Bulwark Takes Podcast Summary
Episode: BREAKING: Sen. Ernst OUT as GOP Struggles With Trump’s Grip on Party
Host(s): The Bulwark team (main speakers identified as B and C, likely Tim Miller, Sarah Longwell, Bill Kristol, or others)
Date: August 29, 2025
Overview
In this episode, the Bulwark team breaks down the breaking political news that Iowa Republican Senator Joni Ernst is reportedly not seeking reelection, joining a growing list of GOP lawmakers stepping down. The discussion examines the implications for the GOP, the party's ongoing struggles with Donald Trump's influence, the dynamics of upcoming primaries, the prospects for Democrats in Iowa, and what this means for the broader political landscape leading into 2026.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Ernst’s Exit Signals GOP Turmoil
[00:30 – 01:12]
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Senator Joni Ernst’s decision not to seek reelection is described as a blow to the GOP, adding her to a list of withdrawing figures like Thom Tillis, Mitch McConnell, and Tommy Tuberville.
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Hosts debate whether her leaving offers hope for Democrats in an increasingly competitive Iowa.
B: "She is not going to be seeking reelection in 2026. This adds her to a fairly long list... Sarah, is this cause for hope?" [00:30]
2. The Changing Landscape in Iowa
[01:12 – 02:41]
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Democrats recently flipped a Trump +11 seat in a special election, breaking the Republican "stranglehold" on Iowa's legislature.
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Ernst’s withdrawal possibly stems from the fear of losing her seat in a political environment that increasingly favors Trump or motivates only Trump-aligned turnout, not boosting the rest of the ticket.
C: "If you're Ernst and you're running in an off year...Donald Trump turns people out for him and not for the rest of the party." [01:36]
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Several prominent Democrats are already in the race, indicating a competitive primary, including Zach Walls and Josh Turek.
3. Humiliation and the Hegseth Factor
[02:41 – 03:23]
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Ernst’s recent "humiliation," particularly being passed over for Pete Hegseth, has impacted her political calculus.
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Her controversial comment defending Medicaid cuts — “everybody dies” — is seen as damaging and perhaps pivotal in her decision.
B: “She did say everybody dies when defending cuts to Medicaid…that’s the kind of thing that either you don’t say if you’re serious about running again…” [02:55]
4. Retirements as “Market Signals” for GOP Health
[03:23 – 04:27]
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Retirements are described as "market signals," like animals fleeing ahead of a disaster: the politicians closest to the action sensing a coming collapse.
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Despite bad numbers for Republicans, the hosts note that general unpopularity of Democrats can mask the severity of the GOP’s weakening position.
B: “You see retirements like this whenever the people who are closest to it with the most skin in the game start feeling those seismic waves, right?” [03:24]
5. GOP Primary Dilemmas & Trumpification
[04:47 – 07:10]
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“Normie” Republicans are staying out of races, fearing both defending Trump and the risk of losing; high-quality candidates aren't entering primaries.
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Any GOP candidate for Ernst’s seat will now have to “tie themselves to Trump” even more; parallels are drawn to Steve King, infamous for bigoted comments, who is described as someone who could easily win a GOP primary in Iowa now.
B: "In order to win the nomination in a state like Iowa, you're going to basically have to be Steve King." [06:13]
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Discussion about Iowa’s political evolution; it’s red, but not impossibly so, and Democrats can win under the right circumstances.
6. Joni Ernst’s Psychological Calculus
[07:50 – 08:57]
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Hosts question why Ernst continued to compromise her principles. The consensus: she anticipated career advancement (e.g., the Hegseth job) that never materialized.
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Her attempts to balance the Trump and traditional GOP factions ultimately left her without a political base.
B: “If you were Joni Ernst and you were gonna leave anyway, why did you bother humiliating yourself over the last six years?” [07:50]
C: "I think she thought she was gonna get Hegseth's job." [08:31]
7. The “Net Negative” of Moderate GOP Holdouts
[08:57 – 10:04]
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Moderates like Ernst and Susan Collins are described as “worse than useless” because their lingering presence gives the GOP undeserved credibility as a ‘normal’ party—hosts argue for a “pure MAGA treatment” to force the party’s true nature into the open.
C: “There was a period of time where having people who were willing to stand up to Trump on the Republican side was deeply important. But...they became a net negative…” [09:19]
8. 2026: Could Democrats Win Both Houses?
[10:04 – 11:46]
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Entertains the possibility — once unimaginable — that Democrats could flip both chambers of Congress in 2026. This is linked directly to Trump’s effect on turnout, which is strong for himself but doesn’t translate to GOP down-ballot strength.
B: "What if Democrats captured both houses of Congress in 2026? ...I would have a very different feeling about the future prospects of America..." [10:04]
C: "More and more it looks like Senate is in play." [11:45]
9. Tone: Candid, Hopeful — and Unsparing
[11:46 – End]
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The hosts stress their commitment to honest analysis, both good and bad:
B: "...we just try to call it like we see it...when good things happen, we're here to tell you. Joni Ernst, get the F out of here. America's done with you." [11:46]
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On retirements as warning signs:
“You see retirements like this whenever the people who are closest to it with the most skin in the game start feeling those seismic waves, right? It’s like when...the birds all start flying and the animals start moving inland, going to high ground. You're like, huh, everything looks fine. Wonder what they're all freaked out about.” — B [03:24] -
On Steve King’s chances in a Trumpified GOP:
“In order to win the nomination in a state like Iowa, you're going to basically have to be Steve King...If Steve King wanted this nomination, don’t you think he would win it?” — B [06:13] -
On the character of the remaining moderates:
“When they [GOP moderates] basically stopped standing up to Trump or only did it when...it wouldn't actually matter, which is what Susan Collins does, they became a net negative...It gives the party some cover to be like, see, look at these normal Republicans who are still in there.” — C [09:19] -
On what a Democratic sweep would mean:
“What if Democrats captured both houses of Congress in 2026? ...I would have a very different feeling about the future prospects of America.” — B [10:04]
Important Timestamps
- 00:30: Introduction of breaking news: Joni Ernst not seeking reelection
- 01:36: Discussion on why Ernst and others are leaving
- 02:41: Implications for Democratic competition in Iowa
- 03:23: Retirements as indicators of underlying party weakness
- 06:13: Analysis of the extreme directions of Iowa GOP primaries
- 07:50: Psychological deep-dive: Ernst’s motivations and missed opportunities
- 09:19: The negative impact of “moderate” Republicans
- 10:04: Exploring the real possibility of a Democratic Senate and House
- 11:46: Episode wrap-up with a note on the Bulwark’s honest approach
Takeaway
This episode delivers both a sharp critique of the GOP’s ongoing struggles with Trump’s dominance and a concrete sense that party dynamics—especially in the Midwest—are shifting. The Bulwark team frames Ernst’s departure as a “market signal" of deep vulnerability within the Republican establishment; they see opportunity for Democrats, but warn that the party’s success hinges on dynamics still in flux. The tone is blunt and unsentimental: the era of the “moderate” Republican, they argue, is over, and the coming primaries will force all candidates into Trump’s mold—with unpredictable consequences.
