The BILLS BULLY the Chiefs: Josh Allen SHINED in a BALANCE offense & defense DOMINATED Mahomes

Summary

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Buffalo Plus Podcast Episode Summary

Episode: "The BILLS BULLY the Chiefs: Josh Allen SHINED in a BALANCE offense & defense DOMINATED Mahomes"

Date: November 3, 2025
Hosts: Mike Catalana, Jenna Cottrell, Dan Fetes
Bills 28, Chiefs 21

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Episode Overview

The Buffalo Plus team recaps the Buffalo Bills’ cathartic 28-21 win over the Kansas City Chiefs, dissecting both the on-field dominance and the broader implications for the team mid-season. The roundtable zeroes in on Buffalo’s physical dominance at the line of scrimmage, the resurgence of the defense under Sean McDermott, standout performances by rookies Max Hairston and Cole Bishop, and Josh Allen’s MVP-level control of the offense. The hosts reflect on how this “statement win” positions the Bills in the playoff race and what it portends for the rest of the campaign.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Statement Game and Season Context

• Statement Win: The hosts agree this was Buffalo’s most impressive win of the season, especially considering recent playoff struggles against the Chiefs.
  • “This was about this team right now, especially the defense, which all of a sudden... look like a strength of the team, not a weakness.” – Mike Catalana [00:48]
  • “They bullied the Chiefs. They played bully ball.” – Jenna Cottrell [01:56]
• Playoff Implications: Staying close in the divisional race and finally beating KC when it counts, even if it’s November.
  • “They needed this win for November 2nd of 2025. They needed to stay close with the Patriots.” – Mike [00:52]

2. Defensive Line Dominance & McDermott’s Defense

• Physical Front: The D-line set the tone, consistently pressuring Mahomes and shutting down the Chiefs’ running lanes.
  • “Mahomes was constantly under pressure. The Bills have invested so much in their D line and... tonight you got to see the results.” – Jenna [04:09]
  • “AJ Epenessa planted [Mahomes] into the ground and I’m like, he just broke him in half.” – Dan [05:27]
  • “That defense is his defense now... He’s got them playing with a quote nastiness.” – Mike [03:04]
• Highlight Play: The group collectively celebrated a “WWE pile driver”-type sack by Epenessa on Mahomes.
  • “Should we tell Dan what we were saying in the press box? How some people might think I was borderline erotic? How much of a slam.” – Jenna, joking [05:34]
• Defensive Gameplan Satisfaction: “This was a Sean dream performance from the defense.” – Dan [06:01]

3. Heartbreak: Michael Hoyt’s Achilles Injury

• Impact of the Loss: Hoyt was having a breakout game before suffering a season-ending Achilles injury.
  • “Michael Hoyt had a hell of a game... he has torn his Achilles. He is done for the season... It sucks. He was having such a great [season].” – Jenna [06:29]
  • “The character of that guy, the teammate, like, that's a guy, that's a foxhole guy. That's a guy that you want on the field, in the trenches.” – Dan [07:49]

4. Breakout Performances in the Secondary

• Cole Bishop: Arriving as a Playmaker
  • “Cole Bishop was outstanding tonight. This is the guy that I think Brandon Bean drafted, making plays. He plays freer.” – Mike [09:10]
  • “We have been critical of Cole Bishop on this channel... but the confidence that he is playing with and the plays that he is making, you see the athlete and what Brandon Bean saw.” – Jenna [09:32]
  • “He showed the nastiness… laying some big hits that I think is a big step for a young player.” – Jenna [10:20]
• Max Hairston: First Career Interception – Called by Mike
  • “Talking about his first career interception being... a throw from Patrick Mahomes. He reminds me of a little kid in, like, the best way. Like, it’s very pure.” – Jenna [11:29]
  • “He reminds me of Trey. He lights up a camera, but not in a egotistical way. It’s just pure joy.” – Dan [11:43]
  • Mike correctly predicted the interception: “…I’m going to call a shot here. I think Max is getting a pick next week. Against Mahomes...” – Mike [12:34]

5. Historical Defensive Feats & Passing Defense

• Mahomes Frustrated: Pressure rate and passing stats show the Bills’ defensive dominance.
  • “Patrick Mahomes has played 142 games in the NFL. Today was the first time he completed less than 50% of his passes.” – Dan [15:11]
  • “Mahomes was pressured 52.6% of the time on his drop backs. That is 14% higher than the pressure rate in the previous nine matchups.” – Jenna [15:24]

6. Coaching Masterclass: Joe Brady

• Praise for Simplicity and Scheme: The offensive approach was effective and unfussy.
  • “There were some people that were ready for Joe Brady to be fired and that was a masterclass from Joe Brady. This game felt like chess versus checkers...” – Dan [03:22]
  • “There was nothing cute about the offense in this one.” – Mike [19:29]
• Key in-game adjustments: Success with quick screens, use of Dalton Kincaid, and physical O-line play.
  • “Kincaid was a mismatch today. They ran the ball well. Physical offensive line play.” – Dan [17:59]
  • “They had big guys on the field... Dawson Knox getting in in the passing game... that is where the Bills have the advantage is with their bigger players and still being able to throw the ball.” – Dan [23:14]

7. Josh Allen Returns to Form

• Stat Line and Impact: Only three incompletions, total control.
  • “Josh was awesome. That was Josh Allen. Three incompletions, three total touchdowns.” – Dan [17:57]
  • “Josh said after the game that he felt early on that he was what he calls slotted, meaning he was in the zone.” – Jenna [20:00]
• Signature Moment:
  • “On his second rushing touchdown where he became the... has the most rushing touchdowns for a quarterback in NFL history. He passed Cam Newton.” – Dan [24:17]

8. Remaining Concerns and Needs

• Kicker Situation: Prater missed; Caf Bass on IR, need for more reliability at the position.
  • “Do the Bills have a concern at kicker?” – Jenna [21:37]
• Trade Deadline: Calls for additions, particularly a pass-catcher who can win in crisis moments.
  • “The issue for later is those plays. So the trade deadline is Tuesday. I still would like to see a pass catcher come this way.” – Mike [18:36]
• Injuries & Depth: Acknowledgement that defensive injuries like Hoyt and Ed Oliver cast a shadow on optimism.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the O-line play:
  "The offensive line dominated. They were more physical at both lines of scrimmage."
  – Jenna Cottrell [01:56]

• On targeting Mahomes:
  “AJ Epanessa planted him into the ground and I'm like, he just broke him in half.”
  – Dan Fetes [05:27]

• On Max Hairston’s emergence:
  “He reminds me of Trey. He lights up a camera, but not in a egotistical way. It’s just pure joy.”
  – Dan [11:43]

• On Patrick Mahomes’ historical low:
  “Today was the first time he completed less than 50% of his passes.”
  – Dan [15:11]

• On Joe Brady:
  "That was a masterclass from Joe Brady. This game felt like chess versus checkers and the Bills were the ones playing chess."
  – Dan [03:22]

• On team’s physicality:
  "They were the more physical team. No doubt."
  – Mike [19:48]

• On McDermott’s impact:
  “That defense is his defense now... He’s got them playing with a quote nastiness.”
  – Mike [03:04]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment/Highlight | |-----------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:48 | Game essence & what the win meant for right now | | 01:56 | "Bullying" the Chiefs and physicality at the line | | 03:04 | McDermott’s defense identity and attitude | | 04:09 | D-line’s impact and sustained pressure on Mahomes | | 05:27 | Iconic Epenessa sack on Mahomes | | 06:29 | Michael Hoyt’s Achilles injury and what it means | | 09:10 | Cole Bishop’s breakout game and future potential | | 11:29 | Max Hairston gets his first interception; joy in the postgame | | 12:34 | Mike’s on-air prediction of Hairston’s pick realized | | 15:11 | Mahomes’ historic stat line (sub-50% completion for first time ever) | | 17:47 | How the offense got rolling; Josh Allen’s efficiency, use of screens and TEs | | 18:36 | Trade deadline priorities and roster needs | | 19:35 | Praise for Joe Brady’s “non-cute” game plan | | 20:00 | Josh Allen “slotted” in early - in the zone | | 21:37 | Kicker situation with Bass on IR; Prater’s miss | | 22:33 | Praise for Dalton Kincaid, Shakir, and Elijah Moore contributions | | 24:17 | Josh Allen passes Cam Newton for most rushing TDs by a QB (double spike moment) |

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Overall Tone and Takeaways

The episode was lively, candid, and infused with both relief and confidence: the hosts—openly wrong in their Chiefs predictions—are both thrilled and surprised by the Bills’ resilient, physical performance. There’s an undercurrent of realism (concerns over injuries, the need for mid-season reinforcements), but the main chord is optimism: the Bills “bullied” a respected rival and found successful formulas on both sides of the ball, potentially redefining their ceiling for the rest of the year.

Final Note: Jenna, Mike, and Dan repeatedly emphasize the importance of physicality, balance, and team character in this signature victory—while never losing their trademark blend of insight and Bills-centric humor.

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Transcript

[A]

So we were wrong.

[B]

You mean because we picked the Chiefs to win?

[C]

I don't mind being wrong here because that was awesome. This is the Buffalo Plus Podcast.

[A]

Welcome back to the Buffalo plus podcast. Mike Catalan at Dan Fates, I am Jenna Cottrell. Please be sure to, like, comment, comment, subscribe and share. The Bills getting the win tonight, 2821 over the Chiefs. Buffalo now 6 and 2 on the season. We're going to talk about the defense, the big plays by Max Hairston, Cole Bishop, Josh Allen, Dalton Kincaid. But Mike, first, let's say, and start with where this team is at after a big win tonight.

[B]

Here's what I think this game was about. This game, this was about right now in the season when they do play each other, which they will in the playoffs. They're different teams, different circumstances. And yes, the Bills will have to overcome losing to this team four times in the playoffs. The Bills needed this win for November 2nd of 2025. They needed to stay close with the Patriots. It didn't hurt that they knocked the Chiefs back down. I think this was about this team right now, especially the defense, which all of a sudden look like, with some mistakes, still look like a strength of the team, not a weakness. I thought that's what this game was about right now, here and now.

[C]

It's been a while since we've talked about statements, statement games. That kind of feels like a team when you're ascending to being there. And the Bills have just kind of been that good for the longest time, you know, since 2020. And Josh, this felt like a statement. This felt like nobody really picking the Chiefs, you're welcome. Or nobody picking the Bills in the spot.

[A]

Yeah, we got it right.

[B]

See, we were wrong there, too.

[C]

Exactly. So that felt like one of these moments where it's like, what does the Bills have in this spot? And they. They bullied the Chiefs. They played bully ball. When we were driving up here, Mike kept saying, you know, I think there are a couple of ways that the Bills can win this game. And I was the one being like, I don't. I don't really know. And this was one of those games that you talked about. Josh was really good. The offensive line dominated. They were more physical at both lines of scrimmage, and defensively, they stepped up. And I didn't know if they could do that. They showed me something today.

[B]

Well, Janet, Dan's saying they didn't know they could do that because the truth is they really haven't done that. You can't count the jets game, the Panthers Were bad. Like they were very good in those games. But this was against a quality opponent. They hadn't shown it this year. This, I thought top to bottom, this was their best game. Yeah, I mean especially when you talk about the opponent, the circumstances, all those things. But I do think the physicality was present. And you know whose game this was tonight. This was Sean McDermott's game. He gets this team to play. Go ahead and doubt them, especially in the regular season, is what happened.

[A]

They.

[B]

That defense is his defense now. It is, yes. It's he and Bobby and he gives all credit to Bobby Babich. And I do know they work together on this. He's got them playing with a quote nastiness. He said, you cannot play the game without that. That's the way his defense played tonight.

[C]

It wasn't just Sean. There were some people that were ready for Joe Brady to be fired and that was a masterclass from Joe Brady. I kept thinking about the Jordan meme of I took it personally. Like that was. We had called Joe out and said he's getting too cute. Sean had called him out, called out, had said some words about they need to get better. That was a masterclass from Joe Brady. This game felt like chess versus checkers and the Bills were the ones playing chess. I was, I was very impressed by the way the offense manufactured. I feel like they out coached the Chiefs. They don't have necessarily the Jimmies and the Joes as some of the Bill as some of the Chiefs players, but they were more physical. They were in the right spots. They out schemed them.

[A]

Impressive, impressive on both ends of the ball. I do want to go back to the defense though, because we talk about that, that nastiness and Sean McDermott talked about that attitude where that's where everything starts for this team. And we can talk about just the defense overall, but I want to start with the defensive line because it did feel like Mahomes was constantly under pressure. And we've talked so much about how the Bills have invested so much in their D line and wanting to see the results tonight. You got to see the results.

[B]

Bosa was really good tonight. He made plays. AJ Epanessa lit up Mahomes on the sidelines. Right over there.

[C]

Right here he did.

[B]

Rousseau got good pressure. Javon Solomon made a few plays. I liked what they did. They moved him inside on some pass rushing situations and they chase Mahomes and Dan. The other thing they did was they really kept him from running. He can kill you on those runs. He ran around in A pocket. He converted a 4th and 18. He's still Mahomes. Rasheed Rice is a problem anytime you play this team. But honestly, 21 points they held him to and they beat him up at times. I thought that was impressive.

[C]

I'll say this, like, the little backing up, like Mahomes went up in my book today. He took a beating. That hit that he took on second.

[A]

Down, that was tough.

[C]

He was rolling out, scrambling, doing his little thing. AJ Epanessa planted him into the ground and I'm like, he just broke him in half.

[A]

Like, should we tell Dan what we were saying in the press box? How some people might think I was borderline erotic? How much of a slam.

[B]

AJ Just keep re showing that for Bill's fans.

[C]

It went out like he. Mahomes went to jump and throw it and like AJ Caught him. And like WWE like pile drove him into the ground. And I'm sitting there like, he may be in the turf. Like, he may be a half of his body may be in the turf. And he got up and jogged off. And I was like, whoa. And then I think third and 15, he converted. But I was like, that was a tough play because they were all from. Pat McAfee was even tweeting, they are beating up Mahomes. He is taking beating. We've seen Josh in previous games do that. The Bills defensive line imposed their will in this game. You know, Sean McDermott loves to see that because they were. They were difference. And Sean talked about it. When the pass rush and the coverage can work together. This was a Sean dream performance from the defense.

[A]

Now, something to note. Michael Hoyt had a hell of a game as well. Sean McDermott though, saying post game that he has torn his Achilles. He is done for the season. And Mike, that is. It's just. It sucks. He was having such a great. I mean, he just got back last week to the team to have a phenomenal game against the Panthers tonight. To be showing out and then to have that happen, you know, you.

[B]

You see a guy like that who had to sit out those six weeks, and it's on him. He had said it, it's on me. So he comes in, he wants to impress, and he came in, he's impressed. You know, like in the cartoons when they're going, going, going, then hit the ground and take off. That's the way Hoyt came in. And he, you know, the players around him noticed it. He played really well in Carolina. It's one thing to play well against Andy Dalton. And then he started doing it here made a few plays and then it's non contact. You see him off the jump, and then the next thing you know, he knew it. I saw him in the locker room. A couple guys were coming up to him and he was like, yep, that's what it is. It's really sad to see.

[C]

I had tweeted two plays before that. Michael Hoyce was a beast. He was blowing up everything. For as good as Bosa and Rousseau and Epanessa were to get off the edge, he was blowing everything up. Hoyt was in the inside. Like, he just seemed to have this motor. Not only that, you know, that he went to Brown in the Ivy League school. And, like, players talked about, like, how smart he was. He was like, coaching the defensive line on every snap, like, lining guys up, flagging things. Like, he was that traffic cop that we've talked about. What Trell Bernard is at times like that is what he was. Heartbreaking to see a guy like that get that type of entry. And on top of it, they wanted the cart to come out because it's a torn Achilles. He couldn't walk barely off the field. And he said no to the cart because he wanted to stay on the bench to watch the rest of his game with his teammates. Like, the character of that guy, the teammate, like, that's a guy, that's a foxhole guy. That's a guy that you want on the field, in the trenches. And I got a shot of him because Max Harrison ran that way. And I'm shooting the bench because I figured they're all going to come that way. And he's slapping up the D line and he's all banging on the bench like, brutal, brutal. Like you wish you could turn injuries off.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like in an NFL season. Dion talks about how they're 3,000% injury rate. That one really hurts.

[A]

Yeah, that certainly does. Such a great season for him. That is tough. Now, I do think the defense did a good job in this game of kind of weathering that storm. And I think we should talk about Max Harrison. What?

[B]

Yeah, no, Cole. Let's start with Cole, too.

[A]

Yeah, Well, I, I, I said weathered the storm and oh, yeah, that happened after, like, Max Harrison had the interception after. That's why I went to Max.

[B]

Yes. Oh, no posting.

[A]

But I'm trying. But, but we should talk. Cole Bishop was outstanding tonight.

[B]

This is the guy that I think Brandon Bean drafted, making plays. He plays freer. I, I saw him tonight attacking the ball. He joked, he said he probably could have had a pick, at least on One of them, he had four pass breakups.

[C]

Smart plays, instantaneous plays.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

And I will say, here's another shot.

[B]

They got Mahomes and Kelce tonight.

[A]

We have been critical, critical of Cole Bishop on this channel.

[C]

Rightfully so.

[A]

Rightfully so. But to see where he is at, the confidence that he is playing with and the plays that he is making, you see the athlete and what Brandon Bean saw and potential of what he could be.

[C]

You hope this is the game.

[A]

Yes. That unlocks that.

[C]

That springs board, springboards. Spring, spring sports. You teach. You speak, Dan.

[B]

You teach me. Good.

[C]

I hope this is because, like the, A little bit of the cynic in me is like, well, Keon had that in week one and we're like, here we go. Like, Keon's going to take off. You hope that you can stack games like this. What a big moment this was for him in this type of speed and all the weapons that the Chiefs offense have. Really big moment in this spot to play like that.

[A]

And he showed the nastiness that I think that there's been times where he's been dribbled like a basketball, where you see him and some of the angles that he's taken, he's been kind of flown off the ball. But for him to show that physicality that we talked about, laying some big hits that I think is a big step for a young player.

[B]

What it does for this whole defense. You know, again, we don't know how he's going to play week to week and all, but, you know, I, I don't know. We. We do know this, that Taylor Rapp was not good enough and he was injured and now he's had surgery. So he's done. He's likely done. We haven't said that officially. Having Poyer out there maybe helped a little bit.

[C]

I agree.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

And maybe, you know, because Poyer knows where he's going to be. I love the fact that he. He's out there and Hancock is out there. Get the younger players out there. This defense got infused by the, the veterans who came back and the young guys. And that's what's a shame. So much about Hoyt. But Cole Bishop is the present and the future in that secondary. They need him. And then you mentioned Max already. Get that kid on the field more and more plays. And then he made a play.

[A]

You forget how young he is. But talking to him post game, when you like him, talking about his first career interception being a by. By being a throw from Patrick Mahomes. And just like the Joy that he had. He reminds me of a little kid in, like, the best way. Like, it's very pure.

[C]

He reminds me of Trey.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, Trey. I could see he lights up a camera. Yeah, he loves the camera, but not.

[A]

In like, a egotistical way.

[C]

It's just pure joy. Like, you want to bottle up Max's enthusiasm and all of the things. And that, to me, is what stood out.

[A]

And.

[C]

And you talk about the eroticness of driving Patrick Mahomes on the ground. How about that for Max? Going step for Steph with Xavier Worthy like that. Play that clip over and over again and just think about, this is why you drafted a guy in the second round that is pure speed.

[B]

Speaking of playing a clip, I'd like us to play a clip. I'm going to be Dan here. Hold on a second. Let's go back to last week. Bills beat the Panthers, Jenna and I on the field in Carolina. And this I'm excited about. The rotations on the defense. I think it's going to continue. I think it'll make Trae White a better player if he's got it. And I'm going to call a shot here. I think Max is getting a pick next week. Against Mahomes, I think Max is getting a pick. They didn't really test him that much in this game. It was a couple throws towards him. The good pressure. I'm calling it out. I think Max Harrison, the rookie's getting a pick next week.

[C]

The funny thing is, is that I edit this and I may not put it in. Who knows?

[B]

Nah, I was.

[C]

Gotcha, Jenna.

[A]

I may forget the game's going on and Mike's. Mike. Interception happened. Mike's like, oh. And then he goes, jetta, look what I found. And I'm like, yeah, I look at that.

[C]

Oh, come on.

[B]

It's a good call.

[A]

It was a great call.

[B]

He had played one game.

[A]

It was a great call. You were right. You called it.

[C]

You want to call that he's going to be the starting corner next year.

[B]

Oh, you go ahead with that. The number one pick. I just want to see him on the field more. And I just. I think however they do it, it doesn't mean Trey's got to come off the field all the time. It just means get him out there more and more snapshots, and we'll see how he does.

[C]

And I have a hard time believing he's 100%, still has a small brace on. Like, to think that what this is scratching the surface. Like, still going through some of these rookie like mistakes, things like that is crazy to think what he could be because we haven't seen moments like this from a young corner that was a first round pick. Obviously the Kyer thing didn't work out yet. Like, this was special to see some of these moments.

[B]

He is a kid. I see him in the locker room and he's like, very excited. Game's over and he's going to the podium. So he's like, I heard him. He's like, do I have time to take a shower first? I'm gonna do this. Getting him ready, sort of like jumping across the room and he should be excited. My God, he went through a lot with that knee injury and to work his way back and then to get this on. This is as big a regular season stage as you're gonna get this kind of game against, against Patrick Mahomes in the Chiefs.

[A]

And this was his first time being out in, on the field in Orchard park, being active for the game and you talk about where he's at and you think of the interception tonight and there's going to be bumps and bruises along the way. But for him to learn and to be out here and to see some of those, those high plays that you want to see out of a guy, I think that's, that's exciting to me because, you know, I think the floor can continue to be raised. But having those sealing moments where you're like, that's a, that's a big time play and a big time moment is important.

[C]

Patrick Mahomes has played 142 games in the NFL. Today was the first time he completed less than 50% of his passes.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Really?

[B]

That's. First of all, that's insane.

[C]

Yeah, insane.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And the other stat was Mahomes was pressured 52.6% of the time on his drop backs. That is 14% higher than the pressure rate in the previous nine matchups with.

[A]

The Chiefs for the Bills blueprint game.

[B]

Well, it's also, like we said, credit to McDermott, credit to Babich, credit to all the position coaches. They had this team ready to go on defense. They're still going to give up plays. It's still Rasheed Rice and Xavier Worthy and Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce and all those guys that, you know, and they'll be around. But this did do some damage to the Chiefs too. So, you know, you know, they have a tough schedule and now they have four losses on the season.

[A]

So that was, that's big.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like hand up. Did not think the Bills could do that.

[A]

Okay, we were talking about this, you and me and I was like, are the Chiefs really as good as people think they are? Because they played a beat up Lions team. They beat the Raiders, they, they beat the commanders with Mariota in there. Like to me I was like, ah, maybe, maybe as it got closer to kickoff I was like, you know, the Bills are underdogs. They love that spot. Like it kind of made more sense as we got closer to kickoff.

[B]

I will say this for the Chiefs, I see flashes of what they could be by the end of the year. They also were missing their best offensive lineman at left tackle. Their offensive line got beaten up in this game. When they get it together, whatever that is, obviously they are going to be the most dangerous team because they're the Chiefs and they've done it this many times. But the, but they're at the moment like they got punched in the mouth by the Bills today, which was impressive. They lost early in the season a couple of times. They lost that weird game to Jacksonville. But to your point, I thought they were getting a little too much love early. Even though I thought they could eventually get there. They got punched today and the Bills were the ones doing the punching.

[C]

I said that the Carolina game taught me nothing. I learned nothing about the Bills defense because of Andy Dalton and that learned a lot today about this defense. Now again, the Hoyt loss could be, could be huge. No Ed Oliver, like those, like that's crazy. Like to start thinking some of these losses, you know, the loss of guys, the bad luck that you're having on this defensive line. But I learned some things about this defense today that are encouraging that Sean McDermott is still a great defensive mind and can still game plan and put a hell of a game together.

[A]

What did you learn about the offense?

[C]

That maybe you can build a passing game around quick screens to Khalil Shakir and throws to tight ends. Josh was awesome.

[B]

He was.

[C]

That was Josh Allen. Three incompletions, three total touchdowns. Kincaid was, was a mismatch today. They ran the ball well. Physical offensive line play. We still are looking like here's the, here's the other side. Like the third and 10 bubble screen to Shakir. That goes for one yard. It's like you might as well have ran a draw. Like what that was to me was like we still don't have that. But what Kincaid had, what Cook is able to do consistently. I thought Joe Brady coached a hell of a game in game managing like the play calling I thought was phenomenal.

[B]

We've seen the Bills offense do this before. The issue for later is those plays. So the trade deadline is Tuesday. I still would like to see a pass catcher come this way. I know they need D tackle. I know they need a pass rusher. I know. Well, they're better at corner now.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, it's shown better at safety and better at corner. I would go get somebody on offense and try to help them because when you need that play, it might be that one play or that two plays. That's what would take. Give this, unlock this offense. It's not about the total. You know when he Talked about the 30 points a game last year, that was great. It's about the moments when you need a guy to make the play. And by the way, ja' Mar Chase is really upset in Cincinnati. I saw he was upset today. You throw a few first round picks to them.

[A]

Five first round picks.

[B]

I'm kidding. But there are players out there.

[A]

So was I.

[B]

And see. But to your point, Brady was back. There was nothing cute about the offense in this one.

[C]

Nope.

[A]

The only thing that was cute though was the bubble screen to Shakir on third and nitpicking. I agree. I agree. I. We. You asked me, I gave an answer. But overall today it was a really nice bounce back effort.

[B]

Physical. Physical. We talked to Sibo, I did in the locker room and he was like, he was like, that's the way we got to play. And he said we were that way on both sides of the ball. They were the more physical team. No doubt.

[A]

Yeah. And Josh Allen. It was nice to see Josh looking like the Josh Allen that we've. We've known him to be in Orchard Park. He said after the game that he felt early on that he was what he calls slotted, meaning he was in the zone. But you could tell that he had the confidence and hopefully that can kind of spur something for him because we, we know the player he can be.

[C]

I, I thought they ran the ball effectively on first down, which gave them second imaginable and third imaginable. There were a couple times that I'm sure you at home were kind of screaming, take a shot, Take a shot here. But they stayed with it. They stayed with their plan to be physical. Josh said, like, this is who we are. It's a lot of James Cook and you sprinkle in other things around him and other guys getting open again November 2nd. Awesome.

[B]

Right?

[C]

Where can this go? Where. Where's their ceiling?

[A]

Like.

[C]

Like they've raised their floor when Josh plays like this. Yeah, it's it's. It's a really good floor. Anytime you have Josh Allen out there. But it's. Where does it need to be in those biggest moments, like if there's still a third and 14.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Obvious passing situations is where I think there's the concern of do you have the guy to get it out there for?

[B]

So, you know, it's funny, all the MVP odds were out and Josh was still in like the top three. Two or three. And to be honest with you, I didn't feel like that was really warranted. He moved himself right back in there. This is beaten Kansas City. He was in total control. And he's still Josh Allen. I meant like his numbers weren't really there. The team wasn't looking great at the moment. They're still in second place. He played like the MVP in this one.

[A]

Do the Bills have a concern at kicker? Prater missed today, the long one, The Caf Bass is obviously on ir.

[B]

Yeah. It doesn't sound great for Bass.

[A]

No.

[B]

Yeah, you're hearing that. But I mean, they could be in the market though, too. You see what that guy in Jacksonville do. 68 yard field.

[A]

68 yard field.

[B]

I mean, that's absurd. The ability you have for some guys. I don't think that's Matt Prater, by the way, at the end of the game. I was with McDermott on that. Maybe some of you thought differently. They ran it. They got the clock down at that point, 35 yard line. He said they would have either just gone for it and at that point you could throw the ball. It's fourth down, you would just not want to turn it over. But if you don't make it, you're turning it over and the clock's going to stop anyhow. Thought the field goal was the right call and it hits the up and then you had to guard against the Hail Mary passes at the end. But be nice. You want to see your kicker make that one.

[C]

They threw a pass to James Cook. They had been waiting all season long for a play action, Josh. A ton of play action today. Really good. Dalton Kincaid was wide open. And that's where I give Brady a lot of credit. Like that is just scheming. Guys open. I was very impressed.

[B]

And Elijah Moore, nice catch, took a hit. That was a big catch.

[A]

That was a big catch.

[B]

They had gone. They got Shakir open down the field. And then right after I. Elijah Moore. And then Bean's like, don't call me. I'm not trading for any wide receivers. I got my guys.

[C]

We're getting downfield and they ran the read option on the third down. Josh took it and run perfectly.

[B]

He made the right call.

[C]

It was great. Yeah, I really liked seeing.

[B]

Yeah, that was good.

[C]

Again, that's where it felt like this was Joe Brady dialed up, was pressing all the right buttons. That is where it felt like chess over checkers. Like they had big guys on the field. Dawson Knox getting in in the passing game like that is where the Bills have the advantage is with their bigger players and still being able to throw the ball.

[B]

And you talk coaching wise, that's against Andy Reid and Steve Spagnolo. So two of the best of all time at what they do. And it was good. It was very impressive. And yes, we know next time playoffs, blah blah blah. Yeah, that is all true. They know that. But right now I asked Sean about, he's like, hey, we move ahead. We put it aside. It's Miami next week and we go down there.

[A]

So the bills 6 and 2. They head down to Miami next.

[B]

New England held on.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Drake May was good. Very good. They almost blew it. Atlanta missed an extra point and had a chance. But hey, they held on to one. That's just get a win and go and move on. They've looked good. So yeah, still chasing anything else.

[C]

Daniel, the double spike was cool. I tweeted about it. Josh on his second rushing touchdown where he became the has the most rushing touchdowns for a quarterback in NFL history. He passed Cam Newton. He handed the ball off to Spencer Brown. Perfect spike. Landed right back in Josh's hand. Josh got to do a spike.

[A]

Of course. That's pretty cool. The football gods approved.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Pittsford Pub in Rochester. We will be there Thursday. This will be upbeat. We'll be at the pub. It was a lot of fun this past week and come out, come out, come out and see us. We'll have a lot of fun.

[A]

Shout out. Rj.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Big time commenter. We appreciate him at he and his.

[B]

Son who are both there, they were awesome. He came up. That was good to see them.

[C]

So friends from Alaska were right over there, right over there that they got.

[A]

A win wearing the Buffalo plus hat too.

[B]

Well done, well done.

[C]

And a red, white and blue beard.

[B]

Yeah, I think we got a picture. I think they sent us a picture. So we'll, we'll take a look.

[A]

Yeah, absolutely. All right, cool. Thank you so much for joining us here on Buffalo Plus. Mike's throwing stuff. Please be sure to like comment, subscribe and share. We will catch you next time Here for Mike and Dan, I am. Jenna, thank you for watching Buffalo Plus.

[C]

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