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'He's a WARRIOR': JOSH ALLEN and the BILLS beat the Jaguars to ADVANCE to Divisional Round
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Dan told me I can't say, what a game.
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So. Holy, what a game.
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I don't have to jump in the pool, but I need a cigarette. This is the Buffalo Podcast.
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All right, welcome back to the Buffalo Podcast. Mike Catalan and Dan Fates. I am Jenna Cottrell. Please be sure to, like, comment, subscribe and and share and wow. The bills winning this one 27. What a game.
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What a game.
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The Bills winning this one 27:24 over the Jags, advancing onto the divisional round of the playoffs. Josh Allen put on the Superman cape. Cole Bishop with a game ceiling interception. Mike, this one was a nail biter.
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It was all the way to the end. And you're thinking, oh, man, like, is this going to happen? Are they going to drive down and beat the Bills? Well, first of all, they were the ones who made the play offensively and scored. That's what they needed to do. And then the defense, it was complimentary. Football, was it perfect? Far from it. But when they needed to make plays, they made plays. That's what teams do that are going to win in the playoffs. And especially Dan winning on the road.
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I thought the Jags did a lot of things right to win that game. They just didn't have the right.
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Josh Allen.
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C
Yeah, that's what this came down to. I was super impressed by the defense. We will get into that a little bit. I'm super happy for Bill's fans, for Sean McDermott, for Josh Allen to get their first playoff win on the road in 33 years. For Josh, that's a big step for this team. It's a big step. Again, total team effort. But that back and forth performance in the fourth quarter and it seemed like, honestly, I showed you the one clip on the Josh Allen when he had a toss out to James Cook, it looked like he was playing with one foot. And that was unbelievable. The throat of Brandon Cooks, even Keon Coleman making a big play in this game. You know, you have Shaq Thompson with the interception. Jordan Poyer goes out. There's so much that went on in this game, and when push came to shove, Josh Allen makes plays in the final drive and Ryan Clark's got to be beside himself.
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Oh, yeah, he needs a cigarette. All right, we're going to talk about the injuries and other players that stood out, but I do want to start with just Josh Allen and what he was able to do, because you're right, battling being hurt the foot. The. At one point he hit his hand off of. I think it was Osiris Torrance's helmet. That seemed to be bothering him. I mean, he hit the turf or the field hard multiple times throughout this game. But four minutes left in this game, Bills were down four and Josh found a way.
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He's been in this spot before in the playoffs against Kansas City a couple of times and they did not come through as a team. He got help. Let's start with this. James Cook's been incredible this year. They said they were going to try to run it. The Jags had a good run defense, great run defense that played out in this game because the Bills did not run it well. And for them to produce offensively without James Cook being the guy with this group of receivers. Even losing. Gabe Davis was a big deal in this because it's another guy. And Shaver's banged up to, to the point. Cook stepping up, Kincaid making a play like they made plays in this game. But it started with the quarterback. And Dan's right, he wasn't. He wasn't healthy with his hand, his legs, stepping into throws. They ran the craziest tush push anyone's ever seen. They gained 11 yards.
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Osiris. Osiris Torrence, he pretty much carried Josh.
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Yeah.
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Josh even said, like, my feet aren't really even on the ground. And that is just a play. What were they talking about where guys got breaks in week 18? Sibo didn't. And so he was still playing through it. Again, just a. A gutty effort. It wasn't great. Mike, to your point, the fact that they weren't able to run the ball I thought was paramount. Like I thought it was. They had to do it to win the game. And the fact that they didn't and still won the game is a big testament to not only Josh Allen's play, completed 80% of his passes.
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He.
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The self scouting that we talked about of him taking the cheese and taking the simple throws. And when he said, man, I stink, I left so much out there. Not taking sacks. Yes. He was only sacked once, got hit just three times. So the offensive line did their part in the passing game. It wasn't as much in the running game, but credit to them, credit to Josh Allen to. To being able to find a different gear for this offense. And that to me, I was impressed.
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Find finding a different way. James Cook, 15 carries only I believe 46 yards on the afternoon must have been incredibly frustrating for him. But in different spots, other players stepped up. I mean, Khalil Shakir had a heck of a game. I know sometimes we joke about him being a safety blanket for Josh, but In these big moments, Khalil, Shakir is so sure. Do you see why that's the case?
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Can I say something? Do not throw anything at your monitor, screen, phone, whatever you're looking at. I thought the screen to Shakir worked in this game.
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It helps. It helps.
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No, no, no.
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It helps when he spins and breaks tackles. Yeah, well, that's part of the play.
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That's part of why they give it to him. They were not able to run the ball. Those are glorified run plays, and it got them in better circumstances in the game.
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So it was quick answers for Josh.
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Yes.
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And I think, again, I can't believe how banged up he is.
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Yeah, I'm very concerned, scared, fearful, all that.
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They talked about the intangibles and the toughness of this team. And, you know, Jace Gursky of the Buffalo News asked the question, like, you're talking about those things about your defense and this team. It's like, nobody exemplifies that more than Josh Allen. He's like, when you have a warrior and a competitor like that, it goes through the entire team. And I think you saw that. And there were a couple different times. I'm on the sidelines and I'm sitting there like, I can't believe this game's going to slip away because the offense stalled in the third quarter.
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Yeah.
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And the defense, that point. No. Jordan Poyer started to kind of show some cracks, and it seemed like they were kind of not being able to hold the water anymore. And there was. It was so calm on the sidelines. Deion's, like, bouncing around to the music. Josh is just sitting there, calm, cool, collected. I'm sitting there like, this is going to happen again. Like, I can't believe this is happening again. And then you have Josh and those guys, like, the calmness. And Josh was asked, like, what did you say to those guys? Four minutes left, down four. And he's like, you got my back, I got yours. I love you guys.
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I love y'. All. I got you. You got me.
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Can I just add something about when Josh gets hurt to the point that he's got to go in the tent? The circumstances, the way it works, and you see it up close, you guys do. It's like, oh, something happened with Josh. And then he goes to the sidelines, and then that tent's up quick, and he's in there, and everybody's like, okay, Josh is in the tent. And then at the moment, he usually semi sprints out of the tent, and then he goes to a spot on the bench sits there, gets the iPad out, and he sits there, and it's like, you go, oh, he's gonna stay in the football game.
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This is why I got so mad at you in the press box when after his touchdown right here in this end zone, Josh obviously fell on his knee. Weird. It didn't look good. Limped off the field. Mike was like, oh, he's not playing anymore.
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The reason I said that was I thought he got. No. The reason I said that is because I thought it was. It got hit in the head because he had already been checked once for a concussion, and the players were calling the staff over. And I thought he got hit in the head. And my thought was, if he goes a second time in to get his head checked, they're going to keep him out of the game, as bad as it would be. That is what I thought. Not for his leg, I said to you.
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No, But I was just like, okay.
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I said to you, if it's his ankle, he'll play. His foot, he'll play.
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It's going to be. It was like Isaiah Stewart going after LeBron in that fight. Like, if you've seen the meme, you know what I'm talking about, him sprinting through the field. I'm over there by the blue tent. I'm kind of like, oh, I didn't even know because it was the first time he went in was on the third and sixth run, and ended up getting, like, his helmet ripped off.
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Yeah.
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And he came off.
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Yeah. It was weird.
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And I'm sitting there and I'm like, oh, okay. Like, Josh jogged off fine. Like, there wasn't trainers on the field. And all of a sudden I see there's the blue tent is up, and I'm, like, sitting there, and the trainer's like, come on, let's go. Come on, come on. And I'm like, if somebody, like, really hurt. They were trying to get the medical, the red hat guys to get in there to check him out, to clear him, because it obviously got called down.
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Yes.
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So they were, like, annoyed that they're like, let's go. Josh is like, gotta now sit in this tent and wait for you. And then as soon as he got out there, it was like, I'm fine, I'm fine. Like, Shavers is kind of looking at him. He's like, I'm fine. Get out of my way. I'm good. It was very funny. But then again, he went through it again with his foot. Again, he's warrior.
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That's the only way to put it warrior mindset. But you're right, that obviously is impactful. He's definitely going to be sore tomorrow. I'm curious to see what will be on the injury report. Is it going to be.
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Imagine him practicing like at all.
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At all.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Which is walk through.
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Which is fine. Like, which is fine. He's at the point in his career where I'm not worried about Josh Allen.
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Getting reps in practice.
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Yeah, exactly.
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We don't know who they're playing while we're recording this.
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Yes.
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If it's New England, they've seen them this year. If it's Houston, they've seen them.
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How would they play New England?
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Pittsburgh, New England. I keep saying that. Denver. If it's Denver, they haven't seen him. That's the most likely one. But they've seen the other two. So if, if it ends up being Denver, that's going to take a little more practice time, but it's mental stuff for them.
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We're recording this at 6:30. If the Chargers win, the Bills will head to then either the winner of Houston and Pittsburgh. That's Monday night. If the Patriots win, the Bills are heading to Denver.
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Yeah. Okay.
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Let's say on the offensive side of the ball, I thought Khalil Shakir had a good game. We talked about Don Kincaid, had a couple nice catches and spots.
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Yeah.
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Like that's what they need him to be. He's not going to be out there all the time, but in a couple spots. I was like, all right, Kincaid, nice catch.
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Yeah, he did. And the touchdown. There was a big play after they had gotten the first on the. On the tush push.
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And what a throw.
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Great throw. Just a rocket that he threw to him for the touchdown. And Brandon Cooks, Dan, you talked about it going into the week, like he needs to make some plays.
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And then he dropped the one.
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Yeah.
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That looks close.
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That was Josh's fault, right? Ryan Clark.
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Yes.
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That's the last Ryan Clark stray.
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Because you know what they're gonna say on those shows. That's what we need out of Josh Allen, where he dragged his team to the win. They're gonna act like what they said was an idiotic.
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Yeah.
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And then Josh Allen played. By the way, Ryan. That's the way Josh Allen plays in all these games.
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But if you watched, you would know that.
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Yeah. And so. But Brandon Cooks was asked about, like, did you feel like you were making it up? He goes, I flushed that play. Like, that's the way I got to play. He is a vet and I gotta tell you, he, like you said, he has added something to this offense. And that throw and that play on the last drive was fantastic.
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Huge.
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It's all over social media now, but it's a 40 yard throw flat footed by Josh and when he lets it go, Cooks hasn't even gotten out of his break, hasn't even looked for the ball, and he has a free blitzer coming right at him. It's just an unbelievable play. And Josh said that was something they put in this week.
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Wow.
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That was the play that they had put in this week. And again to see it on the field and sometimes you can see in the TV broadcast, but being in the field or being at the stadium, the amount of checks I felt Josh Allen was making late in the games, like they were breaking the huddle early so Josh could get up there. And it was a whole bunch of hand motions and all these things and it really felt like Josh was taking over the game. And again, it was the drive, the. The Tush pushes, the Buffalo shoves, whatever it was. And Cooks making that play was huge. Knox had another nice catch. Yeah, Keon.
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Keon sighting.
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Keon made a play.
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Keon, that was.
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That's what they always said. Like, even when he was inactive and, you know, a healthy scratch and things like that. Sean publicly to the media and said, we're going to need him at some point. You lose Josh Palmer, he goes on IR Yesterday, you have other guys going on. Like it came down to the point where you're like, Keon's going to play because he's a body. And then he was going to get limited snaps and. And made a play in a big moment.
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Adding to that, I saw Gabe. You saw him, he came out on the field at the end of the game, he's on crutches, got a brace on his leg. I would just say it does not look good for him to return in the playoffs. I feel badly for Gabe. He made a few plays for this team. I know he wanted to play well here. But from the team perspective now, you no Palmer and no Gabe going forward, in all likelihood, it really does. And Shavers got banged up in this one.
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Shavers got banged up in this one.
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It really does put even more pressure on the other guys, wide receiver wise.
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Yeah. Anything more on the offense before?
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I just wanted to add, thank the Lord that enough teams in the league did not vote to do what the bill said and ban the Tush push. And I'm not making a Philly thing here to say it because they don't even Run it and don't run it. Well, the Bills do because they have Josh Allen and by the way, Reggie Gilliam. Reggie's got to be the guy behind him all the time on that play because he's great at it. But it is a weapon. Even an injured Josh Allen is so good at moving the pile. And it helps when you got Torrance, like, carrying him there, but it is an effective play for them. And it felt like today it was like, okay, just push it.
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Just.
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And get it and get it done.
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It was lethal for this team.
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It was.
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And the Jags couldn't stop it, especially with Reggie back there. And you see why it's been so good for them. All right, let's go to the other side of the ball. We'll start with the Cole. We'll start with the end.
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What I thought the defense was spectacular. I understand they gave up two long drives in the second half. They were great in the first half. They got the fourth down. Stop. Great challenge by Sean. I thought they were able to do enough in the passing game. At one point, Trevor was 2 for 10 or 2 of 8 on passes over 10 yards. There'll be individual guys that we will highlight. But I thought that defense, for a team that over there, since week eight, had been putting up 33.0 at home. To have that type of performance, to lose Jordan Poyer, to not have some of these guys and to do that outstanding, gutsy effort by this defense wasn't pretty. This defense is not going to be. But you know what they are. They understand their flaws. And I thought they were fantastic.
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I would say Deion Walker with a nice tip of a pass, which was good to see.
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They did a lot of that today.
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Shaq had the interception.
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Yeah.
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Obviously, we're going to talk about Trey White. Yeah. But. And how good he was. And look, Lou's employer was big. Jordan Hancock is a young player. Got thrown into this spot in a playoff game.
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He looked like Cole did in Kansas City last year.
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And they picked on.
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Like, they picked on him.
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They did.
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They, Parker, Washington. Like, there was the play. Like, I can just see it. Like Parker.
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They got some dudes.
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Yeah, they did.
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That's a really good offense. And to just do enough sometimes that's all it takes to force the two turnovers for Trae White, to force them to hold a field goal, to get a fourth down stop. They didn't give up a ton of third downs in the first half. They got driven on twice in the second half, and I understand that, but they still I thought held the water early on in that game to go down, to be going into halftime. Ten, seven, I thought was a huge bonus by the way the defense played.
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I. I think that's very fair. I think sometimes we do expect perfection, but when you do zoom out, it's like, wow. They were really able to kind of weather some of the punches that the Jags were doing, and it wasn't perfect. And there was moments where there was definitely breakdowns and lapses and the Jags being able. Why did the Jags stop running the ball?
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Because it's a young coach in his first time in a playoff experience.
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I was like, dang.
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They were very effective running it. But what the Bills did in the past game was make plays, make plays on the ball. Trevor Lawrence put it in harm's way a bunch of times in the past game. Balls deflected. Trey White closed so fast. Dan, I believe it was right over here. Right here, yeah. Dan got a great shot of it for tv, and he closed quickly on that. And Jenna and I were like, wow, that was like he had two guys. Not old. The Trae White of old. Not old. Tray White. And he made the play. He's so vintage young.
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Trey.
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Yes.
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He was so good. Talked to him after the game, and I said to him, what'd you think when Cole caught the ball there? He said, I told him, ball game. And then I said, get down. Don't go anywhere. And he's like, because it was such.
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A big play, it's almost like Trey was celebrating just knowing that he broke up the pass.
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Yes, I could see that.
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And then, because if you think about it, he's like, celebrating before Cole picks off the pass. But it was almost like I broke up the pass and he's celebrating, and it goes right into Cole's hands. And then the full on, you know, oh, yeah, the shot. I have a shot of James Cook going crazy on the sidelines. Like, again, just that total team effort. Because I'm sure you, like many Bills fans all over the place, were going, 60 seconds.
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So here's the thing about the end of the game, and I thought Sean explained this. Well, I had a friend of mine who knows the NFL text me, goes, man, your team's going to blow it there at the end. They should have taken more time off the clock. Sean explained it, and I think it was very interesting. So you have the ball inside the one. You need a touchdown. And I know it's easy to say, take a knee, don't score, let the clock run. You could do that. But his point was you could go back. You go back a little, because if he takes a knee, it's like the yard and a half that you're going. And then all of a sudden you go, oh, we're going to use some clock here. And then there's a false start, or anything could happen. Now, look, you did give them a lot of time.
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They thankfully had no timeouts, but I.
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Think Josh maybe felt confident that they could have wasted some time because he said, in hindsight, it's great. First of all, props to Sean McDermott, who avoided getting fired, by the way.
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Hats off to him.
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That was great. But the great challenge, that worked.
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Great challenge.
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And then in that case, his decision worked out for his team. They got the touchdown because it's easy to assume the score. They probably let them go in on that fourth down. So you would have had to take a knee. They were going to let them score. I would have liked to seen that clock go.
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Yeah. But I was concerned about how much time was left on the clock. But after the game, Cole Bishop talked about the mindset of the defense and, like, we want to be closers, and we think we can be good in that role. And you saw the Bills defense be good in that role today.
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Yeah, they always say that.
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Yeah.
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No, but they didn't know how much Josh wanted.
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No, that's. That's fair. But I want my defense to have that mindset. Like, I want them to be like, we can close this game out. And they. They have been able to do that. There. There have been games where obviously it doesn't all work out. But even Josh talked about this after the game, like this season, and some of the situations that they've been in, having to rally from behind, having to rally and not win against the Eagles, like, things like that matter for a team. And you saw that experience today, today, and we talked about it before the game so much. But that playoff experience, when the lights are this bright, being able to be calm and collected and then go win the game and then make big plays at the end, you see why that's so important.
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Gotta shout out Matt Prater. Yeah, made them all. Made all his kicks. Easy to say. The guy was banged up and limited. However he handled this week. The guy on the other side missed his kick, by the way. Absurd that he even got to kick the ball. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Zero time left on the clock, so.
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The officials embarrassed themselves. I saw Albert Brier, who covers the NFL, saying, embarrassing for the NFL to have them standing there talking so Long. There is no way that player would have been considered set in any other circumstance than when you're allowed, and this is part of the rules. Why should the defense have to do extraordinary measures to get set? Because the offense is going to run just a little bit faster. In normal cases, the referee spots the ball, they get everybody there and they go. They're sprinting down the field, they give them the kick, and he missed it.
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Ball don't lie.
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Ball don't lie.
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Was that from like 75 yards away? No, I mean, it was at midfield. So what was it, 65?
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No, they were inside of midfield because they got the five yard penalty. Oh, so it was in the. It was in the 50s, I think, for the kick.
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Ball.
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Yeah. Ball didn't lie. And then Prater made all his kicks and I know. Made all his extra points.
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That would say that extra point after they went. He hasn't been there.
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So. So the Bills, actually, if you look at it that way, won the kicking battle. First of all, they won by not losing it, but they won the kicking.
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Battle in a way that was not expected going into the game.
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It's a big mismatch.
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And McDermott talked about having that in the back of your mind with what Cam Little could do for the Jags. So I think that's important.
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All right, I got a hot take.
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Okay.
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Oh, okay. What?
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While you get set and figure something.
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By the way, Greg Russo had a sack.
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Yes.
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He, you know, he was very close. On two more, I would have been in the pool. Gladly would have done it. Dan, I know you were ready to go.
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Was ready to go. I already planned the route, but then.
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Gabe got injured, so that was. Yeah, he probably could have had three touchdowns or two touchdowns in the game.
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Send the virtual measurement to the moon.
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Really?
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That is the dumbest thing the NFL has ever done.
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Oh, I don't. I don't know if I agree with that.
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We sit there and it takes longer than. If the chain takes that long comes out. I mean, you're sitting around and then you look at a board and it just goes first down. I don't know if this is old man take. If you want to sit there and say, hey, by, you know, by measurement, it's a first down, fine. But to have it on a board and wait a minute.
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Yeah, it should be way faster. You watch tennis. The same kind of thing is like in 10 seconds.
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Yeah, it's awful.
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Not even that.
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Yeah, it's awful. So that was very dumb. Great challenge by Sean. I think he had the Extra time because the virtual measurement took 60 minutes. Like, I think that was part of it. But a great challenge there. They had trouble spotting the ball. And again, why isn't it. We talk about refereeing real quick. The play at the end of that half, there is so much virtual assist. The Bills punt was at the one. They go, it's at the three after virtual assist. Why can't they sit there and go, hey, the clock ran out. Virtual assist. There's no time left. Like, why was that so difficult to process?
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They should be able to just embrace the technology that works and use it and make it quicker and make themselves look foolish. All those officials standing on the field.
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C
Before committed for some bad pre. Stat presets.
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B
Dawson Knox had one that was a.
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C
Killer on third and five. That made it third and 10.
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A
Yeah, that was bad. The penalties, definitely.
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C
They overcame it.
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A
Yes, they did.
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B
They did.
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C
This team playoff experience showed was the.
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B
End of the game when they were coming off the field. I mean, that is what you get when you win on the road. And we haven't seen that in the playoffs. I did cover the 1992 playoffs when they won on the road, ended up going to the super bowl, and they just haven't really had that many opportunities in this group. We've seen them celebrate like that. It's regular season game. Big win in Kansas City, big win wherever they play. This was the playoffs and them going off the field and Josh kind of taking it in there a little bit was kind of cool because I think he knew what this meant. As this team advances to the next step in the. In the playoffs.
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A
I was right there.
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C
Didn't hit record.
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A
Didn't hit record on my phone.
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B
That's kind of an old man thing.
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A
That was. I. Well, I double punched it.
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B
That's an old man thing too.
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A
Yeah. No, it sucks. Yeah. Yeah.
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C
I mean, I'll help you with your emails later.
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B
By the way, we all predicted close scores. Yes, I got. I did predict the exact score. 27, 24. Now there you guys were all very close, but it was 27, 24. It was the exact score.
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C
Hey, if I predicted the correct score, I would have mentioned it.
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B
You would have started it.
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A
That would have been dance thing.
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C
That would have been right at the top.
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B
Got it right. Nailed right.
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A
We don't know who the Bills are playing next. Injury is obviously something to be concerned about moving forward, but the Bills won here today in Jacksonville. What do you think moving forward for this team?
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B
I'm most worried about, like Poyer being out and I Hope he can come back. I don't know. That's. That's tough. I think they're going to miss him. They're so shorthanded on wide receiver. Josh is going to just. They're going to tape him up. What did he say? Medicine and adrenaline is what he told Tracy Wolfson. That's what he. What he's going to do. By the way, speaking of the broadcast, a lot of talk, we don't listen to the broadcast. I don't know what Roma was saying, but people were. People did not love Tony in a bad way. They were not happy with Tony. So I have no idea what he said, but, you know, I don't know, Jim. I don't know. It's their eighth straight game. I would assume they'll do next week's.
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C
Game, I would imagine.
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B
Probably.
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A
Yeah. Makes sense. Okay. Anything else, gentlemen?
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C
No.
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A
No one had to jump in the pool.
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B
I know we would have done it.
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A
Okay.
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C
You were so cold. Just tell it. Just admit everybody how cold.
- [23:51]
B
How cold.
- [23:51]
A
I just wasn't prepared with my jacket. I wore a sleeveless for the fit. Just. You don't have to talk about.
- [23:57]
B
You look good. You just are cold.
- [23:59]
A
Oh, my hair is so frizzy right now. Hey, by the way, it all fell apart.
- [24:02]
B
The Duval chant. And what. Tell everybody what. The sign they have in the tunnel.
- [24:07]
A
Voted most intimidating chant in the NFL. In the NFL. Like by who? Jags fans.
- [24:12]
B
And then.
- [24:12]
C
And then they kept saying, it's time to lock down the bank cuz it's Everbank Stadium.
- [24:17]
B
That didn't.
- [24:17]
A
You know what my favorite was? They had the towels on all the. All the. All the chairs. They had this message, wave your towels was like.
- [24:26]
B
It's like, wash your hands. Like, what else are you going to tell me? It was pretty funny. Wave.
- [24:31]
A
I do think there was a lot of, like, I mean, it was crowd. 95% of Jags fans.
- [24:36]
B
There's a lot of Jags fans.
- [24:37]
C
There was a lot of Jags.
- [24:38]
A
They were very passionate. Yeah, I mean, they were excited. And look, I think this Jags team is really good. I mean, 13 wins in one season for Liam Cohen is impressive.
- [24:47]
C
That's the thing. And I don't want people now to discredit how good of a Jags team this is by not giving the Bills their credit.
- [24:55]
B
No, the national guys will do that.
- [24:56]
C
Correct. They'll say, well, you know, this Jags team, you know, couldn't stop Josh Allen on one leg. It's like they were a really good defense. The Bills deserve the credit. But that doesn't mean to give the Bills credit, you have to say the Jacks are. Oh, you know, they were fool's gold. They didn't really deserve to win the AFC South. Like, I. I just think the Jags are a really good team.
- [25:12]
A
I think the Jags are really good, man. Some of those guys can be true. At the same time, the Jags are really good to Ryan Clark and the Bell.
- [25:18]
C
That was the last one. I promised that wasn't going to happen.
- [25:20]
B
Some of those guys are going to twist.
- [25:21]
A
You're addicted.
- [25:22]
B
They're going to twist themselves into a pretzel trying to come up with a way.
- [25:26]
A
I already saw Nick Wright's tweet. It pissed me off.
- [25:28]
C
What was it?
- [25:28]
A
It was the Bills, essentially. I'm. I'm paraphrasing here, but essentially, the Bills finally won a road playoff game. Congratulations to them.
- [25:37]
B
They.
- [25:38]
A
They go to their first Super bowl since 1992.
- [25:41]
B
Yeah, that's his big thing. You know, he calls everything just. Nick, just shut up. Your team's out of it. Your fanboy. Just forget about it.
- [25:49]
C
Shout out to Scott and Joe.
- [25:52]
B
Yes.
- [25:53]
A
Met them at Flask and Canon.
- [25:55]
C
Yes.
- [25:55]
A
A tiki bar.
- [25:56]
C
Tiki bar.
- [25:57]
A
Was not expecting that, but it was really fun. They were awesome. We talked to them about Bill's big fans of the channel. We appreciate them coming up to us. So that was awesome. All right. Good call by that Daniel.
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C
Edward.
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B
Edwin.
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C
Edwin.
- [26:10]
B
Edwin. I had Edwin. We had a couple of guys as I was walking in, and it's wild.
- [26:15]
C
The way that he brings up his apps. He doesn't hold up.
- [26:18]
B
No, hang on.
- [26:19]
C
It's wild.
- [26:20]
B
We are talking.
- [26:21]
A
You can't hear him because he's not holding the mic to his mouth.
- [26:23]
B
We are talking about. We are talking about you guys who you double pumped. Are you double pumped?
- [26:30]
C
That's a note.
- [26:31]
B
Oh, Jesus. That's a guy's name, but he's. We've already talked about it.
- [26:34]
A
We've already talked about him.
- [26:36]
B
Edwin and Jonathan that I saw before the game. Wait a minute.
- [26:40]
A
You.
- [26:41]
B
You couldn't get your pass to work today? When I do it with the credit card, it's like old man with the credit card. And you're doing your pass. Like, did you have a pass moment?
- [26:49]
A
I did. I was trying to scan. Didn't work double. I mean, it wasn't a good day for me, but thankfully, I don't play.
- [26:56]
C
For the Bills Rolls.
- [26:58]
B
Oh, my God. You see what I put up with?
- [27:00]
A
Yeah. All right, that'll do it for us.
- [27:02]
B
Coverage all week. We're heading on the road. Wherever they're going, we're going. We'll be at practice this week and then we'll be heading either Denver, Denver, Houston, Pittsburgh or wherever they're going.
- [27:12]
A
Either way, wherever.
- [27:14]
B
We're out of Duval Duvall.
- [27:19]
A
So bad. Okay. All right. Thanks you so much for joining us here on Buffalo Plus. Please be sure to, like, comment, subscribe and share. For Mike Catalana and Dan Fates, I am Jenna Cottrell. We will catch you next time here on the Buffalo Plus YouTube channel.
- [27:30]
B
Call up my apps.
- [27:40]
C
This is the Buffalo plus podcast.