Accused Human Trafficker Andrew Tate Allowed Back In The US After Sucking Up To Trump

Summary

Bulwark Takes: Accused Human Trafficker Andrew Tate Allowed Back In The US After Sucking Up To Trump

Release Date: February 27, 2025

Introduction

In the February 27, 2025, episode of Bulwark Takes, hosts Tim Miller and JVL delve into the contentious return of Andrew and Tristan Tate to the United States. Following their charges of human trafficking in Romania, the brothers' re-entry into the US has sparked intense debate, particularly regarding their affiliations and the political maneuvering that facilitated their return.

Background on Andrew and Tristan Tate

Andrew and Tristan Tate, known influencers and self-proclaimed "brothers of influence," have been at the center of multiple legal controversies. In June 2023, Romanian prosecutors indicted them on charges of forming an organized criminal group involved in human trafficking across Romania, the UK, and the US. The allegations include misleading women into false relationships, coercing them into appearing in pornographic videos, and instances of rape, including involving underage minors.

Allegations and Indictment Details

Tim Miller provides an overview of the indictment, highlighting the gravity of the accusations:

“In June 2023, prosecutors in Romania accused Tate and his brother of two Roman and two Romanian women forming an organized criminal group and trafficking women across Romania, Britain, and the U.S. Some American women were included” (02:10).

The indictment outlines that seven women came forward, alleging that the Tate brothers misled them into believing in genuine relationships only to exploit them for illicit purposes.

Andrew Tate's Misogynistic Views

A significant portion of the discussion centers on Andrew Tate's openly misogynistic statements, which Tim Miller cites to underscore his troubling worldview:

“If a woman accuses a man of cheating, there's one appropriate response. It's bang out the machete, boom, in her face. You grip her up by the neck. What's up, bitch? You go fuck her” (03:58).

These statements not only reflect Tate's personal beliefs but also potentially influence his followers, fostering a culture of violence and misogyny.

Political Maneuvering and Trump's Influence

The episode scrutinizes the political dynamics that allowed the Tate brothers to circumvent a travel ban. Tim Miller suggests that Andrew Tate's vocal support for former President Donald Trump played a pivotal role:

“The government prioritized making sure he was able to travel in spite of the allegations” (00:30).

This prioritization raises questions about the interplay between political allegiance and legal accountability.

Conspiracy Theories and MAGA Coalition Dynamics

JVL engages in a critical analysis of the broader implications of the Tate brothers' situation, linking it to conspiracy theories prevalent among certain Trump supporters. He reflects:

“I just question. I feel like I remember a time when the idea of there being secret human trafficking organizations was deeply important to the conspiracy-minded Trumpist” (01:18).

The hosts discuss the uneasy alliance within the MAGA coalition, juxtaposing Andrew Tate's incel-driven ideology with figures like Mike Johnson, who advocate for traditional family values. They explore the paradox of supporting individuals who ostensibly align with their anti-establishment sentiments while harboring fundamentally conflicting values.

Cultural Impact and Responsibility

Tim Miller emphasizes the cultural ramifications of Tate's return, arguing that figures like him negatively influence young men:

“This guy, I mean, he is a cancer on the culture, and he is infecting the minds of teen boys” (07:28).

He calls for greater accountability within Republican circles, questioning why there are no prominent voices condemning Tate's behavior and ideology.

Hypocrisy Within the Political Establishment

The conversation highlights the perceived hypocrisy among Republicans who publicly advocate for the protection of American values yet privately support individuals accused of egregious misconduct:

“It's like the Catholics. JBL. It's like the MAGA Catholics. You just got to go into church as long as you ask forgiveness” (05:42).

This analogy underscores the tension between professed moral standards and actual political alliances.

Conclusion

The episode concludes with a stark warning about the implications of Andrew and Tristan Tate's return to the US. Tim Miller's closing remarks encapsulate the episode's central concern:

“Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate are back in America, and so hide your daughters” (11:22).

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Tim Miller (02:10): “In June 2023, prosecutors in Romania accused Tate and his brother of two Roman and two Romanian women forming an organized criminal group and trafficking women across Romania, Britain, and the U.S. Some American women were included.”

• Andrew Tate (03:58): “If a woman accuses a man of cheating, there's one appropriate response. It's bang out the machete, boom, in her face. You grip her up by the neck. What's up, bitch? You go fuck her.”

• Tim Miller (00:30): “The government prioritized making sure he was able to travel in spite of the allegations.”

• JVL (01:18): “I just question. I feel like I remember a time when the idea of there being secret human trafficking organizations was deeply important to the conspiracy-minded Trumpist.”

• Tim Miller (07:28): “This guy, I mean, he is a cancer on the culture, and he is infecting the minds of teen boys.”

Final Thoughts

Bulwark Takes provides a critical examination of the Andrew Tate saga, intertwining legal allegations with broader political and cultural implications. The hosts advocate for greater accountability and responsibility within political factions, highlighting the dangers posed by influential figures who propagate harmful ideologies.

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Timestamp References:

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• 01:18
• 02:10
• 03:58
• 05:42
• 07:28
• 11:22

Transcript

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[Tim Miller]

It'S Tim Miller from the Bulwark here with my buddy jvl. We have some breaking news this morning. Thursday morning, the influencer brothers Andrew and Tristan Tate who've been charged with human trafficking in Romania have left for the United States after a travel ban on them was lifted. A few who knows times of flat circle right now. A week, a few days ago we did a video talking about how there were negotiations between the US And Romania. I guess this was a priority for them because Tate was a supporter of of Trump's vocal support of Trump's and so the government prioritized making sure he was able to travel in spite of the allegations. I want to get into the allegations but jbl, you've had any top line or thoughts on this priority?

[JVL]

I just question. I feel like I remember a time when the idea of there being secret human trafficking organizations was deeply important to the conspiracy minded Trumpist. Right. The QAnon types and I mean at some point I guess it stops being shocking that every allegation is a confession. But I don't know, like they seem to be willing to go to the mattresses for a guy who allegedly did real deal secret human trafficking.

[Tim Miller]

Yeah. Fake lib trafficking, big problem, you know, right.

[JVL]

Frazzle drip. People will kill for to fight frazzle drip. But somebody who is actually allegedly in the real world doing the actual thing, bring him home, he's one of us.

[Tim Miller]

Yeah. You know, I mean it's like who knows, maybe where's my Andrew Tatel moved to America. Open up a pizza shop and do the trafficking in the basement of his pizza shop and we'll have a real life example of the thing that Mago so mad about. Let me actually go through the indictment here. We haven't actually seen the indictment, but what reporting has been about it. In June 2023, prosecutors in Romania accused Tate and his brother of two Roman and two Romanian women forming an organized criminal group and trafficking women across Romania, Britain and the U.S. some American women included. According to court documents, investigators identified seven women who said that the brothers had misled them into believing they wanted a relationship with them. The women were instead housed in a compound near Bucharest and forced to appear in pornographic videos that were shared online. Rape against Tate is another one of the allegations. I think underage minor women are also included as another one of the allegations. Here's something that's not an allegation. Tate is a unapologetic misogynist. And I want to read one of the more intriguing quotes. I think that sums up his worldview. This was on his TikTok account and he said that if a woman accuses a man of cheating, there's one appropriate response. It's bang out the machete, boom, in her face. You grip her up by the neck. What's up, bitch? You go fuck her. That's how it goes. You go slap, slap, grab, choke. Shut up, bitch. Sex. So, you know, I mean, he certainly has indicated in his public statements that his worldview is aligned with some of the things that are happening in the Bucharest sex hospital.

[JVL]

Tim, you know I take Andrew Tate seriously, but not literally.

[Tim Miller]

Yeah, Just a little locker room talk.

[JVL]

Oh, just a little locker room talk. I mean, this is important to understand that all of these allegations which have not been proven in a court of law, they aren't the first sets of allegations against Andrew Tate for doing bad, potentially illegal or just incredibly shady stuff. There was an alleged pyramid scheme, there was an alleged sexual assault case in England. Like his entire life has just been bottom feeding versions of like, Trump University. So imagine Trump University without the class, right?

[Tim Miller]

It's Trump University on top of like sexual. And it's. If you combine Trump University and the. And the Billy Bush tape. The Trump Billy Bush tape. And then you took.

[JVL]

But none of it is classy.

[Tim Miller]

Yeah, the last classy part.

[JVL]

Right, but not classy. This is the dirtbag version.

[Tim Miller]

The dirtbag version of that, yeah. One other thing worth mentioning. Leaked chats from Tate's war room in 2023 showed how subscribers are taught to manage women and in some cases groom them for online sex work. So again, like, grooming, very bad. Allegedly. In the maga, Right? That's an accusation that they. What?

[JVL]

What do you think, Q? What do you think Q thinks of this? Because Q used to be very concerned about women being groomed for bisexual predators. Will there. Will we get a drop about Andrew Tate?

[Tim Miller]

I don't think we will. And this is the thing, because he put on the red hat and this is all it like you get total.

[JVL]

Ding, ding, ding.

[Tim Miller]

Yeah. You know, it's like. It's like the Catholics. JBL. It's like the MAGA Catholics. You just got to go in to church as long as you ask forgiveness. You know, you go to confession, you do your ten Hail Marys, but in this case, you just got to put on the red hat and a creepy huckster, you know, can, can do the sign of the. I guess it wouldn't be the sign of the cross.

[JVL]

You don't tend to be repentance. Right. You've got a.

[Tim Miller]

That's true.

[JVL]

That's the, the key difference here is that instead of repenting, you do the crotch chop. Be like, suck it, losers. And I'm sorry.

[Tim Miller]

I'm sorry. As the lapsed Catholic. Yeah. I apologize to the continued Catholics. That is true. Very, very key difference there of the repentance is missing.

[JVL]

Tim. I, I heard, I don't, but I don't even remember where but once I heard some Republican politician worrying about importing criminals to America. Is that no longer a concern?

[Tim Miller]

Again, as long as they're MAGA criminals. Oh. Oh, that's fine.

[JVL]

Oh, right, right.

[Tim Miller]

We just can't, you know, we just can't import any criminals that don't like Donald Trump or, you know, that might vote for a Democrat sometimes. Like, we cannot do that. But we can import MAGA criminals, sex traffickers, people accused of sexual assault. And it is I look. And we can make fun of their like absurd hypocrisy and how pathetic and shameful it is and also just how like unbelievably, you know, misaligned. The priorities are like that this is something that just because you want to appease the incels who are your biggest supporters online who are tweeting at you.

[JVL]

Who'S clamoring for this. It's not like, you know, there was 25% of his coalition which was demanding that he. This is just a gratuitous. We're doing it because we want to.

[Tim Miller]

We want to because there's like a handful of incel weirdos that populate the administration and you know, the reply feed of Trump's bleeds and like that's who we're gonna appeal to. And it's total fan service to this tiny, freakish element of the fan base. There's this in vogue thing happening among those of us on the center left or, you know, whatever the anti Trump movement to talk about how men move towards Trump and how Democrats need to take this more seriously. Right. And I like and how. And there's this crisis of men and Democrats need to talk to young men and, and yet when A situation like this arises, there's no responsibility. Like, where are the. Like, there's no Republicans that are being responsible here saying, like, oh, we are communicating with young men and we need to have a responsible message that this kind of behavior, the slap a bitch, you know, like, fake alpha male abuse of women is not how you treat. This is not how you act as a man, as a real man. And like, and that is serious. Like, this guy, I mean, he is a cancer on the, on the culture, and he is infecting the minds of teen boys. You have a teenage son. Like, I mean, is there nobody that will stand up in the Trump administration or among Republicans on the Hill and say, this is bad?

[JVL]

Of course not.

[Tim Miller]

Of course there is no bad. It's not just that. It's one bad guy. And I mean, God loved the seven women who got screwed over, and he should be held accountable for that, assuming that in a court of law. But, like, culture wide, this is really bad.

[JVL]

The tension, which I just don't understand how it works or how it's sustainable, is that this coalition is made up of Andrew Tate Incels and Mike Johnson, who. Who is an Internet porn watch buddy with his own son, where they check each other's browser history to make sure they're not looking at the swimsuit issue.

[Tim Miller]

Yeah.

[JVL]

And I don't understand how those two groups hold hands.

[Tim Miller]

Well, I mean, they are. Johnson, which is wishes secretly that he could be Andrew Tate, I think is the.

[JVL]

Does he.

[Tim Miller]

And that's his. The Devil inside. Yeah, I think so. Right.

[JVL]

I don't. I don't think so. I mean, the short answer is because they hate the same people. But do they really hate this? I mean, don't they hate each other too? Like Andrew Tate.

[Tim Miller]

Andrew Tate hates women, mostly.

[JVL]

Andrew Tate hates women. And if you talk to Andrew Tate about, like, hey, Mr. Tate, what do you think about the idea? I'm a father. I think that. I think pornography is quite bad. And my. I'm. My son and I have a pact where we watch each other's browser history to make sure we don't see any naughty pictures. But what do you think of this, Mr. Tate? Like, Andrew Tate would just go wilding on his ass, Right? I mean, Andrew Tate would not have any. Well, you know, different cultures have different modes of operation and respect. And I understand why Speaker Johnson, or.

[Tim Miller]

Like, let's say that Mike Johnson's son, the Covenant Eyes son, comes home from school one day and he's like, dad, here's my new buddy. It's Tristan Tate, you know, it's like the Tristan Tate of Shreveport High.

[JVL]

I'm one of his G's.

[Tim Miller]

Yeah, the pickup artist guy. And, I mean, Mike Johnson would lose his mind. Like, he would send his dad, it's.

[JVL]

All right if I run some cam whores out of the spare bedroom? Is that okay, dad?

[Tim Miller]

And rightly, he would lose his mind. Right, Right. And so he would never allow this into his home. But not to be corny, but, like, we are now not only allowing, but inviting this into our home. Our home.

[JVL]

And Andrew Tate would never break bread with him because Andrew Tate would think they were the biggest pussies in the world. We can say that now, by the way. Right. I mean, and so this is the. These are. These are two groups who not only. Not only do they naturally like, not mix, but actively hate one another and want to exterminate each other from the earth, and yet they're on the same. It is like having both, you know, people who are super worried about genocide, Joe and Gaza, and people who are super Netanyahu. Netanyahu super fans, both voting for Trump. Yeah, it's that. That's what this is. And. But at bigger scale, these are larger groups, and I don't understand how it works. And maybe the answer is it only works for Trump because there's some secret sauce or there's. There's something in a black box in Trump as a political commodity that holds this stuff together that, like, you know, J.D. vance would not be able to, or maybe not. I don't know.

[Tim Miller]

Yeah, I mean, it's. I mean, Marco, you would think has some involvement here, and you'd put him on the Mike Johnson side of this, and he's tweeting out Bible verses and whatnot. He's the Secretary of State. You'd think he'd have something to say about someone that is anathema to everything.

[JVL]

Well, you know, his mouth is pretty full. It's hard for him to get a word out with all these tricks.

[Tim Miller]

All right, I think that's a good place to leave it. Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate are back in America, and so hide your daughters. I guess we'll leave it there. Subscribe to the feed. I'll be back later today with some more political stuff, and we'll be seeing you soon.