Why the BILLS should GO get MYLES GARRETT

Summary

Buffalo Plus Podcast: "Why the BILLS should GO get MYLES GARRETT"

Date: February 4, 2025
Hosts: Mike Catalana (C), Jenna Cottrell (A), Dan Fetes (B)

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Overview

This episode dives deep into the developing saga surrounding star edge rusher Myles Garrett’s trade request from the Cleveland Browns—and why the Buffalo Bills should make a push to acquire him. The team dissects Garrett’s immediate and long-term value, potential trade packages, cap implications, and what his addition would mean for both the defense and total team outlook. The podcast is energetic, personable, and filled with insight, analogies, and plenty of camaraderie.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Should the Bills Pursue Myles Garrett?

Timestamps: [00:25]–[02:17]

• Myles Garrett’s Availability: News breaks that Garrett is seeking a trade and wants to play for a contending team, not as a contract ploy.
• Immediate Reaction:
  • Mike: “If it’s anything that’s not totally destructive to the team... Are you kidding me? Yes, you want this guy. ...if this is the player you get, you are taking a massive leap to what you want to do.” [00:50]
  • Dan: “He makes everybody else’s job around him easier…at a position of need that the Bills have spent time after time after time putting resources [into].” [01:37]
• Elite Resume:
  • 7 straight years of double-digit sacks, only 29 years old.
  • “Bonafide stud” at a position where the Bills have struggled to develop homegrown talent.

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2. The Trade Market and Cleveland’s Position

Timestamps: [03:01]–[04:55]

• Cleveland’s Dilemma:
  • Mike: “The Browns are lying when they say they have no plans to trade him. ...You need to rebuild that whole team. They have screwed it up in Cleveland.” [03:01]
• Edge Market: Other edge stars (Maxx Crosby, T.J. Watt, Micah Parsons) are mentioned as comparisons; being ‘first to the table’ is crucial.
• Only Contenders in Play:
  • Mike: “The real competition for the Bills are the good teams…who have a quarterback but will be willing to invest multiple picks.” [04:06]

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3. Trade Compensation: How Much Will it Take?

Timestamps: [09:24]–[14:08]

• What Will the Browns Get?
  • Likely package: Not the “three first round picks” the media touts, but a “one plus” (one first, plus additional assets).
  • Depth of the first round matters; the Bills’ late first is less valuable than others.
  • Mike: “[The Browns are] going to take a hit…dead cap…but you’re not inheriting a bad contract, you’re going to rework his contract.” [13:43–14:08]

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4. Contract & Cap Maneuvering

Timestamps: [14:08]–[24:19]

• Anticipated Deal: Four years, about $140 million per Spotrac estimates.
• Cap Flexibility:
  • Bills can restructure contracts—Josh Allen, James Cook mentioned—to make room.
  • Mike: “Beans [GM Brandon Beane] is very smart at being able to manipulate [the cap]. Howie [Roseman, Eagles GM] is the best at it.” [22:24]
  • Dan: “If you make a move for Myles Garrett, there are piggy banks you can go into.” [21:34]

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5. Roster and Team Construction Implications

Timestamps: [16:13]–[21:14]

• Defensive Ripple Effect:
  • “Myles Garrett fixes a lot of issues you would have in your secondary…He makes Ed Oliver better. He makes possibly Greg Rousseau better.” [17:02]
• Potential Impact on Rousseau: Discusses Rousseau’s contract and the benefit/hindrance of a fifth-year option if Garrett joins.
• Buffalo’s Build-For-Now Mindset:
  • Drawing parallels with past “big swing” moves (Von Miller, etc.).
  • Mike: “If you’re going for it, that’s what we’re talking about them doing.” [11:24]

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6. Edge Rusher vs. Wide Receiver?

Timestamps: [24:30]–[26:12]

• Which Is a Bigger Need?
  • Consensus: Edge rusher trumps No. 1 wide receiver for this Bills team.
  • “With Josh Allen as my quarterback…Pass rusher is like…if you just say here, it didn’t work. It didn’t work. This one’s going to work.” [24:39, 25:45]

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7. Myles Garrett’s Locker Room Fit and Desire to Win

Timestamps: [28:12]–[29:10]

• Motivation Beyond Money:
  • Mike: “He’s a made man. He wants a ring.” [29:06]
• Personality & Edge:
  • “Minus the fact that he tried to put Mason Rudolph’s helmet on...He has been a steady locker room presence.” [29:24]
  • “You want your defensive lineman to be this close to getting arrested.” [29:33]

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8. Fan/Team Considerations & Wrap Up

Timestamps: [30:07]–[31:31]

• Should Every Team Want Him?
  • Mike: “Is there an opinion that is I wouldn’t want Myles Garrett? I don’t think so, right? It’s just a matter of how much you have to give up…” [30:07]
• Bills as Favorites:
  • Odds-wise, Buffalo is listed as the favorite destination.
  • Comparing deals for OBJ, Von Miller—reminder that trades vs. free agent signings are very different.
• Fun Farewells:
  • Running joke about “[bona fide]” pronunciation wraps up as the hosts riff.
  • “Everybody loves picks till they’re players.” [27:38]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

“You want this guy. ...if this is the player you get, you are taking a massive leap to what you want to do.”
— Mike Catalana [00:50]

“He makes everybody else’s job around him easier and can help everybody next to him.”
— Jenna Cottrell [01:16]

“If you don’t think [Beane] is looking at this roster and going, ‘man, we need to get better defensive line,’ I don’t think he’d be gun shy, scared. Money don’t make money. Right, Jenna?”
— Dan Fetes [16:13]

“I always say: Everybody loves picks until they become players.”
— Dan Fetes [27:38]

“Beans good at [the cap]. ...You can look at Josh and say, ‘Hey, Josh, we’re gonna get you a pass rusher. We’re going to get you a guy that can win you a game on the other side and get after Patrick Mahomes.’”
— Jenna Cottrell [22:23]

“He is a made man. He wants a ring.”
— Mike Catalana [29:06]

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Segment Highlights (Timestamps)

• 0:25–2:17: Opening reactions and debate over “bona fide” pronunciation.
• 3:01–4:55: Browns’ hand is forced; trade market dynamics.
• 9:24–14:08: Possible compensation; cap realities; how trade might actually go down.
• 17:02–19:03: Home improvement and football analogies—how Garrett “makes the whole house better.”
• 21:34–24:19: Deeper dive on salary cap, restructuring contracts, and whether the Bills can really pull this off.
• 27:38–28:07: Dan’s “Everybody loves picks until they become players”—instant classic quote.
• 29:24–29:41: Locker room presence and the “right amount of crazy” for defensive line.
• 30:07–31:31: Willingness to pay, weigh priorities, Bills as betting favorites, outro banter.

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Tone and Style

• Energetic, witty, and honest: The trio blends hard analysis with playful ribbing (especially over words like "bona fide").
• Insider Touch: They make clear they’re well plugged-in; reference direct questions to Beane and beat knowledge.
• Analogy-Heavy: Home improvement, finance, golf, and betting idioms keep it lively.
• Buffalo-Centric: Every angle is run through the prism of the Bills’ needs and culture.

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Summary/Takeaway

The hosts are unified: If the Bills have any real shot at acquiring Myles Garrett, they must absolutely pursue him. He offers transformative value as a true “game wrecker,” and with Buffalo already in win-now mode, sacrificing picks and pushing cap boundaries make sense. The only real debate is how much you give up, not whether to try.

The only question left: How hard will Beane push to make “bona fide” history?

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Transcript

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[D]

Yeah, I mean, there's not a lot of Chris Jones is floating out there. Would I love to add one of those guys? Heck, yeah.

[A]

Well, Miles Garrett is now floating out.

[B]

There, and I am ready to get hurt again. All right. Welcome back to the Buffalo plus channel, presented by Connors and Ferris, Mike Catalana, Dan Fates. I am Jenna Cottrell. Please be sure to, like, comment, subscribe and share. And gentlemen, Miles Garrett requesting a trade. Do you want him in Buffalo? I'll start with you, Mike.

[C]

If it's anything that's not totally destructive to the team in terms of like, they want nine draft picks, they want this out of the other. Are you kidding me? Yes. You want this guy. They are not necessarily one player away from doing whatever they wanted, but if this is the player you get, you are taking a massive leap to what you want to do.

[A]

Yeah, I think we've all left the playoff games and left the last few seasons going. Bean's got to improve the defensive line. Miles Garrett at his level, at his position can fix a lot of your other flaws. And when you have a player that is that dominant, he makes everybody else's job around him easier and can help everybody next to him.

[B]

This was his seventh straight season of double digit sacks. 29 years old. And he said the reason that he wants to be traded is not because of a contract ploy to get more money. He wants to be on a team that wins. And I said it in the open, but ready to get hurt again. Like, I honestly feel like though 29 years old, I just. You see what the upside and what he could add. And you talked about how he makes everyone better and that would be exactly this. At a position of need that the Bills has spent time after time after time putting resources now would have a guy that is a bonafide stud.

[A]

Oh, it's bonafide. It's bonafide.

[B]

Bonafide.

[C]

Are we.

[A]

Yeah. No, no, no. If you guys hamper me on everything.

[B]

Oh, I. I didn't know that. Okay. Either way, Miles Garrett is a proving commodity.

[A]

Oh, we're just gonna let that slide.

[C]

I was gonna let it. I don't like to pick on little things.

[B]

I. I thought you could say it. It means in. It means in good faith. In Latin, which I didn't really realize, but I'm just kidding. Is it. Did I say it wrong?

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Oh, okay. My bad.

[A]

Just lets it slide.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

But she's bona fide.

[C]

She. Yes.

[B]

Maybe it's my New England accent. I say aunt, too.

[C]

Well, that's because, you know, you're more proper than we are.

[A]

My skin's crawling.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

All right.

[A]

Get back on task.

[C]

Let's get back on this and say. How do I put this with. First of all, the Browns are lying because they say, well, we have no plans to trade him. What are you holding on to him?

[B]

Correct.

[C]

Once he has said this, he wants to be traded. He's going to get. He's going to get traded. He's going to get paid where he goes. If you are the Browns, you have to trade him. You stank. You aren't getting any better. You need to rebuild that whole team. They have screwed it up in Cleveland. They need to rebuild it. He's 29. You can't wait a year or two or three. He won't be 30 until late December. It's just past Christmas. In terms of his age, this is the time to make the trade. And the other thing is, I say while they lie because. Not exactly sure why. You never know when something else pops up. Does Max Crosby become available? Does. Does the. Do the Raiders go. You know what? Crosby, you want to wait on this.

[A]

Hendrickson, T.J. watt.

[C]

Right.

[A]

There are five big names for edge rushers that could be moved and Micah Parsons adding into the mix as well.

[C]

Yeah. You never know what Dallas is going to do in that case as a younger player, too. But the idea is you want to be first to the table on this. You want everybody involved in it. But I would make the point, and I want to know what you guys think. I don't think everybody either will or should be involved in it. He's an awesome player, tremendous. Probably the best at his position in the NFL. But he's 29. He's going to cost you multiple draft picks, and it has to be a team that already has talent, including a quarterback, because you can't give up a bunch of ones or a couple of ones without them. So I think the competition, the real competition for the Bills are the good teams in the NFL, the really good ones who have a quarterback but will be willing to invest multiple picks in getting him.

[B]

I think two things. One, if I'm the Browns, I don't want to trade him in division. So that immediately eliminates both the Ravens as well as The Bengals. So there's that. That's my head. And then two, if you've been struggling to draft first round players that have been productive, just trade those picks.

[A]

Do you know a GM that has struggled at landing first round picks or, or top end picks for defensive line?

[B]

I. Yeah, I think there's a couple that come to mind.

[A]

So we got done talking to Brandon Bean last week. He also mentioned that the Bills are not one player away. He says if you ever have that mindset, it's a dangerous one to be in. Okay. If that's what he wants to tell us publicly now. I think he did kind of take one of those big swings with Von Miller a few years ago. Von was older. I think the Bills were at a different place at the time. Now, Von or Bean was also asked by Matt Perino, the Shout podcast, syracuseupstate.com and he was asked a lot about Chris Jones. Was asking Bean about Chris Jones because Bean mentioned time and time again how Chris Jones dominated that game. And he's a game changer. And we've talked about it on this channel. You need a game changer on defense. So Perino asked Bean if you need a guy like a Chris Jones to get over the hump. And this is what Dean had to say.

[D]

Yeah, I mean, there's not a lot of Chris Jones is floating out there. I get the question. Yes. But where do you, where do you land that? You know, I don't know many teams are going to hand you a Chris Jones or a game wrecker. They're probably, they're probably sewed up. You know what I mean? Like, you look around, there's not a lot of players that make 28 to 30 some million dollars a year, which I think is kind of what those high end defensive players are making. We're not ever picking in the top five 10. Like not to say you can never get those guys. Chris Jones actually fell to the second round and we'll turn over every stone we can to find them. But would I love to add one of those guys? Heck, yeah, I would. But we have a cap. We pick where we pick. You kind of. You got to make the best, you know, of what you got. And again, we would love to do that if that player is out there.

[A]

Well, things have changed.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And there is now a defensive end, the reigning defensive player of the year, who is now floating around.

[C]

Do you guys agree with me that the Browns have to trade him?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So. So there's a few things I was, I was looking up at. Obviously, Andrew Barry, the Browns gm, said at his season ending press conference they have no intention of trading him. You can put that on the record. He wants him to retire as a Brown. Now the. The thing that gets sticky and what I really respect about Miles Garrett is in his statement that he released, Barry made some comment about the fact that he, Garrett, wants to go from Cleveland to Canton. And in Garrett's statement, he said, I want to. I want to go from Cleveland to the Super Bowl. Yeah, that's a shot at your gm. So. So we already have discourse.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Now, like to your point, Mike, if you keep him around. Mike, discord.

[C]

Discourse is conversation.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

Sorry. Oh, Jenna, you pronounce bonafide wrong.

[B]

I always thought it was bonafide.

[C]

It is.

[A]

It's not.

[B]

You know what word? I said wrong and I thought it was proverb.

[C]

Really? You said it on the podcast.

[B]

No, no.

[A]

Well, now, yeah, there's a back on track as we take each other's jabs at one another. Um, he talked about his desire to win. He also has a no trade clause. That is good news for the Bills because he's not going to want to agree to get traded to a crappy team that will give more.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Than what the. Than like that the Browns. We can't pass up on this offer from the Cardinals. Yeah, that doesn't matter. Garrett can say, no, I'm not going to the Cardinals. That's good power for teams like your point, Mike, that are super bowl contending teams. That bodes well for the Bills. Did I say that right? Bodes well.

[C]

Absolutely.

[A]

Nailed it.

[C]

Right on the money.

[A]

So I think that's. That's good. Now again, what do you guys think the offer will be? Because you've made the point. We were talking about this before, like it's going to be a lot, but it never usually ends up being as much as the team or as some of the media will say, like three first round picks. It's not going to be three first round picks.

[C]

So let's make this easy example. Let's just say it's the Buffalo Bills in the mix and it is the. Who would be a good. I'm trying to think of a team. Chicago Bears. Okay. The Chicago Bears pick is in the bottom. They missed the playoffs. It's in the bottom half of the first round. So each one of their picks, bottom half, they didn't make the playoffs.

[A]

What is their correct.

[C]

14 teams that make the playoffs. So it's in the bottom 18. I don't know exactly where the Bears are and I'M just using them as an example of a team that might have something going. They got this. Maybe they want to make a move. That pick is worth more than the Bill's first round pick.

[A]

Absolutely.

[C]

So it could be for a team like the Bills. Hey, look. Look at what they have. They have their one, but they also have Minnesota's two and they have their own two.

[A]

I think they have two threes. Two twos and two threes. Right. The bills have.

[C]

Right. Two twos and two threeS. Right. So, but I'm saying is, in terms of when the Bills are trading, what are they picking? 29th.

[A]

No. Or eighth?

[C]

Maybe 30th. Depends.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, so a better record than the commander. So they'd be 30 in the draft.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So it's 30. I mean, it's almost a second round pick. If the New England Patriots were involved, they have what, the third pick and the 30 fit.

[A]

But that goes back to my point.

[C]

Of Miles Garrett can say, I don't want to go there.

[A]

I don't want to go there.

[C]

No.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I think it makes the Bills picks more valuable because there's only a few teams that I would consider that are in the mix as the super bowl contending teams that are in the market for paying a high end pass rusher, game changing, difference maker.

[C]

Yes. Because if you look at it with a team that is building, even like the commanders who has a quarter, you know, quarterback in their building, they got a lot of holes on that team and that kid propped them up. Now, would he help them? Absolutely. But are they willing to give up multiple ones when they're building up the team? I think the Bills have done a good job of building up good players. They're going for a great player. And if, if they're going for it, that's what we're talking about them doing. But yes, it makes a lot of sense for a team like the Bills.

[B]

It also makes a lot of sense maybe for a team like the Eagles, though.

[C]

Yeah. You know, it's funny because the Eagles have done both. They've drafted well, but they've also traded ones. When they got A.J. brown, they made that move and they've done it. If you look at their roster and hey, who knows how the super bowl goes?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

If the super bowl goes where they can't get the pressure they want because they let us on Reddit go and they've done pretty well there. But it's not a dominant player.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You could make an argument that that is the glaring hole on that team. To say we don't have this. And they seem to be able to make it work in a lot of ways now. I don't know if they'd be willing to give up that much. Maybe they would. I don't know if they would, but a team like that. I always think you made the point about the Ravens. I think the Ravens are one of those teams that always seems to bring in those veteran defensive players. But this ain't free agency.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You got to get the Browns to make the trade to you and see him twice a year.

[B]

So what would you think would be the price then?

[C]

I do think it does start at 2 number ones. I don't see any way around that.

[A]

I don't think it does. I think it's a one plus now.

[C]

If it's. That's the case.

[A]

I think it's a one plus.

[C]

And you. You saying spread those picks around a little bit. A 1 and a 2 this year, 1 and a 2 next year, 1.

[A]

And 2 and a 3 next year. Something like that. Like he is again, unbelievable player but whenever they, they come out and he's not a quarterback. So. So when they come out and say we want all these picks, it usually ends up being somewhere below that. Like it's when they talk about wide receivers. Oh first it's never usually there. So I think it's, I think spot track. I think had somebody thinking that could be like a one to three and a six. Oh, so like again you would, you'd run up to do that. Yeah.

[C]

Like now the Browns are going to want. Because they're taking a big hit. Cap.

[A]

They're. They're getting boned like, like dead cap. They're going to get hit with dead cap.

[C]

They've pushed that money down.

[A]

Correct.

[B]

They're getting bona fide.

[A]

No, but correctly said. Okay.

[B]

Sorry.

[C]

They. They're going to take that hit.

[A]

But it's a, it's not a crazy amount that the team that's accepting him is going to get. You're going to rework his contract. So you're not inheriting a bad contract. You're going to rework the contract to what you want it to be.

[C]

You want it to be. But you're giving them more too because you're my. It's probably a four year deal with a lot of guarantees in the.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

1:40 range.

[A]

Yeah. That's what Spottrack has guesstimating is a four year, $140 million contract.

[C]

Yeah. And Jenna made the point like his consistency at a mega high level. Is put it to you this way, when they got Vaughn now, Von had made plays in the Super Bowl. He had played well. He had been hurt two years before that. And his numbers were over that period of time as a older player, older than Vaughn or than Miles Gary is now. You know, eight and a half sacks, nine sacks, good numbers, a decent amount of pressures. This guy is 15, 16, 17.

[B]

I understand that move when the Bills made it for Vaughn, because also he was a leader. He had that super bowl caliber experience. And I do think where the team was at, it was nice to have someone that's kind of seen the mountaintop before, who has produced at the highest level, like that type of stuff.

[C]

I was just laughing, Dan, because I could have sworn right before that happened that Brandon Bean said they wouldn't make a big move.

[A]

Yeah, because I love that I tweeted out that answer that he had to Perino's question. And it's a long answer. It's about a minute and things of that. But all I took in the beginning was, you know, they're not floating around. And then in my tweet, I just said salary cap talk in between it and then being like, heck, yes. Like, heck, yeah, I'd want that guy. So it's like, I understand Beans added, once again, they're not going to be big spenders in free agency. They're going to have to do all these things. Like that is GM talk. That is. That is where Brandon Bean will give you a very big ounce of truth. And then he'll fill in some other things with some GM talk around it. But, like, if you don't think that he's looking at this roster and going, man, we need to get better defensive line. I don't think he'd be gun shy, scared. Money don't make money. Right, Jenna?

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

And so if you swung and miss, and like I said, Von was playing at the level, it is a freak injury to say he tears his ACL like that. That happens with older players, but you can't pencil that in to go, hey, we know this guy's probably going to tear into their ACL here. Mike, where we disagreed is I go getting a guy like Miles Garrett or a team that'd be interested in Miles Garrett. It's a luxury. Like you said, it's not a team that is looking for a quarterback because you can't risk that draft capital.

[C]

Yeah. You can't give up one.

[A]

Right. So I made the comparison to you. Going after Miles Garrett is like when the Eagles went after Barkley, in the sense of you've got a lot of other things filled.

[C]

Right.

[A]

You're good. And then you get this piece.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You may have to overpay a hair, like the Bills would have to, with draft capital on top of the signing.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

But the bonus here is. Or the extra that you'd have to give would be the draft capital. But Miles Garrett fixes a lot of issues that you would have in your secondary.

[B]

Yeah. And. And two, he has talked so much. Bean has about, like, you're never one piece away, and that is a dangerous mindset to have. I agree with that. But this is also a piece that you have been searching for for a long time.

[A]

Great point.

[C]

So Dan makes a lot of golf analogies or baseball analogies.

[A]

I do.

[C]

I'm going to do a home improvement analogy.

[A]

Hit me.

[C]

So we moved to a smaller house, my wife and I, and we were doing a lot of work, and it was expensive, and I was cranky. I was kind of a jerk about it. I didn't like some of the stuff. I opened my mouth up at the absolute wrong time with my wife.

[B]

You don't know how to whisper.

[C]

Yeah. And so I was. Because I was like, this isn't working. I had felt like I had made mistakes, and I couldn't fix them. But there was one way I could fix a lot of what was bothering me.

[A]

The bedroom and the basement.

[C]

The basement, yes. And I was like, do I want to spend this money? Do I want. And then I thought, wait a minute, we're going to get storage. We're going to get laundry. We're going to have a room where my daughters come to visit. We're going to have. And I'm like, I have a room. If I got a podcast, something. And I'm like, I can fix a lot of the things that I think we did wrong.

[A]

That's a good analogy.

[C]

Incorrectly. By doing this. And then all of a sudden, the contractor, who is super busy, goes, hey, if you want to do this, I got a little bit of time here. That's Myles Garrett.

[B]

That's the window opening.

[C]

It is the window opening. Miles Garrett sending out this thing, going, I want to be traded. And I thought, screw it, we're doing it now. And it. And it was done. And I am so happy that we did it because it sort of filled in all these. It made the whole house better.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Miles Garrett makes the whole house better.

[A]

Well, that's the thing, because you were talking about, you're going to need to maybe find another safety you may need to find a corner, things like that. I look at that secondary, I look at some of the run issues, I look at some of the things and I go, miles Garrett makes your secondary better because he's cutting off time to the quarterback so he can't sit there and drop back and pass. So you're not covering as long. It gives you more creativity. It makes Ed Oliver better. It makes possibly Greg was so better. Like, yes, like that. Because I think Greg Russo, for as much as we talked about extending him, he's going to hit the market at like 24, 25 years old. He's going to get an absurd amount of money. He just is. I, I think he's going to price himself out of Buffalo much like Tremaine did, because linebackers at that age, at that level of caliber are not always at free free agency at that age.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I think V or I think Greg is going to get a big number.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I think the Bills will go, ah, salary cap.

[C]

What do you think, though? I was curious what you think about Greg, because you could do the fifth year option on Greg Russo or you can go to him. Let's just say they made a deal for Miles Garrett and they may need to work the cap. It's an advantage to extend Greg Rousseau two years, right? Well, maybe more than that, but you spread that money out differently. The reason I say that is where does Greg Russo say I'm betting on myself? Sure, on the other side. That's where. But the. But the idea is that fifth year option is a bit of an albatross on a team because it's a high number, all guaranteed kind of a thing. It's almost like a franchise tag for that year. So that's the part I wonder. Like some players bet on themselves there and say, no, no, I take this fifth year and then I'm a free agent the next year. Not that they couldn't even franchise him, but I'm just wondering if you think Rousseau's the kind of guy that if he has an opportunity to bet on himself, he bets on himself.

[B]

I don't know if he is for being. I feel like I could see him betting on himself with the Bills under, like learning from Miles Garrett and all that types of stuff.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know. What do you think?

[A]

I think cash is king.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And, and, and I think.

[C]

Oh, I know. I'm not saying he doesn't want the cash. I'm saying is there is also sometimes a team comes to you and says, hey, instead you Know, we're on the fifth year option. We guarantee that. But we're going to extend you. We want to do it at this number. It's a really good number. Sure. But if you play it out and.

[B]

Do well, then you're like, what? I want more.

[C]

Yeah, you'll get a lot more.

[A]

Yeah. So I also think too, you know, being saying they're not going to be big spenders in free agency, that's fine. But if you make a move for Miles Garrett, like there are piggy banks that you can go into and restructure Josh's deal and restructure a James Cook deal, like and. And free up money now to pay Garrett and then worry about that stuff down the road. Like it's a little bit of that Saric cap of kicking the can down the road.

[C]

You. You need the guys that have that, you know are going to be around.

[A]

Josh Allen.

[C]

Yes. He's the one at Oliver. Yeah, you could do. Yes. It depends on where they are. Yes. I say, you know, I'm trying to think on the O line, but because there's people like James Cook, you're going to want to extend.

[B]

Correct.

[C]

So there are. I mean, there are certainly ways around that.

[A]

Bean's good at it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like Bean is. Bean is one of. I would say this too. For as much as he thinks Dan is wrong about the salary cap and he said, you call me an idiot. I can't remember.

[C]

No, I don't think he said idiot. I think we said that maybe.

[B]

No, he said if you don't. Didn't he say if you don't believe in the salary cap, you're.

[C]

Then he held up. Oh, that's what he said. Yeah. Then he held up the. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

We've had conversations like that. But the fact of he is very smart at being able to manipulate it. The. The Howie is the best at it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

How he's the best.

[C]

Like the fact that scares should be scary if they 100% miles because the.

[A]

Eagles have the highest paid player in the top five of every single position. The salary cap is not real to the Philadelphia Eagles. It just isn't so frame it says, oh, is that can make it work. And I'm saying is that you can look at Josh and say, hey, Josh, we're going to get you a pass rusher. We're going to get you a guy that can win you a game on the other side and get after Patrick Mahomes.

[C]

It is funny a lot of times.

[A]

We'Re going to restructure your deal. We'll give you. We'll give you X amount up front. We're going to work some things out.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

It is funny that he was asked about Josh's contract.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

And I agree. You know, I think I remember when he came to talk to us and I asked him about, how do you deal with Josh's contract? Is it constant communication? And he said at the time, like, I don't sit there and talk to his agent all the time. He and Josh have a great relationship. Josh Allen is never going anywhere. I don't. I shouldn't say never. You never know what ends up happening. He is in a great spot with the Bills. It's funny when people say, when he want to leave, I'm like, he is. Is he going to Kansas City? Like, he is that close to getting where he wants to go. But the idea is constant communication with Josh. Like, if there is a point where Josh and his agent are like, hey, fellas, like, where's mine? And this is when. Time to do it, that's when the Bills are going to have to be ready to do that.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Because you're going to want to do that. But you can use this time to create the space that you need to bring in a player like that.

[B]

Do you think it's more impactful and important for the Bills to get a edge rusher this season or a wide receiver one.

[C]

I say edge rusher. I think with Josh Allen as my quarterback.

[A]

I agree.

[C]

I agree that Collins.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Deep threat.

[A]

That's exactly what. That's exactly what went through my head.

[B]

Yeah, I'm thinking, too. It's hard to get so close. Shakir was really good this year for them. Matt Collins was really good for them this year. I would say Dawson Knox was good for them this year.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I feel like it's hard to get less production.

[C]

From some of the other guys.

[B]

Yeah. Like those guys had.

[A]

You bet on Keon, you bet on Dalton coming back.

[B]

I don't know if I like those bets, but I'm saying they were.

[C]

They were not.

[B]

They were not impactful this year. So it's like. And. And they were.

[A]

Could they be any less impactful?

[B]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

[A]

You restructure Curtis's deal a little bit?

[C]

Yeah, they might. And. And he showed flashes. Like, I'm not saying Curtis Samuel is your deep threat now, but I'm saying is if I. If I have to choose and I don't even know who the. Like, let's just say they could get DK meth. Right. Say. Say Seattle. I'm just picking a player who's been around.

[B]

You don't love him, though.

[C]

Nobody. I'm just. I'm picking a player who has been a deep threat. Yeah. And he's got. Gotten down the field and he's made plays. That would be great. Like, I would take that kind of player on this wide receiver group. But I think to your point, you. Both your points. The pass rusher is like. It's almost like. It's like you just say here, it didn't work. It didn't work. This one's going to work.

[B]

This is for the basement.

[C]

It is for the basement. That's kind of where I'm like, I got to fix what's not fixed. This isn't like. I hope it is. He would be fantastic for the Bills, barring injury, which you have to think about with every player. Yeah, he would be great because he's been great with a lousy Browns team.

[A]

Yep. And so, again, I think he makes your secondary better. I think he makes. He is a defensive game wrecker.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He is a guy that you.

[C]

He's.

[A]

He's. He's a Chris Jones.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Where you sit there and you go, hey, how are we going to handle Myles Garrett in Buffalo?

[C]

I think he's better than Chris Jones.

[B]

Yeah. I think that's fair to say.

[C]

Chris Jones is really, really good. We have seen him in big moments. We've never really gotten to see Miles.

[B]

Garrett in really big moments.

[C]

The Browns don't have big moments. They've been in the playoffs. They got there with Joe Flacco.

[A]

You breaking shit?

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

But, yeah, they got there with Flacco.

[B]

Flacco. What did we say after the season ended? They need a weapon on offense and they need a weapon on defense.

[C]

Yeah, well, that's.

[B]

And a weapon on offense.

[C]

I think this is a bazooka on defense. Like, this is like. And listen, if you could draft a Jared Verse who looks really good as a rookie, and you get him on that rookie deal and you have him that way.

[A]

He hasn't.

[C]

He hasn't. But at the same time, it's still as good as he is, you would want that history. If you had that guy, you would not be going after Miles Garrett.

[A]

I've always said it before. Everybody loves picks until they become players. So to sit there and go, well, really good.

[C]

Is that your line? Yeah, that's really good.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, that was me.

[C]

I love that. That is.

[A]

That was me.

[B]

Okay. Okay. All right.

[A]

The coaches set the floor. The players at the ceiling that was not me. That was another good one.

[C]

Yeah, that is good. But the. Everybody loves picks till their players is really good.

[B]

It's a bar.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Is that a new shirt?

[C]

Can we get a shirt for that?

[B]

Does it say, I like that? Yeah.

[C]

All right.

[B]

Anything else?

[A]

Do it.

[C]

Well, we're doing this.

[A]

Do it.

[C]

Okay, so what has to happen here? The Bills have to say they're interested the Browns and, like, they are going to trade.

[A]

The Browns are screwed by the fact that Miles comes out because you're a bad team. You could use the assets that you would get back in return to rebuild. And the fact that it is now out there in the open and the no trade clause that Garrett has, they are in a very, very bad spot.

[C]

And, Jenna, the other part of this that works in the bill's favor and him going is I absolutely think the Browns would pay him an extension if he wanted the extension, which I think he does. Meaning, like, I don't think it's like the Browns don't want to pay me. Like, he's been that guy that they want to keep.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So when I say it's not about money, it's not like Miles Garrett is sitting there going. Going to force the Browns to give me this extension.

[B]

He's made a lot of money. Money Will.

[C]

And he's going to get it from the next.

[B]

Exactly. Money is important, but he's a made man. He wants a ring.

[C]

Yeah. And he. And he will get. He'll get it, but it's. That's what I'm saying is he really does want. He's probably thinking, I've put a lot of snaps in. In this league. I need a chance to go and play at the highest level.

[A]

And minus the fact that he tried to. To put Mason Rudolph's helmet on. He has been a. I mean, he has been Steady locker room presence.

[C]

I kind of wouldn't mind a little some of that on defense. What did I say? I had a coach say to me once, you want your defensive lineman to be this close to getting arrested?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. Well, yeah, but it's. It's.

[A]

You know, there are other ones that we have.

[C]

It's kind of like the.

[A]

That Carl told us that were great.

[C]

Yeah. You. You know, it's kind of like you want your hockey team to be the. Oh, no, that's Saber. They don't. They're too nice. They don't want to bother anybody.

[B]

Oh, okay. All right. Please be sure to, like, comment, subscribe and share. We want to hear in the chat what you're thinking about this, what you think it would cost, your initial thoughts, all that great stuff.

[C]

Is there is there an opinion that is I wouldn't want Miles Garrett. I don't think so. Right. It's just a matter of how much you have to give up what you disrupt the that's the part like I, I assume everybody would say if they just dropped him on your roster, you would love to have him. But there is some nuance to it of where you prioritize what you do, what you don't do. That's what I want to hear from people. The assumption is he's a great player, he's the best at his position, every team would want him. But there is a cost to it.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

And a putting priorities in place.

[A]

And the other reason we did this video is that the Bills are right now on Bavado, the favorite to land Miles Garrett. They are the favorite, it feels like to land every single free agent.

[C]

Like it feels like they're they're always the top of these kind of things. And yeah.

[A]

Yeah. They didn't get obj oh, yeah.

[C]

Well, that was.

[A]

They got Von.

[C]

Yes, they did swing again. Were they the favorite get V. I don't think people.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

I can't remember. Honestly.

[C]

Boy, it's just such a huge difference when it's a free agent.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Because then it just becomes he wants you, then done. You sign him.

[B]

Yeah. No, it's true.

[C]

It's going to take something.

[B]

All right. Please be sure to like, comment, subscribe and share. We always appreciate that. For my Catalana and Dan Fates, I am Jenna Cot. Thank you so much for watching the Buffalo Plus Channel, presented by Connors and Ferris. We'll catch you next time. Here.

[C]

Bonafide.

[B]

Bonafide. I really thought it was bonafide.

[A]

It's not.