What SHOULD BRANDON BEANE'S plan be when BUILDING the BUFFALO BILLS in 2024?

Summary

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Buffalo Plus Podcast Episode Summary

Episode Title: What SHOULD BRANDON BEANE'S plan be when BUILDING the BUFFALO BILLS in 2024?
Air Date: February 20, 2024
Hosts: Mike Catalana, Jenna Cottrell, Dan Fetes

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Overview

In this spirited discussion, the Buffalo Plus team dives deep into the daunting offseason facing Buffalo Bills General Manager Brandon Beane. The hosts dissect salary cap conundrums, the need for strategic roster decisions, the Bills’ ongoing window for Super Bowl contention, and the critical draft and free agency moves ahead. The conversation is peppered with humor, hot takes, and a candid look at the tough choices and emotional farewells that may await the franchise in 2024.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Pressure on Brandon Beane

• Beane Under the Microscope: The group unanimously agrees that 2024 is a pivotal year for Beane, arguably with more pressure than Head Coach Sean McDermott.
  • Quote (Dan): “I think there is more pressure this offseason on Brandon Bean than Sean McDermott.” [01:15]
  • Mistakes like the Von Miller contract, the Kair Elam draft pick, and the ongoing uncertainty around Stefon Diggs are highlighted as Beane’s responsibilities.
  • The hosts stress the importance of “hitting” on draft picks with Beane holding 10 selections.

Manipulating the Salary Cap

• Cap Management Philosophy: The debate centers on whether the Bills should “kick the can down the road” and aggressively manage their cap, similar to teams like the Rams and Saints.
  • Quote (Mike): “I want Brandon Bean to show he is the best kicker in the franchise and just kick that can down the road.” [01:40]
  • The Saints are brought up as a cautionary tale but contrasted with how the Rams have navigated heavy dead cap and managed to rebuild quickly via the draft.
  • Emphasis on how successful teams mask “cap hell” by drafting and developing inexpensive talent.

Draft Performance & Crucial Picks

• Hit-Or-Miss Drafts: The Bills’ ability to find value, particularly in late rounds (ex: Khalil Shakir, Terrel Bernard), is credited as key to building the roster.
  • However, misses like Kair Elam and struggles at running back (before James Cook) are acknowledged.
  • The hosts argue that role players aren’t enough; the Bills need stars from the draft this year.

Wide Receiver Room: Draft, Free Agency, and Diggs

• The current state is seen as insufficient—Gabe Davis is expected to depart, and Shakir isn’t regarded as a top-tier complement.
  • Quote (Dan): “You need to find a wide receiver that can massively impact games. You need a game-changing talent in this draft class.” [34:49]
  • Mike and Jenna agree that trading or releasing Diggs isn’t viable due to his contract and dead cap; he's viewed as still top-10 to top-15 league-wide.
  • Discussion of potential targets: preference is for drafting young, impactful receivers rather than spending big in free agency (e.g., Mike Evans, Brandon Aiyuk), though names are playfully suggested.

Handling Emotional Roster Decisions: Tre’Davious White, Hyde, Poyer

• Trey White’s Future Uncertain:
  • The likelihood of White’s release is debated given his injury history, cap implications, and diminished on-field presence the last two seasons.
  • There’s recognition of his importance to the locker room and the emotional ripple moves like this can cause.
  • Quote (Mike): “I think he’s going to be gone. ... It is cold, hard facts of this league. And look, they’ve learned how to play without Trey White.” [16:29]
  • The possibility of White retiring is also brought up, with general agreement that he may be ready for life after football.
• Safety Room in Transition:
  • Micah Hyde’s future is in his own hands; the Bills will likely proceed as if he won’t return, but would welcome him back if he decided to play.
  • Jordan Poyer’s play is critiqued—he may not be retained unless on a team-friendly deal.

Defensive Roster & Youth Movement

• The need for youth is emphasized across the board—especially on the defensive line and in the secondary.
  • Leonard Floyd and other older role players likely to be priced out or not a priority for re-signing.
  • AJ Epenesa is named as a rotational lineman the team should attempt to re-sign.
  • DaQuan Jones is a possible exception in the search for defensive tackles due to positional value despite age.

Remaining Cap & Roster Restructures

• Josh Allen, Matt Milano, Ed Oliver, and Dawson Knox are mentioned as prime candidates for restructuring to find cap room.
  • Quote (Mike): “It’s crazy how that works—there goes $27 million.” [31:41]
• Stefon Diggs’ new contract means he’s staying—the cap hit is too much to absorb otherwise.
• Center Mitch Morse could be asked to take a pay cut or have void years added to restructure his cap hit.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “The secret sauce to make this all work: you need to draft well.” (Dan) [05:45]
• “With 10 picks, there is ammo there—there are packed deals. I don’t expect them to use all of those.” (Jenna) [09:52]
• “If he’s not going to be a starter, he’s not going to be in Buffalo.” (Mike, on Tre’Davious White) [23:07]
• “You need a game-changing talent in this draft class…It has to be somebody that can take some of the pressure off of Stefon Diggs.” (Dan) [34:49]
• “Sometimes you gotta make those decisions…it’s sad, it’s hard, but sometimes you have to.” (Mike, on emotional roster cuts) [23:23]
• “Draft, develop, re-sign—that’s what they want with A.J. Epenesa.” (Jenna) [42:37]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Pressure on Bean: [01:15], [08:00]
• Kicking the Can/Salary Cap Myths: [01:40], [03:21]
• Draft Mistakes & Hits: [05:06], [06:19], [07:00]
• 2024 Draft Importance & WR Need: [09:00], [34:21], [34:49]
• Trey White’s Uncertain Future: [15:56], [16:29], [17:58], [19:03], [29:09]
• Micah Hyde/Poyer Talk & Safety Room: [18:04], [39:02], [39:52], [40:27]
• Defensive Line & Youth Movement: [37:44], [41:08], [41:47], [42:03], [42:43]
• Cap Restructurings: [31:41], [32:08]
• Stefon Diggs/Draft WRs: [32:28], [33:29], [33:44]

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Tone & Style

The hosts blend sharp insight with playful banter and candid, sometimes emotional opinions. Dan often delivers “hot takes,” Mike offers historical perspective, and Jenna is credited as the emotional conscience, especially regarding beloved players approaching the end of their Bills careers. The group’s friendly sparring and willingness to call out each other's takes make the episode lively and accessible for both die-hard and casual fans.

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Summary Takeaways

• Brandon Beane’s decisions in 2024—especially in the draft, salary cap moves, and handling of aging stars—will set the course for Buffalo’s Super Bowl aspirations.
• Youth and cost control are paramount; the roster needs difference-makers, not just solid role players.
• Emotional farewells to long-tenured Bills (like Tre’Davious White and Micah Hyde) are inevitable—and how Beane handles them will matter in the locker room.
• The “kick the can” salary cap playbook is here to stay, but it only works if the Bills draft well and avoid personnel mistakes.
• Despite calls for a shakeup at the skill positions, logic and financials dictate Diggs remains a focal point.
• The Bills must make hard, sometimes heartless, decisions to keep the Super Bowl window pried open in a rapidly changing AFC.

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Transcript

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You could have bought a Hyundai on Amazon. Visit HyundaiUSA.com or call 562-314-4603 for more details. Limited availability pickup through participating Hyundai dealer in select markets. I think there is more pressure this offseason on Brandon bean than Sean McDermott. And I'm also going to say that I know that full well Sean McDermott will get fired before Brandon Bean. But I think there is a ton of pressure on Brandon Bean this year to get it right. This is the Buffalo plus podcast, brought to you by Connors and Ferris.

[B]

All right, welcome back to the Buffalo plus podcast, presented by Connors and Ferris, Mike Catalana, Dan Fates. I am Jenna Cottrell. Please be sure to, like, comment and subscribe to the podcast as we get that much closer to. To 30,000 subscribers. We're. We're almost there.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

So, all right, let's talk about it. We're going to do our best Brandon Bean for a day talking about the salary cap, where the Bills are at. So again, why not? I'm going to hit it again, like, comment and subscribe closer to 30. We do really appreciate it. I. I know some people like. It's annoying you say it. It really does help out our channel. So that's why.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

That's why we say it. All right.

[C]

Believe me, we have things that annoy people way more than that.

[B]

I was gonna say Dan on the pod. That.

[A]

That should be enough.

[B]

All right, Mike, let's start with you.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Brandon Bean for a day. What stands out to you the most as we kind of look at this?

[C]

Well, one, I want to be more than for a day. Okay. I want. I need some more time to map this out.

[B]

And two, that's fair.

[C]

I want Brandon Bean to show he is the best kicker in the franchise and just kick that can down the road.

[B]

I was like, I'm.

[C]

That is what I want. You're in it. You got Josh Allen.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Salary cap. Manipulate it, work around it. It's not. It's not simple. No, it is simple. It's not easy. You got. There's things you need to do.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

It's a little more work. Right. It's a little studying. He can handle it. Kick the can down the road. Doesn't mean you got to spend like a drunken sailor, as they used to say. But it does mean you can do things. You can do things. This team can make cap space out of thin air.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And Then put a, put a roster out there that is worthy of Josh Allen and go try to win it.

[A]

Yeah. Two things like, really annoy me.

[C]

Only two? Yeah.

[A]

And I'm sure people are like, yeah, there's a lot of things that annoy them about me or things like that One is this, this thought of also, like if you kick the can down the road, like everybody always talks about and like it's part of our joke, right? It's part of the bit of like, hey, the salary cap isn't real and all these things and everybody automatically goes to the Saints. Everybody instantly goes, what are you talking about, Dan? Like eventually the Saints, like you gotta eventually pay up for it. The Saints stunk, their quarterback got old and that's when they had to make decisions and players weren't playing well. That's when all of a sudden you have to pay up because you don't want to kick it down the road anymore. My question is, is that why nobody also compares them to. Or when we talk salary cap, the Rams seem to be doing just fine.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Remember, less need. Who needs picks? Like all these things. I looked it up. The Rams heading into this year had $75 million in dead cap. So that was a third of their team salary was assigned to players.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

That weren't on the playing for the team.

[B]

Unbelievable.

[A]

And then another nearly third of their salary cap was tied up in three players. Stafford cup and Aaron Donald.

[C]

And their quarterback is what, eight years older than Josh Allen.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So. So you're in it. You're in the middle of it with Josh Allen.

[A]

So I guess that annoys me when people automatically think, okay, well the salary cap, like you eventually turn into the Saints.

[C]

No, the Saints have made a lot of mistakes.

[B]

I was to say, I think the Saints are a cautionary tale for if you don't properly execute things down the line. But that doesn't mean. Just because it happened to them doesn't mean it's going to happen to the Bills.

[A]

Well, and that's it. Like, obviously they went all in in 2021. And I remember at the combine last year, like would the. Hey, Bean, would you make a move to. For all the. To go all in? That was like the big thing. And then obviously in 2022, the Rams struggled. Everybody was injured that year. And so it's like, yeah, boy, everybody's injured. You go 5 and 12 and you don't have any of these picks. Like, part of that is just. We've talked about it before, like it's just unlucky. Like the players got hurt, Stafford was hurt the whole season. Obviously, when you don't. When your star quarterback that is pretty much based around your team, Cooper cup was injured, like they're just not going to be good. That had nothing to do with the salary cap or the fact that they didn't have draft picks.

[C]

They traded those picks to get those players. Yeah, the Bills have drafted or made deals to get most of their core players now. So it's a very different circumstance. Not like they've been throwing number one picks away. Well, they did draft Elam, but they've not been throwing them away to other teams. So. Yeah, I'm with you. Kick the can, Kick the can and.

[A]

Sorry, go ahead, Jenna.

[B]

No, no, go ahead. You're on one right now. I want you to keep, keep doing it.

[A]

This was part of it. And so I go the way that you can manipulate things and, and the salary cap, we talk about it, you know, snap your fingers off so there's more money made. You need to draft. You need to draft. Well, yeah, that is what the Rams have done. They hit on Puka Nakua, they hit on Kyren Williams. Fifth round picks that are all of a sudden probably the 2, 2 out of the 5 best offensive young players in the game. Like, all of a sudden the Rams are no longer rebuilding. They have pieces and all of a sudden their seller cap's fine because you hit on picks.

[B]

That is a secret sauce to make this all work. And that's the thing that will come under scrutiny for Brandon Bean. Look, I think Bean has done a pretty good job in terms of the draft. But there's obviously you mentioned Kyer Elam. There has been big situations where the Bills have, have not done a good job in terms of whatever it was that made them pick that player. But I think about that and you're right, Dan, that brings up a really good point of how you can continue and be kind of the poster child for, hey, this team, they do a great job getting underneath the cap. They, they make savvy deals, but it's also because of who you're drafting, the role that they're fulfilling and how important that is.

[C]

Look at the Bills roster. I mean, you drafted Khalil Shakir in what, fifth round?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I believe you drafted, oh, Terrell Bernard in the third round. That's how you fill your roster.

[A]

Exactly.

[C]

When those guys are good, when you're sitting here looking, going, those are two. Well, Bernard, I think maybe the most important player on the defense.

[A]

Agreed.

[C]

He's right there with Ed Oliver. Because until they get him some help and then you look on the offensive side. I mean, it's obviously Josh Allen, but Shakir has become a prominent player, at least in terms of their plans going forward. And you got him in the fifth round.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So when you make those picks, all of a sudden your roster looks a lot better.

[B]

Even James Cook, too.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Yeah. And. But again, there were swings and misses at running backs that led up before that.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

So, like, you can't just forget about, you know, Zach Moss. Zach Moss and Devin Singletary was fine and other people like that. But that. That leads me to this hot take.

[C]

Oh, here we go. He's not.

[B]

First of all, I'm. I. Right. Before you do this, I need to make an addendum. We cannot let you have a Celsius before you come to the podcast.

[C]

I just opened it, but maybe it just. Just. It's sort of, oh, my God, Osmosis. And it just.

[A]

Well, and this is. Again, this is one of those things of, like, we talk about, like, windows closing and all those things. Like, here's one for you.

[B]

And this is I, I, Nobody, the straw man Dan loves.

[C]

Go ahead.

[A]

I was thinking about this, and we talked about, like, hey, like, being Brandon Bean for an offseason. Like, what would you do and what would you tell him? And what do we think Bean should do here? I think there is more pressure this offseason on Brandon bean than Sean McDermott. And I'm also going to say that I know that full well Sean McDermott will get fired before Brandon Bean. But I think there is a ton of pressure on Brandon Bean this year to get it right, because you have a lot of the pieces. And Sean McDermott has shown that even with injuries, he can still put out a quality product on the field, defensively, offensively, like, they can make things work. But now with the salary cap becoming what it is and some of those contracts that you have made, you. Now, Brandon, like, the Von Miller thing's kind of on you like we've talked about. Yeah. Like the Kyrie Lima one. It's kind of on you, like, where is Diggs? And all these things Bean's got to make, right. He's got to write some of his wrongs that he's made, and he's got 10 draft picks this year, so, like, he's got to hit on these ones, like we've said, and we can't. We can't get there and go looking for another Gabe Davis. Like, Khalil Shakir is great. He's great. Like, look, we like what he is. You still need another.

[C]

Oh, no.

[A]

Top of the line guy. So.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So, like, while it's. It's great that you, you got some of these role players that fit in and all this stuff, you need to hit on some stars. And that's why I think there's more pressure on Bean this year. This offseason, it was always like, hey, there's no more pressure on Trauma Derm. He's got to erase 13 seconds. He's got to do all these things. Get over the hump. Yes. Yeah, I get that. But it's Bean's job this off season to fix some things that he's messed up.

[B]

Well, this is. Right now we're in Bean season, though, because. Because we have the combine coming up later on. You guys are going to it. We have after that free agency, then the draft. Of course, that comes after that. So this is peak Brandon Bean season. But I, I see what you're saying, because the Bills this season did show that Shawn McDermott and the team, like you talked about, there were injuries, there were struggles throughout. They still got to the divisional round. How can they get past that? That's still another piece. But, but at the same moment for Brandon Bean, like, yeah, Von Miller's contract, he's gonna be 35, that, that looks tough. And you really don't have a lot of wiggle room in terms of getting out of that. How do you add to the offense? You saw what we saw in the playoffs of. Sometimes it just takes scoring more points or having more weapons or having a different option. So this will be really interesting to see what direction. Direction Brandon Beam will go, especially knowing that you have 10 picks. So there is ammo there, there is pack deals. I don't expect them to use all of those. But then two, the salary cap and what that situation means, I mean, it.

[A]

Helps when you have players on rookie deals.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's part of why I think Chicago will draft Caleb Williams or a quarterback because it's a lot cheaper than having to pay a franchise quarterback. And like, in that sense, you kick the can down the road of having to pay a franchise guy.

[C]

Yeah, well, you're in that spot if you're talking about a team like the Bears. Keep this in mind with number one draft picks. Right. Cause you got the fifth year option and all those things that come up, teams can get out of it after four years if they just decide to not do that. But in the Bill's case, you know, like, they, they have had some later round picks that have done well Christian Benford is a good example. Now you're stuck with the Elam thing I was going to say this as my hot take and I've already taken a shot at him when we got started but I'm going to make this my hot take. I still think Kair Elam has a role on this team and I think it changed dramatically when John Butler left the franchise. He's not a fan of Kyrie Elam that's interesting and I think they know he is a talented player he has ability I think we can all agree the guy can play in the NFL. Maybe he's in the wrong system maybe he didn't have his confidence whatever it is but they didn't trade him when they could have semi given him away got rid of the contract he it's a big I had it written down here is cap hit is 8 million dead cap if they were to move on from him I think different sets of eyes on him this year. I don't think they've given up on him yet.

[B]

That's interesting. He reminds me so much of Tremaine Edmonds in the terms of a guy that you thought had all the measurables I mean look Tremaine Edmonds was a physical specimen but Kyrie a taller guy obviously offsetting Trey White was pretty good.

[A]

At football is pretty good at football.

[B]

I'm saying to you I, I'm. But what I'm saying is that you drafted this guy in the first round you Tremaine Edmonds is a better football player than Kair Elam. I also think too the Bills fell in love with some of those immeasurables and, and the projection that is involved with every player that you draft. Yeah but you thought the ceiling would be higher probably for Tremaine Edmonds and I think you thought absolutely the ceiling.

[C]

Would be higher for John Butler's a really good football coach from what we've been told. Not a big fan of Kair Elam the player nothing about the guy I don't know not a fan and he's the guy that controlled a lot of that in terms of what they did I'm just saying to you is this team's going to need to find guys in different ways having a guy on your roster who was a number one pick and you're going to need guys to step up and play in different roles especially when we can get to some of the other things they may do. I, I just have a feeling he's still gonna have A role.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It's interesting. I. I like that.

[B]

All right. Talking about corner, though.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

Well, I was gonna say when like finishing off on like the big picture and also like you talk about finding players or finding new roles and kind of that role, like that's what the, the Rams have done kind of well is like you have to get creative. Like, that's what we, that's what we really talk about with the salary cap was that like it's. Oh, it's all fun and games and things like that. Like, oh, saying it's not real. Things that you just have to get creative. And you also have to get creative with finding players because that goes again to Deontay Hardy and Trent Sherfield and these guys that, that being brought in that just didn't have an impact. So you have to find guys like the Rams. They. They had second round picks this past season. They drafted Brian Young and Kobe Turner. Yeah, they were rookies. Nine sacks and eight sacks.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like.

[B]

Well, even the Chiefs, like with the secondary and Trent McDuffie and players like that that were younger guys who made an immediate impact.

[C]

Yeah. You could have certainly made an argument for him as defensive rookie of the year. He was a finalist.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And I mean they, they really got good play. And Nichua Nua. Nakua. Puka.

[A]

Puka. Nakua.

[B]

Nakua.

[C]

Incredible. He was their best receiver.

[A]

Yeah, he's better than Cup. Like they had Kyron Williams and, and, and Puka that were like, they're in great hands now. Like, like moving forward offensively with a, with a guy, Sean McVay. Great play caller.

[C]

Great play caller. And, and a better game coach than the guy we saw in the Super Bowl. Yeah.

[B]

You talk about the, the Rams and what they've been able to do. I also think. And how much pressure is on Brandon Bean this season. I think it is important to also talk about how you talked about Trent Sherfield and guys like Deontay Hardy, how ineffective they were and they weren't expected to have a huge role on this offense, obviously, but even underperforming in the role that was expected.

[C]

What are you talking about? They won the division for them.

[A]

Salty.

[B]

That one game.

[C]

It's a big game.

[B]

It was, it was a big game. It was a big game. That trencher, field catch. I feel like I could beat that mostly because it took very little skill and a lot of look, long legs and arms. I got wingspan. I saw. I was. I went to the gym. Somebody goes, thought you were taller on tv. I was like, well, that's a lie. All right. We were talking about corner before.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Trey White. And that thought experiment is interesting because I feel like you see a lot of people out there saying there's no way White is back and coming off, you know, another season ending injury with the Achilles. There is so much discussion. Mike, he was the guy that was first drafted, John McDermott's first draft pick. He means so much to this team. How much do you think, kind of the locker room though, as well, is paying attention to what the Bills will do with him because he's battled injury. He's. He's been a guy that's been a part of the process. What do you think that aspect is?

[C]

I think that's tough. But there's a reality in this league and the players all know it. It's two years in a row. It just is. And it's cold, hard facts of this league. And look, they've learned how to play without Trey White. They just have.

[B]

That's true.

[C]

And I think he's going to be gone. I think he's going to be gone. I think he's got to pass his physical first before they can do anything.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And we'll see how he comes back. I know the guy works hard. Yeah, we know it.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Everybody in the organization has said it and he came back. But this is now back to back years with serious injuries.

[B]

And I think it's important to note that when he did come back, it. And it's expected because ACL tear is not an oil change. But it took him a while to be the Trey White that we expected.

[C]

I think it was good.

[B]

I think. Yeah. But again, I felt like, you know, it. It was a full year before he came back. He once again came back on Thanksgiving a year later. Like, I think it took him a little bit. He had the off season and then this year it really did feel like things were coming into place until that Miami game.

[C]

I think he was coming into place as a really good football player, but not Trey White. I just think that there's tough decisions to make and this is one that's organizationally going to be a hard one. Yeah. And I think he's going to be gone.

[B]

I mean, there are a lot of emotional decisions for this franchise.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Micah Hyde, Trey White.

[C]

Well, the Micah Hyde one is.

[A]

Yeah, he's on the ground.

[C]

I shouldn't say it's on. It's. It's on him.

[A]

Correct.

[C]

But the Bills then would have to turn around and sign him.

[A]

Correct.

[C]

Jordan Poyer still has a year left. On his deal. I think they're giving Micah Hyde, obviously, a lot of space.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

If he were to come back, if they decided. Made that. I don't think it's a huge money thing.

[A]

Nope.

[B]

I think it's. Oh, yeah.

[C]

But at least that starts from the player side. I think you're. The point you're making about Trey is very different because it starts from the organization.

[B]

Yeah. They. They would be the ones.

[C]

You guys haven't experienced this very often. Covering the team. I covered the team one day when they cut on the same day. Bruce Smith, Thurman Thomas, Andre Reed.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

But that's a full turning of the turning of the page.

[C]

Right. But it still was still Thurman Thomas.

[A]

I get it.

[C]

Smith, Andre Reed gone.

[A]

Thurman wasn't very good at the end. Correct.

[C]

They were all. Well, Bruce still put up pretty good numbers. Andre moved around a little bit. Thurman went to Miami. Miami. Yeah.

[A]

It's always a good one.

[C]

I think of him as. As Buffalo Bill as anybody. And you forget, really. But so I. I'm saying is. It's hard when you see this. The players you feel like are so tied to your franchise, and then they're gone. Hey, look, I could be. I mean, I certainly could be wrong. I mean, they see Trey. They know how he is physically.

[B]

We did see him in the locker room on locker cleanout.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That was the first time since Miami, I think that Miami game in October.

[A]

Yeah. I think he's changed a lot in a perspective way.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I think that's what we saw a lot about after the ACL injury and then obviously with the Achilles injury. Trey used to be a very bubbly.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Charismatic, vivacious.

[A]

Yeah. Like, he. He was the one that would drop in the back of. Of scrums in the locker room, like he would. Then all of a sudden, he'd be running around in, like, hockey pads and things like that. Like, we've definitely seen a more reserved side of Trey as he's become a father. And he's done that because he's led us into those moments at training camp, and things like that has been. Has been really cool. I'm gonna kind of pull a card out of Jenna's book. When I remember, like, Jenna, it was two years ago, and it was Jerry Hughes.

[B]

I know.

[A]

And you were like, oh, just let. Just let Jerry Hughes stay.

[B]

Hughes to come back.

[A]

And we were like, hey, by the way, like, Jerry Hughes, like, I know. Ain't it anymore. And it was like, you had to make that tough decision. I'M I'm on genocide here. I don't think you treat Trey White like just another player that got cut. I, I think what he means to this locker room, what he means to this coaching staff, what he means to the, the organization, I think deserves more leeway because of it. And to Jenna's point, like, when you say those things, like when you. If you were to. To say straight up, like, hey, man, like, we're done, like, the injuries suck like that. That's part of football. But we're really unfortunate, but we got to move on. That sends big waves through a locker room for a team that is still very close. This isn't like when, like, when did they cut Bruce and Thurman and all them 90s.

[C]

Oh, God, it's got to be 99. Yeah, it's like 98. 99. I tried to. The years they.

[A]

But like, they were right. Like they weren't competing in like, stealing. Feeling close.

[C]

Yeah. They had been in the playoffs. I'm saying to you is in that room to a lot of the players on this roster that has turned over a lot. And especially this off season where it may also turn over with Poyer and Hyde. It's a different locker room now. And a lot of young guys have sped limited time on the field with Trey White. They just have. And this is the world that we live in in the NFL.

[B]

No, I mean, this is why I asked. It's an emotional.

[C]

Oh, I don't just. And look, I, I think they would do it in a way with conversations. Hey, I, I'm. I'm trying to win a championship here as the gm. I'm not kidding.

[A]

Watch our backs.

[B]

You know what I would do if I were Brandon B. For a day? Go golfing.

[C]

Well, you'd become a lot better golfer.

[B]

I know he's a scratch golfer.

[C]

If there's certain tough decisions. Now, listen, I'm trying to get in the head of Brandon Bean as he builds this team. He may still believe that. God, it's my one shot here. Dan's messing with the camera. He may believe in his mind. They may believe that he's still a number one guy or at least a starter.

[B]

Well.

[C]

And they believe that he's got another. Maybe they believe that. I don't know.

[B]

I, I think it is important to know Rasul Douglas and they really like Christian Benford.

[C]

And part of the Raul Douglas deal was the fact that he's still under contract.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So I'm just telling you, if he's not going to be a Starter. He's not going to be in Buffalo.

[A]

Agreed. Agreed.

[B]

That would be. Would be sad.

[A]

Like, I was the one that was like, hey, like. Like tough decisions.

[C]

Like, I would agree with you.

[A]

It's different.

[C]

It's sad. It's hard. It's. Could have some ripples in the locker room. Sometimes you got to make those decisions.

[B]

Is it a ripple that needs to be sent?

[C]

I.

[A]

That's where. I don't know.

[C]

Okay. But we don't know 100% what they believe I just said. You, I think.

[A]

Kept it obvious.

[C]

No, but there are some breadcrumbs. You make that trade for Rasool Douglas with years left on his deal, it would have been cheaper to go after a corner who's a free agent at the end of the year and then you let him walk.

[A]

Says more about what they think about Kyrie Elam.

[C]

No. Because they still have Christian Benford and.

[A]

You only play one corner.

[C]

No. You got Trey White on the other side. Hear me out. They're saving a spot for Trey. I don't know if they are.

[B]

I think it says more about Kyrie Elam.

[A]

I agree. I think. I think if they can move on from Kyr. I think. I think you.

[C]

You might be right. I'm saying to you.

[B]

Damn. We're agreeing a lot. This is.

[C]

That's trouble for you. I'm saying to you that you got your. Let's just see how it plays out.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Then I can walk around and. No, I can't. I would.

[B]

See, I was saying. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

See, Dan's got.

[B]

I was gonna say Dan's got you there.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You're so good. And this is. This would be. It would.

[B]

And then I get to pat myself on the back if he stays, which I would gladly do.

[A]

I just remember it was one of the. It was. I can't remember who came up with. Was getting paid. Maybe it was before Vaughn. Because it's one of those things I remember telling you. Like, we. You have to extend Trey. You have to extend Trey. You have to get it done sooner rather than later. Because it sends. Like, you've always talked about it. Like, when there are context different. I. I'm talking about the message that it sends 100. When all of a sudden, when a player who's been there for a long time wants an extension, is played well enough to earn an extension, and the team kind of plays hardball with him, but then finds $120 million somewhere else. It's like, I remember, like, if I was poor after they signed Vaughn, like, hey, man, where was my money? Hey, like, all of a sudden, that sends shock waves through a locker room. Sends ripples. That's what I said. I go, eventually you have to look around and guys that are getting paid and guys that are not getting paid, and you're looking around going, how come he's getting paid and he. He's not. I understand. It's the business.

[C]

Don't give me. These are rarely surprised.

[B]

I don't think that's true.

[C]

They are rarely surprised.

[B]

I think that would actually be an interesting question to ask.

[A]

You would never, never get an answer. Yeah.

[B]

Like, you don't talk.

[C]

First of all, they paid Trey.

[B]

No, but I'm saying yes. It would have to be a candid conversation. Obviously.

[C]

This team has played 40 games over the last two years, right? Roughly two seasons. Yeah, about somewhere around 40 games. Trey White's been on the field for probably 12 of them.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

This franchise has gotten used to playing without him. That's all I'm telling you. The game moves on.

[A]

Do you think that they would rather have him on the field?

[C]

There's a lot of things that play into that.

[A]

I agree.

[C]

There's the money, there's the idea. Because everybody talks about playing with dead cap space. This year, they played with three players with dead cap space. Matt Milano, Trey White, and Von Miller. And Von Miller was on the field.

[A]

I agree.

[C]

But it was dead space for this year.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

So they. They got used to it. They've gotten used to it. There's a point where. And. And maybe they do. Maybe Bean would feel like it's not worth the dead money to move on.

[A]

Yeah, we'll see.

[C]

We'll see, we'll see. They also may be saying something about it. Let's see what happens in free agency, because sometimes you're signing not necessarily stars, but you're signing young guys.

[A]

When do they have to make that move, Andrew, like, that decision?

[C]

Oh, I don't know. I don't know what he's got in terms of any bonuses.

[A]

Yeah, that's.

[C]

I just want to be.

[A]

Because, again, I would think.

[C]

But he's still.

[A]

Jenna, we're not in the building because we don't really know what they think. I don't know if you.

[B]

I didn't know that.

[A]

You know, But I go, I think they're. Mike's gonna kill me. No, Mike is going to kill me.

[B]

I mean, Dan is phenomenal at building arguments, though. Like, you didn't say that, but.

[A]

Yeah, No, I guess I'm saying is.

[C]

They'Ve shown what they think. I Think. I think they've shown they've built around it.

[B]

Even in Brandon Beans press conference, he obviously left the door open, saying, like, remember at the end of the season.

[C]

Yeah. What did he say about Drake?

[B]

He essentially said, it's not a direct quote, but, you know, we'll see how the process plays out.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Which I mean, is. Is fair.

[A]

It's funny, because I think you want to know what. Where Trey's head is, no doubt.

[B]

Before you make.

[A]

Before you make the decision. Because I think you go into free agency and you go into the draft obviously differently. I think. I think the Bills will proceed as if Micah Hyde is not coming back.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

I think it's fine.

[A]

And then if he pops up at training camp and says, I want to play again, I think they welcome him back for one more year.

[C]

It could very well be.

[A]

But I think you need to know sooner rather than later with Trey. That's why I didn't know if there was a. If there was a deadline or anything.

[C]

Because there might be.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. Like, hey, you got to make this decision by this time because there's a.

[C]

Roster bonus and it's first day of the.

[A]

So that was that. I guess that's my thought, is that I go. I think they can proceed.

[C]

Oh, they're gonna have to.

[A]

With Micah of. We'll play it whenever Micah's ready. We'll wait for Micah because I don't think that that ruffles any feathers. Again, you want to keep. You try. And you're going to need a third safety anyway. You know, if. If he's the two or three.

[C]

I'm going to throw one more thing out here. We're not 100% sure because we're not building so good. Are you sure Trey wants to keep playing?

[B]

So I. I don't know.

[C]

I would have different guy.

[B]

I would have automatically assumed before that he would. But I think that the ACL injury gave him a lot of perspective, like what we talked about. I think we saw a very different Trey White. A more poignant train. Trey White, I would say. I think he.

[A]

Perspective.

[B]

I think he really had to evaluate who he was as a person as opposed to a football player, which can be very eye opening. And then that was after the acl, let alone now after the Achilles you mentioned. He is a father. He has three kids. I would also understand if emotionally it's just too much.

[C]

And I don't see Trey as a guy trying to catch on with three different teams over a span of no no, no. I see Trey back home coaching his high school team in Louisiana. Yeah, I mean, I. At some point, I'm not saying he should quit or anything.

[A]

Correct.

[C]

I'm saying is he seems like a guy who would very much be at peace if it was done. So be it.

[A]

And if again, you talk about the trade that we've gotten to know over the years, that he's been open enough with his personality and all those things, if anybody go back and watch his zoom call when he got the extension was like one of the 50 minutes that'll have a tissue box with you because the, the emotion that he had for. For how much, you know, telling his parents and all of these things and that he did it and to get out of Shreveport. And I sat down with him and did a story about.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

What it was like for him coming out of Shreveport, Louisiana and all that he does a quarterback, as a quarterback and buying his mom a house and all of those things. Like there are. I think Trey's realized again, bigger things than football are out there. So. Yeah, like I said, we don't. I want Trey back. I want Tre back.

[C]

This was the Hot Take podcast, right?

[B]

Yeah, I guess so.

[A]

I want Trey back. Yeah, I want Trey back.

[C]

Hey, I, I would tell you this would be a better team if Trey's. He got a single shot of himself saying that. You see that?

[B]

No, I missed it.

[C]

I was good.

[A]

I want Trey back.

[C]

This. If Trey White is back as a good to high level corner.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

This is a better football team. I don't know what they think.

[B]

Is that a hot take?

[C]

No, I'm saying is that's the hot take. Is. I don't know.

[B]

Wow. I was not expecting such a spirited dialogue, but that's fair. I think you talk about the salary cap. Restructuring contracts is going to be something we're going to see a lot of from Brandon Bean. Josh Allen comes to mind his contract.

[A]

There goes $27 million. It's crazy how that works.

[C]

So Josh's dead. Cap hit if anybody thinks they want to trade him or cut him is $99 million. That would be a lot. So you're saying there's a chance he'll get restructured? I think Milano could get restructured. I think Ed Oliver could get restructured.

[B]

Milano's is almost 30, right?

[C]

29.3. Yes. Dawson Knox could.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

20.2. Ed Oliver's 26.5. And they. They can do that.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So we'll see what those are.

[A]

Dion's.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Dion's is not that High this year. It's only 11.8. Dead cap.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

So I think the deal at where he is. Let's look. Let's Talk digs.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

31 million against the cap. Dead cap.

[A]

He's not moving. He's not. They're not moving him.

[C]

They're. This. His new deal is just starting.

[A]

That is correct.

[C]

With the franchise. This idea. And I hear people talk about it like a deal and get rid of them. The cap hit stays with you. There are ways to lessen it a little bit and maybe you spread it onto next year so you're really kicking it down the road. But he's still your best wide receiver. He may not be what he was.

[A]

Exactly.

[C]

But if you're going to take this cap hit, like, what do you think? And I. I just don't see it happening in any way, shape or form that they deal him or cut him.

[B]

I just don't think. I don't think it's an option because of the dead cap. I. I think Diggs is in Buffalo, which we had a whole podcast talking about everything. You can check it out on the Buffalo Plus YouTube channel. Dan and I did. But do you think he's lost a step?

[A]

Dan lost a step from what I think is. It has to be the question. Is he. It is he still.

[C]

We.

[A]

I think we went into last year. I think we probably would have said after week four, he's still a top five wide receiver. Do I still think he's a top five? Probably not. I don't think that's a hot take.

[C]

Yeah, he's top 10, 10 to 15, somewhere in that range. Which still makes him. First of all, he's by far the best one you have.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And it's not like. And it's not like you could draft a guy and which they. They will, I think. And should. I'm just not moving on from Diggs. I'm just not.

[B]

I just. It doesn't even seem like an option.

[C]

Yeah, it's.

[A]

It's not.

[B]

I know a lot of Bills fans want Buffalo to draft a wide receiver in the draft too, which I understand. I also think free. Better free free agency, though, I think will be very telling and what they do and how they prepare their roster.

[C]

Well, you're going to need. You're going to need another. Unless they. I don't know what they think about shorter or guys like that, but you're going to need another receipt. Yeah. K.J. hamler. Worth a shot. Guys got a lot of. These are the kind of guys you bring in, they'll be there at camp. You know, you see those guys, they need a replacement for Sherfield, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

On the roster, that type of player. And your draft pick is going to replace Gabe Davis on the roster. Yeah, that's the way. Right.

[A]

Because yeah, I'm just, I just don't want any more value. Like again we talked about like I like Khalil Shakira. Like, like he's still a fifth round wide receiver. Like will there be a spot for him on this team and then the system. Yes, absolutely. But like you need to find a wide receiver that can massively impact games. Like you need a game changing talent in this draft class. You need to hit on it. Like it has to be somebody that can take some of the pressure off of Stefan Diggs and it's not Gabe Davis.

[C]

Is that his hot take?

[B]

I have a question for you. Do you think you are always up saying that essentially that Chiefs game for Gabe Davis was a bit of a fool's gold flash in the pan? How do you feel about Khalil Shakir?

[A]

Much more consistent Span of the, especially the last half of the season, especially when he had, you know, 17 targets, had 17 catches going back through that Dallas game, I think he became and again, different player. You're not going to ask Khalil Shakir to, to have 75, 80 yards a game. Like you need Khalil to have to go 4 for 50.

[B]

Well, do you think we were asking too much of Gabe Davis?

[A]

No, I. All I was asking for was 5 for 70.

[C]

I think you were asking too much of Davis because he proved he's not that guy. Yeah, he proved it two years in a row. They thought they had it and they didn't. And if he finds it somewhere else, maybe he will. I said somebody commented to us and they were like, Gabe's going to get number one money. There's not that many wide receivers on the free agent market. That doesn't mean you get number one money. There is a ton of wide receivers in the draft that teams are going to be taking.

[B]

Yeah, there's a ton of depth there.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

That's why I could see the Bills saying, oh well, maybe we go a different direction in the first round because.

[C]

I definitely could see that for wide receiver.

[B]

I'm not saying I like that, Dan, but I'm saying I could be so sad. Player available and hey, you know what great value, you know what great value is the Walmart brand? Yeah, yeah.

[A]

It's cereal in a bag.

[B]

No shame. I.

[C]

Why don't they trade a fourth round pick for IUK and the Niners. That would be a good deal, right?

[A]

That would be a good deal.

[C]

Do you think they would go for that? Yeah, maybe I would take him for fourth. Might even make it a third.

[A]

Hey, you wait. No, no, I got one better for it. Go get A.J. brown.

[C]

Yeah. His dead cap hit is only like 60 million. Got people saying they should trade A.J. brown.

[B]

Like, okay, you guys are. But I do. I would love Mike Evans. I think you would have to pay too much, but I would love Mike Evans.

[C]

Yeah, that one's a tough one to fit that in based on where they are.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I think you want to go younger.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

I want to go young. That was the big note I had. Like we talked about. Like, what would Brandon be do? Like, it's. It's younger everywhere. Like, it. It has to be. You have to get younger on the defensive line.

[B]

They had one of the oldest rosters in the league.

[A]

You have to get younger with.

[C]

But you can pick your spots with the older players. There may be some spots where you say for one year, like a Trey Jones, like a Trey White or Rasul Douglas.

[A]

Rasul's okay.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. Rasool's QB1.

[A]

CB1.

[C]

Oh, CB1. Yeah.

[B]

I didn't know if you did that on purpose.

[A]

It's Mike having a stroke.

[C]

Oh, believe me, it'd be way worse than that.

[B]

Oh, my God. I'm not putting that out there.

[C]

CB1. Yeah. CB1. He's CB1. Yeah, he is.

[A]

That's. I. And I get you talk about, like, being so active.

[C]

Christian Benford, actually.

[B]

Are you okay?

[A]

This is just an old moment. Gonna clip this. Yeah.

[C]

Clip away. Oh, I might need that. Celsius.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, I think that was why. I think that's why I'm okay with if they want to do. I was joking around. I think we talked about the one pod that you and I did, like, run it back one last time with hide employer.

[C]

Like, not okay with that.

[A]

I'm okay with it.

[C]

I think we saw this year I.

[B]

Said the same thing and I felt like a heartless person. Oh, my God.

[C]

Sometimes there's tough decisions to make.

[B]

I. I agreed with you last dance.

[A]

And they can both ride off in the sunset together.

[C]

This was the last dance.

[A]

No, but Poyer's back.

[C]

Maybe there's no guarantee. There is no guarantee. That is said $2 million dead cash.

[A]

Give me that again, Jenna.

[B]

That is correct. No, that is interesting.

[C]

2 million.

[B]

I didn't even.

[A]

0.

[B]

I didn't even 0. Chance. I didn't even comprehend.

[A]

0 chance. Fathom that the most, the most important position on the defense of Sean McDermott's defense and they're going to go completely brand new. Zero chance.

[B]

What is your thought process? Explain.

[C]

It's a lot of plays that Jordan Poyer made in his sleep that he didn't make this past year. Now they did find some different ways to use him that maybe that unlocks something that they feel that way. And you're right, maybe they don't want to go cold turkey. Both of them are gone.

[A]

That's my fear.

[C]

But they were ready to let him walk a year ago.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

They brought him back their number with a very cap friendly number for that second year for them.

[B]

Do you think though maybe he lost a step because there were so many new pieces.

[C]

Oh, that definitely contributed to it.

[A]

And the constant guys that were out.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Hey listen, you too, you want to bring them all back, keep the old guys around.

[B]

I said the same thing about Micah Hyde and it hurt me to say it though.

[A]

So the soft spot for Jerry Hughes, everybody else can all go. That's it. I learned my lesson the hard way.

[C]

I'm also telling you, number one, anybody you know, you get to a certain point in this league, it's about what you. I'm not telling you. It's always what you can do. There are also positions that they value and there's less ability to find somebody and that's like defensive tackle.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That's why a soon to be. I think 34 year old Daquan Jones could be back because they're going to prioritize. They need help. They have nobody on that D line.

[A]

But see like that's where I'd be okay with like clean slate. Could be new defensive tackles.

[C]

But you're also again let's. Let's see how it all maps out.

[A]

Or we're not in the building.

[B]

We gotta clip that.

[C]

Oh well. You guys want to run the whole roster back? You want everybody back? I heard Dan wants to sign Gabe to a five year deal.

[B]

We all know that's not true. Okay. Do we have to go? I don't know.

[C]

Whenever you're ready.

[B]

Okay, well, let's talk defensive line then.

[A]

I was gonna say one player. I thought that we wanted to say like that you would make a priority that was on this year's team that you want make a priority to bring back. Is there a player that you would.

[C]

Have that is a free agent?

[A]

That is a free agent.

[B]

See, I don't.

[C]

I honestly it's tough to say that there's anybody I would really prioritize, but I might say I saw enough in AJ Epanessa that I'd like him back.

[A]

That was mine.

[C]

I'd like him back.

[A]

I would want AJ back.

[C]

And that's going to be an interesting1 Because AJ's agent already knows that who's out there and interested. Right. They. They can't. He's still property of the Bills, but that's the way it works.

[B]

Epanessa is predicted to land a two year $11.2 million.

[A]

That would work.

[C]

I think I could make that work.

[A]

I think I could make that work.

[C]

Yeah. Okay.

[B]

And he's, he falls into the category of draft, develop, resign, which you know, we know the Bills are.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Very keen on. What about Leonard Floyd though?

[C]

I think he's going to get paid again by somebody else.

[A]

He seems like a mercenary that goes around every year, gets 10 sacks, cashes is a fat check for his one year deal and then honestly respect 100.

[B]

Yeah, he did say, kind of alluded to that.

[A]

He's going where the money's going.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

He also did say he wanted to be for playing for a competitor.

[C]

So he won a Super Bowl, Right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think that frees you up so much.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

He's already got his ring.

[A]

I still remember Leonard Floyd taking back a pick six against Nathan Peterman.

[B]

Oh, I remember when he had Aaron Rodgers season.

[C]

Oh, wait a minute.

[A]

I had. When he was with the Bears and he was running back and I have the like vividly like he's laughing, carrying the ball, running past me and there's just Peterman in the background. Oh, Nathan.

[C]

I remember when I called him Malcolm.

[B]

Forgot about that.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

No, you said it's a Vaughn.

[C]

Oh, I said it to Vaughn. That's right. And then Vaughn looked at me like. And then I later talked to Vaughn and I said vaughn, it's Malcolm Floyd played for the Chargers. And he gave me this look. I'm like, you played against him for like in the same division and he was a very good wide receiver. No relation to Leonard.

[A]

Correct.

[C]

But it's just the name, you know, I got a lot of names popping around in his head.

[B]

Oh.

[C]

God. Von was like, like, like he'd never heard of him before.

[A]

A guy that's been in the year league for 13 years.

[B]

Will this be 13.

[A]

Hot take for.

[C]

You Real quick, here we go. Right.

[A]

Von Miller leads the Bills and sacks next year.

[B]

That's.

[C]

I mean he could.

[B]

I feel it.

[C]

Better be Greg Russo.

[B]

That's. Yeah. That's fair.

[C]

Pressure on Bean.

[B]

Also Leonard Floyd sacking Aaron Rodgers and then tearing his Achilles is unbelievable. Unbelievable. Really, truly was.

[C]

All right, so anybody else you guys want to bring back? You want to get Lorenzo Alexander back?

[B]

Okay, first of all, I would bring.

[A]

Zobeck and I love.

[B]

He was such a great person. Great interview, great cast guy.

[C]

He could still play.

[A]

He could still play.

[B]

He is jacked. Yeah.

[C]

I would have liked him out there giving him some snaps against the Chiefs in that game, actually.

[B]

Yeah, he might have been a better.

[C]

Yeah. But honestly, do you guys have another player that's a free agent? Because they got a lot of them.

[B]

They certainly do.

[C]

And look, yeah, I like Floyd. I just don't think. I think he's going to be priced out.

[B]

Yeah, I agree. I think for me it was AJ and again, it's because of the, you know, draft developers resign. I think he's a nice rotational piece.

[A]

Ty Johnson, a free agent.

[C]

I think he's got one year left. Maybe I'm wrong.

[B]

What about. Oh, my gosh.

[C]

Well, then the other move you're gonna make is. And again, you guys are going to get emotional here. I think they're going to ask Mitch Morris to take a pay cut.

[B]

That's fair and I think he will.

[C]

Oh, you're okay with taking the man's money?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Different.

[C]

I was heartless.

[A]

Joe Biscalia was talking about of the athletic talked about void years at the end of it, pretty much making it a three year deal. But it's a one year deal.

[C]

Yeah. Well, you're basically just saying, oh, we did sign a piece of paper with you. They said, we're going to pay you $8 million, but we're only want to pay you 5.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

How's that for you?

[A]

That usually goes over well.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

What if the Bills draft a center?

[C]

Oh, they should be drafted.

[B]

No, I'm in like first round.

[C]

Oh, no, I don't think so.

[B]

Just stir in the pot.

[A]

Like Boomer.

[B]

I would expect for Mitch Morris to take a pay cut or. Well, in terms of what they do.

[C]

Heartless.

[B]

Stop it.

[A]

No, hard.

[B]

Stop it. Don't you. Don't do that. Don't you do that. All right, Anyone else? Bueller?

[C]

No, I think we're good.

[A]

I think we're good. Okay.

[B]

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[C]

And next week, Dan and I will be in Indianapolis. We are going to spend the whole time at St. Elmo's.

[A]

You know what I was thinking today as I was driving?

[C]

You were figuring what you're going to order.

[A]

I was sitting there, tag on. I'm eight days away from. Yeah. Eight days away from St. Elmos.

[C]

And by the way, don't ever go in there and just order a special. Like, they. When they go, oh, we have this cut of meat. This is a special.

[A]

You've ordered a special.

[C]

We. I ordered it the one time with Toby. The steak was more than my first car. It was a lot.

[A]

That's also, like, again, we talked about it before. I think the NFL combine is awesome. I love the NFL Combine. Jenna hates it. I think it's so incredible that the entire NFL universe shows up in Indianapolis.

[C]

And there's like three bars there, and so you'll know where to find them.

[B]

I just don't like the whole, I'm not a good networker.

[A]

Oh, it's so funny. The first time we walked into St. Elmo's, and it was just like, Drew Rosenhaus, Ian Rapaport, and you're just sitting there like, wow.

[C]

And then Jerry Jones walks in with his whole team. And, you know, my buddy Sal Pal will be there.

[B]

He's probably going to probably have dinner with us. Hey, D. Be there.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Gave him a big hug last year.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Nice. Yeah, I just. It's not for me.

[A]

Also, this is probably something that should be talked about off air, but are we going to try and do these podcasts during the off season, hopefully. And release them Tuesday morning? Is that the plan? Like, do we want to set a date? We want the audience to know when we're going to have videos coming out on a consistent.

[C]

Unless there is some other reason.

[B]

But yes, correct.

[A]

But we're gonna try and correct. That is correct. Have Tuesdays. And then if we do have something later on in the week, if that's.

[C]

Especially for the off season.

[A]

Yeah, Thursday or Friday. But we're gonna try. And you will wake up Tuesday morning to a new video on the YouTube channel or wherever you listen to your podcast.

[C]

And this is different next week because Dan and I will be full of content. I say in Italian.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Is that any different than what you guys usually do?

[C]

No. Yeah.

[B]

Okay. So we'll have plenty of content on the Buffalo. Plus YouTube channel. And we'll be doing these weekly podcasts throughout the off season. So please be sure to, like, comment and subscribe. We appreciate we're so close to 30, 000, and then. Yeah, it's exciting.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And then we get that plaque.

[C]

We get a plaque.

[A]

I want that plaque.

[B]

Do you?

[A]

Very bad.

[B]

I didn't know you got a plaque.

[C]

Yeah, I just saw Chris Long got his. Yeah, that's cool.

[B]

We'll be hanging in the background. That's sick.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. All right, well, for Dan and Mike, I'm Jenna. Thank you for watching the Buffalo Plus YouTube channel again. Please be sure to, like, comment, subscribe. We'll catch you next time here on Buffalo Plus. Oh, my God. Were you not recording.

[A]

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