What they're saying in NY about Bills vs Jets with Jeane Coakley

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Buffalo Plus – What They're Saying in NY about Bills vs Jets with Jeane Coakley

Date: September 10, 2025

Host: Mike Catalana (Buffalo Plus)
Guest: Janae Coakley (SNY), Bart Scott (briefly)

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Overview

This episode offers an in-depth preview of the Buffalo Bills vs. New York Jets matchup in Week 2 of the 2025 NFL season. The conversation features SNY’s Jets beat reporter Janae Coakley, who provides insider insights from the Jets camp, including the impact of new head coach Aaron Glenn, cultural shifts within the team, and expectations for the game. The panel also reflects on Week 1 results, the departure of Aaron Rodgers, and how both franchises are striving to evolve.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Aaron Glenn Era: Culture Change in New York

• Aaron Glenn’s Background
  • Former Jet as a player and scout; first head coaching stint with NYJ
  • Immediate culture shift: “He doesn’t mess around. He doesn’t mince words. It’s his way, and this is how we're going to do it. And the players love him.” (Coakley, 01:52)
• Establishing a Winning Mentality
  • Glenn pushes accountability; no excuses or moral victories
  • Focus on building a culture and teaching players how to win
  • “He’s teaching these guys how to win... and you have to find a coach and a culture in order to do that.” (Coakley, 01:52-02:54)

2. Jets’ Roster & Week 1 Takeaways

• Talent and Cornerstones
  • “You got Quinnen Williams. You have Sauce Gardner. You have Garrett Wilson… Will McDonald, Jermaine Johnson… They have cornerstones. But they've never won before.” (Coakley, 03:59)
• Overcoming Last Year’s Close Losses
  • Belief that the Jets will “get over that hump” rather than drop close games
  • Glenn’s insistence on accountability and a ‘next man up’ mentality

3. The Aaron Rodgers Aftermath

• “Dear God, I’m so glad that chapter has changed… Closed. We're done.” (Coakley, 05:17)
• Rodgers’ return to MetLife led to heavy booing:
  • “That was the Jets fans... Do you think they're going to cheer for him when he comes out on that field?” (Coakley, 06:49)
  • Panel agrees Jets fans are eager to move forward

4. Justin Fields: New QB, Strong Debut

• Fields praised for confidence and command in Week 1 vs. Steelers
  • “He commanded that offense… he was confident, and that offense looked really good.” (Coakley, 07:38)
• Offensive line held up despite injuries—rookies performed versus elite rushers
• Offensive improvement:
  • “First time since 1991 that the Jets haven't punted in the first half.” (Coakley, 08:28)
• Fields’ Week 1 stats: 16-of-22, 218 yards, 1 TD

5. Jets’ Offense: Identity and Personnel

• Ground Game Priority
  • “They want to be that ground and pound team. They don't want to be pretty… as Aaron Glenn says, we want to be violent.” (Coakley, 11:14)
• Featured Back: Breece Hall
  • Hall’s resurgence, especially against Buffalo, is expected: “He was playing with confidence… it's the first time I saw that confidence back in him.” (Coakley, 12:21)
• Potential RB-by-committee approach as the season goes on

6. Contracts, Locker Room Dynamics, and Homegrown Talent

• Jets rewarding draft picks who perform, sending a message to locker room
  • “You perform the way they did… you act like a Jet, you’re going to get paid.” (Coakley, 13:55)
• Sauce Gardner’s progression includes shadowing top receivers

7. Defensive Concerns: Secondary, D-line

• Secondary Struggles vs. Pittsburgh
  • “Michael Carter had a bad game… Tony Adams struggled… Rogers threw for four TDs and had 73% completion.” (Coakley, 15:17)
  • Loss of D.J. Reed noted as significant
• D-Line as Team’s Strength
  • Jermaine Johnson, Will McDonald, Quinnen Williams, and Harrison Phillips (former Bill) all spotlighted for disruption and leadership
  • “This Jets defensive line is their bread and butter.” (Coakley, 16:36)

8. Leadership in the Locker Room

• Glenn sets tone, but player leaders include Quinnen Williams, Garrett Wilson, John Simpson, Jermaine Johnson
• Glenn is “no-nonsense,” reminiscent of Bill Parcells’ influence

9. Fanbase, Atmosphere, and Optimism

• Fans embrace Glenn’s authenticity as a former Jet
  • “He gets it. He understands. He’s one of us.” (Coakley, 20:49)
• Notable home opening crowd energy—no late exodus, optimism draws comparisons to Bills’ own rise in 2017
• “They saw an offense they haven’t seen in a long time, and a coach who’s aggressive.” (Coakley, 21:50)

10. Special Teams and Accountability

• After a costly Xavier Gibson fumble, Glenn “does not mess around”—uncertain if Gibson returns this week

11. Coaching Influences

• Glenn influenced by Parcells, Campbell, but “makes it clear—I am Aaron Glenn… I take all these little pieces, but don’t compare me to anybody, because this is who I am.” (Coakley, 23:29)

12. Bills vs. Jets: Rivalry, Recent History, and Week 2 Outlook

• Jets vs. Bills games consistently close—recent splits, mutual respect but edge on the Bills’ side
• “Why not us?” is the hopeful Jets’ mentality this season
• To beat Buffalo: “Run the ball, and force the Bills to make mistakes… you can’t let Josh Allen win the game… contain him… D line’s got to get to him early and often.” (Coakley, 30:01)

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• On Aaron Glenn’s Culture:
  “He doesn’t mess around. He doesn’t mince words. It’s his way, and this is how we're going to do it. And the players love him.”
  — Jeane Coakley, (01:52)

• On the fan’s relationship with Aaron Glenn:
  “He was a Jet. He knows what it's like to be. And I think the fans embrace that. Like, oh, he gets it. He understands. He's one of us.”
  — Jeane Coakley, (20:49)

• “That was the Jets fans... Do you think they're going to cheer for [Rodgers] when he comes out on that field?”
  — Jeane Coakley, (06:49)

• On the Jets’ Week 1 offensive improvement:
  “First time since 1991 that the Jets haven't punted in the first half.”
  — Jeane Coakley, (08:28)

• On Defensive Line:
  “This Jets defensive line is their bread and butter.”
  — Jeane Coakley, (16:36)

• On how to beat the Bills:
  “You gotta contain [Josh Allen]… and that D line's gotta get to him early and often.”
  — Jeane Coakley, (30:01)

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Timestamps – Important Segments

• Aaron Glenn’s Culture Shift: 01:52–03:59
• Assessing Week 1, Justin Fields Performance: 07:38–09:06
• Jets Offensive Identity: 11:14–12:21
• Locker Room & Contract Culture: 13:55–14:39
• Defensive Issues and Adjustments: 15:17–16:36
• Leadership Discussion: 18:35–19:38
• Fanbase & Stadium Energy: 20:49–21:50
• Special Teams Accountability: 22:21–22:57
• Coaching Influences: 23:29–24:20
• Rivalry and Week 2 Preview: 24:58–27:44
• How Jets Plan to Beat the Bills: 30:01–30:36

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Tone & Style

The episode blends insider analysis with relatable, fan-focused conversation—a mix of reportorial insight (Coakley) and veteran Buffalo media perspective (Catalana), maintaining a slightly informal, candid tone throughout. The friendly banter and honest opinions make it accessible to both hardcore fans and casual listeners.

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Recommended for:
Anyone seeking a thorough, candid preview of the upcoming Bills-Jets matchup, with a focus on cultural change, team dynamics, and game planning from the New York perspective. Also valuable for fans curious about pivotal figures and the new look of the Jets organization.

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Transcript

[Janae Coakley]

He was a Jet. He knows what it's like to be. And I think the fans embrace that. Like, oh, he gets it. He understands. He's one of us.

[Mike Catalana]

Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the Buffalo plus YouTube channel. We are very excited for our guest today. As always, I have to start by telling you, please make sure to, like, comment and subscribe. Mike Catalana with you for this and back. A friend of the pod, a regular with us because we play the Bills. Play the jets twice a year. Janae Coakley of S N Y. Welcome back to the show.

[Janae Coakley]

Mike has been great. How many years is this? I was thinking about that.

[Mike Catalana]

I think it's probably five. Yes, yes. We always catch up during the games. We catch up when we see you at Combine and all those different places. By the way, we are. Okay, so this is. You are getting the sneak peek at our view of our new Connors and Ferris podcast studio. You were just seeing the small portion of it. When we do our podcast coming up on Thursday for all the Buffalo plus viewers, you'll get a chance to see the whole thing. The layout is different. Dan and Jenna will be on the couch over here. The old man gets his chair by himself. That's the way it works for us. So that's what we have going on. But a little sneak preview.

[Janae Coakley]

Well, it was nice because I texted you before. I was like, nice studio looking.

[Mike Catalana]

Yeah. Here we go. So Connors and Ferris coming through for us. All right, let's talk Jets. Let's start bigger picture, and then we want to talk about what we saw in the game against the Steelers. But let's talk bigger picture. I want to know what Aaron Glenn is like. I mean, you've had a lot of guys in and out of that building, and Aaron Glenn has been a Jet before. What's it been like from the spring and the summer now transitioning into the season?

[Janae Coakley]

Well, Aaron Glenn, like you said, was drafted in the first round by the New York Jets. He started out his scouting career with the jets, and now his first head coaching job is with the Jets. He knows what it's like to be a Jet, and he is changing the culture. He doesn't mess around. He doesn't mince words. He doesn't. It's his way, and this is how we're going to do it. And the players love him. They respect him. They understand because, like, Sauce Gardner says, he was me. He's like. And he did it at a high level. And he was also the guy who came in and they had a terrible first season. And they turned it around with Bill Parcels. So he understands, like, what it is to be a Jet. And you can feel that you can go into the building. You feel like, hey, listen, this isn't like, oh, you know, we just have to be in games. No, we're going to win games. That's. That's unacceptable. Like, oh, if we don't make the playoffs. No, he's teaching these guys how to win. And as you know, that's important. You guys were part of that, you know, before the Josh Allen and when you got these players have to learn how to win, and you have to find a coach and a culture in order to do that.

[Mike Catalana]

I've been fascinated watching him because it takes me back to 2017 with the Bills. Now, Sean McDermott did not play in the NFL, but he'd coached for a while in the NFL. That 2017 Bills team that he took over was not a great team, but they had some players on that team. They had pretty good players on defense. They had Lashawn McCoy in the backfield. They had Tyrod Taylor as the quarterback.

[Janae Coakley]

Who, by the way, is a Jets backup quarterback, as you know.

[Mike Catalana]

Exactly. And they had a drought of 17 seasons of not making the playoffs. And somehow that team, it wasn't always pretty, and it took right up to the last minute. And they needed help from the Ravens. That team made the playoffs. Now, I'm not saying I think or no or feel like the jets are going to make it. You never know how it goes in the league. But nobody expected that Bill's team to do it. But it started with Sean McDermott and culture, a culture they have built. And then obviously, the culture helps when you get Josh Allen. But that feeling of, like, the ground floor and building something, you must be sensing that in the jets locker room.

[Janae Coakley]

That's exactly. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. And you're just like before, you're like, jets are. Here we go. They're gonna look good like the first quarter. And like, oh, here we go. But you saw the mindset change in that. Just in this first week. Steel, Week one against the Steelers. Like, the mindset is slowly changing. And again, the jets have key players. You got Quinn and William. You have Sauce Gardner. You have Garrett Wilson. You have, you know, Olu Fashion, who looks like he might be the guy. You got Will McDonald. You have Jermaine Johnson, you have Jamie Sherwood. You have cornerstones. And. But they've never won before. I mean, that's part of the problem. They've won. I mean, Quinn Williams won in college, but I don't know how many games Quinn and Williams actually won in the NFL, but it's not that many if you think about it. So I think those games where the jets were in last year, that they lost by three points, where they lost by one point, you're not going to see that this year. You're going to see them get over that hump. Because Aaron Glenn, he ain't going to make excuses. He. He. It's accountability. He point the finger at himself and point the finger at yourself. There's no excuses. You're going to win these games. If not, next man up, he doesn't care. I mean, he truly is. I don't care. We're going to win these games, and if you don't want to be part of me, then go somewhere else.

[Mike Catalana]

So I was gonna say it this way. What was it like to not have, you know, Aaron Rodgers in the building yet? He was in the building.

[Janae Coakley]

Dear God, I'm so glad that chapter has changed. Yeah. Closed. We're done. I don't talk about this man again. We're done. We're done.

[Mike Catalana]

Okay. Let me ask you about Aaron Rogers. First of all, what. Just what was it like on Sunday?

[Janae Coakley]

It was crazy. I mean, like, like, can you really. I mean, can. Could you written a better script for the NFL? I mean, really, like, week one, here we go again. Aaron Rodgers coming in to MetLife Stadium. And then Justin Fields, who was with the Steelers last year, week one. And it was a good game. I mean, back and forth, back and forth. But of course, shocking. Aaron Rodgers had to walk away with the win. But at this point, it's almost like, okay, now you can go. You got your revenge on a team that did everything for you. Now let's. You know, I, I love how they're. He was so, like, angry and stuff. Like, what did the jets actually do to you?

[Bart Scott]

Yeah.

[Janae Coakley]

At the end of the day, I mean, they did everything for you. It just didn't work out.

[Bart Scott]

Yeah.

[Mike Catalana]

So I know you're. You're at the game, Right? So on the broadcast, I was watching before we left to go up to the Bills game and Iron Eagles doing the game, I think is with J.J. watt, and Rogers comes out and there's a lot of Booze.

[Janae Coakley]

Yes.

[Mike Catalana]

And J.J. watts says something like, well, you know, there's a lot of Steelers fans or whatever he was talking about. And then he's like. And also, you know, teams boo the visiting quarterback.

[Bart Scott]

And I need.

[Mike Catalana]

Was like, no, they're booing them because. Because of what happened with the Jets, Right? It's jets fans booing him going out on the field, right?

[Janae Coakley]

Yes, 100%. 100%. That was the Jet. You know, jets fans, you know them very well. Do you think they're going to cheer for him when he comes out on that field?

[Mike Catalana]

No. And look, like you said, he got the win. Then he's taking his bows afterward and saying, you know, it wasn't about Aaron Glenn. It's about the whole Jets. It's fine for the Jets. I, I said I was going to ask you about that because we talked a lot about him last year when they played. Now you got Justin Fields, third opportunity. Though the Pittsburgh one was interesting, but, you know, where he started out, he was going to be the guy in Chicago and then he's there and now he's with the Jets. What has he been like? I, I thought he played considerably better than I think most people would have thought. In the first game, especially after watching.

[Janae Coakley]

Preseason and training camp, you're like, well, you know, we'll see what we have here. He commanded that offense. I mean, Tanner Angstrom has been phenomenal for him. You know, when you find that guy like they, those two, I just. Again, it's week one, as I like to tell people. Let's calm down. But just the mixing up of the run game, the passing game, the. Justin Field was confident. He. He was confident. I guess that's the best way to explain it. Like, he commanded that offense, he was confident, and that offense looked really good. I mean, you would think week one, a little rusty. You know, we've seen Justin Fields. Let's see what they have here. No, they, I mean, they ran the ball, they threw the ball, he ran the ball. They mixed it up. I mean, it was a legitimate offense working out there.

[Bart Scott]

Yeah.

[Mike Catalana]

No punts in the first half.

[Janae Coakley]

First time since 1991.

[Mike Catalana]

Wow. Really?

[Janae Coakley]

How crazy is that? The first time since 1991 that the jets haven't punted in the first half.

[Mike Catalana]

Wow, that's.

[Janae Coakley]

That's a lot. You're welcome. Yep.

[Mike Catalana]

So his efficiency was off the charts. 10 yards an attempt, 16 to 22. He had the one touchdown. 218 yards. They'd sign up for that for 17 weeks, I think that type of play. And he got Garrett Wilson involved right away. And Garrett was little.

[Janae Coakley]

People were like, well, you know, I'm not sure how much of the receivers are going to be involved in this right away. Like you said, he got in 33 yard touchdown.

[Bart Scott]

Yeah.

[Mike Catalana]

And I, I thought, you know, especially with the injury to Vera Tucker on the offensive line, I thought the offensive line held up pretty well for him. Was that the thought or was there still some issues you're looking at with the O line?

[Janae Coakley]

I mean, AVT was a huge piece when he went down. I mean, I thought he was playing one of the best. Had one of his best training camps. He was one of, one of, if not the best offensive line. So you lose him the week before. They move Tipman over to right guard with member the rookie going up against TJ Watt and Cam Hayward. That doesn't sound like it's going to be really successful, does it? But they did a hell of a job. I mean, that old line, but that's been the talk you got to build up front and that's what Aaron's been talking about. And I mean, you have Olu from last year, you have Member from this year, you got Tippman, you got Simpson, and then you have Josh Meyers who's the backup in Green Bay. And Justin has legs he can use. So I think that helps to have that mobile quarterback back there having these big guys. You got Bree hall, who's a heck of a weapon, and then you got the big boy, Braylon Allen when he's not around, and then they bring in Mason Taylor. So I think they're protecting Justin and this line is doing exactly what they need to do for him.

[Mike Catalana]

Yeah, you mentioned Breeze hall. The team ran 39 times, 182 yards and still had, you know, a lot of contributions from the passing game. Is that who they want to be though, in general? Right. Do they want to be a running team and then play off of that for Fields 100?

[Janae Coakley]

They want to be. I'm sorry, my microphone keeps falling. Can you hear me?

[Mike Catalana]

I hear you.

[Janae Coakley]

All right, hang on. Let's grab my microphone. I feel like the jets fourth quarter and they kicked the 60 yard field goal. Okay. The Steelers. Did.

[Mike Catalana]

You take your time? We can. We'll clip that out and then.

[Janae Coakley]

Yeah, okay. I don't have a clip for it and they're supposed to be getting me a new one. Okay, here we go.

[Bart Scott]

All right.

[Janae Coakley]

You know, run game, right? Is that we're talking about.

[Mike Catalana]

Yeah, yeah.

[Janae Coakley]

So I, I think the jets want to be that ground and pound team. They want. They don't want to be pretty. They just want to. They, as Aaron Glenn says, we want to be violent. We want to just be dirty and we want to just get the job done. And blue collar, like just run the ball and then use their passing game. But I thought they did a really good job of mixing it both up. Like I thought they ran the ball, they threw the ball like it was a really well planned offense. But again I let. I'm excited to see what they do against the Bills. Yeah, Week two where there's film on them, different defense. Let's see. Because week one, it's exactly like you said. Jets fans would sign up for that for the rest of their lives.

[Bart Scott]

Yeah.

[Mike Catalana]

So you talked about Bree Hall, 19 carries, 107 yards. His last 100 yard game was last year against the Bills. He's had two against the Bills in five games. So the Bills have gotten to see Breece hall, the guy jets fans were hoping he could be on a regular basis. But committing to the run and with his talent, ability. He's the featured guy. Right. It's still. Breece hall is the featured guy.

[Janae Coakley]

Well, Aaron's really wanted. I mean he's talked this entire time. It's running back by committee. I think that's what they want to do. Breece Breeze can also catch the ball real well too. So I can see him being able to catch more right now. He is the featured guy. But don't be surprised if later in the year you start seeing Braylon Allen more and you start because it was running backs by committee. So I think it depends on the game plan, who they're playing against. Obviously, as you said, Breeze does real well against that Buffalo defense. And Breeze was looking like Breeze of before. Like right. That he had that quick step and he was playing with confidence like he was coming up and jumping up and it was the first time I saw that confidence that back in him because last year you didn't see the confidence as much this year. And plus he's in contract year so that makes a big difference too.

[Mike Catalana]

Speaking of contract year, you know he signed a couple of guys and we're going to get into sauce too. I always tell, you know, when we talk about the Bills here, I say players in the locker room know who gets paid. They notice who gets paid. Like it is a thing and they're happy for the other guys but they want to see. So they're starting to. And they did this year, big off season. Was that both rewarding these guys and sending a bit of a message to you play that way we're going to keep you here with the jets as opposed to what we've seen honestly with teams are going bad, guys want to get out the door. Do you think that starts to change things? Not everybody is, you know, Garrett Wilson or, or Sash Car. But if those guys, if guys play and perform, they're going to get paid, right?

[Janae Coakley]

Exactly. And they're the homegrown guys. That's what Aaron Dillon wants to do. You were drafted a jet and you're going to. We want you to stay a Jet. You perform like. Like you said, you perform the way they did. They're the guys that are always out there. They're four years. You're going to get paid and you're going to. If you play like a jet, you act like a Jet, you're going to get paid. And that's exactly what he's trying to do. Like before the season. Let's just take care of this so we don't have to deal with it. And Sauce showed why they paid him. He. Well, I think allowed DK Metcalf one catch like, and he was finally been able to travel with guys because he's been wanting to that his whole career. But with Stalin Ulbricht's defense, that's not the way they operated.

[Mike Catalana]

Right.

[Janae Coakley]

So Sauce now can move around and travel with guys. So I think you're going to see Sauce even step it up a whole nother level now.

[Mike Catalana]

You know what's kind of wild about that? You really need your two or three corner to be ready because you know they're not going to throw at Sauce. No, I mean, that's. If he's playing the way he's seems to have started out this year in this defense, it's great to have that guy, but it just opens up the targets to everybody else, so they got to be ready. How are they in the rest of the secondary? Numbers wise? Rogers and the Steelers put up, you know, big numbers and scored in the 30s. How were they in the rest of the past coverage and what do you think we'll see this week?

[Janae Coakley]

Well, I'll let. I'm going to tell you what I'll say. The way Scott Sauce said it, it was unacceptable. Yeah, I mean, Michael Carter had a bad game and he's always been on top of it. Tony Adams struggled. There's Guy. I mean, don't forget The jets lost D.J. reed, who was just as good as Sauce. I mean, back last year, two years, two straight years, they had two solid corners. They brought in Stevens, paid him a lot of money and he really struggled. That's who Aaron picked on the entire day. You left out left Sauce loan but struggled. So I mean, like you said, Rogers threw for four TDs and had 73% completion. And that wasn't a lot to DK Metcalf. So you tell me how the rest of the secondary performed.

[Bart Scott]

Yeah.

[Janae Coakley]

Which don't forget, Aaron Glenn is. Plays the secondary. So there's no way in hell Aaron Glenn is going to think this is okay. So I'm going to be quite curious to see how they go up against Josh Allen and your crew.

[Bart Scott]

Yeah.

[Mike Catalana]

Pass rush wise or even the defensive line wise. What did you see in. In week number one? And you know what? Is there anybody, when you look at their D line that flashed a little bit, that is somebody that maybe people haven't noticed as much and they'll be looking for Sunday when the. When the Bills go to the Jets.

[Janae Coakley]

Well, the D line is. That's what the jets defense. I mean, that's been the star of the show. And that's going to be the star of the show. I mean, you've heard of Jermaine Johnson. He came off of Achilles and he got, I think like four or five quarterback pressures. Didn't get a sack. And Quinn and Williams is no secret. Will McDonald's two sacks against Rogers, he's picked right back up where he's left off. I mean, Phil and Phillips, he's. Like I said, this jets defensive line is their bread and butter. And it's not the. Aaron Glenn is shy. I mean, they're aggressive and they get after it.

[Mike Catalana]

Harrison Phillips is a former Buffalo Bill, was very popular when he was here.

[Janae Coakley]

And that's why I said you all know all about Phillips.

[Bart Scott]

Yeah.

[Mike Catalana]

How's he been so far?

[Janae Coakley]

I haven't interviewed him once, but he's been like in the locker room. Guys love him. And yeah, he's so good for Quinnan, too, because it takes the pressure off for Quinn and Williams. They play off really well of each other. Guys absolutely love him. I've heard players like, yeah, my boy Phillips. Oh, yeah. Like, yeah, it's. He fit in quite nicely with this D line. So he said he was shocked, though. I remember that. Didn't he say he was a little surprised when he found out?

[Mike Catalana]

Yeah. Where he ends up, I want to know. I want to bring back to Rogers only because of an overall vibe in a place. Here's what we're saying. You walk in the Bills and the locker room and the whole place. I mean, Josh Allen kind of sets a tone in that place. It wasn't him in the beginning. I mean, it's McDermott. Obviously, it's the way the Bills operate, but the way Josh Allen is with his teammates, guys on offense, his O line he's got his handshakes, the whole thing. I think the vibe was a certain way with Rodgers. He's a different personality. I'm not saying this for Justin Fields to pick it up because that would be a lot coming in a new team. He's still a relatively young player. Who sets the tone now for the Jets? Player wise.

[Janae Coakley]

I was going to say Aaron Glenn. Yes, but player wise, you got. You got the Quinn and Williams who's been there. You got the Garrett Wilson over on offense that got paid and. But you also got the John Simpson. You saw John Simpson, what he did when Jalen Ramsey went after his quarterback. No, you don't do that. I mean, dump penalty. But I feel you can kind of write that off a little bit. Like. But I think a guy like Quinn, Williams on defense, Jermaine Johnson, he was a huge. They missed him so much last year in towards Achilles, but he all. They also missed his leadership on the field. I don't think he got enough credit for what he does on the field. He's back. There's a. Again, there's a good group of guys that I feel like. I tell you this all the time, there's such a good locker room. But now they have that leader in Aaron Glenn. That shows them. Let's take this next step up. This is what we're going to do. And if you don't step up and be who you need to be, then there's the door. We got someone else. And that's where Aaron Glenn is. He is. No nonsense.

[Mike Catalana]

And he's got that swag leeway, but he also has the leeway now, right? You come in, say, this is what I'm going to do. And I think everybody knows it right away. I mean, when you have a coach at the end like Salah was, he doesn't have that. He's. He's trying to hold on to it and he's going to go and that's what ends up happening. But Aaron Glenn as a Jet, as a guy they signed that went out to get from a successful program with the Lions, and then he comes in. So, you know, it's. It's pro sports. It's not always my way or the highway, but it's my way. Right. If you're that right, head coach. I'm just always curious about that because I look at the jets and I think, you know, it's not just been. It's not always been talent. It's. It's been that culture, it's been that vibe. The loss in the opening game is tough, but they showed a lot around. I want to know what that crowd was like, irregardless of the Rogers part, just in general, and what the fan base has been like giving a guy who's still trying to end this drought, though he just came in trying to end that and build up this team. What's the fan base's thoughts on Glenn in general, and what do you think it'll be as the year goes on?

[Janae Coakley]

I go back to. He was a Jet. He. He knows what it's like to be. And I think the fans embrace that. Like, oh, he gets it. He understands. He's one of us. Like, he's gonna. And usually by the fourth quarter, the crowds kind of thin out. Didn't happen this time. Like, the crowd was there and they were cheering. And I just think, again, the outcome wasn't what they wanted. And. And Aaron Glenn. We don't have moral victories. We should have won that game. That's. And that's how Aaron Glenn is. Yeah, sure, we played better. You know, the offense looked good, the defense struggle, but there is no more victories. No, that's bull crap. But I think the fans sense that optimism. Like, oh, okay. Like, they're cautiously optimistic because they under. They saw an offense that they haven't seen in a long time, and they saw a coach who's aggressive, and they saw a coach who's like, all right, let's get this done. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, they saw that, called out the. You know, the fumble. That is not. Not acceptable. The defense. No, that's not. Okay. Like, they saw that and heard that.

[Bart Scott]

Yeah.

[Mike Catalana]

The. Xavier Gibson.

[Janae Coakley]

You also. The Bills know him very well.

[Bart Scott]

Yes.

[Mike Catalana]

Ran the punt back for the touchdown to win that game a couple of years ago. Yeah, but that was tough, though, because you know that they've done so many things well, and then to give up the ball and give up the touchdown, especially.

[Janae Coakley]

He's such a great guy.

[Bart Scott]

Yeah.

[Mike Catalana]

But here's the case. Like, when he says not acceptable, like, is. Is he back out returning kicks this week? Is that the way he would operate?

[Janae Coakley]

I personally, I don't. I don't expect to see him out returning kicks this year. This week. This week against the Bills. I mean, people are. Some people, like, he needs to be caught. I'm like, all right, guys, come on. People make mistakes. Like, let's.

[Bart Scott]

Yeah.

[Janae Coakley]

And. And Xavier Gibson stood in front of his locker and took full accountability. Like, you just want to go and hug him as mom. I just was like, oh, it's okay. We all make mistakes. But I. I don't know. I think he's going to have to earn that trust and earn that back because a. Glenn Ag does not mess around. Yeah, no, sorry. I can't trust you back there. You.

[Mike Catalana]

He's got a big personality. He also was with Dan Campbell.

[Janae Coakley]

Yes.

[Mike Catalana]

So is he. Does he. Has he talked about what it was like and if. And an influence there? Obviously he had Bill Parcells, who was sort of in a different way. Dan Campbell before Shane Campbell. But they're all kind of connected there because they all have been worked together.

[Janae Coakley]

As he talked out in the Saints.

[Mike Catalana]

Yes. So is he. Is he talked about his influences as a head coach and who it is.

[Janae Coakley]

He has. He says a little bit of everything. Yeah, I. I think Parcells was the guy who really influenced him, but he doesn't necessarily. Like, he doesn't want to be someone else. He makes it clear. I am Aaron Glenn. I take all these pieces of little coaches, but don't compare me anybody because this is who I am going to be. He does talk about it. He's. Like I said, he is. This is his dream job. Like how many people get to literally pick your dream job? And this is exactly where he wants to be. This is how he wanted to do it. I mean, and he started from the. He worked his way up and has been influenced by so many different people. But again, I think Bill Parcell is just kind of how he runs things. It's very Bill Parcel ish. But I didn't know Dan Campbell that well. I've never seen him, but I would say that's been his greatest influence.

[Bart Scott]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Mike Catalana]

Because that. I mean, look, he took over a Lions team that was a mess. Really. And had a. Not as poor of a history in total recent years because, I mean, they had some pretty good players. They just couldn't do anything. And he's. He's rebuilt that entire thing. And Aaron Glenn was all there for him. All right, so Bill's fans will make the trip. They will come down to.

[Janae Coakley]

No. Yeah. You guys really do.

[Bart Scott]

Yeah.

[Mike Catalana]

So what's the atmosphere going to be like? I know it's early and I know they had a. A good, though disappointing ending to the game. If you're a Bills fan showing up, what should you expect to see and hear from jets fans?

[Janae Coakley]

Exactly what you always hear on week two when you're playing the Bills. Yeah, there. But a little more optimism and a little more. Yeah. Okay. I mean, the Bills and the jets games have been very, very. Except that last, last, the last time they played down at your place. But that season was pretty much over for the Jets. It, it, they're always, they always play close. I mean, the Jets, I think, have won two of the last three. Don't call me. I mean, so. And jets fans feel like, you know what? We're doing what you guys did, like we saw what you did in 2017. Guess what, guess what? That's what we're going to do right now. We're trying to turn, flip the switch. And I mean, as you see, it doesn't look like Miami is going to be that great. No, the Patriots. So I mean, in order to be the best, they know they have to beat the best. And that right now belongs to the Bills. So I think jets fans are like, you know what we got? We're gonna come in here, we're be loud and proud and. But again, it's going to be a typical Bills, jets fans, you know.

[Bart Scott]

Yeah.

[Mike Catalana]

Because I, I, I would say on the field, when you hear Dion Dawkins of the Bills, he's very vocal about it. He'll talk about it this week. He's got some issues with some jets in the past, and I think he still carries that on. It's kind of funny when you see that it's less about like, people would think it's the Dolphins or it's the Patriots, but it really was the jets and it spilled out on the field. But I think some of that comes from the fact that even though the Bills were the better team, most of the time, the jets were right there with them. I mean, it's been, it's been hard for the Bills to put them away. And, and I would think if, if I'm the Jets this week, I'm looking at it like, why not? Why not us in this?

[Janae Coakley]

Exactly. And that's just it. Like you said. Yeah, the Bills dominate the AFC east for the last. But the Miami Dolphins have swept the Jets a lot more than the Bills have. Yeah, Patriots, the same thing. I mean, so the jets and the Bills, they, for some reason, the jets always stay all. It always comes down to those last plays. And a lot of times, I mean, again, last December, it was disastrous for the jets and in Buffalo. But like I said, when was the last time the Bills won at MetLife Stadium?

[Mike Catalana]

They won. Oh, the game. Rogers threw the pass and receiver fell. Bills picked it off right at the end. Two years. Wait a minute.

[Janae Coakley]

No, it had it been last year.

[Mike Catalana]

Last year? Yes. Last year. Yes, yes.

[Janae Coakley]

Oh, you did sweep. You you swept the jets last year. That's right. That's right. Well, see, I'm getting all confused, but the year before they split, and then. The year before they split.

[Bart Scott]

Yeah.

[Janae Coakley]

Yes, yes, you're right.

[Mike Catalana]

Yes. So that's right.

[Janae Coakley]

Because Rogers came in to close out.

[Mike Catalana]

Games, and it was right after that game that the jets traded for devonte Adams.

[Janae Coakley]

Yeah.

[Mike Catalana]

Or traded for. Signed him. And then the Bills.

[Bart Scott]

Yeah.

[Mike Catalana]

Signed Amari Cooper right after that.

[Janae Coakley]

And how that work out for us, and how did that work out for the jets and how that work out for the Bills?

[Mike Catalana]

Neither one. Right. Neither one really did anything. And now Amari Cooper has retired. All right. I always ask this for the Jets. I know it's week two, by the way, before I get to that, did you get a chance to see the Bills and the Ravens? And if so, what?

[Janae Coakley]

Oh, my gosh. Yes. Crazy. Well, it's funny. So I was watching the game, and I felt, excuse me, but I fell asleep a little in the third quarter, and my husband's like, janae J. You don't understand. And at that point, I was like, oh, the Bills are done. I'm like, oh, this is great. At least that every AFC east team is going to go 04 for week one. Like, I'm like, all right, so that's going to be good for the Jets. Whatever.

[Mike Catalana]

Right.

[Janae Coakley]

So Scott's like, janae, you got to get up and watch this game. Like, the Bills are coming back. Like, Derek Henry just fumbled. I'm like, what? No. And then come to the fourth quarter, and then I fell back asleep, kind of, because I don't know what the score was at that. What was it at the end of the third.

[Mike Catalana]

Oh, the end of third. Well, they were down 15, so I'm trying to remember the exact score.

[Bart Scott]

Yeah.

[Janae Coakley]

So maybe he woke me at the beginning of fourth. That's what it was. I think he woke me up. He's like, you've got to watch this. And I kind of was. He's like, get up and watch this. This game. So I got up. I was like, oh, my God, they're gonna win this game.

[Bart Scott]

Yeah.

[Mike Catalana]

What the hell? It was wild.

[Janae Coakley]

Crazy.

[Mike Catalana]

So you fell asleep. So did the Ravens a little bit. Right at the end of that game.

[Janae Coakley]

That play call was a little suspected.

[Mike Catalana]

Yeah.

[Janae Coakley]

I felt like they're like, oh, we won this game. We're done. We're good.

[Mike Catalana]

Josh Allen had not had. Even though they had beaten the Ravens, had not had great games against the Ravens offensively. I mean, he beat him. Beat him in the playoffs and all. And so he decided he threw for 251 yards in the fourth quarter alone. So, I mean, that was. That was pretty good.

[Janae Coakley]

I think he pretty much was like, well, who's the mvp?

[Bart Scott]

Yeah.

[Mike Catalana]

And he went out and won. So my question to you is, if you're the jets, and I know it's early with a different group and everything, what would you say the game plan would be to knock off the Bills? What is their. If they said this is the way we want to do it, what do you think they would do?

[Janae Coakley]

I think pretty much the game plan they had against the Steelers, except can't make stupid mistakes. Run the ball. Run the ball and force the. The Bills to make mistakes. And that secondary, Josh Allen, you can't let him out. You can't let Josh Allen win the game. That's just it. You cannot let Josh Allen win the game. You got to contain him. And that D line has to. D line's got to get to him and razzle him and get to him early and often.

[Bart Scott]

Yeah, yeah, that would be the plan.

[Janae Coakley]

They can't make any mistakes because the Josh Allen. Those guys pound you. Bills pounce on mistakes.

[Mike Catalana]

Yeah, well, we'll see if that happens coming up on Sunday. It's always fun when the Bills and the jets get together and we'll see what we see.

[Janae Coakley]

Coming to. Sorry, my son's coming to the. His first ever football game on Sunday.

[Mike Catalana]

There it is. He's gonna get a chance to see the. The MVP of the league try to beat back the Jets. All right, tell people, because here we get sny. Let people know what they can see from your coverage of the Jets Thursday night.

[Janae Coakley]

Me and Bart Scott have a little show called Jets Game Plan. We break down the Jets Bills game every Thursday night at 6:30, then pre game, 11, 12 o' clock and then post game after the game.

[Mike Catalana]

That's why you're an Emmy nominee, right?

[Janae Coakley]

I am, thank you. Look at me throwing that in there. Right, but. So you got some Emmy nominal knees at your place too?

[Mike Catalana]

Yeah. Cottrell's up for an Emmy too, so look at this. You guys are crushing it. That's the way it goes. This is great. I will see you down at the game. We're looking forward to it. And as always, you are one of our favorite guests for the Buffalo plus YouTube channel. So we appreciate you coming on.

[Janae Coakley]

Studio looks great. Maybe one of these days I'll be able to get in that studio.

[Mike Catalana]

Wouldn't that be it? Come on down. Come on down. You're welcome anytime. All right. Janae Coakley from SNY covers the Jets. She has coverage, you heard, where you can hear all of her coverage leading up to the Jets. But we thank everybody for being with us and thank you, as always, for being part of the Buffalo Plus YouTube channel. We are in the Connors and Ferris Studio podcast coming up on Thursday. Make sure you come back with us. That'll do it for our entire team. For Dan and Jenna, I'm Mike Catalana. Thanks for watching Buffalo Plus. Please make sure to, like, comment and subscribe and we will see you the next time on Buffalo Pl.