense to say why.
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A
I look at it. Yeah. I mean, you also have the comfort factor. You also have that your super bowl window is still open. Like, all of these things. If it was between, like, let's say, you know, the Bills and like, maybe the Bears, like, it's like, where do you want to be at? And that's a Huge question. He's already been with a team that's been in a rebuild mode and that was Buffalo, obviously. So I get why there's things that factor into him wanting to be, you know, back with the team. I also think too, and we kind of talk about it, but like, I'm just happy he's not going to Miami. Like, I'm happy he's not because we know the caliber of player that he is and what it, what it means and just his ability to impact plays. But. Oh, wait. What's up, Dan?
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B
No, I'm just reading the bills.com article and again, team article and things like that. But to Mike's point, like he has said at the beginning of this video, Brandon Bean is quoted in here saying, I give Jordan a lot of credit and he is a pro. I know these whole contract things and like, people can handle them in a lot of different ways. We all see that. But a lot of respect for how Jordan handled this. And he's a great poro and did a lot of great things for us and we'd love to have him back for sure. I'd be the first to tell you that. So the, the way that he handled that didn't go overlooked like some other people in the NFL that go on and are just so annoying. Poyer handled everything the right way and that does that is worth something.
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A
Yeah.
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C
Oh, he's. He's a. He's a Bill.
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A
He's all pro in the way he handles himself in terms of that too.
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C
No, no doubt about it. There's no doubt about it. He's this, this puts him in. You know. And Jenna, you were talking about in our last video, which you can also see on the deontay. Hardy signing up.
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B
Hardy forgot.
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C
Yes. By the way, I talked to a Brandon Bean source who said Bean had listened to Dan talk about the money for Hardy and he said I got to do something now to change the narrative, so I'm going to bring Poyer back. Nails change things. And he nailed it.
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A
But Jenna, you avid listener of Buffalo plus, he is.
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B
He likes comments and subscribes and he.
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C
Wants to get you guys paid. At least that's what he told us.
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B
That is what he told me at the, at the, at the combine.
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C
Combine. But Janet, when we were talking about Hyde Employer joining the team, you know, Micah was a starter for the Green Bay Packers. Played with. What was that guy's name? That was the quarterback, right? What's his name? Plays for the jets now.
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A
I believe it's Aaron something something.
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C
Yeah. I, I, you know, I don't want to put my. His name out there. You know, I'm gonna be like, Rogers, big drunk guy. He was a guy, Big guy. He was a. He was a starter for a playoff team. Jordan Poyer got drafted in seventh round by the Eagles, got cut, went to the Browns, got hurt. Like, yeah. He was one of those guys that sometimes the team signs and it was a nothing signing by the Bills.
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B
Agreed.
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C
Was like, bring this guy in and see what he's got and look what he's become for them.
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B
So I remember when he signed, the. The storyline wasn't what he can do or any of these things. It was, oh, he played baseball. He was really good at baseball. Like, that was the storyline we took out of him. Coming up at, like, when they bring in the free agents and they bring in like, five at a time and they. They just roll them through. And I remember being like, oh, Poyer played baseball. He's a really good baseball player. Like, yeah, okay.
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C
Yeah.
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B
And now he's all pro and has literally been as influential and as in instrumental.
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C
Yeah. Wow, look at you. Influential and instrumental. Hey, influential. Influential. I just made a point. By the way, the other thing. Oh, yeah, so much so. Thank you, by the way, Brandon, for getting this done before I went on vacation. The other thing that Hyde said in that interview on NFL Network was he was talking about who's a trash talker. And he said how he. I don't know if you guys heard this, how he gets. He'll get Poyer going. He'll be like. He says when he gets going, he'll just talk, and it gets him fired up. And he sort of hinted that. He says, hey, Po, do you see what. Hear what that guy just said about you? Even if he's making it up.
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B
It'S like Jordan at the restaurant, when the guy looked at him as they were leaving the restaurant in Utah, and he goes, have a good game today. And that was all that he needed. Ballistic. Like, shouldn't have told me that.
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C
Like, yeah, got him going. So. So I'm sure there'll be a little bit of that when he's back on the field with his teammates.
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A
Oh, man. I. I just was not expecting this. I saw Dan tweet, quote, tweet the Ian Rapaport, and I was like, I had to do, like this at the phone, where I was like, wait, am.
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B
I make sure it was the real Ian Rapaport?
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C
Yeah, well. And you know what else, too, is I. I think we started to sense something and I tweeted out the other day that I was a little surprised he hadn't signed yet.
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A
Yes.
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C
And we were thinking like, okay. And my thought was, is that still, Is that still an option? Like, and that could have been on the bill side too, depending on what they had done. And you never know if the number was lower for Edmonds and they had signed them.
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B
Yep.
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C
You know what they decide to do. But I did. I think Dan made the best point of this. Kicks it down the road. Not in a negative way, but in a positive way for Bean to say, no, I got these guys. I got these guys.
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A
What? Dan? Why you say it?
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B
No, I just saw another tweet. Sorry. Unrelated.
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C
Oh, okay.
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B
Sorry. Levante David is returning to Tampa on a one year deal. Would have liked him. Yeah, would have liked him. And Ryan Talbot of Syracuse.com also was reporting that the Bills had reached out. I would have liked him. He's another one of those veteran guys that I thought would fill the gap.
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C
So by the way, what's shot just while we're talking about this? Tyrell Dodson have a job, a chance to win that job.
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B
He's got a chance. He's got a chance.
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C
In his two, two of his starts, he had 24 tackles. I know.
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B
He was phenomenal.
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C
Stats correct?
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B
No, he was phenomenal in that Steelers game. He was. I, I shot that game and I was going, holy cow, is he flying around? Absolutely.
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C
And he made, he made a couple big hits in that game.
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B
He had 13 against the Chiefs and I think he had a, I don't.
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C
Get 11 in the game against Cleveland too. I think.
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B
Yeah. One of the games he didn't play great. That may have been the Cleveland game, but I know some people are being like, he was terrible. He wasn't terrible. And it's nice to bring back a guy that at least is. Has some familiarity with the position that he's filling.
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C
And Terrell Bernard, again, you don't know what the guy does off season. Comes back, his athleticism is, it's still, I still think there's a veteran coming in. Yes, but. Or you could be a draft pick too. You never know.
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B
As I, as I said in the last video, the Bills source, I was saying was in the Bills were in the market for a linebacker in safety. That's not breaking news. But they obviously checked safety, their big one off the list. As we approach 3 o' clock or 2:30 on Wednesday.
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A
Do Bobby Wagner next.
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B
Seriously?
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C
Yeah, I would, I would. I mean, I like Bobby Wagner a lot.
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A
Yeah.
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C
You know I mean they. But that, that's going another level. You're going to pay more. Yes, certainly for him. So. Yeah, so we'll see what they end up doing. And you know, now they have, you know, appears to be Aaron Rodgers to.
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A
Yeah, let's talk about that.
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B
Can I go first?
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A
Yeah.
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B
I hate this dude.
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A
You went backwards hat.
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B
Yeah. Great, great quarterback. But if I'm the Jets, I think you are playing with absolute fire. This guy is. I'm not even. We won't even do the drugs and darkness. I, I just think he's a guy that is half out. Like, like, like he seems like he's, you know, he goes on Pat McAfee Show. Great show. I, I was glued to every minute of it. But this thought that, you know, Aaron's like, why is everybody talking about me? And why does everybody care what I'm doing? You know, the world can go around, you know, go on without me. All these things, it's like, no, you are, like, you are the most talked about person. You are Aaron Rodgers. Like everything you do is a headline. And then he acts like, why is everybody talking about me? And then, and then to say that, you know, the media lives rent free in that guy's head and he will say that he doesn't care, which only means the media has a penthouse suite in his brain.
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C
He's a 13 year old on TikTok is what he is. Like he's whining, he's whining about attention and again, he's going to draw attention. You're a starting quarterback in the NFL. I mean, you know, Baker Mayfield gets attention, by the way.
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B
Yes.
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C
How about that upgrade?
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B
Yeah.
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C
Tweeted they went from a sixth round pick to the first overall pick as their quarterbacks in Tampa. What a big move that is. But in terms of Aaron Rodgers, like, he knows this and he's still somehow that guy making $50 million this year with his MVPs and he gets his little shots and oh my Covid, MVPs because he thinks people are taking shots at him. He's a baby. He's a talent. He's a baby. But I will tell you this, it's worth it for the Jets. I hate it, but it's worth it for the Jets. They had no quarterback. They've been irrelevant. It's not going to cost them a lot of. I don't know what the actual deal will end up being, but it's not going to cost him a lot. I mean, come on, they playing with Zach Wilson at quarterback or Jacoby Brissette, like, who's going to be their quarterback.
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A
I hear you on that. My thing is just, I don't think it. There's any way this could possibly amicably last, like even the year, even the season. Like.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Do you know what I mean? Just because I feel like he, I mean he has his wish list of players and he talked about.
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C
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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A
Not demand. It was a wish list.
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C
That's a fake. It's fake news.
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A
Oh, God.
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B
Even though the jets signed all of them.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Which it is. I saw someone comment like, it's interesting. He has all these like former packers receivers when he said the packers didn't have great receivers. Or.
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C
Hey, listen, Greg Jennings is going to be outstanding for the jets this year.
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B
I think Jordy Nelson, get the band back together.
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C
But Jenna, their quarterback play was worse than the Patriots last year.
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B
That's my point is that I think that if they got. They didn't need to go the Aaron Rodgers route, they didn't need to go this high to get this team to be a real playoff contender. I think if they would have gotten.
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A
I don't know, like Derek Carr.
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B
Derek Carr would have been a nice fit, like, like a middle of the road quarterback. They were playing with the bottom of the barrel quarterbacks and I think that if they could have improved to mediocre, I think they're a playoff team.
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A
Yeah. No, I agree with you. I just, I, I just really feel like there's. That is quite a screenshot. Poor thing. No, but I feel like there's just no way. It can, it can like last. It's, it's gonna end well. There's no way. He's too, he's too. Not the word. Dramatic isn't right. He's like a petulant child though.
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B
Yeah. And the fact that he said he was going into his darkness retreat. Which is fine, if that's what you want to do. I know they talked about imparting my take and all this other stuff. It would be great. It would be great to just. Hey, Mike, welcome back. It would be great.
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C
I got guys doing work in my house and it literally just went poof. Like it was. So I, I think the power went off real briefly. So that was kind of wild. Maybe they were just telling me I've talked too much today.
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B
No, we kept going. We kept going. It was.
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C
Oh, I know.
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A
You guys did great screen grab, by the way.
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B
But Jenna, like you were saying, like petulant child. Like he said that when he went into his darkness retreat. Which sounds great. If I could just go sleep for four days without a kid, like, I would absolutely take it. But the fact is, is that he said he was 90% retired. Like, that's never a good thing when you're going to invest in some of this.
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C
Yeah.
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B
Like, oh, hey, by the way, like, I'm really in on this, but before I went and hung out in a tree, I was ready to retire.
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A
Well, my thing is, like, if it has to work right away, like, it has to immediately cut on a click because if things don't get off to a good start, like, there's only room for just bickering and all of that.
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C
Yeah.
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A
I just feel like when he's. He has his. He has his list of demands or his wish list or whatever you want to call it, although he won't admit to it, like, there's just. Again, there's no way it's gonna end well. Look how toxic it's been with the Packers.
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C
Yeah.
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A
There's no way going to New York and even larger market, all the. The media scrutiny, which is real. Like, there's going to be comments about it, articles, all this stuff, and especially the way he. His attitude towards reporters.
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C
Like, he loves the attention, loves it, loves it. He's a phony. By the way, Dan's calling his adorable daughter, Aaron Rodgers, because she goes to bed with a list of demands. He's got to get her to listen.
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B
Guys, I. You have no idea right now. It's, it's, it's. I need a vacation. I need a vacation.
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C
You need the Darkness retreat.
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B
Yes. Yeah, I, I text Jenna that it's a hostage negotiation. Every night we go to bed. Two minutes in the chair.
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C
I feel like the packers or the jets right now. Yeah.
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B
Two minutes in the chair. No, no. Two minutes here. No, the door open this much. No. Door open this much. Don't close the door. I don't literally.
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A
Aaron Rogers and Shane, and we're potty.
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B
Training for everybody else at home for all the. This, well, young parents. We're potty training too. So this is just.
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C
And I believe the jets are going to need to do that with Aaron Rogers.
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A
I mean, okay, we. We joke about how bad it could go, but in terms of the division, let's talk about what it means, because while I don't think Rogers will be in New York long, because I think he will retire within the next two years, I believe personally, at the same point, like the jets now become. I mean, they had the. The markings of A great team last year without. With bad quarterback play. But now you talk about that defense, the offensive weapons, a head coach like the division got better.
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C
Oh, no doubt. Oh, no doubt. I mean, let's be honest. There is three talented teams, very talented, all with legit quarterbacks at different levels. I would still say Josh Allen, Aaron Rodgers. Tua. Good. When Tua's healthy, he's good and he's got weapons. Rogers is Rogers. Allen is a better quarterback now than Rogers.
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B
Correct.
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C
But he'll be, you know, that way, man. Right now, New England, I mean, we're a long way from the season, but that roster pales in comparison to the division. There is a clear line after those three. You're going to see people picking any of those three teams to win the division. I still think the Bills are the best team, but you can absolutely make a case for the other two. Yeah, New England is clear four. Somebody's got to convince me otherwise. Do you guys see any way that they're not the clear fourth team right now?
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B
No. And I appreciate Aaron Rodgers coming to the jets because I think that if you are somebody that likes to bet on futures of the you know who winner wins the division, I think you're gonna get the Bills now at a much better price than what you were before because now the jets are going to be this sexy pick. So I think you'll get the Bills at a better value because I still think they are. I still think they're the top. I don't think this window is closed. The jets fans will be insufferable for the next few months. They will be insufferable. But I, I just. I still don't think they're on par.
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C
Yeah, they don't. They don't bother me as much because they've been so bad and irrelevant. It's a New York City irrelevant team. Yeah, it has been. This makes them relevant. It just does. And so definitely, you know, his desperation.
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A
Oh, my gosh. It is interesting, though, to see the. The demise of the Patriots. Almost.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Like, I mean, I don't want to say I feel bad for Mac Jones, but at the same point, like, who's he gonna throw the ball to? Like.
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C
Yeah, I mean, they're, they're receiver. They gotta do something big. They got to do something because he's got. He's got nobody. Kobe Myers was a good player. He's got nobody right now to throw the ball. And by the way, Aaron Rodgers, I saw Chris Long saying it. It's like people who say, I don't want to be like my father. And then they're like their father.
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B
Oh, it's Farf.
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C
He's far.
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A
It's so true.
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C
I mean, not the part about Favre with his whatever level of criminal activity that's been alleged against. I'm just talking about being a bad dude and just an annoying, attention seeking, you know, guy. I mean, Farv did some pretty bad things too. We'll see what. What's on Roger's phone when he goes to the chats. I don't think he's going to go down that far route, but he's just an annoying guy. He. He gets you to the point, great player, and move on, you know, they got to move on. So it's fun.
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A
What if the jets make all these moves and then Rogers, it doesn't work out very.
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B
I think it's 50. 50.
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C
Like, oh, no. Green Bay wants it to happen. It's going to happen.
- [28:46]
A
No, he's not saying it's the deal happening, but like saying like, you make all these moves, you sign these guys, you do all this work, like, and it just. Rogers, his arm is shot. He's not into it. He's.
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C
You just turn it over to Zach Wilson.
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B
Oh, that's right. Zach Wilson is going to make Aaron Rodgers life a living hell. That's gonna be great.
- [29:08]
C
Yeah, Zach Wilson, you know, they'll just go to the clubs.
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B
You know, Roger's mom.
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C
They'Ll be at the clubs together.
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B
Okay.
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A
All right. Anything else, gentlemen?
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C
No, let's wait till Bean does something else and we'll be back on again.
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A
I want to go to the gym today, so if Brandon Bean could just chill out for a second.
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C
Yeah, well, he knew Dan was upset with him, so.
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A
Yeah, he made a move. That move.
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B
You're welcome. Please.
- [29:43]
A
You'Re just. You're funny to me. All right, please be sure to, like, comment. And most importantly, subscribe to the Buffalo plus podcast here. We always appreciate it. Thank you for joining us here. From Mike and Dan, I am Jenna. We will see you next time on Buffalo Plus.
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B
And might be an Aruba or minutes.
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A
You're gonna be skyping in. Beer in hand. Corona Light.
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C
It's a bad week to be a.
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A
Corona Light in Aruba.
- [30:12]
C
It's Belashi down there.
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A
Oh, excuse me. Belashi.
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C
Yes.
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A
Okay, that's true. All right. For Mike, Dan, myself. We'll see you next time here on Buffalo Plus. Thanks for joining.