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Host/Moderator
Hey everybody. We are back live with the latest in the second federal agent shooting killing of a citizen in Minnesota. We have a bunch of additional information since we dropped off last and Andrew Egger has joined us, author of the Morning Shots newsletter. Just I want to mention a few things and we'll get everybody's reaction and then we're going to give you guys also some highlights from the Greg Bevino press conference where he just offered some pretty insane lies about the CBP and ICE murder in Minneapolis. First, we have learned that the man that was killed, the victim is Alex Preddy. He's a nurse. So we have an identity, an ID of the victim. Donald Trump has posted totally insane social media posts talking about how the victim's gun was loaded and ready to go. Yes. What is that about? As if that's not allowed anymore in this country. You're not allowed to have a gun, apparently, according to the president. But most shockingly, we do have a new angle of this killing. And I just earlier I gave everybody a trigger warning when you talked about the first video, but that was from a distance. Like this is much, much more graphic. And so I just do want to warn you, it goes on for a little bit and so make a choice about whether you want to watch this or not. But this is a video from the opposite vantage point where we can see a lot more about what happened before these agents killed Alex Preddy. So let's watch that then we'll get Sarah and Andrew's reaction on the other side.
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Sarah
Okay, so that's him right there. Go. He's basically directing traffic right now. He's filming. What the is wrong with you? The agent pushes that woman spare, sprays him in the face. Continues to spray him in the face. People, the is wrong with you? Honestly?
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Interjecting Commentator
Jesus.
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Sarah
What the fuck did you just do? What the fuck did you just do? What the fuck?
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Host/Moderator
Okay, that's enough. I want to shout out Dropsite news that acquired that video. Ryan Grimm was on this channel a couple weeks ago. Andrew, let's get your initial thoughts. Okay.
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Andrew Egger
I think it's important just to dwell again on what DHS first said about this shooting. Before this second angle came out. Their, their first statement on this was an individual had approached U.S. border Patrol officers with a semi automatic handgun. They tweeted out a picture of that. The officers attempted to disarm the suspect, but the armed suspect violently resisted. More details on the armed struggle are forthcoming. Fearing for his life and the lives and safety of fellow officers, an agent fired defensive shots. The suspect also had two magazines and no id. This looks like a situation where an individual wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement. That was an implausible statement just from the first angle. It is completely obliterated by what we just watched. He, the. It's just all right there on camera. The guy who is eventually shot is not involved with the initial altercation of that gets the DHS officers there, the border patrol agents there hot and bothered. They are mad at a couple of women who then kind of fall out of the shot. He, one agent pursues one woman across the street, shoves her down. She falls over in the ice. The man who now becomes the victim, this, this, this nurse, he, he then kind of puts his body in between the agent and the woman that the agent just pushed down. His arms are straight up in the air. He, he is not, you know, engaging in an altercation with him in any way. But I mean, it really does look like his last like deliberate act alive on the earth is to try to kind of shield this woman who has just been shoved down by this border patrol agent. They then, the guy then goes for his pepper spray, pepper sprays the woman, pepper sprays him. At this point, this is before he's even on the ground. He's incapacitated, she's incapacitated. They are all, they've been pepper sprayed. Then they all pile onto him and start to arrest him. He's kind of like, you know, it seems like Maybe he's resisting to a certain extent. Maybe he's just not sure what's going on. He just got a face full of pepper spray. At some point, they then discover that he has a gun. So the. Again, DHS claimed that he kind of approached these agents with a gun. Complete lie, complete bullshit, Utterly invented. He. He's on the ground, already been pepper sprayed, and they're on top of him. They discover he's got a gun. In this video, you can see even more clearly the moment at which one agent takes his gun out of his holster. It's never. He never reaches for it himself. An agent takes it away and then another agent shoots him, however many times he does. And that's. That's the whole thing. I mean, it's just like. Like that's. What do you.
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Host/Moderator
Sarah, I want to. Before I go to you, Sarah, I want to. I want to just play the key part again without the. Without the. The beginning and the traumatizing aftermath. So I just want to start here at the moment where the woman gets pushed that he then tries to get in between. I want to watch that one more time and then we'll get your take.
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Reporter/Interviewer
People.
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Andrew Egger
The is wrong with you, Honestly.
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Host/Moderator
I mean, you can. Anyway, as Andrew said, the last thing he does is try to help that woman that gets pushed down. And then you can see his hands on the ground, like he's not grabbing for a weapon. But Sarah, what's your take?
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Sarah
So Jason Miller and Pavino in the press conference that I just watched and Donald Trump, they are all lying about what just happened. It is the same thing with Renee.
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Host/Moderator
Good.
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Sarah
Only I got to say, this seems infinitely clearer out of the gate and. And it's because. Watch. We don't need to watch it again, but we just watched it twice. That border patrol agent pushes that woman with such force that she goes down. And what he's doing is trying to help her. He's trying to, like, pick her up. And then they pepper spray him once and then they pepper spray him again at such close range that what is clearly happening is he's blinded. And now as six officers jump on him, he can't see anything. He doesn't know what's happening. Right. So imagine the panic. Imagine the way that your body's reacting to being blinded and then shoved to the ground. And like. And then it's very unclear because now you're in the scrum and as somebody's going to slow it down and we're going to be able to see why somebody pops off and Shoots him. But I know from a different angle that somebody was also either pistol whipping him or hitting him with something in the head. So, like, this guy's not a threat. But here's the thing, Jason.
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Andrew Egger
The same guy, by the way. Sorry, real quick. It's the same guy who provoked the whole altercation is the guy who's sitting there pistol whipping him in the head. You can tell it's the same ICE or the same DHS agent there.
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Sarah
So, so, so, so just. Just listen to this. This Stephen Miller thing. He says a domestic terrorist tried to assassinate federal law enforcement. And this is your response? That's what he said. A domestic terrorist tried to assassinate federal law enforcement. That is not what happened. It's not even close to what happened.
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Host/Moderator
No, I mean, again, the person that got killed was videoing and then trying to protect a woman that got pushed to the ground. Like, that's what. That's. That's what happened. So he did not confront them, frankly. Actually, you know, kind of. You look at the still. I'm like, looking at these still screenshots of it. He gets, like, drugged back into the scrum, right?
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Sarah
Yes.
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Host/Moderator
So, you know, when you talk her. Yeah. He's trying to help her, and then he gets drug into the scrum where he ends up dying. So, like, it's. It's not as if he's trying to help her. And then they come after him and then he, like, goes back at them. Right. Like, they pepper spray him in the face. He goes down and then they drag him over.
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Andrew Egger
And then you could not imagine. You. You literally could not sit down and, like, draw up a script for a less justifiable police shooting. And the fact that they are willing to jump straight to the same playbook. Straight to the same. This was a domestic terrorist trying to assassinate cops. I mean, it's. It's every. It's every. I mean, that's everything, right? I mean, there. There is no. It happened all right there on video that everybody can see. There is no ICE killing that they would not reach for this justification for. If they would reach for it for this one. I mean, it's just that ICE could kill anybody, and this is what they would say.
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Host/Moderator
Yeah. I mean, this guy has his gun out the. Has his gun out, like, way early. I get. So again, it's. Again, I'm just. If you're just trying to imagine, like, you know, other possible justifications, like he gets in the scrum and he goes to grab for his weapon and. And the guy freaks out. No, like, the guy has his weapon while out already while they're dragging him. If you look at the. At the, you know, slow motion stills of this video and then we showed in the first live stream the fact that he then keeps shooting him when he's dead on the ground after everybody has dispersed. That's what you see from the other angle, right? That the guy is still unloading his clip after he's already on the ground. I mean, it is just like there is nothing even in the ballpark of defensible and understandable to this. And for the federal government to come out and immediately lie about this and immediately try to make this person into a terrorist like they are. They want more. Like this is like it is an escalation response. Like the local officials to a level that I think maybe was even maybe overdone, focused on peace. You know, make like, do not go to the scene. Do not escalate. We want peaceful protests. We're not, you know, we want this to end. And. And the federal government's doing totally the opposite to that point. We should. Let's watch. We have the videos I mentioned earlier of Greg Bevino and his. Well, whatever, fuck it.
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Sarah
Just.
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Host/Moderator
Let's just watch it.
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Greg Bevino
During this operation, an individual approached U.S. border Patrol agents with a 9 millimeter semiautomatic handgun. The agents attempted to disarm the individual, but he violently resisted, fearing for his life and the lives and safety of fellow officers. A Border Patrol agent fired defensive shots. Medics on the scene immediately delivered medical aid to the subject, but the subject was pronounced dead at the scene. The suspect also had two loaded magazines and no accessible id. This looks like a situation where an individual wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement.
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Host/Moderator
Maximum damage and massacre law enforcement. He wanted to massacre law enforcement. Well then why did his. Why was he videotaping with, with his right hand, with his shooting hand. He's trying to massacre law enforcement. Like what the fuck.
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Sarah
It is, it is. It is. It is an atrocious, cynical, abominable lie that we can all see as untrue. And you can also understand after what happened with Renee Goode, people are going to these protests likely ready to defend themselves. Although this guy was not. He wasn't. He never got a chance to defend himself. They jumped him. And so like the idea, the way that Bevino and Trump are acting. Like the fact that the guy had a gun, especially for all these second amendment lovers out there, that him possessing the gun. And that was carefully worded. If you listen to Bevino, it's carefully worded. He's not brandishing a gun, but he had a gun. Right, but we can all see this is, this is what is so outrageous about them. We can all see that he's lying. We can all see that there's not a gun in that guy's hand. If it's in his pocket and he never got it and he was already down on the ground and already pepper sprayed in the face, what's your self defense?
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Host/Moderator
Yeah, no, there's none. I, it's just, it's an absurd lie and it's enraging. And I'm having trouble containing my rage just, just thinking about it right now. And it goes to. We have another clip. But Andrew, I want to get. Me and JBL talked about this earlier, but I want to get your take on this as well. Like the whole premise that this is a justified execution of the state is that just having a weapon with, with magazine, with multiple magazines is pretextual justification for murder. Now on the street, like these people, that for our whole lives in kind of the movement conservatism talking about how important it is that we have our second amendment rights so that if the government infringes upon us, we can protect ourselves from a tyrannical government. Now the tyrannical government is saying that just having a weapon legally, we learned earlier this is a permanent weapon. Having a permanent weapon is enough to justify execution.
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Andrew Egger
Yeah, I'M sure I don't have anything to say about this that JBL didn't already say earlier, but I think all the people who said it's so important that we have these weapons, they meant it. But they meant we, they meant us. They meant, you know, the, the. Our kind of people, which now is basically maga. It's okay for MAGA to, you know, open, carry into the Capitol and, you know, ransack it. And if anybody shoots somebody who's done this, you know, that's completely unjustified. Murder of Ashley Babbitt or whatever. But if any of them, if any of them ever have a gun at any point in time, even if it's just sort of, if it's totally legal and they're not committing any crimes and they're just, you know, if they happen to have a gun on their body, that is a pretext for them to be shot. I do think it's important to dwell on, like, the narrative from DHS here and, like, I almost feel like it justifies it more than it deserves to, like, go chapter and verse through all the specific ways in which it's lying. But, but the idea that, like, the gun was part of the altercation from the beginning at all. Like, nobody knew he had a gun until about five seconds before he died. It's, it's. It's in a holster at his waist. It's in a holster at his waist. And, and it's not until. Until he is on the ground, you know, like, on all fours, which the, like the act of them dragging him to the ground there, like, hikes up his clothes. Then all the agents can see he has this holster. One of them grabs it and another one kills him. Like, that's. That's, that's all that, that's all that happened here. Can we, can we.
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Host/Moderator
I just want to draw on this one more second. I hate to do these stupid counterfactuals, but, like, I'm just looking at this Trump truth post again, and, like, the fact that he just leaves this picture up of the gun, like, there, and it's just like the gunman's guns loaded. What's that all about? And, like, just imagine the NRA backlash if this had been a Barack Obama, right? Like, blaming it on the victim having a gun, you know, just. Just utter, like, who knows what kind of like violent pandemonium and a run on gun stores and bullets being purchased and all this stuff they're going to use. I think about all this shit we had to go through at every School shooting. This was a false flag because they want to take our guns. They're going to blame the guns on everything. And here we have this president blaming a guy for being a lawful carrier of a firearm.
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Sarah
Hey, Tim Wall for his murder.
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Host/Moderator
Okay, let's go to Tim Wallace.
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Sarah
Can we get more volume on that?
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Reporter/Interviewer
Hennepin county sheriff with state colonel and general.
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Sarah
Can you guys hear it?
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Reporter/Interviewer
Minnesota National Guard. Well, as I said last week, this federal occupation of Minnesota long ago stopped being a matter of immigration enforcement.
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Host/Moderator
Well, we're working on the volume here. We're going to get to Tim Walls in a second. But.
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Andrew Egger
Can I dwell for just one more second on Trump's tweet? Because I feel like we haven't even done this justice. He says, this is the gunman's gun loaded. What's that all about? And then he says, where are the local police? Why weren't they allowed to protect ICE officers? The mayor and the governor called them off. Question mark. So he immediately pivots, blaming Walls and Chicken Fry for what happened. And then two sentences later, why does ilhan Omar have $34 million in her account? And where are the tens of billions of dollars that have been stolen from the once great state of Minnesota? We're there because of massive monetary fraud. We want the money back. We want it back now. Much of what you're witnessing is a cover up for this theft and fraud. The mayor and the governor are inciting insurrection with their pompous, dangerous and arrogant rhetoric. I mean, he could, he's not even pretending to care even like a tiny little ounce about this thing that happened today. Trump sees these shootings as these, like, little speed bumps. Like, like, can we please? He's, he's begged people. He's like, why is everyone paying so much attention to the protests when they should be paying attention to the fraud? Like, he's mad that these things make news. I don't know, like, it, like, it's a complete abdication of, like, the President of the United States, not only blaming everybody, but the people who actually pulled the trigger, but also just like this intense posture of what a drag it is that we have to focus on this at all. Like, can't, like, how come you people are. Care so much that, that my masked agents are gunning you down in the streets. Wouldn't you rather, like, wouldn't you rather be mad about Somali fraud? You know, like, I mean, it's just his complete, not only his unwillingness, but his like, incapacity to like, have a basic human reaction to Any of this is, like, weirder to me almost than like the pure propaganda stuff that comes out of Miller and Pavino. I don't know.
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Host/Moderator
It seems like the audio, she's actually in the. In the room with walls. So we're going to try to. To work on that. But, Sarah, do you have anything that everyone watch? One other Bavino clip that we have pulled up.
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Sarah
Let's do the Bavino triple. Although I'm pretty interested in walls. I mean, I can hear it if I turn it up really loud on my headphones. So let's watch Bavino and then maybe we can come back and try to get walls again. Did he have an additional gun or was the gun moved from the seat?
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Host/Moderator
This is a question from a journalist about whether the person had pulled the weapon.
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Greg Bevino
Again, this situation's evolving. This is under investigation. Those facts will come to light. But let's take a look at the gun. You can see the gun here on the screen there.
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General Manke
That.
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Greg Bevino
That individual.
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Host/Moderator
Possessed. Possessed. Possessed. That's the problem. Like, he hasn't. Like he seems even too ashamed to try to, to try to act like this. The. He doesn't use the word brandish, you know, or pointed. Possessed.
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Andrew Egger
He just reached for. I mean.
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Reporter/Interviewer
Yeah.
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Andrew Egger
At no point did he.
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Sarah
Yeah, and. And I, I'll tell you, I watched that whole press conference with Bavino. He does, he's not ashamed. What he does is he's like, everybody, look, we've got a picture there. Like, their defense is going to rest on the fact that the guy had a gun. Not brandished, not used, not anything, but just that on his person, he was carrying a gun, which. You know what? I'm sorry, but this is actually a pretty perfect instance of the only way to stop bad guys with guns, actually.
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Andrew Egger
Hi.
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Reporter/Interviewer
I don't know.
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Sarah
I just. I'll.
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Host/Moderator
I got this. While you calm down, here's something to fire you up even more. We have a. A U.S. attorney for the Central District of California. He looks like he's about 12, so I don't know. They're not. They're not hiring their best. But he, he posted this. Uh, if you approach law enforcement with a gun, there's a high likelihood they'll be legally justified in shooting you. Don't do it. Spokesman that's a Republican state's attorney, excuse me, federal attorney saying that. Now their. Their rule is if you possess a weapon on your person legally and you, I guess, walk towards law enforcement, they can kill you now.
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Andrew Egger
Or if law enforcement walks toward you, brutalizes a woman in your Area pepper sprays you and just grabs you because you're there. That is also grounds.
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Host/Moderator
Truly insane. Do we have anything from, from Walls at this point? Look, as well, we wait for Walls. Why don't we talk about this? Like, what are you wanting to hear from him at this point, either of you?
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Sarah
I would like him to call for other Democrats to join him and, and, and, and Republicans, anyone of good faith, help us get these people out of our city. They are creating chaos. They shouldn't be here and they're, and they're hurting people.
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Host/Moderator
Andrew, do we need more than that?
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Andrew Egger
No. That's good. I mean, he, I do think that these leaders have no choice but to continue to call in no uncertain terms for calm and peace in the streets. Donald Trump wants this to turn into KENOSHA Again, like 2020 George Floyd, you know, riots. And, and he wants people to see like the, the alternative to his masked authoritarian secret police as like chaos and burning buildings and stuff. And, and it hasn't been, and hopefully it won't be. But, but I don't know. It's all.
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Host/Moderator
So I think we have audio now of Walls. The question is going to be about whether he does anything with the National Guard. He's not going to do anything in this press conference, but I think that'll be the question to chew over on the other side. Let's listen to Tim Walls.
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Interjecting Commentator
And those resources include the Minnesota State Patrol, the Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, and the Minnesota National Guard. With that, we'll stand for questions.
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Andrew Egger
That you will be answered differently. Have you had any conversations with the.
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Host/Moderator
President, with the federal government, and is.
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Andrew Egger
There any indication that they are going.
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Host/Moderator
To pull out or back down?
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Reporter/Interviewer
Well, I spoke twice this morning shortly after I received the call of this shooting. I spoke with the president's chief of staff, and first request was to get her people out of there, to get these federal agents out of there. They were going to cause more chaos. And second call is with no uncertain terms that we will investigate this. We will not be stonewalled. What we've already seen, and you saw it this morning before any investigation is done, you have the most powerful people in the federal government spinning stories and putting up pictures and unrelated people who we don't know anything about and a picture of a firearm to try and spin a narrative. And I just, I ask Americans this will end when enough Americans say this will end. Do I have any confidence Donald Trump will do the right thing? No, I don't have a lot of confidence Donald Trump will do the right thing. I do have a lot of confidence that the majority of the American people will do the right thing. And I think there cannot be very many people across this country looking right now after all the reporting that's been done, after everything that's been said under the pretense that they are here about immigration reform. And quit referring to these people as law enforcement. They are not law enforcement. We have law enforcement who do an incredible job. And to listen to Greg Bevino denigrate the work of our people who are out there cleaning up their mess, no, I don't have a lot of confidence that he himself will do it. But here's what I do have confidence in. There's a whole lot of Republicans, for whatever reason, cannot find their spine. But they might find the ability to know that they're not going to win another election as long as they live unless they stand up for what's right and stand up for the rule of law and stand up for human decency. And that's the moment.
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Andrew Egger
If that is not the case, what are the people supposed to do who are in the middle right now?
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Host/Moderator
Because yes.
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Reporter/Interviewer
Yeah, no, it's a good question. And then, look, I, I speaking to the people of Minnesota right now, I, I hear that scream from you and I, I'll continue to plead and ask you for peace. And I know, I know the answer is you ask us for peace and we give it and we get shot in the face on the streets coming out of a donut shop. We cannot give them what they want. I don't know how to say this in so many terms to watch the madness that we've witnessed over this last week coming out of the White House and what it's doing here. My confidence is, and I say it to Minnesotans, as I've said, exercise your first amendment rights, speak out, bear witness and document legally. But I understand the risk in that and I understand the courage that it takes to have people out there doing this. Thank God, thank God we have video because according to dhs, these seven heroic guys took an onslaught of a battalion against them or something. It's nonsense, people. It is nonsense and it's lies. So my confidence is this, Minnesotans, you know who you are and you demonstrate it every single day. And we damn sure know who these people are. The American public knows and this needs to be the event that says enough, go ahead. I'm up front.
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Sarah
Investigation, you know, with the Renee, good shooting. BCA said that they were blocked from accessing evidence. Has there been any suggestion that BCA is not allowed to do this investigation. Do you have officers on the ground doing the investigation right now?
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Interjecting Commentator
The question was related to whether or not the BCA is on the ground currently with the investigation and a reference to previous investigations that the BCA have attempted to be a part of. What I'll tell you right now is that we no longer have BCA agents or public safety, State Patrol or Minneapolis on the ground at that crime scene. What I will tell you, and not to get further into the investigation, but DHS pulled out of the scene, leaving that to Minnesota State Patrol, Minneapolis. We did not have enough resources to be able to hold that ground safely. And we had to leave that scene because of the number of people that were available and the safety of those in the public and the safety of our teams. We were able to get there, but at that time we were not able to hold that scene to do a crime scene investigation. I can't talk anymore about those details.
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Sarah
If not, neither DHS nor state officials.
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Interjecting Commentator
We'Ll have more on that. But the BCA is engaged and involved and we are working at the request of the Minneapolis Police Department on this on the scene and in this investigation. So we are there. We're available. We want to make sure that we continue to work on this and engage with our federal law enforcement. But at this point, we don't have anything more to share about the crime scene. Again, we were not able to hold it. We want to make sure and keep people safe. But federal law enforcement left the scene and left us there.
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Reporter/Interviewer
Yeah.
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Interjecting Commentator
Yes.
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Reporter/Interviewer
The answer is yes. We have, as we said last week, and we staged those troops. I'll have General Manke talk about where they're at and again, use this as an opportunity. Opportunity to distress the Minnesotans. The frustration you have. And as you saw this, we. They killed a man, created chaos, pushed down protesters, threw gas indiscriminately and then left the scene. And then we're left to clean up. I understand the anger. I understand trying to parse who were the law enforcement on the scene when you got there after a man was killed is difficult for folks who are out there. But I can't stress enough our goal, and I'll have General Minkie talk about what. What the role of these Guard troops are in conjunction with incredible work from the Hennepin County Sheriff's Office, from Mutual Aid across, and of course the State Patrol of trying to get to the point where what we're saying is we can handle this and Minnesotans can express their First Amendment rights and have our folks on the streets and get these people out of here. And so, John, if you want to talk a little bit. But the answer is, yes, there's activated. He can talk to you about numbers.
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Sarah
Yeah.
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General Manke
So the question is, what's the National Guard doing right now? So we have, you know, we have been on state active duty for over a week, so we've had soldiers prepared in the metro area to respond in a much rapid manner than if they were not mobilized. So we have a request from the Hennepin County Sheriff to support them, and that is to help them free up additional resources for other work that they need to do. And we have started coordinating with them this morning on that. And that first area of support will be assisting them with their requirement to provide security to the Whipple Building. So we'll be helping them there. And then we are in parallel planning with other organizations within the state of Minnesota to include the State Patrol, the Minnesota dnr, and other local agencies to render assistance if requested. I would say that the number that we have is adequate for the requests that we have right now. And I will also tell you that we are bringing more resources that will be able to respond in a timely manner that are not fully mobilized yet, but we are mobilizing more soldiers as we talk at this time. I'd like not to get into specific numbers for an operational security standpoint, but right now we have all the resources to meet the requests that we have.
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Reporter/Interviewer
I would note on this one, too, that we'll be billing the federal government for the cost of the National Guard because they are incurring the costs that are falling on us by their reckless actions. Yes, sir.
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Host/Moderator
Hey, guys, I just want to talk about that National Guard answer for a second. And then when we get up, a different. A different feed for people. But, I mean, just briefly, I think that was the big question about this press conference that they just answered right there. They said the National Guard is activated. One of the things that they're going to do is use. Use it to protect the Whipple building. And so to me, it seems like kind of an intermediary step where it's like we're activating it. It was more talking about how they're going to work with local law enforcement than protect from federal law enforcement. When that, I think, is the big showdown question that comes. Do you guys have anything on that before we go back to the press conference?
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Andrew Egger
I mean, it's a little of both, right? I mean, like the. The subtext of protect the Whipple Building, which is my understanding is that's the. That is the ICE staging ground in the area. Right. So, I mean, the idea is like, get those guys out there, have them be doing the perimeter stuff, not have ICE and DHS themselves be the ones who are out there in the street clashing with protesters and things like that. I mean, that seems like it could be useful for that.
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Host/Moderator
All right.
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Host/Moderator
Back to wall so we'll get a little more.
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Reporter/Interviewer
The vice president that these folks can do whatever they want. They can have full immunity. And what I'm telling you is they will not. There will be justice to Minnesotans. Continue to gather the information. So I won't say where it is because I think it's irresponsible to make that judgment. But what I see with my eyes and what you're going to see with your eyes makes that pretty hard to believe. And I would imagine as a federal officer, they would have come out and sounded like these professionals sound and say, we need to gather the information. We need to gather all the facts, we need to put them forward, and then we can make some informed decision based on the fact they've written the narrative already and the audacity to critique the police chief of Minneapolis after what work that those heroic officers are trying to do and to be critiqued by this guy. I mean, I don't know. I've said it a lot. But America, as you're listening, enough is enough. Enough is enough of this. End this, end this. And we see them moving to Maine. If you're in Boston, you're in Chicago, you're in Philly, you're in Miami, it doesn't matter. We can't live like this. Our children are in trauma. A five year old. You saw the picture, the bunny hat and the spider man. Is there not like some narrative to throw around, to parade around in some coat you had made and act like you're a tough guy or whatever? These are people's lives and we have rule of law. So I'll let the investigation play itself out. We will do our best to find it. But I don't know, you kill a man and then you just leave your law enforcement, just leave. Is there a single case in American history where you just like walk away and say, I guess that just happened and we're not going to clean up our mess? I'm proud of Minnesotans, I'm proud of law enforcement here and our partners and we'll get to the bottom of it. I think we have time for another one.
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Sarah
Brittany Irma with KSTV Channel 5. ICE commander just said in a press conference within the hour that they're calling on state and local law enforcement to, quote, help coordinate to get violent criminals off the street. What's your response to that request?
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Reporter/Interviewer
I. I'm better off to let these guys, the professionals. I have my thoughts.
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Interjecting Commentator
So the question was, what are we doing to assist federal law enforcement on getting violent criminals off the street? If I understand the question, State and local law enforcement are always ready and willing and able to arrest violent offenders. We do not stand down from that. No matter where we get that information from, if there are violent offenders or violent criminals or violent crimes, we will investigate and we'll bring those to justice. If the federal government would like to work with us, to continue to work with us as they have in the past to locate those violent offenders, we are always open to those discussions and always willing to assist. We do not ignore that. We are ready and able and we do do that. All of you as part of the media hear us arresting violent offenders all the time. We have not stood down. That is our mission. The federal government is not alone in arresting violent offenders. State and local law enforcement does that every day at great risk to their life, at great risk to the community. We do it because we want to save Minnesota. And the federal government is not the only one to do that.
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Andrew Egger
Thank you.
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Host/Moderator
Okay, Sarah was. I have some things. What is your initial reaction to Waltz there?
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Sarah
He seems Appropriately outraged. He is demanding that Donald Trump get people out. He's making it clear that they. I actually, the thing I like best was what that guy just said right there. Like the idea the people who are on these streets are not law enforcement. Right? What, what Walt is saying and what that other guy is saying. Like, no, we have law enforcement. We catch dangerous criminals. That is what we do. That's our jobs. We put our lives in the line every day. That is not what's happening right now. And it isn't what's happening right now. It is not what they're doing. This is like, this is the, the structure of the administration's lie. And by the way, I was just going through Stephen Miller's feed. This guy keeps calling this guy a wannabe assassin. Like they are using the most heated false rhetoric like Bovino saying he was going to do maximum damage, he was there to do maximum damage. They have no evidence of that. This person wasn't brandishing a gun. I just. The extent to which they are lying and which the posts that DHS are putting out are just filled with lies that are instantly repudiated by the video that you watch. Like, you don't. There's, I understand they need an investigation. Responsible people should wait for an investigation. But there is, we have six angles now of this shooting and we can unequivocally say he did not brandish a weapon at any point. They weren't trying to disarm him. They weren't in fear for their lives. They weren't doing self defense.
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Andrew Egger
And that was the other part of the remarks that was so remarkable there just a minute ago is like, yeah, in some sense it would be wise to wait for an investigation. It would be nice to live in a world where we could wait for an investigation and have confidence that the more people investigate, the more accurate the story is going to get. But we have so much evidence now that that is not the world that we live in right now when it comes to these operations in Minnesota. The role of the federal government in moments is to circle the wagons and protect the, the anonymous masked killer. It's what we saw with Renee Good, where, where, you know, all investigations into her killing were squashed. And in fact the, the honchos wanted to have new investigations launched into her and her and her family. And it's, it's what we're already seeing here. I mean the, the, that was Walls and, and the, the other guy who they had up, they were both talking about that, that federal enforcement all left the scene and they, they left it, you know, completely in the care of local police who were not able to secure then the scene. And, and, and like the idea that even if anybody want. Even if the federal government wanted to do a fair and impartial investigation, which they obviously do not, they have already tainted it in. In 15 different ways. And, and it's just. I mean, it's. You can't be angry enough about this stuff. It's just. It's really astonishing.
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Host/Moderator
I feel like I'm gonna have a heart attack right now. I'm so angry. Sort of to end this live stream soon. But I do just want to. I. It doesn't appear like he take. He goes for his gun at any point. I guess in the lead up, we know he doesn't now. We've seen enough angles. The scrum is still, like I'm saying, I don't know.
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Andrew Egger
I, I feel pretty confident that he did not go for his gun in that scrum.
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Host/Moderator
Pretty. It's pretty confident. It's fine. I'm fine with pretty confident. I just, I'm like, it's still. The scrum is still scrum there. Here's one video though. Here's a slow motion thing. I want to pull up here. Something I didn't catch the first time. Maybe you guys did. And that's the first shot. Let's watch this slow motion. This first shot here. You can see in this slow motion video. So he's still kneeling, right? Like they're pulling him over, like they have him. And that it's the guy from behind that shoots him. You know what, While he's still in the kneeling phase before he's laying on the ground and they shoot him 10 more times. But I. To me, that also just speaks to this, like, I. Totally insane that the person behind him shoots him execution style while he's. While he's kneeling. While these.
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Andrew Egger
The guy behind him walking away has his gun at that moment too.
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Sarah
I mean, it's just because I think.
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Host/Moderator
I'm sorry, just really quick. That's an important point. The other agent has already taken his gun.
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Andrew Egger
You can see in the other video, he's been disarmed. The other agent is walking away with his gun. His back is already to the scene by the time this guy goes in and shoots him from behind.
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Sarah
Look, I know we want to be careful about jumping to conclusions. I want to remind myself to be careful about jumping to conclusions. But what seems to be clear from that is that they realized he had a gun and took it and they shot him. Because he had had the gun and they thought they could get away with it because he was armed or they.
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Host/Moderator
Panicked in there or they like the untrained wussy cowards. Right. Like, you know, again, like me and JBL went over this. It's sort of like, okay, well we'll see like whether this is an intentional escalation or these guys just have no fucking business being there.
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Andrew Egger
They're border patrol to do like they. Yeah, they're not trained to do any of this stuff. They're not supposed to be doing interior enforcement operations.
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Host/Moderator
Like there's no reason for them to even be there. Right. There's no rationale for them to even be there. They're there. They're masked. They're menacing people to this point. And they are the first two amendments for a reason. Some says the other thing I want to say there and like this man that got killed is literally exercising his first and second amendment rights. That's what he gets killed for. Like that they killed him for lawfully executing his first and second amendment rights. I guess the. An absolute outrage. Anyone who like pretends to care about our constitutional government should be fucking have their blood boiling like Sarah's is right now. As mentioned, we know, we know the victim, Alex Preddy, now he's an ICU nurse who worked for the Minnesota va. Actually we've learned the things I just want to throw out there. The dhar to help.
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Sarah
He went there to help. Like that's why he went. Right. The guy is a person who helps people.
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Host/Moderator
Yeah. And he was helping that woman that they pushed to the ground as the last thing he did was try to help that woman that he pushed that they pushed to the ground before they murdered him. A couple other things I sort of mentioned before we close down the stream. The according to Caroline reporter we've had on dhs, not FBI will be investigating today's shooting. And from federal government level, you know, the same people are out there. Obvious lies. Yeah. Mark Caputo, our former colleague, asked an interesting question on X. I just want to raise for everybody. What agency do we think has the video from Alex Brady's phone? The victim's phone. So we have that too. And like this goes to like how they all handled this. I will know. We will see. I don't want to speculate but like they fucking kill this guy. They and then run away. A lot of the ICE agents then run away. Like they don't secure the scene. They don't, you know, do the stuff you're supposed to do or There's a shooting to make sure that investigators can come in. Like, you see one of the guys from the other angle we showed in the last livestream, like, pull his mask up higher so, like, you know, people can't see his face. They run away. A couple of ICE cars leave, and then, you know, as we've mentioned, the police then come to try to see. And then ICE tries to get the regular. The normal police, the Minneapolis police away. And then to their credit, they refuse to let them. But, you know, who knows what the hell they could be doing with the various evidence based on that moment.
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Sarah
That's a great point, right? That, like, now they're grabbing his phone the same way that they have tried to use the picture of his gun to represent something that clearly didn't happen. Right.
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Host/Moderator
Oh, okay.
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Sarah
There's a car somewhere or there's a gun somewhere in a car seat. Great. That does not prove anything. That's not a. That's not a thing.
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Andrew Egger
But, but.
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Sarah
But, Tim, it is clear from that video after the. Some guy just walks up, shoots him, and everybody else backs up sort of in a. Like, oh, oh, no. Oh, like, oh, he's. And then they all just. And Walt said this. Then they all just walk away and leave the scene. Like. Like, we're not. And he said, you know, we're here to clean up this mess. They didn't stay with the body. They're not staying to. To talk to investigators. For all we know, they, like, went off to make sure that there was. That they put the gun in a car somewhere they could take a picture, and then they walked off with the guy's gun. When we cannot trust our own government, they're making that clear that we can't trust them.
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Host/Moderator
Abundantly clear. Andrew, do you have anything else before we shut this thing down?
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Andrew Egger
Oh, man, I'm done. It's just fucking insane.
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Host/Moderator
It's brutal. We closed the last one with the same thing. But I just. Well, I just want to say two things. One, shout out to the people that are out in the streets protesting Minneapolis right now, and I hope you continue to do so. And I know that you're doing it at risk to yourself at this point. And so it's important and we appreciate everybody that's out there.
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Andrew Egger
We would not know. We would not know what happened here if it weren't for there. Yeah.
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Host/Moderator
And Bill, our colleague Bill Kristol echoed this point that I kind of made at the end of the first live stream. I just want to say again, but Bill says this too obvious. A point to make, perhaps, but there was no unrest in Minneapolis before ICE and CBP showed up. ICE and CBP are the cause of the chaos and the killings. Get them out of there. Like that is what this comes down to for me. Obviously the video itself is galling and enraging and maddening, but they have no reason to be there and they should get them out. And our political leaders, or at least anyone, any who, who care about protecting the Constitution and protecting the American citizens are getting murdered should be doing everything possible to get them out of there. So I'll leave it there. Unless, Sarah, you have a final thought?
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Sarah
Call them out for lying. Do not let them lie to you. They are already telling lies. Like if even if something were to come out in an investigation where they could prove under hyper slow MO that the guy's hand was somehow moving toward. I, I don't know, like that everything that preceded what happened, none of it needed to happen. They pepper sprayed him multiple times in the face after violently pushing a woman out of the way who wasn't doing anything that anybody can tell they have murdered somebody. They are lying about it. And just. I want to reiterate this like, I know it sounds corny, but like our hearts are very much with the people that are standing out there. Thank God we have cameras because what do you think these people are doing when the cameras aren't on them? Like, there's something about the way that they behave when they know, like the brazenness with which they behave when they know we've got them dead to rights on camera. Lying means that whatever they're doing when the cameras aren't on is a lot worse than this.
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Host/Moderator
All right, we'll leave it there. Appreciate everybody. We ended the last livestream, I don't know, an hour ago we said we weren't going to be live again until tomorrow at noon. So I don't exactly know when we'll be next. We'll be here as news requires. Bill Kristol will be here for sure tomorrow at noon as he always is on Sundays live. And we'll be keeping you guys posted as we learn more. All right, appreciate everybody.