Brandon Beane BLASTS 'WR critics': REACTION to the Bills GM with WGR's Jeremy White

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Podcast Summary

Buffalo Plus: A Buffalo Bills Podcast

Episode: Brandon Beane BLASTS 'WR critics': REACTION to the Bills GM with WGR's Jeremy White
Date: April 29, 2025
Hosts: Mike Catalana, Jenna Cottrell, Dan Fetes
Guest: Jeremy White (WGR 550)

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode dives into the fiery comments made by Buffalo Bills GM Brandon Beane during his appearance on WGR 550, where he forcefully pushed back against criticism of the team’s approach to the wide receiver position during the 2025 NFL Draft. The Buffalo Plus crew breaks down Beane’s passionate defense, the wider debate around how the Bills invest in wide receiver talent for Josh Allen, and features Jeremy White—the radio host whose show sparked Beane's reaction. The panel dissects both the football reasons for fans’ concerns and the emotional energy swirling around the topic in Buffalo.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Beane's Fiery Defense of Buffalo’s Draft Approach

• Beane’s main argument: Critics’ focus on WR is “one of the dumbest arguments” he’s heard. He pointed to last year’s offensive point totals and playoff performance without Stefon Diggs, arguing the current WR group is an improvement (02:00–02:54).

  • Quote (Brandon Beane, 02:00): “We just scored 30 points in a row for eight straight games… No one scored more points than the Buffalo Bills, including the super bowl champions… How is this group not better than last year’s group? About wide receiver is one of the dumbest arguments I’ve heard.”

• Beane’s comments were passionate but quickly read as dismissive, especially his suggestion that WR worries are "what fantasy football people want to know” (03:49).

  • Quote (Dan Fetes, 03:49): “He woke up and chose violence… I respect the fire… but it came off a little dismissive.”

2. Frustration With WR Draft Strategy: Is It Justified?

• The Buffalo Plus team acknowledges Bean's overall roster-building success but insists it’s fair to challenge his limited draft investment in wide receiver. They point out that the position has rarely been addressed before Day 3:

  • Only Keon Coleman (2024, 2nd) and Gabe Davis (2020, 4th) are notable top picks; most WRs have come from late rounds or free agency (05:19).
  • Quote (Mike Catalana, 05:19): “Since Josh has been there, they’ve drafted seventh round, sixth-round [WRs]… Never a first [rounder].”

• The hosts argue that Josh Allen has overachieved with limited WR talent, and adding more high-end WRs could push the team over the hump (04:14–05:19).

  • Quote (Jenna Cottrell, 04:14): “Imagine giving Josh Allen more… More money is better, more talent is better… why not have more?”

• The point is made: Top teams (Chiefs, Ravens, Packers) constantly add WR talent—even when already strong at the position (09:13).

  • Quote (Jenna Cottrell, 09:16): “All these teams are trying to make their rosters better… I wonder why they didn’t add a guy earlier on.”

3. Is Criticism of Beane Fair? The Fan/Expert Perspective

• There’s a broader debate about whether fans/media have the right to question the GM, with consensus that being critical is both fair and necessary for a successful franchise.
  • Quote (Dan Fetes, 09:53): “That’s like saying Sean McDermott knows more than us, but he was wrong for going for it or not going.”

4. Jeremy White’s Insider Insight

• Jeremy White’s take: The receivers-needing-upgrade narrative isn’t just noise—historically, Beane hasn’t drafted WRs high, and even with recent investments in Coleman and Kincaid there are lots of unknowns (13:01–14:32).

  • Quote (Jeremy White, 13:11): “Should we start acting as if Brandon Beane doesn’t prioritize the position?… He came at us like we were trashing the whole draft class and the whole process.”

• White stresses: Drafting WRs is “good business” because it’s more cost-effective than free agency (16:24).

  • Quote (Jeremy White, 16:24): “If you draft receivers, you save more money by drafting receivers. So financially, it just makes sense.”

• He reiterates that even a mid-round WR pick has a much higher ceiling than depth RBs or blocking TEs (18:51).

  • Quote (Jeremy White, 18:51): “The best case scenario for a WR in the fifth round is Stefon Diggs.”

• White points out, despite Josh Allen’s MVP season, Bills' passing yards declined and the offense still lacked a go-to weapon in crunch time against the Chiefs (20:26).

  • Quote (Jeremy White, 20:26): “I don’t need 32 points per game in the regular season… but in those big moments, who are you going to go to?”

5. Stagnation vs. Improvement Debate

• The panel challenges the logic of standing pat based on last year’s offensive success, noting the NFL is about constant improvement and “every year is different” (32:59, 37:05).
  • Quote (Jenna Cottrell, 32:59): “We have enough or that we’ve done enough, so we’re fine… I just didn’t like the vibe.”
  • Quote (Jenna Cottrell, 37:05): “Just because you had a good year, one year does not mean you’re going to have a great or better year the next year.”

6. Realistic Evaluation of Current WR Depth

• Acknowledges that current Bills WRs—Khalil Shakir, Curtis Samuel, Josh Palmer, Keon Coleman—have promise, but each comes with question marks (12:05, 36:12).

  • Injury risks and development not being linear is a major concern.

• The conversation on “everybody eats” vs. needing a go-to guy in critical moments re-emerges (42:48).

  • Quote (Mike Catalana, 42:48): “If a guy excels and becomes the number one guy… he eats a little bit more. There’s nothing wrong with that.”

7. Defensive Investment and Opportunity Cost

• The panel suspects the reason WR hasn’t been a draft focus is resources continually dumped into the defensive line with middling returns (25:50, 35:40).
  • Quote (Jeremy White, 25:50): "The defensive line has been his [Beane’s] Waterloo. It’s been the place he’s had to just put so many resources because it’s just not good enough.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Brandon Beane, 02:00:
  “About wide receiver is one of the dumbest arguments I’ve heard.”
• Jenna Cottrell, 04:14:
  “Imagine giving Josh Allen more… more talent is better.”
• Mike Catalana, 05:19:
  “They have not invested in the draft… and Jeremy [White] mentions this too, they’ve invested a lot in running back. They’ve invested a lot in the D-line. There’s other positions. They've just left that one to Josh Allen.”
• Jenna Cottrell, 32:59:
  “This thought of, I've done enough… I think it’s a dangerous game.”
• Jeremy White, 16:24:
  “If you draft receivers, you save more money by drafting receivers. So financially it just makes sense.”
• Jeremy White, 20:26:
  “When you’re this good, that’s all there is to do—you gotta be nitpicky… I look at the last drive of the season and I’m thinking, man, if only I had a downfield weapon I feel like I could have used in the Chiefs game.”

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment / Quote | |------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:00 | Beane’s passionate pushback; “dumbest argument I’ve heard” | | 03:49 | Hosts comment on Beane's fiery demeanor and “fantasy football” jab | | 04:14 | Jenna: Why not give Allen more weapons | | 05:19 | Mike: Breakdown of Bills' WR draft history | | 09:16 | Teams (Ravens/Chiefs/Packers) continue to add WR talent | | 13:11 | Jeremy White joins, outlines WR critique and Beane’s draft tendencies | | 16:24 | White: The economics of drafting WRs | | 18:51 | WRs bring much higher upside than “blocking TEs” or late RBs | | 20:26 | White: Playoff moment, lack of difference-makers in clutch | | 25:50 | Reflection on "defensive line as Waterloo" for Beane | | 32:59 | “This is a dangerous game”—panel discusses risk in standing pat | | 37:05 | Sustaining success is difficult; last year ≠ this year’s results | | 42:48 | “Everybody eats” vs. needing elite WRs in big moments | | 45:36 | Big-moment missteps by Bills WRs in recent years |

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Episode Takeaways

• The WR debate isn’t going away. The panel, along with Jeremy White, makes a strong case that questioning the Bills’ long-term approach to providing Josh Allen with premier pass-catchers is fair—especially at the margins where playoff games are won or lost.
• Brandon Beane showed rare emotion—but may have inadvertently stoked the debate further. His dismissive tone and focus on last year’s offensive stats seemed to frustrate both fans and analysts.
• Resource allocation (defense vs. offense) and cap management are central to the Bills’ long-range challenge. Drafting receivers offers better financial and upside value compared to the persistent, expensive re-tooling of the defensive line.
• Sustained NFL success requires continued improvement. Resting on 2024’s success is risky, and all agree: the next WR question is not about regular-season points, but about answers in the biggest games.

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Transcript

[A]

Well, you guys were in 2018 about Josh Allen. You guys wanted Josh Rosen and now you guys are that we don't have a receiver. I don't get it. Like about wide receiver is one of the dumbest arguments I've heard.

[B]

This is the Buffalo plus podcast brought to you by Connors and Ferris.

[C]

All right, welcome back to the Buffalo plus podcast presented by Connors and Ferris, Mike Catalana, Dan Fates, I am Janet Cottrell. Please be sure like comment, subscribe and share. This is not an emergency podcast, but an urgency podcast because time sensitive podcast. Time sensitive pod. We're going to talk about Brandon Bean's comments on wgr. We're also going to hear from Jeremy White, one of the hosts of the WGR show that Brandon Bean was on. We're going to break it all down about a little bit of the controversy, how people are feeling. But first, Mike, I want to start with kind of what was said on the radio this morning.

[D]

Yeah, Bean woke everybody up this morning. I think it was. Let's start with this before we get 3 million comments telling everybody is negative. Brandon Bean has helped build a team that has been right there. So close. All right. But with great success becomes great expectations. This team has not been good enough to get to the super bowl, which is what you all want, right? So don't tell me that there isn't room to critique. And I think on WGR this morning there was a level of understanding of what the Bills did in the draft of going for defense. Everybody knows they needed defense being got a lot of defense, but wide receiver they didn't look at until the seventh round. So that was the comments going in until Brandon Bean had his regular call in. And when he called in to Jeremy and Joe, as they say, the GM came in hot.

[A]

Just listen to the last few minutes of your show before I came on. Waiting on your.

[C]

All right.

[A]

Sounds like 2018 all over with you guys.

[B]

Well, we're very. How so?

[A]

Well, you guys were in 2018 about Josh Allen. You guys wanted Josh Rosen and now you guys are that we don't have a receiver. I don't get it. Like we just. Hold on, let me talk. We just scored 30 points in a row for eight straight games.

[B]

We a year ago.

[A]

I get you guys asking why we didn't have receivers, but I don't understand it now. You just saw us lead the league in points. When you add all the postseason, no one scored more points than the Buffalo Bills, including the super bowl champions. So you just saw us do it without Stepon Diggs, same group. How is this group not better than last year's group? Like, I don't like. Our job is to score points and win games. Where do we need to get better defense? We did that. So I get it. You got to have a show and you gotta, you gotta have something to about. But about wide receiver is one of the dumbest arguments I've heard.

[E]

Yeah, I think they were joking around that Bean woke up and chose violence. And I, I respect that and I understand part of where beans coming from because it had a little bit to me, the vibe of the end of the season press conference. He was kind of talking about, what are you going to do to get over the hum? And he was kind of like pushing back and it was a little bit of that emotion, anger, like we're close and we're going to keep, we're going to keep knocking on the door until we get there. And I respect the, the fire, the passion, the emotion of standing by your decisions, but it came off a little dismissive and it came off a little bit. And like I said, we joke around with Jeremy in a second. But about the, the fan, he made a comment about like, well, that's what fantasy football people want to know. And, and that I think to me that struck the wrong nerve, at least for me.

[C]

Do you feel like that? I mean, it seemed like that definitely did strike a nerve.

[D]

Well, what I want to know from you, Janet, is Josh is awesome, right?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Is there an NFL rule about maybe not being able to make his job a little easier? I mean, look, they have good players, but advancing that wide receiver room might make it a little easier for your superstar quarterback.

[C]

That was. So we did our post draft recap and one of the points that I had on it was that I wish the Bills addressed wide receiver before the seventh round. A lot of times seventh round guys are not, they're definitely not a lock to make the roster. And that position, what will happen with that? The reason I said that is because Josh Allen is phenomenal and what he has been able to do, as you know, he's the NFL mvp, so he has done, he has done more with less throughout the years, especially last season. But imagine giving Josh Allen more. Like, I, I just don't think that there's an issue with wanting to have more talent around Josh Allen. And I'm not saying that needed to be a first round pick or even a second round pick, but I just thought earlier on than the final round it would have been important to add a guy that had Some of the traits that you want to see. And, and that was my critique of wanting to have a wide receiver drafted earlier on because Josh Allen, the way I think about it is like, do you want more money? Like, more money is better, more talent is better. Like, you can survive on less. Sure, but why not have more?

[D]

If you look at their history, since Josh has been there, they've drafted seventh round, sixth for wide receiver. Seventh round, sixth round, sixth round, fifth round, round. They went once in the second round, which was last year with Keon, and once in the fourth, which was Gabe Cabe Davis and then in the fifth, Khalil Shakir. Never a first. And I understand they took a tight end there when they got Dalton Kincaid, never in the third. It's just been a place that oddly, they've done pretty well and certainly in free agency or in trades. Like you mentioned, they got the digs trade and he was great. Beasley was really, really good. Emmanuel Sanders, Sanders, Brown, those guys were really good. They have not invested in the draft. And Jeremy mentions this too about they've invested a lot in running back. They've invested a lot in the D line. There's other positions. They've just left that one to Josh Allen. Basically here, Josh make it better.

[E]

Yeah. And he was. Other points that Bean had was that he didn't see the wide receiver as a glaring hole in, in this offense. I would beg to differ. And, and I think part of the reason, and again, before people start saying we're. We're negative or nitpicking or anything like that, like all of us here had the Bills winning the division, possibly going deep as who knows what would happen in the playoffs. So, like, this is not it. And I think we. I was replying to one of the comments and I was like, I even thought that we said one of us was like, if Josh succeeds with this group of wide receivers when we were sitting there at training camp, he's going to be in the competition because of the narrative. And the narrative was he didn't have a lot. So it's kind of tough to hear a GMT wasn't a glaring hole. But you're not sure about what you have in Keon Coleman, you're hoping Curtis Samuel, you're hoping Dalton Kincaid all take these next steps forward. But you had those same hopes last year. Mike and Josh, while he was unbelievable and we all said he was the mvp, he had one. He had less passing yards than he had in his best seasons.

[D]

Yeah, it goes back to 2019, but since he had that few yards and total touchdowns have been higher every year. And he was awesome. Like we said he was awesome. But there, you know, they also, they went out and tried to get Amari Cooper.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Because they didn't think there's nothing that didn't really work. And Mack Hollins came in and was really good and now he's gone. So there is a spot there. And they brought a wide receiver in, Elijah Moore for a visit. So they want to address it. But the main reason we were talking is because it was a Brandon Bean show today.

[C]

Yeah, I just, I was surprised by how, how fiery he was and I feel like that's why to me, it did feel like it, it struck a chord. But I guess I just look at it as, yeah, the Bills have, have been a great team. They have had sustained success, but that is always taking more and more effort to do that. And that's, that's what good teams do. You constantly are trying to add very talented players. And we have talked about on podcasts before how the Bills have great depth guys, they can make big guys, place your small guys, play big.

[E]

Yep.

[C]

But also you need the top end talent or guys that possess those traits and maybe coach them up. But yeah, I just, I was frankly very shocked at. And.

[E]

I was shocked you were fiery today in the group.

[C]

Well, I just was. I. I was.

[E]

I've mowed the lawn. I've calmed down a little bit.

[C]

That's how I feel. I do feel like I've calmed down. I guess. I guess it just surprising. I don't think it's preposterous to want the Bills to have a better wide receiving core. And for the people like, hey, the Bills have a, you know, a top whatever receiving court. You look at the talent that's out there. I mean, the Bengals drafted wide receiver. The Ravens drafted wide receivers like every team.

[E]

The Packers.

[C]

Yeah, I'm sorry, the Bengals did not. The Chiefs did. The packers, the Ravens, like all these teams are trying to make their rosters better. And I don't think it's a disservice to ask or to have the critique of. I wonder why they didn't add a guy earlier on.

[E]

I think that's the one thing that kind of irks me a little bit and maybe something that I've seen. And again, maybe it is just living on the Internet more or maybe it's more living in the comment section. This thought of Bean knows more, the scouts know more. You can't be critical of what Bean does or do. And I just don't think that that's fair. I don't think that's accurate.

[D]

Well, of course, that's like saying Sean McDermott knows more than us, but he was wrong for going for it or not going.

[E]

You're all critical of what Sean McDermott's plays are, but Brandon Bean now, this week, and I get it, it's the honeymoon phase. You want all of your team's players that you draft to be all pros, and they're all great and they're all special and they're all going to be impact starters. And that's not always the case because for everybody that says, well, trust being like, he drafted Kyrie.

[D]

Yeah. By the way, I think all of us agree this team needed an influx of defense.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

There is no question.

[E]

And we recapped it and I said, I love that. This. The fact. And we could talk more about Dion Walker and how the fact of. There is 0.001% of human beings that walk around the earth like that guy.

[D]

I'm happy all those guys are on the team. I just would like to have seen a really fast wide receiver join the Bills.

[E]

Yeah, they added speed. I would have liked speed on.

[C]

I also think it's important to, like. I'm not saying the Bills needed to. I can't remember if I've even said this, but, like, I. The first round. No, the second. Like. I'm not saying you had to draft, you know, and pick a top 75 pick for a wide receiver, but I'm just saying I think it would have been important to address that need earlier. I just. I get.

[E]

So let it out.

[C]

No, I just. I do get upset. Not upset, but I just think. And I just think it's preposterous to think that, like, Josh Allen is such an incredible talent. Why do you want him to play with one hand tied behind his back? The wide receivers that the Bills have. Khalil Shakir is a phenomenal player. He's great. Why don't you want to add more players like him? You drafted a guy like that. Curtis Samuel, he played really well at the end of last season. He did deal with that injury that kept him off the field. There was disconnect early on. What happens if there's an injury Again with that, Matt Collins is now in New England. You brought in J. Josh Palmer. I think he could be good, but we don't know what that will look like. You're expecting Keon Coleman to take a step up. He had the injury last season. Players don't linearly linear. Linearly.

[E]

Development is not linear.

[C]

Thank you.

[E]

I got you.

[C]

Just because a player's entering year two doesn't mean that they're going to be better than year one. We saw that with Dalton Kincaid.

[D]

I'm just stunned. Dan had the cr.

[C]

I know, I know. I just. I got. I got so flustered.

[E]

That's how, you know, Jetta is so fired up. Is that I'm correct.

[C]

I got flustered. But my. My point is, is that the Bills receiving core is fine, but why wouldn't you want to add more talent to that? And when people are going to say, oh, well, the Bills didn't lose the AFC championship because of their offense.

[A]

And.

[C]

And I think that is a reductive point.

[D]

Love that word, by the way. We were all stunned this morning. You know who was really stunned? Jeremy White.

[C]

All right, Jeremy, thank you so much for coming on the show. Quiet Monday morning for you.

[B]

The usual, right? Just, you know, Josh Rosen, Josh Allen that comes up every day on our show from the GM of the Bills. Yeah. Quite a Monday.

[C]

I just want to kind of hear your thought process and just kind of what you take of what went down and kind of your point as well about wide receiver and why you think that is important for this Bills team.

[B]

So, I mean, admittedly, I am the. The biggest wide receiver we need. I mean, wide receiver train. Just something to talk about, have a little fun. And last year was big for this, and it's been big for a couple years. And even this year, I feel like I was kind of pretending we're probably not going to do it in a big way, but it's something they should look at in the third or fourth round, which I feel like the Bills kind of expressed that that might be a spot for them. So we do our segment with Sal going through the whole draft class. I mean, in the segment before Brandon bean, we were 10 defensive backs deep before I brought up. All right, well, Sal, the other story is wide receiver. You know, they didn't really address it. A seventh round pick, isn't it? It's got to be one of the stories of the draft. So the question I have is, should we start acting as if Brandon Bean doesn't prioritize the position? Which I think is a fair question to ask given they don't really draft it all that high. They traded the one for Diggs, and past that it's, you know, Keon Coleman and Gabe Davis and Khalil Shakir, and it always takes a back seat. And he came on and said, I heard you talking about it and came at us like we were trashing the whole draft class and the whole process. I feel like he got bad information along the way because it really wasn't the tone of the morning. But he wanted to make a point about wide receiver and how he feels they are more than adequate there. And he even referred to the idea of complaining about receivers being one of the dumbest ideas he could hear.

[D]

Jeremy, I want to ask you about you. You talked about Keon and the year before. They go with the tight end. So pass catchers both times. If those guys were looking like they were exceptional to this point, it probably wouldn't even be a conversation. Right. He invested a second and a first in the last two rounds. I mean, the tight end's been okay. Keon, lot of questions they have questions about him. Doesn't that play into the whole thing?

[B]

You would think. And you know, for them to be so.

[E]

Or for.

[B]

For being. To be so defensive on the receiver. Last year you traded for one midseason because it wasn't working out well enough. And even on the straight numbers game of it, they lost two and added one. So even if you liked your plan from last year, you're still one short. So it seemed to me, you know, they have these needs, defensive tackle and corner two and young edge.

[D]

But.

[B]

Right. Maybe that's a part of it. Maybe he feels like anybody wanting a wide receiver isn't giving enough credit to Coleman and Kincaid and what they can still ultimately become. But even if they are great, I think a fourth round receiver would make a. Would make a lot of sense. Sean McDermott talked about stretching the field horizontally, horizontally and vertically. And they don't really have anybody that they've added to do that.

[E]

Yeah. And Jeremy, I think your point, because it's not just we joke around here and credit to you because I've told Brandon Bean to his face that I think the salary cap isn't real. And he never told me that was one of the dumbest things he's ever heard. So credit to you for actually topping that. But you talked about there's always substance in your thoughts and in your takes. And the one point that I really liked was you said it's good business to draft a wide receiver and lots of them because the Chiefs, the Packers, teams that have wide receivers still draft more wide receivers. Can you just talk a little bit more about the good business and your thoughts on that?

[B]

Sure. So just base it on salary. This is one of the reasons that teams stop. Stop drafting running backs early and they're back to it a little bit. But if you draft a running back with the fifth pick, that running back is like the sixth highest paid running back in football. And if you draft a receiver with that same pick, you're down to like the 40s. If the bills had drafted a wide receiver with their first round pick, he would have been. I think the number I saw was the 71st highest paid receiver. It's just getting free agents. We all know free agency is expensive, but not every position is created equally. The bills paid 8 million a year in three years for Curtis Samuel, who did not really produce in year one. And maybe he's got more to show. Josh Palmer, who's, I mean, castoff might be strong, but the Chargers said thank you for your services and drafted another one to pay 10 million for Josh Palmer. If you're someone that thinks enough about receiver, I need a defense.

[E]

You can spend that 20 million on the defense.

[B]

If you draft receivers, you save more money by drafting receivers. So financially it just makes sense. It's a position that gets chewed up. And if a guy doesn't last, you can send draft picks aside. If Curtis Samuel were a fifth round pick, you'd say draft somebody over top of him, who cares. But instead, because he's got three years in 24, I have to hold a place for him and that's just not good business.

[C]

I wanted to clarify too because I think sometimes looking at comments and stuff and seeing stuff on social media, it's like, why would the Bill spend a first round draft pick or a second round draft pick in your opinion? Did you expect them or want them to even go that higher? Were you thinking more meat and potatoes of the draft later on?

[B]

I would have done it anywhere. I definitely did not expect it in the first round. I thought the second round was possible. And the third round, I mean, they had two seconds. So I thought the second second round pick was a sweet spot. Then they go in the fourth round, they move up in the fourth. And right there, there are a couple nice ideas at 4th round receiver, Royals from Utah State, like people like that idea. The Chiefs take him, you know, so it's just, I don't need to be obsessed about any one guy. Kyle Williams was an idea I liked. And I went back to the whole draft and looked at every time the Bills picked. How many times did a receiver go right in front of him? And there were a couple times where it's two picks ahead, three picks ahead. And you know, most people say, well, don't drift off Your board, go ahead and just, you know, hey, sorry, nobody's there. We'll take a defensive tackle, we'll take a cornerback, and that's fine. But reality is, what's more important, a wide receiver in the fifth round or a blocking tight end?

[E]

Like, let's take it to, let's take.

[B]

It to what the best case scenarios can be. The best case scenario for a blocking tight end in the fifth round is he's on the field sometimes in sub packages. The best, the best scenario for a wide receiver in the fifth round is Stefan Diggs. You just, you get such inequalities for those ceilings that you're shooting for. And I think it's a Bills team that Bean has built very well. But if it's missing anything, it's missing some blue chip talents and taking a couple swings over the last couple of years, too. If they had just done that, we wouldn't be having this conversation. They've spent a lot of picks on running backs, a second, two thirds, a trade for Nahim Hines, Ray Davis. I've got all these picks on running backs that I could have just used on receiver.

[D]

Josh won the MVP last year. I don't know if you've heard this right. And so everybody says, look at what we did. He won the mvp. He won and he's awesome. We all know that. But a big part of the narrative of Josh winning was look at what he did it with. His numbers were down, his passing numbers were down, no question. And people talk about joining this group and where's that player going to be? Matt Collins walked in the building and caught more touchdowns than any wide receiver and was on the field for 66% of the snaps as a wide receiver. I think this idea that this room was so complete is a misnomer. And if Josh could do this all again, I think it's going to be difficult to repeat what he did with this same group and Josh Palmer this coming year. With the limited turnovers and all the things that went well last year, how can this group do this again and average 30 points again?

[B]

I mean, Josh Allen is probably that good and Joe Brady might just really be that good. And their offensive line is elite and James Cook could have another big season. I think they could put up 30 points a game. But, and this is, I think, a part of it, that it comes across, people don't like it. I mean, you guys know how this works. Oh, we're being nitpicky. Well, when you're this good, that's all there is to do you gotta be nitpicky? So you tell me 30 points per game, I say that's awesome. And then I look at the last drive of the season and I've got third down wide receiver screens, and we're lamenting what the Bills did on tush pushes. And I'm thinking, man, if only I had a downfield weapon, I feel like I could have used in the Chiefs game. I don't need 32 points per game in the regular season. I would take the exact same production. But in that moment, in those big moments, who are you going to go to in the regular season during Stefan Diggs career, they went to Diggs in those spots and it worked. It worked in Arizona before the hell Murray. It worked in Detroit on Thanksgiving. And Diggs never really showed up like that in the playoffs, but they had guys they would really feel like they could go to. And right now, you know, that fourth and five play, it looks like it's going to be a little orbit to Shakir out of the backfield on 4th and 5 on the road in the AFC championship game. Instead, it's a prayer to Kincaid because of a blown coverage. The whole thing just feels like I, I know we're getting at the very, very small margins, but man, they threw so many screens. And if you want to make this a point about Josh, two minutes left in the game. Josh Allen is at his own 20. He needs a field goal or a touchdown. If you're telling me he's dropping back and throwing the ball, I like your chances. If you're throwing me. If you're telling me he has to throw screens, I'm thinking, how did we get here where you're taking the brilliance away from the quarterback because the ball's out of his hand right away. And now it's Amari Cooper that's going to make the play on third and 10 instead of Josh Allen. So, you know, I feel like this is how to get more out of Alan, how to bring more out of him, because he is a wizard.

[E]

Yeah. And we're. We're talking to Jeremy White from WGR550. I do have. I took notes. I listened to your whole hour. I took notes on it. I do have to come clean for something of myself, too. I was an MVS truther. You and Joe were talking that there were. And I thought I was going to get a mention there because I was. Bovet likes to dunk on me for it. They like to dunk on me for it here. So I wanted to come there. Come come true there.

[B]

I'm a Tyrell Shavers truther, so, like, that's still available.

[E]

So, yeah, my last one is just. You talked about this. Was the Bill's GM giving fans bulletin board material. I thought that was really interesting because I think you're right. They have won a lot. And I thought at Bean's end of the year press conference, he was fiery, a little bit there, too, and he was like, we're knocking on the door, we're gonna keep knocking on the door, things like that. But I thought your point was interesting. Could you just expand about, you know, giving the fans bulletin board material?

[B]

Well, it's one thing to say the board didn't fall that way. We. I mean, he has previously said, I'd love to have a Jamar Chase. I'd love to have a Tyree Kill. And instead, what he kind of did today was he mocked the idea that a receiver being added would help them or that they needed. It's almost like they want to do it without a receiver to prove people wrong, which I don't know. That doesn't. Doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. So the bulletin board material is. Let's say they have the exact same season or go out earlier and the defense doesn't come to play. Well, then that's McDermott to some degree. Or is that now on beam because you drafted all defense and we've seen your defense fail before. Are they coming up short because they're thin at receiver because Keon Coleman does not take a step or Josh Palmer doesn't draw enough coverage? They got five games, four games into the season last year and had to make a big trade. And by the way, when people asked about Amari Cooper, Bean went out of his way to say that they scored seven more points per game when Cooper was in the lineup. Okay, could bring him back because which is it that you don't need him or that you did need to trade for him? So I think the bulletin board material is that if he.

[D]

If it.

[B]

Whatever, they could score 30 again, and I guess he could stand on that again. But Bills fans A, appreciate how good the team is, but B, need it over the line. You got to get over the line for Josh Allen, and if you're failing him, really in any way, I think you're in the way.

[E]

How good is your fantasy football team? That's. That was my one other question I really had to ask you.

[B]

I've got some good ones. I have Allen, I cook. I got them a couple of places.

[D]

There you go, hey, I just want to say that about, we talked about the investment in it and wide receiver. I don't think there's any other position, any position on this team that they've put less resources in into in the draft. I look back, not only are the guys that they've picked in the seventh round, you know, the Ray, Ray McLeod's, Isaiah Hodgins, Marquez, Stevenson, Justin Shorter, some are not even in the league, never were in the league. I mean, when you look at what they've drafted, Khalil's been great. There should have been two more shots at a guy like him or earlier. Gabe in the fourth was good for a fourth and then, you know, played to his level and now Keon in the second. I think that's probably the biggest issue. If you would have invested more. My thought is part of the reason he's had to maybe not invest in much in wide receiver is because he's had to keep redoing it on the defensive line and now totally on the defensive line. Don't you think? Maybe it's just. I do. That defensive line has been his Waterloo here. It's been the place he's had to just put so many resources because it's just not good enough.

[B]

Yeah, I mean there's a draft where they go defensive end first and second round in Greg Rousseau and Boogie Basham. And this gets back to the conversation earlier about the good business. When that happened, a very quick point to go to was this is good business. Defensive end is really expensive. Get a first and a second. Those are cost controlled contracts. If they're good, that's awesome. If one of them is good, you have won because you drafted two defensive ends. Of course they give Vaughn the big money. They've chased Leonard Floyd, they chased Mario Addison, they consistently added this position at Oliver's with the 10th overall pick. You know, like the asset management on the defensive line and what they've put into that. They really haven't got the returns yet. So hopefully that changes and hope, you know, I'm optimistic about where they are and where their defense can be. So they'll keep chasing it, I guess, but eventually I think he's going to catch up with them. I just, I think that they need playmakers and if they get game records, if Bose is amazing and Max Hairston is amazing, they could be a number one defense and we won't really care until the playoffs. We've seen them be a number one defense and get shredded in the playoffs by Kansas City. You know, this past Postseason was a good example. Kansas City's offense was there to be had. They didn't have good games against anybody except the Bills. So all of a sudden the Bill's talent wasn't up to par. Everybody else had the talent.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

I hope that they have the talent. I hope they have the scheme to get over the line against the Chiefs or the Bengals or the Ravens. And that's one last part here, I'll say about this. Who thinks it's a good idea to stay still? Nobody in the league ever stays still. And for being to say we scored 30 points, what's the issue? Congratulations. Baltimore had a good year and they're going to try and make it better in Kansas City at a down year. And the Bengals are going to get a better defense this time. The idea that you're just going to stand still, I don't know why any GM ever would would plant that flag. That's kind of the bulletin board material moment. Like we were good enough. We're going to be good enough again.

[D]

He's giggling so much. He just wants to agree with you.

[E]

Well, no, we, we, we before we sat down and I just said, well, the Patriots are going to stink next year because they were stunk last year. That's, that's how the NFL works, right? It's for a very long time. That's what it stands for.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh my gosh. No, but I get it. In terms of sustained success is really hard to come by. The Bills have had a piece of that. But also how get over the hump. And that's something we have been talking about for years. Jeremy, thank you so much. Obviously everyone can find you on wgr, but where else people see and hear.

[B]

Your work mostly on WGR just started to, you know, getting the YouTube game with Joe Marino, the Locked on Bills podcast and Jerry O. Jerry Ostrowski. So we're doing a show twice a week on the Lockdown Bills channel. That's been a good extra degree of fun. So yeah, I'm in those spaces and I don't know everywhere else on the T ball field lately. My son just started. You'll see me out there.

[C]

We love it. Thank you so much for joining us, Jeremy. We really appreciate it. Thank you. We'll catch you next time.

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[C]

Thank you again to. Jeremy was a lot of fun. No, he's a very busy guy, so we appreciate the time.

[D]

Yeah, I thought he was really honest and look, he's a pro. He's on there with Brandon all the time. Listen, Brandon Bean's entitled to get fired up and he did.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. It just surprised us because I don't think this year there was as much talk about this being the vital need that it was the year before, 100%. Then they went out and spend the second pick, second round pick on Coleman. So it's the highest they've ever used.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

And even last year there were so many wide receivers in the draft. I think the thought was maybe they would have taken another one in the fourth or in the fifth. They decided not to do that. They decided to, you know, then use the third to get Amari Cooper. I keep going back to that because that's a valuable asset and you used it in the middle of the season.

[E]

Well, I always think about, people are asking me like, do you think the.

[C]

Bills will take you use that because you needed to use that because your wide receiving core was not good enough.

[D]

You are right.

[C]

That's true. Now did it pan out how you thought? No. But you made that move because you were like, oh, we got to add more to this receiving corp. Dan.

[D]

I always think about, I, I said, I think about like Donovan McNabb when they got to, you know, years ago and then his career. Tom Brady was so good and then they got him. Randy Moss.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

I'm not saying they were getting a Randy Moss level player here, but like he went from being so good to incredible that year. And I'm not, I'm just thinking, I. It's almost like I feel like Diggs got Josh to a certain point. Talent wise, Diggs should have ended up being better. I think 90% of that is on Diggs.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

But that level talent elevated Josh as good as he is now if you give him that. Oh my God, give him Jamar Chase like Burrows got.

[E]

Yep.

[D]

He's got two guys like that. Give him that level player and I think he would put up incredible numbers.

[E]

So the one thing I. Cause I instantly thought about Aaron Rodgers because I thought it was very funny at the draft. It's in Green Bay and they take a wide receiver in the first round. Yeah, like, I thought that, I thought that was just a really nice, subtle jab to, you know, that kind of thing. What my problem, and I get it, Aaron Rodgers does have a Super Bowl. He has one. And he's arguably a top five, top ten all time quarterback, so. Say what you want there. My one big thing that really kind of bothered me about being this morning was him consistently talking about last year. That kind of irked me.

[C]

So off the quote, we just scored 30 points in a row for eight straight games a year ago. I get you guys asking why we didn't have receivers, but I don't understand it now. You just saw us lead the league in points. When you add all the postseason, no one scored more points than the Buffalo Bills, including these super bowl champions.

[D]

I mean, that's factually accurate.

[C]

That is factually accurate.

[D]

I, I would say that they, they did it by limiting turnovers to an insanely low number.

[E]

Yep.

[D]

And Josh was great. He was smart with the ball, cooked it and fumbled the ball. Like all those things. Just law of averages. That's tough to repeat.

[E]

Yep.

[D]

And it did feel like it was a methodical way of scoring points. They did have a couple of games where they went high wire. Like the Rams game and the Lions game.

[E]

Yep.

[D]

Those two. Crazy, though. Yes. And the 49ers game. But for the most part, that's what it was.

[C]

Jack's game.

[E]

Yeah. Like this was to me, like, it's that thought of, like, we have enough or that we've done enough, so we're fine. Yeah. And I just didn't like the vibe because whenever we talk about, you talk to any team that has gotten close to the point that the Bills have constantly in the dance, just never getting over that line. Okay. Because when the final songs, they're left on the dance floor and they're watching the other two teams play. But this thought of, I've done enough. And when you talk to those teams, that was my point. I got lost for a second. They always say it's so tough to get back because every year is different. That's the first thing Sean McDermott will say at training camp is, it's a new team. We've got to build it from the ground up. You don't get to start a new season at the end of the book in the playoffs. You got to go through all this stuff before coaches. I've talked to the Amex head coach for the longest time, always talked about you have to reclimb the mountain. You don't get to start again at the summit, you have to climb back. So to sit there and rest your laurels on the fact of, hey, this is what we've done, guys. We're going to do it again. I think it's a dangerous game. If you believe in your system and you believe in what this offense has become and the pieces and everybody eats, that's great. But Mike, to your point about the. The they went 10 games without a running back fumbling a football like that's a dangerous game to play, in my opinion. And thinking that you're going to do what you've done, I, I think is a dangerous mindset and a dangerous way of being like, well, we're just going to roll the footballs out there and because we did it last year, we're going to do it again.

[C]

Yeah, It'd be one thing to say, hey, I really believe in our system, I really believe in our coaching, I really believe in our guys. I would have been like, okay, may I disagree with that. But you, you're saying, hey, we ten toes down on these guys in this system. But for him to say, it's one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard, I thought was pretty surprising.

[D]

What do you think Josh Allen thinks?

[C]

I was literally wondering this.

[D]

And listen, he's such a great player and been team guy all around, and he basically goes, oh yeah, get rid of Diggs, I'll win the MVP is what he did. Which is incredible. It's almost like to me, this is being just big picture here to say, I'll reward you with last year you did all this. Here's your shiny new second round, super fast outside X wide receiver. Now go play. That's what I just would have. And part of the reason, and I mentioned this and you heard me say it to Jeremy, part of the reason they've had to maybe not address wide receiver as much is because they've constantly had to fill that defensive line position because it just hasn't worked. And that is what has really hurt the team.

[E]

And also being on on WGR seem to show a lot of faith in what Josh Palmer can be.

[D]

Maybe.

[E]

And that. And again, they're in the building. So what they view a player as is probably, like I said, we were coming into this draft going, they might draft a safety. We don't really know because we're not in the building. And they obviously come out thinking, you know, Cole Bishop's the guy like, like, we, we are. We are going forward. So they think highly of him. So, like, I do understand that belief that they like their guys. That's fine. But let's not be numb or naive to the fact that in the AFC Championship game, your best wide receiver was Mack Hollins and you let him walk. So that, to me, is, is where this is a little bit frustrating to sit there and say we don't have a glaring hole when in the biggest game of the year, you need your big. Your best players to play great. And your first round pick from two years ago dropped a pass and Matt Collins is the only one catching third downs and touchdowns. Yeah, that to me was a concern.

[D]

Yeah. And Mac played a ton of snaps.

[C]

Really impactful ones.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I think almost like it's like the Bills, their job is sales and they're based on commission. And just because you had a good year, one year does not mean you're going to have a great year or a better year the next year.

[D]

Outstanding analogy. There we go.

[E]

That's.

[C]

But it's.

[D]

It is true.

[C]

It's true. And like, sustaining success in the NFL is really, really hard to do. The Bills have done a good. A great job.

[E]

Great job.

[C]

A great job of it. But just because they have doesn't mean. Look at the Bengals. They were phenomenal two seasons ago. Last season it was a train wreck.

[E]

Yep. Hoping, because this is so funny, we're going to hear a lot about this. Yep. We're going to hear a lot about this going into this, this training camp. Keon Coleman's going to develop. Duncan Cade's really going to emerge in the passing game this year.

[D]

Well, they better because.

[E]

And I go, weren't we saying that same exact thing right now? Last year you were saying, hey, you know, Keon, I know some of this tape and his 40 time, but he'll develop and he'll. He'll get there.

[D]

But even that. I'm sorry, I mean, but even that.

[E]

Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you.

[D]

But I'm going to interrupt you because you're in the middle of a point. Keon was a rookie. He had not been on the field. Now, we saw it for a year with Kincaid, it's two years. And they keep telling him to get. They need him to get bigger and stronger and to come back. So it's even more so with Keon now because we've seen a year of him on the field. We've seen flashes of him. But to Jenna's point before, with all these guys it is. We need more out of him. We need more out of him. We need more out of him. The only guy who is a proven guy, I would say right now in that group, Shakira is Shakir.

[C]

Yeah. And Josh Allen can mask a lot of mistakes. He absolutely, he is phenomenal. But also it is a long regular season and for as long as you need him to be in the playoffs and the run to the super bowl and to win a Lombardi. Wouldn't it be easier if Josh didn't have to put on the Superman cape every game?

[E]

Jalen Hurts was phenomenal in the Super Bowl.

[D]

Right.

[E]

But it was the back breaking plays by the big time guys around him. AJ Brown catches a touchdown and like some of those moments where it was just like, there's too many dudes out here.

[D]

Yeah, well, I mean, just in that game they had the fumble. He throws it deep to Devonte Smith for the touchdown. I mean, in that case they did it defensively to offensively dudes making plays for them and, and them scoring. It takes that.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

And maybe, maybe we say what's going to make it easier for Josh? I will say maybe a better defense will make it easier for Josh because they were not good last year and it's going to be more on McDermott and Babich this year. But they've taken a lot of heat. So they went out and got them more players. Let's see how those guys integrate into this team and try to make it a better team.

[E]

And again, I understand being kind of saying like, look, we've done a lot of good things.

[D]

They have.

[E]

And we needed to get defense, we need to get better on the defensive line. And I agree with all of those points. But when we talk a little bit about, you know, like I said, the one thing that kind of bothered me was like, look at what we did last year, things like that. Like, what if the Bills get a little bit more banged up this year? Dion Dawkins always talks about injury rate is 300% in the NFL. And I went back and looked at the three game stretch because in, in week seven, they traded for Cooper and they beat the Titans. They improved to five and two. Week eight, Cooper get, gets hurt in that game. That's the wrist injury game.

[D]

Right.

[E]

And Keon has the big time performance and you're like, whoa. Josh says after the game, when Keon knows where he's supposed to be, he's a great player. And you're like, this is this guy's springboard taking off. So they didn't have Cooper for the next game. That was week nine versus Miami. Okay, that was Tyler Bass's 62 yard field goal.

[D]

Right.

[E]

Josh only threw for 253 yards in that game. You're like, that's fine, right, Dan? Well, he threw 63 of them on a screen pass to Ray Davis. Okay. Or not a screen pass, a swing pass and Ray Davis took it to the house. In that game, only three wide receivers caught a pass. Shakir had 50, Hollins had five for 30 and Coleman had one catch. Don Kincaid was targeted 10 times in that game. Caught four passes for 30 yards. So that's the game at the end.

[D]

They were all bad passes.

[E]

Correct. At the end of that game, that's when Keon got hurt. So they were. They didn't have Cooper or Coleman for that game against indy in week 10. And they won 30 to 20. It wasn't really that close. But that was another game where there were only three wide receivers that caught passes. Hollands led the team with 86. Shakir obviously every game went 6 for 50 and Samuel went 4 for 35. Like it is tough to constantly be finding pass catchers like, like, like to spread it around. Like I know Diggs and the drama in, in the. Not necessarily the need for a number one guy, but when push comes to shove, like it also works. It works. It worked when Diggs was here because you knew where the ball like you knew you had a guy to go to. It's tough. I think when it's a revolving door at times.

[C]

Yeah. And I, I do think it's important. And we talked about like the defense did need help. I am fine with them and I figured that they would invest more draft picks on the defense than on the offense. Completely understandable. I understand people's opinions on that. Defense needs to be better in moments. All that stuff. You need to beef them up. The. The argument is just, you know, you drafted a receiver in the seventh round. I would have liked to have that have been earlier on in the draft. The meat and the potatoes of the draft. Maybe rounds three through five, maybe.

[E]

Bean just wanted to give us some content for Monday.

[C]

Well, you know what? Unintentionally like this is now a thing. You know like by his reaction, Jeremy said bulletin board. Yeah, by his reactions now it is a thing which honestly for a media person, it's great for us. We. We have content to talk about.

[D]

When we had the news conference the other day, I asked Josh about the everybody eats thing. He's wearing the hat and the whole thing and he's embraced the whole thing. But like, if a guy excelsior and becomes the number one guy and let's just. Like I said, let's say it's Shakir, you're going to feed him the ball more. So everybody eats a little less. He eats a little bit more. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that.

[E]

Let the big dogs eat.

[D]

And every top receiver doesn't have to be an ass.

[E]

Right.

[D]

They can. Like, Diggs was really good until it wasn't and then it went that way. But up to that point. So don't be afraid to get a contributing receiver. Like, if a rookie would have come in and did what Matt Collins did last year, people would be through the roof excited about what he could do. The next year was different. With Mack, he's an older player. You don't expect him to take the steps up. If that was a rookie, if that was Brian Thomas, Brian. I'm going to get a picture of Brian Thomas, put it over my shoulder. If it was Brian Thomas, you'd be so jacked for what he's going to do this year.

[E]

Do you feel better?

[C]

Yeah, no, I do. I mean, I. I actually don't. I actually don't because I know the comments are going to be really. Well, it's funny. I mean, they're gonna say they're gonna be negative about us being negative. I do think it's of. No. Brandon Bean confirmed on one Bill's Live that wide receiver Elijah Moore was in for a visit today.

[E]

Bean did say that minutes after the press.

[D]

Yeah, I mean, it's Elijah Moore, but they know they need more. By the way, Bean's still invited to the patio.

[C]

100%.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

This is.

[D]

We like being. I like the guy.

[E]

And if he likes dumb takes, I got plenty.

[C]

No, I. Absolutely. Yeah.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

And they've done a great job of building a really great.

[D]

You guys live through the bickering dumbass situations this franchise had. I appreciate he's gotten them here, but, you know, it's like. It's like your kid in high school and the parent.

[E]

Where are we going?

[D]

I'm gonna give you an analogy. The kid in high school and the parent is saying, do your work. Do your work. Because that day's gonna come when you're trying to get into that school you want to go to, and the answer is gonna be no, because you weren't doing what you need to do. So in this case, you're like, oh, we're fine. We're fine. Until that moment when this team Isn't fine. And you're gonna say, I wish we would have done more. I think they've done some for the defense and hope that's good, but, man, you'd be feeling a lot better if there was somebody flying down the sidelines.

[E]

Who is the guy? That was the Mac Collins before Matt Collins that you did a story with.

[D]

Trent Sherfield.

[B]

Thank you.

[E]

It's another thing, too, where it's like.

[D]

Drop the ball in a big spot.

[E]

Yeah. Well, that caught his. That's what I was just thinking. It's like, we're fine until that moment. And you're like, oh, yeah, this guy's there.

[D]

So they've been let down by Stefon Diggs. Big trade because he dropped one. Sherfield free agent signing. Dalton Kincaid, number one draft pick. All three in big moments. Did not come up with the ball.

[E]

Inaccurate throw.

[D]

Yeah. Because that's what Josh does. Josh is the problem.

[E]

I loved having Jeremy on.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[E]

Pro.

[C]

Pro's. Pro. Yeah. All right. Anything.

[E]

I'm sure the comments are going to be lovely.

[C]

Well, honestly, in the comments, let us know your thoughts. I'm sure you already are. But you know what your take of it is, and this is the best thing about sports is, especially this time of year. It's all about the discourse. It's all about the discussion.

[D]

Hey, I know more about television than any of our viewers, but they seem to criticize me.

[C]

That's a great little hall of Famer. Yeah.

[D]

You go to a restaurant, that chef knows more about food. I didn't like this.

[E]

Right.

[B]

Wow.

[D]

He knows more about food than you.

[C]

Yeah. It is a sales business.

[D]

Tell them, Jenna.

[C]

Just because you had a good year, one year does not mean the next year.

[D]

There's a phrase for that doesn't. Never mind. Somebody's going to write it in there. Past success does not equal past results.

[E]

Don't equal future success.

[D]

You're close to it. It's something very close to that.

[E]

Let him cook.

[D]

Dan's on the road today.

[C]

I. I know. I told myself I wasn't. I didn't think I got too triggered.

[E]

But I wanted you more triggered.

[C]

No, because that's because you were more fired up. I was. I was, but I had time to kind of level out. And everyone is. Look, I mean, everyone can have their opinion, all that stuff, but opinions are like. I just think sometimes it's armpits, some. Sometimes people don't want to hear the opinions. And that's like, just because you don't like what you're saying. What we're saying doesn't mean that there's not truth in it.

[D]

I'll set.

[E]

We're in the honeymoon phase, fans. Every draft pick is a steal that they got. I can't believe this guy fell.

[C]

And, like, hopefully, a lot of hopefully these guys pan out.

[E]

Like, Kaden Prather could be a guy.

[D]

Could be a dude.

[C]

You don't know. All right. For Mike Catalana and Dan Fates, I'm Jenna Cotrell. Please be sure to, like, comment, subscribe, and share.

[E]

Wow.

[C]

The comments. I'm scared. Did I already say for my Catalana? Okay. All right, good.

[E]

So rattle.

[C]

All right. Thanks for watching Buffalo Plus.

[E]

Conor McGregor, it's McGovern.

[C]

Thanks for watching Buffalo plus, presented by Connors and Ferris.