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Hey, everybody. Tim O from the Bulwark here. I don't know about you, but if you're like me and you saw the images from the Trump state dinner with MBS and the American oligarchy, you were hunched over the toilet dry heaving this morning. And it's not just because I had a couple drinks after the Kamala Harris interview last night. It was just the noxious view of these botoxed billionaire freaks sucking up to a foreign dictator that had a journalist bone sawed and chopped into pieces. Like, I just, I will never understand the mind of the billionaire that they feel like they need this. Okay, like, that these people don't. Do not go to nice enough parties already. I want to go down the list of people who are there. The things that, that caught my attention. In particular, the selfie from Mark Benioff, the Salesforce CEO with, with Pam Bondi. I found that pretty, pretty gross. The various selfies with Cristiano Ronaldo, the soccer player, with Elon and David Ball sacks, and all these other horrible people, you know, who have been complicit in, I don't know, you know, the deaths of unknown people worldwide through the cutting of USAID or the transfer of Venezuelan asylees to a foreign concentration camp. You know, people who are complicit in all that doing, hey, I'm doing a selfie with a soccer player. So great. Anyway, I want to run through the list because it's truly, it's like I just, I cannot be more clear. And like, even setting aside my Trump derangement syndrome, like, if Joe Biden had had a state dinner with MBS and I'd received a call from the White House and was like, tim, big fan of the podcast. You know, there's some, there's some Fox Media people at this Trump dinner. There was, there was. Who was there? Brett Baer, Maria Bartiromo. We want you to be in the Bartiromo slot. Okay, Tim, the Democrats are back in. It's going to be mbs. We're going to be doing this. It's going to be great. You put on a tuxedo. Cnbc, you bring your husband. He can bring a plus one. Like, I would literally have been like, is this a. Is this a prank call? This is a prank call. I would have laughed in their face like, no, I'm not going to go to a fucking state dinner with mbs. I don't. What. I don't even. I don't really like fancy dinners that much anyway. I guess it would be nice. And if The White House. If a non Trump White House wanted to invite me to a state dinner with a leader from a liberal democracy who, you know, does not have blood on their hands, who did not, you know, orchestrate a worldwide manhunt for political foes and have them chopped up and left in a box, like, would I go if it was just, I don't know, the new neoliberal gay prime minister of the Netherlands, like, sure, I'd go, yeah, that'd be great. And I might do a selfie or two, but for ambience. So I just like, why do these people get invited to way better parties than I do? Why? Why do they want to go to this? For starters? We have some theories on the back end, but just want to go through the names here. Mark Benioff, Salesforce CEO, Michael Dell, Dell Technologies. Congrats to him. Elon obviously was there. Jensen Huang, the Nvidia CEO. I think he's got some business deals to talk about. Lisa Sue. There was one woman that got invited. Congratulations to Lisa. Only female executive in attendance, obviously. I mean, if you're a female executive and you get invited to go have dinner with a despot who cracks down on women's rights in their country, no choice but to do that. The OpenAI CEO Greg Brockman was there. Tim Apple. Tim Apple was there. Fresh off the trophy that he gave to Donald Trump back at the White House again, the Palantir CEO. Okay, that makes sense. The Cisco CEO is there. Chuck Robbins, because Cisco is trying to get into the AI game. Bunch of other folks. Any of these worth mentions? Obviously some crypto guys are there. I understand why the crypto guys go. I mean they have dudes that participate in be handings and illicit deals all over their platforms. So like the Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong. Totally understand why he would go. And MBS is probably a big user of the platform, so it's very, it's very easy for you know, transfer of, you know, funds, web funds for weapons deals or whatever. So it makes sense the crypto guys are there. So they're there. Let's see. Oh, it's not just the tech and crypto guys though. We got the financial elite. Also showed up. Stephen Schwartzman, Blackstone. Congratulations. Mary Barra, gm. So okay, well there's a second. Excuse me, excuse me. Apologies for that note earlier. There were two female executives. Mary Barra also was there to honor the leader of a country that is deeply oppressive to women's rights. William Clay, Ford Ford Motor Company, Chevron there. I mean, just who knows who knows Pfizer Pharma Co. Is going to be there too. Albert Bourla Albert Bourboula. I don't know how to say his name. Albert Bourla the Pfizer CEO Bill Ackman made it hard to see how he is at times with all the tweeting he's doing. It goes on and on. Josh Harris, Owner of the Washington Commanders He's a big Democratic donor back also owner as a Philly sports team. So I guess he's switched sides as well now that the Washington Commanders need a new stadium in town and Mr. Trump wants him to name it after him. So that's the group. That's what you've got there. I think that part of this is just our elites are deeply depraved and we are kind of out of an era where virtue signaling was important in corporate America and now we're to an era where vice signaling is important. So I think that's part of it.
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Then there's also just money. The Saudi Here's a new story from Semaphore out yesterday. Saudi set to announce slew of AI Deals with US Firms terms. Saudi Arabia's sovereign wealth fund is set to announce slew of new deals as the country looks to pour billions of dollars into a plan to become the world's third largest country for AI. That's definitely what we want, and I think that's definitely in our national interest, which is to have a Middle Eastern country that is a dictatorship. It's a kingdom that has Sharia law and was complicit at some level in a terrorist attack on our country, what, 20 years ago now, almost 25 years ago. We're all getting old. So we want a country that was housing the terrorists that attack our country, that does Sharia law, doesn't care about women's rights, is a dictatorship. We want them to be the third largest, you know, power player when it comes to artificial super intelligence. Couldn't possibly imagine how that could go wrong. I just, I definitely. I think that's great that we've decided that these guys are such close allies now, the Saudis, that we want to do these two big deals with them where Amazon, AMD Xai, Global AI, et cetera, just kind of collaborate on data centers with Saudi and that we sell these advanced AI chips to the Saudis because our creaky economy is being propped up by these AI data centers. That's totally not a bubble, by the way. To me, I understand why the companies, some of these companies would want to do that and they got to care about investor value. I don't know why a government that is America first, that is focused on protecting Americans, that has our national security interests at heart, would feel like this kind of just unfettered trade of these extremely powerful chips. We don't know the extent of their power yet. With a country that's like a soft ally, let's call it, not exactly a country that shares a lot of our values. I mean, they might show Trump values, but doesn't share the fundamental, classically liberal American values values of our founding. So there's some limitations in our allyship when their country is actually an affront to those values in many ways that maybe we should think a little bit differently about these chips, these advanced AI chips, and the extent to which we want to intermingle something that is going to be so central to our economic growth, so central to our future security and safety. Do we want to intermingle it that closely with the Saudis? I don't know. Maybe there's a keep your friends closer, keep your enemies closer type situation, but I don't think this is happening. Here, I think this is just a gold rush. And everybody has decided to put any sort of moral compunction or practical concerns to the side. And they've decided that what they want to do is put on tuxedos, sidle up to a murderous dictator so that we can take some of his oil money to prop up our economy. That's what's happened. That's what these elites have decided to do. I think that whether it's from within the Republican Party or from within the Democratic Party or an independent billionaire that wants to shake up the political system, I think that running against these noxious, horrible people is something that I would support and that I think would have a lot of support within the country. Because this morally vacuous, illiberal, Great Gatsby Botox selfie culture and the new Grand Trump Ballroom, where the worst dictators in the world buddy up with the Silicon Valley oligarchs and the AI elite and the crypto bros. I just, I think that's. I think that the country is going to turn sour on that very fast. And I would, I would recommend running against it because let me tell you, I'm fucking sour on it already. These people make me sick. So in case you had missed the pictures from the state dinner, honorary state dinner with Mohammed bin Salman, the murderer. And also possibly. I'm not reporting this, by the way, don't know this. Just what we're hearing in the street. So it's allegedly. Don't want to be sued. We don't know this, but he might be a hermaphrodite and also a murderer. It was quite a dinner. Hope you saw the pictures. If you didn't, you're welcome. I hope they made you as sick as they made me. Everybody subscribe to the feed comment below. We'll be keeping you posted on everything else that's happening in Gatsby, Washington. I'm here in Washington for another day and we'll be talking to you again soon.
Date: November 20, 2025
Host: Tim Miller (“Tim O”)
This episode of Bulwark Takes sees host Tim Miller delivering a sharp, scathing commentary on the recent Trump-hosted state dinner with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS) and America's top billionaires and corporate leaders. Tim dissects the social and political dynamics of the event, highlights the moral bankruptcy among elites cozying up to a notorious autocrat, and reflects on the implications of deepening Western-Saudi tech partnerships.
Tim reacts with disgust to images from the Trump-MBS dinner, describing physical revulsion:
"If you're like me and you saw the images from the Trump state dinner with MBS and the American oligarchy, you were hunched over the toilet dry heaving this morning." (00:03)
He underscores the grotesque spectacle of billionaires seeking proximity to a regime responsible for the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi.
Tim runs down the list of tech and financial elites in attendance:
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"Why do these people get invited to way better parties than I do? Why do they want to go to this?" (02:52)
He repeatedly points out the contradiction of powerful American women executives aligning with a regime that represses women's rights.
"We're kind of out of an era where virtue signaling was important in corporate America and now we're to an era where vice signaling is important." (06:03)
"I would have laughed in their face, like, no, I'm not going to go to a fucking state dinner with MBS." (01:48)
"Do we want to intermingle it that closely with the Saudis? ... I think this is just a gold rush. And everybody has decided to put any sort of moral compunction or practical concerns to the side." (09:38)
"We want them to be the third largest, you know, power player when it comes to artificial super intelligence. Couldn't possibly imagine how that could go wrong." (08:15)
"This morally vacuous, illiberal, Great Gatsby Botox selfie culture and the new Grand Trump Ballroom, where the worst dictators in the world buddy up with the Silicon Valley oligarchs and the AI elite and the crypto bros... I think the country is going to turn sour on that very fast." (11:01)
"Running against these noxious, horrible people is something that I would support and that I think would have a lot of support within the country." (10:54)
On the grotesqueness of the event:
"These people make me sick." (11:40)
With acerbic sarcasm:
"If a non-Trump White House wanted to invite me to a state dinner with a leader from a liberal democracy... sure, I'd go, yeah." (02:29)
On MBS's rumored private life:
"I'm not reporting this ... but he might be a hermaphrodite and also a murderer. It was quite a dinner." (12:07)
A fiery solo rant, this episode is a moral indictment of American corporate and political elites for their willingness to cozy up to Saudi autocracy in pursuit of wealth, status, and business deals, even at the expense of American values and security. Tim Miller’s take is a mixture of incredulity, disgust, and biting satire—balancing detailed reporting on the individuals and deals involved with a passionate call for accountability from within the political and business classes.